WEBVTT - Eyes Up Here: Shelly Martinez Is Back 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:10.639 All right, it's get going right here right now. This 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.200 is Eyes up Here, and you're listening and watching and 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.240 taking a brand new episode of Eyes up Here on 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.840 our Patreon channel as well as on the Creative Control 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.400 podcast network. He didn't know by now. My name is 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.200 Chad and every single week I'm joined here by the 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.640 star of this show, the Vampire Girl. Today she's got 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:32.920 a very cool shurt on. We'll hear about that soon, 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.120 but it is the queen of extreme frenzy. I am 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:41.080 an honorary Vampire Girl today with my new shirt, and 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.479 like you said, we'll talk about that. But everything going 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:50.080 all right. Everything's great. Snow abunding my residence but otherwise 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.920 very good. Yes, the kids were chopping at the bit 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.360 to get outside today and I was like, well, mommy 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.600 has to work, but as soon as I'm done, we'll 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.240 venture out. So uh and you want to start hot? 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.120 I do? Is she here? We start about as hot 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.039 as you could possibly get it going. So I'm wearing 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.839 this shirt because I want to honor our guest today, 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:17.200 Miss Shelley Martinez is here. Where are you? This is 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.440 what I did all day yesterday. I made a studio 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.479 in my girlage. How beautiful? Is that I? At first 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.640 I said to myself, is that a ferris wheel behind her? 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.040 And why is it my time? And where is she? 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:30.920 But then I was like, wait a minute, No, that 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:35.720 looks great. I'm in my beat cave. I love it. 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.400 It looks so good. This is the first time me 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.240 using it because I spent like all day yesterday like 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.920 putting it all together because on the other side of 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.240 my garage is my gym. So it's like I've been 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.120 really trying to like focus on because there's this really 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.320 cute place in downtown La like to shoot and it 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.360 kind of has this vibe and it's like, dude, I'm 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.320 spending all this money on this like space, why not 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.560 just like make my own and just like make it better. 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.920 Like my couch sucks, it's my old couch, but you 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.960 know they'll get there. I'll get a little couch and 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.200 you can't even see your couch because your boobs take 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:13.160 up the whole lens. Yeah, it's exactly. Look I'm sporting today. Yes, 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.960 I said in your intro, I said, I'm an honorary 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:20.400 vampire girl. Absolutely, I'm not trying to steal your gimmick 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.800 by any means, but she was nice enough to send 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.720 me a shirt and I said, come on the show. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.919 Let's promote whatever you're doing and chit chat because it's 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.959 been a hot minute. I haven't seen your face since 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:37.960 we did the Bikini Swimsuits Spectacular Showdown whatever it was called, 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:43.800 was August August. Yeah, that's terrible. You know, her and 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.320 I are the worst. We will text back and forth, 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.960 you know, because we've kept in touch now for a 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.160 million years, right, and we're always like, we need to FaceTime, 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.560 we need to sit. We never get around to it, 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.960 and it's terrible and we really need to do that. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:07.040 I agree, Well, at least we're here. We can kinda 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:12.080 and I'm just the spectator. So FaceTime, I'm just saying 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.800 how shitty we are because we keep saying we're going 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.720 to do it and we never do it. But you're 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.400 here now. So what has been going on in the 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:25.639 life of uh miss Martinez? Fill us in let us know, Well, 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.120 a whole lot. Of course, I have my secret society, 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.760 that's always a given. But you know, ever since I 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:36.119 was in TNA, I had this idea of having this 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.480 like boutique where it would be items of things that 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.640 not only that I would come up with in design, 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.000 like shirts for example, but like, you know, stuff that 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.000 I love, because something I hate more than anything is 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:51.800 wasting my money on products that like just because this 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.400 person says it's good because they're getting paid, Like I've 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:58.000 wasted so much money. So I wanted to bring like 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.520 a place where people can like get the things that 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.160 I love without like cutting the middleman kind of thing. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.480 So back in TNA, before social media was what it was, 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:08.760 I just kind of saw it as like having like 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.640 this boutique of stuff that I just love. But of course, 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.800 with wrestling, it takes over, so I had to put 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.440 it on the back burner, put it in the back burner. 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.080 Last couple of years, I've been trying to figure out 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.640 how to get a damn resell license, and like it 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.039 just took me forever. It was super easy, and I 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.000 got it and then lo and behold, I was like, 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.839 I'm making it happen. So I built my website. I 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.560 got merchant there, you know, and already I'm just really 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.320 proud of what it has because it has my shirts 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.080 like you look so lovely in and they come in 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:39.520 Vampire Guy as well, and I have some vinyl in there. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.400 Because I love music. I'm a vinyl collector, so there's vinyl. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:47.120 I have some flower hair clips because dumb Shelley. Let's 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.279 see what else do I have in there? I have 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.120 something else? What was Oh? I have like a digital download. 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:53.839 So it's just a bunch of fun stuff. And it's 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.840 like I do have my official merchandise on there, but 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.760 it's nothing to do with like my secrets societ or 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.280 posting like stuff for like my sexy content. It's like 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.799 literally my little online boutique that it just so happens. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.560 That's where my stuff is. And on Sunday, I'm gonna 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.600 be hosting my first ever meet and greet on Good 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:17.560 Vibrations boutique dot com. Oh that's the thing. So you're 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:22.760 gonna be live and selling live like QUDC. Well just 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.640 like how we did, like did the bikini thing. You know, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.839 it's a thing, but it's gonna be on Good Vibrations 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.719 Boutique and it'll also go to my YouTube channel of 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.800 live stream and I'm using stream yarticles, so I'm gonna 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.360 have people with wait in line if they want to 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.680 call like video in and just be like, hey, I 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.240 bought that so I could chat with them while I 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.000 sign it, so we'll see how it goes. We know 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:49.280 how technology is sometimes, so that's a good idea. I 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:54.080 you know, on Twitter, you have like all these different 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.559 things that you're promoting, and I'm just like, I don't 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.040 know what is what you know because they're so so 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.720 you have like five different links that you put up. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.719 You have this, you have this, you have this. Break 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.800 it down for me. So you just explained the website 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:14.240 that you're promoting. When you say your secret Society, okay, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.000 is that different than say it like the only fan. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:21.680 Are you still doing OnlyFans? Well, here's the thing. My 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.880 secret Society is my exclusive membership for those of you 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:29.960 out theres I don't know, just exclusive content, whether it's videos, photos, 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:34.159 you name it, it's there. I have only fans. But 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.039 the way I work my only fans is there some 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.200 people who they just generally want to just use OnlyFans, 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.160 So that's why I have it there for them. And 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.720 it's at the fifteen dollars tier that I have because 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.240 it starts at five dollars membership and then it goes 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.400 all the way up to one hundred. So that is 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.320 just the place where it's like that just that membership 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.480 because we just live in an age where people love 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.920 only fans. And then I got my Patreon. People, you know, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.280 that's where it's a little bit more you can do 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:05.000 from five dollars two hundred and the most content is 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.560 on my Patreon, just because I used to just solely 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.320 use it for my secret society and then my website 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.840 shall i Martinez dot net. Some people don't like to 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.320 be on these social media platforms. They like old school. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.920 They want an old school website. So the reason why 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.160 I have so many different options for people is because 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:27.200 literally my my audience is some of them just want OnlyFans, 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.120 some of them just want Patreons, some of them just 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.920 want my website. Now, if I was more over in life, 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.960 I can command everyone to just go on my secret 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:39.520 side over stop that, but it's over. I wouldn't I 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.520 would be able to boss my people that I'm just not, 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.360 so I kind of cater to where like everyone is 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.640 at because that's when I add all that money up. