WEBVTT - Homecoming Recap and The Double Pay Per View Weekend

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<v Speaker 1>know that means we got a lot to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night was NXT Homecoming. We'll have a full recap

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<v Speaker 1>on the show today. Tonight is aw See. Remember it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a three hour block and it looks like we've

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<v Speaker 1>got eleven segments announced for the show, which has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a world record, I think for any individual episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Dynamite. They are letting you know what's on the

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<v Speaker 1>show tonight, So we'll see how it does in the ratings.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll go over the full lineup for the show and

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<v Speaker 1>where everything is going heading to the double pay per

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<v Speaker 1>view weekend. We've got aw All Out which is taking

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<v Speaker 1>place during the day on Saturday, and we have a

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Palooza which is taking place during the night. And

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you wondering the weekend coverage looks to

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<v Speaker 1>be Vinnie and I will be watching All Out live.

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<v Speaker 1>We will do a post show immediately afterwards. I will

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<v Speaker 1>then do a show later in the evening with Dave

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<v Speaker 1>talking All Out and Russell Palooza, and then Sunday's Bryan

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<v Speaker 1>of any show, we'll cover Wressel Palooza. We'll get Vinie's

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<v Speaker 1>and Craig's thoughts on that. So a lot of coverage

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<v Speaker 1>of all of these shows coming up this weekend. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>preview everything here and then we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>news regarding Wressell Palooza ESPN. They did some media calls.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a lot of fun to go over

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<v Speaker 1>some of those, so we'll do that and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then as noted, we'll talk about some other news notes

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<v Speaker 1>and then the NXT Homecoming review, which was quite the

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<v Speaker 1>Back on the show, Brian Alvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live Filthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Lawler is joining.

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<v Speaker 3>Us here today, what's up, Skipper?

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently tomorrow as well because our old buddy Orange

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<v Speaker 1>Crush is going to be on the show. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about, Tom.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing that includes a lot of art.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're a fan. It's a secret actually on tomorrow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there actually is a secret, but that'll be tomorrow. So

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<v Speaker 1>tonight is September to remember, a three hour block of

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<v Speaker 1>aw programming and eleven segments. Eleven segments announced for this show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it might be busy tomorrow three hours again, ye ahi,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Corumba, Well, you know you can always fast forward through

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<v Speaker 1>commercials and cut about twenty minutes off the show. I

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<v Speaker 1>found he realized the other day. Dave actually told me

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<v Speaker 1>that they normally announced lots of things in advance. He

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<v Speaker 1>actually said that to me. I think he can't just

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<v Speaker 1>help but argue, this is the most that has been

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<v Speaker 1>announced for a Dynamite shown advance. I think of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, dating back to twenty twenty, this at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>With eleven matches announced for Dynamite in advance, what they do.

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<v Speaker 3>You even have eleven matches in three hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's eleven segments, but the actually most of these

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<v Speaker 1>are matches. We have three all out tag title match qualifiers,

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<v Speaker 1>Young Bucks versus The Gun Club, Lucasaurs and Kip Saban

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<v Speaker 1>versus Jet Speed top Flight versus Josh Alexander and Etchi Sero.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those matches should be good, if not great.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Tekla versus Queen Amanada, which scares the bejezus

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<v Speaker 1>of me because they had a match once and and

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<v Speaker 1>Queen Amanada I think tried to kill her and now

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing a no holds barred match. We have got

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<v Speaker 1>an all out unified title match qualifier. The winner of

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<v Speaker 1>this match will be in the three way with uh

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<v Speaker 1>Tekeushta and Okada, and it's the Beast Mortas versus Mascarriderata.

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<v Speaker 1>The Beast Mortos is booked elsewhere on Saturday. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want spoilers, I just ruined it for you. But

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<v Speaker 1>who knows, maybe something crazy will happen. Bobby Lashley will

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<v Speaker 1>face Total Leona, which is very much like Tecla versus

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<v Speaker 1>Queen Aminada, but in a different way because these guys

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<v Speaker 1>had a brawl on the show last Wednesday, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and Bobby Lashley didn't sell one thing for Total Leona,

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<v Speaker 1>not one thing. Now they're gonna have a match together,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's gonna be exciting. John Moxley versus Roderick Strong,

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<v Speaker 1>Hangman Page and Kyle Fletcher have a contract signing. There's

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<v Speaker 1>an FTR face to face with Copeland and Christian, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a Tony Storm feature, and there's Rijo versus Robin Renegade

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<v Speaker 1>all tonight on September to Remember.

