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Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone as active as this president in

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Speaker 1: recruiting big companies to spend their dollars in this country

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Speaker 1: and build their factories in this country and the manufacturing

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Speaker 1: centers in this country. Than this president. He has no

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Speaker 1: problem getting on the phone and asking CEOs of what

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Speaker 1: I what's getting in the way of you building here

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Speaker 1: and not Mexico. You know, what are we doing wrong?

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Speaker 1: Tell me what's hurting you? How can how can government

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Speaker 1: better serve you? Because he wants those Americans in those

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Speaker 1: towns in Ohio and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and Michigan. He

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Speaker 1: wants those those people to have jobs and low and behold,

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Speaker 1: we have the best employment situation since nineteen sixty nine.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody in the media that's going to report that.

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Speaker 1: A few of US talk show hosts will report it.

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Speaker 1: You know, record low unemployment again, another record for African

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Speaker 1: Americans at last week and a half, record low unemployment

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Speaker 1: Hispanic Americans. A guy that has a plan to exterminate Latinos,

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Speaker 1: according to NBC. You know, record law unemployment, record law

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Speaker 1: unemployment for Asian Americans, women in the workforce, youth unemployment.

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Speaker 1: You th unemployment is important because that means kids aren't

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Speaker 1: going to be on the streets getting in trouble. When

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Speaker 1: I was young and I had a job. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: getting in trouble. That's good. Learn how to work, learn

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Speaker 1: what real life's about. Every kid can use that that

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Speaker 1: opportunity in life. But now sixty one percent of the

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Speaker 1: money raised, well, that would be anecdotal that Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: isn't losing the enthusiasm he out in twenty sixteen. So

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Speaker 1: he got rid of the regulations, He kept his promises

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Speaker 1: on judges. He gave us the biggest tax cut in history.

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Speaker 1: You see. He kept his word and negotiated better trade deals.

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Speaker 1: He's doing it with our European partners. He's done it

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Speaker 1: with Canada and Mexico. He's now in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a fight that he's gonna win with China. At some point.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting concessions. It's not where we want it to be.

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Speaker 1: It's not the best in terms of stability for the

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Speaker 1: stock market. Not that I really most people really care

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Speaker 1: about the stock market that much. I mean, honestly, it's

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Speaker 1: the stock market for seventy percent of Americans. All these

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Speaker 1: numbers are meaningless. Let's first get to survival. I would

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Speaker 1: like to see American I think the best thing this

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Speaker 1: president has done has opened up our energy independence for

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Speaker 1: the first time in seventy five years, and by that

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Speaker 1: is the single biggest wealth creator resource we have as

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Speaker 1: a country. If you want to raise the standard of

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Speaker 1: living of every American, we got all the oil, natural gas,

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Speaker 1: clean coal that we could ever want. And if we

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Speaker 1: start taking it out in larger and larger quantities and

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Speaker 1: shipping it abroad and providing the energy needs the lifeblood

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Speaker 1: of every economy on the face of this earth, that

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Speaker 1: alone will raise the standard of living of every American

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Speaker 1: because that industry is paying big money career jobs in

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Speaker 1: basically every aspect of the energy, energy process or the

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Speaker 1: energy industry, starting with you. Those that drive the energy

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Speaker 1: and trucks are being trained to being paid eighty grand

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Speaker 1: a year without any overtime, and then you have as

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Speaker 1: much overtime as you can ever want. But of course

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Speaker 1: that's not stories not going to be told by the media.

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Speaker 1: They just you know, how can we hate Trump today?

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Speaker 1: Let's call them how can we call them a bigger

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Speaker 1: racist today? It goes on and by their standards in

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Speaker 1: the media, well, then Bernie Sanders responsible for the skill

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Speaker 1: Lee shooting, Elizabeth Warren, the Dayton shooting, all the Democrats

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Speaker 1: that say they're concentration camps. Well, the shooting that has

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Speaker 1: taken place in San Antonio and the ICE facilities, will

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Speaker 1: they be responsible for that? Their rhetoric caused it? Or

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Speaker 1: the other attacks? For example, in July of twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: when the Washington Iceity facility you know, was shot at,

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Speaker 1: yet a man accused of hurling incendiary devices at that

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Speaker 1: Washington ICE facility, he was shot by police. Or the

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Speaker 1: one in Arizona, the suspect and the shooting involving ICE

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Speaker 1: special agents were identified there. Then you've got, of course Democrats.

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Speaker 1: You have a representative Getierrez calling ICE agents gestopo. Is

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Speaker 1: he responsible then for what happened in San Antonio? Or

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Speaker 1: there's you know, liberal resistance dot net and it says

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Speaker 1: ICE the American Gestapo, or a Cassio Cortes, Alexandria Cossio Cortez,

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Speaker 1: the congresswoman from Queens, New York, or doubling down on

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Speaker 1: dumb and stupid and comparing the detention centers to concentration camps.

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Speaker 1: Will somebody please take this woman over to Auschwitz and

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Speaker 1: somebody that we have plenty of video to show her

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Speaker 1: what a real concentration camp looks like. And then we

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Speaker 1: can go take her to the one that Griff Jenkins

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Speaker 1: went to with the soccer fields, the wreck facilities, the phones, oh,

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Speaker 1: the computers, and let's see what else did they have?

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Speaker 1: There are the recreational facilities. They had medical care, they

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Speaker 1: had beds, they had blankets, they had pillows. That's not

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Speaker 1: what Auschwitz was and not a concentration camp. Pretty unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You know, Democratic congresswoman called Ice gestapo of America. This

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Speaker 1: Vet Clark congresswoman, Well she responsible of what's happening. What

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Speaker 1: about all these people like Mayor Pete, he helped prepare

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Speaker 1: immigrants when Ice raids were coming. What about these the

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Speaker 1: eating in the betting and sanctuary cities and states? You

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Speaker 1: know Donald Trump moderndega stop all said almost every day

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Speaker 1: by people on NBC, ABCCBS. They don't care about the truth.

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Speaker 1: They'll never tell the truth, and that's why so many

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Speaker 1: people hate them. But the question will be, as it

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Speaker 1: is every election. Are you better off than you were

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Speaker 1: four years ago? Donald Trump lost many of his supporters.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. And what about the people best

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Speaker 1: employment situation since nineteen sixty nine? The millions and millions

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Speaker 1: now off of food stamps, out of poverty, out of work,

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Speaker 1: now working. Will they consider voting for Donald Trump because

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Speaker 1: they have a better situation? I think the answers yes.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to crazy Uncle Joe and company. Frankly angry

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Speaker 1: to learn of the MCC's failure to adequately secure this prisoner.

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Speaker 1: We are now learning of serious irregularities at this facility

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Speaker 1: that are deeply concerning and demand a thorough investigation. The

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Speaker 1: FBI and the Office of Inspector General are doing just that.

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Speaker 1: We will get to the bottom of what happened, and

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Speaker 1: there will be accountability. But let me assure you that

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Speaker 1: this case will continue on against anyone who was complicit

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Speaker 1: with Epstein. Any co conspirators should not rest easy. The

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Speaker 1: victims deserve justice and they will get it. They deserve

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Speaker 1: justice and they will get it. That the commitment from

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General bar as it relates to the Epstein

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Speaker 1: death in jail. Many many questions remain. There are two

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Speaker 1: stories that we are following with investigative reporter and executive

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Speaker 1: vice president columnist for The Hill, John Solomon. One has

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Speaker 1: to do with Epstein. We now have memos showing the

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Speaker 1: DJ has been warning for decades about really serious stark

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Speaker 1: problems inside the federal prison system. The issue in Epstein's

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Speaker 1: death closely resemble those and high profile inmate suicide probe

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Speaker 1: from twenty four years earlier. Why haven't they fixed it?

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Speaker 1: You see internal reviews frequently flagging security issues like security

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Speaker 1: camera blind spots. You had the the unions fumbling contraband

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Speaker 1: surge policies for ten years despite safety concerns. The question is, well,

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Speaker 1: what high profile people was Epstein talking about when he

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Speaker 1: talked to a New York reporter saying, Oh, yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of dirt on a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: And with all the media out there, and they're sick,

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Speaker 1: twisted and ugly conspiracy theories. Once again, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: get to the truth. We don't know what the answers

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Speaker 1: are at this moment. We'll get there anyway. John Solomon

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Speaker 1: joins us on this, and we're also expecting what is

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Speaker 1: the first of what will be at least three major

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Speaker 1: reports that will be coming out. Reports two and three

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Speaker 1: will be the massive bombshells we've been predicting for over

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Speaker 1: two years. John Solomon, let's start on the Epstein case. Yeah, absolutely, Listen,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that are still uncertain in

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Speaker 1: the factual narrative that we need to all build before

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Speaker 1: we come to final conclusions. But one thing is certain.

