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Speaker 3: You should stop thinking of this as like a surprise,

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Speaker 3: just because you know we're consistently winning. We're consistently in

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Speaker 4: From your favorite source for Chicago White Sox Talk, delivering

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Speaker 4: the news, interviews, analysis and more. This is The Sox

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Speaker 4: Machine Podcast with your hosts Jim Margolis, James Spagan, and

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Speaker 5: Thanks Robin, Welcome to the Sox Machine Podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 5: Josh Nelson, and it's Sunday night to June fourteenth, twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty six, as we record this episode, that was cool,

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Speaker 5: so Montgomery you heard before the intro as he talked

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Speaker 5: postgame after the Chicago White Sox one on Sunday beating

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Speaker 5: the Los Angeles Dodgers six to four, and the White

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Speaker 5: Add it up, and the White Sox went four and

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Speaker 5: League Baseball, and they are five and three in this

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Speaker 5: twelve game gauntlet that's now become eleven games because of

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Speaker 5: Chicago White Sox are back in first place, they are

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Speaker 5: thirty eight and thirty two, Colson Montgomery says this isn't

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Speaker 5: national level, many are still catching up to how well

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Speaker 5: this White Sox team has been playing in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: On this episode of The Sox Machine podcast, we'll be

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Speaker 5: recapping the weekend series win against the Dodgers. Are we

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Speaker 5: overlooking Chase my drafth Sir Anthony Dominguez once all the

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Speaker 5: save attempts? Is that a good idea? Also preview the

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Speaker 5: upcoming series as the White Sox head to the Bronx

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Speaker 5: to face the mighty New York Yankees, and we'll take

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Speaker 5: a look around major League Baseball at the end of

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Speaker 5: the show, joining me our Sox Machines, beer reporter James

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Speaker 5: Vegan and managing editor Jim Margulus, And gentlemen, what a

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Speaker 5: week for the Chicago White Sox. And start off with

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Speaker 5: this tweet that we got from one of our supporters

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Speaker 5: on Sox Machine. Goes by hot Dog Larry to hide

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Speaker 5: his true identity in real life, but hot Dog Larry

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Speaker 5: tweeted us this on Sunday. It's moments like this when

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Speaker 5: I can't wait for the Sox Machine podcast to hear

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Speaker 5: the justifiably pessimistic Jim Margulus and James Vegan confront the

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Speaker 5: fact this young White Sox squad has arrived slightly ahead

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Speaker 5: of schedule. This is for real, isn't it. Josh, Who's

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Speaker 5: got a spare starter or two? And I share this

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Speaker 5: tweet to start the show, James, because the excitement is real.

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Speaker 5: Been to all three games this weekend between the White

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Speaker 5: Sox and Dodgers, three sellouts. White Sox fans are buying

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Speaker 5: more and more into this team, and after they go

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Speaker 5: not much that's slowing down the excitement when it comes

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Speaker 5: to the Chicago White Sox. So in this homestand what

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Speaker 5: What fun is this?

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Speaker 1: Jim?

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Speaker 6: a lot of like even if they expected something good,

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Speaker 6: it would take a different shape. So there's tons of

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Speaker 6: surprise all over kind of the roster for how things

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Speaker 6: have clicked or how things have worked. But it's more

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Speaker 6: just like a state of like open mindedness. Like even

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Speaker 6: Jacob Gonzales like as much you know, I've written about

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Speaker 6: it now, like Keith Lawers written about the athletic, like

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Speaker 6: as much work as you see going into that project,

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Speaker 6: that was just one of that was just another burner

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Speaker 6: that was going and they saw they you know, I

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Speaker 6: hope to see results of it, but it wasn't like

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Speaker 6: something they were touting, like the roster is built around that.

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Speaker 6: So I think it's more a healthy approach of like

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Speaker 6: let's just try to make as many things better as

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Speaker 6: we can and the results of shaking out to this

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Speaker 6: rather than hey, they expect it to be you know,

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Speaker 6: trading for pitching at the deadline. The way they are

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Speaker 6: so ideally it's it's caught them by surprise in a

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Speaker 6: good way, because they were too busy just trying to

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Speaker 6: like create good, you know, player improvement projects across the organization,

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Speaker 6: and enough of them popped at once that they're in

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Speaker 6: this spot.

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Speaker 5: One of the favorite features that I we posted recently

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Speaker 5: on socks Machine is James getting a chance to chat

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Speaker 5: with Ryan Fuller and White Sox hitting coach Derek Schrulman.

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Speaker 5: We'll have a video on our YouTube channel of an

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Speaker 5: interview with Derek Schouwman that you can watch this week

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Speaker 5: on YouTube dot com slash socks Machine. So if you

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Speaker 5: love to get in the nitty gritty and understand the

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Speaker 5: offensive philosophy of the Chicago White Sox, and these are

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Speaker 5: the words that I wrote down in a post it note,

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Speaker 5: And this will even help me in the future as

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Speaker 5: long as this coaching staff and Ryan Fuller is still

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Speaker 5: with the Chicago White Sox. Decisions contact and damage James

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Speaker 5: and decisions, your swing, decisions, your approach at the plate.

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Speaker 5: Why are we swinging at this pitch? You're a swing

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Speaker 5: How do we get this to focus so we can

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Speaker 5: do the most damage? And then of course contact. Can

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Speaker 5: we hit the high fastball. If they're busting us two seamers,

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Speaker 5: can we adjust their swing to hit those. It was

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Speaker 5: very insightful, but you know, when you're in the press box,

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Speaker 5: especially with a bunch of folks from LA that have

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Speaker 5: covered now back to back World Series champions, are the

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Speaker 5: White Sox catching opponents and other people off guard by

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Speaker 5: just how effective they have been offensively.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if off guards exactly the way I

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Speaker 6: would put it, because I mean, I think they're proving

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Speaker 6: themselves to teams, but I don't, like, I wouldn't try

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Speaker 6: to throw at them the idea that they you know,

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Speaker 6: didn't take the socks seriously in some way, Like even

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Speaker 6: Yamamoto's game, they were talking about how much he just

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Speaker 6: like worked the corners relentlessly, like nibbling is only a