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<v Speaker 3>For aw, you almost forgot September to Remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I didn't almost forget. I got a text message

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<v Speaker 1>like I always do, right in the middle of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to recap something which throws me off my game. I

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<v Speaker 1>should just shut all of this down, but sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>something important. So anyway, that's the line up here tonight. Excited.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm gonna watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, dude, it's three hours of wrestling.

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<v Speaker 3>We got three hours of wrestling almost every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>We only had two hours last night on that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>SmackDown's back to two. You should be happy about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Although this weekend, I'll bet we have nine hours of

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling because.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, all Out starts for good, because it never ends,

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<v Speaker 3>because it never ends my entire life, whether I want

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<v Speaker 3>it or not, whether I can't escape it, every single

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<v Speaker 3>freaking weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hours and hours.

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<v Speaker 3>And this weekend it's all something. It's all wrestling because

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<v Speaker 3>it's Wressell Palooza and aew.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this weekend's gonna be silly because Wrestle Palooza and

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<v Speaker 1>All Out were originally head to head and then Tony

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<v Speaker 1>moved All Out to twelve Pacific three Eastern. But the

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<v Speaker 1>last time this happened, the last time they did this,

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<v Speaker 1>he deliberately ran like the longest show of all time

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<v Speaker 1>to try to bleed into the wrestle. So it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>gonna probably be even longer because you know, instead of

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<v Speaker 1>going head to head, we're just gonna go really long

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<v Speaker 1>and end up head to head at the end, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we got Russell Palooza, which is on whatever it's on.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the problem with that is that I'm sorry, but

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<v Speaker 3>the proto Star versus Hangman doesn't have quite the same

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<v Speaker 3>juice that they had last time they went head to head,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I do know what you mean, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger issue is that some people are still stuck

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<v Speaker 1>with this idea that you don't have a choice, you

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<v Speaker 1>must choose only one or the other. And it's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you please make sure that I have to do

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<v Speaker 3>that choice?

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<v Speaker 1>I literally force me to. Please, Dude, Name one show

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<v Speaker 1>I've wanted to watch, not one I wanted to go to,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's triple a. Name one show that I've wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to watch that I didn't because of a timing issue

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<v Speaker 1>or a head to head or whatever. It's twenty twenty five, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to watch a show, you're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>watch the show. It doesn't matter if it's head to

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<v Speaker 1>head with another show. It doesn't matter if it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same day as another show. It doesn't matter which show's

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<v Speaker 1>going first or last. You're gonna watch the shows you

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch. That's it. So, I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty eight, where you know your cable provider is

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<v Speaker 1>either gonna give you a Survivor series or I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like that anymore. Well, we can all watch everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you also may not want to watch everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know what, the stuff there's college football going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you're right, but you know what, what's my point?

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to watch one of them, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>watch it, right. Are you gonna miss your Turkish oil

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling if you want to watch it?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, Actually there was like five tournaments this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't watch any of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you didn't want to watch it because I was

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<v Speaker 1>I had to watch wrestling. If you would want to

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<v Speaker 1>watch that Turkish oil wrestling, you would have watched it,

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<v Speaker 1>or you would have found the match you wanted to see.

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<v Speaker 1>If there was Turkish oil wrestling in the Armor, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>have watched it.

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<v Speaker 3>The season is over, the Energy League season is over,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're just doing tournaments now for the fun of it. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so there's less stakes much like this aew all out show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty big lineup compared.

