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Speaker 1: How could someone burn this forest down?

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Speaker 2: Said the man holding the blow torch. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: this morning, kids. It is the Late Kick Extra podcast.

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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, July twenty seventh, year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate.

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Speaker 2: We do this audio only version about once a week,

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Speaker 2: and since there are tens of thousands of newbies around

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Speaker 2: which we welcome, we call you freshmen at Pate State.

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Speaker 2: Since there are several of you around every week, I

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Speaker 2: just feel the need to reiterate that we are training

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Speaker 2: headlong into what will be a very, very exciting college

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Speaker 2: football season. I would highly recommend you don't take anything

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Speaker 2: for granted. You never know what your sport will look

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Speaker 2: like in five years.

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Speaker 1: Cherish it. Every given Saturday. Cherish it.

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Speaker 2: That is why we're calling this falls tour the every

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Speaker 2: given Saturday Tour.

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Speaker 1: But that's in the future.

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Speaker 2: As for this morning or this afternoon, wherever you're listening,

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Speaker 2: thank you for doing so. This is a wall to

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Speaker 2: wall mail bag only episode. It's your questions, it's my

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Speaker 2: answers all that. Plus I may have a little easter

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Speaker 2: egg of an update about the Late Kickstore coming up

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Speaker 2: at some point in this yere podcast. But man, don't

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Speaker 2: we have to start with what's happening in the Big ten,

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Speaker 2: namely over the past twenty four hours, because I got

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Speaker 2: inundated when I asked for questions with a lot of

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Speaker 2: you wanting to know what I thought about Kevin Warren,

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Speaker 2: who is the Big Ten commissioner, and his comments at

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Speaker 2: Big Ten Media Days. Now, I'm not at Big ten

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Speaker 2: Media Days because well, I spent four days in Atlanta

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Speaker 2: at SEC Media Days and I'm tired of it. I

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Speaker 2: hope that's a good enough reason for you. And so

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Speaker 2: I am watching from down south in Nashville as Kevin

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Speaker 2: Warren steps to the podium and he says, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: paraphrase here. I don't have the quotes pulled up, but

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Speaker 2: he said, we've got to be active, We've got to

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Speaker 2: Big Ten. The days of looking out for each other

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Speaker 2: and collegiate athletics are gone.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Now, in and of itself, what he said is not false,

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Speaker 2: But then again, it's also not false for me to

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Speaker 2: be holding the aforementioned flamethrower and bemoaning the fact that

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Speaker 2: the forest is on fire. Well, who in the world's

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Speaker 2: holding the flamethrower. Now, this is not a bashed Kevin

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Speaker 2: Warren episode, because there's a lot of healthy blame to

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Speaker 2: But here's what you and I know, or at least

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Speaker 2: ninety eight percent of you feel the way I do.

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Speaker 2: I guess there is a way that we like college football.

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Speaker 2: There are things we like about college football. You and

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Speaker 2: I may disagree on some of the more ancillary items.

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Speaker 2: We may even disagree on how we think the playoffs

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Speaker 2: should be structured. But the bottom line is, there is

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Speaker 2: no one listening to this show. There's no one I've

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Speaker 2: being a real fan of this sport that fundamentally hates

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't watch the sport. You would go find other

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Speaker 2: You lose me really quick on that now, as you

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Speaker 2: This is not some podcast that is aimed at aims

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Speaker 2: This is not constructive. We have to have substantive thought

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Speaker 2: Imagine them being in the tornado and saying, all right,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what college football is. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Little Jimmy, conference realignment. What does that mean, Dad? What

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Speaker 2: Well, little Jimmy, this was a world where they did

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Speaker 1: When you're a little Jimmy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you tell that story down the road, it'll

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Speaker 1: You know, even speaking as someone who has.

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Speaker 2: But I think what I was going to say is

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Speaker 2: And I really do, but I don't really feel like

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Speaker 2: I'm really tired of arguing and bickering. No one changed

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Speaker 2: No mu's changing their mind about that. I have long

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Speaker 2: and it's not happening right now. What we do know

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Speaker 2: The answer is Spencer Ratler and it's not even close.

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Speaker 1: Let me take it.

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Speaker 2: Here's why it's important for Spencer Rattler. It's important for

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Speaker 1: Now, if you come here. You could do the same.