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Speaker 1: The Justice Department, for twenty five years has been repeatedly

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Speaker 1: and chronically warned that it's Bureau of Prisons bureaucracy suffered

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Speaker 1: from serious shortcomings. And these warnings began shortly after another

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Speaker 1: famous suicide in prison back in nineteen ninety five and

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, right after the Oklahoma City bombing aftermath, a

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Speaker 1: gentleman named Trentadu hung himself in the jail after being

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Speaker 1: beat up, and the significant failures of the prison bureaucracy

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Speaker 1: to protect him, to properly investigate his death, to administer

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Speaker 1: potential life saving help to him when he was still

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Speaker 1: partially live, mirror so closely what happened to Epstein. And

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Speaker 1: when you read through these twenty five years of Inspector

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Speaker 1: General reports and internal memos, they make clear that the

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Speaker 1: Bureau Prisons hasn't learned much, hasn't changed much in its

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Speaker 1: behavior in twenty five years between these two epic deaths

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Speaker 1: in prison. The words of Epstein I have dirt on

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Speaker 1: powerful people well connected. One of the interesting things the

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Speaker 1: media won't focus on. There was one guy that did

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Speaker 1: stand up to him in a pretty bold, dramatic public fashion,

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Speaker 1: and that was Donald Trump sixteen years ago when he

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Speaker 1: threw Epstein out of moral lago. You know, for all

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Speaker 1: the people speculating though Donald Trump had him killed, the

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Speaker 1: Deborah Messings of the world, I mean, the conspiracy theories

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Speaker 1: are obscene and absurd. But yet, after all we've been

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Speaker 1: through fairly predictable. I guess at this point probably if

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Speaker 1: there was dirt on Donald Trump, I doubt Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: would have publicly humiliated him in the high society of

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Speaker 1: Palm Beach, which, as you and I both know, means

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Speaker 1: so much to so many where you stand in the

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Speaker 1: pecking orders everything. But we also have this issue of

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Speaker 1: guards that are overwork. Now we have reports on the

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Speaker 1: paper today that in fact these guards may very well

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Speaker 1: have been sleeping. There is massive overtime demands that are mandatory,

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Speaker 1: and I know this from my own life and my

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Speaker 1: mother it was mandatory. She does sixteen hours shifts week,

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Speaker 1: seven days a week, week in and week out. You know,

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Speaker 1: how to wake this woman up for her next sixteen

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Speaker 1: hours shifts. He had an alarm clock and when it

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Speaker 1: went off, the whole neighborhood bought a bomb one off

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Speaker 1: in our house. It was the only way she could

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Speaker 1: get up, the only way to get up, because she

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Speaker 1: was so tired. That's how tired these guys are, and

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Speaker 1: because nobody wants to work in these prisons. And one

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Speaker 1: report today that prison guards fell asleep and then they

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Speaker 1: falsified records to cover it up. That's that's it's very

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Speaker 1: similar to what we saw in the Oklahoma City case. Listen.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I found in these memos there

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Speaker 1: are five thousand prison jobs that the Bureau Prisons has

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Speaker 1: had trouble filling over the last couple of years. That's

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Speaker 1: a red flag right there. Right If you're down five

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Speaker 1: thousand staff positions, you know you have to be cutting

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Speaker 1: corners in order to make ends meet. There's going and

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Speaker 1: we can go through many things. Listen. It took ten

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Speaker 1: years for the Bureau Prisons to come with a policy

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Speaker 1: to fight the rapid growth of contraband, which is a

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Speaker 1: way that someone can commit suicide or a crime or

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Speaker 1: murder in prison. Contraband one of the biggest threats to

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Speaker 1: prison guards and to the prison population. Ten years to

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Speaker 1: come up with a plan when they instituted. The ig

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Speaker 1: found boy, it is full of holes. In fact, here's

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Speaker 1: one hole. The cameras that are supposed to protect the

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Speaker 1: guards have giant blind spots, which and the prisoners know

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Speaker 1: what those blind spots are. They can jump someone and

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Speaker 1: never be caught on camera. If you take ten years

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Speaker 1: to build a plan and you still have holes like that,

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Speaker 1: you're not serving the American people. You're right. But John,

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Speaker 1: even further than that, they have the means of installing

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Speaker 1: a camera in every single cell, and in such a

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Speaker 1: way as they're not going to be able to damage

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Speaker 1: the camera, or if they start to try, you'll be

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Speaker 1: able to run in there and stop them. But more importantly,

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Speaker 1: you could have one prison guards, one correction officer watching

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Speaker 1: one hundred cameras, and they'll know if somebody's trying to

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Speaker 1: commit suicide in seconds. What you see here is the

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Speaker 1: neglect of the permanent bureaucracy of the Justice Department, the

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Speaker 1: same bureaucray see that gave us the Sharad that was

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Speaker 1: the Russia investigation. You have people collecting checks and bonuses

647
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Speaker 1: and patting themselves on the back of awards who do

648
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: not do the American people any good. They don't serve,

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00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: They don't use common sense the way you and I

650
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: have to run our businesses in our lives every day.

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Speaker 1: You know, we call it the deef state. We call

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Speaker 1: it the permanent bureaucracy. But at some point, someone like

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Speaker 1: Attorney General bar has to hold these people accountable in

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Speaker 1: a way that's painful. And I believe the Epstein moment

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Speaker 1: is going to be a flashpoint in that accountability process,

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Speaker 1: as is the ongoing John Durham probe and Russia. About

657
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Speaker 1: the Russia case, I think in both places that permanent

658
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: bureaucracy has gotten a free ride, bad performance, rewarding themselves.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be how to account for the first

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Speaker 1: time in a very long time, and all that neglect

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Speaker 1: from the Obama years of the Justice Department and even

662
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: earlier is finally going to be put on the table

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Speaker 1: and fixed. I think that's the big hope for the

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Speaker 1: American people. Well, the problem is is you've got you know,

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Speaker 1: people out there, celebrity they were messing actually saying Trump

666
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Speaker 1: finally made good on his promise to kill someone, shoot

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Speaker 1: someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue or Michael Moore.

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Speaker 1: I guess a country dumb enough to elect Trump is

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Speaker 1: stupid enough to believe that Epstein committed suicide. And they

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Speaker 1: did it, you know, on the traditional Friday night early

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning dunk document dumb time when they know the

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Speaker 1: fewest number of people will follow it. And then Rosie O'Donnell,

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Speaker 1: you know, genius that she is saying, well, Jeffrey Epstein's

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Speaker 1: worms have opened and they will be crawling over some

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Speaker 1: very powerful people. Oh that well, sorry, that was meathead

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Speaker 1: Rob Reiner. But a right, let me move on to

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Speaker 1: the next bit of information. So let me give you

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Speaker 1: what I'm hearing, because while we do compare notes quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. You're busy, I'm busy, and we kind of

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00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: catch up at moments when we're getting to a critical point.

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Speaker 1: Last night, you kind of accidentally on purpose because I

682
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Speaker 1: know you let out of the bag. There's a pretty quickly,

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Speaker 1: didn't you? I did? I mean, unfortunately, you know, our

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Speaker 1: friendship allows for that. I loved it. But we expect

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Speaker 1: maybe the first and what we expect to be what

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Speaker 1: I am told will likely be three separate reports. That's correct.

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Speaker 1: Report number one will be a follow up. This will

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Speaker 1: be from the Inspector General Harrowitz right as it relates

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Speaker 1: to Jim Comey violating the Espionage Act. Yeah, and their

690
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Speaker 1: determination that he was lacking candor, in other words, lying

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Speaker 1: that would be what Papadoppolo's manaphort Cohen We're all charged

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Speaker 1: with and spend time in jail for that is that

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Speaker 1: is what we know. It to be the most minimal

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Speaker 1: by far. It doesn't even compare to the level of

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Speaker 1: what we're heading into. UM the I agree. I think

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Speaker 1: this is the first opening salvo. It's a narrow investigation

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Speaker 1: looking at how James Comey handled his um memos from

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Speaker 1: his meetings with the President about the Russia case, many

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Speaker 1: which were classified, one which was several that were leaked

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Speaker 1: to his lawyers, one leak to the media that had

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Speaker 1: classified information that we already broke the story a couple

702
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. We know that he was referred for prosecution.

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Speaker 1: DOJ declined prosecution because they thought it was a weak case.

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Speaker 1: They're looking at other more serious matters with Komy. Let

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Speaker 1: me stop you here. They thought it was a weak

706
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Speaker 1: case in this sense, they did not want to start

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Speaker 1: with a case that wasn't a guaranteed slam dunk conviction.

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Speaker 1: And as you look at intent, that word intent becomes

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Speaker 1: in a courtroom a word that would have been focused

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00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: on by the defense like a laser beam, and proving

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00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: intent is very difficult to do absolutely and beyond intent.

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Speaker 1: There's a second issue here, which is the classification of

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Speaker 1: the document that was actually leaked to the media, which

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Speaker 1: is the most egregious of the examples in the Komey's

715
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Speaker 1: handling was a document that didn't have markings on it,

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Speaker 1: saying it was classified until after he returned it to

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Speaker 1: the FBI. Now, in fairness, he stole the document from

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Speaker 1: the FBI gave it to his Laura's before it had

719
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: gone through the review process. That's bad conduct, but it's

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Speaker 1: very hard for a jury to say, well, listen, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't mark classified when he leaked it. Art. We get

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Speaker 1: he didn't follow the rules, but we can't prove that

723
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Speaker 1: he knew it was classified when he said it. That's

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Speaker 1: why the prosecutors made the decision they did it. They

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00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: would have made this decision whether it was Jim Comey

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Speaker 1: or Joe Smith, and I think prosecutors would do this

727
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Speaker 1: every day. You have discretion when you realize that a

728
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Speaker 1: jury might not grasp or might not appreciate the nuances

729
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: of the case. God doesn't mean Jim Comey's out out

730
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: of trouble in any way or shape or form. His

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00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: testimony before Congress is still being examined for truthfulness and

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Speaker 1: his conduct in signing that first FISA warrant, what he

733
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: knew before he signed it, what the FBI allowed itself

734
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Speaker 1: to represent that we now know not to be true.

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Speaker 1: Those are things that are more serious issues that I

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Speaker 1: still think linger. Okay, So if we were going to

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Speaker 1: if we were going to name the reports, we would

738
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Speaker 1: say likely Thursday. Not here, it's likely Thursday. That's what

739
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm hearing. Yep, all right, which is the minor comy

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Speaker 1: report by Harowitz. Then we're going to get the full

741
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Speaker 1: Fiser report. What is your timeline for that? That will

742
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: be the one that will perill, beyond any doubt, premeditated

743
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Speaker 1: fraud in order to get a FISA application, denying American

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Speaker 1: citizens their constitutional rights and due process and literally committing

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Speaker 1: a premeditative fraud on the court for also the purposes

746
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Speaker 1: of spying on an opposition party campaign, a president elect

747
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Speaker 1: and then a president of the United States. That will

748
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Speaker 1: be big. That will be I think that will be

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Speaker 1: mid September to early October as the timeframe I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: from people that are in the know. But in between

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Speaker 1: that FISA report in the economy report, there could be

752
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: a second report, an interim report that comes out that

753
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: takes a look at the culture of leaking inside the

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Speaker 1: FBI and the practice of FBI agents allowing for a

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Speaker 1: leak to occur and then using the leaked information. The

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Speaker 1: newspaper or media report that comes from it has potential evidence.

