WEBVTT - THE LAST SOVIET - EP 8: A Common Goal

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<v Speaker 1>As y'all already know, going from Orlando, Florida to Star

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<v Speaker 1>City in Russia in the early two thousands was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a shock. The gray buildings, the summer mosquitoes,

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<v Speaker 1>no air conditioning, the endless bowls of soup. Sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>all became too much. I longed for just a few

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<v Speaker 1>hours with my family, my friends, my dogs. And then

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<v Speaker 1>one day I arrived at this house in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of Star City. I walked down some steps and opened

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<v Speaker 1>the door, and I cannot believe my eyes. Right there

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of Russia is an old time American

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<v Speaker 1>dive bar. There's a jukebox, whiskey, Chris Hadfield on the guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole shebaine. I am in heaven. I'm doing shots,

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<v Speaker 1>shooting the shit, and I begin wondering, how on earth

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<v Speaker 1>did I end up in an American bar with NASA

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<v Speaker 1>astronauts and a walled off Russian military town in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of a forest. May it just start and lived

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<v Speaker 1>on the launch of a rocket's carrying the first stage

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<v Speaker 1>of the International Space Station. In this final episode, we

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<v Speaker 1>tell the story of how the Americans and Russians overcame

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<v Speaker 1>seventy years of Cold War within six years. The station

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<v Speaker 1>will be a virtual village in the sky with people

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<v Speaker 1>living and working in space to build humanity's most expensive

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<v Speaker 1>and ambitious piece of real estate. All these nations are

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<v Speaker 1>coming together the utilized technology not to blow up humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>And how I nearly got to go. And this twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three year old Southern boy wants to be more than

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<v Speaker 1>a pop star. He wants to be among the stars.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's one step closer to achieving that drive. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Lance bass And from Kaleidoscope and iHeart and Exile Media.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the last Soviet The collapse of the USSR

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety one changed the world. One political scientist called

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<v Speaker 1>it the end of history. Is Francis Fukuyala argue that

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<v Speaker 1>the end of communism might presage what he called the

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<v Speaker 1>end of history, the end of history. The great ideological

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<v Speaker 1>battles between East and West, between communism and capitalism, were over,

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<v Speaker 1>or so the story goes in space. The end of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cold War was a massive opportunity for America to

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<v Speaker 1>finally catch up with their old enemy and to create

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<v Speaker 1>a symbol for a new era of peace and cooperation.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety three, Russia joined the United States and

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<v Speaker 1>its international partners in the largest cooperative space exploration effort

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<v Speaker 1>in history. In September nineteen ninety three, American Russia announced

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<v Speaker 1>to the world that they were going to build a

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<v Speaker 1>space station together, an international space station. By joining our efforts,

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<v Speaker 1>we are able to create a whole that is greater

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<v Speaker 1>than the sum of its parts. I was in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all recognize we were seeing something of

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<v Speaker 1>history racle significance in the idea that the former Cold

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<v Speaker 1>War advert series were going to pledge to try to

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<v Speaker 1>work together. That's John Lockston, Professor of Space policy at

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington University. Wasn't a done deal yet. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of obstacles that had to be negotiated out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way, and we got the brand trust of

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that had ever worked with the Russians to help

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<v Speaker 1>promote us. Ken Wrtler again, the guy from the last

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<v Speaker 1>episode who helped Sarage choose his breakfast cereal. Ken knew

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<v Speaker 1>that if this mad idea was going to work, he

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<v Speaker 1>need one thing, and the first request that I made

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<v Speaker 1>was to have Sergey work for me. Sarage had returned

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<v Speaker 1>from his flight with NASA and was now back home

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<v Speaker 1>in Russia. Welcome home Discovery, Prekrasnage. You've paved the way

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<v Speaker 1>for a new era of cooperation in human space flight

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<v Speaker 1>leading to our International space station. Great job. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sway on the Russian program. He understood

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<v Speaker 1>how to build space stations, which we didn't. He knew

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<v Speaker 1>more about space stations than maybe all of NASA put together.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd spent almost an entire year on one. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy you wanted for this job. We would work

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<v Speaker 1>together on every aspect. Ken in Houston and Sarageate and Moscow.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of language where we were going to speak?

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of clock were we going to work on

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<v Speaker 1>Moscow time or we're going to work on Houston time?

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<v Speaker 1>Or what kind of food would we eat? Chicken with

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<v Speaker 1>prunes or burgers? But it wasn't just the dinner menu

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<v Speaker 1>that needed to be hashed out. They needed to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how they were going to build the damn thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is not just another better space station. What

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<v Speaker 1>they had in mind would be four times the size

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<v Speaker 1>of mirror the Soviet space station. It would be the

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<v Speaker 1>size of an entire football pitch, and it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a group project made of thousands and thousands of parts,

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<v Speaker 1>some made by Russia, some by America, and they would

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<v Speaker 1>all have to fit perfectly and be assembled in space.