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Speaker 2: But I just blindly assume until you prove me otherwise,

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Speaker 2: But even if he goes to the NFL, you have

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Speaker 1: You want to do what now?

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Speaker 2: You want to reinvent yourself, you want to resurrect your career,

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Speaker 2: If you don't believe us, ask that guy over there.

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Speaker 2: Last year, they get beaten the box score, but they

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Speaker 2: then the way that game plays out will largely determine

440
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,560
Speaker 2: the trajectory of the rest of Penn State season because

441
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,640
Speaker 2: there's a world where they start three to zero again,

442
00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 2: and then they're headed into conference play or back into

443
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 2: conference play, and they got the entire world to play

444
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,080
Speaker 2: for conference and beyond. But there is another world where

445
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 2: by the time Ohio State goes to Penn State, they've

446
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,520
Speaker 2: already got three losses, and at that point we're looking

447
00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,160
Speaker 2: around and we're saying, what's the future of this program?

448
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,120
Speaker 1: Now, I will say this.

449
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,879
Speaker 2: I will say that even if Penn State's twenty twenty

450
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,679
Speaker 2: two record doesn't quite measure up to what you want,

451
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,320
Speaker 2: this program does feel different to me. And it feels

452
00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 2: different because there is there are a couple of pieces,

453
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 2: really one important piece in the stable that you don't

454
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,440
Speaker 2: normally have for the past several years, when you said, man,

455
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 2: Penn State's just not quite getting it done for me,

456
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,440
Speaker 2: you looked in the quarterback covered and said yeah.

457
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 1: And there's really no help on the way either.

458
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,680
Speaker 2: At least now, when you look at that cupboard, if

459
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 2: Penn State is disappointing you, you can say yeah, but

460
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 2: there's finally a yeah butt here. And the butt is

461
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 2: there's a five star quarterback waiting in the wings. I

462
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 2: know they don't all pan out. I get that, but

463
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 2: we haven't even had the guy to look at in

464
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 2: the past, and all of a sudden, Drew Ollers over there,

465
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 2: I mean producer Jesse. He believes the dude's probably gonna

466
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 2: win two Heismans and the only reason he won't win

467
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 2: a third is because Nick Singleton, who's the other piece,

468
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 2: the five star tailback who I think you'll see this year,

469
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,920
Speaker 2: is going to split votes with him. So there is

470
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 2: a lot of hope and hype being invested. I don't

471
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 2: think he's playing this year, Drew Aller, at least unless

472
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 2: there's injury.

473
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 1: But at least there's hope.

474
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 2: So we're not going to reach a point this season

475
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 2: where he got a few too many losses on the

476
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 2: resume and there's no hope.

477
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 1: At least you have one.

478
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: Hopefully you've got hope this year and beyond, but at

479
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 2: least you'll have hope beyond. Here is a really good

480
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,399
Speaker 2: question from Josh. He said, if you could wave a

481
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 2: wand and set five programs to an elite level, who

482
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 2: would you pick and why? From Trussville, Alabama, By the way,

483
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 2: that's where Josh Haile's from. So I'm a child of

484
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 2: the nineties and therefore that is going to heavily influence

485
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 2: my decision making. But also, you know, I like elite

486
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: powers being spread across college football. That's not necessarily the

487
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 2: way it's built right now, and I've gotten my own

488
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 2: theories as to why that is, and they don't always

489
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,959
Speaker 2: sound as simple as some of my other colleagues make

490
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 2: it sound. But that's not the question. The question is

491
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: who do we want.

492
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 1: To make elite?

493
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 2: Right off the bat, Florida State and Miami elite. Again,

494
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm burning two of my five on that rivalry. And

495
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 2: what that does is twofold number one. It gives me

496
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 2: big time consequential Caines versus Knowles again, but it also

497
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: provides a ton of competition in the ACC. Think about

498
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: how much more crowded that ACC title picture field is.

499
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: And also, if we've got both of those playing at

500
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 2: an elite level picture, how much more crowded to college

501
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: football playoff picture looks. And thirdly, this is going to

502
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 2: influence the rest of my answers too. If Florida State

503
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: and Miami are elite, that means no longer is Alabama

504
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 2: going into South Florida and taking a whole bunch of talent.

