1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, the single best idea 2 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: of special edition. We have three voices today, just a 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: celebration of Ed Ludlow and Bloomberg Technology and what they 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: did at Apple yesterday. First we go to the shock 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: and all of European politics. Alberto Gallo was with us 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: from Andromeda. He's absolutely definitive on debt and for the 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: first time I really heard him lean into where you 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: could have geopolitical and national political shock that moves price 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: lower and yield higher. He's been writing about that, and 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: of course with the I think chaos is a proper word, 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: the chaos in France towards their two elections. They're feeling 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: it right now, there's no question about it. Virginia Mesenev 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: is iconic on Wall Street and on a Transatlantic perspective, 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: identified with Shorter. She's Alians now as his mama, del 15 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Arian and Virginia Madsenev. We should talk about equities, bonds, currencies, commodities, reguard, 16 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: you know the usual, but here we rip up the script. 17 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: Virginia Maseneuv and her friends and mister McCrow. 18 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think they are definitely linked in the sense 19 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: that if you look at President Macon. He's done quite 20 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: well on the economic front, the defense front, if you want, 21 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: the diplomacy front. But some of the concerns that I've 22 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: led the French electorate to move to the right, where 23 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: domestic issues, issues of security, fear of the war, terrorist attacks, 24 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: a lot of attacks on kids at school for example, 25 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: immigration integration, you know, all those issues are important. And 26 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: of course the far right party is more in support, 27 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: as Madame Lupine and Bardella have made it public, more 28 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: in support of Trumpsionately some links there. 29 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: I want to make an editorial point here. We have 30 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: a style at Bloomberg like anyone else. Merriam Webster leads 31 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: a charge on that. But there's been some criticism to 32 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg surveillance and the use of the phrase far right. 33 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: That is not an editorializing by us. That's the actual 34 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: names of the parties in France. There are I believe three, 35 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: definitely two, but even three separate parties in France that 36 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: use the phrase far right. We're not making that up. 37 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: That's what they're called. I just really want to mention 38 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: that because I've had some heated response, and thank you 39 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: so much for listening to what we do every day. 40 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: I lasted sixteen minutes. I tuned in, I watched paratroopers 41 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: out of the sky and Tim Cook standing trying not 42 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: to step on solar panels. And it was the Apple 43 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: thing I asked sixteen minutes. Fortunately a few others didn't. 44 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: Dan Ice is with us. Now, Gene Munster will join 45 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: in a moment. You know what Dan I is gonna say. 46 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna say he's all enthused up. But it's an 47 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: important voice because with a twenty percent lift in Apple 48 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: since April, once again, Dani's looks smart. Let's listen. 49 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: This is really Apple's castle, this Apple Intelligence, it's really 50 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: now the start of AI coming to most consumers. I 51 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: think they're gonna be able to do whatever you want. Ultimately, 52 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: this is gonna be an AI brain in your phone 53 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: that's gonna understand the user and the owner of the 54 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: phone the more and more that they're together. So they're 55 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: gonna understand your habits, restaurants, which people you like to 56 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: pick up the phone from which you don't, what photo 57 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: is you prioritize over others. And now and there is 58 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: the key time. Hundreds of apps will be built on 59 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: this stack. That is the key from a services perspective. 60 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: So there's the analysis there, and I really want to 61 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: point out it was something to see Apple through the 62 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: morning off two or three dollars off the top of 63 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: my head. One ninety three maybe, yeah, I think one 64 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: ninety three was a price. And it opened with you 65 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: know what, can I say? A lift out to one 66 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: ninety seven and I'm looking here now my eyes are 67 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: failing me on the screen, but nevertheless, a lift here 68 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: to Eric, Eric, and see the screen from six miles away. 69 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: You got an iceight like Ted Williams. Don't you what 70 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: price is Apple at right now? On that screen with 71 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: Katie Greyfeld? You know, can you actually see that it's 72 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: up three and a half points? You know, Apple's higher. 73 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: Let's leave it at that. We'll state you two ideas 74 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: here at a single best idea. A Apple's higher and 75 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 1: B I'm blind, okay. Let's Gene Munster observed that Paul 76 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: Sweeney is way behind the tech curve. 77 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: Hey, Gene, I'm out here sporting an iPhone eleven? Is 78 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: this change to A. 79 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: Is that going to prompt me to get back into 80 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: the Apple Store and upgrade in September? 81 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 4: I think it will, And I again I think that 82 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 4: this is the fundamental piece that a lot of those 83 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: who just analyze this so closely are focused on the 84 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: trees versus the forest. Is that I think that people 85 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: like you are going to see these features and want 86 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: to get upgraded. And maybe in your case, you're probably 87 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 4: due for an upgrade either way. But I think in 88 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 4: the case of many people who are three years out, 89 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 4: I think that they're going to see these features and 90 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 4: undoubtedly want them. This is the biggest change in Apple 91 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: since the iPhone came out, and that's a bold statement, 92 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: but just to put some perspective on it, over the past, 93 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: call it fifteen or so years since the iPhone came out, 94 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 4: we have seen is that, you know, we've had things 95 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 4: like Vision Pro, We've had services like Apple TV Plus, 96 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: We've had the iPad, we've had the App Store. Those 97 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 4: have been kind of the cornerstone announcements. But what this 98 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: fundamentally does is change the way that we interact with 99 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 4: these devices. It's going to add more value and Paul, 100 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: I think that that is going to be a major 101 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: catalyst for upgrades. 102 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: Here Gene Mounster with Paul Sweden, it's like, you know, 103 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: I like how we said people like you. But I 104 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: want to make clearier Paul doesn't the oldest The oldest 105 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: phone that we have at Bloomberg Surveillance, that is the 106 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: Motorola Dina Tag eight thousand X that John Tucker still handles. 107 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: It was with Gordon Gecko in a movie a few 108 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: years ago. Tucker's still using that big old thing, so 109 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: you know he's the most far by. Maybe even Tucker 110 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: will get a new iPhone. It's been a lot of fun. 111 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: We need to say thank you Ed Ludlow of Bloomberg 112 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: Technology for all of his value, had input many others 113 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: well at Bloomberg for helping us with technology. Man Deep 114 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: Singh and Agarana is well, little lengthy today but especial 115 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: with three voices on Apple Podcasts single best Idea