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<v Speaker 1>When the whistle blew orbiting hard hats, Jerry Ross and

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Newman got right to work, becoming the first car

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<v Speaker 1>carrying members of the Union of International Space Station Workers,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the next two years it grew peace by

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<v Speaker 1>peace into a six bedroom house weighing about three and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty cars. They passed over a brilliant lightning storm over Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even see it because they were so engrossed in

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<v Speaker 1>their work. With more than fifty computers and eight miles

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<v Speaker 1>of cable to make the thing run. A triumph of

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<v Speaker 1>diplomacy and engineering, the International Space Station is the largest

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<v Speaker 1>ever peaceful technological cooperation, and in two thousand, at the

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<v Speaker 1>turn of the New century, the International Space was ready

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<v Speaker 1>to receive its first ever crew. The first crew of

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<v Speaker 1>the International Space Station arrived at their new home for

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<v Speaker 1>the next four months. From the American side, Bill Shepherd,

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<v Speaker 1>and from the Russian side Urigzenko and Seragei Krecolatation Commander

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<v Speaker 1>NASA's Bill Shephard announced he would allow his Russian crewmatee

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<v Speaker 1>Ury Genzenko to float over the threshold. First, their task

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<v Speaker 1>was to bring the station to life. They have trained

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<v Speaker 1>for a long list of chores, activating computers, life support

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<v Speaker 1>systems and the toilet, and repairing some failed Russian batteries.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that they have arrived, the hard work of making

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<v Speaker 1>their place in space ship shape begins. Since then, it

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<v Speaker 1>has been constantly occupied by astronauts the world over. The

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<v Speaker 1>first Japanese astronaut to live aboard the International Space Station,

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<v Speaker 1>German astronaut will be responsible for conducting about forty experiments.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty three year old Swedish physicist has already visited the

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<v Speaker 1>iss as for real and tim floated aboard the first

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<v Speaker 1>British astra on the space station. It is a remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>technical and political achievement to create this facility as a

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<v Speaker 1>partnership now among fifteen countries and have it operate now

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty three years, in the face of changing political relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly between the United States and Russia. This magical place

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<v Speaker 1>is where I was training to go to learning Russian,

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<v Speaker 1>spending hours in flight simulators, until one day it all

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<v Speaker 1>went wrong. The insynct pop Star's dreams of going to

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<v Speaker 1>space have been crushed today as funding for his trip

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<v Speaker 1>has been thrown into question. When I went to Moscow

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and two, it was two years after

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<v Speaker 1>Sarage Cricleff had kick started the International Space Station into gears,

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<v Speaker 1>two years after Putin took power in Russia. Today, the

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<v Speaker 1>clear winner of the Russian presidential election of Vladimir Putin

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<v Speaker 1>began to establish the Putin Era, the street shootings, law

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<v Speaker 1>and disorder in the USSA, professors hawking pies in the metro.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what I can do. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to go back to the train station and

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<v Speaker 1>spend the night there. The wild nineties they were over.

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<v Speaker 1>The Moscow I arrived in was shiny with optimism, riding

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<v Speaker 1>high on the oil price boom and its promise of

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<v Speaker 1>prosperity and stability. IKEA had opened its first store. Putin

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<v Speaker 1>was hugging Tony Blair and Bono and Davos. We have

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<v Speaker 1>co operation today that would have been really unthinkable just

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<v Speaker 1>a short time. Again, First, I'd like to congratulate President

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<v Speaker 1>Putin for being the only person that caught a fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Today there were in sync CDs in the shops, fancy

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail bars, Broadway type musicals of a sudden great wealth

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<v Speaker 1>was in reach of a happy few. Wealth became fashionable

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<v Speaker 1>bees with the new Russians, Russians with money, and just

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder about why I was there in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>CBS wanted to do a reality TV show where contestants

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<v Speaker 1>train as cosmonauts in Star City and the winner gets

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<v Speaker 1>to actually go to space. Well, they wanted the host

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<v Speaker 1>of the show that was going to be me to

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<v Speaker 1>have gone to space as well. This is the pioneering stage,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't know where it's going to go,

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<v Speaker 1>but eventually everyone should and we'll have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>travel into space. So in two thousand and two, I

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<v Speaker 1>put my life on pause and started the six month training,

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<v Speaker 1>and I took it really seriously. I knew a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the people there thought I was just some dumb

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<v Speaker 1>pop star, and I get that, but I was determined

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<v Speaker 1>to prove them wrong. So after training for the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I spend most evenings watching the Russian version of Sesame

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<v Speaker 1>Street to pick up some Russian words, pouring over space manuals,