505
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: They still may take some, but They're not going to

506
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 1: go and raid it.

507
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: Neither is Ohio State, Neither is Georgia, neither is Clemson.

508
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: This has been a theme on Lake Kick for a

509
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: long time. If you want more competitive balance, you need

510
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: to shore up the end state recruiting efforts of teams

511
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: like Florida State, Miami and Florida next up. I would

512
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 2: put Texas at an elite level, and I think that

513
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: that would bode very well coming into the SEC, not

514
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 2: only because well, Texas and O You is already a

515
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: good rivalry, but think about what it would be Texas

516
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 2: and Texas A and M. We're about to get that

517
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 2: rivalry back, you know. And it may be next year,

518
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: it may be two years from now, but whenever Texas

519
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,719
Speaker 2: and O You make the move to the SEC, we're

520
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 2: going to get that rivalry back. People are discounting or

521
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: they are underplaying how huge that rivalry is going to be.

522
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 2: But even more so, if Texas actually is elite in

523
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: this scenario, I just waved my wand and I made

524
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: him elite. You've got the Iron Bowl in the SEC,

525
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 2: and you got Georgia Florida. Those are really the two

526
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: biggest rivalries right now from a national perspective, Texas O you,

527
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 2: it could end up being the biggest rivalry in the

528
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: SEC from a national perspective, I don't mean if you

529
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: live in Trustville, which is where Josh lives. And I'm

530
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 2: not speaking in third person. The guy who asked the

531
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 2: question is Josh Love the neat not in Trustville, Alabama.

532
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 2: That will never be the biggest rivalry there, and the

533
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: Iron Bowl will never fade as a premier rivalry. But

534
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: you've got to understand something. Auburn right now is not

535
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 2: a national power. Auburn has not been a national power

536
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 2: for several years. In the national college football public's eye.

537
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: Texas A and M and Texas both could be that,

538
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: and they both will recruit at a top ten to

539
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: maybe even top five level on average. Like recruiting is

540
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 2: not going anywhere but up for those programs, And imagine

541
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: them playing every year. It's the intensity of Texas and

542
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: OU think about what the dynamic will be. A and

543
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 2: M tried to get away from them, and they did,

544
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: and then Texas comes and rejoins them. You've got so

545
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 2: much off field storyline type stuff that I know matters

546
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: to a lot of people. The football is good enough

547
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: for me but if you need the story, boy, you

548
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 2: got the story there. Texas also, if they are elite,

549
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: their recruiting in state ramps up, and the same thing

550
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: I just said for South Florida applies to Texas. It

551
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: becomes a lot of harder, and it already is, but

552
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: it becomes even harder for Alabama and Georgia and Ohio State,

553
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: three teams that have thrived in Texas to go in

554
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: there and take as much talent. I'm moving out west.

555
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: I definitely want USC to be an elite team. That's four,

556
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: I think now four out of five. I don't think

557
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: I really need to go over the list again. It's

558
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 2: the same reasons. I gotta be honest with you. You know,

559
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: I've taken heat a fair amount of heat for my

560
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: affinity for Notre Dame because I grew up in the South,

561
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 2: the deep deep South, and they teach you to hate

562
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame there, and I've had kind of a reverence

563
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: for the Notre Dame brand. I feel the same way

564
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 2: about USC I always have.

565
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: Now.

566
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: The added benefit that USC always had in my life

567
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: was when I was a kid, I owned that Fleetwood

568
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: Mac nineteen ninety nine, The Dance Reunion concert DVD and

569
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: USC's marching band performed with Fleetwood Mac on stage, So

570
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 2: that turned me. It was not Matt Lionern, it wasn't

571
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: Reggie Bush, it wasn't Pete Carroll. It was Fleetwood Mac

572
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: in USC, the biggest collab in my childhood in nineteen

573
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: ninety seven. That's what turned me. So I've never been

574
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 2: anti USC from that point forward. But I just like

575
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: the idea. When we were out in LA a few

576
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: weeks ago, I just thought about the idea of that

577
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: again being a place where you go from college football

578
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: feeling like it's an afterthought to college football really moving

579
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 2: the needle, even in Los Angeles, California. Those of you

580
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: who live out there, you understand how hard it is

581
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: to do what I.

582
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: Just talked about.

