1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome due the battle Ground Podcast. This 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: is a podcast all about professional wrestling. Join Battle and 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Eli as a breakdown what's going on in the world 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: of professional wrestling with special guests, including some of your 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: favorite wrestling superstars. You never know who's gonna stop by 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: now making their. 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Way to the microphone. Get up for the. 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Greatest podcast team in the world, Battle and Eli. 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: All right, so welcome to a bonus feature episode of 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: I Am your host Battle along with my awesome co 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: host Eli. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: What's up? 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: So we had to do this. We talked about a 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: lot of stuff yesterday on the podcast, so I will 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: go ahead and just tell you guys, we did record 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: this morning's podcast yesterday before Helen to Cell and then 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: after last night's Helena, Cell, me and Eli were going 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: back and forth and we're like, we have to do 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: an episode just to kind of clear the air and 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: voice our concerns about how horrible last night's pay per 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: view ended. 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: Right Unfortunately, I mean, overall, it wasn't a terrible pay 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: per view. It wasn't great by any means. But I 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. I'm still almost twenty four 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: hours later, I'm still speechless. I just don't I don't 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: even know where to start. 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: And I think that's the way a lot of people 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: were about last night's payer view, because I mean, it 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: wasn't too terribly bad. We kind of figured that Charlotte 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: was gonna win the title because they're, like we've talked 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: about before, and like you've mentioned, you're trying to give 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: Charlotte these like quick title reigns so she can kind 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: of like surpass her dad and his title reigns. And 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: then you know, what was it, Bronze Strowman. He didn't 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: really have much of anything, right, No, no, no, no, Bronz 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Stroman came out and he was like in a mystery 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: partner with the war Viking Team Raider or whatever they are, 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: and that was stupid. All in all, it wasn't that 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: great of a pay per view. Nothing really stood out 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: other than the ending of the match, and of course, 41 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: you know, scrolling through you know, social media last night, 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: like people were hissed, Like a lot of people like 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: I was okay with the match being in red because 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: I get the whole being in hell kind of thing, 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: but you know, if somebody's paying in the sitting in 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: the three hundred level, they're probably not going to be 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: able to see because those red lights. 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I text you when it happened, and 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. So yeah, 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: I would definitely not be happy if I was there, 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: but you. 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, and of course, you know, the match was 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: the match itself. I kind of came in halfway through 54 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: the match because I was in the other part of 55 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: my house playing Madden because I just really did not 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: care about Hell in a Cell if that tells you anything. 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 3: But you know, the match was pretty good. There was 58 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: there was some strong parts in the match, and then 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: you know, Bray looked good the entrance. I had to 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: go back and watch it, and his entrance was good. 61 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: And you know, it seems like kind of in this 62 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: match that Bray was more the baby face than Seth was, 63 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: because like in the match, Seth like hit him with 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: a kindow stick or whatever, and Bray stopped it and 65 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: took the kindow stick and threw it out, and it 66 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: just seemed like because Bray was so over with the crowd, 67 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: it made me think to myself that in this match, 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: Bray wasn't the hill, he was the baby face and 69 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: Seth was the hill. 70 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it reminded me of kind of what 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: happened with Becky Lynch. You know, when when she turned 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: on Charlotte, They're like, okay, well here here goes this 73 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: few do you know, Charlotte will be the good guy 74 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: and Becky'd be the bad guy. But I mean the 75 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: crowd got behind her, and you know, she's had one 76 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: of the biggest turnarounds in ww history. And I think 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: the same thing with Bray. Why it is, he's never 78 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: really been a true you know, heel in the traditional 79 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: sum people have always liked him and cheered him on. 80 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: So you know, with the Fiend taken over this summer 81 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: and just growing viral and you know, right now, that's 82 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: probably the most interesting character they have any brand, and 83 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: you know, they're the only thing I really can say 84 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: is they have done a good job of, you know, 85 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: keeping him a mystery and he's not on the show 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: every single week and YadA, YadA, YadA, So it's adding 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: a little bit of more of a mystery to it. 88 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: But you know, regardless of how they justify it, this 89 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: is the second year in a row that the Hell 90 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: and So Match has been like a false finish because Braun, 91 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: Strowman and Roman had theirs last year, and you know 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: he Braun was cashing in his money in the bank 93 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: contract and then there's the crap with Brock's Lesner and 94 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. So you know, everyone was ready for 95 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: Braun to get the belt, and not only did he not, 96 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: he's also one of the few that didn't get to 97 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: cash in successfully. So again we've already talked about him. 98 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: They've ruined bron Strowman, and I have a gut feeling 99 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: that this is the beginning of them ruining Bray Wyatt. 