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Speaker 1: know that means we got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1: Last night was NXT Homecoming. We'll have a full recap
Speaker 1: on the show today. Tonight is aw See. Remember it's
Speaker 1: actually a three hour block and it looks like we've
Speaker 1: got eleven segments announced for the show, which has to
Speaker 1: be a world record, I think for any individual episode
Speaker 1: of Dynamite. They are letting you know what's on the
Speaker 1: show tonight, So we'll see how it does in the ratings.
Speaker 1: We'll go over the full lineup for the show and
Speaker 1: where everything is going heading to the double pay per
Speaker 1: view weekend. We've got aw All Out which is taking
Speaker 1: place during the day on Saturday, and we have a
Speaker 1: Russell Palooza which is taking place during the night. And
Speaker 1: for those of you wondering the weekend coverage looks to
Speaker 1: be Vinnie and I will be watching All Out live.
Speaker 1: We will do a post show immediately afterwards. I will
Speaker 1: then do a show later in the evening with Dave
Speaker 1: talking All Out and Russell Palooza, and then Sunday's Bryan
Speaker 1: of any show, we'll cover Wressel Palooza. We'll get Vinie's
Speaker 1: and Craig's thoughts on that. So a lot of coverage
Speaker 1: of all of these shows coming up this weekend. We'll
Speaker 1: preview everything here and then we got a lot of
Speaker 1: news regarding Wressell Palooza ESPN. They did some media calls.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun to go over
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Speaker 1: Back on the show, Brian Alvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live Filthy.
Speaker 1: Tom Lawler is joining.
Speaker 3: Us here today, what's up, Skipper?
Speaker 1: And apparently tomorrow as well because our old buddy Orange
Speaker 1: Crush is going to be on the show. He's got
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, Tom.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing that includes a lot of art.
Speaker 1: I know you're a fan. It's a secret actually on tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there actually is a secret, but that'll be tomorrow. So
Speaker 1: tonight is September to remember, a three hour block of
Speaker 1: aw programming and eleven segments. Eleven segments announced for this show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be busy tomorrow three hours again, ye ahi,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Corumba, Well, you know you can always fast forward through
Speaker 1: commercials and cut about twenty minutes off the show. I
Speaker 1: found he realized the other day. Dave actually told me
Speaker 1: that they normally announced lots of things in advance. He
Speaker 1: actually said that to me. I think he can't just
Speaker 1: help but argue, this is the most that has been
Speaker 1: announced for a Dynamite shown advance. I think of all time,
Speaker 1: I said, dating back to twenty twenty, this at this point.
Speaker 1: With eleven matches announced for Dynamite in advance, what they do.
Speaker 3: You even have eleven matches in three hours?
Speaker 1: Well, there's eleven segments, but the actually most of these
Speaker 1: are matches. We have three all out tag title match qualifiers,
Speaker 1: Young Bucks versus The Gun Club, Lucasaurs and Kip Saban
Speaker 1: versus Jet Speed top Flight versus Josh Alexander and Etchi Sero.
Speaker 1: All of those matches should be good, if not great.
Speaker 1: We have Tekla versus Queen Amanada, which scares the bejezus
Speaker 1: of me because they had a match once and and
Speaker 1: Queen Amanada I think tried to kill her and now
Speaker 1: they're doing a no holds barred match. We have got
Speaker 1: an all out unified title match qualifier. The winner of
Speaker 1: this match will be in the three way with uh
Speaker 1: Tekeushta and Okada, and it's the Beast Mortas versus Mascarriderata.
Speaker 1: The Beast Mortos is booked elsewhere on Saturday. If you
Speaker 1: don't want spoilers, I just ruined it for you. But
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe something crazy will happen. Bobby Lashley will
Speaker 1: face Total Leona, which is very much like Tecla versus
Speaker 1: Queen Aminada, but in a different way because these guys
Speaker 1: had a brawl on the show last Wednesday, and uh
Speaker 1: and Bobby Lashley didn't sell one thing for Total Leona,
Speaker 1: not one thing. Now they're gonna have a match together,
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be exciting. John Moxley versus Roderick Strong,
Speaker 1: Hangman Page and Kyle Fletcher have a contract signing. There's
Speaker 1: an FTR face to face with Copeland and Christian, there's
Speaker 1: a Tony Storm feature, and there's Rijo versus Robin Renegade
Speaker 1: all tonight on September to Remember.
Speaker 3: For aw, you almost forgot September to Remember.