583
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: But then again, those of you who live out in

584
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: LA or southern California know in the early two thousands

585
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: it was the place to be. I think if you're

586
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: in college right now, you've seen some of the highlights.

587
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: But what you've seen is you've seen Reggie Bush. You know,

588
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: you've seen the highlight of Vince Young taking down USC

589
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 2: and people telling you that five Rose Bowl is the

590
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: best game they've ever seen, but that's really the extent

591
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: of your catalog.

592
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: And your memory.

593
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: You didn't live it. And let me assure you if

594
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: you did not live it. The Colisseum the La Coliseum

595
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: on Saturdays was a spectacle. You had celebrities lining the sidelines.

596
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean people you would never even think could spell

597
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: college football, People who probably couldn't even name the mascot

598
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: of half the teams in the Pac twelve.

599
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: They're on the sideline.

600
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 2: It is true what people say about them when they

601
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: are elite. It's not hyperbolic. It's just that they haven't

602
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: been elite in a long time. So when you hear

603
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: people say, I hear Colhurt say this all the time,

604
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: when you hear people say, boy, when USC's rolling, they

605
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: have a different vibe than any program in America.

606
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: He is so spot on correct with that.

607
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: It's just been so long, it's been like twenty years,

608
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: that no one really knows what that means anymore. Now

609
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: the older crowd does. But if you're in college, if

610
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 2: you're in high school, if you're a young adult, if

611
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: you're in your early twenties, you don't know what that means.

612
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: I would love to wave my wand and let you

613
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: find out what that means.

614
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's turning on a USC game.

615
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: If USC's ranked in the top three, top four and

616
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: they're in the playoff hunt. You have never seen anything

617
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: that looks like what that place would look like. There

618
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: are seats in that place, in that building, the LA Coliseum,

619
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: that have not been darkened in over a decade, unless

620
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 2: you had a concert out there that all of a

621
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: sudden would be going for two hundred bucks a pop

622
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: on stub Hub. It changes out there. When it changes,

623
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: it really changes. But what about my fifth program?

624
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: Now?

625
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a wild card here. I mean

626
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to go way off the radar, and so

627
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: naturally I did ACC schools. I got an SEC or

628
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: a future SEC. I've got a PAC twelve there. So

629
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 2: I've either got to go Big ten or I got

630
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: to go Big twelve. And I think I'm gonna go

631
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: Big ten. And I really wanted to go Iowa State now,

632
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to put you through that. I

633
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: want to go Michigan State. I want to make Michigan

634
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: State an elite team because of what that would mean

635
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: If Michigan State ends up being an elite program, that

636
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: means the Meltucker recruiting vision and strategy has broken through

637
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: and he has convinced a critical mass of elite high

638
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: school talent to do what you didn't think was possible,

639
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 2: and that is uprout nationally. He's got to do this

640
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: nationally and relocate to East Lansing, michiganvoluntarily play your college

641
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: ball in East Lansing, even when you got other options

642
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: that the rest of the world will tell you are

643
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: far better for a college football experience. If that were

644
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: to happen, it adds to the intrigue of the Big

645
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: ten picture. But also it creates a new model, doesn't it.

646
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: It creates a model for everyone out there that tells you, well,

647
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: if you're not Alabama or Ohio State or Clemson, the

648
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: sports leaving you behind, Well, Michigan State. They don't buy

649
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 2: that now, and certainly this would just be validity to

650
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: that if it were to turn out this way, Like,

651
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: I love what they're doing because they're not accepting what

652
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: the rest of the sport is telling them. They're not

653
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: accepting the fate that the rest of the world tells

654
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: them they have to accept. They're really really serious. If

655
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: you don't believe that take a look at how they recruit.

656
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you their top five every year. I'm

657
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: telling you look at how they're recruiting, Look at where

658
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: they're recruiting. Look at how much money they're paying Mel Tucker.