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Speaker 1: They're looking at that as well. That could be a

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Speaker 1: separate report given the breath of evidence I'm told they

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00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: found in that practice. So that would be the circular

760
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: reporting that we've discussed off, and that would be their

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Speaker 1: media allies, conspiracy theorist hacks like oh, let's say Michael Isikoff,

762
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: who's a conspiracy theorist and propagandist who just prints whatever

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Speaker 1: that he's told to print. I actually am hearing something

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Speaker 1: a little different. Will compare notes, will come back, John Solomon,

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Speaker 1: Executive vice president of The Hill Investigative Reporter, And we

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Speaker 1: are awaiting what will be at least three reports maybe now,

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Speaker 1: based on what he's telling me for But we'll take

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Speaker 1: a break, we'll come back, We'll continue right as we

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Speaker 1: continue with John Solomon, investigative reporter, Executive Vice President of

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Speaker 1: the Hill. All Right, so you're saying that the second

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00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: report again Thursday, we expect the Komy stuff, which we

772
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: pretty much already know. There might be one on the

773
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: systemic leaking that's separate and apart from what I had

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00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: known was going to be. Apart, then we've got the

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00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: FIA Inspector General report, which full show premeditated fraud after

776
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: numerous warnings that the information paid for by Hillary was

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Speaker 1: false and they purposely misled a FISA chord on multiple occasions.

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Speaker 1: But I also know that there is an undertaking that

779
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: has been going on all through Europe, and that in

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00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: this undertaking we might be getting to the origins of

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00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: the Russia Trump conspiracy, and it might involve top intelligence

782
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: people that were outs or sourcing intelligence gathering, spying on

783
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: Americans to our allied spying agencies, things that they knew

784
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: would be illegal for them to do, and that these

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00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: agencies fully participated in. And there was some type of

786
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: reciprocity going on, which means the powerful tools of intelligence

787
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: were turned on the American people by some very high

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Speaker 1: ranking intelligence people. Yeah, listen, a few weeks ago, Attorney

789
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Speaker 1: General bar used a very specific term I've never heard

790
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 1: used before, political surveillance. How do they term that doesn't

791
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: belong in a lexicon of the Justice Department or the

792
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: FBI or the intelligence community here in America. There is

793
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: some suggestion that efforts were initiated overseas, either with the

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00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: encouragement or wink of the United States, to spy on

795
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: certain political figures bring intelligence in that would create the

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00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: basis for an investigation. A lot of work needs to

797
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: be done before we nail down the facts on that,

798
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: but there is clearly an inquiry looking at this sort

799
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Speaker 1: of loose network of foreign private foreign country intelligence agencies

800
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: were working loosely with US intelligence perhaps to carry out

801
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: this dirty trick that was carried out on Donald Trump

802
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: during the twenty sixteen election. Now I have some breaking

803
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: news for him. Just a few minutes ago, the Justice

804
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: Department has released the memos that Nelly or prepared for

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00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: her husband Bruce to give to the Justice Department in

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00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: the FBI. When people read these memos, they're going to

807
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: roll their eyes. You want to talk about tinfoil hat

808
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: conspiracy data. These spreadsheets that were put together on Manafort

809
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump's hideous connections to Russia as they're portrayed

810
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: in they're laughable. Most of them were laughed out of

811
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: the box by the Muller investigation. But for the first

812
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: time we now know exactly what Nelli or contractor for

813
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: Fusion GPS, and Hillary Clinton divided her husband and used

814
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: her husband as a conduit to get dirt on Trump

815
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: to the FBI during and after the election. And when

816
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: people read what it is, you'll wonder why the FBI

817
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: ever accepted this information in the beginning. It's very troubling stuff.

818
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Speaker 1: Another example of that conflict of interest we've been talking about.

819
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Speaker 1: Stay right there, John Solomon, investigative reporter, Executive Vice President

820
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: of The Hill, will keep him onto the other side

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Speaker 1: of this break all right, twenty five now till the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour, eight hundred and nine four one

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Speaker 1: Sean our toll free telephone number. He is gracious, elely

824
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: agreed to stay longer with us, Our friend, John Solomon,

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00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: Investigative reporter, Executive Vice president of The Hill. We gave

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Speaker 1: you as breaking news on the systemic prison problems that

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00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: have now gone on for decades and have not been

828
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Speaker 1: resolved on the federal level. And eerie similarities to other

829
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Speaker 1: suicides that had taken place twenty twenty five, thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: But also we are awaiting the first of what will

831
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Speaker 1: be at least three reports of abuse of power and corruption,

832
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: maybe as early as even tomorrow. As relates to James Comy,

833
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: this is information we kind of knew about, but now

834
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: we'll get the formal inspector General report on Comy. The

835
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Speaker 1: information that was in fact classified that he took to

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Speaker 1: his own home a month after he left office. The

837
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Speaker 1: home was rated by his former employees at the FBI.

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00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: He was apparently interrogated at the time, and those documents

839
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: had no right being there. Those are the documents that

840
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: he ultimately leaked to his journalist friend of Columbia, his

841
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: professor friend, who then was told to leak to The

842
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: New York Times for the stated purpose of getting a

843
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: special counsel appointed, which happened to be his BF Robert Muller,

844
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Speaker 1: who had been applying for the job that Comy left

845
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Speaker 1: or was fired from, just the day before he became

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Speaker 1: special counsel, Which is a conflict in and of itself anyway,

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Speaker 1: So we expect that report tomorrow. As John just explained

848
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Speaker 1: in the last half hour. It no real bombshells here.

849
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: My sources telling me that there's a reason. They have

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00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: found evidence that in fact, the Espionage Act was violated

851
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: by keeping those classified documents, and that Comy himself showed

852
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: a lack of candor, which means he lied to the

853
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: FBI correct absolutely certainly wasn't forthcoming. I think the actual

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00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: allegation that the report focuses on, I'm told is the

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00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: fact that when the FBI came, his own agents came

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Speaker 1: to pick up these documents Sean that he had taken

857
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: from the FBI improperly, he failed to tell them that

858
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: they weren't only in his possession, that he leaked them

859
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: to other people. So that delayed the FBI from discovering

860
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: for some time that there was a leak of this

861
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: classified information beyond just James Comey removing him from his office.

862
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: So that's the lack of candor. It's a lack of

863
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: candor biomission. But when you're the former FBI director, you

864
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: owe it to your bureau to tell your agents, who

865
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: work hard every day, everything you did with something. When

866
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: you know they came to your house, you get to

867
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: collect something that you shouldn't have had in your possession.

868
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: It's one of the things that I think will come

869
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: out in that report as early as tomorrow. I want

870
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: to stay on this and we'll go through each of

871
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: the items individually, because I don't want people, we don't

872
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: give false hope to people, and we're not raising people's expectations.

873
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: We know exactly what this portion on Thursday we expect

874
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: will be released is going to deal specifically and only

875
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: with this issue of comy. And in fact, they did

876
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: recommend a potential charges in this case the Attorney General

877
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: had denied. Now there are mixed reports from sources I

878
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: have that that referral for potential prosecution was not even

879
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: denied by Bar, but that decision had been made prior

880
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: to Bar's arrival. I've heard that. I don't know it

881
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: to be true, do you. What I do know is

882
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: that the recommendation had been floating around in surface with

883
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: many people, but the final decision was made after Bar

884
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: was Attorney General. But here it doesn't matter when everybody

885
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: inside the Justice Department was in agreement that this was

886
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: not the sort of case you should bring in. Here's

887
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why if James Comey stole these documents,

888
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: lee classified information, and he gets acquitted. It sends a

889
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: terrible message to the rest of the bureaucracy about the

890
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: handling of classified information. You bring these cases one to

891
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: punish the person too, to send a message to others

892
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: who might be tempted to do the same thing. And

893
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: this didn't have as sort of circumstances that a jury

894
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: would likely convict on it, So you don't take that risk.

895
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: There are many other Melka So we're hearing the exact

896
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: same thing. Then we're going to have the Michael Horowitz report.

897
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: This has been delayed because of new circumstances. We now

898
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: know that Durham spent some sixteen hours finally Christopher Steele,

899
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: who again the bulk of information the Grassley, Graham and

900
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: Nunez memos pointed out, and the applications the original application

901
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: in October twenty sixteen, the three subsequent applications thereafter, three

902
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: of the four signed by James Comey himself. But the

903
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: bulk of information was the phony dossier. And to reinforce

904
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: your reporting, you're the one that discovered. Everybody at the

905
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: Justice Department and the FBI at the highest levels were

906
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: warned not to try that information Hillary had paid for

907
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: the dossier was unverified, and Steele had a political agenda

908
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: hating Donald Trump. At the top of a FISA application

909
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: is the word verified. That would mean a premeditated fraud

910
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: committed on a court for the purposes of getting a

911
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: backdoor channel into the Trump campaign, the Trump transition and

912
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: later Trump presidency. And also denying Carter Page. And I

913
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: don't think this is insignificant his constitutional due process right.

