WEBVTT - Indestructible Materialism

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. Hey everybody, and welcome to Forward Thinking, the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that looks at the future and says we are

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<v Speaker 1>living in a material world. I'm Joe McCormick, I'm Lauren Volgabon,

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<v Speaker 1>and our host Jonathan Strickland is outsick today because modern

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<v Speaker 1>medicine isn't that good yet. Oh We're we're working on it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just kidding. It's pretty good, getting better every

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<v Speaker 1>day we do, according to Dr you know McCoy from

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<v Speaker 1>Star Trek. We're we're all we're all pretty silly right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, well so he is out and we hope

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<v Speaker 1>he's feeling better soon. But we're going to take you

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<v Speaker 1>on a little brain journey with the two of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we wanted to talk about following up with

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<v Speaker 1>a recent video that Jonathan recorded about indestructible materials, right

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<v Speaker 1>because because this whole Thoor film series has come out,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we were thinking a lot about Uru, the

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<v Speaker 1>mystical material that Thor's hammer is made out of, which

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<v Speaker 1>is completely indestructible. I don't know how much you can

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<v Speaker 1>really think about Uru, but I get what you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I've known some nerds that would probably

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with you, um, that have thought long and hard.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, so so what I got there? Hard?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't even mean to pun. This is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be I'm sorry, guys. I apologize accidental puns or

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<v Speaker 1>even worse than ones on purpose. Okay, Well, what's the concept.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a hammer that's like super hard. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't miss smash a lot of stuff with it without

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<v Speaker 1>making it smash. Yeah, which which material scientists are actually

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<v Speaker 1>working on? I mean maybe not in the thor hammer

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<v Speaker 1>applications specifically that I'm personally aware of. If if this

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<v Speaker 1>research is being done, it's not being reported to me personally. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but I mean, but that would be pretty cool, right,

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<v Speaker 1>having having material that that you can do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff too and it doesn't get hurt. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So if we're on a search for an indestructible material,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to think about for a second, like what

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<v Speaker 1>that would really mean, because in one sense, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>really have an indestructible material because material is made of atoms, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know that even atoms themselves can be destroyed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>atoms can be destroyed as in converted into energy in

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear reaction. Right, That's what you do when you

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<v Speaker 1>split an atom to create break the protons of the

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<v Speaker 1>nucleus apart from from the electrons in a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if if if you're really trying hard, but that's difficult

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<v Speaker 1>a splitting the atom. Yeah. So I think what we

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<v Speaker 1>mean when we're talking about indestructible materials is a a

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<v Speaker 1>material structure on a scale that's meaningful to us that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't I'm gonna use an Internet word here, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>fail structurally. So it's a it's it would never make

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<v Speaker 1>it onto the chemistry fail blog. Okay, yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. In terms of material science. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a a fail proof material, you can you

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about kind of three different categories. It's it's hardness,

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<v Speaker 1>which is going to be it's its resistance um to

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<v Speaker 1>to localized deformation a k A like scratching um. If

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<v Speaker 1>if you can poke it, scratch it, a braise it,

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<v Speaker 1>dent it um, then it's hardness is poor all right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've got strength, which is the ability of a

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<v Speaker 1>material to withstand applied stress without fracture um without breaking right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>so within this category you've got like um tent sile strength,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pulling, and compressive strength, which is pushing. So

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about here is is yeah, like like

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<v Speaker 1>tearing or ripping or smooching on the other end of it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not talking about being deformed, but about coming apart, right, right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for for example, if you're talking about something really strong,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be um like like ceramics or metals, and

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<v Speaker 1>something really weak on on that scale would be something

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<v Speaker 1>like would oh okay that you know that that you

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<v Speaker 1>can can't you know ceramic You're not going to pull

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<v Speaker 1>on it and you're not going to shred it, but right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then that last category is going to be toughness,

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<v Speaker 1>which is um the the amount of energy and material

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<v Speaker 1>can absorb before it cracks or breaks or otherwise permanently deforms.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how brittle an object is. So so going

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<v Speaker 1>back to like ceramics, ceramics are very strong but also

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<v Speaker 1>very brittle. Uh if you if you slack a hammer