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<v Speaker 3>To the last the one in England that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that was literally their biggest show of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Hangman versus Kyle Fletcher aw title. We got

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<v Speaker 1>Copin and Christian against FTR, Mercedes against Rijo for the

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<v Speaker 1>TBS title, Okada Takeshta and whoever wins that match tonight

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<v Speaker 1>in a three way Broddo against the three winners of

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<v Speaker 1>the three matches tonight in a ladder match.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, so it's hold on, Yes, we back up,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Mascara Dorata. Isn't that match tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Okay, Yeah, he's gonna win, So it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>Derata Takeshta and Okada unified title. Three man, we got Hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>Cindy Kid versus Ricochet and Gates of Agony, six Man,

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<v Speaker 1>Moxley and Darby in a coffin match, Tony Storm against Tekla,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Hayter and Chris stat Lanner in a four way

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<v Speaker 1>for the women's title, MGF versus Mark Risco, Tables and

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<v Speaker 1>Tax Match and Eddie Kingston against Big Bill is your

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<v Speaker 1>lineup for all Out? And then Russell Palooza has Sena

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<v Speaker 1>and Lesner, Cody and Drew for the w WE title.

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<v Speaker 1>Eo versus Stephanie for the World title, the Women's title,

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<v Speaker 1>Siam Punk and aj levers is Seth and Becky, which

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<v Speaker 1>really is the biggest match on the show. And Braun

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<v Speaker 1>and Braun versus USSO and USO to might be the

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<v Speaker 1>first time ever we've had a match like that. Braun

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<v Speaker 1>and Braun versus USO and USO. So there you go,

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<v Speaker 1>big weekend. What are you gonna What are you gonna watch? First?

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<v Speaker 3>Turkish oil wrestling idiots?

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<v Speaker 1>Any of these shows sound more exciting than the other time.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was forced to choose, I'd watch Russell Paluza Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think it's the more noteworthy, newsworthy of the

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<v Speaker 3>two shows. If I was watching it for action, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be almost always aw.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we probably have had Hardy and Hardy versus

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<v Speaker 1>USO and USO. It must have happened before.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this isn't two people with the same last name.

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<v Speaker 3>It's two people with the same first name. It's true,

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<v Speaker 3>two people with the same last name.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. So that has never happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it may have.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of anything, because Vince never would allow

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<v Speaker 1>to people with the same name and even be in

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<v Speaker 1>the company at the same time. Right, figured out everybody

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<v Speaker 1>back in a moment Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike simper Vivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, what card is this?

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<v Speaker 3>What on Planet Earth?

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<v Speaker 1>Second?

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<v Speaker 3>For a minute, I have no absolutely no clue what

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<v Speaker 3>happened with Brian here, but during the break, some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of calamity has overtaken him. I suppose we could look

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<v Speaker 3>at a little bit of the news before we get

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<v Speaker 3>into NXT. Here in a moment, if there is any news. Ah,

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<v Speaker 3>here we go from the front page of The Wrestling

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<v Speaker 3>Observer cm Punk. Having aj Lee back in WW is

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<v Speaker 3>like a dream come true. He's having the time of

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<v Speaker 3>his life. Punk told part in my take when I

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<v Speaker 3>asked about his wife's return. Oh, right, like the uber

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<v Speaker 3>nerdiest wife guy. I always like to say, I try

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<v Speaker 3>to spend as much time with my wife as I can.

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<v Speaker 3>I spend a lot of time with her. It never

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<v Speaker 3>feels like it's enough. So having her back in this

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<v Speaker 3>environment with me. What are you talking about is like

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<v Speaker 3>a dream come true. I'm talking about the biggest angle

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<v Speaker 3>on raw talking about some comments from cmpunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's very happy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's about the return of his wife. Oh, j Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what I was doing during the break is do

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<v Speaker 1>you know how to get this new YESPN thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I have it, so it depends on so.

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<v Speaker 1>You already signed up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well I hadn't when I went to ESPN and

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<v Speaker 1>they right in the upper left it's it's sign up.

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<v Speaker 1>Click here to sign up?

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<v Speaker 3>What all right? To listen to you and Dave argue

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth and have no clue what either one

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<v Speaker 3>of you were talking about the other night you did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a thirty dollars bundle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just that's why I was doing during the break.

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<v Speaker 3>Has Disney and Hulu along with ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's what I was doing during the break. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I had you take over because it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes last four digits and I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>card it was talking about, so I find whatever card

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<v Speaker 1>it was on. But yes, I now have ESPN, Unlimited,

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<v Speaker 1>Disney and Hulu Plus Live TV, all of these, so

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I am ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you have Hulu Plus Live TV.