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Speaker 6: criticism if you can't do it. But he did for

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Speaker 6: a long time, like they were saying, like it really

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Speaker 6: wasn't until later innings that he got kind of more

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Speaker 6: aggressive in the zone because he had been able to

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Speaker 6: operate in a way where they weren't like eliminating any

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Speaker 6: of his pitches, his options, and he realized he could

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Speaker 6: kind of, you know, use a lot of different shapes

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Speaker 6: because they hadn't been able to He'd been commanding everything

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Speaker 6: so well that there there was no pitch shape that

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Speaker 6: they could kind of eliminate, like, well, he can't locate

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Speaker 6: that and then zero in on anything. So he was

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Speaker 6: able to kind of play around the heart of his

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Speaker 6: zone a bit more. But I think their approach throughout

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Speaker 6: the series from really them and the Braves both really

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Speaker 6: acknowledged that there was a fair amount of that they'd

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Speaker 6: be able cognitive Like, I think the sample is pretty established,

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Speaker 6: and certainly he wasn't in great shape at the time

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Speaker 6: they traded him, But like Miguel Vargas isn't someone that

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Speaker 6: the Dodgers don't realize was talented. You know, he was

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Speaker 6: very alloted prospect in their organization. So I think they're

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Speaker 6: like if a way to kind of to get me

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Speaker 6: to say, you know, something super positive about them and

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Speaker 6: beat their chest is like, I think they just were

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Speaker 6: really good this weekend. I don't think it was like

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Speaker 6: taking these teams by surprise or in some way where

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Speaker 6: they got you know, mollywow, because they're totally unprepared for

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Speaker 6: like the level of power they had. I think they're

517
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Speaker 6: just kind of a tough lineup to deal with at

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Speaker 6: this point, they got a decent amount of diversity that

519
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Speaker 6: they can attack you in different ways or like like

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Speaker 6: Sunday is what I keep coming back to, But they

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Speaker 6: were kind of in a pickle of imagi and like

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Speaker 6: facing the lineup a third time through, and how much

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Speaker 6: do you wanted to get in trouble versus.

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Speaker 1: You know, how much you want to get length out

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Speaker 1: of him?

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Speaker 6: And you know, the way the Dodgers are operating, especially now,

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Speaker 6: especially like what success they've had, it's it's all towards

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Speaker 6: like sustainable usage to get into the playoffs and in

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Speaker 6: a good spot healthy, Like they're not going to manage,

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Speaker 6: you know, a game in June super strictly, like, oh,

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Speaker 6: we can't let him and she in like get the

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Speaker 6: the third time to the order because he's vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: Dan.

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Speaker 6: It's like, we want to get six innings, so we

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Speaker 6: don't tax our bullpen too much, So we don't have

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Speaker 6: these usage spikes in here, because like they're going to

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Speaker 6: be in the playoffs, they don't need to like put

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Speaker 6: anyone at risk by you know, managing the rubber match

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Speaker 6: of the series against the sock super hard. But you

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Speaker 6: have Sheen in there, you have lefty Jack Dryer wa waiting.

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Speaker 6: You kind of wind up letting she and stay in

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Speaker 6: because you can't bring in Jack Dryer to face Miguel Vargas,

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Speaker 6: who has like this twelve hundred ops against lefties, and

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Speaker 6: that stalls out the process of like getting this lefty

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Speaker 6: and who could put this thing down before you have

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Speaker 6: runners on base. I still think they're probably a little

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Speaker 6: slow as far as like bringing Dryer out for like

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Speaker 6: Andrew Benaettenni, but Benetenni's then some reverse splits in the

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Speaker 6: past and the kind of you know, fudges things. But

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Speaker 6: by the time like Dryer like is coming in, like

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Speaker 6: the game is already on fire, and you know Colson's

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Speaker 6: kind of able to jump on him. So like the

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Speaker 6: Colson's had reverse blits as well. So like the attacking

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Speaker 6: the top of their order even without Murakami, just presents

555
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Speaker 6: like these weird complications that you know, teams don't want

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Speaker 6: to don't have like easy ways to deal with. And

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Speaker 6: I think that just got like even if they're banged

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Speaker 6: up a little bit, even if their pitching staff is

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Speaker 6: not at full health, like you're seeing the same problems

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Speaker 6: that the Tigers can't really figure out for how to

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Speaker 6: approach the latent games like half of that Braves and Dodgers,

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Speaker 6: and that's getting hit home. So I don't I don't

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Speaker 6: think it's necessarily like caught them by surprise other than

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Speaker 6: like this whole season's catching everyone by surprise and the aggregate.

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Speaker 6: But game to the game, I think it's kind of

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Speaker 6: established what these guys can do and they're they're doing

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Speaker 6: it repeatedly.

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Speaker 5: Well, one of the guys, maybe it's not a surprise, Jim,

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Speaker 5: but maybe some we haven't been talking about a whole lot.

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Speaker 5: And I'm wondering, are we overlooking Chase my draft in

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Speaker 5: a sense of like are we underestimating the impact that

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Speaker 5: he has. We know that he's a good leader, he's vocal,

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Speaker 5: he's one of the first guys to run out of

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Speaker 5: the field when there's a big moment or there's a

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Speaker 5: walk off win. But when you look at my draft

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Speaker 5: before Sunday's game, he had he was already at one

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Speaker 5: and a half war and in his last thirty games

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Speaker 5: the seven eighty two ops with a three fifty five

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Speaker 5: on base percentage, which that's a huge blessing as well,

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Speaker 5: and currently he's playing like a top five second basement

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Speaker 5: in the American League. His way to runs creat a

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Speaker 5: plus is over one hundred. Are we just overlooking chase

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Speaker 5: my draft because everybody has been excelling so much that

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Speaker 5: we just run out of time and we don't talk about, Hey,

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Speaker 5: my draft's been pretty good too in a sense.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kind of like the White Sox are flooding

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Speaker 8: the zone, but with good stuff.

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Speaker 7: Uh, not the way you normally hear that phrase.

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Speaker 8: Youse hard to keep track of all the surprising positive developments.