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.760 That's why I'm able to do what I do for 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:55.520 a living lot. It's a lot, but it's worth it 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.080 because I get to do what I want to do, yes, exactly, no, 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.640 and I'm not knocking it by any means. I'm just 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.240 like I see certain links and I'm just like, I 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.280 get confused because I'm like, Okay, what link is this? 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.720 And what is she doing on this page? And so 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.720 when I wanted it to have you on here, I 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.160 just wanted you to explain the different things because if 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.640 somebody hears this and they want to sign up, they're 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.200 signing up for the right product. Oh and then I 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:24.920 just started another side. I told you you need link tree. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.400 You ever hear a link tree? Oh? Yeah? Like if 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.080 you go to Shelley Secret Society dot com, it's very organized. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.920 I put it right there if you want to do 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:36.360 it this way or that way. But long story short 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.640 as I can make it, I'm a failed foot model 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.640 fetish model. I tried it. It didn't work out for me. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.280 I wish it did. But to be hon I don't 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.079 know if this is the way for all girls or 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:52.520 fellas that do it, but for me, it was more 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:57.520 like what the people that were paying wanted I wasn't 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.679 comfortable doing, and so when I was just putting out 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.480 what I wanted, it made me a few bucks. But 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.000 to add that of my roster of things to do, 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.880 it just wasn't enough. And then I asked. I did 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.280 a poll on Twitter, on my secret society Twitter, and 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.440 somebody said that they had been a member of my 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:20.480 foot Club, but they've always felt that I gave away 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.839 too much in my previews, and I said, so they're 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.320 being cheap asses. He said yes, So a member from 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.800 that community said that, so I stopped being a foot model. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.240 So do you not do full content on the other sites? 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.160 I mean, I do, but it's more like the foot 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.760 Club was just like giving them the souls every time, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.760 giving them the wrinkle, like all the things they love 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:47.760 I was giving to them. Yeah, but now it's more like, Okay, 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.000 I have some people. And then I did another poll 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.360 on like my audience. On my audience, my boobs and 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.959 booty people way outweigh people who are my fans that 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.640 are into my feet. So that also made sense too, 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:05.440 because I know there's girls out there that I've met 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.000 throughout the years, and maybe they've had no like kind 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.640 of mainstream exposure like you have or myself, so they 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.200 just started from the beginning. So they hustled and they're 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.160 on these forums and all this. I've got too much 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.800 to do to like try to grab the audience and like, 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:20.760 you know what, I mean to like sit there, because 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.360 I got all these other sites I'm working on. So 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:24.559 that's why I was just like, you know what, I 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.120 don't think it's for me. I think I should just 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.680 work that my audience likes to pay for my boobs 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.239 and my butt and that's it. I find it interesting 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:38.720 because like I dabbled in the foot fetish realm, I 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.600 didn't know much about it. You know, I always got 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.520 requests for my feet. Now I'm gonna go on record 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:49.120 and say, my feet are the drizzling shits. My feet 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.320 to me look like Fred Flintston when he started up 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:57.800 his car. They're big. I'm a nine. I have a big, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:03.800 big toe. They're not but yet people find them utterly 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:08.200 irresistible and I can't see why they're just My husband 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.960 even said what and I'm just like, dude, I don't 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.119 even know, Like you know some people, I don't judge anybody. 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.120 Like everybody's got their thing that they like and they're 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.079 fetish and it's all good. But my feet are not cute. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.160 I don't get it. But like you said, I wouldn't 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.200 even know, Like if I wanted to go full fledged 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.679 because out of all the fetishes out there, I feel 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:31.640 like the feet are the most innocent because I don't 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.360 think it's a dirty thing, like you know, it's it's 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.440 just they're just feet, you know. And even though I 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.640 look at them and I don't see feet as being beautiful, 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.760 other people do and that's fine. But I wouldn't even 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.400 know what forum to go look for to promote my 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.680 Like I know they're out there, I don't even know 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.640 how to find these things. And the foot thing, I 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.880 can never wrap my head around because like I would 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:59.040 take these pictures and then they would want me to 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.400 go to the next level, and I'm like, well, what 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.520 is that level? Like a foot to foot? I don't 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.760 under how do you keep evolving with feet? It's just 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.880 the foot, I don't I don't know. But then it 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.200 got to the point where I, you know, they they 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.640 wanted me to have somebody else rub my feet and 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.720 then put my feet in their mouth, and it's weird. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.320 I was like, I don't feel comfortable doing that kind 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.960 of stuff. So that's where I was just like I'm done, 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:33.000 you know, But I'm right there with you, like and too. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.319 It's so interesting because at first I was like, what 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.360 is it about feet? And I would ask my audience 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.280 and they wouldn't say they just don't want to talk 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.120 about it. They just wanted whatever. So I was like, okay, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.080 So I'm trying to figure it out. And what's interesting 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.560 is when I first started being like, Okay, I'm gonna 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.120 try this for a year, I'll do this like foot thing, 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.480 I actually started to see the beauty and I started 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.280 to enjoy it. Like at first I was like, oh God, 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.880 like whatever, but then all of a sudden, I was 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.400 like I love this, Like okay, I get it now, 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:08.240 I understand. So it sucked for me that didn't work 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:12.240 out that way, but it seems like the common ground 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.920 in my life is like whenever something doesn't work for me, 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.360 even if it seems like it should, I'm just not 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:18.840 meant to do that. I'm just meant to put my 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:23.120 energy somewhere else. So I abandoned the foot fetish world. 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.880 After dipping my toe in, there I go. There's the 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:30.760 pun I was looking for one, but you beat me 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:34.079 too with After dipping my toe in, I just realized 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.920 that foot fetish modeling was just a heel in my life. 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:44.520 So I'm sending it all together, she's on fire. Now, 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.600 I'm with you, I understand, but I turned that page 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.840 into I have another. You know, on like my Patreon 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.640 or my website, there's the different tiers. Well there's like 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.679 a twenty dollars one, So I just turned that one 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.200 into a twenty dollars one because sometimes people will be like, like, 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.679 you know, I just want to be that member and 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.440 I don't know, just giving options again once again. So 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.160 that's why I have so many links. I think it's 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.960 annoying myself. I'm the one posting on all of these 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.640 platforms and it takes me a long time, but it's 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.680 my job. And the way I used to be like 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.440 maybe I should just like consolidate to one, but I 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.480 was like, you know, I tried that, and what ended 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:25.120 up happening is Patreon was my main like I was 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.720 making great money, like I was. I was so proud 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.760 of what I built on Patreon, and then when I 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.400 try to consolidate, I haven't yet. And it's been like 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.960 almost two years. I haven't yet gained back that audience 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.320 that I once had on there, and it sucks and 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:48.440 I regret it so much. But but you're a hustler. 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.440 I've said it. I mean we I remember our conversation 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.400 on the phone one day and you were like, you 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.760 need to get on Patreon and I was like, no, 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.640 I'm not going to do it, and you talked me 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.360 into it, and you're like, you need to do you 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.080 know who you are. I'm like, yeah, I know who 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.640 I am the time. That's just has saled, you know. 