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<v Speaker 1>No I did. I got the bundle or I got

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<v Speaker 1>Hulu whatever you go.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a big difference between those two.

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<v Speaker 1>Well what do I get with this?

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<v Speaker 3>Just Hulu with probably Futurama or something. Who the heck noes?

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<v Speaker 1>I got a bundle. So do I have Hulu?

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<v Speaker 3>Now you have? Yes, you have Hulu, but you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have Hulu Live.

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<v Speaker 1>I see Okay, this is really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>This is really no. It's not that confusing, just not

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<v Speaker 3>that hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, what's the difference between Hulu and Hulu plus

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<v Speaker 1>Live TV.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them has live pell of one is just

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<v Speaker 3>old shows. So I do have the old shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, some people like to watch stuff because

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<v Speaker 3>if you're gonna watch something, you're gonna watch it anyways.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, it doesn't matter if it's live, if you

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<v Speaker 3>really want to watch it, You're correct, You're gonna watch

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<v Speaker 3>it later.

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<v Speaker 1>You're correct. I forgot you were one of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that argue that they should have moved the star time.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about that. Oh well, hey, uh, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna test something out here as well, because there

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<v Speaker 1>was a media call, an ESPN media call, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN Plus Senior Vice President J. T. Lasker and VP

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<v Speaker 1>of Programming and Acquisitions Matt kenny Or asked if those

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<v Speaker 1>who report on wrestling will have quote full independence in

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<v Speaker 1>how they do so, he said, I think the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to that is an emphatic yes, an unequivocal yes. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a separation of church and state, and we have some

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<v Speaker 1>pr folks on the call that can underscore that. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're saying they don't care what you say. If

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<v Speaker 1>they don't care how you report on WWE, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>care you have full independence and how we report on WWE.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't paying attention. I was watching people argue in

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<v Speaker 3>the chat they are we have full independence reporting on them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You and me?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you talking about the YouTube chat?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What were they arguing about?

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<v Speaker 3>Anything?

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN and how to watch it and if it's plus

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<v Speaker 1>or unlimited or E. It's gonna be a disaster Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's gonna be like. It's gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six when I couldn't find the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. Yep, but I already found this ESPN thing,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm good to go. The rest of you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna feel how I felt when they aired that

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame on three feet call whatever it was

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<v Speaker 1>on back, and that I still don't even know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know how we were supposed to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame back in two thousand and six. It's

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<v Speaker 1>still a mystery.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe at ww New York you could have popped in

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<v Speaker 3>and watched it.

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<v Speaker 1>So now in addition to all of this, they claim

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<v Speaker 1>they were asked about Russell Balooza running against All Out,

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<v Speaker 1>and they claimed that competition had nothing to do with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a coincidence whether they are running head to

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<v Speaker 1>head or they were running head to head until Tony

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<v Speaker 1>moved with All Out. This fella. Matt Kenny here said

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<v Speaker 1>they will work collaboratively with w on the schedule, and

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, many of WWE's events have already been

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled for the year. He said. Traditionally, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing over there?

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<v Speaker 3>Moderating?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Traditionally ESPN would work with a partners part

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<v Speaker 1>of a lengthy process in scheduling dates, working together on

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<v Speaker 1>a calendar. He said. The pls were not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>start until April of twenty twenty six, and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until WWE negotiated with NBCU and Peacock to get out

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<v Speaker 1>early that ESPN was able to move the timetable up.

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<v Speaker 1>And once they did, dang it, they wanted something big

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<v Speaker 1>in September. It just happened to be the same day

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<v Speaker 1>as aw all Out. So I will say this, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're telling the truth and going forward there will

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<v Speaker 1>not be head to head battle because WWE did want

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<v Speaker 1>to go head to head with Aw's World's End and

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<v Speaker 1>an ESPN they were like, Nope, not happening, can't have

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<v Speaker 1>that day. So you know, all of these other head

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<v Speaker 1>to heads prior had always been with Peacock. So I'm very,

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<v Speaker 1>very skeptical that we will never see a head to

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<v Speaker 1>head battle again. I don't believe it for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>But perhaps they're telling the truth and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>last time and any other time it happens in the

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<v Speaker 1>future will surely be merely a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we are going to have a head to head

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<v Speaker 3>battle at the beginning of October, but that is TV. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not by the WWE's doings. By aw Right. Well

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<v Speaker 3>they they they're moved because of sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, they happen to be head to head with NXT.