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Speaker 8: Like I guess attention you might use on my draft

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Speaker 8: is instead of going to Tristan Peters, because he's even

592
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Speaker 8: more random and solving even greater position of needs. So

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Speaker 8: I think like you're seeing some of the players who

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Speaker 8: may not produce highlight real or jaw dropping physical feats,

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Speaker 8: you know, the way that Montgomery can, or the way

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Speaker 8: like Antona.

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Speaker 7: She gets weird.

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Speaker 8: Like it just it's he's among the quieter producers the

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Speaker 8: White Sox have.

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Speaker 7: But I think I would say.

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Speaker 8: Me personally or maybe socks machine stance would be probably

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Speaker 8: more pro my draft than other Yeah, maybe like the

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Speaker 8: aggregate online chatter just because when Antonauchi's going off in

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Speaker 8: spring training.

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Speaker 7: People couldn't wait for.

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Speaker 8: Him, or I should say, like they're They were saying, well,

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Speaker 8: my drafts feeling the heats only a matter of time

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Speaker 8: until Antonagi takes over my drafts spot. And I was thinking,

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Speaker 8: like there's room for both, whether they're a great platoon,

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Speaker 8: the grind set twins as James has called them, or

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Speaker 8: injury happens, including you know my draft could get you know,

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Speaker 8: one of them could get hurt, like as somebody who's

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Speaker 8: advocated for you know your your catchphrases ball and air

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Speaker 8: mine is more bets than spots. Just don't worry about

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Speaker 8: blocking people until it actually happens, until you actually have

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Speaker 8: somebody who's uh just raking and triple a and has

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Speaker 8: no reason to be there and can't crack the rouster,

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Speaker 8: like even Jacob Gonzalez like he found a way on

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Speaker 8: so like there are always at least the White Sox,

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Speaker 8: like never worry about having too many bats or never

621
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Speaker 8: worry about who's going to get sent down or dfa'e

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Speaker 8: like look at Andrew bed and Tendi. Everybody want to

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Speaker 8: get rid of him, and now he's been fine and

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Speaker 8: slash good filling in from Mura comedy. He stepped up

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Speaker 8: so to the extent that like my drafts days. You

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Speaker 8: know a lot of people work like numbering my drafts days.

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Speaker 8: Based on the way Antonacci had the World Baseball Classic

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Speaker 8: and Spring Training Showcase, I think we've been of the sense.

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Speaker 7: Of, like he serves a purpose, Like he's.

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Speaker 8: A good like cog infielder, can work in the top

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Speaker 8: lineup against lefties, can serve other purposes, lower the lineup

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Speaker 8: against righty's knows where the ball is supposed to go,

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Speaker 8: a fundamentally sound good bass runner. My attitude towards a

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Speaker 8: player like Kim is he's your worst infielder, you're in

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Speaker 8: great shape. Like he's he's like the perfect worst infielder

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Speaker 8: because he's gonna be doing things that our rights and

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Speaker 8: his production offensively will be gravy. And I think you're

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Speaker 8: seeing that now, except like the you know, given that

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Speaker 8: the catcher has been a black hole and there have

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Speaker 8: been some you know, handedness issues in the lineup, like

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Speaker 8: his production is even more felt because the White Sox

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Speaker 8: during the times they've been trying to get you know,

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Speaker 8: figure out in for Murakami, or when Montgomery's back has

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00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 8: been flaring up. Uh, you know, they've tried to find

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Speaker 8: that one extra bat, and he stepped up to be

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Speaker 8: that one extra bat at times, and you feel that.

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Speaker 8: So I think he's in a good spots where you

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Speaker 8: know he his contributions are being recognized. But he's also

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Speaker 8: like doesn't have to be much more different than the

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Speaker 8: guy he's always been, which is a good defender at

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Speaker 8: second base, but it can also play some shortstop and

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Speaker 8: gets on base, works counts, puts the ball in play

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Speaker 8: when you have other guys who strike out maybe too

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Speaker 8: much to balance that out, and it all works out

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Speaker 8: pretty well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my trumps for position players currently ranks fifth when

657
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 5: it comes to war on fangrafts. The White Sox already

658
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 5: have four players that have accumulated two war or better

659
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 5: the last three seasons twenty twenty three to twenty twenty five.

660
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 5: Only two position players Coas Montgomery last year Louise Robert

661
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. So the White Sox are getting far

662
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 5: far more production out of their position players. And yeah,

663
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 5: there's only so much time on a podcast. We don't

664
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Speaker 5: want to make this a three hour college lecture, but

665
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 5: we can because there's so many positive things to talk

666
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 5: about when it comes to this White Sox offense. And

667
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 5: I just wanted to give Chase my draft a little love.

668
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 5: He was outstanding this week too. Defensively, he made some

669
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Speaker 5: really big plays, especially against the Dodgers on Sunday. Let's

670
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 5: do talk about one hour or sour topic, James, Sir

671
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Speaker 5: Anthony Domingus, this is to Alex Colome for me, man

672
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 5: like I felt, Will Venable called it right. He had

673
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: Grant Taylor facing the top of the order because it

674
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: was coming up in the seventh and eighth inning, so

675
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Speaker 5: Taylor faces the top in the middle of the order.

676
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 5: Taylor wasn't perfect. He allowed a run in each of

677
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Speaker 5: those innings. But the White Sox are up three. Sir

678
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 5: Anthony Dimingus wants to close. He wants those saves. Baby,

679
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: it's the bottom of the order. This should be an

680
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 5: easy runway. Why so much turbulence. Domingus walks the leadoff

681
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 5: hitter on four straight pitches, and Freddy Frieven's got a

682
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 5: chance to hit the go ahead home run before dimingu

683
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 5: strikes him out. Diveingus still gets to save. But is

684
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 5: this what causes I don't want to save friction? Let's

685
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 5: call it hesitation right now from White Sox coaching staff

686
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 5: to give dimingus every save opportunity in the ninth inning.

687
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 6: I mean the control outgies have been part of it. Certainly,

688
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 6: it feels like it takes some time to get going

689
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 6: or to lock in command wise in a lot of

690
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 6: his outings, but I think large like that that's certainly

691
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Speaker 6: part of it. I would say that, like I've especially

692
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Speaker 6: with his career history where he has been a guy

693
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 6: with significant platoon splits. Obviously they bought the idea that

694
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 6: his splitter would be a neutralizer in that aspect, which

695
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 6: is fairly new to his arsenal kind of developable year.