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<v Speaker 1>doing pushups. Slowly, I was getting there, and then one

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<v Speaker 1>day I get called in for a meeting with a

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<v Speaker 1>Russian big dog from the Space Agency and he says, look, Lance,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to leave Star City. I'm like, what, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell are you talking about? He told me to

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<v Speaker 1>pack up my gear and leave. That very day. I

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<v Speaker 1>left from Moscow confused, trying to find out what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck happened. Lance believes very much that he will fly

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<v Speaker 1>and we hope to have discussions in the next couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days. It turned out the TV networks in Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't reached a deal with the Russian Space Agency. There

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<v Speaker 1>were problems with a contract. This was a very strong

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<v Speaker 1>message from our Russian colleagues saying, hey, time is running out.

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<v Speaker 1>Bottom line is everyone had bailed on me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was learning this only now there was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>no reality TV show, no going to space, nothing. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a dark moment in my life. I worked so

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<v Speaker 1>hard and suddenly it was all pulled away from me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was crushed, but I was also pissed at my

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<v Speaker 1>agents at the TV networks. I was here in good

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<v Speaker 1>faith training to be a cosmonaut, putting my ass on

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<v Speaker 1>the line every single day, doing my part, and they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem to care. So yeah, I was feeling pretty

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<v Speaker 1>desperate alone in a Moscow hotel room But then the

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<v Speaker 1>Russians reached out to me. They said, there is another

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<v Speaker 1>way for you to complete your training, but it'll cost

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<v Speaker 1>you one million dollars out of your own pocket. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>one million. I know it sounds crazy, but I coughed

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<v Speaker 1>it up. Okay, I wasn't going to space, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would have that certificate. I would finish what I'd come

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<v Speaker 1>here to do. So I went back to Star City

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<v Speaker 1>for a few weeks and I finished the training on

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<v Speaker 1>my dime for my own satisfaction. So today I can

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<v Speaker 1>proudly say I am a certified cosmonaut, and I still

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<v Speaker 1>hope to go back to Russia one day and finally

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<v Speaker 1>fly to space, even though now that dream seems further

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<v Speaker 1>and further away. All Right, our top story today, Russia

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<v Speaker 1>has launched its invasion of Ukraine. Vladimir Putin has just

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<v Speaker 1>addressed the Russian people a moment ago, announcing what Putin

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<v Speaker 1>called the start of a military special operation. Vladimia Putin

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<v Speaker 1>is calling this a quote special military operation to protect

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<v Speaker 1>on Bass. This morning, the International Space Station in political

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<v Speaker 1>crosshairs as Russia retaliates against American sanctions. The head of

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian Space Agency Dmitry Vergosen posting this video on

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<v Speaker 1>social media threatening to abandon American astronaut Mark van de

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<v Speaker 1>High at the station. He's supposed to return home on

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<v Speaker 1>a Russian ship in just three weeks. In February twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, Putin upended the world order and space became

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<v Speaker 1>a battleground once again. When Russian invaded Ukraine in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, it felt like the three decades of relative

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<v Speaker 1>cooperation between American Russia had been a blip, and the

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<v Speaker 1>International Space Station they operate together became a target. Russia's

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<v Speaker 1>war is putting years of collaboration at risk and the

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<v Speaker 1>astronauts in the situation they did not ask for. Soon

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<v Speaker 1>after the invasion and a series of wild tweets, the

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<v Speaker 1>then head of the Russian Space Agency, a man called Regosan,

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<v Speaker 1>actually threatened to crash the International Space Station into Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Regosan also making an ominous threat that without Russian help

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<v Speaker 1>to move the ISS away from space junk, the ISS

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<v Speaker 1>would crash into America or other countries. Then he said

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<v Speaker 1>Russia would no longer sell rocket engines to the US.

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<v Speaker 1>On TV, he said, in a situation like this, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't supply the United States with our world's best rocket engine.

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<v Speaker 1>Let them fly on something else. They're broomsticks. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what he traded insults with NASA astronauts Scott Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>sparred with Elon Musk overnight SpaceX firing back as it

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<v Speaker 1>launched its Falcon rocket carrying satellites to orbit. Time to

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<v Speaker 1>let the American broomsticks fly. It was all a bit unhinged.