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<v Speaker 1>So some other notes, they said that WWE retains creative,

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<v Speaker 1>which really I'm not surprised ESPN is not booking WWE.

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<v Speaker 1>They said Russell Palooza will be part of the ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>multiview option, which will allow fans to watch action alongside

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<v Speaker 1>other ESPN live sports programming. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>watch like fifty things at the same time. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that. I don't know what this is

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<v Speaker 1>about because I watch sports. They're continuing to work with

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<v Speaker 1>various cable streaming providers that ESPN airs on in order

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<v Speaker 1>to give those subscribers access to ESPN unlimited. They say

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<v Speaker 1>that by the turn of the calendar year, the vast

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<v Speaker 1>majority of their existing ESPN subscriber base will have access

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<v Speaker 1>to the service, with the ultimate goal being to turn

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority into all so, he says, ads of

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<v Speaker 1>now deals with providers like Exfinity comcasts and YouTube have

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<v Speaker 1>not been completed. Well, if you have DirecTV, Fubo, Spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>Hulu Live, and Verizon FiOS, you do, He says. They

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing to do with the content archive, only the plees,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see where those go when the Peacock deal

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<v Speaker 1>is out. The third questions about a Baseball Tonight live

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<v Speaker 1>coverage WWE coverage show, Well, I'm sure they'll have full

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, he said that. Ask what metrics they

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<v Speaker 1>are using to determine whether this relationship is a success.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he couldn't share target numbers, but they want

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<v Speaker 1>to grow ESPN's overall audience and attract new subscribers.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, well, I mean he's got a point there.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I would assume that most of the ww fans, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean maybe what you don't watch sports, right, I listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I have watched for a while. They got one guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So Vinnie watches sports? Does Craig watch sports?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Craig watches sports. I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 1>of them subscribed to ESPN Unlimited though, that's the question.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a brand new thing, so it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a mood point.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the point is would they have subscribed to it? Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I can tell you for a fact because

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<v Speaker 1>Vinnie didn't even know he had to pay thirty bucks

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<v Speaker 1>a month. So Vinnie is not paying for ESPN right now,

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<v Speaker 1>so he has to sign up for the pay per view.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess that's two people. Two people have now

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<v Speaker 1>signed up to ESPN that would not have otherwise. And

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<v Speaker 1>actually I talked last night Craig as well. He also

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<v Speaker 1>was not thrilled with the thirty bucks, so he also

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<v Speaker 1>would not have signed up for ESPN Unlimited without WWE.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess the question is how many other people

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<v Speaker 1>are are like us? And I guess what deals like?

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<v Speaker 1>What's financial deals are they going to make when, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube TV adds this, I mean, is the cost of

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube TV gonna go up again to make you know,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 3>We had the NXT, the big NXT homecoming show which

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<v Speaker 3>they have been building for week and week now back

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<v Speaker 3>here at full sail. A ton of big names announced

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<v Speaker 3>for the show. Riha, Ripley, Johnny Gargano, Champa, Charlotte Flair,

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<v Speaker 3>Alexa Bliss, Tyler Breeze of all people from the past,

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<v Speaker 3>and the very first person that we get into full

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<v Speaker 3>sale is the man who brought the Black and Gold

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<v Speaker 3>brand to us. It's Triple H. He talks about how

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<v Speaker 3>awesome NXT has been, the great superstars that have come through,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he brings out HBK, his longtime friend, the

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 3>man that he passed the reins of NXT down to,

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>and then they talk for a little bit. They talk

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<v Speaker 3>about how great NXT was, how great it has become,

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<v Speaker 3>how great of a job Sean has done. And then

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<v Speaker 3>Triple H says, well, you know what, what if I

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<v Speaker 3>want to come back? And HBK gets in his face