696
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 6: I still think they'd run into the fundamental thing for

697
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 6: a coaching staff that cares so much about handedness and

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Speaker 6: their strategy, they would be encountering the fact that, like,

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00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 6: we have better leverage outing options for lefties when they

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Speaker 6: come about and they're in the heart of the order

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Speaker 6: like Grant Taylor, you know, hasn't looked good his last

702
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 6: couple outings, at least not up to his Grant Tailor standards,

703
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Speaker 6: but like is phenomenal against lefties, like to agree, like

704
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Speaker 6: it'd be unfair to call it reverse splits because like

705
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Speaker 6: he's good against right handers, he's a leverage relieverer against

706
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 6: right handers. But like the forcing curveball, like it's so vertical,

707
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 6: like he's so cutright that like there's not even like

708
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 6: the normal arm side not it really plays platoon neutral

709
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Speaker 6: on top of the fact, like Neukem's been great and

710
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Speaker 6: like Brian Hudson's been this revelation, and they're both left handed,

711
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Speaker 6: and they're kind of like both have these this traditional

712
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 6: like wide left handed angle where.

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Speaker 1: You look at that and think.

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Speaker 6: Like even if like the results are a little bit

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Speaker 6: more more neutral, like that should play against left hander

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Speaker 6: And it's certainly like analyzes and swing pass like they

717
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 6: probably find left handers where like that looks like the

718
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Speaker 6: best option based on pitch shapes or whatever fancy stuff.

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Speaker 1: Like I think they would still.

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Speaker 6: Run into that, And Sir Anthony obviously hasn't been buttoned

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Speaker 6: up enough to where that's even like kind of a

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Speaker 6: real question of like whether this is a better option

723
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Speaker 6: to it. So I feel like they'd run into that

724
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Speaker 6: in some way. I wonder like, is there ways to

725
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 6: get him working more even if it's not you know,

726
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 6: even if not like finding Rammium into like the ninth

727
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 6: anymore often it's just that he's in terms of raw

728
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 6: and this can happen the closes, but usually not the

729
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 6: closes of winning teams. But he's well behind Hudson, Taylor,

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Speaker 6: and uh Nukem in innings and he hasn't been on

731
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Speaker 6: the IL at any point. Like he's close to like

732
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Speaker 6: ten behind some of those guys. And obviously Taylor and

733
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 6: Newcomb have more multi eating potential, but it just seems

734
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 6: like the run out of opportunities to use him in

735
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Speaker 6: some way or run out of obvious lanes, and if

736
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Speaker 6: you know, if anything opening even further up from the

737
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Speaker 6: closer lane is their possibility is to get him just

738
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Speaker 6: like more regularly active, because he regularly comes in and

739
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 6: just looks like someone who hasn't pitched.

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Speaker 1: In three or four days, and it like we.

741
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Speaker 6: As not to give him excuses for him, but like

742
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 6: it's almost like not until that Freddy Freeman at bat

743
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 6: that you just see him like like landing the back

744
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 6: door or sweeper that he wants to hit to start

745
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 6: out on a bat to get ahead of people, or

746
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 6: just commanding his fastball. Well, it's it started to come

747
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 6: together in bits and pieces, and you know, obviously it's

748
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 6: his job, especially someone who got like ten million dollars

749
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 6: a year who got annoying to the closer and obviously

750
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 6: wants to be the closer. I think the way he

751
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 6: I know it will it was delicate to present it

752
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 6: in an article because like I thought he'd be lying

753
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 6: to you if he didn't notice that he's not being

754
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 6: used as a normal closer, and that wasn't a surprise, like.

755
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Speaker 1: Call what it is.

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Speaker 6: And also like he reiterated, like I'm happy the team

757
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 6: is winning. I'm willing to do whatever they want. It's

758
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 6: ultimately their call. And you know, has this great reputation

759
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 6: of being like a very team for his guy, and

760
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 6: everyone's lathering praise on him, and you know there could

761
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 6: be a little bit of like praise him for being

762
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 6: a good soldier before he has an opportunity to be

763
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Speaker 6: a bad.

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Speaker 1: Soldier element to it.

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Speaker 6: But like everyone is talking up about how he handle it,

766
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 6: so like I feel like that it wasn't like him

767
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 6: like acting out in some way to note that like

768
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 6: difference in his usage. But I wonder if like there's

769
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Speaker 6: a way to get him like working to the mix

770
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Speaker 6: a bit more proactively and just in terms of like

771
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Speaker 6: it's almost like the closer who doesn't get to work

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Speaker 6: on a bad team where he can go days without

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Speaker 6: being used. But now it's a situation where it's just

774
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Speaker 6: like if we run into a pocket with a lefty

775
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 6: at all, we have like we prefer using our three

776
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 6: other leverage guys and like that way, like Sarranton just

777
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 6: stays in this weird space where he just doesn't work

778
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 6: as often and it's hard to find him like either

779
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 6: the perfect le a ninth inning opportunity or the perfect

780
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Speaker 6: leverage opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Some of that's on him.

782
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 6: If you don't like it, pitch better, But it seems

783
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 6: like a this is an important piece just in terms

784
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 6: of like looking at your bullpen, even if it's not

785
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 6: about like making him the traditional closer and making him

786
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Speaker 6: happy to get forty saves.

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Speaker 1: You need him to be right there with the.

788
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Speaker 6: Other three in terms of importance and reliability, and you know,

789
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Speaker 6: how do we get him there rather than talking about

790
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 6: like what he isn't or what he hasn't done yet

791
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 6: this season, I'm a little skeptical that he's ever gonna

792
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 6: get to like all star closer level production. In a way,

793
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 6: that like is pushing these other like guys who are

794
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 6: proven to be really good against lefties out of those opportunities.

795
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 6: But I feel like Sir Anthony Demingos has been a good,

796
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 6: useful reliever on playoff teams for years now, and there's

797
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 6: got to be some path to getting them there and

798
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 6: making him feel like more consistent than he's been so far.

