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Speaker 1: the Move the Sticks Podcast. This a place that Bucky

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Speaker 1: out of Carolina. And first, uh, let's give the proper

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Speaker 1: on the sixty guys that are going to the sixty

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Speaker 1: four guys that are going to play on on Sundays,

435
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Speaker 1: because those are the guys to typically kind of leave

436
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Speaker 1: their mark and lasting impression on the league. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: leads us right into our final topic of conversation here

438
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Speaker 1: on this episode, which are some of the players that

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Speaker 1: we've got in the NFL p A Collegiate Bowl UH

440
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Speaker 1: this week. American national teams here, they've already hit the

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Speaker 1: practice field twice UH on on each of the first

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Speaker 1: two days of this week. They're back out on the

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Speaker 1: field today and we'll get ready for the game on

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Speaker 1: Saturday again right here in NFL Network, January eighteenth, seven

445
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Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern time. So I was out here at practice

446
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and UM, I kind of started doing some

447
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Speaker 1: research leading up to it and was really kind of

448
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Speaker 1: intrigued by a few guys. One of them Chris Rowland,

449
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver at a Tennessee State in the Nashville area.

450
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Speaker 1: It's FCS school out of the Ohio Valley con Conference

451
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Speaker 1: and UH five ft six receiver five ft six, But

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you what, he lit that practice up on

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Speaker 1: two Tuesday. He was the star of the national team

454
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Speaker 1: practice on Tuesday. I think he's number eighties six on

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Speaker 1: the national team. And he is a kid who this

456
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Speaker 1: year was the Ohio Valley Conference UH offensive Player of

457
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Speaker 1: the Year Chris Okay, and he was he broke Jerry

458
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Speaker 1: Rice's HBCU single season receptions record this year, had a

459
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Speaker 1: hundred and four receptions at over fourteen hundred yards. Uh.

460
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Speaker 1: He is a dynamo in the slot. I mean he

461
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: was undefeated in one on ones and so much so

462
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Speaker 1: that he was begging Marvin Lewis to extend the period.

463
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Speaker 1: He's like, let me get in a couple of Marvin

464
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Speaker 1: didn't do it. His coach this week is Santana Moss.

465
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Speaker 1: Remember him as a for the Redskins in the gy

466
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Speaker 1: and and Santana was given him so much love all

467
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Speaker 1: day long. Maybe it's because he's one of the only

468
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Speaker 1: guys that he can look out of eye with h there.

469
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Speaker 1: They are very similar in size and stature, and I

470
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Speaker 1: mean he was like watching him in one on one.

471
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Speaker 1: Santana was standing back there. I was just listening and

472
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Speaker 1: he's like, Man, somebody is gonna love this dude in

473
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Speaker 1: this lot. So much birth, so much suddenness at the

474
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Speaker 1: top of his routes and off the line of scrimmage. Uh, nobody,

475
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Speaker 1: nobody could stop that dude yesterday. It's funny that you

476
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Speaker 1: talk about that, but I received because I was gonna

477
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Speaker 1: talk about Uhi six Kendall Hinton not awake how to

478
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Speaker 1: wait for his former quarterback. And when you think about

479
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Speaker 1: a quarterback and the guys making a transition head a

480
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Speaker 1: thousand yards this year, his ability to make plays um

481
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Speaker 1: and talking to him on Monday, he had talked about

482
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Speaker 1: just the transition and how he made the transition successfully

483
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Speaker 1: in one year, and we talked about route running and

484
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Speaker 1: so when you begin to think about the more you

485
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Speaker 1: can do, and as we've seen Julian Edelman and the

486
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Speaker 1: likes of guys that have had their quarterback background kind

487
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Speaker 1: of make their way Taysom he will being able to

488
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Speaker 1: be an impact player. There's so many other things that

489
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Speaker 1: a former quarterback can bring if he is just good

490
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Speaker 1: enough to show that he might be good enough to

491
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Speaker 1: be a third or fourth wire receiver. Yeah, when you

492
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Speaker 1: add in the extra stuff, the double passes and the

493
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Speaker 1: ability to do some things he could he could himself

494
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. That's uh, that's cool for sure.

495
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Speaker 1: There's some really talented and productive receivers in this game.

496
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Speaker 1: His his buddy Scotty Washington in this game as well.

497
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Speaker 1: Big big body six ft five ended up missing the

498
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Speaker 1: last five games of his college career due to injury.