100 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, and watching the match that was, you know, 101 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: Bray kind of right there towards the end was like 102 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: slaughtering Seth and I think what was it? There was 103 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: twelve Seth hit him with twelve curb stomps. 104 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: I think was that. 105 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it was like curbs dump and 106 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: all this other stuff. And then it was weird because 107 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: I think it was, like I said, I kind of 108 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: missed the first part, but I think the people on 109 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: the internet were saying that Michael Cole kept reiterating about 110 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: no disqualification and blah blah blah, and like Seth snapped 111 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: and right there at the end. He had him under 112 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: like a broken table and a letter and a chair 113 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: and threw tools on him and blah blah blah, and 114 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: then he brought a sledgehammer out hit him with the sledgehammer, 115 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: and then they rang the bell and I was like, Okay, 116 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: let's go back to helen a Cell where Undertaker threw 117 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: Mick Foley off the top of the cage. No bell 118 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: ring there. Let's go back to him coming back from 119 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: you know, from medical treatment, climbing up to the top, 120 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: getting thrown through the top of the cage. No bell 121 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: ring there. And they still finished the match. And it's like, 122 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: you end last night's helen a Cell as a no contest. 123 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: You end it with bray hitting you know, a mandible 124 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: claw seth is like spitting out blood. And WW did 125 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: not care one bit and they did not try to 126 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: drown out the booze the bullshit chance or the aew 127 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: chance now. 128 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: And after it went off there people were posting videos there. 129 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: The crowd was chanting refund, which is like the probably 130 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: the worst thing. You don't want that if they're chanting 131 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: sampunk or aw whatever, that's fine. They're just you know, 132 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: either not invested in this particular event, or they're just 133 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: being pricks. If they're shouting refund, you have a serious problem. 134 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, they're over it. They don't 135 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: want to give you money. You know, it's a whole 136 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: different thing. So there's just so many, so many questions. 137 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: You know, why would you book? Why would you lebra Wyatt? 138 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: No? 139 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: Sell all this offense if he's not going to win 140 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: the title? You know, that's usually a sign that you 141 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: know he's gonna win or something. You know, what do 142 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: you do with the Fiend now? You know? So so 143 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: five seconds after the thing's over, he's back up with 144 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: full force, full you know, like it's so stupid, like 145 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: and then you know, I read somebody who were like, oh, 146 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: well the Fiend doesn't need a belt, you know, he doesn't. 147 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: Then make it a non title match, Like why would 148 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: you even hint at him getting the belt? Especially because everyone, 149 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: you know, the kind of the general consensus is, you know, 150 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: Seth's kind of started to wear out his welcome and 151 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: you know, I think he's think people are just ready 152 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: to move on and do something else. And you have 153 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: arguably the hottest character you've had in five years. You know, 154 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: and it's almost like the WAWE. It's like shocked that 155 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: people are this way, and it's like, you know, you 156 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: have fucked bray Wyatt since the beginning, Like if he 157 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: was booked on a pay per review, you knew he 158 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: was going to lose. I mean, I mean his track 159 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: record for pay per views has been terrible. You know, 160 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: he's almost like russep Like if you know he's on 161 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: a card on a pay per view, he's not going 162 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: to win. 163 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: And this could have been the time to rectify that. 164 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: And you have a new start with a new character 165 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: and you still drop the ball. 166 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're and they're trying to and they're trying to, 167 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: you know, you skid over like, well, it wasn't a 168 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: DQ's a match stoppage because of blah blah blah. Like 169 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a DQ. You can call it 170 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. 