799
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Speaker 5: All right, So it sounds like a to do project

800
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 5: for the White Sox that James is giving them indirectly

801
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 5: figure out to pitch their entity Domingus more so he

802
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 5: can get out of his rut because I thought he

803
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 5: had a clean runway today and he made it a

804
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 5: bumpy ride, but still landed the plane and at the

805
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 5: end of the day, that's all that really matters. Even

806
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 5: though it does feel very Alex Columme Columee still racked up,

807
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 5: saved to the White Sox, and they they still won't

808
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 5: get I mean it.

809
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 6: Taste his blood, not be able to get Alex Freelan out,

810
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 6: But then you get pages and strike out Freddy Freeman

811
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Speaker 6: on his route to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: That that felt very like Columne coded.

813
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Speaker 5: Quickly. Here's some White Sox news and some positive White

814
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 5: Sox news, Caleb Bonnemer has been promoted to the Birmingham Barons. Jim,

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Speaker 5: this feels about time, right, Yeah.

816
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 8: I would say if it feels a little bit early,

817
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 8: because the strikeout rates is still a little bit elevated

818
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 8: and there are some games where they clump up on

819
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 8: him to keep it aloft. But I think overall it's

820
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 8: trending downwards. The walks have started to replace the strikeouts,

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00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 8: which reflects less chasing. So yeah, it sunse if it's early,

822
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 8: it's only a little bit, and he seems like the

823
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 8: kind of hitter is sturdy enough to figure it out

824
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 8: either way. So yeah, it's given the power he is

825
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 8: hitting for at Winston Salem. Looking forward to seeing how

826
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 8: that translates with so Southern League. That should be very informative,

827
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 8: and if the Homers keep coming the way they were

828
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 8: with Winston Salem, they'll be something.

829
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. Another puzzle piece for the White Sox that everybody

830
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 5: tries to figure out. Where's Rock Scharlowski going to play?

831
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Speaker 5: Let's not forget about Caleb Bonnemer, who continues to rake

832
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 5: so very exciting news. Also exciting news, Noah Schultz and

833
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 5: Kyle Teel are not flying with the White Sox to

834
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 5: New York instead, James, it sounds like they are heading

835
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 5: to Charlotte. What's the latest with Schultz and Teal?

836
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are.

837
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Speaker 6: Teal has been running the bases and on the field

838
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 6: and catching in full year in full squats for a

839
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 6: bit now. And Schultz had a bullpen God was it

840
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 6: Saturday Sunday? Either way, it went fine. He felt good

841
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 6: after it. I talked to him a little bit Sunday morning,

842
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 6: and I felt like almost a testament to how he's

843
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 6: feeling that. You know, he was just talking about like

844
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 6: the work he did on a slider, like the fact

845
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 6: that the knee wasn't bothering was a little bit secondary.

846
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 6: He did say, like it is something that he has

847
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 6: to be like conscious of going forward. And I think

848
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 6: that's only fair given that it's you know, cropped up

849
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 6: in multiple seasons, but at least for now and you're

850
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 6: trying to figure out, like what's the future of this

851
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 6: rotation slot. Yeah, like watching Haggen Smith every week has

852
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 6: has some of its feel, but you know, can they

853
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 6: stave off making a larger call on that by just

854
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 6: like getting through a bullpen day and then like no,

855
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 6: Schultz gets a rehabit assignment or how many outings? Does

856
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 6: the need ultimately comes like a bigger question than that,

857
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 6: Like I'm trying to look up when's the last time

858
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 6: he threw? Would be May twenty fourth, and that's, you know,

859
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 6: legitimately three weeks since his last full length start. Does

860
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 6: that need two rehab starts? I guess we'll see. Could

861
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 6: you if you get them up to three four innings,

862
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 6: do you feel like you can mostly kind of bulk

863
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 6: boy it from there? I think they're kind of certainly

864
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 6: in a squeeze at this point. But if he's feeling

865
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 6: well and the stuff looks good and he's showing like

866
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 6: the two sliders that he's working on, I certainly think

867
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 6: like Noah Schultz feels like a more realistic consideration than

868
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 6: trying to make it feel like David Samlin or Haigen

869
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 6: Smith are ready when you're kind of see them working

870
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 6: through issues that aren't disqualifying, but certainly feel like guys

871
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 6: who have not yet graduated as triple A starters to

872
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 6: a degree.

873
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 5: And Kyle Teal hasn't played in a game since the

874
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 5: World Baseball Classic, so that's uh, let's all.

875
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 6: Be paid and be crazy. I think that's where it

876
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 6: was at a little bit last time. You want to

877
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 6: see him like catch back to that games and be fine.

878
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 6: So if it's a weaker ten days build up to that,

879
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 6: that wouldn't be.

880
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: Out of line.

881
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 5: Well, Cleveland is next week for the White Sox at home,

882
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 5: so that would be a good target for Kyle Teel

883
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 5: as long as that knee holds up. Also, if you

884
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 5: notice on social media Moon to Tacomer or comedy podcast

885
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 5: listeners is jogging. I wouldn't say it's a full sprint.

886
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 5: Maybe he's at fifty percent, but he's starting to move.

887
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 5: So some good signs for the White Sox and the

888
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 5: injury front, which only adds the excitement of a thirty

889
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 5: eight and thirty two team for the White Sox. They

890
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 5: head to New York as they flew to New York

891
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 5: on Sunday night from Chicago, shortly after their win against

892
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 5: Los Angeles Dodgers. Monday is an off day as they

893
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 5: get ready to face the New York Yankees, and the

894
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 5: scene in New York. I am sure you have seen

895
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 5: it on television, news and in social media is absolutely crazy.