914
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: That there's a document that doesn't get a lot of

915
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: focused on that is so potentially powerful and understanding how

916
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: far off the FBI was from its normal means when

917
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: they shut down Christopher Steele. They did what's known a

918
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: human source validation report, what they thought of Christopher Steele,

919
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: his body of work. And here is what that report,

920
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: which a lot of people haven't looked at. It's released

921
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: under FOY a long time ago. It's so powerful. It

922
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: said that his information was only minimally corroborated, meaning they

923
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: didn't corroborate most of what he ever told them, too,

924
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: that they only had a medium offence in the quality

925
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: of his work. To know that that's where the FBI

926
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: ended up with Christopher Steele. And yet to go into

927
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: the court before that and tell the court this is

928
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: a solid guy. We have every reason, we have no

929
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: derogatory information about him. Trust us when we say we

930
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: verified this stuff about carter Page. That's why you got

931
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: to let us spy on carter Page. It really shows

932
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: how far from the truth the FBI was in that application.

933
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: And when James Comey signed his name to that application,

934
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: he extended that fraud, He extended that misinformation, He extended

935
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: that inappropriate contact with the court in a way that

936
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: should never have happened. He holds the ball on that

937
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: first fison. Okay, and then we've got now you're saying

938
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: you believe there might be another report that I'm not

939
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: that acutely aware of that would involve the systemic leaking

940
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: of classified, top secret information. I think this might go

941
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: back to your original reporting with me and that involved

942
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: and that was in March of what year, twenty seventeen. Okay,

943
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: which would be surveillance, legal unmasking. Leaking of raw intelligence

944
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: is over the target on that, that's right, And in

945
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: some cases it might not even be classified information they're leaking.

946
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: But if they leak something so that they then can

947
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: turn around and pretend it's evidence that they found independently.

948
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: It creates that circular reporting we've been talking about. We

949
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: know that one on with Christopher Steele, Christopher Steele and

950
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: Simpson leaked information. The FBI then used an article based

951
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 1: on that leak, the Yahoo article by Issokov, to support

952
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: its FISA warrant, when they knew it came from the

953
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: very source that they that was Christopher Steele. That culture

954
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: of leaking, in that possible activity of using leaks to

955
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: further warrants and court filings is something that the Inspector

956
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: General's looking at, and I'm hearing that he's found enough

957
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: and he might spin off a singular report just on

958
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: that culture of leaking. Okay, Now the next aspect of

959
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: this is that then we have again, so number one

960
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: is to call me. We know that Thursday, number two

961
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: is the big Horowitz FISA investigation. Premeditative fraud, commits it

962
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: on a court. I've got to believe that there will

963
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: be people that will be charged in that case. Certainly

964
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: there should be a grand jury put forward. I would

965
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: expect charges, would you. I'll wait to see. So far,

966
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: I've seen no evidence of a criminal action, meaning the

967
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: impanelment of a grand jury. This is getting subpoenas. So, Hey, John,

968
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: are you saying that they might get away with premeditated

969
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: fraud committed on a FISA court for the purpose of

970
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: spying on a presidential campaign transition in presidency? They might

971
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: get away with that without being charged. No. Here's what

972
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: I'll say is that right now, at this point early

973
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: in the Durham case, there's no sign as a reporter

974
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: that I would be looking for that there's a criminal

975
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: grand jury going on. We don't hear of a grand jury.

976
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: We haven't heard subpoenas. But listen, at the beginning of

977
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: an investigation, the first thing you do is you get

978
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: all your facts together. That's why they've been in Europe.

979
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: When they come back from Europe. If they impanel a

980
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: grand jury, then you can begin to infer they found

981
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: criminal activity. If we're three months from now still no

982
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: grand jury, I think as a reporter, my professional assessment

983
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: would be it doesn't look like they're going criminal on this.

984
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: It's early. Remember or Durham only got this assignment a

985
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. There's a mammoth amount of evidence

986
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: to review that had never really been looked at in

987
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: the Rosenstein Sessions Justice Department, and I think we should

988
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: hold our powder watch what happens. But for the public,

989
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: what we ought to all be looking for the first

990
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: grand jury subpoenas. That will be the first and most

991
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: declarative sign that there could be criminal culpability in the

992
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: Russia case. All right, now, this is where we now have,

993
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: all of this time that has been spent abroad by

994
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, by the prosecutor from Massachusetts, smister Durham.

995
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: And what I'm hearing is at the end of the

996
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: FAISA report from the Inspector General that things have gone

997
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: a lot deeper and gotten a lot more, a lot

998
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: more corruption and a lot more abusive power has been

999
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: uncovered and will be exposed. And what I'm suggesting is

1000
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: you're suggesting a third report that might involve leaking. I'm

1001
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: suggesting a third report that might involve things way beyond

1002
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: this in terms of the origins of the Russia investigation,

1003
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: the use of foreign intelligence services to spy on Americans,

1004
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: the outsourcing of that which would be illegal by our

1005
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: own intelligence officials, done on purpose for the purpose of

1006
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: impacting a presidential election, and on seating a duly elected president,

1007
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: and that the people at the highest levels in the

1008
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: intelligence community under Barack Obama and Joe Biden are the

1009
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: ones that would be held responsible for that. And that

1010
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: called the Durham Report, the Bar Report, the Bar Durham Report,

1011
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: that that would be the explosive one. Yeah, And I

1012
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: think what's most important about that is, remember, the Justice

1013
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: Department Inspector General can only look at Justice Department employee conduct.

1014
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: You've got NSA, CIA, many other intelligence assets, maybe foreign

1015
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: allies or foreign private intelligence corporations like Orbis and others

1016
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: that were involved. The great thing about the Durham Bar

1017
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: investigation is that it's far more expansive than what the

1018
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: Inspector General Justice can look at. And I would expect

1019
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: that the Bar Durham report will be the final word,

1020
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: the most comprehensive word. It will incorporate what the IG found,

1021
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: what we learned from the great Congressional investigations, and then

1022
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: all the stuff that went on in Europe that now

1023
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: seems to be the most important and new focal point

1024
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: of this intelligence review. When you hear the word political

1025
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: surveillance used by our Attorney general, he's signaling he has

1026
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: found something very troubling that's a very explosive term to

1027
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: be using. Okay, now, listening closely as you have been doing,

1028
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: I've been doing my own little digging here. We all

1029
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: have our own little sources that we get information from.

1030
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: Sure that to me might actually be the lynch pit

1031
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: to all of it. And it actually would fit because

1032
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: it would go back to your original reporting about surveillance, unmasking,

1033
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: leaking raw intelligence on a level that I don't think

1034
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: in March of twenty seventeen either of us thought we'd

1035
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: get to. Yeah, when you look at the smartest people

1036
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: on this the people that have looked at the classified

1037
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: information that you and I can't see, people like Devin Nunez,

1038
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: they have always suggested that there was an intelligence operation,

1039
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: possible that an intelligence operation preceded the FBI opening its

1040
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,439
Speaker 1: formal case on July thirty, twenty sixteen. That's why there's

1041
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: these questions about the professor's missuit and helper and other

1042
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: people who are getting involved with Carter Page and George

1043
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: popadappas long before there was an FBI investigation. Alexander Downer,

1044
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 1: I think it's that period of time, I would say

1045
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:26,479
Speaker 1: February to June of twenty sixteen that the Bar review

1046
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: is digging in on because it's gotten no scrutiny up

1047
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: to this point. That could be some of the most

1048
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: explosive and interesting information about where people might have been

1049
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: coloring outside the line. We don't know yet, but there

1050
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: are certainly hints that people were in the intelligence community,

1051
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: private or government or coloring outside the lines. And that's

1052
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: where I think Bill bar is going to finish his

1053
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: investigation in that space of time. So maybe the Durham

1054
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: Bar report at the end that would be perhaps even

1055
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: the most explosive, certainly going to be the most comprehensive

1056
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: and most important, because at the end of the day,

1057
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: you want your intelligence communtee working the right way, not

1058
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: cheating an intervie meeting an American election. Yeah, that would

1059
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: be pretty bad. And I think it all happened, and

1060
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: it's all going to be revealed, all right. John Solomon,

1061
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: investigative reporter, Executive vice president for The Hill, right a

1062
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: final moments. I didn't think this was going to last

1063
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: the full hour, but our friend John Solomon, investigative reporter,

1064
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: executive vice president for The Hill. Okay, so assuming let's

1065
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: go through timelines, last thing here, so we expect maybe

1066
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: Thursday the Komy stuff that has to do with the

1067
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: documents we already know about. Then it's going to be

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Speaker 1: the the Horowitz Spiser report, which we expect to be

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Speaker 1: very damning, and then we might have a separate investigation

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Speaker 1: and report on the leaking, and we might have an

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Speaker 1: even bigger explosive report on the abuse of intelligence spying

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Speaker 1: on Americans, outsourcing intelligence gathering, and spying on Americans buy

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Speaker 1: our allies. That matches everything that I'm hearing on the inside.

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Speaker 1: Now that things can change in these investigations. Right if

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Speaker 1: a criminal inquiry begins, the bar Durham report could be

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Speaker 1: delayed until criminal prosecutions occur. But right now, the sequencing

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Speaker 1: is exactly as you have laid it out, Sean. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm hearing from Justice Department officials, from FBI officials,

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Speaker 1: and others that I talked to. I think the period

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Speaker 1: of September to December will be a very exposive time

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Speaker 1: of revelation and really launch a discussion about what we

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Speaker 1: want our intelligence community to do and what we don't

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Speaker 1: want them to do in future elections. I suspect one

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Speaker 1: of the big headlines we will get out of this

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Speaker 1: regardless of prosecutions or anything else, is that there will

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Speaker 1: be new rules imposed on the Justice Department, the Intelligence community,

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Speaker 1: the FBI about when they get involved with something that

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Speaker 1: comes from a rival campaign, when they get involved into elections.

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Speaker 1: Those things were clearly missing in the Obama administration. That

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Speaker 1: blindness led us to two and a half years of

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Speaker 1: wasted investigation. Really great opportunity now to make sure this

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Speaker 1: never happens again. All right, John Solomon, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for being with us. We'll have the latest on all

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Speaker 1: of these developments tonight on Hannity, but we expect that

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Speaker 1: first piece to come out tomorrow. Eight hundred Ninefold one.