499
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Speaker 1: But a guy that that could really flash for decision

500
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Speaker 1: makers and evaluators this week with his size and his

501
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Speaker 1: ability to go up and get fifty fifty balls. UM.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk also a little bit about a

503
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Speaker 1: couple of quarterbacks. Um, there really a couple of big

504
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Speaker 1: names in this In this game, Brian Lurkey from Michigan

505
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Speaker 1: State will end up goes down as the Michigan State

506
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Speaker 1: all time leader in career total yards, passing Connor Cook. Uh.

507
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Speaker 1: He's the only Michigan State quarterback to throw for seven

508
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Speaker 1: thousand and rush for a thousand. You might remember him

509
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Speaker 1: from seventeen more that that's when he had a breakout

510
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: season the Spartan still a Holiday Bowl win, Tin wins,

511
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Speaker 1: and then he really kind of got banged up and

512
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Speaker 1: you know, didn't didn't have as much production in eighteen

513
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Speaker 1: and nineteen, but ended up his last college game was

514
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Speaker 1: m v P of the Pinstripe Bowl. He really threw

515
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Speaker 1: the ball well and had a really nice connection with

516
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Speaker 1: his buddy. Darryl Stewart, who's also here at the game,

517
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Speaker 1: is wide receiver who was banged up this year as well,

518
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Speaker 1: but it's back healthy and was making some plays. But

519
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Speaker 1: the guy who really impressed me yesterday was Jacob Lewton,

520
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Speaker 1: quarterback from Oregon State. Another guy who was a sixth year,

521
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Speaker 1: was granted a six year of eligibility because of the

522
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Speaker 1: injuries he dealt with. Had a thoracic spine fracture in

523
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Speaker 1: a game against Washington State where he thought he might

524
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Speaker 1: never play again. UM, but he ends up coming back

525
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Speaker 1: and threw twenty touchdowns and just three interceptions. Last year

526
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Speaker 1: missed some time. UH was Organs even though the didn't

527
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Speaker 1: make a Bowl, was their best season in the last

528
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Speaker 1: five years. And he threw the ball really well on Tuesday.

529
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Speaker 1: But so it was funny that you you came up

530
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Speaker 1: from Oregon State, and when I look at his dimensions,

531
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Speaker 1: UH six six seven pounds, reminds me of going through

532
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Speaker 1: the place UH going through when Derrick Anderson was there,

533
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Speaker 1: and Derrick Anderson coming out of Oregon State was a

534
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Speaker 1: big time basketball player. He was a guy who was

535
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Speaker 1: UH an Oregon kid, and he threw the ball really well.

536
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Speaker 1: And I think UM for looting, especially working under Jonathan Smith,

537
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Speaker 1: who also is a quarterback, was a former quarterback for

538
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Speaker 1: the Beavers. Being able to have that connection and in

539
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Speaker 1: these games where typically it can get kind of out

540
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Speaker 1: of sorts, ball security is everything, and if he is

541
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Speaker 1: able to take care of the ball, show people that

542
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Speaker 1: he understands how to go through his progressions and maybe

543
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Speaker 1: sometimes get to the second or the third guy and

544
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: the route concept and just sustained drives. He certainly can

545
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Speaker 1: enhance his opportunities to being able to play in the league.

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Speaker 1: And Jimmy Lake new head coach at Washington, of course,

547
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Speaker 1: it's seen him plenty of times as the defensive coordinator

548
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Speaker 1: at Washington while Chris Peterson was the head coach. Kind

549
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Speaker 1: of had one of the quotes that really caught my

550
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Speaker 1: eye and uh, he he said about Luton, this is

551
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback that nobody's talking about. And to get

552
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 1: that kind of respect from an opposing defensive coordinator being

553
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Speaker 1: something especially because Jimmy Lake has been in the league.

554
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Speaker 1: He he worked with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, so he

555
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: certainly has seen it. And anyone who knows the Washington

556
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Speaker 1: Huskies understand the challenges that they put on the opposing

557
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Speaker 1: quarterback in terms of all their fronts and coverage the

558
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Speaker 1: pre snap disguises. So for him to kind of tip

559
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Speaker 1: the hat to Josh like that, that says a lot,

560
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Speaker 1: speaks volumes about what his potential could be at the

561
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Speaker 1: next level. So there is a there's a ton of

562
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Speaker 1: guys with return ability in this game. I think that's

563
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Speaker 1: a lot of that. That's something that that guys are

564
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Speaker 1: that evaluators are looking for. It's always a later rounds

565
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: get a bonus, you know when you when you make

566
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Speaker 1: a pick up a guy like you're trying to get it.