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<v Speaker 1>at them, whether it's made of ub or not, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to shatter into a billion pieces. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like rubber, right right, rubber is is also

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<v Speaker 1>very tough, but um, but not hard at all. It's

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<v Speaker 1>soft you can poke it and leave a dent and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and not extremely strong. At a certain point it'll

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<v Speaker 1>bust apart. Okay, So that's interesting. So we want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about materials that are resilient in these different ways. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>But first of all, like do we really need this?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what would you actually use a material that's all

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<v Speaker 1>that hard for besides just a hammer? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand weapons and armor, but do we always have to

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<v Speaker 1>be so violent? Like can we use these in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that's that's nice. Well, going along with with armor,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could use it for stain resistant clothing

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<v Speaker 1>or stain proof clothing that's non violent and pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Actually, well lots of violence isn't caused by people, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's the violence that say an airplane with stands

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<v Speaker 1>when it's flying high speed against wind resistance. You could,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess build stronger airplane parts to like withstand all

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<v Speaker 1>that tension and what would you call it shaking? Yes, yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Or um or or engine parts even if if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you make the plane engine out of parts that

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<v Speaker 1>are extremely strong, then you know, not having some some

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<v Speaker 1>part of an engine fail would be pretty good. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you could think about I guess load bearing features too,

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<v Speaker 1>for building bridges and buildings and stuff like that. Yeah. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I if fewer bridge fail years over over the test

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<v Speaker 1>of time would be great. Yeah. Actually, a YouTube comment

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<v Speaker 1>or left a really cool comment on Jonathan's video, and

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<v Speaker 1>we we generally do have awesome YouTube commenters. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still personally a little bit just pleasantly shocked whenever someone

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<v Speaker 1>says something nice and not terrible YouTube. So so good

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<v Speaker 1>for good for you in particular, but but for thinking

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<v Speaker 1>viewers in general. Yeah, yeah, we love our people YouTube broadly.

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<v Speaker 1>You might be surprised if something nice happens. But yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>A commenter called the simulationist a little shout out there

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<v Speaker 1>on the video left a great suggestion. They said, what

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<v Speaker 1>about a sun probe? And I thought, oh wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>by that, I assumed this person meant a solar probe, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're going to shoot into the body of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun and send information back. Um, so that could

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<v Speaker 1>be really interesting. Now, that would be a certain specific

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<v Speaker 1>type of material resilience. It would need to survive super

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<v Speaker 1>high temperatures and gravity core, So I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>raise a question there. If we sent a probe straight

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<v Speaker 1>into the Sun, and that probe were built out of

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of magic material that meant it weren't destroyed,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it would be able to transmit information

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<v Speaker 1>back to US UM because the Sun provides a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of radiation interference. Like even when you have a satellite

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<v Speaker 1>that's crossing across the sky, if when it's in transit

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<v Speaker 1>across the Sun, meaning you know, the Sun is right

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<v Speaker 1>behind it, we often have satellite outages because of the

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<v Speaker 1>interference caused by the Sun's radiation. So if something were

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<v Speaker 1>like going all the way into the Sun, I would

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<v Speaker 1>think that level of interference would be so strong it

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<v Speaker 1>would be hard to get any information back from it

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<v Speaker 1>at all. But sure, also I'm wondering, I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>you could um broadcast out from inside a material that's indestructible.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like maybe you would run into problems. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe, but still it's a cool idea, and

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<v Speaker 1>I like the way the person that Yeah, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some super strong or super hard or super

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<v Speaker 1>tough materials. What's out there, what's the best we got

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<v Speaker 1>Diamonds diamonds. Yeah, you always hear that, right, Diamonds they're

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<v Speaker 1>the strongest material, um, are they are? They not? Diamonds

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<v Speaker 1>are hard, meaning they they resist they have strong resistance

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<v Speaker 1>to indentation like we're talking about, so it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>like scratch them. And so this is true that they're

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<v Speaker 1>very strong. I think for a long time people thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were the strongest material. Uh, turns out they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually they're not even the hardest naturally occurring substance. Um

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<v Speaker 1>they once thought that. But I mean they're still pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>We can use them for abrasive purposes, like diamond drill bits, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which are not made of pure diamond the way that's

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<v Speaker 1>a James Bond movie drill bit would would be made.