659
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: If you don't think that's serious, I don't really know

660
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: how you define serious. So you give me FSU and Miami,

661
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: give me Texas, give me USC, and give me Michigan State,

662
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: a wild car fifth team there, and I would wave

663
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: my wand and make all of them elite. I also

664
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: think out of left field entirely, if we made Hawaii elite,

665
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: people would just have no clue what to do. I

666
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: think it would upset the gambling crowd because some of

667
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: you out there are used to betting the Hawaii game

668
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: and staying up. You know, you tell your wife you're

669
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: coming to bed, and then you sneak out of bed

670
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: and then go watch Hawaii sweat it out till three

671
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: am Eastern time, so you're trying to hit that second

672
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: half under. But if Hawaii were elite, more eyeballs would

673
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: be on Hawaii games, and more people would be betting

674
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: Hawaii games, and you probably wouldn't get soft lines like

675
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: you do, right, now and it would probably mess some

676
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: of you up. So actually, let me not even wave

677
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: my wand towards Hawaii. You guys, now, the more I

678
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: think about it, you got a lot going on.

679
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: For you out there.

680
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 2: Hawaii does not need elite college football anymore than you

681
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: need this.

682
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: Got him.

683
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: It's a sport for me at this point. I'm sorry,

684
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 2: it's a sport at this point. You really didn't think

685
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: we were getting that deep in the podcast without having

686
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: a swerve. Bro, if you get it, you get it.

687
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: Ad toss thrown your way? Did you know you did not?

688
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: Will is up next. Will said, at what point in

689
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: the year should one be concerned about their school's recruiting

690
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: class lagging behind? Is now about that time as kids

691
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: look to shut it down and focus on their high

692
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: school season.

693
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: Will I guess it has.

694
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: To do with two things. Number one, what are your expectations?

695
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 2: If you expect a top ten class and your classes

696
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: in the fifties, it's not a fun time right now. Also,

697
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: the calendar is shifting, and it could just be that

698
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: your staff is behind the curve. I guess I said too.

699
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: There is a third factor in play, and that is

700
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: some of the bigger.

701
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: Dogs A and M.

702
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about specifically right now because they're in the

703
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: news for their low recruiting ranking. Some of these big

704
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: dog programs they get to choose when they move, and

705
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: so Texas A and M's kind of a case study.

706
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 2: We're going to find out if I'm right about this

707
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: right now, as I record on Tuesday night, Texas A

708
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: and M's got the fifty eighth ranked class in America

709
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: per the twenty four to seven Sports Team rankings. It

710
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: looks like a typo. No, it's fifty eighth. But here's

711
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: the thing. They've got a grand total of what six kids? Yeah,

712
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: they got six kids committed right now. They don't have

713
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: their class, and so you either believe one of two things.

714
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: You either believe that Texas A and M recruiting has

715
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: just shut down and they can't land anyone a few

716
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: months after landing the top rated class of all time,

717
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: or you believe, like I do, they're not ready to

718
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: move yet.

719
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: And I'm right. Let me just spoil the ending for you.

720
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm right here.

721
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: They're not going to land the number one class in

722
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: the country. So I'm also right about that. But Texas

723
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: A and M is going to end up either bordering

724
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: on the top ten or with a top ten class,

725
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: and they'll make several big moves late and you'll look

726
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: at it and you'll realize when they make the moves,

727
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: they could have made that move whenever they wanted to.

728
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: And by move, I mean really push a kid to commit.

729
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: They could have made that move whenever they want to.

730
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: Here's what I think. My theory is, they realized, with

731
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: how successful their approach is last year, that they could

732
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: choose to do that whenever they want to this year.

733
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: And so I think they're going to choose to wait

734
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: a little bit later to do it.

735
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: Because if you know you can get a.

736
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: Certain kid, why not wait a little bit deeper into

737
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: his senior year. Why not wait until you get to

738
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: maybe evaluate some of his senior year more closely?

739
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: Why not?

740
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: Now the why not? Since you're not here to answer that,

741
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 2: I'll answer it for you. Here's the why not you

742
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: just mentioned it will a lot of kids are already

743
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: locking their recruitment down. That is true. That is true.

744
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: So if I were an A and M fan, that's

745
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: what would worry me. The effectiveness of my staff wouldn't

746
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: worry me so much. It just may be that my

747
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: highly effective staff potentially could be choosing a wrong approach,

748
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: shall we say, not the best approach, because what if

749
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: we wait to move and then several kids that we

750
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: would have been able to move on have chosen after

751
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: they commit to Texas or they commit to Oklahoma or

752
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: Alabama to shut their recruitment down because that does happen.