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't almost forget. I got a text message
Speaker 1: like I always do, right in the middle of trying
Speaker 1: to recap something which throws me off my game. I
Speaker 1: should just shut all of this down, but sometimes it's
Speaker 1: something important. So anyway, that's the line up here tonight. Excited.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, dude, it's three hours of wrestling.
Speaker 3: We got three hours of wrestling almost every single day.
Speaker 1: We only had two hours last night on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: SmackDown's back to two. You should be happy about that.
Speaker 1: Although this weekend, I'll bet we have nine hours of
Speaker 1: wrestling because.
Speaker 3: Oh, all Out starts for good, because it never ends,
Speaker 3: because it never ends my entire life, whether I want
Speaker 3: it or not, whether I can't escape it, every single
Speaker 3: freaking weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hours and hours.
Speaker 3: And this weekend it's all something. It's all wrestling because
Speaker 3: it's Wressell Palooza and aew.
Speaker 1: Well, this weekend's gonna be silly because Wrestle Palooza and
Speaker 1: All Out were originally head to head and then Tony
Speaker 1: moved All Out to twelve Pacific three Eastern. But the
Speaker 1: last time this happened, the last time they did this,
Speaker 1: he deliberately ran like the longest show of all time
Speaker 1: to try to bleed into the wrestle. So it's actually
Speaker 1: gonna probably be even longer because you know, instead of
Speaker 1: going head to head, we're just gonna go really long
Speaker 1: and end up head to head at the end, and
Speaker 1: then we got Russell Palooza, which is on whatever it's on.
Speaker 3: Okay, the problem with that is that I'm sorry, but
Speaker 3: the proto Star versus Hangman doesn't have quite the same
Speaker 3: juice that they had last time they went head to head,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Well, I do know what you mean, but I think
Speaker 1: the bigger issue is that some people are still stuck
Speaker 1: with this idea that you don't have a choice, you
Speaker 1: must choose only one or the other. And it's twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five.
Speaker 3: Can you please make sure that I have to do
Speaker 3: that choice?
Speaker 1: I literally force me to. Please, Dude, Name one show
Speaker 1: I've wanted to watch, not one I wanted to go to,
Speaker 1: because that's triple a. Name one show that I've wanted
Speaker 1: to watch that I didn't because of a timing issue
Speaker 1: or a head to head or whatever. It's twenty twenty five, everybody,
Speaker 1: If you want to watch a show, you're just gonna
Speaker 1: watch the show. It doesn't matter if it's head to
Speaker 1: head with another show. It doesn't matter if it's the
Speaker 1: same day as another show. It doesn't matter which show's
Speaker 1: going first or last. You're gonna watch the shows you
Speaker 1: want to watch. That's it. So, I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, where you know your cable provider is
Speaker 1: either gonna give you a Survivor series or I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not like that anymore. Well, we can all watch everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you also may not want to watch everything. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you know what, the stuff there's college football going on.
Speaker 1: Now, you're right, but you know what, what's my point?
Speaker 1: If you want to watch one of them, you're gonna
Speaker 1: watch it, right. Are you gonna miss your Turkish oil
Speaker 1: wrestling if you want to watch it?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: Correct, Actually there was like five tournaments this past weekend.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch any of them.
Speaker 1: Well, you didn't want to watch it because I was
Speaker 1: I had to watch wrestling. If you would want to
Speaker 1: watch that Turkish oil wrestling, you would have watched it,
Speaker 1: or you would have found the match you wanted to see.
Speaker 1: If there was Turkish oil wrestling in the Armor, you'd
Speaker 1: have watched it.
Speaker 3: The season is over, the Energy League season is over,
Speaker 3: and they're just doing tournaments now for the fun of it. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: so there's less stakes much like this aew all out show.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty big lineup compared.
Speaker 3: To the last the one in England that.
Speaker 1: Was that was literally their biggest show of the year.
Speaker 1: We got Hangman versus Kyle Fletcher aw title. We got
Speaker 1: Copin and Christian against FTR, Mercedes against Rijo for the
Speaker 1: TBS title, Okada Takeshta and whoever wins that match tonight
Speaker 1: in a three way Broddo against the three winners of
Speaker 1: the three matches tonight in a ladder match.
Speaker 3: Hold on, so it's hold on, Yes, we back up,
Speaker 3: it's Mascara Dorata. Isn't that match tonight?
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, Yeah, he's gonna win, So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Derata Takeshta and Okada unified title. Three man, we got Hurt,
Speaker 1: Cindy Kid versus Ricochet and Gates of Agony, six Man,
Speaker 1: Moxley and Darby in a coffin match, Tony Storm against Tekla,
Speaker 1: Jamie Hayter and Chris stat Lanner in a four way
Speaker 1: for the women's title, MGF versus Mark Risco, Tables and
Speaker 1: Tax Match and Eddie Kingston against Big Bill is your
Speaker 1: lineup for all Out? And then Russell Palooza has Sena
Speaker 1: and Lesner, Cody and Drew for the w WE title.