896
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 5: As the New York Knicks won their first NBA title

897
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 5: in fifty three years, so there's a lot of energy

898
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 5: in that city right now. And for the Yankees, they're

899
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 5: back in first place in the America League East. They

900
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: are forty three and twenty seven this year. They're just

901
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 5: a game ahead of the Tama Bay Rays at home

902
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 5: this year, the Yankees are nineteen and twelve. They've won

903
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 5: their last two games. They are seven to three in

904
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 5: their last ten. Your bitching problems for this series. Each

905
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 5: of these games is at six oh five pm Central

906
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 5: Time on Tuesday. Great pitching matchup. It's the Dark Davis

907
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 5: Martin for the White Sox against Garrett Cole. Wednesday it

908
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 5: is Anthony Kay against old friend Carlos Ruddan. And on

909
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 5: Thursday we'll see if Sean Berke can bounce back. He'll

910
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 5: be going up against Ryan Weathers. I also got a

911
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 5: chance to chat with Lenn Casper and Connor McKnight on Sunday.

912
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 5: I want to give a cap tip to ESPN one

913
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 5: thousand and the White Sox rate team. Len invited me

914
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 5: up to the radio booth as my father in law, Roy,

915
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 5: which I mentioned a few times on this podcast, has

916
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 5: been dealing with cancer. Thank you to everyone that has

917
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 5: reached out and sent your positive thoughts and your prayers

918
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 5: for Roy's recovery. His prostate surgery was a success. He

919
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 5: does not need further treatment, and he felt strong enough

920
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: to finally go to a White Sox game. He's been

921
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 5: a White Sox fan since nineteen fifty nine, so it's

922
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 5: very exciting. Of course, next week his Father's Day, so

923
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 5: we spoiled him. We took him to the three hundred level.

924
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 5: Len invited him up to the radio booth and he

925
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 5: got a chance to take some pictures and taken the

926
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 5: first inning from the radio booth. So thank you Len

927
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: and Connor. That means a great deal to me. But

928
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: Jim lenn was telling me they have to fly in

929
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 5: on Sunday because of the hysteria with the Knicks. And

930
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 5: I'm not saying you are a New York expert, but

931
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 5: for somebody who lived in Albany for years and visited

932
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 5: New York City. The parade gym for the Knicks is

933
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 5: on Thursday, and that's getaway day for the White Sox,

934
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 5: even though it's a night game, so there could be

935
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 5: a lot of distractions for everybody involved, or at least

936
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 5: trying to get to the Bronx from their Midtown hotel

937
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 5: for these games. It'll be interesting to see in how

938
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 5: the White Sox players react for this road series with

939
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 5: everything that's going on in New York City.

940
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's basically the Bears in Chicago, like times three

941
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 8: or four when it comes to the population in terms

942
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 8: of the gravitational poll they have when things are going well,

943
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 8: the nets don't really matter. The nets do not divide

944
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 8: the attention. It's always been about the Knicks, so it's

945
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 8: not surprise that things have you have to plan around

946
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 8: just the amount of bodies that are going to be

947
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 8: out there, that are constantly out there. I was not

948
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 8: necessarily rooting for the Knicks, just old habits die hard

949
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 8: of just uh not wanting to see good things happen

950
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 8: to them.

951
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 7: But it is you know when you.

952
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 8: See just the different kinds of celebrations that come out

953
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 8: in different neighborhoods, people making their own fun and you know,

954
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 8: not the property destruction, but people having fun.

955
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 7: Uh, that's always heartwarming. I would say at this point.

956
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 8: That's that's kind of what I take it took away

957
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 8: from it like next but people smiling.

958
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 7: And uh and and bringing their own flavor to it.

959
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 5: Thumbs up for this series. Tuesday night, as I mentioned

960
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 5: a fantastic pitching matchup with Garrett Cole for the Yankees

961
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 5: and Davis Martin for the White Sox, James Martin looked

962
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 5: very strong against the Atlanta Braves six scoreless innings. He

963
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 5: mentioned in his post game that that extra time off

964
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 5: really helped him. He's going to be on six days

965
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 5: rest for this start. Is it just is that simple

966
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 5: that moving forward, whatever extra days the White Socks can

967
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 5: buy Davis Martin, that that's going to be the right

968
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 5: move to make sure that he continues to be this strong.

969
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 6: I don't know if he would endorse that. I think

970
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 6: it's certainly something that they want to address when it

971
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 6: comes up.

972
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: I was kind of asking.

973
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 6: Around the other day about whether if there's.

974
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: Any element of.

975
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 6: Maybe extra suspicion that this team is going to be

976
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 6: needing to keep their starters fresh through October, not just

977
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 6: two October that weighs in, and they kind of downplayed it,

978
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 6: but saying like they got to be conscious of the

979
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 6: fact that, like they don't have many guys who have

980
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 6: pitched more than like one hundred and fifty innings in

981
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 6: a season before, like they would already be on the

982
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 6: watch for opportunities to get extra days. And I don't

983
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 6: think that's like solely to Davis Martin, but Martin certainly

984
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 6: spoke about it in a way that grabs your attention

985
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 6: and saying that acknowledging that he felt like he was

986
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 6: just physically exhausted in the Twins series. I mean, there's

987
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 6: no way to quibble really with six shutout innings against

988
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 6: the Braves offense with no walks and six strikeouts. At

989
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 6: the same time, I didn't think it was like the

990
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 6: best stuff or like the Crispus Martin outing of the season.

991
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 6: I feel like he got by in like Davis Martin fashion.

992
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 6: There's like a line out with the basils load and

993
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 6: stuff like that. So I think it's certainly something to

994
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 6: watch for with him, and certainly something they could turn

995
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 6: to again for somebody who I don't think his hit.

996
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 6: He hasn't hit like I think one forty four is

997
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 6: around his max for the season. You know, he's done

998
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 6: that a few times, and I think that's that certainly

999
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 6: applies to like Sean Berger as well, and more than

1000
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 6: applies to Noah Schultz or whoever else is in the

1001
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 6: younger part.

1002
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: Of this picture. That might mix in.

1003
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 6: Anthony Kay, is you know, have a bit longer seasons

1004
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 6: than there was belt with Japan, but it hasn't pitched

1005
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 6: like all the way.

1006
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: Through October before.

1007
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 6: God, I can't believe him considering how they keep Anthony Kay,

1008
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 6: you know, Sanding's in a good place for late October,

1009
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 6: but here we are considering that. So yeah, I think

1010
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 6: that's going to be something you'd see turned to a lot.