753
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: I mean that may happen, this cycle on them, but

754
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: I just I cannot in any world for see a

755
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: scenario where they go from finishing number one overall to

756
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: outside like the top fifteen or twenty. I cannot see that,

757
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: absolutely cannot. So having said that, if I were running

758
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: Peate State, for example, if I were our recruiting coordinator

759
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: or our head coach here and I'm the chancellor, so

760
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: I leave that to our coaches, but at Pate State,

761
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: I'd want to be moving. I'd do it like for instance,

762
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: Ohio State's done it. I'd do it like Alabama's doing it.

763
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: I'd be moving on kids right now, because that's how

764
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: the recruiting calendar has adjusted. You know, I would be

765
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: treating these big summer visit weekends as also commitment weekends.

766
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: I would be.

767
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: Pushing to lock kids down now You've got to be

768
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: really sure of your evaluations. It used to be that

769
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: that was unheard of, moving on your entire class before

770
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: their senior year in high school. But that's the way

771
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: it is now. Because of the early signing day, kids

772
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: have moved their visit schedule up. A lot of kids,

773
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: especially the elite kids, a lot of them want to

774
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: lock down their commitment before they even start their senior

775
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: year and have that security. And so you know, I

776
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: think Texas, A and M, because of that, is a

777
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: pretty good case study right now. I's chest next question,

778
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: what's the best case scenario for Baylor this year? I'm

779
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: maybe I'm out on an island on this. I find

780
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: Baylor to be a very fascinating program. They won the

781
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: Big Twelve last year, and I think they just came

782
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: out of nowhere on people. You don't get to do

783
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: what I do I wish you did. You don't get

784
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: to sit in rooms with these coaches. You don't get

785
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: to go to different games every week and stand on

786
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: the sideline experience all that stuff. That's why I try

787
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: and take you with me as much as I can

788
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: via the eye, Josh. But when we went to the

789
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: Baylor Oklahoma game last year. It was pretty eye opening

790
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: for me for two reasons. Number one, we got to

791
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: be part of a field storming and number two, we

792
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: got to hang out and get a little intel in

793
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: a little behind the scenes peak at how Dave Randa

794
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: thinks and how he operates and man he is Peate

795
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: State material through and through. Dave Randa is the man.

796
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: Love Dave Randa. I think that this year they're a

797
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: wild card team again because the question is what's the

798
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: best case scenario for them? Their best case scenario is

799
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: winning the Big Twelve pushing for a playoff spot. They

800
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: have I think the fourth best odds to win it

801
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: this year at plus six hundred the Big Twelve. To

802
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 2: win the Big Twelve, they're plus six hundred, so they're

803
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: behind Oh, they're behind Texas. Who would the third team

804
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: be Oklahoma State? They're behind Oklahoma State too, So Baylor's

805
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: at plus six hundred. They had the second to worst

806
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: odds in the conference last year and they won it,

807
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: so odds mean nothing to them. I think a lot

808
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: of folks rightly so are looking at the fact that

809
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: they're replacing a quarterback. But you need to zoom in

810
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: on that, and you need to understand, not all replacing

811
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: quarterback situations are the same, because they could have chosen

812
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: to have last year's starting quarterback, Gary Bohannon, for those

813
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: of you unfamiliar, was told during spring practice or at

814
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: the conclusion of it by Dave Randa, you're not our starter.

815
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: He got beat out, just clean got beat out in

816
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: spring practice. Now how many times do you hear that happening?

817
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: At the very least, most coaches want to keep that

818
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: illusion of a quarterback battle because they want adequate depth

819
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: in the fall. And so normal coaches would have said, well,

820
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: we're in a tight quarterback battle here and we'll go

821
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: into fall and we'll decide it on the field. Blah

822
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: blah blah. I wouldn't even have a problem with that.

823
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: But man Dave Randa said, nope, I owe it to

824
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: him the big twelfth title last year. I owe it

825
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: to him, to be honest, and he told Gary Bohannon,

826
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: you are not the starting quarterback here right now, exiting

827
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: spring you have been beat out. And Gary Bohannon transferred.

828
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: But that's not what most of the country sees. Most

829
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: of the country seas out of quarterback's not there anymore.

830
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: Plus they'll fall back to Earth just because that has

831
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: to happen.

832
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: Apparently with everyone. You know what I see.