Speaker 1: Eo versus Stephanie for the World title, the Women's title,
Speaker 1: Siam Punk and aj levers is Seth and Becky, which
Speaker 1: really is the biggest match on the show. And Braun
Speaker 1: and Braun versus USSO and USO to might be the
Speaker 1: first time ever we've had a match like that. Braun
Speaker 1: and Braun versus USO and USO. So there you go,
Speaker 1: big weekend. What are you gonna What are you gonna watch? First?
Speaker 3: Turkish oil wrestling idiots?
Speaker 1: Any of these shows sound more exciting than the other time.
Speaker 3: If I was forced to choose, I'd watch Russell Paluza Okay,
Speaker 3: because I think it's the more noteworthy, newsworthy of the
Speaker 3: two shows. If I was watching it for action, well,
Speaker 3: it's going to be almost always aw.
Speaker 1: I guess we probably have had Hardy and Hardy versus
Speaker 1: USO and USO. It must have happened before.
Speaker 3: Well, this isn't two people with the same last name.
Speaker 3: It's two people with the same first name. It's true,
Speaker 3: two people with the same last name.
Speaker 1: That's true. So that has never happened.
Speaker 3: Well, it may have.
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything, because Vince never would allow
Speaker 1: to people with the same name and even be in
Speaker 1: the company at the same time. Right, figured out everybody
Speaker 1: back in a moment Observer Live.
Speaker 2: You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike simper Vivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: Hi, what card is this?
Speaker 3: What on Planet Earth?
Speaker 1: Second?
Speaker 3: For a minute, I have no absolutely no clue what
Speaker 3: happened with Brian here, but during the break, some sort
Speaker 3: of calamity has overtaken him. I suppose we could look
Speaker 3: at a little bit of the news before we get
Speaker 3: into NXT. Here in a moment, if there is any news. Ah,
Speaker 3: here we go from the front page of The Wrestling
Speaker 3: Observer cm Punk. Having aj Lee back in WW is
Speaker 3: like a dream come true. He's having the time of
Speaker 3: his life. Punk told part in my take when I
Speaker 3: asked about his wife's return. Oh, right, like the uber
Speaker 3: nerdiest wife guy. I always like to say, I try
Speaker 3: to spend as much time with my wife as I can.
Speaker 3: I spend a lot of time with her. It never
Speaker 3: feels like it's enough. So having her back in this
Speaker 3: environment with me. What are you talking about is like
Speaker 3: a dream come true. I'm talking about the biggest angle
Speaker 3: on raw talking about some comments from cmpunk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very happy.
Speaker 3: That's about the return of his wife. Oh, j Lee.
Speaker 1: Well, what I was doing during the break is do
Speaker 1: you know how to get this new YESPN thing?
Speaker 3: Well, I have it, so it depends on so.
Speaker 1: You already signed up?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I hadn't when I went to ESPN and
Speaker 1: they right in the upper left it's it's sign up.
Speaker 1: Click here to sign up?
Speaker 3: What all right? To listen to you and Dave argue
Speaker 3: back and forth and have no clue what either one
Speaker 3: of you were talking about the other night you did. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a thirty dollars bundle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just that's why I was doing during the break.
Speaker 3: Has Disney and Hulu along with ESPN.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I was doing during the break. That's
Speaker 1: why I had you take over because it was like,
Speaker 1: it goes last four digits and I didn't know what
Speaker 1: card it was talking about, so I find whatever card
Speaker 1: it was on. But yes, I now have ESPN, Unlimited,
Speaker 1: Disney and Hulu Plus Live TV, all of these, so
Speaker 1: I am. I am ready to go.
Speaker 3: I don't think you have Hulu Plus Live TV.
Speaker 1: No I did. I got the bundle or I got
Speaker 1: Hulu whatever you go.
Speaker 3: There's a big difference between those two.
Speaker 1: Well what do I get with this?
Speaker 3: Just Hulu with probably Futurama or something. Who the heck noes?
Speaker 1: I got a bundle. So do I have Hulu?
Speaker 3: Now you have? Yes, you have Hulu, but you don't
Speaker 3: have Hulu Live.
Speaker 1: I see Okay, this is really hard.
Speaker 3: This is really no. It's not that confusing, just not
Speaker 3: that hard.
Speaker 1: It says, what's the difference between Hulu and Hulu plus
Speaker 1: Live TV.