171 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: You know, he for him to be on the stretcher 172 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: and get back up and hit the maniple clall, like 173 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: there was nothing exciting to go home about. Now. Granted, 174 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: tonight's rawl and we're you know, less than half an 175 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: hour away before that, but by the time that you're 176 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: probably listening to this it's probably already inter roll, so 177 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: if something could happen tonight, but you know, just ending 178 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: the show with Seth sitting there with all that blood 179 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 3: coming out of his mouth and then you know, the 180 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: light stop goes boom, there's you know, Bray on the 181 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: ramp with his laugh and the flashy lights, and then 182 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: you end, literally the show is a black screen and 183 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: you don't even drown out the booze and the aew chance. 184 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: You literally leave everybody that watched Helena South with a 185 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: w champs and booze right there as soon as the 186 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: show's over, then going into like Goldberg twenty four to seven. 187 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: Who cares whatever? 188 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they'll edit it out for 189 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: the network, but it was, Yeah, it was very noticeable 190 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: watching it last night. And I don't know, I mean, 191 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know, I really don't. I just 192 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: don't know what the You know, they they did this 193 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: whole Dog and Pony show at the beginning of the year, 194 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: and you know, we are our attention slipped and we're 195 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: giving this show back to the fans and you're the 196 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: boss and blah blah blah, and you know we talked 197 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: to when we had Kevin nash In. I mean, this 198 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: has arguably been the worst year of ww I've ever seen, 199 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: and it's. 200 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: Horrible and it's not a good thing now, especially when 201 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: you have so much competition. 202 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: And you know, it's just you build him up to be, 203 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: you know, practically into Druckt the ball and then you 204 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: in the match on bullshit. And then it's the same 205 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: thing with bron Stroman, Like, I mean, bron Stroman has 206 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: no credibility whatsoever. You know, like if he comes into 207 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: a match against Chad Gable, well, who knows Chad Gable 208 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: may win because bron Stroman is worthless. You know, he's 209 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: not this monster that he should be. He loses all 210 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: the big matches and you know, uh, I mean he's 211 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: he's I guess he's if you include the garbage WrestleMania 212 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: match where he won the tag titles. I mean he's 213 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: technically had the tag titles twice, once with the Kid 214 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: and once with Seth and other than that, he's had 215 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: zero titles in WWE. So you know, we've talked about it. 216 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: I mean, normal guys that are six eight three point fifty, 217 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: they're going to hold their own in most fights. So 218 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: the fact that he continues to lose to Brock and 219 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: Seth and run and just over and over and over. 220 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: I mean he's worthless. I mean, you've you've destroyed that character. 221 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: You might as well just start from the beginning and 222 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: have start building him up and have him squashing jobbers 223 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: and you know, see what happens in six months and 224 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: see if you can build that buzz back up. But 225 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: I mean, right now, it's worthless. And same thing with 226 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: Bray Wyatt. I mean they've just squandered what little you know, 227 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: if you want to call it magic or appeal or whatever. 228 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: I mean, they did it when he was when it 229 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 2: was the White family and all that, and then the 230 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 2: granted he did have the world title for like three months, 231 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: but it was considered an awful rain and then it 232 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: ended with that terrible match with Randy Orton with the 233 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: worms on the ring and all that crap. Just just 234 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: just very very able to do with him. Yeah, just garbage, 235 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: you know. So you know, I made a joke Thursday 236 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: or Friday and I said, well, I guess we'll just 237 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: kind of see how they ruined Bray Whatt, And sure 238 00:12:59,160 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: as shit they did. 239 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: And it's just the the wrestling fans, and especially now, 240 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: this is something you can't drop the ball on, especially 241 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: with AW running high momentum, especially you know pretty much 242 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: out playing and out viewership. You're NXT and possibly raw. 243 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: I mean the fact that AAW is still new and 244 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: people are chanting you know, AW at WWE events. Like 245 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: like I said earlier in the text message between me 246 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: and you, ae W is the new CM punk chant. 247 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: So if people don't get their way, it's gonna be 248 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: ae W channing throughout that entire arena, and there's gonna 249 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: be it's going to be pretty tough for WWE to 250 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: I guess silence those AW chants. But I think the 251 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: one thing that I saw on the internet, meaning you 252 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: kind of sent it to each other at the same time, 253 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: was that brassers who if you don't know what brawsers are, 254 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: ear must for it. People under the age of a team. 255 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: They make grown up pictures there, That's that's it. 256 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: They make grown up pictures and they sent out of 257 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: things saying, hey, WWE, let us know if you need 258 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: advice on how to craft logical and coherent storylines with 259 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: satisfying finishes, which is possibly the greatest thing in the world. 