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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Hello, Hi, and welcome all. If you

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Speaker 1: can hear the sound of my voice and guess what

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Speaker 1: Bach you're listening to Stradio Lab. That's right, I'm bringing

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Speaker 1: back in a big way, George. What do you think

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Speaker 1: about that? What do you think about? Okay? Is there

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Speaker 1: is there a book or article to be written about

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Speaker 1: how each generation has their own um strange alternative to bitch.

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Speaker 1: Ours had Batch and then the younger one had Bench?

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Speaker 1: Oh sure? And could you make some kind of argument

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Speaker 1: that Bach arose out of the Bush years somehow and

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Speaker 1: Bench is a clearly Obama era term. Uh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think there could be a book about that. I see

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Speaker 1: it now, the past, present, in future of Bitch. What

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Speaker 1: do you think so we had? I now I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: what was before Beach? Before you know what? I'll say this.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to ask a question and then immediately interrupt you,

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Speaker 1: But I do think during the Beach era there was

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Speaker 1: also Batch, there was Betch, And honestly, I wish I

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Speaker 1: had done some more research before we started on this

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Speaker 1: deep topic because I'm trying to put the timeline together

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Speaker 1: in my head and I didn't give you advanced warning,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, I saw, I got the synopsis and

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Speaker 1: I just didn't do the reading because I I thought

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Speaker 1: I could wing it. And you know, this is a

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Speaker 1: very time specific um. So Betch, but Batch, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of stayed around into the tens. That was like, well, Betch,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting Betch. I think maybe is the

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Speaker 1: bridge between Bach and Bingch because Betch to me was like,

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Speaker 1: do you remember betch is love this? Yeah, that's still around.

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Speaker 1: Well sure, but betch is love this was you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that was like early Internet era and

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Speaker 1: then it brought us into uh it is. It is

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Speaker 1: still around as as you said, but it's almost auto

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Speaker 1: nostalgic in a way. Sure, you know when when I

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Speaker 1: think of Betch, I I think of like the let's

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Speaker 1: get some shoes girl. Yes, absolutely, And so to me

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Speaker 1: it is it's early Internet. It's it's almost can I

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Speaker 1: has cheeseburger and I have cheeseburger? Is batch? Yees? Is

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Speaker 1: like just like a sitcom like and then right, and

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Speaker 1: then it all led up to Regina saying it on

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Speaker 1: Mean Girls and then was officially over. That's when Bach

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Speaker 1: got mainstream and and that's when Betch and that's when

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Speaker 1: the beach Crown was given to Betch. Betch took us

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Speaker 1: through the early Internet and then Binge. It was like, um, well, Benches, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it is streaming era where it's Internet and

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Speaker 1: it's sitcom, and it's like the lines are blurred because

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Speaker 1: because Bench is mainstream and yet it's still niche, and

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Speaker 1: so it kind of can't be destroyed in the same

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Speaker 1: way that Bach was by mean girls, because it's just

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Speaker 1: already popular and underground exactly then and then along those lines,

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Speaker 1: Bench is also very like it's ironic in a way

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Speaker 1: that is taking any kind of teeth out of the

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Speaker 1: word bitch, like it is your It is inherently jokingly

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Speaker 1: saying bitch. It's like saying bitch is problematic. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to say to make to babe defy it. It

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Speaker 1: acknowledges the trauma, It acknowledges of the the movements we've

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Speaker 1: been making as a society, and it says, well, let's

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Speaker 1: let's not have a little fun, but respectfully, it's let's

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Speaker 1: have a little fun, but let's also kind of sweep

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Speaker 1: it under the rug. It's not offering an alternative. And

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Speaker 1: I would say much like kind of a lot of

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Speaker 1: Obama agriculture bench is kind of like, oh, we don't

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Speaker 1: do a bitch anymore. He he. And then it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well then what's next. It's Trump. Sure, so you're saying

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Speaker 1: we need to address it head on. We need to

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Speaker 1: just get rid of benches cowardly in the way that

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Speaker 1: like self referential things like um, things that think that

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Speaker 1: like by self satirizing their like absolving themselves of any guilt. Sure, sure,

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Speaker 1: bench is the dollar stimulus, which is plus the six

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Speaker 1: equal to two thousand's. It's like, yeah, come on, it's fine,

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Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. Yes, I hate okay, well yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: I actually I love to interrupt. It's one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite things in the world to do. That's a lie. Um,

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Speaker 1: But I feel like there's a lot of biznatch erasure

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Speaker 1: that is currently I hate to add to the discourse.

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Speaker 1: But business was there first, Bisa was there, Yes, And

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, okay, let's not you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's um we it's a conversation we have to have.

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Speaker 1: But like we have, these things are these words are popular.

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Speaker 1: First of all, there are so many conversations that we

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Speaker 1: had around um, you know, which communities each of these

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Speaker 1: terms originated in and then which communities popularize them. But

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Speaker 1: then biz match is one of those things that maybe

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Speaker 1: in our current era bench for a white person to

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Speaker 1: less provocative than for a white person to say bisinats.

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Speaker 1: Of course, but we are erasing the truth that white

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Speaker 1: people were saying business. Uh, and that is real and

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Speaker 1: we need to acknowledge that, and you know, not not

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Speaker 1: Obama era brush under the rug. We need to address

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Speaker 1: that white people were sending business. Well, white people were

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Speaker 1: saying bus mats in the Bush era, then in the

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Speaker 1: Obama era it was brushed under the rug, and then

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Speaker 1: now it is finally time to have a kind of okay,

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Speaker 1: so to have a public reckoning with the fact that

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Speaker 1: white people said businats, but do it in a once

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Speaker 1: again bid An era safe and toothless way. So it's

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Speaker 1: kind of it's lets it's me writing an op ed

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Speaker 1: about how I'm coming out as formerly having said business

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Speaker 1: and then people congratulating me. But it's like, but then

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Speaker 1: I get a book deal out of it, and I'm

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Speaker 1: a white person. That's that's the era we're in now. Well,

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Speaker 1: George I mean, congrats on the book deal. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: I deserved. Um. You know, our guests already popped in,

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Speaker 1: and I feel as though once that curtain is open,

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Speaker 1: you can't close it in curtain. We've never in this

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Speaker 1: podcast been able to close the curtain. In fact, we

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Speaker 1: keep opening curtain, opening curtains, um to the point where

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Speaker 1: it really is a mess. Yeah, we're exposed in every

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Speaker 1: single angle, and it's it's unflattering. It's it's especially at