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Speaker 1: Shaun is on number our News round Up, Information Overload,

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party, the media, Democrats in general are in a

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Speaker 1: full panic over Joe Biden's meltdown. And of course then

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Speaker 1: you have Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris saying that Michael

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Speaker 1: Brown was murdered. No, that's not true either. Quick break

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Speaker 1: right back. We'll continue stay right here for our final

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Speaker 1: news round up and Information Overload in the final hour

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Speaker 1: of the Sean Hannity Show. If you agree with me,

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Speaker 1: go to Joe three three three oh and help me

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Speaker 1: in this fight. I watch what happened when the kids

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Speaker 1: from Parkland marched up to and I met with him,

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Speaker 1: and then they went off to up in the hill

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Speaker 1: as vice president, and they went off the hill to

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Speaker 1: go into those neighborhoods. And you don't know my state,

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Speaker 1: My state was a slave state. My state is a

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Speaker 1: border state. My state is the eighth largest black population

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Speaker 1: in the country. He got the first, ye sort of

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Speaker 1: marical America. Who is our kicking and brave clean I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's a story. You're gonna put y'all back in change,

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Speaker 1: all right? There it is. There is a meltdown, the

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Speaker 1: head of the Iowa Democratic Party stating publicly they're pretty

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Speaker 1: much every Democrat in Iowa and they want a more

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Speaker 1: establishment Democratic candidate and a full panic over Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: disastrous weekend. Now three o three oh is just the

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Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg. I mean, you're talking about a

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Speaker 1: gaff machine of you know, poor kids are just as

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Speaker 1: bright as white kids. You know, it's the first time ever,

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Speaker 1: I mean that you have an African American that's articulate

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Speaker 1: and bright and clean. Wow, that's storybook man. And then

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Speaker 1: of course we have him mistakenly saying he was vice

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Speaker 1: president meeting the kids after the Parkland shooting. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: vice president in twenty eighteen. We choose truth over facts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got that one. You can't go to a Dungan

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Speaker 1: Donans or a seven eleven unless you have a slight

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Speaker 1: Indian accent. His state is a slave state. We're not

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Speaker 1: like those Northeastern states. No liberal states. No, this state

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Speaker 1: was a slave state. Uh. And it goes on and

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Speaker 1: on and on, and you have to wonder, well, did

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden lose his fastball or did he even really

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Speaker 1: ever have one? But five major gaffs in one weekend

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Speaker 1: has put real fear and panic into the hearts of

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. Anyway, glad you with US News round

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Speaker 1: Up Information Overload. Our Ari Fleischer is with US media

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Speaker 1: consultant Political Aid. I don't know how he did it.

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01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: He was once the press secretary for President George W. Bush.

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01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: I think the hardest job of anybody in Washington ever

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01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: to deal with these idiots in the media mob. How

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Speaker 1: are you? How did you handle that without like one

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01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: day not unloading on them. I mean, I mean you

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Speaker 1: must have the patience of Joe. But I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: I could not do that job. Well, you know, Sean

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01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: reporters love Republicans and so it was an easy job. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: balls at me all day long. I would return them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah bush light and people died. I know, here we go, Um,

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Speaker 1: there we go. You know, it is funny. I know

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Speaker 1: that you even you have said, you know, maybe Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump shouldn't fight back as often as he should. I

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01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: don't think people look at the other side of the

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01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: equation though. Um, you know, just look at like yesterday

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Speaker 1: or in the last week, he has a plan to

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Speaker 1: exterminate Latinos. That was said by a host on NBC

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Speaker 1: or you know on crazy Liberal Morning Joe that the

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Speaker 1: administration is openly trying to keep America a majority white

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Speaker 1: country or Julian Castro. They're clearly trying to establish a

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Speaker 1: wider nation. And you look at manufactured crisis, manufactured crisis,

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01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: stormy stormy racist, racist, Russia, Russia, impeachment, impeachment, and you

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01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: just see this this rage, psychosis, hatred that is every second, minute,

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Speaker 1: hour of the day. It's never been this bad. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trump fights back, but nobody talks aboutter how often he

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Speaker 1: gets it. Look, I wrestle with this a latch on

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Speaker 1: because I think it's the biggest criticism I've heard about

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Speaker 1: Republican style that Trump, thank goodness, fights back and there's

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Speaker 1: merits to that, but there's not merit to it every day.

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Speaker 1: And here's what I'm getting at. Nobody in politics will

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Speaker 1: ever make the loon he's on the left go away.

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Speaker 1: Trump won't, Bush won't. Trump successors won't. Nobody will. They'll

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Speaker 1: be out there saying these ridiculous things like Biden said

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Speaker 1: about put y'all back in chains. It doesn't matter, well

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Speaker 1: you are, they'll say it. Issue to me with the president, though,

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Speaker 1: is does he sometimes fight back well and when the day?

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Speaker 1: Or does he sometimes fight back so hard by pulverizing

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Speaker 1: his opponent that, particularly for suburban college had women and

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Speaker 1: people in suburbs. Republicans are losing those people. Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: is losing those people, gay men. An election without those people.

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Speaker 1: So it's a question of the Grecian I wanted to

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Speaker 1: fight back, and I think without his personality, and never

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Speaker 1: have a president who takes on China the way he's

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Speaker 1: doing it, No smooth talking politician ever do it. So

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01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: there are things about his person but didn't America that

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Speaker 1: also make them effective, they're also things that can go

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Speaker 1: too far, and it ought to be said. Listen, I

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Speaker 1: think the people that have gone the furthest over the edge,

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Speaker 1: it's a combination there. They literally tied at the hip,

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Speaker 1: which would be the media mob that just rages, you know,

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Speaker 1: just every single day. We've had two and a half

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Speaker 1: years of lies, propaganda, conspiracy theories, all proven false. They

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Speaker 1: still can't let it go and then they just move

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Speaker 1: on to the next talking point that happens to be

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Speaker 1: coordinated with the Democratic Party. But I think the American

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Speaker 1: people knew full well who they were electing. They were

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Speaker 1: electing an iconic, clastic outsider and a disruptor that was

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Speaker 1: going to take on the whole sore swamp culture of Washington,

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Speaker 1: and he was going to break a lot of dishes.

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Speaker 1: And I think the guy that has kept every promise,

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Speaker 1: tax cuts, cutting and ending burdensome bureaucracy, originalist ustices, fighting

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Speaker 1: for the wall, making us energy independent, better trade deals,

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Speaker 1: you know, go down the list. This guy fought for

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Speaker 1: every one of the promises he made, which I can't

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of most politicians don't do that.

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Speaker 1: They don't fight that hard. And I think people now

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Speaker 1: are grown accustomed to his style. Agree with everything you

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Speaker 1: just said. But here's what you even better. He does

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Speaker 1: everything you just said without having said about four congressmen,

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Speaker 1: go back to the country where you came from and

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Speaker 1: improve those countries before you come and criticize me without Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get we gotta get that comment right. He says,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, you can go back to the country

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Speaker 1: came from, fix it and then and then come back

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Speaker 1: and then come back and show us how. That's what

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Speaker 1: I just said. Okay, it would been better if he

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Speaker 1: never said go back to the countries where you dot dot.

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Speaker 1: It would just would have been better, because what happens

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Speaker 1: when you talk like that, you send a signal to

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Speaker 1: other people who are immigrants or first generation Americans? Am

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Speaker 1: I supposed to go back if I disagree with the president?

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Speaker 1: Is he targeting me? It's not just about those four conressmiths.

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Speaker 1: The signals you send to others in society. Well, hang on,

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Speaker 1: aren't we dealing with a bigger issue? Though? When you

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Speaker 1: talk there is a foundation to this, a virulent anti semitism.

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Speaker 1: Harsh cut. Well, it seemed like sympathetic comments to radical

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Speaker 1: groups that want to destroy Us and Israel again this

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Speaker 1: context and texture to everything. And the President has been

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Speaker 1: very clear many many other times that he wants the

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Speaker 1: wall to stop the ninety percent of heroin and the

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Speaker 1: cartels and you know, the MS thirteen types from getting in,

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Speaker 1: but he wants a big door so that immigrants can

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Speaker 1: come in. And he said that, and how many times

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Speaker 1: all agree with, all agree with. My point is, if

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Speaker 1: you're coaching a baseball team and your team hit a

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Speaker 1: bunch of home runs and is doing really good things well,

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01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: but they made three errors. You work on those errors

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01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: during the week. You drill so you don't make the

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Speaker 1: same errors again. You keep hitting your homers, but you

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01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: got to stop making the I'll concede the point. Let

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Speaker 1: me concede your point. I would say that every one

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Speaker 1: of us can learn and do better, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's realistic. In Trump's case, this in to this

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Speaker 1: extent that he's gonna fight all day for what he

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Speaker 1: promised the American people, and he's gonna get hammered the

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Speaker 1: way he gets hammered. Look, I thought George W. Bush

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Speaker 1: got the crappiet out of him every single day. And

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Speaker 1: George W. Bush, much to my chagrin didn't fight back harder.

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Speaker 1: I know him to be a nice, good decent man.

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: Mitt Romney is a nice, good decent man. And they

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Speaker 1: still said he was a racist and a misogynist and

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01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: a horrible person, and a false caricature was painted against him.

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Speaker 1: They did the same thing to a guy they said

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Speaker 1: they liked, John McCain. John McCain ran for president. John

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Speaker 1: McCain got the crap kicked out of him by the media,

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Speaker 1: and then when he became a little anti Republican again,

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Speaker 1: he was loved by the people that called him racist

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Speaker 1: and everything in between. So this this is a very

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Speaker 1: predictable pattern that Democrats use. Used to be every two

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Speaker 1: and four years. Now it seems like it's every day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I don't disagree with anything you said. There Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on all of that, and we're probably

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Speaker 1: a lot closer than soundly Sean. I really do think

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Speaker 1: the difference comes down to finesse hit your homers, be tough,

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01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: but don't do anything that goes too far. And I

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Speaker 1: submit to you for every time, for every five homers

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Speaker 1: he hits, one time he goes too far. That's it.