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.600 But Patreon's been a lot of fun for me now. Granted, 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.440 our content is way different, like I it's just with 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:17.320 the web, not the website. It's just with our podcast, 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.720 you know, and we do funny games and quizzes and 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.960 drinking and stuff like that. But it's there's no pictures, 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.600 no videos. I went a completely different route with it. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.800 But you are hustling. So it's not that it's annoying 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.400 that you have all these things. It's just for a 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:41.200 casual fan who wants to join something, they might not 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:45.280 know which link to press and click, because like, what 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.240 do you get if you choose this one or this one? 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.960 I know, like I said, I try so hard on 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.320 my little landing plate page. Thank God for a link tree. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.680 I try to break it down as well as I can, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.000 But you know, I don't know we'll see what happens. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.040 Like I said, I'm like really scared to try to 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:10.200 like consolidate everything because when I did, I just I 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:14.880 still am not making the money I used to, and like, well, 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.200 you don't have to. You don't have to because once 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.120 they click that link, it should be self explanatory what 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.880 they're getting, you know what I mean, Like they're clicking. 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.160 So I'm just as you know, as I'm looking, I'm 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.400 just like, this girl's doing everything and I love it 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.080 because you're just boom boom boom. There's so much content 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:36.840 out there's Yeah, it's tiring, and that's what it's been 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.640 weighing on me actually, Like for the last couple of months, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.920 I'm like should I or shouldn't die? And then I 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.840 always go back to how I still didn't get I mean, 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.720 even if I got like most of that Patreon back, 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:50.960 I'd be like, Okay, yeah, at least I got most 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.280 of it back, so eventually, but it's like, man, it's 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.320 been a couple of years and I still haven't been 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:59.560 able to get those same people back, and it bums 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:04.720 me out because I'm in a much better place mind, body, 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:09.320 and soul now. So it's like I know, yeah, but 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.320 you're picking up new members. I see you when you're saying, 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.040 somebody rebuilds or we got a new member. So you're 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.120 doing great. I mean, don't sell yourself short. You're out there, 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.639 you're hustling. I keep saying to myself, she's not getting 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.000 enough rest, and I'm worried about her because there are 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.320 certain times where I know you're not going to bed early, 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.440 but you're up at like four thirty five o'clock your time. 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.440 That's when I wake up, I know, because she's always like, 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.880 you can text me early, and I'm just like, well, 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.680 we're three hours different, and she wakes up to freaking early, 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.960 and I'm just like, she's not getting enough rest. It's 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.480 the mother and me. I worry. You need to see 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.159 about nine o'clock, like I would have been pretty early, 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:54.560 like you know, ten o'clock talk, so you know, sneaking 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.800 a nap in there. It's yeah, see that's the difference. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.639 You get to nap. I don't get to nap. I 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.560 never take naps. But I got really excited because when 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:09.200 I saw that you were kind of not fully coming 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:14.280 back to wrestling, but kind of starting a virtual experience. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.720 I said, what is it going to take for me 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.200 to lure her back for a weekend, and I got 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.919 a little bit excited. Well that's because I'm putting it 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.399 together and it's at my home and I'm hoping people 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.919 check out the site. It's all a big commercial for 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.600 Good Vibrations boutique. No no, no, But I'm saying, like 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.280 when you worked for Chad and when you did the 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.480 right like the real virtuals, you know what I mean, 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.000 like the wrestling virtuals, and oh that's because it's Chad 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.560 and I love Chad. I know I knew, but you know, 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:51.159 I just here's the thing. I just maybe there was 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.680 a time or two in my life where when I 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.359 was like, oh I don't want to be involved in 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.639 wrestling or whatever, and I was bitter. I'm not gonna 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.439 say I wasn't, but I'm not bitter anymore. It just 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.720 is what it is. And I'm actually really grateful for 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:06.639 like even all the crap I went through, you know, 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.800 because now that I'm older and like life is played out, 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.720 it like everything totally makes sense, even at the time 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.160 when things didn't make sense, and like now it does. 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:20.639 So I just really feel that going to a situation 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.600 like a convention. I just don't think it's going to 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.960 serve me well. And I just think that time of 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:31.760 my life is over and I think it's draining. And 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.520 like when at the tail end, when I was doing it, 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.760 it was really just because like that's what I did 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:39.760 to make money. But then like I remember, I did 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:45.480 this one signing and it just like the different people 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.560 that I just kept letting things roll off my back 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.399 and had grievances with it just built up and I 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:54.600 got super super drunk. I told off multiple excuse me, 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:58.520 I confronted. I confronted multiple people, and I don't want 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.440 to be confronted by drunk Shelley. Shelley, but not a 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.880 drunk Shelley like I confronted. And you know what, I'm 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.199 glad I did because I actually got to look some 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:13.280 people and their pupil and tell them like what's up, 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.000 and then hear their side of what they think or whatever. 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.639 So it's fine. But just like being in that like 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.760 I went into it like yeah, because the people who 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:24.200 brought me in super nice, like they always want me 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.679 to have a good time. They bring me wine, like 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.160 there's just so awesome. So I was all about it. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.160 But then like I just kept like brushing things off, 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.560 brushing things off, and then before I knew it, there's 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:38.440 this one person that should name nameless. I was like drunk, 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.359 and I was like, please, just ask me, what's why 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.439 I don't like you anymore? Please? I was begging for 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.960 this person and they wouldn't because they were scared because 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.560 they knew. And they're like, oh, Shelly, you want another 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:49.399 shot with their handle shaky? And I was like this 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.840 little bit, ask me why I'm mad at you? Who 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:57.439 it is? I know who it is, but I can't remember, 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:01.040 so you need to tell me. You know. I guess 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:05.640 what I'm saying is is even though I had a release, 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.760 I just really saw what that environment kind of puts 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.960 me through. And I don't want a chance that anymore. 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.160 Like I don't want to be in that place anymore. 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.280 You don't want to get triggered? Yeah, you know, Like 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.719 I've done so much healing, especially now that I can 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.119 look at my wrestling career, especially on the crap I 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:26.679 went through or people who hurt me, like I can, 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:28.560 I have so much peace with it now. I'm so 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.200 grateful to finally finally have that. Like I would hate 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:36.800 to like get triggered and then like have to deal 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:38.879 with because I just want that to It's fine. I 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:42.480 have new things going on in my life. There's future 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.600 things to disappoint me, to make me have new trauma. 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.159 I don't even get old anymore, so it's nothing against 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:51.520 like I don't want to do rest. It's like, dude, 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.280 that was a really bad night. And then the next 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.400 day I didn't remember what happened like at the end 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.720 of the night, and I don't like that. And then 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:01.800 like I I heard rumors about things that I did, 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.640 and like half people I did it, half people said 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.679 I didn't, So I don't know. My ring light wasn't on. 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.600 I was like, I look really dark. Sorry about that. No, 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:15.720 it's me being selfish wanting a weekend with my friends, 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.080 and I said, we discussed this before. I'm just like, oh, 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.639 I just want to hang out like with my friends. 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:23.520 I want to all to be booked. I want us 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:25.440 all to make money, and I want to sell the 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:29.080 hang out because in wrestling, your friends don't live down 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.479 the street from you. They live in different states and 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:34.840 you never get to see them unless you're working together. 