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Speaker 1: night when the lights are on and everyone can see,

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Speaker 1: and yet there are always more curtains. It's almost like

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Speaker 1: the more curtains we pull back, the more the least,

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Speaker 1: the less exposed we are because we're covered in more curtains. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well Solomon, what do you think, um, is any you know,

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Speaker 1: is any of this usable? Honestly, really, my issue here

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Speaker 1: that it's not it's just you know, hyperboly of sorts,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, I'm when we speak of curtains,

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Speaker 1: I want to see curtains. Right. Well, it has been

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Speaker 1: discussed that my interior decoration situation is abhorrent and I

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Speaker 1: should be jailed for it. But um, but but yes,

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Speaker 1: there are no curtains anywhere to be found. You know

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Speaker 1: it's well. Also, please welcome to the podcast. Solomon Georgio. Hello,

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Speaker 1: you know I did. That's such a formality that I

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Speaker 1: that wants to happen and what I wanted to say,

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Speaker 1: um where I forcibly had to introduce you very quickly

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Speaker 1: because I had a point that I wanted to respond to,

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Speaker 1: which is my apartment also looks shitty and also has

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Speaker 1: nothing on the walls, but no one ever points it out.

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Speaker 1: Multiple times people point out how hideous and bear George's

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Speaker 1: walls are, but mine also are pretty bare from this angle.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously when you turn everything is gorgeous over here.

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Speaker 1: There's oh, there's are there's plans, but you can't see

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Speaker 1: that here, and no one's called calm down. There's like

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Speaker 1: one thing on the wall. Okay, you know, I spun

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Speaker 1: it very I'm all tied up to the wall, so

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Speaker 1: I can't really spend my computer properly. But see, I

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Speaker 1: feel a little bad because I'm only showing you my

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Speaker 1: spare room, uh and not my nicest room. And and

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Speaker 1: I got that sense, you know when we when we

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Speaker 1: pieces of art here. That's what I'm known for, is

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Speaker 1: my large pieces of art. Um this one is just,

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Speaker 1: I believe, just a popsical melting. Oh, it's a popsicle melting.

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Speaker 1: And then is it a French flag? No, it's an

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Speaker 1: American popsicle. Good question. Who's the artist? Have no idea?

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Speaker 1: Will never look it up? Ah? Where did you get

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Speaker 1: that giant print of a popsicle melting? From a website

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Speaker 1: called giant art dot com. Wow, I'm sorry, but Solivan,

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Speaker 1: giant art dot com might be the straightest thing I've

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Speaker 1: ever heard to go on giant art dot com and

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Speaker 1: order a print of a melted popsicle. Whatever events you

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Speaker 1: think occurred for me to look up giant art, such

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Speaker 1: as typing the words giant art into the Internet, That's

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Speaker 1: exactly what happened, and that is how I've gotten this paping.

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Speaker 1: So just to be clear, this is a real website,

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Speaker 1: not a riff or a bit that you're making up

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Speaker 1: not at all. My is better than the jokes that

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Speaker 1: that would And then she responded completely earnestly, No, like

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Speaker 1: all great comedy, it comes from truth. And I was like, huh, No,

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Speaker 1: comedy can come from absolute farces and lies. That's comedy

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Speaker 1: is not subject only truth. Thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 1: I firmly believe that some of the best comedy is

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Speaker 1: a straight up lies. You've always said that you I

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Speaker 1: think if you're I think your comedy is based more

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Speaker 1: built a career. I'm just constantly saying two truths in

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Speaker 1: to live. You want to maintain some sort of karmic

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Speaker 1: balance in the universe, that's right. Like speaking of karmic balance. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I have them. As listeners of the podcast, No,

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Speaker 1: I recently, for the first time in my life, got

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Speaker 1: a lesbian trainer, and I am, I have no muscle

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Speaker 1: fuss is all about. What has your experience been using

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Speaker 1: those giant weights? Well? See, well, first of all, I

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Speaker 1: said I didn't use them, which is also that was

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Speaker 1: the lie that I told. I use them very regularly.

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Speaker 1: I just don't intimidate other people, um personally with me

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Speaker 1: any issues whatsoever moving and aging by any means. Uh No,

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Speaker 1: lifting weights. And I, Um, I've recently done stuff with

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Speaker 1: my body such as, um, not drink every single night

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Speaker 1: been I've been able to move. Is that a quarantine habit? Sure? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those moments between your conversations should be enough to uh yeah, no,

423
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Speaker 1: we have a really really good editor, um, so we

424
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Speaker 1: can sort of instruct them to release maybe a Solomon

425
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: list edit. Um. Oh god, if you can. I would

426
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: if you can do that for a few of my

427
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: comedy tapes as well. I would really appreciate that if

428
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: I can get a solid thirty minutes of silence, that

429
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: would make me very How do you feel about hearing

430
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: the sound of your own voice in general? Um? To

431
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: be honest, I was being very um uh God puts

432
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: the word I'm looking. I was being self deprecating. No,

433
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't do it very often. Uh and

434
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: no and not and not. Honestly, I think I am

435
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: pretty amazing in in every sense of the word, and

436
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: especially my voice and the control that I have over

437
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to infliction. It's really, honestly, really

438
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: my pride and joy. So well do you would you

439
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: say you have that one of those voices where when

440
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: you were younger parents would be like impressed with you. Oh? Yes,

441
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: I was the kind of I was. First of all,

442
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: I was the sort of like the the the ambassador

443
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: to my family. I I like when I can, I

444
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: grasped the English faster I was, I had, I had

445
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: the best penmanship, so I and so I'm I was

446
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: a kid that was like, this is my family, I

447
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: am the representative. Let's have a discussion, What would you

448
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: like to say to the elder Georgios is kind of

449
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: who I was as a child? Wow? Uh, that's I

450
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: was the complete opposite I would like be. I was

451
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: like obviously different backgrounds and etcetera. But I was just

452
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: like always silent as a child. I didn't speak until

453
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: I was about nineteen. Um. Yeah, I was always hiding.

454
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: And you still have that about You still have that

455
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: sometimes where you say you didn't speak at all until

456
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: your nineteen Well, I was like poor reader, right, Yeah,

457
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: it took a while. I didn't video game as hard

458
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: as I could, but I didn't speak. That's a form

459
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: of expression. Yeah. Do you feel like you were more? Um,

460
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: you were more drawn to the written word, As you

461
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: revealed in the last episode, you did win an essay

462
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: contest writing a pro Bush essay when you were in

463
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: eighth grade. You know, I don't feel like I was

464
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: drawing the written word. I don't think that essay was good.