567
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: You're trying to get a plus one player, a guy

568
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Speaker 1: that can occupy to uh like take two roles shorked

569
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Speaker 1: by one roster spot and UH and talking to all

570
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Speaker 1: of these guys, we talked about the importance of special teams,

571
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Speaker 1: like the guys that come out of this game that

572
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Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority, and then we'll have to find ways

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Speaker 1: to uh earn a jersey on Sunday's meaning to be

574
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Speaker 1: on the active roster and special teams is the easiest way. Um. Look,

575
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: McCole Hardman didn't play in this game, but he played

576
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Speaker 1: at the East West and what you saw speed and

577
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: explosionists and all those other things like it gives you

578
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Speaker 1: a chance to do those you know who was here

579
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Speaker 1: as a returner last year, Deante Harris, New Orleans Saints. Yeah,

580
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: and so Pro Bowl returner, Pro Bowl returner, and so

581
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: being able to to find guys that can um have

582
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Speaker 1: what we call a blue quality, a blue trade to

583
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Speaker 1: be a special returner. It changes the game, and so

584
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Speaker 1: special teams matter, and the special teams coach will ultimately

585
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: be the best friend for some of these guys if

586
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: they as they go in as developmental prospects. The last

587
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Speaker 1: two guys that or the last two kind of guys

588
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: and themes that you kind of see this week at

589
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Speaker 1: the at a game like this the nflp A Collegiate Bowl. Um,

590
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: you know they're they're players here that were talented players

591
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: played at Power five schools but were overshadowed by superstar

592
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Speaker 1: our players like DeAndre Swift. Georgia terrific running back. Obviously

593
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Speaker 1: they've had you know, it's been running back you the

594
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, Chubb and Girly in that whole deal. Well,

595
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Speaker 1: you know he's here is the Georgia Bulldogs second leading rusher,

596
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: Brian Harran. Uh didn't ended up skipping the bowl game

597
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: the Sugar Bowl. Wanted to kind of get his body

598
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Speaker 1: right and get ready for the draft. And he's here,

599
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: so a chance to see him in more of a

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Speaker 1: leading role, which would be kind of interesting as well. Yeah,

601
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Speaker 1: and sometimes that that works in their favor. Because DeAndre

602
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: Swift commanded so much attention he was the number one

603
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: running back, they did make sure that they elevated and

604
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Speaker 1: featured him because he's we're talking about that there's the

605
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: first round pick. But for him to get an opportunity

606
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Speaker 1: to come here and have a chance to kind of

607
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: be seen in a different light, to get around different people,

608
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: to showcase different skills, to maybe be put in a

609
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: role that is different than the road he was in

610
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Speaker 1: in Georgia, it only gives him an opportunity to kind

611
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Speaker 1: of rise up the charts. So you might appreciate this.

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Speaker 1: The last guy that I'll talk about and we'll get

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Speaker 1: out of here for this episode. Uh, you're familiar with

614
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Speaker 1: north from line area for me with the North Greenville

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Speaker 1: University D two school North Greenville. It's in North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: and I think maybe it's in South Carolina. Gonna geography, right,

617
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Speaker 1: but both in both in both Okay, so we're good.

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Speaker 1: Um Chauncey Hainey defensive end. He's six foot four fifty

619
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Speaker 1: pounds uh, terrific length and he looks like the Greek

620
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Speaker 1: god of defensive ends. So he absolutely passes the eye test.

621
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Speaker 1: In every facet and then we're looking for traits in

622
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Speaker 1: a game like this, it's the guy who's blocked six

623
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Speaker 1: kicks in his career that gives you a chance. It

624
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Speaker 1: does give you a chance. And also, the one thing

625
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Speaker 1: that we know about pass rushers, pass rushers can't come

626
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Speaker 1: from any level. Um, going all the way back, I've

627
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Speaker 1: seen guys that have been able to just come from

628
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Speaker 1: small schools and continue to dominate. I mean, you think

629
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Speaker 1: about matt Yudhon, We're from uh going to the Baltimore Ravens.

630
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Speaker 1: I mean it just goes on and on and on,

631
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: these guys that have come from these non descript schools.

632
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: He could be the next one to make that big joke.

633
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: So I was listening to another podcast. Really also, if

634
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Speaker 1: we give you a recommendation, the NFL p a collegiable

635
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: staff actually does a weekly look and spotlights and players.