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Speaker 1: I actually I don't think that's bad advice at all.

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I think. I think what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: And what frustrates me about Republicans is that, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you a quick example. How many votes did we have

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Speaker 1: to repeal and replace Obamacare when they knew that Obama

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Speaker 1: was never going to go along with it and they'd

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Speaker 1: never pass it. What sixty sixty five seventy votes? And

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Speaker 1: the Senate in twenty fifteen they pass a complete, clean

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Speaker 1: repeal bill. Then when it matters, seven of those Republicans,

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Speaker 1: when they had the chance to do it and Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump would assigned it, seven of those Republicans backed off.

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Speaker 1: They didn't really mean it. And what I see is

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Speaker 1: in the Republican Party, I see a lot of weakness.

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Speaker 1: I don't see the passion to fulfill promises and advance

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Speaker 1: the country and get the job done. And I see

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Speaker 1: the President out there often alone doing the heavy lift

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Speaker 1: of really trying to implement the conservative policies that Mitt

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Speaker 1: Romney said he stood for. But he didn't win. And

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Speaker 1: it's frustrating to see the internal fight from people like him.

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Speaker 1: And he can go on to other issues as well,

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Speaker 1: moving the embassy to Jerusalem. He's done a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that we've all dreamed about that politicians talk about

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Speaker 1: and never do. And that's one of the reasons I've

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Speaker 1: warned to President Trump. It's one of the reasons I

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Speaker 1: recognize it. Maybe rhetorically he can go too far, but

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Speaker 1: look at his policies. Look how effective they've been, Look

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Speaker 1: how successful they are, and look how tough he has

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Speaker 1: been where we need to be tough. And I mier

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Speaker 1: that and I like that. So I think Trump is

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Speaker 1: winning people over. But at the same time, I look

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Speaker 1: at elections as saying, you got to win over a majority.

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Speaker 1: You can't come close. You can't get forty seven or

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Speaker 1: forty eight percent. Here you get forty nine or fifty

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Speaker 1: percent or fifty one percent. And it's right on these

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Speaker 1: margins that you can lose a close election. And I

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Speaker 1: want him to win. So I'm not going to be

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Speaker 1: afraid to criticize him when I think he's done something

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01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: that hurts himself and sends a wrong signal. And I

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Speaker 1: do recognize he is up against really a democratic media complex,

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Speaker 1: the degree of which the press goes to minimize and

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Speaker 1: soften what the Democrats do wrong, and that to pounce

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Speaker 1: on the president is fierce it's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: that he calls him a fake news. He's tired of them.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame him for that, But if I was

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Speaker 1: on the inside giving him advice, I would try to

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Speaker 1: point out, and it's in effect if nobody can give

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Speaker 1: him advice, I think. But I would try to say,

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Speaker 1: you gotta just be wise in your criticisms, so you

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Speaker 1: don't have to pulverize your opponents. You need to be

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Speaker 1: your opponents. I'd say it a different way. I think

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Speaker 1: you're right, and a lot of your I think I

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Speaker 1: don't even think it's really criticism. I just think it's

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Speaker 1: stylistic differences. And I would say, we don't need to

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Speaker 1: hear every thought that crosses his head. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's probably the true of everybody. Will take a break

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Speaker 1: more with Ari Fleischer, former press secretary for President George W. Bush,

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Speaker 1: now owning his own consultancy company and doing very very well.

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Speaker 1: Quick break right back, and we'll continue right as we continue.

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Speaker 1: Ari Fleischer is with US media consultant political aide. He

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Speaker 1: was also a White House Press secretary. I look at

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Speaker 1: this crop of twenty twenty Democratic hopefuls, and I see

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Speaker 1: the most radical, the most extreme, those that have bought

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Speaker 1: into some version of the New Green Deal, which would

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Speaker 1: to me be a disaster for the country. And I

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Speaker 1: don't see anybody. I think the hopes had always been

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Speaker 1: on Joe Biden, but we see Gaff after Gaff. I

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Speaker 1: think there is a very public reevaluation of whether or

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Speaker 1: not Biden's up to this task. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: is personally David Axel or out hinted he doesn't think

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Speaker 1: so either. What are your thoughts on it? I love campaigns,

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Speaker 1: and this is one reason why, because people get to

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Speaker 1: see the American people get to see for themselves what

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Speaker 1: their choices are, and the presidential level, you really can't hide.

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Speaker 1: People see your flaws and your strengths. And we're seeing

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Speaker 1: a lot of flaws on the Democratic side, and their

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Speaker 1: flaws begin with their ideas for America. They are a

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Speaker 1: party that has increasingly moved into an overwhelmingly socialistic redistribute

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Speaker 1: give everything out for free direction and it's the ruination

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Speaker 1: of America if you go too far down that Roadus

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01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: are all pushing my goodness, they said at the debates,

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Speaker 1: and raise their hands as somebody who enters America illegally.

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01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: This morning should get government provided, taxpayer paid for health

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Speaker 1: insurance this afternoon. How bad would that be for America?

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01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: So we're seeing their ideas on display, abolished private insurance.

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Speaker 1: It's the whole socialistic agenda that they've all fallen for,

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Speaker 1: and they're advocating these debates are the best thing to

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Speaker 1: ever happen to Republicans. Who do you think it? Ultimately

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Speaker 1: twins that who do you think is the front runner now?

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Speaker 1: And if you had to make a prediction who, Well,

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Speaker 1: I do think Biden will collapse, and then I think

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Speaker 1: it's likely going to be either Sanders, Warren or foot Edge.

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Speaker 1: I don't rule him out. Somebody's got to fill the

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Speaker 1: the Biden void, which I think is inevitable, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody can answer that yet because too many

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Speaker 1: future events will define it. Those are going to be

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Speaker 1: their debates. But I do know is going back through history.

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Speaker 1: You know, Republicans sixteen candidates run in twenty fifteen sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Five of them dropped out in twenty fifteen, the year

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Speaker 1: before the election, So we're gonna have a number of

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Speaker 1: Democrats drop out here in twenty nineteen, and then as

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Speaker 1: the field whittles, that's where Biden becomes most vulnerable. I agree,

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Speaker 1: all right, Ari Fleischer, as always your insight. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being with us, eight hundred and nine for one Seawan

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Speaker 1: Tolfree telephone number, we have Mark Ferman. At the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the hour, we'll dig a little deeper into this Epstein,

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Speaker 1: the irregularities as the Attorney General has said, and all

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Speaker 1: that's gone on here and what the FBI is up to.

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Speaker 1: All right, twenty five now to the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: We've been monitoring the situation out of Philly and hoping

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Speaker 1: that the initial reports were not true. It turns out,

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Speaker 1: in fact, they are at least four Philly police officers shot.

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Speaker 1: We now have a massive police presence in and around

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Speaker 1: the Temple University section of Philadelphia. It's the section you know,

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Speaker 1: in the Nicetown section of Philly. According to officials, a

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Speaker 1: massive police response has now descended in the area of

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Speaker 1: North Philly. At least one of the suspects is in custody.

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Speaker 1: Numerous reports we don't want to rush the reporting on

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Speaker 1: this as ever, but numerous reports that one of the

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Speaker 1: gunmen may in fact be hold up inside of a

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Speaker 1: nearby building, and the police are acting as if that

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Speaker 1: in fact is the case. This all happening in the

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Speaker 1: last half hour. The audio that has been obtained I

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Speaker 1: heard in one of the reports came in from a

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Speaker 1: panicked officer and officer calls for everything you've got swat

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Speaker 1: long gun. A law enforcement officer can be heard saying

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Speaker 1: on the audio officers shot, officer shot. Skyforce ten was

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Speaker 1: over the scene as an unidentified gunman firing well with

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Speaker 1: some have reported as hundreds of shots, others firing, and

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Speaker 1: local news coverage there in Philly saying dozens of shots

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Speaker 1: being fired nearly thirty minutes into this whole thing, and

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Speaker 1: as the police officers then descended on the corner of

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Speaker 1: fifteenth and Butler Streets in downtown Philly, you can see

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Speaker 1: the officers and crouched positions behind cars, blocked off surrounding streets.

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Speaker 1: And at this point we just don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: contained yet, but we do know that at least four

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Speaker 1: police officers we can report have in fact been shot.

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Speaker 1: One report, again I don't want to get out ahead

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Speaker 1: of this, is that one officer was shot in the head.