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<v Speaker 1>It just got diamond dust and an extremely extravagant drill.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of kind of want that drill. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie the most lavish tool bench every Yeah it's

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<v Speaker 1>made of gold and you're just like drilling gold on

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<v Speaker 1>a Saturday for fun. Um No, So, but yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>would have incorporated little pieces of diamonds to help make

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<v Speaker 1>it harder. Right, Because because although they may not be

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest naturally occurring substance. They're harder than many other things.

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<v Speaker 1>They had pretty much everything else. Yeah. So yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>also you can you can like grind up diamond dust

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<v Speaker 1>and use that as like an abrasive paste. It's really powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>UM And actually funny little tidbit isn't totally related, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't resist. In case you all have never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of this, UM, there's at least one known exo

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<v Speaker 1>planet out there that may be made of diamond entirely

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<v Speaker 1>of diamond entirely. Not entirely, no, but but still a

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<v Speaker 1>significant significant portion of the planet may be made of diamonds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's can cree E. It's planet's about forty light years

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<v Speaker 1>away from this solar system and it's in the constellation

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<v Speaker 1>Cancer UM. And we don't know it's composition for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but basically last year UM they looked at its transit

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<v Speaker 1>signature across the star in that solar system out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and based on that information, they deduced that it might

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<v Speaker 1>be a hard carbon planet, that it might a significant

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<v Speaker 1>amount of its structure might be pure diamond. Sweet, there's

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<v Speaker 1>the I. I just that just reminds me of this

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Who episode where wherein they were stuck on a

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<v Speaker 1>diamond planet, and really terrifying things happened. It was very upsetting.

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<v Speaker 1>If they were on this planet would be terrifying because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's the hottest place ever just that there

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<v Speaker 1>ever was. I think, well that that would also not

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<v Speaker 1>be good uh less less good for resort stays. But

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<v Speaker 1>actually so that wouldn't Even if this planet were made

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<v Speaker 1>entirely of diamonds, it wouldn't be the hardest planet possible. Um. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you could make harder planets out of a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>other naturally occurring materials. Um. I'm going to refer to

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<v Speaker 1>the findings reported in a two thousand nine Physical Review

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<v Speaker 1>Letters paper called Harder than Diamond Superior indentation strength of

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<v Speaker 1>word site, boron nitride and lawnsdale light by Pan Sung

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<v Speaker 1>Jiang and Chin uh And that, yeah, that named a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things that have been found in nature that

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<v Speaker 1>are actually harder than a diamond. And so word site

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<v Speaker 1>boron nitride and the molecule is born nitride. Word site

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<v Speaker 1>refers to the crystal structure of it, and that's formed

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<v Speaker 1>in volcanic eruptions. And apparently this stuff they found could

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<v Speaker 1>withstand eighteen percent more indentation stress than a diamond lawnsdale light.

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<v Speaker 1>Note how it just horribly Yeah, it doesn't unpleasant. These

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<v Speaker 1>names are tongue the way that diamond does. I mean. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess there hasn't been entire industry selling me um

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<v Speaker 1>lawnsdalelight since I was a tiny child as a symbol

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<v Speaker 1>of hope for my romantic future. Yeah, Lonsdale eight is

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<v Speaker 1>basically it's a different form of diamond kind of it's

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<v Speaker 1>a hexagonally configured diamond. These hexagonal structures you're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>are really important. But it's uh, it's found in tiny quantities,

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<v Speaker 1>I like in some meteorites sometimes, and it could withstand

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight percent condentations dressed in diamonds. So these are

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<v Speaker 1>things you can find in nature, though admittedly in pretty

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<v Speaker 1>tiny quantities. All Right, you're not gonna just just stumble

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<v Speaker 1>across the whole rock of that. What if if you're

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<v Speaker 1>out for a walk or something. Yeah, Now, something you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably not going to find in nature is aggregated diamond

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<v Speaker 1>nano rods. Aggregated diamond nano rod sounds like an eighties

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<v Speaker 1>insult exact nano rod. Yeah, we're well, we're all nano

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<v Speaker 1>rods around here. But basically it's a It comes from carbon,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of these very resilient materials are made