Speaker 3: One of them has live pell of one is just
Speaker 3: old shows. So I do have the old shows.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, cool.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, some people like to watch stuff because
Speaker 3: if you're gonna watch something, you're gonna watch it anyways.
Speaker 3: You're right, it doesn't matter if it's live, if you
Speaker 3: really want to watch it, You're correct, You're gonna watch
Speaker 3: it later.
Speaker 1: You're correct. I forgot you were one of the people
Speaker 1: that argue that they should have moved the star time.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Oh well, hey, uh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna test something out here as well, because there
Speaker 1: was a media call, an ESPN media call, and uh,
Speaker 1: ESPN Plus Senior Vice President J. T. Lasker and VP
Speaker 1: of Programming and Acquisitions Matt kenny Or asked if those
Speaker 1: who report on wrestling will have quote full independence in
Speaker 1: how they do so, he said, I think the answer
Speaker 1: to that is an emphatic yes, an unequivocal yes. There's
Speaker 1: a separation of church and state, and we have some
Speaker 1: pr folks on the call that can underscore that. But yes,
Speaker 1: so they're saying they don't care what you say. If
Speaker 1: they don't care how you report on WWE, they don't
Speaker 1: care you have full independence and how we report on WWE.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: I wasn't paying attention. I was watching people argue in
Speaker 3: the chat they are we have full independence reporting on them?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You and me?
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the YouTube chat?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What were they arguing about?
Speaker 3: Anything?
Speaker 1: ESPN and how to watch it and if it's plus
Speaker 1: or unlimited or E. It's gonna be a disaster Saturday.
Speaker 1: You know what's gonna be like. It's gonna be like
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six when I couldn't find the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Yep, but I already found this ESPN thing,
Speaker 1: So I'm good to go. The rest of you gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna feel how I felt when they aired that
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame on three feet call whatever it was
Speaker 1: on back, and that I still don't even know. I
Speaker 1: don't even know how we were supposed to watch the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame back in two thousand and six. It's
Speaker 1: still a mystery.
Speaker 3: Maybe at ww New York you could have popped in
Speaker 3: and watched it.
Speaker 1: So now in addition to all of this, they claim
Speaker 1: they were asked about Russell Balooza running against All Out,
Speaker 1: and they claimed that competition had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: It's just a coincidence whether they are running head to
Speaker 1: head or they were running head to head until Tony
Speaker 1: moved with All Out. This fella. Matt Kenny here said
Speaker 1: they will work collaboratively with w on the schedule, and
Speaker 1: in this case, many of WWE's events have already been
Speaker 1: scheduled for the year. He said. Traditionally, what are you
Speaker 1: doing over there?
Speaker 3: Moderating?
Speaker 1: He said, Traditionally ESPN would work with a partners part
Speaker 1: of a lengthy process in scheduling dates, working together on
Speaker 1: a calendar. He said. The pls were not supposed to
Speaker 1: start until April of twenty twenty six, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: until WWE negotiated with NBCU and Peacock to get out
Speaker 1: early that ESPN was able to move the timetable up.
Speaker 1: And once they did, dang it, they wanted something big
Speaker 1: in September. It just happened to be the same day
Speaker 1: as aw all Out. So I will say this, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe they're telling the truth and going forward there will
Speaker 1: not be head to head battle because WWE did want
Speaker 1: to go head to head with Aw's World's End and
Speaker 1: an ESPN they were like, Nope, not happening, can't have
Speaker 1: that day. So you know, all of these other head
Speaker 1: to heads prior had always been with Peacock. So I'm very,
Speaker 1: very skeptical that we will never see a head to
Speaker 1: head battle again. I don't believe it for a second.
Speaker 1: But perhaps they're telling the truth and this is the
Speaker 1: last time and any other time it happens in the
Speaker 1: future will surely be merely a coincidence.
Speaker 3: Well, we are going to have a head to head
Speaker 3: battle at the beginning of October, but that is TV. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not by the WWE's doings. By aw Right. Well
Speaker 3: they they they're moved because of sports.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they happen to be head to head with NXT.
Speaker 1: So some other notes, they said that WWE retains creative,
Speaker 1: which really I'm not surprised ESPN is not booking WWE.