636
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Speaker 1: So I was listening um to one where the spotlighting

637
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Speaker 1: Haney and it's the guy who says he has the

638
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: biggest smile on the team. Sounds like it. He is

639
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: well traveled, very cultured kid. He comes from a military family.

640
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: He lived in England, he lived in Spain. Um he

641
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: only had two offers out of high school and one

642
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: of them was like, I think Liberty and and then

643
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: he ended up North North Greenville. Um, he's a big reader.

644
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: I mean like this this kid kind of jumped off

645
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: like the air waves to me. So like I wanna

646
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a chance to go meet him today.

647
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Speaker 1: Um and he I think his length is going to

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Speaker 1: be really attractive. Um to two other teams and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, think about it. D two schools. There are

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Speaker 1: three D two all pros in eighteen. Adam Feeling, uh

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, Brandon Williams there there, you know, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: but they make an impact. And he actually in South

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Speaker 1: Carolina where he went to high school, he was their

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Speaker 1: team was the lowest seed in whatever classification of the

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Speaker 1: playoffs ended up making it to the state title, which

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen very often. But it's kind of cool. And

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Speaker 1: so this this kid's got a cool story. And those

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Speaker 1: are kind of things that we're gonna see here all week.

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Speaker 1: Those are the kind of things that you look for.

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Speaker 1: And there are a bunch of things that you you

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Speaker 1: touched on that as an evaluated I'd be really interested

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Speaker 1: in not only the trades, but you talked about him

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Speaker 1: being well read. You talked about him, uh, kind of

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Speaker 1: having a worldly experience. There's a belief in some front

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Speaker 1: offices that you want a mature player, a player who

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Speaker 1: is very very smart, a player who is really in

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Speaker 1: touch with his academics, because there's a level of maturity

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Speaker 1: that comes with that. And so what you're describing as

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Speaker 1: a guy that is going to ender the league, ready

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Speaker 1: to be a pro, ready to be a professional, ready

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Speaker 1: to take your business. And so if he can put

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Speaker 1: anything on display here is really going to help him.

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Speaker 1: And for a small school guy in the environments, the

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Speaker 1: guy that plays at a small school, we talk about

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Speaker 1: a division to school, Division three whatever that is. When

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Speaker 1: guys playing these games, what you're hoping for is not

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Speaker 1: only do they just kind of survive, but they find

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Speaker 1: a way of thriving. Because the toughest thing when you're

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Speaker 1: doing a projection is to look at someone playing get

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Speaker 1: a D two, a D three school and say that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this guy that's dominating a bunch of lawyers and accountants

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Speaker 1: is going to have an opportunity to play in the league.

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Speaker 1: So now that he's playing against better competition, how does

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Speaker 1: he stack up? How does he fair it's great, and

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Speaker 1: he actually said he played a lot of three technique

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Speaker 1: in college. So that's another thing that could kind of

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Speaker 1: make scouts perk up on a passing down situation want

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Speaker 1: to kick him inside, right, Yeah, the inside pass rusher

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Speaker 1: um position is one that is rising in prominence. People

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Speaker 1: are looking for ways to get to the pastor and

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Speaker 1: having a guy that has some experience being in there

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Speaker 1: when snorsy um. Yeah. Uh well, those are just kind

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Speaker 1: of a little sampling of some of the stories and

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Speaker 1: some of the guys that will see all week here

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Speaker 1: at the nflp A Collegiate Bowl. Again, we've we're on

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Speaker 1: the call myself, Bucky Brooks, Mark Ross, and Omar Louise

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Speaker 1: is seven o'clock Eastern time on NFL Network. Uh. Some

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Speaker 1: of the stars of tomorrow you will see this week.

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Speaker 1: Uh So we're really excited about that, and I think

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Speaker 1: that is going to wrap us up for this edition

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Speaker 1: of the Move the Sticks Podcast. D J again down

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Speaker 1: in St. Pete, Tampa, getting ready for the East West

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Speaker 1: Shrine Game and then we're all headed down to Mobile

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Speaker 1: next week. So it's uh, it's kind of final four

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Speaker 1: time in the NFL Championship a week but it's also

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Speaker 1: All Star Game season. Uh here on the Move the

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Speaker 1: Sticks podcast world. So it's this is kind of like,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of the best time of the year, you

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Speaker 1: It is the best TEVNY years. You get to put

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Speaker 1: season while also looking at head to the twenty twenties draft.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't get much better than this, no question. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Thanks for checking out to Move

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