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<v Speaker 1>of carbon um. But basically it's a way of processing

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<v Speaker 1>carbon high heat and pressure into this higher density diamond

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<v Speaker 1>form um and based. These things could also be really

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<v Speaker 1>useful in industrial settings like diamonds. Uh, they're a little

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<v Speaker 1>stronger and they could be used for machine ing or abrasives. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They're basically like beefed up diamonds stuff. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's cool, and that makes sense a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about because because carbon is is a

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<v Speaker 1>type of atom that can bond really easily with other stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>including itself, it can form into all different um allotropes

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<v Speaker 1>of of carbon, which is where you get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that that graphite is one of the softest

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<v Speaker 1>naturally occurring substances that we know and diamond is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the hardest, and they're both made of the same stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>just arranged slightly differently. So so that's so that's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is all good. Well, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>give one more shout out something that occurs in the

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<v Speaker 1>natural world, again, not indestructible, but spider silk, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd i'd read about that. Um it's being ridiculously tensile. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's got a high tensile strength, which is different. Um. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>what that means is you can pull it like a

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<v Speaker 1>rope without it snapping, and you can even know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a thread thread thin. Yeah, incredibly high weight load bearing

0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.439
<v Speaker 1>on that. So and that just comes out of a

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<v Speaker 1>spider's butt. So that's pretty impressive, right. Yeah. Not many

0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.640
<v Speaker 1>things that are that strong are made that easily. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>For for example, graphing is another one of these allotropes

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<v Speaker 1>of well, okay, it's it's graphing is a is a

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<v Speaker 1>single layer of carbon atoms that are arranged in this

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<v Speaker 1>hexagonal matrix. Um. So, so it's a single atom thick

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<v Speaker 1>sheet of graphite. UM. I'm not buying it. That's super

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<v Speaker 1>hard right now, It's really it's really, it's really quite hard. Um. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, graphites a crystal form of carbon, and so

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<v Speaker 1>when you get this this atom thick sheet, um, it

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<v Speaker 1>can be six times lighter and a hundred times stronger

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<v Speaker 1>than steel of the same thickness. Um. It's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it does. UM. I mean, basically, since

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<v Speaker 1>it's a technically a two dimensional object, or as close

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<v Speaker 1>as we can get to to a two dimensional object

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<v Speaker 1>that we can still perceive. Since it's an atom thick um,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to bust apart the atoms to really

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<v Speaker 1>get it to break, which is not that easy to do. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>it also comes I mean by by the time that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got graphine um. This this is what carbon nanotubes

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<v Speaker 1>are made of. Most of the time you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>roll it up into these into these couple atom thick

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<v Speaker 1>tubes of of awesome um that you can use to

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of different stuff. I think carbon nanotubes

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<v Speaker 1>for me, they fit into the category of science magic

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like there are two main things. There's nanotechnology

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<v Speaker 1>and carbon nanotubes, and anytime you need magic to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>you just say, yeah, just put some carbon nanotubes in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one or the other. But but there may be

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<v Speaker 1>a good reason for that, because these things are pretty

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<v Speaker 1>dern magical. Yeah. And in addition to being that strong,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more conducive than copper. They can either emit or

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<v Speaker 1>absorb light depending on what you're having them do. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my h they were okay, so so Graphing

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<v Speaker 1>was known about in theory for decades, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>never created in practice until around two thousand four. Assists

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<v Speaker 1>and researchers in a laboratory. Um, we're using scotch tape

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<v Speaker 1>like sellotape to to clean the surface of blocks of graphite.

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden they noticed they they

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<v Speaker 1>like pulled. They wanted to get it cleaner, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they were using the sticky stuff and then they pulled

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<v Speaker 1>it up and kind of noted that there was this

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<v Speaker 1>near translucent, very thin layers of graphite stuck to the

0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.800
<v Speaker 1>scotch tape. And they were like, oh, that's interesting. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the interesting parts. We were just throwing that away. You

0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.040
<v Speaker 1>put on your face to clean your pores. You've seen

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<v Speaker 1>those commercials, right, except it for graphic creates the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>substance on earth, right. Yeah, no, And this is a