Speaker 1: They said Russell Palooza will be part of the ESPN
Speaker 1: multiview option, which will allow fans to watch action alongside
Speaker 1: other ESPN live sports programming. So if you want to
Speaker 1: watch like fifty things at the same time. I guess
Speaker 1: you can do that. I don't know what this is
Speaker 1: about because I watch sports. They're continuing to work with
Speaker 1: various cable streaming providers that ESPN airs on in order
Speaker 1: to give those subscribers access to ESPN unlimited. They say
Speaker 1: that by the turn of the calendar year, the vast
Speaker 1: majority of their existing ESPN subscriber base will have access
Speaker 1: to the service, with the ultimate goal being to turn
Speaker 1: the vast majority into all so, he says, ads of
Speaker 1: now deals with providers like Exfinity comcasts and YouTube have
Speaker 1: not been completed. Well, if you have DirecTV, Fubo, Spectrum,
Speaker 1: Hulu Live, and Verizon FiOS, you do, He says. They
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with the content archive, only the plees,
Speaker 1: so we'll see where those go when the Peacock deal
Speaker 1: is out. The third questions about a Baseball Tonight live
Speaker 1: coverage WWE coverage show, Well, I'm sure they'll have full
Speaker 1: uh you know, he said that. Ask what metrics they
Speaker 1: are using to determine whether this relationship is a success.
Speaker 1: He said he couldn't share target numbers, but they want
Speaker 1: to grow ESPN's overall audience and attract new subscribers.
Speaker 3: So well, well, I mean he's got a point there.
Speaker 3: I mean I would assume that most of the ww fans, I.
Speaker 1: Mean maybe what you don't watch sports, right, I listen,
Speaker 1: I have watched for a while. They got one guy.
Speaker 3: So Vinnie watches sports? Does Craig watch sports?
Speaker 1: I think Craig watches sports. I don't know how many
Speaker 1: of them subscribed to ESPN Unlimited though, that's the question.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a brand new thing, so it's kind of
Speaker 3: a mood point.
Speaker 1: Well, the point is would they have subscribed to it? Actually,
Speaker 1: I know I can tell you for a fact because
Speaker 1: Vinnie didn't even know he had to pay thirty bucks
Speaker 1: a month. So Vinnie is not paying for ESPN right now,
Speaker 1: so he has to sign up for the pay per view.
Speaker 1: So I guess that's two people. Two people have now
Speaker 1: signed up to ESPN that would not have otherwise. And
Speaker 1: actually I talked last night Craig as well. He also
Speaker 1: was not thrilled with the thirty bucks, so he also
Speaker 1: would not have signed up for ESPN Unlimited without WWE.
Speaker 1: So I guess the question is how many other people
Speaker 1: are are like us? And I guess what deals like?
Speaker 1: What's financial deals are they going to make when, for example,
Speaker 1: YouTube TV adds this, I mean, is the cost of
Speaker 1: YouTube TV gonna go up again to make you know,
Speaker 1: to make up for this? I guess we'll find out.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm dropping YouTube TV actually because of this new bundle.
Speaker 3: I have ESPN and Fox one, which has nothing on it.
Speaker 1: Where's your Turkish oil wrestling?
Speaker 8: Air?
Speaker 1: Just on YouTube? In my dreams, baby back in a
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Speaker 2: You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike Simpervivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: By the show, Bryan Elbarez here, Wrestling Observer Live. Filthy
Speaker 1: Tom is here and Tom it is your floor. The
Speaker 1: floor is yours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, I appreciate you throwing me on the spot.
Speaker 1: I whole commercial break listen. I can do it if
Speaker 1: you want to. But like I do what Vinnie I
Speaker 1: do with Dave. Everyone's sick of my voice. I got
Speaker 1: to give you something for you have to be so
Speaker 1: crabby all the time. We're supposed to be like co
Speaker 1: hosts and friends.
Speaker 2: No we're not.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do this.
Speaker 3: We had the NXT, the big NXT homecoming show which
Speaker 3: they have been building for week and week now back
Speaker 3: here at full sail. A ton of big names announced
Speaker 3: for the show. Riha, Ripley, Johnny Gargano, Champa, Charlotte Flair,
Speaker 3: Alexa Bliss, Tyler Breeze of all people from the past,
Speaker 3: and the very first person that we get into full
Speaker 3: sale is the man who brought the Black and Gold
Speaker 3: brand to us. It's Triple H. He talks about how
Speaker 3: awesome NXT has been, the great superstars that have come through,
Speaker 3: and then he brings out HBK, his longtime friend, the
Speaker 3: man that he passed the reins of NXT down to,
Speaker 3: and then they talk for a little bit. They talk
Speaker 3: about how great NXT was, how great it has become,
Speaker 3: how great of a job Sean has done. And then
Speaker 3: Triple H says, well, you know what, what if I
Speaker 3: want to come back? And HBK gets in his face
Speaker 3: and lets him know, well, then we would have a
Speaker 3: very very big problem. Suddenly we get the return the
Speaker 3: entrance of former authority figure in NXT, William Regal. He
Speaker 3: comes out, He looks at these two gentlemen and he says, oh,
Speaker 3: war game.