1011
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 6: It does seem like it's going to be a bit

1012
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 6: more ad hoc, like responding to like this guy looks

1013
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 6: like he's worn down or he's you know, even saying something.

1014
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 5: You know.

1015
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 6: Mostly the takeaway I got from starting pitches is that

1016
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 6: they'll never say something. They're all wired to try to

1017
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 6: get themselves through the game in front of them, and like,

1018
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 6: I think we gotta not a single lot of individual fan.

1019
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 6: But I may have been making fun of you too,

1020
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 6: Davis Martin about like the idea that someone was like,

1021
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 6: why are they bringing Colson back? Shouldn't they wait until

1022
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 6: he's like one hundred and ten percent? And that'd be like, whoa,

1023
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 6: you know, when he's dead? What do you mean there'll

1024
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 6: never be one hundred and ten percent? Again, they're pro athletes.

1025
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 6: They play every day, they're constantly playing through swortus. It

1026
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 6: would be very easy if it was a question of

1027
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 6: if you feel something, you sit like they're constantly feeling something,

1028
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 6: you know. David's even joke like sometimes you throw a

1029
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 6: pitch and feel something, you don't feel it again for

1030
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 6: four months, Like it just doesn't work this way, where

1031
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 6: it's like they're ignoring this obvious thing that they should

1032
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 6: give into. So it's always a very difficult thing to

1033
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 6: pin down, but they're very where I think you should

1034
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 6: anticipate other points of the season where they're going to

1035
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 6: do this or look for extra rest for guys beyond Martin.

1036
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 6: What it only like slams home is the idea of

1037
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 6: they need more depths because right now they're literally trying

1038
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 6: to figure out how much how long they can stave

1039
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 6: off trying to find a fifth starter, let alone like

1040
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 6: how to find easy ways to rest their five starters.

1041
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 6: So I think that plays into and wondering like, man,

1042
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 6: what do they do when truth Thorpe gets back, or

1043
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 6: if David sand looks like he's ready for a new

1044
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 6: turn in rotation. I think that that depth will be

1045
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 6: pretty easy to find as much as we never truly

1046
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 6: find more bats and spots. That's doubly true for the

1047
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 6: pitching staff, where there'll be plenty of opportunities to look

1048
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 6: for extra rest, like if only they could have the

1049
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 6: blessing of having six starters or having a spot starter

1050
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 6: they feel good about piping in there so they can

1051
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 6: give guys a blow. Yeah, they'll be hunting for that

1052
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 6: probably if the trade deadline, in addition to just looking

1053
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 6: for opportunities to do it, you know, with your your

1054
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 6: farm system death.

1055
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 5: For the sixth time of this podcast, Yes, we know

1056
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 5: the White Socks need the trade for pitching.

1057
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: In a good way way where you need to because

1058
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: it's a good way.

1059
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 5: Yes, in a very good way. Jim old Friend Alert

1060
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 5: White Sox against Carlos Hurdan. This should be a fun matchup.

1061
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, he looks like he's close to what he was.

1062
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 7: He just walking more guys than usual.

1063
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 8: I think that's where the White Sox and this new

1064
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 8: patient uh game plan that they have of having an

1065
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 8: idea what they're going to do and a better idea

1066
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 8: of what it's supposed to look like when they come

1067
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 8: into the zone and not chasing so much. Uh. If

1068
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 8: Rodan is walking you know better every other inning and

1069
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 8: pitches pile up, you know, perhaps they can use it

1070
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 8: against them. But also like Rodin is a lefty and

1071
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 8: the White Sox are still trying to figure out their

1072
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 8: best lineup against them, So good test for the right

1073
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 8: handed bats to come in. And also like the left

1074
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 8: handed bats, like the ones who have to bat, the

1075
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 8: ones who had like Jacob Gonzalez having a bet against

1076
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 8: Chris Sale, Like, yeah, think that's what you're going to

1077
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 8: see here in terms of the same thing of just

1078
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 8: good test for the righties, good test for some lefties

1079
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 8: who might get a tough assignments, and you know, I

1080
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 8: wonder how much of the game plan is just trying

1081
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 8: to wait them out or extended bats to for somebody

1082
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 8: else to knock them down.

1083
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 5: The White Sox will be facing three straight left handed

1084
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Speaker 5: starters later this week in road on Weathers and Tek

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Speaker 5: Schooble on Friday. Huge thank you to our Socks Machine subscribers.

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Speaker 5: We will be sending James next weekend to Detroit to

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Speaker 5: cover that series between the White Sox and the Tigers

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Speaker 5: with schoolbul coming back. He was on eighty pitches as

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Speaker 5: the Tigers lost the Guardians in that start, but Scooba

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Speaker 5: was hitting one hundred miles an hour, so it seems

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Speaker 5: like he is close to full strength, and we'll see

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Speaker 5: if they push the pitch limit. But something to watch

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Speaker 5: this week is how did the White Sox fare against

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Speaker 5: these three left handed starters. Before we wrap up this

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Speaker 5: podcast quickly, we'll take a look around Major League Baseball

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Speaker 5: and what is catching our attention. I'll start, gentlemen. The

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Speaker 5: Athletics had their last Vegas week. They played six games.

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Speaker 5: In those six games against the Brewers and Rockies, thirty

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Speaker 5: five home runs were hit. A combined one hundred and

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Speaker 5: two runs were scored. Do the math. That is an

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Speaker 5: average of seventeen runs combined in each of these games.

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Speaker 5: The Rockies scored twenty three against the Athletics on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: So if that is the foreshadowing of what it's going

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Speaker 5: to be like for the Athletics playing games in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 5: major League Baseball may have accidentally found their new cours

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Speaker 5: field in Mexico City. Mexico City, that's a good point, Jim,

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Speaker 5: in the near future. So that's what caught my attention.

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Speaker 5: The ball flies in Las Vegas. Jim, what's catching your

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Speaker 5: attention around Major League Baseball Jacob Izerowski.