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<v Speaker 1>legit scientific way of making sheets of graphing. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit thicker at that point. These days they're

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<v Speaker 1>using pretty precise, like heat scraping methods. I don't entirely

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<v Speaker 1>understand without looking at that a whole lot, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>but so okay, So, so you can use this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff for I mean, the big one that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is always excited about with graphine and carbon nanotubes is

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<v Speaker 1>space elevators, right, because you've you've got to make that

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<v Speaker 1>tether that so strong and so thin. Just a refresher

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't listened to our space elevator episode. And

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<v Speaker 1>the idea is that you have a base on Earth

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<v Speaker 1>with a flexible tether running out into space to a

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<v Speaker 1>place in geo stationary orbit, and basically, um the two

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<v Speaker 1>forces are pulling, so gravity is pulling down on the tether,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the centrifugal force of spinning around with the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth is pulling up on the tether, getting it tout right,

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<v Speaker 1>and by both those forces pulling in the opposite directions,

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<v Speaker 1>it stays so that you can climb it with a

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<v Speaker 1>climbing vehicle. The problem is to make a tether like this,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have to be so strong it's just unthinkable,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, and the way that steel works, it would

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<v Speaker 1>have to be you know, like a you miles wide,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, in order to make it strong enough to

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<v Speaker 1>go that high. It's like something completely ridiculous, right, that

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<v Speaker 1>is just not practical in any way, um on on

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller scale, alright, So uh, typically speaking, your carbon nantitubes,

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<v Speaker 1>even in a really ideal lab environment, are only going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a few centimeters long. I think that researchers

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<v Speaker 1>just have made one that was like half a meter long,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone is incredibly impressed by this. But researchers at

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<v Speaker 1>Rice University have created a UM a process called wet spinning,

0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.000
<v Speaker 1>which which kind of which kind of smooshes them together

0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and like like sort of dissolves them and then re

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<v Speaker 1>smoshes them in a very specific way that can form

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<v Speaker 1>this thread UM and then you can spin this threat

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<v Speaker 1>into spools and you can use it to for example,

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<v Speaker 1>both hang and power and LED lamp at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>because because it's conducive and it's super strong and so

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<v Speaker 1>and so this is you know, that kind of process

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<v Speaker 1>I think is going to may be some day hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>lead us up to space elevators. But right now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty impressed that they're hanging a lamp. That's pretty awesome, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and elevators kind of like hanging lamp, a very large

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<v Speaker 1>geostationary lamp. Yeah yeah, sorry, please go ahead, no no, UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I was also going to say that, you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about incorporating carbonana tubes into other materials like uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like like again the body of planes or cars. This

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<v Speaker 1>is going to It would make something that's very lightweight

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<v Speaker 1>but hypothetically very strong, which is good for for fuel

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<v Speaker 1>efficiency and all kinds of fancy stuff like that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>since they're conducive, you could put them into stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>a like computer chips hypothetically and uh and make some

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<v Speaker 1>some really fancy stuff like that. Awesome. Yeah, I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>read about that being used in h microprocessors. But what's

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<v Speaker 1>the deal with carbine? Jonathan talked about it in the

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<v Speaker 1>video and he's not here to explain it to me,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Carbine. Carbine is another allotrope of carbon more carbon. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>it is linear act alnic carbon I'm gonna go with

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<v Speaker 1>that pronunciation u uh, and it forms in a single

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<v Speaker 1>chain of atoms, the most successful form so far as pollens,

0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:21.040
<v Speaker 1>which are alternating single and triple atomic bonds in the

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<v Speaker 1>single chain. And since it's a single chain, it's sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>referred to as being a one dimensional object, as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to the kind of two dimensional graphing plane, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not really um but it also doesn't I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so so people have kind of almost made it happen

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<v Speaker 1>in labs, but most of the time when they try

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<v Speaker 1>to create it in labs, it's sort of this black

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<v Speaker 1>goo at the bottom of a test tube that no

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<v Speaker 1>one can really do anything with. It mostly exists in

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<v Speaker 1>theory and as computer models because these things are just

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<v Speaker 1>just really hard to make and not superstable as of yet. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But hypothetically the stuff could be twice as strong as

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<v Speaker 1>graphing in terms of tensile strength, and um three times stiffer,