465
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: I knew if I no, no, But you know what

466
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: you did what you had to do. You said, I

467
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: know my audience they want pro Bush. Look, I made

468
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: a hundred bucks. That's that was a lot of money

469
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 1: as an eighth grade, I feel like this speech might

470
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: have been plagiarized. Did you he actually plagiarized George Bush's speech?

471
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: It actually was the direct word for word the access

472
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: of Evil speech that George Bush famously gave in order

473
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: to sell the Iraq War. Honestly, you can easily resell

474
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: any of George Busch's speeches back to him. It's son,

475
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: that's the smartest thing to have done. Well. First of all,

476
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: as we've realized, you know, during the Obama and Trump eras,

477
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: people have a very short memory with these things. So

478
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: you really can just recycle direct policies, argument um, you know,

479
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: even misleading things that have been proven false. You can

480
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: actually just repeat after about five years. Well, I think

481
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: the issue here is that people, when you say short memory,

482
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: I think they just don't retain the information at all.

483
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: It requires a memory to be involved. I think what

484
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: occurs is that it's thrown out and then just completely over. Yeah,

485
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: which is a very American thing, like I think, um,

486
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: other countries know their own history. I would like to

487
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: say that retaining information is not an American quality. Yeah,

488
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: that's what That's what it is. It's like it's it

489
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: is actually just kind of a sea of information, and

490
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: occasionally it will graze past you or it'll it'll touch you,

491
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: and you'll say, oh, I don't want that. You know,

492
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: that's not for me. No, thank you. Um, and they

493
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: move on and and so the information is out there,

494
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: but it's not, um being internalized in any in any

495
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: real way. Yes, it's it's really impressive. It's like it's

496
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: the same like electoral cause that's been here for hundred

497
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: of years, yet no one knows how it works. And

498
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: that's like it's really the information is available, but if

499
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: no one wants any of it, right, it is. Um,

500
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: it's me googling the rules of football before the Super

501
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: Bowl every year for things like war and quality, just

502
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: the general history of your own country. Yeah yeah, I

503
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: mean here's I feel like there's Americans who forget the

504
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: own capital city of the state they live in. But

505
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: then they think, but then they're like, and yet they

506
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: retained the belief that they are the most American possible

507
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: person that could ever be. Okay, me dragging Republicans, Yeah,

508
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: this is groundbreaking, ship man, were just dragging Americans. We

509
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: haven't even started Republicans, see already. I want to I

510
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: want to distance myself from this, I'm like, oh, yeah,

511
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: that's Republicans. Democrats of course do know their history. It's

512
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: the electoral college specifically, is that thing where every four

513
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: years it's like, oh my god, wait, wait, wait, wait,

514
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: we forgot to do something about that, like what is

515
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: going on, you know what like voting election day being

516
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. Remember when at one point after Obama

517
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: was elected, I think it was like maybe his like

518
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: literally like acceptance speech when he was elected. He said

519
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: it was like an applause line where he was like,

520
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: thank you everyone too for you know, like lining up

521
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: on a week you know, on a week day. And

522
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: then he's like, by the way, we're gonna have to

523
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: change that, and then everyone like burst into applause. And

524
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: then he never did anything. No, and he's not the

525
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: first step said that. It is very It's impressive, honestly,

526
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: the amount of times history has repeated itself and the

527
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: results are the same experience. Yeah, that's what'll give other

528
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: countries is that there's always even if it's if it's

529
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: the same thing again, it's a new flavor, right, there's

530
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: more variety, which is not the same kind of dictator

531
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 1: as the last dictator exactly exactly. Yeah, what makes someone

532
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: What do politicians get out of it? Today? No? No,

533
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean like today I was like okay, but but

534
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: why are they still doing this? Like I can't think

535
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: of any worse job than being like a random senator,

536
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: Like is that Georgia giving me comedy open mics? Well,

537
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: at least people like at least no one's like attacking

538
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: me every fucking day. Like I really don't understand. You

539
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: just get like pummeled by uh critique, do nothing, get

540
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: paid like a lot, but like is it worth it?

541
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: I don't get it, um if you're telling me if

542
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: it's worth getting paid a lot of money to do

543
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: next to nothing. And I really truly do not understand

544
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: how you don't see the benefit of that to meeting Still,

545
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: they're just literally get half the year off. I there's

546
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: nothing but benefits. There's almost they get two hundred days

547
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: off in the Senate. As you get to be a talent,

548
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: they get they pretty much half the year off in

549
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: the Senate. They're not they're not doing anything. They're not.

550
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if politicians were the original influencers, and that

551
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: they are, you know, it's like this hack where you

552
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: can be a celebrity without having any talents and and

553
00:32:53,960 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: also um, just like coast on name recognition. Yeah, okay,

554
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: let's see. This is why I asked the question, like,

555
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: this is the information I want to know? Yeah, well,

556
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: there you go. I mean, here's the thing is that

557
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: there's there's some of us who probably did debate when

558
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: we were younger, and then they were like, do you

559
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: want to go Nashville? Do you want to do it

560
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: in college? And the rest of us go, why would

561
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: we ever want to do that? And these are the

562
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: kids that went and did that because it was it

563
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: was because it was a labor of of hate. Uh,

564
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: and it gave skill set that was completely unnecessary, which

565
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: is bullshitting their way through something that sounds intelligent and

566
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: honestly it's look and but it's like, is it maybe

567
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: the only necessary skill? I'm gonna say no, Okay, I

568
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: mean I guess not if you're a doctor. But I

569
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: do think in general, you know, if more people were

570
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: taught the skill of bullshitting your way through a statement,

571
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: that actually is more important than trigonometry. But at the

572
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: end of the day, if my face it is being

573
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: on money from doing almost nothing, then fuck it. Yes,

574
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: let's do this. I hope to be that famous. What

575
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: if your face ends up being on money, but it's

576
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: because you're a successful comedian and writer. I would be

577
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: so upset that I had to work my ass off

578
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: to be on money. I want to be on money

579
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: for doing the least amount of stuff and usually based

580
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: on perversion of the story of the stories of the

581
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: stuff I've done. Okay. I want to be on money

582
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: because I've done so little, and yet there's been and

583
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: somebody made something up that's great that I did and

584
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: everyone believes it. That's why I want to be on money.