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Speaker 1: You hope, I hope and pray that God that's not true. Um,

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Speaker 1: but that was the report from one of the news

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Speaker 1: services that is out there. A lockdown is also in

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Speaker 1: effect a Temple University's Health Sciences Center campus, and the

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Speaker 1: school put out an alert for their students to take

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Speaker 1: shelter in the place. The story is just developing as

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Speaker 1: we speak. Uh, Linda, what are you hearing on your

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Speaker 1: and you're talking about here? I can't hear. Yeah, sorry

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Speaker 1: about that. So you know, I'm actually from Philly, as

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Speaker 1: most people know, you know this area. We want to

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Speaker 1: describe the area because this is some of this area

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Speaker 1: is not a nice part of Philly, and then in

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Speaker 1: other parts that has been in the Nicetown is not

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Speaker 1: a nice area. Tioga, it's a tough name bhood. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of drugs, a lot of poverty. You know, people,

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Speaker 1: how far away did you grow up from there? About

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes, So it's it's this is not a good neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: And I actually did my NBA at Temple University and

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Speaker 1: did my residency about two blocks from here, so it's

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Speaker 1: it's just not a really good neighborhood. And I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: you know, there's usually a large police presence in the

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Speaker 1: area to begin with, because they know there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of narcotic activity there. But the fact that you know

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Speaker 1: this many cops have been taken down and they still

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Speaker 1: don't have all of the shooters in place. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's still an ongoing situation, you know, but we're keeping

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Speaker 1: our eyes and ears to the ground. I know, we

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Speaker 1: have Jonathan Gillham on the line who also as a

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Speaker 1: police officer and can speak to this a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to keep doing something. Got one reporter

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Speaker 1: a friend of mine that lives in Philly literally saying

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Speaker 1: that people are reported hearing over a hundred shots being

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Speaker 1: fired in that area. Jonathan Gillham, I'm looking at the

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Speaker 1: images now. I mean, it looks like the entire Philly

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Speaker 1: police forces now descended on this area. But we can confirm,

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Speaker 1: in fact, four Philly police officers have been shot, and

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Speaker 1: we do believe at this moment there's still one person

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Speaker 1: one of the shooters. Second, it's actually five officers. It's

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Speaker 1: now five police officers. Police officers. Yeah. Um, And you

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Speaker 1: want to and you have to wonder if the top

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Speaker 1: of your head, Jonathan Gillim, if in fact this is

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Speaker 1: an ambush, it could be. You know a lot of

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Speaker 1: these neighborhoods where these drug dealers live and then a

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Speaker 1: drug chaff king is pretty heavy. Uh, they have believe

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Speaker 1: it or not, These bad guys have tactical plans in place,

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Speaker 1: and they have a lot of people they call on.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not you know, we're still not exactly sure

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Speaker 1: what it is, but just going off of the neighborhood

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Speaker 1: the way it's been described that the crime rate there

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Speaker 1: and the type of crimes that are there, I think

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Speaker 1: we can rule out terrorism as probably the fact of

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Speaker 1: what's going on. This is probably a domestic issue or

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Speaker 1: that had to do with drugs or something that blew

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Speaker 1: up or let me just ad we're now being told

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Speaker 1: officially this is an ongoing incident. It is not under controlled.

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Speaker 1: The moment of five officers now issued and it's ongoing.

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Speaker 1: Witness heard so many gunshots, others describing it well over

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Speaker 1: a hundred shots heard fired. Yeah, in this type of situation,

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Speaker 1: what's happening is to be hitting this. This is not

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Speaker 1: typically something that law enforcement is involved with. Is this

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Speaker 1: type of an overwhelming response from a bad person or

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Speaker 1: bad people, So they're going to be hitting this in

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Speaker 1: a fluid situation. I'm sure tactical units are there and

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to start using what's called a

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Speaker 1: blocking force, which they call in the military, law enforcement,

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Speaker 1: they may call it different things, where they're going to

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Speaker 1: try to coordinate the area off where this is happening

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Speaker 1: so that they can isolate that to that area. And

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Speaker 1: that's the first thing that they probably want to do

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Speaker 1: is make sure that whoever these people are don't get

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Speaker 1: out of that area so that they can contain the

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Speaker 1: firefight to that area. And so I would imagine that's

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Speaker 1: happening simultaneously with the tacticle units getting ready to engage.

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Speaker 1: If they're not engage, we're getting a little more information

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Speaker 1: the shooting began if the police responded to narcotics activity

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Speaker 1: as we were talking about, Stay right there, Jonathan Gillham,

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Speaker 1: former Lieutenant commander of the MYP counter Terrorism Unit, Bill McGrory.

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Speaker 1: That gives us a little piece of the puzzle. But

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Speaker 1: whenever you hear that number of police officers shot, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like either the type of raid that we're talking about,

1485
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: or an ambush of some kind, or the type of

1486
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: activity if it was a narcotics bust. It seems to

1487
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: have gone arrive very quickly. Bill McGrory, Yeah, Yeah, Joan

1488
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: you know what, you know what jumps to my head.

1489
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes they set up offices in an ambush. You know,

1490
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: they'll call in a drug sale man with a gun.

1491
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 1: They wait for the cops to show up, and next

1492
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: thing you know, they're being an ambush. And as Jonathan said,

1493
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: you know they're trying to set up and coordinate right

1494
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: now and try to locate those guys. And it's a

1495
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 1: it's a it's a shame because this is the second

1496
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: incident with the cops in the last foot weekend. It's

1497
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable. Oh, you also saw what happened in Philly.

1498
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: I went through a great detail all the rhetoric that

1499
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: has been used against ice officers. We had the San

1500
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 1: Antonio late at night, they were shooting into one of

1501
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: the ice offices down there. We've had a number of

1502
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: these incidents. We had the case in Washington, DC where

1503
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 1: you had these devices that were sent into the Washington

1504
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: office in Tacoma. That guy who ended up being shot,

1505
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 1: he was hurling these throwing these devices, throwing him into

1506
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: a Washington State immigration detention center. We had another incident

1507
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 1: in May of twenty eighteen. And the rhetoric has been

1508
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:44,480
Speaker 1: so far over the top. You know, we have Congressman

1509
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: Gatierras calling ICE agents Gestapo. We have liberal websites calling

1510
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 1: Ice the American Gestapo. We're calling detention centers that have

1511
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: beds and cots and blankets and medical care and soccer

1512
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: fields and wreck facilities and TVs and bones and baby formula,

1513
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: doctors and diapers, or comparing them to Auschwitz and concentration camps.

1514
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,879
Speaker 1: The rhetoric against police have gotten so far out of control.

1515
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's what's involved here. It sounds

1516
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: like this is a bust that has gone very very

1517
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: badly or an ambush. We don't know. Yes, and people

1518
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: and because of the left rhetoric, and I hate to

1519
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: put politics into it, but we have to call it

1520
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: what it is. Right, you look at the presidential debate.

1521
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: What was said on the presidential debate, tops are bad

1522
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 1: and we want to release criminals. So you have this

1523
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 1: sentiment that you could do whatever you want the tops.

1524
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. They're the enemy, They're the bad guys.

1525
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: Throw water on them, ambush them, shoot them, whatever it is.

1526
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: And this is the sentiment that's going on in the

1527
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: United States. Yeah, let me go to we have some

1528
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 1: of the audio now that has been picked up, and

1529
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: I want to play this for our audience here if

1530
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: you're just joining us. We have now five police officers

1531
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: confirmed shot and it was apparent narcotics raid that went badly.

1532
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: Here is some of the audio on the radio police

1533
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: radio scanners in Philly. I heard so many gun shots

1534
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 1: that it was I got scared and I lifted my

1535
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: window of to see what was going on, and I

1536
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: left out of the house because I was scared. Did

1537
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: you how many gunshots did you hear? Over a hundred?

1538
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: Over one hundred gunshots? Did you see people running? They

1539
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: were here, they were scurrying, they were afraid. Over there

1540
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: where they are they have them held up is a

1541
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: play lot where children play. Terrible. How do you feel

1542
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 1: about this happening here? For officers? You know here? You're scared.

1543
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm scared all right. Now. What we know at this

1544
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: time that the Temple University Health Sciences Center campus, it's

1545
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: in and around this area. Fox twenty nine, Philly is

1546
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: in lockdown. The shooting began after police responding to a

1547
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: narcotics activity that was going on. Probably a lot of

1548
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 1: a lot of money, a lot of drugs involved. Here

1549
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: as you just heard some of the witnesses saying over

1550
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 1: a hundred shots have been fired. We now can confirm

1551
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: five police officers shot in the area around this part

1552
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: of Temple University. It's called Nicetown, the section of Philly,

1553
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: this part of the town was where this all went down.

1554
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: We have a massive police presence and what we're told

1555
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: is this is active and ongoing. In other words, I

1556
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: believe one person has been taken into custody and they

1557
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: suspect that there is there are others involved that are

1558
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: hunkered down inside at least one of the buildings surrounding

1559
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 1: the area, but we don't have any confirmation. Police are

1560
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 1: acting as though that is in fact the case. As

1561
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: of right now, we have two of the officers were

1562
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: taking a Temple University. One of the officers went to Einstein,

1563
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,440
Speaker 1: which are the two local hospitals there. They're both great hospitals,

1564
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 1: and two of the other officers have been transported, but

1565
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: it's not being reported where they are. Mayor Jim Kenny

1566
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: and the Police Commissioner Richard Ross are also both heading

1567
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: to Temple University. The Philly helicopter over the scene could

1568
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: be seen taking one in into custody, but we're not

1569
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: sure what that person's role was in the incident. And

1570
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: it happened on the thirty seven hundred block of North

1571
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: fifteenth Street, So it looks like the police captain is

1572
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: on the sign kind brew he's there, and all of

1573
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: the police officers are now sheltering and telling people to

1574
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: shelter in place, as well as what you mentioned about

1575
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: the Health and Science senator being in lockdown as well.

1576
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: One witness called it like a scene you would see

1577
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: in ward Jonathan Gillham. If it's a narcotics rate of

1578
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,600
Speaker 1: some kind, probably high dollars. If you're talking about the

1579
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: type of weaponry and the type of criminal activity that

1580
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 1: would bring it to this level, right, it could be

1581
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: probably most likely. So, And I'll tell you one thing

1582
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: that people need to understand about this that are in

1583
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: around that area is that this type of a situation,

1584
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: once they get these guys, of course they probably know

1585
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: who they are because that's who they were targeting. Once

1586
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: they have them locked down, it's different than a terrorism

1587
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: type of incident where they must keep pushing forward because

1588
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 1: they know people are going to be killed. In this situation,

1589
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: if there's no hostages, the police can stand back lock

1590
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: the area down, and that's where they negotiators still work

1591
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: because now they can just wait the guys out and

1592
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: not take any chances on losing life. And I do

1593
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: want to say one thing, you know, the people that

1594
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 1: were the witnesses that were talking there a minute ago,

1595
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: if you ever find yourself in a shootout, which most

1596
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 1: people never will, if you're outside and you can find

1597
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: an invention in the ground that's eighteen inches are deeper,

1598
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: your survivability rate goes up fifty percent because of the

1599
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: way bullets travel. And people should always remember that if

1600
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: they ever hear bullets going off and you're outside, if

1601
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 1: you can get away, fleet, but if you're caught in it,

1602
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 1: try to find some invention in the ground to get

1603
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 1: down into it. The Temple University Health and Science Center

1604
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 1: campus is on lockdown. That is the exact area with

1605
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: US took place. Some witnesses saying over a hundred shots

1606
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: have been fired. Police aren't telling everybody that this is

1607
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 1: an active and ongoing situation, and basically what looks like

1608
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 1: the entire Philadelphia Police force is on the scene now.

