1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. The Patriots Training 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Camp Cast is your source for all the news from 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Patriots training Camp. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: Well, I do still watch the news. 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Practice is over, but the writers of Patriots dot com 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: have you covered. 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 3: What did I miss yesterday? 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Now here to review today's practice. The writers of Patriots 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: dot Com. 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 3: Mike or So and Paul Perlo here again following day 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: eight of Patriots training camp and when Bill Belichick starts 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: to talk about stacking the days, Mike, this particular camp, 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 3: Camp twenty three is stacking the days because it's every 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: day out there. The weather has been absolutely fantastic, Probably 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: not quite as warm as maybe the coach would like, 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: but beautiful conditions out here in Foxborough. In the physicality 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: to me, full pads, second day in a row. The 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 3: physicality is what stood out to me today in terms 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: of tackling to the ground. Mike, we haven't seen a 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: lot of that over the years. I think offensively, I 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: think they continue to sort of build a little bit 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: of momentum here a couple of wrinkles. What were your 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: first impressions today? 24 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I thought the first, you know, big 25 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: takeaway was just the offense being a little you know, 26 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: continuing to kind of develop, looking like they're you know, 27 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: finding their stride a little bit, some some nice a 28 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: bunch of eleven on eleven periods that they were working 29 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: on various stuff. One particular throw, you know, by Mac 30 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: up the sideline. I've been saying, I want to see 31 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: a deep throw to Trey Nixon. Really beautiful ball, nice catch. 32 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: You know. 33 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: It was one of those weird reps though, where only 34 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: half the line was rushing, and you know, so it 35 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: was a little bit weird. It wasn't perfect, but otherwise, 36 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I thought it was great to see 37 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: another day of pads, great to see someone on ones again, 38 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: seeing that physicality pile up, and you know, with the 39 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: in stadium practice schedule for tomorrow, looks like they're going 40 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: to be off at least as far as media access 41 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: goes for the weekend. So it was a good day 42 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: probably to get some physicality in. 43 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. And one of the wrinkles that I, you know, 44 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: sort of alluded to was Mac Jones. The first handful 45 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: of team reps. Eleven on eleven reps was dealing with 46 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: the quote unquote starting offensive line, but the two number 47 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: two receivers, So you know Mike mentioned the big throat 48 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: to Trey Nixon. He was he had Nixon and Douglas 49 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: and Booty and those guys to work with, and Bailey 50 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: Zappi was behind the second offensive line but had Juju 51 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 3: and Parker and Born. So I thought that was a 52 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: little bit of a wrinkle that maybe Bill Belichick and 53 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien dialed up today, and then it sort of 54 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: went back to the normal groupings at the end when 55 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: they started doing some of their down in distance. They 56 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: worked a lot of second and third down today and 57 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: then down in the red zone. So I agree, I 58 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: thought there was a little bit more rhythm. It seems 59 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: like the rhythm is coming a little bit more every 60 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: day in terms of timing, and one guy in particular, 61 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: it looks like he's developing a little bit of a 62 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: rapport with his Juju. Smith Schuster, who had another touchdown 63 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: say in a little tunnel screen well designed, really caught 64 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: the defense by surprise in the red zone. So I 65 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: think those are some building blocks to work with for 66 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: both bills. 67 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, I would just run down some of 68 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: the depth issues because it's certainly notable that Matthew Judon, 69 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: Trent Brown haven't really been participating in physical portions of 70 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: practice whatever that has to be done doing with But 71 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: I would say vermondra Stevenson back in the mix today 72 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: a little bit getting some so they upped him a 73 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: little bit. But you know, it's just a lot of 74 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: guys kind of limited chasing Hines another one who's you know, 75 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 2: hasn't really been participating. So just some offensive line depth 76 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: and they're continuing to have to shuffle guys in and out. 77 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm not sure where, you know, are they looking for 78 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: answers or are they just trying to put guys in 79 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: of who they have healthy right now? 80 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so little that's a good point that you make. 81 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: I'll just the bookkeeping that we'd like to do every podcast. 82 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 3: Ti Montgomery, Terres Hall, and Cole Strange again, you know, 83 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: you know, missing practice. Montgomery and Strange came back on 84 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: the field late, probably last twenty twenty five minutes, helmets 85 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: in hand shirts on no pads, both with sleeves on 86 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: their left leg. So it looks like they're probably both 87 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: dealing with some sort of left knee injury would be 88 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: my guess. 