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<v Speaker 3>and lets him know, well, then we would have a

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<v Speaker 3>very very big problem. Suddenly we get the return the

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<v Speaker 3>entrance of former authority figure in NXT, William Regal. He

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<v Speaker 3>comes out, He looks at these two gentlemen and he says, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>war game.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, that's not what happened. Well, he came out, fans

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<v Speaker 1>yelled war games, and so he yelled at him and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, can you edit that off? And then he

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<v Speaker 1>said his thing like when this first happened, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, they're actually gonna do like a Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>team versus a Sean team for like NXT war games.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time this was over, I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>was a goofy comedy segment to waste fifteen minutes at

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>That was it. You don't think they're doing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think I think there's something else coming that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it could be a war game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this was just something silly to bring back

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter and Sean and Regal and this is what they

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<v Speaker 1>came up with. Could be wrong. That's what I got

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<v Speaker 1>out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>We then had coming down for the main roster. Both

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 3>of these women, former big Stars, former champions on the

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<v Speaker 3>NXT brand, now the women's tag champs, Charlotte Flair and

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<v Speaker 3>Alexa Bliss. They defended the titles against the Cullings is

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<v Speaker 3>He Dame and Tatum Pasley. Uh. They they had a match.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there was no angle, nothing. They had a

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<v Speaker 3>match back and forth and Alexa Blissity's sister Abigail covered

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<v Speaker 3>Tatum Packsley and they got to win.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a pretty good match.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean I was surprised there was no

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<v Speaker 3>angle or anything. I seem like perhaps I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if they're they're setting up uh backstage still soul Ruka

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<v Speaker 3>and Zaria for a title shot. Maybe because they were

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<v Speaker 3>backstage bickering arguing with each other. Incomes Laney Reid Candice Lay.

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<v Speaker 3>They argue about who's gonna win the Speed title, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Shana Basler walks in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they had two people on the show that are

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<v Speaker 1>not under contract with the WWE in any way, Shana

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<v Speaker 1>Basler and Tyler Breeze.

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<v Speaker 3>And Shana Bezler came in and she said, look, you

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<v Speaker 3>two should stick together, stay as a team, and you'll

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<v Speaker 3>still be able to have single success. And then both

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 3>women agreed, and I was like, good, I hope that's

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<v Speaker 3>what happens. I hope they don't break it up.

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<v Speaker 1>You and me.

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<v Speaker 3>We were not going to have success together or independently.

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<v Speaker 1>They had someone else's brain or someone else's hip truck.

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<v Speaker 3>Williams and Carmelo Hayes to go on, Tomaso Chompa and

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Johnny Gargano. Uh, Tomaso Chompa came out like he.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Darth maulsed to be. It was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>black and gold face paint for the old NXT.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it was Yeah, but I don't remember him doing

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<v Speaker 3>it before. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes on a special day, you put paint on your face.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, they had a match. There were some points where

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<v Speaker 3>it looked like Trick and Carmelo, we're gonna have a disagreement,

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 3>much like you and I. However, in the end that

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<v Speaker 3>did not happen. Instead, the Miz ran out as Di

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<v Speaker 3>I Y had this match of control. It didn't go

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<v Speaker 3>Miss ran out hit a skull crushing finale on Johnny Gargano.

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<v Speaker 3>Hayes came back in with the nothing button, neet, and

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<v Speaker 3>they got the wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Weren't you telling me that mis was a babyface? No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever that was, He's not.

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<v Speaker 3>No one said that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, somebody you.

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<v Speaker 3>Are keep saying Carmelo Hayes is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby Carmela Hayes is the babyface. And his team and

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you or somebody else, we're like, no, I think Miz

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<v Speaker 1>is actually the baby face.

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<v Speaker 3>He's always Yes, you are correct, you are correct, he

0:36:56.239 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 3>is not. He is not a face overall, But he's

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 3>the one trying to save trying to save him from

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 3>doing that move off the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, what was actually interesting about this match is

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>technically every single solitary person in the match is a heel,

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>but every single person in the match also worked as

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<v Speaker 1>a babyface at some point during this match, except the

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 1>one guy you say is a babyface. Miss was the

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>only heel.