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:37.639 So you know, as much as I would love to 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:41.120 plan a girl's weekend where I can fly to some 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:46.240 you know on Charted Island and hang out. I have kids, 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:49.480 I have responsibility, and I can't if it's not a payday, 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.639 I just can't get up and go far, you know 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:54.359 what I mean. So it's just a way for me 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:58.720 to see you or other people, which is nice. You know, 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:04.520 it's a paid way, absolutely, I get it. You WrestleMania 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:07.119 is supposed to be here, and like, how what twenty 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:11.600 three next year? I guess is it for that? Uh 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:16.840 wressel Kan? Yeah? Yeah, because this year it's in Dallas. 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.000 So if I well, I don't know if you've heard, 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.560 but this might be my last year because you know 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.399 it's it's the fifty and Fabulous Tour because I'll be 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:30.159 fifty next month. Whoa, and you know I might be 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.440 hanging it up. So I'm not sure. But if I 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.159 but if I pulitary funk and I come back, I 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:38.199 will try to get to La. Just do that one, like, 0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.640 just just do that one. Oh okayause it brings you here. 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:43.919 You'll make the money. You'll make good money because they 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.159 know that's the only time I'm only going so I 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.639 can go to California. Then you go and everyone's like, 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.520 oh my god, this is the last time to see Francine. Yeah, 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:53.879 I have to promote it that way. Well, well we 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:58.480 have some time to do that. But uh yeah, I 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:02.199 that's just me being self wanting to see you. So 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:04.680 I don't know. I just keep it in the back 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:06.359 of your head. 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New year, no 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:28.959 pubes in twenty twenty two with manscaped. It just doesn't 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:32.639 seem Maybe it's just me there, maybe it's no one else, 0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:36.080 and I'm go's you. Maybe I'm doing the signing at 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.760 a store and I said, oh, would you like would 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:42.399 you like a vampire? Because I know one you go 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.080 and I would do it. Well, wait, we need to 0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.880 get that done because maybe maybe we can promote two 0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:54.000 thousand and six fake ec dub television, Me and you, 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.239 any promoters out there when a Bookshelly and I. There 0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.960 there's a market for it, for sure, that's for it. 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:03.359 I'm telling you. But it was a great year, and 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.680 and it was it was such I think back on that, 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.360 and there's fans who always put like you and I 0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:13.119 the graphics up from our little feud, the tiny little feud, 0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:16.840 that it could have been so much more right. I 0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:21.040 remember you and I. They gave us a minute and 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.840 a half maybe two at the most, right, And I 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.440 remember you and I going over it right in front 0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:32.119 of Gorilla, and I remember Jr. Walking by and looking 0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.800 at us and good luck ladies, you know, and we 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.840 just looked at each other like this is the shits, 0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.199 you know, like we knew how bad it was. They 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:48.240 didn't let us do anything, and here was that here. Yeah, 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.199 I mean it could have. We could have did so 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:55.399 much more and they just I don't know, it just 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.040 could it could have been bigger than it was. So 0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:03.760 what's interesting is like, Okay, when we were living it, right, yeah, 0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:05.560 it was kind of like all you and I can 0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.720 do is just crack jokes and you know, make fun 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.800 of ourselves for being so unover with them. But like 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.280 it's so cool now. Is something I didn't realize when 0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.520 I was living in it was how awesome we really were. 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.840 Like I always knew that, like our feud would have 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.639 been great. But when I see the footage and I'm like, 0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.520 oh my god, Like I was so busy living that 0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.800 moment now that I can kind of like detached from wrestling, 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:33.399 I guess you'd say personally, I watch it and I'm like, dude, 0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:39.080 this was like amazing, like I and it's a newer 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.040 realization that I've had. I know that might sound weird 0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.240 to like the fans out there, but like to me, 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.560 it was always like when I perform, Okay, I go 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.560 and perform and I'm done. I'm not the type no 0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:53.120 offense that goes and watches myself back over to like whatever. 0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.160 I've never been that type and I'm not knocking it. 0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.160 There's a lot of people that can learn. I probably 0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.800 could have too my mistakes that were consistent or whatever, 0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:03.400 but I was kind of like, I did that, moving forward, 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.920 what's the next match? What are we doing next? So 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.320 I was so in that mode when all that stuff 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.440 was going on, especially when you're on the road, because 0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.760 it's like boom boom boom, boom, boom boom. Now that 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:19.120 I can like appreciate it, it's like, holy cow, like 0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:21.280 we did a good job and when they gave us 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.520 that tiny amount of time, like we really killed it. 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.160 And there's some performers out there that are in wrestling 0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.280 that they couldn't pull that off, and I'm really proud 0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.360 that we were able to at least pull off with 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:36.520 a little bit that we did. Do you remember standing 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:41.160 in the back with Undertaker and giving him the spot 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.960 that we wanted to do with the table and asking 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:49.480 him for advice. Do you remember that undertakers walking by? 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:51.480 Shelley and I are in the back and we're like, 0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:55.800 wouldn't it be great if we, uh we climb? We 0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:58.440 were like fight. We think I think we were supposed 0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:00.640 to have each other by the hair because you and 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.600 I came up with this spot in the back and 0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.280 we're like, oh, there's Undertaker. Let's let's pitch it to 0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.360 him and see what he says, like like he gave 0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:11.360 a ship. But he was very nice, very nice. Uh 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.440 We Seane and I had each other by the hair 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.840 and we go into the corner and we climb the 0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:19.840 ropes right and there's a table and both of us 0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:24.680 wanted to crash through the table together and we pitched yes, 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.560 and we pitched it the Undertaker and he was like, oh, 0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:31.000 I think that sounds great. I think you should tell somebody. 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:35.280 We're like, oh, well, we're telling you. And I don't 0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.120 know if we thought that he was gonna just help us, 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.200 but he didn't. He just was like great, ladies, and 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.760 he walked away. And then I think we might have 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:47.480 told uh, I don't know, did we tell one of 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.280 our agents or Johnny A's and they were like, you're 0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:54.280 not doing that. And we were like, pitch these things 0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.680 and nobody wants to hear it, nobody cares, nobody listens, 0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:01.640 and that was it. But Undertaker had a big smile, 0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.680 so we thought we really died. I remember that, right. 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.280 I was like, did I dream that or did we 0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:11.680 really pitch this to uh mister uh mister Undertaker? And 0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:13.840 he just was like yeah, and then he walked away. 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.160 But how cool would that spot have been if we 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.640 were able to do that on our TV. They didn't 0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:27.680 want us to. They didn't care to appease whatever money 0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.360 making market we had, Like they didn't really care. And 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.080 it's domb because if they cared just a teensy bit, 0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.920 we could have actually made them more money. You know. Oh, 0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.520 it blows my mind. I remember Mickey James coming over 0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.280 to me and catering, right, and she was just like, oh, 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.240 I heard that you and Shelley are doing something on 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.840 TV this week. Finally, because you know, I was there 0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.000 forever and they never used me, and I would just 0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.200 sit there and catering and eat the food and collect 0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.040 my check and uh, and she was like, oh, I 0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.960 can't wait to see what you guys do. And I said, well, 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:00.920 it's it's not a lot. They only gave us like 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.400 two minutes. And I was sitting with her when she 0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:09.960 watched it, and her face was literally like this, and 0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.080 I was like, okay, you could say it's the shits, 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:15.360 It's okay, like you know, and she was so unimpressed, 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:19.120 but she knows as a worker it wasn't us. But 0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:23.240 she was like her expectations were like were like it 0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.080 just went down, and she just had this look of 0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.320 disgust on her face