Speaker 1: Actually, that's not what happened. Well, he came out, fans
Speaker 1: yelled war games, and so he yelled at him and
Speaker 1: he goes, can you edit that off? And then he
Speaker 1: said his thing like when this first happened, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're actually gonna do like a Hunter
Speaker 1: team versus a Sean team for like NXT war games.
Speaker 1: By the time this was over, I was like, this
Speaker 1: was a goofy comedy segment to waste fifteen minutes at
Speaker 1: the start of the show.
Speaker 3: That was it. You don't think they're doing anything.
Speaker 1: No, I think I think there's something else coming that
Speaker 1: we'll get to.
Speaker 3: Well, it could be a war game.
Speaker 1: I think this was just something silly to bring back
Speaker 1: Hunter and Sean and Regal and this is what they
Speaker 1: came up with. Could be wrong. That's what I got
Speaker 1: out of it.
Speaker 3: We then had coming down for the main roster. Both
Speaker 3: of these women, former big Stars, former champions on the
Speaker 3: NXT brand, now the women's tag champs, Charlotte Flair and
Speaker 3: Alexa Bliss. They defended the titles against the Cullings is
Speaker 3: He Dame and Tatum Pasley. Uh. They they had a match.
Speaker 3: I mean there was no angle, nothing. They had a
Speaker 3: match back and forth and Alexa Blissity's sister Abigail covered
Speaker 3: Tatum Packsley and they got to win.
Speaker 1: This is a pretty good match.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I was surprised there was no
Speaker 3: angle or anything. I seem like perhaps I don't know
Speaker 3: if they're they're setting up uh backstage still soul Ruka
Speaker 3: and Zaria for a title shot. Maybe because they were
Speaker 3: backstage bickering arguing with each other. Incomes Laney Reid Candice Lay.
Speaker 3: They argue about who's gonna win the Speed title, and
Speaker 3: then Shana Basler walks in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had two people on the show that are
Speaker 1: not under contract with the WWE in any way, Shana
Speaker 1: Basler and Tyler Breeze.
Speaker 3: And Shana Bezler came in and she said, look, you
Speaker 3: two should stick together, stay as a team, and you'll
Speaker 3: still be able to have single success. And then both
Speaker 3: women agreed, and I was like, good, I hope that's
Speaker 3: what happens. I hope they don't break it up.
Speaker 1: You and me.
Speaker 3: We were not going to have success together or independently.
Speaker 1: They had someone else's brain or someone else's hip truck.
Speaker 3: Williams and Carmelo Hayes to go on, Tomaso Chompa and
Speaker 3: Johnny Gargano. Uh, Tomaso Chompa came out like he.
Speaker 1: Was Darth maulsed to be. It was supposed to be
Speaker 1: black and gold face paint for the old NXT.
Speaker 3: Well it was Yeah, but I don't remember him doing
Speaker 3: it before. Okay.
Speaker 1: Sometimes on a special day, you put paint on your face.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Uh, they had a match. There were some points where
Speaker 3: it looked like Trick and Carmelo, we're gonna have a disagreement,
Speaker 3: much like you and I. However, in the end that
Speaker 3: did not happen. Instead, the Miz ran out as Di
Speaker 3: I Y had this match of control. It didn't go
Speaker 3: Miss ran out hit a skull crushing finale on Johnny Gargano.
Speaker 3: Hayes came back in with the nothing button, neet, and
Speaker 3: they got the wins.
Speaker 1: Weren't you telling me that mis was a babyface? No,
Speaker 1: he's not.
Speaker 3: I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: Whoever that was, He's not.
Speaker 3: No one said that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody you.
Speaker 3: Are keep saying Carmelo Hayes is a.
Speaker 1: Baby Carmela Hayes is the babyface. And his team and
Speaker 1: you or somebody else, we're like, no, I think Miz
Speaker 1: is actually the baby face.
Speaker 3: He's always Yes, you are correct, you are correct, he
Speaker 3: is not. He is not a face overall, But he's
Speaker 3: the one trying to save trying to save him from
Speaker 3: doing that move off the top.
Speaker 1: Come on, what was actually interesting about this match is
Speaker 1: technically every single solitary person in the match is a heel,
Speaker 1: but every single person in the match also worked as
Speaker 1: a babyface at some point during this match, except the
Speaker 1: one guy you say is a babyface. Miss was the
Speaker 1: only heel.