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<v Speaker 3>As a match where you had the newer era of

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:33.240
<v Speaker 3>NXT defeat the old era kind of in a symbolic match.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked it.

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>It was good. It was a good match. They were

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>all good matches on the show.

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Sammy Zay put over Javon Evans in the back, Josh

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Briggs came in. They argued Evans came in wanted to

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 3>brawl with Briggs, but Zan stopped them, gave them a

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 3>pep talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Just nine more years, brother, you'll get there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, how old is Javon Evans.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty one or twenty or something.

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's got plenty of time.

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<v Speaker 1>You're idiots.

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:10.399
<v Speaker 3>God, Ethan Page, why strike when the iron's hot?

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the question that they often ask themselves.

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Ethan Page to got Tyler Breeze for the NXT North

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 3>America title.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother, I gotta give this Tyler Breeze credit.

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Tyler Breeze some credit had Booker T

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 3>ever heard of this guy?

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, he was an idiot. But they did a

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>video at the beginning of the show, going back to

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of NXT, and you've got like Roman Reigns

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and seth Rawlins and Sammy Zay and just like everybody

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that's gone through. And it's amazing watching the video because

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>some of these people look so much older now. Some

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>of these people somehow look exactly the same. And Tyler

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Breese is one of those guys who not only looks

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:56.280
<v Speaker 1>exactly the same as when he was in NXT before,

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>but this guy works like he has been there NonStop.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 7>Up.

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>He was so good in this match, and Ethan Page

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>is is great and this was like an astonishingly good

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>match that these two guys had.

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Tyler Breeze, I was. I was upset watching it

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 3>because Booker T didn't know his offense. So he hits

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 3>the beauty shot, which should be, you know, the biggest

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:25.280
<v Speaker 3>near fall of the match, and it was just nothing.

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then Booker's like guys never won a singles title?

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 1>What does that say about him? Like, way to put

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the guy over.

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Brother, So uh, Page caught him on the top rope

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 3>hit the twisted grin from the ropes and got the

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 3>three count very good match. Then he argued with Triple

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 3>A Latin American Champion. Heho Dell Doctor Wagner Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 3>After the match, Damian Priest was backstage given Olympic wrestler

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 3>Tavion Heights a pep talk pumping him up, and he's

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 3>secured Heights a title match against Ethan Page for next

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<v Speaker 3>week at Noble.

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<v Speaker 1>I should freaking hope. So he beat the guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the ring a week ago.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he didn't. Well, he beat him in the corner

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<v Speaker 3>of the ring when the flag, which I mean, really

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<v Speaker 3>should that get you a title shot? You grabbed a flag.

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<v Speaker 3>Grayson Waller effect with Ricky Saints and Oba Femi. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>He went back and forth and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's cut to the chase here. So the story is

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky and Oba are going back and forth and Trick

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<v Speaker 1>comes out and they're all arguing, and suddenly Grayson says,

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<v Speaker 1>I have talked to I'm going to talk to Avian Santino.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week. It is Trick versus Oba Femi Champion versus

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<v Speaker 1>champion title versus title winner takes all and the winner

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<v Speaker 1>faces Ricky Saints at no Mercy, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, what seems a bit rushed?

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<v Speaker 1>What Well, it was until about five minutes later when

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<v Speaker 1>the announcers start talking about how everybody in TNA is upset.

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<v Speaker 1>They start putting up tweet after tweet after tweet after tweet. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>this match next week is ending in a schmas when

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<v Speaker 1>we have the TNA invasion and I think we're actually

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get TNA versus NXT war games as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter's Crew versus Shawn's crew. That's what I got out

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<v Speaker 1>of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be my guess as well after watching it.

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie Dempsey he's gone to Japan for a month. Bobby

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<v Speaker 3>Rude showed up to no applause.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it wasn't no applause. They first said

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<v Speaker 1>they muted the crowd, and so this guy walks in

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<v Speaker 1>and he looks around listening to the audience, but we

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<v Speaker 1>just hit a dead silence. I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the most awkward moment of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and then Joe Henry came in Bobby demp

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<v Speaker 3>he told Rensa Claire, don't do anything stupid that I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>While I'm gone, Bobby, Charlie Depsy.