585
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't would you rather be on a high bill

586
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: or a low bill? Like would you? I think this

587
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: is a good question. George, you're laughing at me, but

588
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: I think this is a good question. I want to

589
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: be on the halfpenny, Okay. I want them to create

590
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: a number, a denomination lower than a penny, and it's

591
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: it's specifically annoying because it's too much change end up

592
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: getting out of it. I want something that doubles people

593
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: change because I was invented as a form of money.

594
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: Interesting Solomon coin. I look, if I'm gonna be dead,

595
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: I want to becomebersome alright, that's true. Yeah, it's like

596
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: a special new kind of money that's like marbles that

597
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: actually are really bad, like don't fit in pockets and

598
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: constantly fallow everywhere, and people are um tripping on them. Um,

599
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: and they also are worth nothing. Well that's the things

600
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: that I feel like, if you're gonna be dead, try

601
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: to find a way to be more annoying than you

602
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: were in life. And that is like if you love

603
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: me and you want you're holding onto my memory, I'm

604
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: gonna make sure it's not gonna be worth it. That's

605
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: someone who thinks about um leaving behind like um being forgotten. Um,

606
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: I definitely I don't. I'm not too concerned about being

607
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: forgotten to remembered. I just definitely want I just I

608
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: want somebody to better their lives because they knew how

609
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: shitty I was, or they're they're like I did something

610
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: so terrible to them after my death that they had

611
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: to become a better person. And I don't think you

612
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: do that by like giving them money like that makes

613
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: their lives better without any work. I want them to

614
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: do it on their own, like like if they want

615
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: my money, they'd have to get like a giant like

616
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: stuffed version of me with an direct penis mounted to

617
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: the wall. Version with a direct penis. I mean, if

618
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: you like version of yourself with not an erect penis,

619
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: that would be so offensive. It's like the only nonsoft

620
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: part of it. It's like a stuffed animal. And the

621
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: only nonstoft part is like a rock hard penis that

622
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: is actually filled with your Solomon coins, the halfpeny, and

623
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to have like those, the

624
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: flying squirrel skin. Just just make sure just to finish

625
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: it off. Oh yes, yes, Well, should we go into

626
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: our top I actually think we should go into our topic. Um,

627
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: And to be honest, I'm completely blanking on what it is. Okay,

628
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: so it is Solomon, Do you want to introduce it? Okay? Hi, yes, Hi,

629
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: my name Solman George. I'm now a part of the

630
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: the podcast I guess doing the work uh and the

631
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: labor um. But yeah, we're gonna be the The topic is,

632
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: uh mixology. You suggest that, and I just thought what

633
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: a great I mean, truly is a It's a quintessential

634
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: straight topic. What is your experience with mixology? I feel

635
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: like every time somebody's ever said there mix because I've

636
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: worked in service industry and like, like anyone else would

637
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: say bartender, even like the queerest queer would be like,

638
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm a bartender. But mixologist is like a this is

639
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: very specific like wax mustache sort of persona like I

640
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: like it, Like I'm a mixologist. I do magic at

641
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: night as well, close up magic. And that's a kind

642
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: of person You're breathing life into somebody who's concerned about

643
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: the craft of cocktail. Yeah, and this is a lot

644
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: of our street topics kind of deal with this, which

645
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: I think is someone who like doesn't quite have a

646
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: personality and it's sort of spring at straws. And I

647
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: think mixology a lot of times is one of those

648
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: straws that people grab where it's like I don't really

649
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: know what I like, but this is like makes me

650
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: feel like I have something, so I'll just like learn

651
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: a lot about this well. It also it's like a

652
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: misplaced it's misplaced energy. It's someone that wants either control

653
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: over something or wants to have an artistic talent or

654
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: fetishizes some weird nostalgic like you know, prohibition era, uh

655
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: environment or something, and um is living a lie. Yeah,

656
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: there's Sally the nineties like the rest of us. Yeah,

657
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: serious exactly. I feel like anybody who's trapped in this

658
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: concept of the twenties and bathroom gin it is the

659
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: twenties now like this whole like like what I'm doing

660
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: is like I'm a bad guy. I'm a bad boy.

661
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm making mixed drinks and like, I don't think you

662
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: understand what uh Like, I'm glad you found the one

663
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: and only era where it was technically illegal to make drinks,

664
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: right because the opinion of someone of someone that doesn't

665
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: have any um doesn't have any difficulty in the world

666
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: like that as part of the dominant group of people

667
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: being like when did I not have rights right drink alcohol?

668
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: And alcohol was outlawed? Like that is the only thing

669
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: they can point to and they have to hook into it, needy,

670
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: but it's like this is this is when we did

671
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: a lot, This is when this when the greats did stuff,

672
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: And you're like, I assure you that they were just

673
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: as boring as we are now. They just had to

674
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: go into a basement to get their booze. There has

675
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: not been enough repenting for the like micro fashion trend

676
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: of people dressing like they are old timing in like

677
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: the mid two thousand's. Well, the thing is that it's

678
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: not done with any class. It's not done with like

679
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: nice material. It's it's like it's like you're gonna You're

680
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: gonna do drag, get it, get it done just like you,

681
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: like you do it right, like dress up like it's right. Yes,

682
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: imagine doing dragon. It's like, Okay, you're Oliver Twist. That's

683
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: who you're. That's who you're deciding to be when you're

684
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: occupying a different personnel or you know, a different look.

685
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: And honestly, like no one should be proud that they

686
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: have the ability to regularly drink gin like that is

687
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: like you have to either you're the oldest queen in

688
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: the world or you're a young straight man. It doesn't

689
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: make any sense. Like it's not a pride. It's like

690
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's your last resort. Is what it what

691
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: it is. It's a thing that you've you've failed through

692
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: every alcohol that you ended up with gino. Interesting, Sam,

693
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: are you a gin drinker? You know? I I do.

694
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: I love a gin martini. Um Misha's got me hooked

695
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: on him. I really I made the switch from vodka

696
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: to jin Martinez in the last year. I they're they're

697
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: a toxic little drink. Oh see, I was drinking Gin

698
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: before I stop drinking, because I've also went through everything

699
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: and when I was down to the Gin drinks. This

700
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: isn't more of an autobiographical narrative. Yeah, I'm telling my

701
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: own story, but in a way that's not involving me yet.

702
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: That is that that is of the two thou twenties.

703
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: We Yeah, it's I used to hate Gin. If we're

704
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: talking about we're talking about the last thing to talk about.