and I just looked at her like, 0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:33.120 this is my life, not yours. You know. It's interesting 0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:37.160 because I feel most wrestlers in my career, when they 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:41.200 see me in the ring make that face now when 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:49.680 your badge is involved. It's so funny because now people 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:53.760 life trained with people that I worked with on the indies, 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.560 or people that been in shows of me and the indies, 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.720 they see me go, so I don't need to explain 0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.760 myself whatever. So cause people want to say I suck, 0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.680 I get it because when I was both Ariel and Selenas, 0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.640 they didn't give me an opportunity to showcase any resting really, 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.520 So I don't blame people for that, but it's so 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:16.160 crazy because people who have trained with me and then 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.400 like like for example, in wwe like some of us 0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.360 train together and then we get on TV eventually together, 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:27.560 they kind of like would have this like jobbing me 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.560 out kind of vibe like like I'm not that good 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.440 and all this because I wasn't really doing anything. And 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:37.200 it's like when a situation like that where we didn't 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.840 have much we could even do, like we had that crowd, 0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:42.680 that crowd, we had them from the moment we came 0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.360 out to the moment we went back in, and that's 0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.600 what you do. It doesn't matter if you're doing a 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:51.360 bunch of moves, it doesn't matter. What matters is connecting 0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.920 with the audience to make them feel like it's real. 0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.960 And we made everyone in that arena feel like that 0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.160 was real, and we were really pissed at each other. 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.200 We're really going at it. And so it's just funny 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.960 to me that people want to be like, oh, show 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:09.879 these shit and it's like, okay, you're that. Mickey said 0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.839 that just no, no, no, it was just disappointment in 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.000 her face, like her face just went from a smile 0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:18.640 to just discuss and I could see her as clear 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:20.400 as they and I'm just like, I hope she doesn't 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.279 think it's my fault because you're only as good as 0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:28.040 they want you to be. It's it's it's a proven fact. 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:31.719 You can have all the talent in the world, but 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.319 they can make you look like shit. Because I tell 0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.239 these I tell it to the fans all the time. 0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:38.879 You have to do what they tell you to do. 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.800 I can't just walk out there and do fifty moves 0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.919 because I know how and get myself up. No, no, 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:48.520 you have to listen to what the script calls for. 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:53.040 And people can't understand that, and they blame the talent, 0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.640 but they should be blaming the writers, the producers, the 0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.240 people who are in charge. It's not the talent's fault. 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:03.200 And people don't seem to realize that. So you're not 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:09.799 the shits. Well, don't let them make you think that 0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.560 you are, because well, that's that's what I'm saying, is 0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:17.440 like these people my whole wrestling career, there's a group 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.680 of people like in the business with us, you know, 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:23.279 among us that they have this opinion of me like that, 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.040 and I've never been one to be like try to 0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.000 prove them wrong, because then like when I'm in training 0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:31.200 with those same people, especially after they got a name 0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:34.280 for themselves, they're outside of the room, not doing drills 0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.920 with everybody because they think they're too over, Whereas me, 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.520 I did it because I had a show to do 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.120 that weekend. I want to make sure my footwork's good. 0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:44.919 That's why I train. I train so that I don't 0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.480 mess up in my matches and I'm crisp and I 0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.640 can be more present in my characters instead of being like, oh, okay, 0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:55.960 and then what. So it's funny to me that these 0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:57.800 people want to have this opinion and that's why I 0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:02.600 say that have trained with me so they know and like, 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.359 because I don't go and try to prove myself, they 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.080 like continue to like what. And it's so funny because 0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:11.800 it's like, I don't need to prove myself to anybody. 0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.279 First of all, I'm saving my body, so like whatever, Like, no, 0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:18.160 I've already done stupid stuff already with my body. I 0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.960 don't need it for you to be like, oh, Shelley 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:23.840 is good. I remember I had a match and it 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.440 was a really awesome match and it was with a 0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.960 girl who in real life I had a very ugly 0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.880 falling out with, and later I found out that they 0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:33.920 booked that match because they thought I was gonna beat 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.279 her up. So I was like, are you kidding me? 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.919 So it's already set up right well, her and I, 0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:43.640 she called me, owned up to everything, apologized, and we 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.640 talked things out so we can have a good match 0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.319 and be civil Because prior to her screwing me over, 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:50.480 I always thought I'd have an amazing match with her, 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.000 so I always wanted to rescue her. So I thought 0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:56.040 it was really cool that I got that moment. And 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.440 then we had this awesome match. And one of the 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.240 people that booked me when I came to the back, 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.480 instead of him being like damn, that was awesome, like 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.960 the crowd was like all about it, he was like mad. 0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:11.360 He goes, oh, I could tell you've been training. I'm like, yeah, 0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:16.120 you're good. That was really good. And I never heard 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.560 from that person ever again. It's so bizarre. It goes 0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:23.640 back to like I remember the first night that uh, 0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.120 I don't know where we were, but the first night 0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.200 that they put me with balls and we did the uh, 0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.720 the thing with with you and Kevin and we got 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.800 all four of us were so over and Johnny Ace 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.080 was so happy in the back. Do you remember that 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:43.520 liked the arena? They were so loud. They were so 0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:46.600 loud throughout the whole thing. And it was the night 0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:50.480 that I'm gonna tell this story. It was the night 0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:55.280 that I was driving with Al Snow and I had 0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:01.279 parfaits for Do you remember this? I got two parfays 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:08.239 from McDonald Gotta remember the story. Two parfays from McDonald's. 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:09.759 We did a drive through and I didn't want a 0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.640 burger and I didn't want chicken. I said, I'll be healthy. 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.880 I'll have two parfaes with a fruit parfe with like 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.399 yogurt and granola and all this shit, right, And it 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.360 was you and me and the boys out there, and 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.400 I had I don't know if I was practicing the 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:28.160 Luthez jump before TV or I did something. We did 0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:32.120 something together. But I was having bathroom problems because of 0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.879 all the granola and the yogurt. Do you remember this? 0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.240 And I'm like, Shelley, if I run away, you'll know why. 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.480 It was a house show. It wasn't TV. And I 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.520 kept running to the back. We were in garrilla. I'm like, 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.359 I'll be right back, ran to the bathroom, but we 0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.160 went out there. I finally I calmed my stomach down 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.160 and we went out there. The place was so freaking loud, 0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:57.279 and I remember coming to the back and thinking, this 0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.440 is gonna be great because we won't have to do 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:03.040 the bikini bullshit anymore. We're gonna get to work. We're 0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.680 gonna get to work together, which we were comfortable with 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:07.959 each other, and I thought there was gonna be this big, 0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.959 long program and Johnny pulled me to the side, told 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:13.040 me how over we all were, this, that and the other, 0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:15.920 and then they completely share on us. And I don't 0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:19.040 understand why companies do this. I don't get it now. 0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:24.319 I know Balls took drugs and ruined, ruined me and him, 0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:26.480 but I mean they could put me with someone else 0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.560 and they chose not to, So I mean it makes 0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:34.839 it made me think, am I that horrible a performer? Like? 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.279 Did they not see something in me? That pause all 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.719 in me? Like it's it's just it's a mind. It 0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:43.759 screws with your mind, it really doesn't. It makes you 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:48.000 think that you're worthless, and that company is They're they're 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.480 known for it, and it's a shame. The thing is is, like, 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:58.800 first of all, I was so distracted behind the scenes, 0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:01.000 like when people were like, oh, like how I was 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.200 always tell people I was too busy. Unfortunately, this makes 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.799 me my vomit chasing unavailable guys that I wanted to 0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.799 be my boyfriend. So but the thing is is I'm 0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.040 kind of glad that I'm a Stage five clinger like 0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:18.439 that because Stage five, like I think me being distracted 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:20.840 with chasing these guys I wanted to be my boyfriend. 