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<v Speaker 1>like harder than diamond. So yeah, that's pretty good. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>when you twist it like ninety degrees from its normal state,

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<v Speaker 1>it could act as a magnetic semiconductor, so important stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it could be really lightweight and have a

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<v Speaker 1>huge surface area if you could, you know, create threads

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<v Speaker 1>of this and use those to create some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>three dimensional object, and therefore it could be amazing for

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<v Speaker 1>making like battery electrodes or chemical sensors, anything that you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Those those properties in space elevators. Again, space elevators, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice. The future is carbon related space elevators of

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<v Speaker 1>some kind. Well, so pretty much everything we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>so far is carbon based. But I do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about something with special properties that's not heard of,

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<v Speaker 1>super alloys. I have not to tell me about them,

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<v Speaker 1>super alloys, Okay. So basically they're they're alloy metals that

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<v Speaker 1>have good performance in extreme conditions. So you can think

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<v Speaker 1>about like nickel alloys and what they do. As they say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's strong at really really high heat, whereas something like steel, say,

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<v Speaker 1>might be weakened structurally by high heat. Yeah. These nickel

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<v Speaker 1>super alloys, you can heat them way up and they

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<v Speaker 1>still stay strong, and they also resist corrosion, and this

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<v Speaker 1>makes them ideal for stuff like gas turbine parts. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hot in there, they're not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>distorted or be more prone to breaking over time than

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<v Speaker 1>become brittle the way that right, normal metal might. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this would make them great, say in jet jet

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<v Speaker 1>engines for airplanes, or in like power generator hardware. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Also an interesting thing is that it was a nickel

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<v Speaker 1>alloy that Jonathan was talking about in the video when

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<v Speaker 1>he referred to the m I T scientists discovering the

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<v Speaker 1>self healing materials. Yeah yeah, yeah. So this was another

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<v Speaker 1>paper in Physical Review Letters published October. It was called

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<v Speaker 1>Healing Nano Cracks by disclinations but zoo and dim cowits.

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<v Speaker 1>And essentially what this showed was that nano cracks, so

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<v Speaker 1>really tiny fractures in the in the plane of the

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>metal would repair themselves without being compressed together. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>so these like these little tiny crystal in structures within

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<v Speaker 1>the metal would would gloop back together without having to

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<v Speaker 1>be pushed into each other. And so so we're basically

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<v Speaker 1>talking about yeah kind of yeah Patrick nano scale. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully less grumpy than him, because you know, he never

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<v Speaker 1>had that sense of humor like the the original Terminator

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:40.399
<v Speaker 1>did he really he really never He never made any jokes.

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:45.919
<v Speaker 1>He had just dour about everything killing all the time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully these crystal defects have you know, less interest in

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<v Speaker 1>the total destruction of the human race. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>fingers crossed, Yeah, okay, So I want to I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about one more thing that. Um, the funny

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>thing you'll know this is that none of these that

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about are actually indestructible, uh spoiler. We don't

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 1>know of any material that's actually indestructible in the way

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that we talked about at the beginning, and that it's

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to cause it to fail structurally, right, But aren't

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 1>there basically a lot of of elements that we don't

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.160
<v Speaker 1>really know the full scope of properties of. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is another thing I wanted to talk about. When we're

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<v Speaker 1>speaking about materials with special properties, you can pull up

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<v Speaker 1>the periodic table and you can look at it and say, hmm, okay,

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>well we're focusing a lot on this one square of it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is carbon. Or you can make molecules out of,

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, combining different combining different stuff, and we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good at creating computer models of what that would

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 1>look like without ever having to actually smooth atoms together. Yeah,

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:56.159
<v Speaker 1>but we've got nothing indestructible yet. But um, there's if

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>you go down to the bottom of the periodic table,

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<v Speaker 1>all these weird symbols like you you p U T

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<v Speaker 1>you know what is all that about. I have never

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 1>had any idea at all. After like Boron, I'm just like, yeah,

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it gets boring after Boron. No, actually it doesn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>gets really interestingly Yeah, Okay, So I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a little bit earlier this year, something that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>um was that a group of scientists confirmed the synthesis

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<v Speaker 1>of element one fifteen otherwise known as unnpenti um um.