260 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I don't want to. I don't 261 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 2: want to totally rag on it, you know, like I do. 262 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,239 Speaker 2: Like for example, Becky and Sasha was awesome. You know, arguably, 263 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: looking back, I would have had that headline not only 264 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: because of the match they delivered, but also to off 265 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: set how shitty the actual main event was. So you know, 266 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that wasn't terrible. 267 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: Like the Nod Toda, Yeah, Kabuki Warriors the mist and 268 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: getting the titles, which the rumor is that they're about 269 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: to get rid of those. 270 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that one was pretty solid. I enjoyed that one 271 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: as well. The I thought the Chad Gable King Corbin 272 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: match was pretty good. I thought it was funny at 273 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: the end the ring announcer called it, said winner of 274 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: the match, Shorty Gable, like he actually caught him that. So, 275 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: you know, we've talked about it before. It looks like 276 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: Vince is a big fan of him. He kind of 277 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: reminds him of Daniel Bryan, that whole shorter, you know, 278 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: underdog kind of thing. I'm over the twenty four to 279 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: seven crap, Like every time it comes on, I turn 280 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: it like I'm just I'm done. I'm tired of seeing it. 281 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: You know, I thought the Charlotte Bailey match, it wasn't 282 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: the greatest match in the world, but you know, that 283 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: did make Charlotte a ten time champ. She's probably at 284 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: this point arguably the greatest female performer in ww history. 285 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure they keep giving her these title reigns. She's 286 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: gonna pass her dad and that'll add another thing to it. 287 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: But you know, ten time champs. I mean, I don't 288 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: even know if she's been on the main roster for 289 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: five years yet I think it's four. So it's it's 290 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: pretty impressive. So you know, all all around, it wasn't terrible, 291 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: but you know, unfortunately that ending was just so bad. 292 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: And I mean I let I was tagging WWE to 293 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: their face basically on Twitter, you know, I mean I 294 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: just I let it rip. And somebody commented about, well, 295 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how this ruins his character, and you know, 296 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: blah blah blah, like it's not the fact. You know, 297 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: at this point, I think he's so popular, you know, 298 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: I don't think I think he's going to remain popular 299 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: in spite of all this. But it was just the schematics, 300 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: it was. The match wasn't great, you know, he no 301 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: sold all this offense and then didn't win. The ending 302 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: was like a DQ even they're not calling it, and 303 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: then as soon as they put him on the stretcher, 304 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: he's back to one hundred percent. It makes no sense, 305 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: like no, just just across the board. It was horrible, 306 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: and I was actually surprised the CBS Sports, that's who 307 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: we look at a lot of times when we do these, 308 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: they gave that match a C plus is just super generous. 309 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: I mean I would give it a D minus or 310 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: an F. I mean it was not great all around. 311 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: So this is two years in a row, this this 312 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: pay per view has been garbage, and you know, it's 313 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: almost like it's almost like they don't need this to 314 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: be an event, like you can put a hell in 315 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: a celle match in WrestleMania or Survivors like. 316 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 3: A random view. 317 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: Right, it may be time to retire this one because 318 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: it's just this is two years in a row. It's 319 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: been awful. 320 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 3: It's just it's just hot garbage and a lot of 321 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: people kind of were you know, I think I saw 322 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 3: some videos that people started throwing stuff at Seth as 323 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: they were walking him back to the locker room area, 324 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: and it's just it's you know. 325 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: Seeing the old days, that would have been a double turn. 326 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: Like if this was ninety six, ninety eight, ninety two thousand, 327 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: I mean at that point they would have been like okay, 328 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: seth turn or something, you know what I mean, Like 329 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 2: they would have embraced it. But they're so tone deaf 330 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: right now, like it doesn't matter. You know, they have 331 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: their three guys, you know, and those are the guys 332 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: that are gonna be the top draws no matter what. 333 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: So whether you have Ruscef blowing up with rucef Day 334 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 2: or you have you know, again, we've talked about it. 335 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: I'm shocked the Kofi even got as far as he did. 336 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: I don't know how that happened. And looking back on it, 337 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: it's going to look more spectacular just because of their 338 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: track record with decisions and now this this has grown 339 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: very organically. Now luckily for Bray, this was a WWE thing, 340 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: so they are going to back at Rusff Day just 341 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: kind of happened organically, so they didn't push it because 342 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: it wasn't their idea, even though they made a shit 343 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: ton of money off of it. It's funny how that happens. 