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie Depsey, Sorry, Bobby Depty's from like a Ring of

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<v Speaker 3>Honor twenty years ago? Is he going to Noah?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I presume okay, Lexus King got a promo, Finn Baler

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<v Speaker 3>came out, Miles Bourne attacked King. God, Finn Bowler stopped him.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude. This was one of those classic moments where they

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<v Speaker 1>bring out Finn Balor and he's doing his old babyface gimmick.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got his old babyface music, he's doing the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and the crowd's putting there. I mean, they're freaking going

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<v Speaker 1>wild for this guy. He came off as like a

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<v Speaker 1>ten times bigger star on this show that he does

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<v Speaker 1>on Raw. He stuck the landing on Lexus King with

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<v Speaker 1>his double foot stomp, like oh my god, and then

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just back to normal now.

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<v Speaker 3>And then in the main event we had any big return,

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<v Speaker 3>well there wasn't Dark State promo real quick, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to mintion it.

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<v Speaker 1>But guy was gonna say something, but they cut him

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<v Speaker 1>off and hustled him out, so they haven't dropped that

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<v Speaker 1>he's an idiot gimmick, which is certainly gonna do them favors.

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<v Speaker 1>But then yes, we have the main event.

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<v Speaker 3>The all star team of Stephanie vaquer Lyra Valkyria and

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<v Speaker 3>Rhea Ripley taking on Fatal Influence. I like this match.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it hit all the points that it needed to.

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<v Speaker 3>I like Fatal Influences act. I've got a feeling that,

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<v Speaker 3>based on the finish and how they've been doing things

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Lolavice is gonna knock out Jacy Jaye and win that title,

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<v Speaker 3>much like she did here. She had the spinning backfist,

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<v Speaker 3>knocked Lacy Jacy Jane into the ring. She's got a win.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I've heard that with so many guys. No man, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and dude. She was responsible for Rhea getting the win

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<v Speaker 1>over the champion here in this match. That never bodes well.

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<v Speaker 1>They're beaten her. That's the whole NXT gimmick. We build

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<v Speaker 1>people up and then beat them. I hope they prove

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's winning. I think it's time for them

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<v Speaker 3>to switch the belt off JC, but fine, prove it

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<v Speaker 3>to me. I am a big fan of Fatal Influence.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not want to see them break up. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope that after JC loses his belt, they go on

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<v Speaker 3>a house of torture like run across the woman's.

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<v Speaker 1>Devasation and teasing breaking up for like a year. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they're up there with Grayson Waller in theory. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no faith. Lola absolutely, one hundred percent should win.

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Her father should be there. He should strap that belt

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<v Speaker 1>around her waist and go wild. They're gonna beat her

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<v Speaker 1>back in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd a smart enough Tom. During the break, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an NXT next Tuesday with the double title match Obafemi

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and Trick Williams with all the belts on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Candace versus Laney Reid and Lexus King and Miles Bourne

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<v Speaker 1>in a light sound match. The big show is No

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<v Speaker 1>Mercy which is a pl that weekend, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>t and a Victory Road on Friday and No Mercy

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday. That's the Obafemi or Trick Williams versus Ricky

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<v Speaker 1>Saints match for the NXT title. JC and Lola, Ethan

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<v Speaker 1>and Tavion and soul Ruka against either Candace or Laney

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<v Speaker 1>got it for now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, I will need clarification once again tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 3>then next week as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, looking at this victory Road Moose versus

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 1>MUSBALLI sounds awesome them, but they somehow also have ash

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<v Speaker 1>By Elegance versus Masha Slaviovich with Indy Hartwell as a

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<v Speaker 1>special guest referee. At least she's not wrestling. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's hit or miss. So anyway, that's that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then uh, I guess tomorrow, Tom, will we be talking

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<v Speaker 1>September to remember are you gonna run now one tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I could do it September remember three hours at

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<v Speaker 3>ae W Comanatcha along with a special guests I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll have to get going on to remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Early mystery announcement.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's coming up tomorrow. Everybody, Thank you all,

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<v Speaker 1>even you Tom. I'll see you in an hour after

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