705
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm just like mixology. We're talking exology. But yeah, I

706
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: think the part like I like a jin martini because

707
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, this is simple. This isn't mixology. This

708
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: is just like, this is like a drink, Like yes,

709
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: it's a little that's a little bit of that and

710
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: on your way. I do think there's I had to

711
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: go through the process of getting into fancy, getting into

712
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff to then be like, okay, no,

713
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: all I want is a simple drink. Like I remember

714
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: going to those bars in you know, I don't know

715
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: however many year years ago and where you would like

716
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: go to the bartender bartender and be like I want

717
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: something that reminds me of the smell of the ocean.

718
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: And then it would like make like that was the

719
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: giving like so what are you thinking? And then you

720
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: just and then they would like let you speak for

721
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: one second, too wrong, just so you can embarrass yourself.

722
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: You'd be like, yeah, I guess like something with whiskey,

723
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: I like sour and maybe and then they just like staring.

724
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: You're like, so maybe you know honey in there, and

725
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, yeah, so you think that that's the

726
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: thing for me? The rule, like that's why those bars

727
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: just take First of all, I do not want to

728
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: wait an aggressive amount of time for alcohol. That is

729
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: a distress, Like you're wasting my time, which is the

730
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: most important amount of time to waste. Uh So when

731
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: you like when somebody's they're like ordering, like making multiple cocktails,

732
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: and I'm just like what am I doing? Why am I? Like?

733
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Like and I just feel like at a certain point

734
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: in time, when you're out in public in a bar setting,

735
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: your drink should only have two ingredients, should that's all?

736
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: Like I feel like if you're gonna be enjoying these

737
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: mixed cocktails of with like with like these are things

738
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: you can learn to make yourself and treat yourself at

739
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: home before you go out to the public, where you

740
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: should just be ready to go. Yes, mixology should be

741
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: a private feeling about mixology. It's kind of like a

742
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: home talking about what do you do in your own

743
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: house whatever in your own home with what what you

744
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: do behind closed doors is none of my business. Like,

745
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: if you want to beat up egg whites and put

746
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: them in your drink, go for it. I just don't

747
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: want to be in the same room. I mean to

748
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: have as much as I I'm like, I'm I'm right

749
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: there with you, But then I I miss so much

750
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: the drama of every once in a while getting a

751
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: fancy cocktail, and it's just something that is no longer

752
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: available to us to see some idiot be like mixing

753
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: something then putting it in a container, then putting it

754
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: in a different container with ice, than putting it in

755
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: the first container, then like taking a little bit of

756
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: it with a straw. I mean, like, yep, sounds it

757
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: tastes good. I just that's the things that they don't

758
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: really look like they enjoyed their job because they're so smart.

759
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Mythology didn't come with any smarm like

760
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: then I would be perfectly content if there was just

761
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: a little bit of like a hey, yeah that's a

762
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: that's a great cocktail. But it's more along lines of like, yeah,

763
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: you want a cocktail, I'll get you. I'll show this

764
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: was actually a drink that was originating the nineteen twenties

765
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: in a in a backhouse in New Jersey. And you're like,

766
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: I don't fucking care. I just fucking this is how

767
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: you want up. Um. You know, you order that cocktail,

768
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: they give it to you, and then you go, this

769
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: is way too sweet. These I hate when they make

770
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: these drinks too sweet. Oh my god, yes, that's I

771
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: mean that their heads will explode. Calling something too sweet

772
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: is like the cruelest thing you can do to a mixologist.

773
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: We're going back and ordering again. I mean like, do

774
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: you have anything less sweet? Yeah? I couldn't. Why is

775
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: this so sweet? A lot of people like you, I mean,

776
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: you probably make a lot of people like the sweet drinks,

777
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: but I actually I And it's also like there's like

778
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: five liqueurs in it, so there's like yeah, and they

779
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: can't but they can't say the thing they want to

780
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: allowed in their head. I also think the scientification of

781
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: things is a very like you Okay, I just thought

782
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: of a point. Oh my god. He's doing it in

783
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: the way that like the wellness industry infuses kind of

784
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: snake oil with scientific jargon jargon. Mixology is one of

785
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: the male versions of that. It's kind of like that

786
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: along with like life hacking and things like that. It's

787
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: like calling it mixology makes it seem like something different

788
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: than literally mixing various liquids together. It's calling it's they're

789
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: treating it like it's a form of science. And I

790
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: assume that they some of them truly believe that with

791
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: their whole heart, and they're like they're going out there

792
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: being like I'm gonna make the next great mixed beverage.

793
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: And it's like that's a great aspiration to have, but

794
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and pretend it's a

795
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: form of science. It's like, sir, yeah, great for you.

796
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: You figured out that orange secure and vodka work well together. Yeah,

797
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: something sweet covers up something nasty tasting. That's exactly what

798
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: you're doing. And that's perfectly fine. But let's not that's

799
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: not treated. Yeah, it's also just like the uh, like

800
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: a gay bar. You are never having like a difficult cocktail,

801
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: And so when you are having a difficult cocktail, you're like,

802
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm in a straight place at worst, a queer friendly

803
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: place at best, but never like a queer place. Well,

804
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: what it is is that it's making up for the

805
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: fact that no one in that bar is saying or

806
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: doing anything interesting. So you have to create an environment

807
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: around the drink so that people have something to talk about,

808
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: so that people people can be like, oh my god,

809
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: this is good. Do you want to try something? Wait?

810
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: This is I love? Is that basil? It's like at

811
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: least it's a topic of conversation. I mean, it's these

812
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: people that are on the verge of suicide and they're like,

813
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: this is our one final night out, Like I'm literally

814
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: gonna divorce my husband tomorrow, and but before that, I

815
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: at least want to try this new uh, this new

816
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: bar that has the ball drink. See that's see. The

817
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: thing with the danger with mixology that needs to be

818
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: acknowledged and it needs to be confronted, is that it's

819
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: proximity to white people playing jazz, and that is it's

820
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: literally right next to it. It's gonna happen within moments.

821
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: It's uh, if you show up to a place that

822
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: has a mixologist within the hour, where you're gonna see

823
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: a white person pull out a base and you're gonna

824
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: be like, this is what the evening is gonna be.

825
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: When that happens, when you like slow people pull out

826
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: instruments and you realize there's nothing you could do, like

827
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: you've just ordered, that can be one of the most

828
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: sad things. I mean, talk about the glamour of sadness.

829
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean the worst one is when they're

830
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: just putting up a mic and it's like, oh, no,

831
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm having a fun night or thought I was, and

832
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: now there's gonna be a damn comedy show right here.

833
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,479
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, that's gonna happen that

834
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: that place that mixologists will also guarantee stand up comedians

835
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: of and not not not even like the fun ones.