Speaker 3: As a match where you had the newer era of
Speaker 3: NXT defeat the old era kind of in a symbolic match.
Speaker 3: I liked it.
Speaker 1: It was good. It was a good match. They were
Speaker 1: all good matches on the show.
Speaker 3: Sammy Zay put over Javon Evans in the back, Josh
Speaker 3: Briggs came in. They argued Evans came in wanted to
Speaker 3: brawl with Briggs, but Zan stopped them, gave them a
Speaker 3: pep talk.
Speaker 1: Just nine more years, brother, you'll get there.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, how old is Javon Evans.
Speaker 1: Twenty one or twenty or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got plenty of time.
Speaker 1: You're idiots.
Speaker 3: God, Ethan Page, why strike when the iron's hot?
Speaker 1: That's that's the question that they often ask themselves.
Speaker 3: Ethan Page to got Tyler Breeze for the NXT North
Speaker 3: America title.
Speaker 1: Brother, I gotta give this Tyler Breeze credit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Tyler Breeze some credit had Booker T
Speaker 3: ever heard of this guy?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he was an idiot. But they did a
Speaker 1: video at the beginning of the show, going back to
Speaker 1: the beginning of NXT, and you've got like Roman Reigns
Speaker 1: and seth Rawlins and Sammy Zay and just like everybody
Speaker 1: that's gone through. And it's amazing watching the video because
Speaker 1: some of these people look so much older now. Some
Speaker 1: of these people somehow look exactly the same. And Tyler
Speaker 1: Breese is one of those guys who not only looks
Speaker 1: exactly the same as when he was in NXT before,
Speaker 1: but this guy works like he has been there NonStop.
Speaker 7: Up.
Speaker 1: He was so good in this match, and Ethan Page
Speaker 1: is is great and this was like an astonishingly good
Speaker 1: match that these two guys had.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tyler Breeze, I was. I was upset watching it
Speaker 3: because Booker T didn't know his offense. So he hits
Speaker 3: the beauty shot, which should be, you know, the biggest
Speaker 3: near fall of the match, and it was just nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Booker's like guys never won a singles title?
Speaker 1: What does that say about him? Like, way to put
Speaker 1: the guy over.
Speaker 3: Brother, So uh, Page caught him on the top rope
Speaker 3: hit the twisted grin from the ropes and got the
Speaker 3: three count very good match. Then he argued with Triple
Speaker 3: A Latin American Champion. Heho Dell Doctor Wagner Junior.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: After the match, Damian Priest was backstage given Olympic wrestler
Speaker 3: Tavion Heights a pep talk pumping him up, and he's
Speaker 3: secured Heights a title match against Ethan Page for next
Speaker 3: week at Noble.
Speaker 1: I should freaking hope. So he beat the guy in
Speaker 1: the middle of the ring a week ago.
Speaker 3: No, he didn't. Well, he beat him in the corner
Speaker 3: of the ring when the flag, which I mean, really
Speaker 3: should that get you a title shot? You grabbed a flag.
Speaker 3: Grayson Waller effect with Ricky Saints and Oba Femi. Uh.
Speaker 3: He went back and forth and then.
Speaker 1: Let's cut to the chase here. So the story is
Speaker 1: Ricky and Oba are going back and forth and Trick
Speaker 1: comes out and they're all arguing, and suddenly Grayson says,
Speaker 1: I have talked to I'm going to talk to Avian Santino.
Speaker 1: Next week. It is Trick versus Oba Femi Champion versus
Speaker 1: champion title versus title winner takes all and the winner
Speaker 1: faces Ricky Saints at no Mercy, and I.
Speaker 3: Said, what seems a bit rushed?
Speaker 1: What Well, it was until about five minutes later when
Speaker 1: the announcers start talking about how everybody in TNA is upset.
Speaker 1: They start putting up tweet after tweet after tweet after tweet. Dude,
Speaker 1: this match next week is ending in a schmas when
Speaker 1: we have the TNA invasion and I think we're actually
Speaker 1: gonna get TNA versus NXT war games as opposed to
Speaker 1: Hunter's Crew versus Shawn's crew. That's what I got out
Speaker 1: of the show.
Speaker 3: That would be my guess as well after watching it.
Speaker 3: Charlie Dempsey he's gone to Japan for a month. Bobby
Speaker 3: Rude showed up to no applause.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it wasn't no applause. They first said
Speaker 1: they muted the crowd, and so this guy walks in
Speaker 1: and he looks around listening to the audience, but we
Speaker 1: just hit a dead silence. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was the most awkward moment of the year.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and then Joe Henry came in Bobby demp
Speaker 3: he told Rensa Claire, don't do anything stupid that I
Speaker 3: wouldn't do.