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<v Speaker 1>That just that again pentium. Either way, it rolls off

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the tongue much like those. It's a horrible name and

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a temporary name. The way they come up with

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>names for what these are called are transuranic elements. There

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>are there are all these elements that are way up

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<v Speaker 1>higher than uranium, because uranium is the biggest element that

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<v Speaker 1>you're likely to find in nature. So yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 1>find hunks of uranium in the desert. You're never going

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<v Speaker 1>to find a hunk of unupenti um in the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>And and that's because of the the molecular are not molecular,

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<v Speaker 1>but the atomic structure, because because it's such a heavy

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's that's a dred and fifteen protons and

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<v Speaker 1>in a single nucleus. Yeah, yeah, exactly um. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger these nucle i get when you're making these

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<v Speaker 1>bigger elements, they tend to split apart really fast um.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why you don't find them in nature. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they'd been fused in nature, they wouldn't hang

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<v Speaker 1>around for very long. And by not very long, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like like fractions of a second right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so how do we discover these new things? Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>actually create them. We create these higher level elements in

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<v Speaker 1>the lab by smashing together elements with lower atomic numbers

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<v Speaker 1>and hoping that they combine to produce this bigger atom.

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<v Speaker 1>So so like in a in a particle accelerator, this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing would be going on exactly right. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So they recently confirmed earlier scientists us in dubbed No

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<v Speaker 1>Russia and Lawrence Livermore had created element one um and

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<v Speaker 1>that was I think in two thousand three, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just now confirmed it that they recreated it and so

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully it's going to get a permanent name. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>these other ones don't have those weird like systematic names,

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<v Speaker 1>liken pentium, which actually just means one one five e

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<v Speaker 1>m um um, pretty clever. Yeah. But the cool thing

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<v Speaker 1>about all these is that, um, we don't know for

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<v Speaker 1>sure all of the properties of these elements until we

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<v Speaker 1>synthesize them. So if we could we we could create

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<v Speaker 1>some and get it to stabilize enough to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>for more than a few fractions of a second, then um,

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, it might it might be able to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows, Yeah, it might work, might have a technological application. Um,

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.959
<v Speaker 1>this shows up in science fiction and there's actually there

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<v Speaker 1>was a UFO conspiracy theorist named Bob Lasar, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you read about him, I don't think so. Now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he claimed that he worked at air A fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>and that he worked on alien spacecraft. What he said

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<v Speaker 1>was that they used that their anti gravity fuel was

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<v Speaker 1>made of elopment one ff of on unpentium. Well that

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<v Speaker 1>seems unlikely. No, it's not true at all. Um, It's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's not telling the truth about that. But what

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<v Speaker 1>it highlights, what I said in my blog, is that

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't say that about lead, I mean, just because

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<v Speaker 1>we know. But it does highlight the unknown potential of

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<v Speaker 1>these as yet undiscovered atoms. And so uh, if you

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<v Speaker 1>could find atoms that were really big and actually did

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<v Speaker 1>stay around for a long time before breaking apart at

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<v Speaker 1>the nucleus, that could be cool. Maybe they actually would

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<v Speaker 1>be useful in some technological sense. Um, So are we

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<v Speaker 1>ever going to find atoms like that? Well, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is this idea. It's called the island of stability,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been theorized by people like in Seaborg, who

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<v Speaker 1>was a chemist who won the Nobel Prize he discovered

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<v Speaker 1>plutonium um and uh, what he said is that, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it could be that we get up to

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<v Speaker 1>a certain point on the periodic table and we actually

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<v Speaker 1>find some really really big atoms that, because of the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the structure of the nucleus and the ratio

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<v Speaker 1>of neutrons to protons within the nucleus, don't fly apart immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>They're more stable than all of the ones around them.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're in this sea of instability, but they're the

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<v Speaker 1>island of stability. I haven't found anything like that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>The really high numbers we've found so far are short lived,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, it's cool to keep looking. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if there is an entire planet mostly made of diamond

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<v Speaker 1>out there, then I think that probably the universe is

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<v Speaker 1>a very strange and wonderful place we should continue exploring. Yet. Yeah, Okay,

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