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.120 It kept me away from like the politics. I had 0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:29.280 no idea until like like towards the end. And then 0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.719 years after I left of like how like all these 0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.760 weird things that were going on behind the phone. Oh dude, 0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.319 I never politics. And I got in trouble for not 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:42.719 politics and which which blows my mind. And then I 0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:46.839 was told rub oil on your chest and go knock 0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.280 on Vince McMahon's door and lean over with your boobs 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.080 hanging out. One of the agents told me to do that. 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.000 Do you believe that? Ball, I go, I'm not doing that, 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.480 And I didn't do it, and probably that's that's probably 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:02.719 why I got released. Probably that's what that's what went 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:06.120 on there. And that's the thing is like I was 0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:12.000 so in my own world that I only knew these things, 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.880 like I said towards the end, because I'll never have 0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.960 name names so people don't come for me. But people 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:22.080 have confided in me the things that they've done, and 0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.719 they didn't feel good about it. And I don't know 0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:26.520 if it was because I was kind of like after 0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:28.840 you left, I kind of just kind of stayed to myself. 0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.080 You know. I was friendly like to everybody, but like 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.839 stayed to myself. So I think that some people kind 0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:37.080 of noticed I didn't get involved in drama and stuff, 0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:38.959 so they confided in me, and I was like, wait, 0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:42.759 what what this is going on? So my whole thing 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:46.640 is I'm dying to know what was said about me 0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:50.239 behind the scenes, like when you're like sitting at the 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:51.920 table or on the phone call and they're like we're 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.640 going to fire that area, like what was said? Like 0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.680 I think it's so like I want to know, not 0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:00.160 because it's like them, I think I would be. I 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.040 think it's funny, like does Vince McMahon think I'm a 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:07.480 dumb bitch? Like like I want hair? And then as 0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:10.399 time goes on, it's funny because then I'll find out. 0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.080 I'll talk to somebody and they'll be like, well, you know, 0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.200 this is what happened, and I'm like, oh, now it 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.919 makes sense. And it's so funny because there's people I've 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.600 confronted like hey, I know you have an issue with me. 0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.239 No no, no, no, And then life will go on 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.400 and then people will fill in the blanks and I'm like, 0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:29.680 oh my god, I think it's hilarious. So hey, anyone 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.840 watching out there, you want to anonymously write me to 0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:36.359 tell me what was said. Please. There was some guy 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:41.040 I can't remember who it bothers me I worked on 0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:43.439 the indie show, and he said that he was there 0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:46.560 the day that me and Batista got into it, and 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.440 like he filled in some blanks. And this wasn't until 0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.880 like in the last like five years, two years or 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:53.680 so that I found this out. So when he filled 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.880 in some like blanks, I was like, oh my gosh, 0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:58.920 because to me, it was just like, Okay, this happened, 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.279 and then this happened in this and then like I 0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.640 performed and then I came back and then whatever, and 0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.960 I got fired. So to hear like what happened in 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.759 the guy's locker room and what was being said. I 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:15.359 was like, ah, yeah, like being a fly on the wall, right, funny. 0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:19.840 It's just unfortunate there there. I always say, there was 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.400 so much talent that has been misused that has walked 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:26.920 through that door, and it's just it's not the talent 0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.120 at all, you know. And I ask you guys a question. Yeah, 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.279 I'm sorry interrupt. Do you think it's still like that 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.640 today or do you think it's evolved at all? Nope, 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.439 I think it's exactly the same same thing. I kind 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:42.040 of also think it's who you know, and and I 0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:46.280 still stand by you know, homegrown talent gets a better 0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:49.200 shot than somebody you know, I can. And I hate 0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.680 using this term superstar because I don't think of myself 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.560 as a superstar at all, but being a superstar in 0:43:56.719 --> 0:44:00.600 air quotes in another company and then going there, and 0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.960 I tried to be as humble as I possibly. I mean, 0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:07.560 I was in catering, getting the girl's stuff from catering 0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:09.759 that were in the business for five years, and at 0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.320 that point I was in the business for thirteen years. 0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.880 I had more seniority than any other girl in that 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.280 locker room. And I'm like, oh, would you like a cookie? 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.560 I'm gonna go to catering. Would you like a bottle 0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.680 of wa? Just trying to fit in because I don't 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.640 know these people, and I'm trying to make friends, especially 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.120 because you know you had the wrong and SmackDown rosters 0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.839 with us at the time, you know, And so I'm 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:32.960 just trying to be friends with all these girls. And 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.480 I think I came in with zero ego and I 0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.359 was still treated like like one guy told me, oh, 0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.919 you should try and join the Diva Search. I said, 0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:46.920 the Diva sarch Are you kidding me right now? Like what, well, 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.160 you know they like the Diva Search. Girl, I'm like, 0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.000 I'm so First of all, I'm thirty four years old. 0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:54.600 I'm not going to join the friggin Diva Search. Like. 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.480 It just pissed me. I was pissed. I was. I 0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.480 wasn't bitter, but I was just mad that I was 0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.080 stuck in a bikini, which I didn't do in my twenties. 0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:05.560 Now I'm in my mid thirties and they have us 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:10.480 running around in bikinis, rolling all over the matt like idiots, 0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.040 you know what I mean. It was the same thing 0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:15.279 every single weekend, and I just I hated going. I 0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:18.640 hate it. The only reason why I liked it was 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.000 to see like you and to hang out with the girls, 0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.520 because we were starting to get like a little chummy 0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:28.080 except for one that we show, you know, we were 0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.200 starting to hang out and have a good time and 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:34.320 and it just it's just a they screwed your mind 0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.920 and it made me sick to come to work sometimes 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.319 when I got that phone call and was like, oh, 0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:42.600 you're not need it this weekend, Like Howard would be 0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.439 scared to call me and he's like for eight scene. 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.440 I'm like, please tell me I'm staying home this weekend 0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:50.640 and he's like, are you okay with that? I'm like, absolutely, 0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:55.080 just send me my check on Monday, because it was dreaming. 0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.319 It was draining getting on that airplane and doing four 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:02.760 days and not being not being appreciated and not being used, 0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:06.359 you know, Like I remember Ted Dbassi walking in, Well 0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.279 you're not working tonight, but I'm sure you don't care. 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:11.960 And I'm just like, ew, like, what kind of attitude 0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:13.960 is not to get How do you know you don't 0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:16.719 even know me? I would just stand that guy. By 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:18.719 the way, I just didn't throw that out there, But anyway, 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.359 he wasn't very nice. I mean, I hate to say 0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.840 he wasn't nice to me. And I never did anything 0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:25.799 to him, but the stuff he would say to me, 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.640 And I'm just like, really, sir, how do you know? 0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:32.439 I don't care, you know, as an asshole. I don't 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:37.600 care he's an asshole. I don't like him. I'm just like, okay, 0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:41.920 you know, just not not being given a fair shot today. 