833
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: I see them admitting they have a better option at

834
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: quarterback than the one that won them the conference last year.

835
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 2: And they have their entire defensive front back which wreaked

836
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: havoc on opposing backfields last year.

837
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: That's what I see.

838
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: I don't doubt the secondary will be good under Dave Randa,

839
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: and with the way Grimes and that entire crew started

840
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: calling games last year, and with their in game decision

841
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: making rapidly improving last year from a year before that,

842
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: I don't doubt the overall philosophy of the program. I

843
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: certainly don't doubt Dave Randa's overarching philosophy. I think they

844
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: could win the conference last year. In fact, over the

845
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: past two minutes, I may have talked myself into a

846
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: little action on Baylor to win the conference. Now that's

847
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: what can happen here, guys. It's sometimes this podcast is

848
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: way more informative for me than it ever will be

849
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: for you. But yeah, Baylor can win the conference this year,

850
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: and if they do, who knows if they may be

851
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: in playoff contention.

852
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: For all we know.

853
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm a big Baylor guy, though, love love where the

854
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: program's headed. So I wanted to wait until the end

855
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: because I don't want to clog up the beginning of

856
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: this thing with talking about shop business. But those of

857
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: you who have been asking about the late kickstore, we

858
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: opened it. What my goal is is to make sure

859
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: I don't plaster stuff about our merchandise all over my

860
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: social feeds and all over the shows, because that's not

861
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: ever going to be what it's about. We are not

862
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: going to clutter up our content with all that mess.

863
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: It is something we're doing. It's something that you asked

864
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: me for for two years. It's something I had to

865
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: negotiate with management to get and I did that and

866
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: we opened it. We've opened it three times. The store's

867
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: been open a combined ninety minutes, and all three times

868
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: you have totally drained it. And that's a good problem

869
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: to have. It's a problem I'm addressing very soon we'll

870
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: just be able to keep the store open, and at

871
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: that point we'll also really really be updating in toy

872
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. I mean, there are a lot of good

873
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Speaker 2: concept ideas that we have. There are a ton of

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Speaker 2: products that will be in that store very soon. That

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Speaker 2: aren't right now. I just wanted to put enough on

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Speaker 2: the shelves. I wish I could have put enough on

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Speaker 2: the shelves to appease you to open it. And some

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Speaker 2: some of our items have been really hot, so I'll

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Speaker 2: be updating that.

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Speaker 1: But what I wanted you to know is if you

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Speaker 1: follow on my.

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Speaker 2: Social channels at late Kickjosh, you will know when I

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Speaker 2: open that thing up. I don't want to make a

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Speaker 2: big deal about it and you know, announce it again

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Speaker 2: because we were sold out in ten minutes when I

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Speaker 2: did that, so our die hard fans, our diehard audience,

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Speaker 2: our p ones. I want you guys to have first access,

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Speaker 2: and the best way I know to do that is,

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Speaker 2: I guess, set text alerts or not text alerts, set

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Speaker 2: email alerts. You can go to pastatemateial dot com and

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Speaker 2: I think right there on the home screen you can

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Speaker 2: sign up for an email alert when I open that store.

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Speaker 2: You can also just follow me on Twitter and set

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Speaker 2: tweet alerts, although that could get aggravating even I do

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Speaker 2: not advise one to do that, but if you really

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Speaker 2: want to be in the whenever that happens, that's the

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Speaker 2: best way.

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Speaker 1: At Late Kick Josh.

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Speaker 2: But look, it is beyond the wildest success that we

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Speaker 2: ever thought we could have with that store. So I

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Speaker 2: appreciate that we have only just begun on that There

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Speaker 2: are gonna be some things in there that I think

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Speaker 2: you guys will really really love. And if there's something

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Speaker 2: in there you don't love, I'm yanking it off the shelves.

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Speaker 1: No hurt feelings here.

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Speaker 2: We're doing it for you, We're not doing it for us.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate you, guys. I got to get this

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Speaker 2: sent off so it can be cut up by guess who.

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Speaker 2: Producer Jordan for one show only, Producer Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Back in the building. There he is at the door,

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Speaker 1: Producer Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Here you go, do your best so for producer Jordan,

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Speaker 2: one night only.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening, Have a great rest of

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Speaker 2: your day, and as always, God bless me.