836
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: This is like a year in. I've been telling the

837
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: same rape joke for the last two months and you're

838
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: gonna hear it tonight. There was nothing worse than a

839
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: comedy show at a fancy bar. It is one of

840
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: the worst combinations of things. Oh my god. It's disruptive

841
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: and honestly, if I have anyone wants to book me

842
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: in anyone, this is all over, I'll happily do it.

843
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: I was like I wouldn't give well, I know, I

844
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: was like, damn, I missed shows. I'm not going through

845
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: my worst memories. And I'm still like, oh wow, that

846
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: was a good time. Isn't that so dark that you

847
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: can made me pay for that drink? And I was

848
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: content to do it. Oh my god. Shows it like

849
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: the like shows it like the Jane Hotel, and it

850
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: was like, you get like two free drinks. It's like, well,

851
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: i'm here and I'm having fun, I'm gonna get a

852
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: third and it's like that's twenty dollars for like a

853
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: fucking whiskey soda. One of the biggest indignities is getting

854
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: a drink ticket and being told it's only good for beer,

855
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: like at a bar that literally is known for making

856
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: like cocktails and for having like fancy drinks, and you

857
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: are they're giving your time away for free for like

858
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: some asshole in Bushwick to be like or it actually

859
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just a specific beer that they've set aside

860
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: for you. Oh that's the worst kind. It's like I

861
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: appreciate that, but I have plenty of my own PBR

862
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: readily about it's it's these are the kinds of things

863
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: you read, Like, not that I you know, read them

864
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: management books or anything, but I feel like when you

865
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: read books that are like about management or about like

866
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: self help or whatever, it's the kind of thing where

867
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: it's like, if someone does that, walk away and it's

868
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: like comedy is a series of people doing all of

869
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: those things to you, and you're not being able to

870
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: walk away. It's true. And know what's the most weird.

871
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: The weird thing about it is that the other alcohol

872
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: is not that far away in price. There's not like

873
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: if somebody got a bottle of vodka instead of a

874
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: pacage of beer will be in a better situation, like

875
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: one of us at least be able to get drunk.

876
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: Right in the opposite, Sometimes when things are really generous,

877
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm like very confused and like afraid to take advantage

878
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: of it because I'm like, this can't be real, Like

879
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm so used to being like abused through comedy that

880
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: this cannot be real. That is even love. That sounds

881
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: like a lack of confidence, which I do not have,

882
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: I believe because everything in the entire own world and

883
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: I should be treated much better any chance I have

884
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: given so whenever and it was like, this is what

885
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: we're doing tonight, I'm like, oh, yes, I will do

886
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: two of that if it's allowed. You know, I respect

887
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: that confidence so much. Don't have an ounce of it,

888
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: but I do think it's beautiful in others. Look, taking

889
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: advantage of situations whenever you can is the best kind

890
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: of personality to have because it's um well constantly. Especially

891
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: in the world of comedy. It benefits me all the

892
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: time because the rest of the comedians thinks so little themselves,

893
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: So whenever I do take advantage of stuff, I end

894
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: up taking the stuff that they decided not to take.

895
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: A No, it's so true. We forget that we are

896
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: surrounded by the most insecure people ever. So all you

897
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: need to have is like a baseline of confidence, and you're,

898
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, king of the world. And my confidence is

899
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: not even that high. It's just that I just am

900
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: sure of myself, which is really the lowest requirement for

901
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: confidence is to speak with a little bit of authority.

902
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: I'll definitely work on that. I'll do a little research

903
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: into what that could possibly sound like. In the sixty

904
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: plus hours we've spent making this podcast. I wonder if

905
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: either of us has ever said anything with any authority.

906
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: I think we have, but in a joking sort of

907
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: sort of commenting on what it would sound like if

908
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: we had authority. Every time I have confidence, I it's

909
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: a commentary on the idea of commence. Look, I've been

910
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: there before, I've lived that life, and I'm done with it.

911
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: For you. The switch, um, I think it was like

912
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: round twenty. I walked by a mirror and I was like,

913
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: that's exactly right, and it just went from there. I

914
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: was pretty pretty young. Well, there's sort of like like

915
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: confidence in certain like social situations I can. I think

916
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: my my lack of confidence in my social anxiety is

917
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: probably more of along the lines of like, uh, dating

918
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But it's never been within the

919
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: realms of like stand up comedy, asking for stuff, knowing

920
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: what I want and when I want it that stuff

921
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: I can I can always do. I often know what

922
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: I want, but I never know how to ask for it.

923
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: I also think Sam, you might be the opposite and

924
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: that I think you are confident in dating and sexual situations.

925
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: I am, I am see I do not have that.

926
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: I refuse to have it. It It doesn't make sense. But

927
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: but what is it? Like, how is it? What? How

928
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: does that play out for you? Saying I'm curious for me? Yeah, Like,

929
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: what is it that's different between different kinds of situations

930
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: where you can become when where like you are so

931
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: super confident in one case and and and not in

932
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: the other. I feel, um like there's lower stakes in

933
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: like sex and dating, like it's all just playful and

934
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: fun for the most part. Yeah, yeah, you're like dating seriously,

935
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: whereas like comedy and career is like this is your

936
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: entire life. You get one chance at this ship. And now.

937
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: I not that I'm very confident in my career, but like,

938
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: for instance, when I'm writing an email, I'm in my element.

939
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm having I've never seen emails like this before,

940
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: and this, you know, I would say, that's uh what

941
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: I sent MSc Seed. I just I think about the

942
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: idea of Sam reading it and being proud of me,

943
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, God, I'm like so happy that we

944
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: get to share this together. I really do. And I'll

945
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 1: text him like that's an increa email. When you don't

946
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: text me that it's a good email, I actually get

947
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: a little sad, because that's actually when I do get

948
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 1: a little intimidated. When somebody sends me a very well

949
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: put together email, I'm like and I freeze up because

950
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, my reply would only be a sentence,

951
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: and I don't want to. That's like you're in college

952
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: where someone sends you something that's like, um, my grandmother

953
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: just died, and I think I can't hand this into

954
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: morew and then it's like a whole paragraph and then

955
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: you reply NP, and it's such it's it feels like

956
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: it's almost it's I'm like, is that insulting that I

957
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: just sent a one word response? Or should I just wait?

958
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: Like very brief and very casual in my emails in

959
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: a way that I'm like, I wish I weren't, like

960
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: I wish I had like a sort of the debate

961
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: style talking for emailing, which I do not have at all.