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.279 I feel like, and even back then, I feel like 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:47.200 it's who you know. If you're chummy, if you have 0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:51.240 an inn, if you have a previous relationship with someone, 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:53.840 if you're a spouse. I think it's a lot easier 0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:57.200 to get a spot than if you are a name 0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:01.680 from somewhere else and you're established. And you know, I 0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.200 was lucky because they didn't change my name because it's 0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.520 my birth name, so I got to use my name 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.719 that I was known for. But they could have gave 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:10.640 me a shit. I could have been Gertrude for all 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:14.759 I know and walked out. I mean, who cares. I 0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:16.799 just all I wanted to do was work, and they 0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:19.160 didn't let me. And I just feel like you and 0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.960 I could have had something really magical together and they 0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:23.480 just didn't let us do it. So it was just 0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:27.680 a missed opportunity. We'll never know. I think that's like 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.880 when people like throughout the years have asked me, you know, 0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:35.439 a different interview or just conversations. What it boils down 0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:40.800 to for me is once I started to see how 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.480 some people were getting ahead and it was on more 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.359 on the shady side or whatever. To me, the way 0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:50.000 I looked at it was that's not my business. These 0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:52.840 are grown adults making their own choices. If that's what 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:56.240 you choose to do, that's your deal. I'll look this way. 0:47:56.880 --> 0:48:01.680 And what annoyed me was I wasn't being someone that's 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.040 trying to ruffle feathers. I wasn't somebody that was trying 0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.320 to start problems or trying to be a do gooder. 0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:09.520 I just kind of kept to myself, did my thing, 0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:12.520 and when I saw these things going down, I didn't 0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:14.640 even judge these people. It was just like, okay, that's 0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:16.920 how it is, all right, Or maybe somebody kind of 0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.160 rubbed me wrong and I found out like they're not 0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.120 maybe the best person. I would be like, okay, now 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.600 that makes sense, cool whatever, Like I can move on 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.439 from that. So I felt like it was almost like 0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:32.160 I got punished for not rolling going with the flow. Yeah, 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:34.440 and he's like, at least I didn't make any troubles, 0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:37.960 like you you respectful, You just And the thing is 0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.200 is like when you say, oh, you ask these girls 0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.680 what they want, it's called just being a nice person. 0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:45.960 It's called being a thoughtful person, like who cares, like 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:48.280 you know, And so it's like I kind of feel 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:51.719 I'm right there with you. Was like I could have 0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:55.000 made I could have been difficult, like these other girls 0:48:55.360 --> 0:49:02.040 are very difficult and drama. But but like I'm getting 0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:05.640 the job done. And the thing is, I made a 0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:08.239 tweet not too long ago, and I said something to 0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:11.720 the effect about how wwe never gave me any direction 0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:13.440 with my character. I just did it, and they saw 0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:14.840 I was doing a good job and let me go 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.600 with it. And then I said, and it's something to 0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:22.040 the effect to wrestlers that remember, like you create, you know, 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:24.560 bring life to your characters, not a company you And 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:26.960 my whole point was when people get down in the 0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:31.520 dumps about getting fired, I feel like I've already gone 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:35.440 through that process. So like I'm like many years like 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.319 of going through all the feelings and emotions, and I 0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:41.719 didn't really see, especially because the Internet wasn't what it 0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:44.719 was is today. When I fed, there was no one 0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:47.480 out there talking that I could relate to because it 0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:50.600 was either people were totally trashing like WWE, or they're 0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:53.880 praising them. So it's like I didn't feel like anyone 0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:55.799 was like, man, this really sucks, Like I used to 0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:59.680 like disappointments whatever. So I try to like do that 0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.120 for the generation now. That's like my little do good 0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:05.160 or deed for wrestling paying forward is I wish I 0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:07.360 could have come across some video or a pose that 0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.040 someone that gets it. And it's so crazy because a 0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:12.839 lot of people were like, oh, well, not everyone gets 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.440 that creative, and like that's not the point. The point 0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:20.200 is is that whether it's you and your creation before 0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.120 wwan was an ECW or how I came into my 0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.680 own as Aeriel and learned how to be in front 0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:28.960 of the audience like that, it's like we created these 0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:31.759 characters and brought them to life, and it sucks that 0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:34.959 there's a lot of versions of us that like didn't 0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:38.320 get that chance for whatever reason. But I think people 0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:41.040 need to remind themselves out there, especially the wrestlers of today. 0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:44.920 It's like you're still you, you you could still you're still 0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:48.440 that character. Like they just don't pay you anymore and 0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.880 that sucks you're not making that money. But like it 0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.440 makes me sad to see people literally like put all 0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:59.400 their self worth and if they're with specifically WWE or not, 0:50:59.880 --> 0:51:04.640 and it's like, oh guy, I know, and it's not 0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:08.440 my business, but it just breaks my heart because we're 0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:10.160 all going to get old and one day you can't 0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:17.440 do wrestling anymore, you know, you know, see like they 0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:19.440 can't do wrestling anymore, and they're gonna sit there and 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:23.040 be like, because WWE never hired me, I'm a failure 0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:25.719 and it's like so not true. It's yeah, And I 0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:29.600 always say when I got well, I said it after 0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:32.279 because it's like you said, the Internet wasn't what it 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:34.880 was when we were there. But I always say, like, 0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:37.040 it's not the end of the world when you get 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:40.040 released by WWE, or if you never get to work 0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:43.479 for WWE. You become a wrestler because you're a fan. 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:46.480 I always say, we're all marks, right, We're all marks. 0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:48.279 That's why we got into the business because we love 0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:51.200 the sport, we love the business, we love performing, and 0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:56.319 just because somebody did not see the potential that you 0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:59.800 have does not mean that you're not a good performer. 0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:03.640 I thrived inn E CW. I was the drizzling shits 0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:07.759 in WWE. It's not my fault. I did exactly what 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.480 I was told to do, and I was held down 0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:15.279 by the man spot to speak. You know. I went 0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:18.120 in Johnny Ace's office and cried my eyes out and 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.960 pitched and pitched and pitched. You can only pitch for 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.359 so long, you know. And like you said, I had 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:26.120 my integrity. I wasn't going to rub oil on my 0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:29.960 boobs and lower myself and go in there and you know, 0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:34.000 try to be like a sex object behind closed doors 0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:36.120 when it's not on camera. I had a hard enough 0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:39.239 time being sexy on camera, let alone trying to do 0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:41.120 it in real life to a man that I don't 0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:43.880 even know, that's you know, forty years older than me, 0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:47.920 married or whatever he is married, And that's not my gig. 0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:51.799 That wasn't I don't politic, I never had to, so 0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:54.720 for them to be mad at me for not politicking, 0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:57.520 I got in trouble for staying in the locker room 0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:02.319 too long. Yeah, you disappear, you stay in the locker room. 0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.399 You're reading a book, I said, while I'm staying out 0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:08.359 of people's way. Well, that's like watching paint dry, That's 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:09.680 what I was told. I said, Well, what would you 0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:12.240 like me to do? What am I supposed to do? 0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.160 Do you want me to cause a problem? Start? Do 0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:17.080 you want me to mix it up with these you know, 0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:20.239 form a gang? Like do you what do you want 0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:22.319 me to do? Here? I had no idea what they 0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:24.440 wanted me to do behind the scenes, because I never 0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:27.000 had to do it before. You know, it was just like, oh, 0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:30.879 you can work, okay, here, try this, get yourself over. 0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:33.800 I did it worked. I worked for seven years before 0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:35.759 we went bankrupt. You know. Then I go to this 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:37.840 other company, I try and work and they don't let me, 0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:40.960 and it's like I'm done, you know. And it does 0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:43.560 leave a bitter taste in your mouth. But I knew 0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:47.120 it wasn't me, you know. Just because he didn't see 0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:50.800 something in me doesn't mean I'm worthless. And and these 0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:54.840 other performers need to realize that's not the holy grail. 