Speaker 1: While I'm gone, Bobby, Charlie Depsy.
Speaker 3: Charlie Depsey, Sorry, Bobby Depty's from like a Ring of
Speaker 3: Honor twenty years ago? Is he going to Noah?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I presume okay, Lexus King got a promo, Finn Baler
Speaker 3: came out, Miles Bourne attacked King. God, Finn Bowler stopped him.
Speaker 1: Dude. This was one of those classic moments where they
Speaker 1: bring out Finn Balor and he's doing his old babyface gimmick.
Speaker 1: He's got his old babyface music, he's doing the thing,
Speaker 1: and the crowd's putting there. I mean, they're freaking going
Speaker 1: wild for this guy. He came off as like a
Speaker 1: ten times bigger star on this show that he does
Speaker 1: on Raw. He stuck the landing on Lexus King with
Speaker 1: his double foot stomp, like oh my god, and then
Speaker 1: like it's just back to normal now.
Speaker 3: And then in the main event we had any big return,
Speaker 3: well there wasn't Dark State promo real quick, I want
Speaker 3: to mintion it.
Speaker 1: But guy was gonna say something, but they cut him
Speaker 1: off and hustled him out, so they haven't dropped that
Speaker 1: he's an idiot gimmick, which is certainly gonna do them favors.
Speaker 1: But then yes, we have the main event.
Speaker 3: The all star team of Stephanie vaquer Lyra Valkyria and
Speaker 3: Rhea Ripley taking on Fatal Influence. I like this match.
Speaker 3: I thought it hit all the points that it needed to.
Speaker 3: I like Fatal Influences act. I've got a feeling that,
Speaker 3: based on the finish and how they've been doing things
Speaker 3: Lolavice is gonna knock out Jacy Jaye and win that title,
Speaker 3: much like she did here. She had the spinning backfist,
Speaker 3: knocked Lacy Jacy Jane into the ring. She's got a win.
Speaker 1: No, no, I've heard that with so many guys. No man, dude,
Speaker 1: and dude. She was responsible for Rhea getting the win
Speaker 1: over the champion here in this match. That never bodes well.
Speaker 1: They're beaten her. That's the whole NXT gimmick. We build
Speaker 1: people up and then beat them. I hope they prove
Speaker 1: me wrong.
Speaker 3: I think she's winning. I think it's time for them
Speaker 3: to switch the belt off JC, but fine, prove it
Speaker 3: to me. I am a big fan of Fatal Influence.
Speaker 3: I do not want to see them break up. I
Speaker 3: hope that after JC loses his belt, they go on
Speaker 3: a house of torture like run across the woman's.
Speaker 1: Devasation and teasing breaking up for like a year. Now
Speaker 1: they're up there with Grayson Waller in theory. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I have no faith. Lola absolutely, one hundred percent should win.
Speaker 1: Her father should be there. He should strap that belt
Speaker 1: around her waist and go wild. They're gonna beat her
Speaker 1: back in a moment.
Speaker 2: Observer Life, you are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with
Speaker 2: Brian Alvarez and Mike simperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: So I'd a smart enough Tom. During the break, there's
Speaker 1: an NXT next Tuesday with the double title match Obafemi
Speaker 1: and Trick Williams with all the belts on the line.
Speaker 1: Candace versus Laney Reid and Lexus King and Miles Bourne
Speaker 1: in a light sound match. The big show is No
Speaker 1: Mercy which is a pl that weekend, so we have
Speaker 1: t and a Victory Road on Friday and No Mercy
Speaker 1: on Saturday. That's the Obafemi or Trick Williams versus Ricky
Speaker 1: Saints match for the NXT title. JC and Lola, Ethan
Speaker 1: and Tavion and soul Ruka against either Candace or Laney
Speaker 1: got it for now?
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I will need clarification once again tomorrow and
Speaker 3: then next week as well.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, looking at this victory Road Moose versus
Speaker 1: MUSBALLI sounds awesome them, but they somehow also have ash
Speaker 1: By Elegance versus Masha Slaviovich with Indy Hartwell as a
Speaker 1: special guest referee. At least she's not wrestling. I guess
Speaker 1: she's she's hit or miss. So anyway, that's that, and
Speaker 1: then uh, I guess tomorrow, Tom, will we be talking
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I could do it September remember three hours at
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have to get going on to remember.
Speaker 3: Early mystery announcement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's coming up tomorrow. Everybody, Thank you all,
Speaker 1: even you Tom. I'll see you in an hour after
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