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Speaker 8: I mean that's kind of we haven't talked about him,

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Speaker 8: so everybody else is talking about it. We haven't but

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Speaker 8: fifteen strikeouts over nine innings on ninety five pitches. I'm

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Speaker 8: looking at game log now that opening day started ahead

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Speaker 8: against the White Sox, where the White Sox looked over match,

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Speaker 8: and you're thinking, like, that's how terrible this White Sox

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Speaker 8: offense is going to be. Now that's his ninth most

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Speaker 8: effective start of the season out of fourteen. I thought

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Speaker 8: last year that the league was too cute, giving him

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Speaker 8: an All Star appearance and trying to make like Paul

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Speaker 8: Skins happen again when he wasn't Paul Skans, and.

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Speaker 7: Like, eh, no, it looks like Paul Skins are better

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Speaker 7: than Paul Skin.

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Speaker 8: Like it's pretty incredible, Like how he's meeting all this

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Speaker 8: perlatives and then some all so looking at the Brewers

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Speaker 8: Andrew Vaughan, did you see what he's hitting?

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Speaker 7: No, he had had a down day today, So let

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Speaker 7: me update his numbers here. Uh it is three fifty

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Speaker 7: four four.

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Speaker 8: One good news is it's healthy for the White Sox

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Speaker 8: that nobody cares like you're not hearing it, so ultimately

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Speaker 8: it's good like the that the White Sox, like it

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Speaker 8: doesn't resonate the way it did last year. Also just

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Speaker 8: it's heavily like he's hitting five hundred against lefties, so

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Speaker 8: like he's an ideal situation with the Brewers and it's

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Speaker 8: working out for him, and things are working out with

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Speaker 8: the White Sox. So I think you know, another sign

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Speaker 8: that the White Sox have advanced to a healthier organization,

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Speaker 8: like we talked about the Curtis.

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Speaker 7: Mead, is that players leave they succeed elsewhere.

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Speaker 8: And it's not like incredibly damning that it didn't happen

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Speaker 8: with the White Sox. More like, ah, that's a shame

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Speaker 8: or kind of unfortunate, but good for him. And the

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Speaker 8: White Sox have their own things like four.

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Speaker 7: Too as well.

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Speaker 5: It's funny with the Brewers, they traded Freddy Peralta and

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Speaker 5: they have a better ace. James, what's catching your attention

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Speaker 5: around Major League Baseball?

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Speaker 6: I mean I've been curious about the Cardinals because they

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00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 6: feel like an l White Sox.

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Speaker 1: In terms of teams.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, both externally and probably organizationally, had like no notion

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Speaker 6: of like wor competing this year, like doing their prospect list,

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Speaker 6: Like there was just so much volume because they didn't

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Speaker 6: have like you did that on Fangraunds right like there,

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Speaker 6: they didn't have like the Twins level fire sale where

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Speaker 6: they'd like traded half the team all at.

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Speaker 1: Once, but they really made like so.

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Speaker 6: Many trades, like there was just half their farm system

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Speaker 6: was just all trade at was just some big trades,

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Speaker 6: small trades, weird trades, all all shapes and sizes, and

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Speaker 6: so you felt like there's supposed to be like a

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Speaker 6: depth in there. There's simultaneously a depth of their farm system,

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Speaker 6: but wasn't supposed to be the depth of their major

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00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 6: league roster to sustain this, And like they're kind of

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Speaker 6: weird White Sox analogs, Like Jordan Walker is a little

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Speaker 6: Coulson Montgomery coded in like this top prospect we like

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Speaker 6: went to this down period. His was longer than Coulson's

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Speaker 6: and you know, his current height is probably at least

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Speaker 6: offensively higher than Coulson's of Colslon as he's got to

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Speaker 6: your defensive metrics that kind of put its value up

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01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 6: right along. Like Alec Barlsen feels very like Miguil Vargasil

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Speaker 6: to them, and they're facing similar questions, like they're pitching

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Speaker 6: is clearly light to sustain themselves for to stay in

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Speaker 6: this race if they really want to, and you know

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Speaker 6: they're they're facing much more of a real legit powerhouse

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Speaker 6: with the Brewers at the top of that division that

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Speaker 6: probably shooting for the division title feels a bit more

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Speaker 6: unrealistic to them. But they have a still kind of

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Speaker 6: decision to make of like do we really want to

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Speaker 6: push forward for the pitching that are we clearly need

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Speaker 6: both rotation and bullpen wise to contend certainly what we

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Speaker 6: get if we were this was like a real process

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Speaker 6: of trying to contend, or do we rely on just

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Speaker 6: our internal depth that certainly has options but maybe not

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Speaker 6: the most ready ones and putting them in the test

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Speaker 6: down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Is that how they want to handle it. They're kind

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Speaker 1: of interesting to me.

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Speaker 6: I would say that if I was keeping this White

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Speaker 6: Sox focused, I think I want to credit Scott Murkin

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Speaker 6: at mlbt com. They've carved out the lane of focusing

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Speaker 6: on the Mike vasilwan as being like the big cultural

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Speaker 6: talisman that's producing the White Sox offensive success, So like

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Speaker 6: we should stick out our own territory That's why I

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Speaker 6: think I'm focusing much more on the White Sox, adapting

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Speaker 6: Clarence Carter's Body nineteen eighty six hit Stroking as their

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Speaker 6: Hellum Run celebration song as the real secrets of their

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Speaker 6: offensive success. Sexually provocative eighties blues music I think is

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Speaker 6: the real secret sauce. But you know he has it's

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Speaker 6: it's it's it's different. You know, it's an interfaith console

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Speaker 6: and kind of the mojo that the White Sox are recording. Uh,

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Speaker 6: and I think there's room for people to embrace multiple series.

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01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 6: So that's not necessarily around baseball, but more rattling around

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Speaker 6: my head. It's sort of a you know, off not

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Speaker 6: serious analysis that I have, you know, to offer.

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess I'm gonna have to add that to

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Speaker 5: the Spotify playlist. This is the power in the White Sox,

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Speaker 5: the victory.

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Speaker 6: If the kids are around, maybe maybe maybe wait till

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Speaker 6: they go to bed.

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Speaker 5: Okay, sounds good, sounds good. Well, let us know in

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Speaker 5: the comments section what's keeping your guys' attention around Major

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Speaker 5: League Baseball? But that will do it for this episode

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