962
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: It's just like, these are my immediate thoughts. And but

963
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: that is the paradox with emailing, is that actually what

964
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: you're doing comes across as more confident and more professional

965
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: than when I'm doing, which is like an elaborate paragraph

966
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: with like parentheses and you know, clauses. Yeah, but I

967
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: think that's sort of important because I've I've come. I

968
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 1: think people have thought have been mad at them based

969
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: on how I respond, which is like, I like when

970
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: it comes to like written, like when I'm respond to somebody,

971
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: it's it's short, it's to the point, with no like,

972
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: and then somebody's like, are you angry, And I'm like,

973
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: oh no, I just didn't want to waste words. That

974
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're worth my time. I didn't want to

975
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: I didn't want to keep doing this. Um. But since

976
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: we're so, I end up having to backpedal and be

977
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: like add more words to say things that doesn't sound

978
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: like you're just going good job, which is like, yeah,

979
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: it's not enough when somebody sends you a fucking manifesto,

980
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: like you have to you know, in a if we're

981
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: talking communication styles it also and we are um phone calls,

982
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: I have to remind myself to like like having an

983
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: emotion because I will be like cold, like in like

984
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: I will be so empty and I'll be like, don't forget.

985
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: They want you to react to what they're saying, like

986
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: I'm just sort of taking in the information and they're

987
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: like and then I have to actively be like respond

988
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: in an emotional way. See I love phone calls. I'm

989
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: of the era I'm from. I'm I'm the initiation of

990
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: the switch over from UH from texts, from phone calls

991
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: to text. So I I can be on the phone

992
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: for an hour with with a certain with with the

993
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: with the rest of the elders, I can I can

994
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: speak for a while and having have an absolutely great

995
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: time UH and sort of convey what I what I feel,

996
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: and what I mean through the sound of my voice

997
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: through the telephone wire. When you get over the hump,

998
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 1: it's like it's good. Yeah. Um. I Like, Sydney actually

999
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: FaceTime me last night, and it was when I was

1000
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: cooking and I wasn't prepared for a phone call. And

1001
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: at first I was like, Oh, What's what's going on here?

1002
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: And then I was like in my attempt because I

1003
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: didn't want it to seem like I was taking off guard.

1004
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: I then like just talked at her for like twenty

1005
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: minutes and but then we but then it's like the

1006
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: balance shifted and then we were able to actually have

1007
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: an hour long conversation. And I would have done if

1008
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: if she hadn't called me, I would have just like

1009
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: sat on my phone and looked at the aside my

1010
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, uh couch and looked at my phone. I thought,

1011
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: why don't I do this more often? That's amazing. I'll

1012
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: tell you why I don't do that very often because

1013
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: it's terrifying. Yeah, like just randomly putting my face onto

1014
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: the internet. That's that's like there has to be a

1015
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: little bit of work done, like even if it's a

1016
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: mental preparation of like is this what you want someone

1017
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: to see you as at the moment, if it's gonna

1018
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: be an hour phone call, I do need like a

1019
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: week's notice because that is like not casual to me.

1020
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: If it's like we need to talk about this thing

1021
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: very quickly, then we can do that in a moment

1022
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: it's notice, But an hour I get very stressed out

1023
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: and like if I'm at an airport, maybe, but that's it. See.

1024
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: I just I love phone calls when there's a sharing

1025
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: of information, Like I love especially if you're telling me

1026
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: something like if somebody's like trying to explain or plants

1027
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: plant something and it's through text, I'm like, you know,

1028
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: we could have there's nothing more yes, And nothing will

1029
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: drive me crazier than when somebody sends me a voice

1030
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: to text. I'm like, that is a journey we're going through, right,

1031
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: the voice to text, the technology is just not there.

1032
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: The technology is there. The way the phone calls what

1033
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: it is, it's the technology is always existed. It's it's

1034
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: a phone call. But in a very weird way. To

1035
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: decide to do a phone call. The way people have

1036
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: decided that that's okay is frightening to me. It makes

1037
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: me think, like, oh, all of you would literally jump

1038
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: if someone said jump like, because this is available to you,

1039
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you have to actually use it. It

1040
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: makes no sense. And then I refuse to participate. So

1041
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: someone will keep texting me voice memos and then I

1042
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: will reply only via text and it will just be

1043
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: this conversation that's like a text memo, text, a voice memo,

1044
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: a text a voice memo. That's just that is. First

1045
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 1: of all, whoever does that to you in your life,

1046
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: you need to call them and tell them to stop.

1047
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: Huge shout out to Max Whittard, who loves to do this.

1048
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: Oh that is chaotic. Honestly, we'll drop his address soon,

1049
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: box his eyes, send him, send him a bunch of

1050
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: voice text because once and for all, we're done here, Um,

1051
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: what do you think are we like nearing the our

1052
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: final segment. I mean, I think we're randomly nearing our

1053
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: final segment. I think we fully unpacked mixology. I think

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Speaker 1: we went in more than we normally do uh in

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00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: a way that I think is deserved. I think mixology

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01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: should be taken down a peg um. I think it's

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: almost like mixology is one of those topics that everyone

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01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: has actually at this point agreed that it's stupid. So

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Speaker 1: I almost feel like we're beating a wounded Yeah. But nevertheless,

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01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: she persisted, you know these bars are still popping up

1061
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: in your your second Cities, your your Richmond, Virginia's, etcetera.

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01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: I just want to throw this out there, just a

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01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: final one. Mixology, every form of Scotch should be burned

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01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: to the ground. It is not a drink that I'm

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01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna say it, and I mean it with my whole heart.

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01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: Like why does it taste a little bit like a fire?

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01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't understand, But Solomon, I do feel like that's

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01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,479
Speaker 1: the final form of like the Gin Journey, where it's like,

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01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: when you're you're really tired of everything, you go to Scotch.

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01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: You should have a foot in the grave by that

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01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: there's really it is truly. It is just it's it's

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01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: like you can taste the fire. It's gonna start like

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01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: it is not a pleasant What is your wait? Sorry,

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01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: I just want to are you just drinking us? Or

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01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: are you sober? Who knows? Okay, because I wanted to

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01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: ask what would your go to drink be? But I

1077
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: don't want to ask that. If you're well George, he's sober, queer,

1078
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: he's blurring what it means to be sober. I'm I'm

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01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: on a life journey and wherever it ends, it ends. Um,

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01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: So I don't want to make any commitments. No, I

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01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: actually do love. I think it is a weird cultural

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01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: thing that it's so rigid. Yeah, I think I think

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01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm probably going to be sticking to it, but

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01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, I just I want

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01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: I want to play hard to get I know that

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01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: I want sobriety to earn it. Yeah, I know the feeling. Actually,

1087
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: m hmm. I'm like, like my my career drinking habits.