1609
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: Five police officers confirmed shot like a scene you would

1610
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: see in a war one witness saying and the shooting

1611
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 1: beginning after police responding to narcotics activity not known well

1612
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 1: in an area that it happens to be known for

1613
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 1: a lot of drugs and violence and crime, unfortunately, one

1614
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 1: of the cities that we need to get cleaned up

1615
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 1: in this country that we talk so often about. But

1616
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 1: the situation, again is active and ongoing. I'm looking at

1617
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: the scene right now and I can tell you that

1618
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 1: there are at least what looked like a hundred police

1619
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: cars surrounding this one particular area. Now we're also being

1620
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 1: told is that people are being told not to leave

1621
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:59,879
Speaker 1: their homes, that there is an active firefight actually ongoing

1622
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:04,560
Speaker 1: that just crossed the wires as we speak, and so

1623
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 1: it's an active shooting situation. If you're in and around

1624
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: this part of Philly, please take the proper precautions and

1625
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: shelter and let the police do their job. This is

1626
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 1: what they are trained to do, and their presence is heavy.

1627
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 1: You could see the way they're cordoned off. Let me

1628
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 1: just paint a picture here for you that the way

1629
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 1: that they're cordoned off is you can see that they're

1630
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: hiding specifically behind certain areas and there's certain blocks, so

1631
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: that would probably mean that they are aware of where

1632
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 1: the likely well shooter is there. Bertie Carrick is with

1633
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: us former MYPDA Commissioner commission I know you've lived through

1634
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,839
Speaker 1: a lot of bad times. Five cop shot, pretty scary,

1635
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: it's active, it's ongoing, more shots being heard even as

1636
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: we speak. According to live reports that are coming in,

1637
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 1: over a hundred shots fired. A narcotics bust apparently gone bad.

1638
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: What can you tell us, well, I think what they're

1639
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: going to have to do and what they're doing now

1640
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: you'll see him stabilize in a certain area. They want

1641
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: to identify where the shooter is, where the gunshots are

1642
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: coming from, take care of the injured, and then get

1643
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: anybody else out of the way. You know, when you

1644
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 1: have one of these things shown, the key thing is

1645
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: take care of everybody as it stands right now. But

1646
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: then you know you're going to probably try to wait

1647
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: this guy out unless you can make him pop his

1648
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: head out and take him out in the process. That's

1649
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 1: probably going to be unlikely. So we might be in

1650
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 1: a standoff situation for quite a period of time. Walk

1651
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 1: us through what normal procedures would be. At least when

1652
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: you were running the NYPDA. From your perspective as commissioner,

1653
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 1: you know what in this time, in the aftermath of

1654
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, even the everyday average patrolman are trained

1655
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 1: for active shooter scenarios where they're going to go, and

1656
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 1: they're going to go first. You know. Historically you would

1657
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 1: wait for a squat team where a special operations unit.

1658
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: That's no longer the case, which is why you see

1659
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of these, you know, the everyday sector car

1660
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: patrol and so to speak up front, now you'll have

1661
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: special operations come in, they'll put up drones, they'll put

1662
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 1: up the you know, they'll start collecting camera information from

1663
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: the surrounding area and they'll identify where this person is

1664
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: or people depending on how many um and then you

1665
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,839
Speaker 1: work on getting to them. But the first and foremost

1666
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 1: is get the injured cops out of there. Anybody else

1667
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 1: that's in the way, get them out of there as well.

1668
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: We're seeing images now of emergency response teams literally and

1669
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:41,719
Speaker 1: ambulances racing out of the area. Assumingly they are taking

1670
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: them to the hospital as we speak. Stay right there,

1671
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 1: Commissioner Karrig. We have more audio from some of the witnesses.

1672
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 1: Let's listen to what they say they heard, and so'll

1673
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: make them one on one in priorities. How far Alice,

1674
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: you can hear commission, you can hear the gunshots in

1675
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,799
Speaker 1: the background. There reports of over a hundred shots fired.

1676
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 1: So this was this sounds like a shootout in the

1677
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 1: middle of this apparent narcotics investigation raid. Whatever was going on?

1678
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: Do you think is there any chance this was an ambush?

1679
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was an ambush, but you know,

1680
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: the normal narcotics raid, you may have a guy, you know,

1681
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 1: fire at the cops as they're trying to do an

1682
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: entry or something like that. Somebody doing a hundred rounds Sean.

1683
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 1: This is somebody that was sitting and waiting. This is

1684
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: somebody that had, you know, a stockpile of MMO and weapons.

1685
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: Perhaps you know, somebody that may have anticipated the cops coming, uh,

1686
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, to their door. Um, that's not the norm

1687
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 1: in a drug you know, bust scenario, so to speak.

1688
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: So it's going to be interesting to play out what

1689
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 1: happened later. Um, you know, but for now, get those

1690
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 1: injured cops out here. What we know though, get shot.

1691
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: We know the shooting began after police responded to narcotics activity.

1692
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: Police are confirming that this situation remains active and ongoing,

1693
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,560
Speaker 1: which means that one of the shooters at least is

1694
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: at large. If somebody holds up inside a building and

1695
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 1: maybe even that building has food, water, or supplies of

1696
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 1: some kind, no telling how long the standoff like that

1697
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 1: could go on. Fortu and Sean, let me jump in

1698
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: from one second, the shots we're being fired from inside

1699
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: of a house on that street, So they were firing

1700
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: from a window at the cops right as the cops

1701
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,640
Speaker 1: were pulling up. So Commission I asked you again, you

1702
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: know they that would mean how long does this go

1703
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: on for? Well, listen, it's going to go on until

1704
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: they can get the person out of there. What the

1705
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: primary thing right now is going to make sure nobody else,

1706
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 1: nobody else gets hurt on the outside. So they need

1707
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 1: to secure it down the area. They need to evacuate

1708
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 1: the houses next to that. They need to create a

1709
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: secure zone to make sure the guy doesn't or people

1710
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: don't escape, can't get out of the air and disappear

1711
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: into the into the night. So that's what they're going

1712
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 1: to be working on. But if it's coming out of

1713
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 1: a house. This is this could be a group show

1714
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, they were doing a narcotics arrest. This could

1715
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 1: be a group that anticipate, you know, in the drug

1716
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 1: rivalry arena, in the cartels, you know they're always uh

1717
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 1: stocked up with ammunition and guns, anticipating a rip, anticipating

1718
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, another drug. Let me, let me add a

1719
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 1: couple of other things that are just coming through. Well,

1720
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 1: this didn't take long, Kamala Harris suggesting her twenty twenty

1721
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 1: gun control policies would have stopped the shooting that took

1722
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,799
Speaker 1: place in Philly today. I mean, really, it's still ongoing.

1723
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,599
Speaker 1: Can somebody inform the presidential candidate this is still ongoing.

1724
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 1: What we're also hearing is we get a little bit

1725
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 1: more details. A suspect, again narcotics related in a home,

1726
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 1: shooting in the upper floors. Two cops with two suspects

1727
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 1: or restrained and trapped in the upper floors. So this

1728
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 1: might even be worse than initially thought. Maybe the main

1729
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 1: reason why the police are telling us the situation is

1730
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: active and ongoing. Three suspects restrained. Also appears to be

1731
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 1: shooting at cops who are outside the home from inside

1732
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,560
Speaker 1: the home. So there's things going on inside and outside,

1733
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: and we don't have any clue at this moment what's

1734
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 1: going on inside the area where and the home in

1735
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: particular that is now cordoned off by the police. This

1736
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 1: could be. This could be lasting quite a while, commission,

1737
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 1: It could be lasting quite a while, and the guys

1738
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: inside are going to be extremely important with regard to

1739
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 1: intel feeding the people outside what's in there. You know,

1740
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 1: what's in the house where the adversary is worth. Special

1741
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: agents from the atfforts are on the scene. If it

1742
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,839
Speaker 1: is a police hostage situation, is that a possibility? Commission,

1743
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: it could be. You know, look, everything is speculation at

1744
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 1: this point. But when you have two officers in the

1745
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 1: house with other suspects and they can't get out, that's

1746
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 1: a major problem. So you don't have atf You're gonna

1747
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 1: have the FBI show up. It's gonna be a major problem,

1748
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: and who knows how long it's gonna go. Yeah, unbelievable

1749
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 1: if you're just joining us. By the way, witnesses hearing

1750
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 1: over one hundred gunshots. We have some of them that

1751
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: we just played on tape moments ago. It's in and

1752
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 1: around the Temple University Science center, which is on lockdown.

1753
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: It's active and ongoing, and reports that at least one

1754
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: of the shooters is inside and it's going on as

1755
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 1: we speak. This all in response to police responding to

1756
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 1: a narcotics traffic, a narcotics deal that was going on

1757
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 1: in particular at the time, in this particular home. A

1758
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 1: number of suspects would now being told are involved in

1759
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 1: all of this. Some are in custody, but some are

1760
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: at large, and several officers injured, active and ongoing. Our

1761
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,959
Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers are with the City of Philly, these families,

1762
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 1: these policemen, and these brave nurses and doctors. May they

1763
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: do their best work. We'll have more tonight on Hannity

1764
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 1: Quick Break, and thank you Commissioner, Thank you, Jonathan Gillam,

1765
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: Thank you, mister McGarty.