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<v Speaker 1>In autumn last year, an American and Russian crew arrived

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<v Speaker 1>at the International Space Station, and one day, as they

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<v Speaker 1>were preparing to go for a spacewalk, they discovered a

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<v Speaker 1>leak in their capsule. Russian flight controllers and the flight

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<v Speaker 1>controllers here Admission control in Houston had been noticing a

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<v Speaker 1>stream of particles coming out of the sous MS twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two vehicle. A small meteorite had probably hid it a

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<v Speaker 1>micro meteoroid, a tiny space rock, just one millimeter across,

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<v Speaker 1>but flying fifteen thousand miles per hour, And now there

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<v Speaker 1>was a big problem. Temperatures inside the cabin could climb

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<v Speaker 1>above one hundred degrees during a return flight, potentially overheating

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<v Speaker 1>flight computers, and meant that they couldn't get back to

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<v Speaker 1>Earth as planned. Russian space officials determined the damage craft

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<v Speaker 1>is unsafe to fly, essentially stranding its crew. They were stuck,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I record this, they're still up there doing repairs,

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<v Speaker 1>gazing down at the chaos below, wondering when they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to finally come home. Sounds familiar, right for the astronauts

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in space right now. Things might be hard. They're

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<v Speaker 1>losing muscles, their bones are getting weaker. They're probably sick

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<v Speaker 1>of peeing into a funnel, and of course they miss

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<v Speaker 1>their families and the comforts of home. But more than that,

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<v Speaker 1>the political situation is worrying. The station their own is

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<v Speaker 1>manned by Russia and America, who are not being friendly

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<v Speaker 1>with each other right now. There are growing tensions between

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<v Speaker 1>the US and Russia following the downing of an American

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<v Speaker 1>drone earlier. Russian President Vladimir Putin says this country will

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<v Speaker 1>now station tactical nuclear weapons right on NATO's doorstep. This

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<v Speaker 1>trip to Moscow also sends a strong message to Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>as tensions between both countries and the US remain high.

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<v Speaker 1>But these astronauts, they have a secret weapon, someone on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground who knows exactly what they're going through. Sarage

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<v Speaker 1>Cricklif is the guy planning their rescue, always there, always dependable,

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<v Speaker 1>totally dedicated to the dream of space. This man who

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<v Speaker 1>watched as his country collapsed two hundred and fifty miles

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<v Speaker 1>below him. I bade the chaos of street clashes. It

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<v Speaker 1>was obvious to reinforce that position, the hardliners would have

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<v Speaker 1>to resort to violence, And today is trying to keep

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<v Speaker 1>above the fray, above the chaos and the politics, to

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<v Speaker 1>bring both American and Russian astronauts back home. Good evening, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome here to the launch pad and our live launch coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>Soyus MS twenty three launching from the Biken Or Cosmodrome

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<v Speaker 1>in Kazakhstan, launching up to the International Space Station for

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<v Speaker 1>a ross Cosmos rescue mission, replacing the leaky soy Use

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<v Speaker 1>spacecraft up at the International Space Station. When I think

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<v Speaker 1>about Saragei's story, it gives me hope, because I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that space can be a utopia, a place where the

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<v Speaker 1>impossible happens, where a chemist from the Mars bar factory

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<v Speaker 1>ends up going to Russia to be a cosmonaut for

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians. It was another small step, but from Miss

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<v Speaker 1>Shaman and her British backup team. It had been a

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<v Speaker 1>giant plea where a woman from suburban Australia becomes friends

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<v Speaker 1>with Soviets floating in space. So I am such a

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<v Speaker 1>happy person. I have been waiting two years to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you where a Vietnam war vet flies with his

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<v Speaker 1>former communist enemy. We were both the same way. We

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a peaceful world. We wanted a world in which

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<v Speaker 1>people work together collaboratively for the good of humankind. A

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<v Speaker 1>place that brings people together, where you see things as

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<v Speaker 1>never before. Oh my God, look at that picture over

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<v Speaker 1>there on a truly cosmic mind expanding scale. A good night,

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<v Speaker 1>and God Boy, follow you, all of you on the garth.

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<v Speaker 1>This dream of space is something Serage experienced in his bones.

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<v Speaker 1>As he wrote to his friend Maggie from space, the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth is like a map, but in contrast to a map,

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<v Speaker 1>there are no borders seen. It is pleasant when there

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<v Speaker 1>are fewer borders. People can rub shoulders, be friends, travel

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<v Speaker 1>freely among each other, and get to know one another more.

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<v Speaker 1>If rigid borders between neighboring people appear, then that will

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<v Speaker 1>be bad. This is what space can do. It allows

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<v Speaker 1>us to see our planet for what it is and

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<v Speaker 1>all its complexity to see the Earth the human race

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<v Speaker 1>as one whole. But for all that, in order to

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<v Speaker 1>understand everything and get used to it, it is necessary

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<v Speaker 1>to return and plunge into this life, and then to

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<v Speaker 1>come back and build something new out of the ashes

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<v Speaker 1>of the old world and the colors unbelievably useful and

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<v Speaker 1>electric blue. Thanks Crunch Cards, Lord for the last time

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<v Speaker 1>comes to an end to our International Space Station. Great job.

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<v Speaker 1>Reality The Last Soviet is a Kaleidoscope production in partnership

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