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01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: You know, I've been having a pretty good I mean

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01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: tonight not with standing, but I've been like, uh, not

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01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: drinking on weeknights. Which has been kind of a nice

1091
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: like structured time and then lose it time. Yeah, but

1092
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: also like I'm I'm really not want to judge anyone.

1093
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: I literally bowed out at white clause. So white clause.

1094
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: Now there's a then there's a it is truly like

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01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: it is. I feel like that sometimes that gay been

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01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: drinking is the most masculine thing I've ever been a

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01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: part of. And it is, well, yes, yeah, it's it's

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01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: probably the most. It's it's a very specific form of

1099
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: toxic masculinity because it's done by gay men, which is

1100
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: there's plenty of it, But that one is like a

1101
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: like I don't I want I want every one of

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01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: my beverages to be mostly alcohol. Yeah. I remember like

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01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: Long Island iced tea s. Yeah. I used to drink

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01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: three of them a night when I first started. I

1105
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: mean that's like that was me in college. It's like

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01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm saving money. How I love that it's actually cheaper

1107
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: get drunk as funk off of two drinks. Oh god,

1108
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: you know it's it's a journey and we're all on

1109
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: it are Sometimes I'm like, have I stopped? Am I

1110
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: still on a journey? Am I in motion? I don't know. Honestly,

1111
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: life is long, and I hope we all die honestly

1112
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: going to be a little shorter as how I'm feeling.

1113
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean not to continue to bring up random things,

1114
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: but I've been doing these like stupid at home Apple

1115
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: workouts or whatever, and they have these like cool downs

1116
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: that are like like mindful, and they'll have like, okay,

1117
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: now some let's practice some like gratitude, and I'm like,

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01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: um no, I'm not grateful for ship more I want

1119
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: to be. I'm not happy here. I'm moving forward atitude

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01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: into an otherwise normal situation. It's like, if I want

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01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: to be grateful, I will make time for that later.

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: That doesn't need to be part of my workout. I

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01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: specifically have been. Oh god, it sounds so disgusting because

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01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: I do. I have a peloton, and the the instructor

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01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: that I have, he says peace and love every time,

1126
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: and I can say, go fund yourself. But that sounds

1127
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: actually like a really healthy mantra. Yeah that at your

1128
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: version of being grateful is knowing like you can always

1129
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: return to your um disdain for this person saying peace

1130
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: and love. Yes. Well, I'm mostly just I follow his

1131
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: classes because he's the hottest one. It is a good motivator. Unfortunately,

1132
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm part of the problem. Well, don't don't lie. Don't lie.

1133
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: So gay guys, gay guys can't have problems. Best feature?

1134
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: Why are the good ones gay? You don't? No, it's bitch.

1135
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: Sorry business married? Have you met gay or married people? Well? Yeah,

1136
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: so we should do our final segment. I feel like

1137
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: haveln s dam. I'm I'm feeling a little um oh um, well, Solomon.

1138
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: Our final segment is shoutouts, and we give a shout

1139
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: out to something that we like. Uh, it can be

1140
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: anything in the whole wide world. Um. And sort of

1141
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: in the style of imagine it's two thousand one. You're

1142
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: on TRL times Square and you're shouting out your squad

1143
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: back home. Um, I have one. I can make one work. Okay,

1144
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: I'll kick us off. What's up, listeners? Um, I just

1145
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: want to give a huge shout out to nightmares I have.

1146
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: It's they're not just for kids anymore. It turns out

1147
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: adults can have them too. Last night I was asleep soundly,

1148
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 1: woke up yelling, and my dog hopped out of bed.

1149
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: Misha popped up and said, Jesus Christ, and that you know,

1150
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: I was just having a nightmare about being attacked. Get

1151
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: over it, Grow up? Why are we having nightmares when

1152
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: we're thirty something. It's terrible, but you gotta love it.

1153
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: Life's a thrill. Um. Wow, what's up, listeners? I want

1154
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: to give a quick shout out to Nicker it gum.

1155
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: I suddenly addicted to it. I don't know why. I've

1156
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: been struggling with nicotine addiction my whole life, and it's

1157
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 1: only because one time, when I was fifteen, I wanted

1158
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: to look cool, and now it haunts me to this day.

1159
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: And direct gum is a great way to get none

1160
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: of the good parts of smoking and also feel like

1161
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: you're doing a bad drug that is always on the

1162
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: verge of giving you a bad trip but never actually

1163
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: goes there, which is maybe even worse. And then you

1164
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: have it, you feel the hydrated, you spit it out,

1165
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: and then something you want another one, and then I

1166
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: do you smell somehow you smell bad even though they

1167
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: smell experiment and uh, somehow I'm doing I'm taking more

1168
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: and more of them every day and and actually it's

1169
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: hindering my work and my personal life. And so just

1170
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: a quick shout out to me. Also a quick shout

1171
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: out to the one off brand nicotine God I got

1172
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: once that actually tasted like ash. Alright, I guess it's

1173
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: my turn. Hey, I'm Solomon. A quick shout out to

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Speaker 1: Veggie Straws. Uh, you think your chips put your twice

1175
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: as gross, which is also very impressive. Uh, you make

1176
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: me wish a Lestra was still around. I'd rather have

1177
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:46,919
Speaker 1: explosive and eat your chucky ass. Who Oh. Yeah, they're

1178
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: worse than chips. It's there. It's just it's one of

1179
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: those things where you're like, the mouth journey is not

1180
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: the same. Not It's like they're probably just as bad

1181
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: as chips healthwise, and then they taste none of the satisfaction. Yeah,

1182
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: it's really I'm like, where are we going here? Like

1183
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: I'd rather like it's I feel like it's the chemicals

1184
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: are better sometimes. You know, we are a society built

1185
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: on chemicals, and I think we should embrace it and

1186
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: stop fighting who we are. Wow, that's something mixology does

1187
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: not get. Pseudo science so exactly real science is actually

1188
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: just poisoning people. Almen, it's been a blast. Thank you

1189
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: so much for doing this your actual real life day

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01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: to to do this I've been having just blast, so

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01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm so glad. UM. Well, cheers to all. Okay, I'm

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01:08:50,840 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: gonna press up. Um