344 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: But you know, they this is a WWE creation, so 345 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: they are going to back it. But still, I mean, 346 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: he's not he's not one of the top three, so 347 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: it's just it's not gonna happen. So, you know, unfortunately, 348 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: I think this was a very dramatic, like you know, 349 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 2: taking the wind out of people's sales. But it's like 350 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 2: now you know, like you know for sure that what 351 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 2: they said in January was crap, and they don't give 352 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: a shit what you think, what you want, who you're 353 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: rooting for. If it's not their three guys, that's it. 354 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: No one cares. So you know, I did this last 355 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: year about this time. I've canceled my WWE network subscription. 356 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: I'm not watching Raw tonight, I'm not going to watch 357 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: smack Down this week. You know, it doesn't hurt them 358 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: very much, but you know, it makes me feel good. 359 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: So you know, that's really what it's going to take. 360 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: Is it's going to take something an event like this 361 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: happening and then them seeing a huge drop in subscribers 362 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: and then a huge drop in like you have to 363 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: hit them in the pocketbook. And if you continue to 364 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: go to the shows and you continue to watch rall 365 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: and you continue to tweet about it, and it's all 366 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: rainbows and butterflies. They're going to see nothing wrong. They 367 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 2: keep doing the same crap over and over and over 368 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: and over and over. So you know, I'm not saying 369 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: we're calling for a boycott, but I am not watching 370 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: the product anytime soon. 371 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 3: So I want to see how ratings are gonna tonight. 372 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: And of course i'll watch for all just to see 373 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 3: what's going on, which. 374 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: You can keep me questions and I'll keep you posted 375 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: on that. 376 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: But we just kind of wanted to jump on here 377 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: and kind of just get our thoughts of helling a 378 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: seale and let's just go ahead and be honest that 379 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: we're looking forward to Wednesday night. And I'm not talking 380 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 3: about an XT right, I'm talking about aid W. 381 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the Bucks sent out a thing either 382 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: I think last night. Oh by the way, we'll be 383 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: back Wednesday, and like it was like perfectly timed, you know. 384 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: But you know, I think the big takeaway for Helen 385 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: sales kudos to the women, I mean, Natalia and Lacy 386 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: Evans wasn't terrible. Obviously, Becky and Sasha was at the 387 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: match of the night. The women's tag team was solid. 388 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: Bailey and Charlotte was solid. So you know, this time 389 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: last year, they were doing Evolution, the women's pay per view, 390 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: and I would have much rather seen that part two 391 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: than this crap that we got, you know. I mean, 392 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: they were they were adding they were adding matches the 393 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: day of the show, like they're just I joked around 394 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 2: to somebody I work with and just like they just 395 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: throw crap against the wall and see what sticks, you know, Like, oh, 396 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: this starts in six hours, All right, let's throw. Let's throw. Yeah, 397 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: let's just do Chad Gable and Baron Corman again. Why 398 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: not they just we've seen them fight like seven times 399 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: in the last three weeks. Let's do it again, you know. So, 400 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: but kudos to the ladies. I mean, I think they 401 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: I think they're going to get overlooked because of all 402 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: this fallout unfortunately, but I mean I think they did 403 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 2: the best jobs last night. 404 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Side note, this is kind of something that I'm 405 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 3: just scrolling through. Apparently Bray White and Sasha Banks were 406 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 3: not medically cleared for tonight's raw, so. 407 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 2: All should be fun to watch. Well, that'll add even 408 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: more to it, because now not only did this ship happened, 409 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: but then now Brady's not going to be there, so 410 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: it's like, oh my god, I. 411 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 3: Get the draft coming out too on Friday. 412 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll have to You'll have to keep me posted 413 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: because I want to know how how much Seth gets 414 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: booed when he comes out, because it's going to be 415 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: deafening most definitely. 416 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: So, like I said, we want to kind of hop 417 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: on here, give you a little quick episode and give 418 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: our thoughts of Hell on the Seal, and then we'll 419 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: be back to your regular scheduled product. 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