89 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: Still a good sign they're out. 90 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: There, so they they probably getting closer and to your 91 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: point about the offensive line, it again was Cody Russy 92 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: and Antonio Maffi, not Bill Murray. Murray was going with 93 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: the later groups, and you mentioned Hines sort of mixing 94 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: in with those groups too, So you know, again, it's 95 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: kind of curious to me the whole Trent Brown, Matthew 96 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: Judhon plan. For the lack of a better word, Julian 97 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: Edelman on hand today looked like he talked to the 98 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: team a little bit at the end of practice. One 99 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: thing we should note, not exactly sure what happened here. 100 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw something differently from up top. 101 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: Jack Jones looked like he dove broke up or at 102 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: least bothered Kendrick Bourn enough on an out route and 103 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: got up and celebrated it. And then all of a 104 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: sudden he's walking with Jabrill Peppers back to the locker room. 105 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: That was at about let's say about ten twenty, and 106 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: he went to the locker room about ten forty five. 107 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: He comes back, spent the time on a knee by himself. 108 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: Matt grow went over and talked to him for a 109 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: little bit. Jalen Mills had some conversations, but he really 110 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 3: didn't do anything the rest of the practice. I'm not 111 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: exactly sure what was going on. Did you see anything different? No, 112 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: that was pretty much how I saw it. 113 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, you know, it looked to me 114 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: like Pepper's kind of arm around him, like giving him 115 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: some veteran advice. It seems like Pepper's kind of emerging 116 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: is a little bit more of a leader this year. 117 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, tough to say. 118 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: And obviously there's so many issues right now, you know, 119 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: overhanging Jack Jones this season that you just you wonder 120 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 2: he needs to kind of, you know, be stacking days 121 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: with positivity, and I don't think today probably was one. 122 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: So I guess we'll see what the fallout is over 123 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: the next couper. 124 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just you know, one of those things that 125 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: we haven't seen a lot of. I alluded to the 126 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: tackling to the ground. Christian Gonzalez came up and made 127 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: a really nice play. It probably got the big biggest 128 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 3: reaction of the day from any any of the plays. 129 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 3: Kind of recognized a little little swing pass in the flat, 130 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: came up, darted, chopped the legs right out for a 131 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 3: for a lost tackle for loss, and that seemed to 132 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: get a lot of energy on the defensive side. But 133 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: even the the little you know, the pursuit drills, the 134 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 3: ball kit. You know, there's one ball carrier, one tackle. 135 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: They usually tap on the hip. They were tackling to 136 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: the ground today and by the way, not surprisingly unless 137 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: they knocked him out of bounds. To Mario Douglas, no 138 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 3: one was able to tackle him. But they did knock 139 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: him out of bounds a couple of times. So some 140 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 3: different wrinkles to the drills that we've seen over the years. 141 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting. 142 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Douglas has just been all over the place. I mean, 143 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: it's just you know, he's always in motion, he's fast, 144 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: he's he's going to be, I think, an asset to 145 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: this team. I mean, I don't want to jump the 146 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: gun and say, you know, not only is going to 147 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: make the team, but he's going to be part of 148 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: the offense this year. But based on you know, Taekwon 149 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: Thornton being down in the lower field, opportunities are presenting 150 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: themselves and I feel like Davis and over the last 151 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: two days Booty a little bit have taken made. 152 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: A nice catch. I don't know if he was in bounds, 153 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: but that was a nice play, nice catch on the 154 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: back corner of the end zone, so he's building a 155 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: little momentum. He admitted that he got off to a 156 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: little bit of a slow start and feels a little 157 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: bit more comfortable. So we'll wrap up Day eight with 158 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: those comments. Just le f yi for our loyal followers, 159 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: because I know there are millions of you. Tomorrow, on Friday, 160 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: the Patriots are scheduled to have their in stadium practice 161 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: open to Foxborough residents and season ticket members only inside 162 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: Jillette Stadium. That's tomorrow night, six thirty ish scheduled to 163 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: get underway. So if you're looking for our podcast tomorrow 164 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: and you're not sure where it is, it won't be 165 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: coming until around, you know, probably nine o'clock or so. 166 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: So you want to make sure, I know, everybody be 167 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: waited with baited breath to hear what say correct, So 168 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: until then, that's going to put a wrap on Day eight.