0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:58.320 You know. For some people it is their lifelong dream, 0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:01.399 but especially nowadays, they're so many other companies to work 0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:04.160 for and to thrive and if you never get on 0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:07.520 TV and you're doing indies and you're loving life, then 0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:13.319 that's all that matters. That's all that matters. Like and 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:16.520 that's the thing. Like the people who I feel are 0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:19.480 the most cutthroat that I've met, and through wrestling, I 0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:21.239 realize those aren't the kind of people I like to 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:25.520 keep company with anything because they're taking it to I feel. 0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:30.200 I connect with people in the business that, Okay, maybe 0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.759 they can get distracted with WWE here and there, but 0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:35.920 they do it because they love this business. They do 0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:37.719 it because they want to be in that ring, and 0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:40.360 they love the feeling it is to connect with that 0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:43.960 audience and to tell that damn story, and it's just 0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:48.080 it's an amazing feeling, you know, It's an amazing, undescribable feeling, 0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:52.319 especially when you got that audience right. So to me, 0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:55.000 these people who are like the butt heads I call them, 0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:58.880 they're like so driven by ego that they've like lost 0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:02.160 sight of and then that's where you see them get 0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:04.920 so down in the dumps when they get fired, and 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:06.719 it's like, first of all, you know you're gonna try 0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:09.480 to go back, and you probably will, so like why 0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.480 are you crying about it and like s it's a 0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:15.759 bad example, and I feel like it makes people of 0:55:15.800 --> 0:55:19.120 the younger generations feel like, oh see, I have to 0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:21.120 because of Da Da And it's like, man, there's so 0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:24.160 many amazing companies. That's what I discovered my second time 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:26.279 going back to the indies because I grew up in 0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:29.439 California and at that time, there wasn't much wrestling going 0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:31.680 on over here, like there was just a very It 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:33.640 was hard. It was like, I mean, I had to 0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:37.120 get cast in an independent film about wrestling to find 0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.000 out how to be a wrestler, Like it just wasn't 0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.400 common knowledge like how it is in other parts of 0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:46.759 the country. So nowadays, more than ever, it's like, you 0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:50.920 know these amazing companies, Like I remember there's this company. 0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:53.560 Now I don't like the guy that runs it, I'll 0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:57.279 say that, But beyond wrestling, I remember when I went there, 0:55:57.400 --> 0:56:00.879 I was like, Wow, this is amazing being chills right now. 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:02.920 I didn't really do much there. I was like a valet, 0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:04.799 but I felt it and I was like, this is 0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:07.520 why I love wrestling, and I needed that. And then 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:09.440 there's a company, Hodslam that I worked with for a 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.680 while and it's like they made me like I felt 0:56:12.680 --> 0:56:16.080 like Beyond was kind of like the East Coast version 0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:18.719 of Hudslam a little bit, and I just got to 0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:21.560 be around these performers that just wanted to connect. So 0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:24.919 it's like, it makes me sad when people just think 0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:30.960 like they're all their worth is just like gone because 0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:33.440 they're not there. Or when I was in TNA, there'd 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:36.160 be people that were killing it in TNA with their character, 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:39.560 like killing it, but they still behind the scenes when 0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.600 I talked to them, they wanted that WWE it wasn't 0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:45.200 good enough, and it's like, look what you have right now. 0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:48.200 This is awesome, Like you have this. You might not 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:50.879 have that there, you might not be able to do 0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:56.520 this there. But it's like my opinion, it's like this 0:56:56.640 --> 0:57:00.239 brainwash of you're not worth anything unless you're here, and 0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:03.040 I write that right, and that's why I try to 0:57:03.120 --> 0:57:05.319 just tell them that, don't let them make you feel 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:09.040 that way, you know, Because Yeah, I was sad when 0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:11.839 when I got released, because I think I was more 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.080 sad because I didn't know what my next step was 0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:17.000 going to be at that point, not so much I'm 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:19.920 gone from the company, because I really wasn't happy there. Anyway. 0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:22.680 But I've said it time and time again. If I 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:25.560 did not take that job, there, you and I wouldn't 0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:27.480 be as close as we are now. So that's the 0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:30.120 one good thing that I got out of it. So 0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:36.240 happy about that. But tell everyone where they can find 0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:40.080 you and how they can join your eighty seven projects 0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:46.480 that you're doing. Eighty eight Now there you go, coming up. Yes, 0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:50.720 so if you just go to Shelley'slinks dot com, everything 0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:53.480 is listed there. But if you are interested in joining 0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:56.960 my exclusive fan club, then you can go to Shelley 0:57:56.960 --> 0:57:58.840 Secret Society dot com and then it's all laid out 0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.320 there a little bit better. You have to keep clicking 0:58:01.440 --> 0:58:04.360 through Shelley's Links, but yeah, everything's there. And go to 0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:07.800 Good Vibrations boutique dot com. There's gonna be you can 0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:11.440 get the vampire girl or guy shirt. Got lots of 0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:16.160 other awesome things on their cool products coming soon. And 0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:20.320 oh and follow me on Instagram. My Instagram's coming back 0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:24.360 slowly but surely. Uh. Long story short, Instagram deleted me 0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:28.760 without any questions asked, and I have like thirty four 0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:31.760 thousand followers. And for someone that hadn't been on TV 0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:35.760 for so long, I was proud that, like I put 0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:41.080 my time in and so it's like with like when 0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:43.080 I work with other companies and things like that. It 0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:45.320 just helps me people with my little side gigs. What's 0:58:45.320 --> 0:58:47.880 your hand? What's your new handle on? Because I follow 0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:50.800 you on Instagram? What's your new handle? Shelley from Cali 0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:54.160 for the number four that's my part number because they 0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:56.920 destroy Shelley from CALLI just followed. Look at that. You 0:58:56.960 --> 0:59:00.760 got another You gotta do one? Are for the shirt 0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:05.120 for Eyes of Peer listeners. Hell yeah, if you guys, Francine, 0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:07.680 when you go to Good Vibrations boutique on anything, not 0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:10.919 just the shirts, but anything, you will save off your order. 0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:14.040 Listen to that. People get on over there and support 0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:17.920 my girl. It was a pleasure. Say cheese. I'll tweet 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:19.760 that out. So say cheese. We'll do a big smile. 0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:22.320 I'll use this picture, get my boobs in here, say 0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:28.720 big cheese. Cheese geez, I'd love to tweet that out. 0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:33.000 Love speaking with you and your points of view on 0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:37.560 things and mentioning your vagina once again. I always have 0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:43.600 to mention your vagina once per episode. Very disappointed, absolutely 0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:47.040 because I know you thought of me when you screamed 0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:49.120 it out to thank you for that. We will we 0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:53.200 will FaceTime soon to uh you know, pull each other 0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:58.680 in on private stuff. But until until we meet again, 0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:02.560 We'll have a wonderful weekend and we will talk very soon. 1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:07.760 All right, A bye baby, she's said. Cute, all right. 1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:12.360 She's always one to uh bring the heat if you will, 1:00:12.520 --> 1:00:17.040 she is, yeah, absolutely so, Uh that's Shelley Martinez. Always 1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:21.440 a good time and always love. She's great and you know, 1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:26.439 uh go get your shirt so cute. Look how cute? 1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:29.200 And green's my favorite color too. So I love this 1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:31.520 shirt and it fits nice. It doesn't fit like a 1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:34.160 big bolt. I think. I think this is a girl's size, 1:00:34.160 --> 1:00:37.080 of women's size, and it fits. It hugs the curves 1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:40.000 and it's cute. I like it. So I gotta get 1:00:40.000 --> 1:00:42.080 a vampire boy or whatever. She said. It was no, 1:00:42.120 --> 1:00:44.800 it's I think it's vampire girl. But she said the 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:48.240 vampire girl vampire guy. I think that. Okay, Well then 1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:51.280 there you go. Yeah, why would you wear well that 1:00:51.320 --> 1:00:53.920 would be a little awkward, but it was it was 1:00:54.000 --> 1:00:56.360 a picture of Shelley on it. Then I can understand, 1:00:56.480 --> 1:00:59.840 but it was what was it? It was code for 1:01:00.200 --> 1:01:05.080 scene Frans scene. Okay, Shelley's what was it the boutique? 1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:10.800 What was the exact name? Ship? All right, we heard it. 1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:13.959 I just want to make sure we get it out. Yeah, 1:01:14.000 --> 1:01:16.440 and we'll tweet it. We'll try and tweet something out 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:18.720 about it too. And the when we when we promote her, 1:01:18.760 --> 1:01:21.640 we'll tweet the code. Right, we'll find it. I'm gonna 1:01:21.640 --> 1:01:23.560 send you the picture. You tweet out that picture and 1:01:23.600 --> 1:01:27.280 drop the code. You'll have a bigger reach than me. Well, yeah, 1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:30.200 we'll go. We'll do it when the episode drops. Sure, 1:01:30.400 --> 1:01:34.280 sounds you can, you can set that up. But anything 1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:37.400 else that we didn't get to discuss is everything. Everything's okay, none, 1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:42.560 everything's great. Snow, what are we doing on Patreon this week? Well, 1:01:42.680 --> 1:01:46.400 funny you should ask. We are going to do a 1:01:46.640 --> 1:01:50.040 on the on the spot prepared thank Goodness, rock and 1:01:50.120 --> 1:01:53.680 roll quiz with our buddy CJ. Okay, the CJ's a 1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:57.280 member of our Patreon page, has been since the launch. 1:01:57.320 --> 1:02:00.480 I believe, so an O G member, and we're going 1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:03.200 to see who's smarter in the field of rock and roll. 1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:06.640 That's right, and I'll tell you what too. Another thing 1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:08.919 is about joining the Patreon is you get the chance 1:02:09.000 --> 1:02:12.760 to come on like CJ. But CJ was in Discord 1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:16.040 with you, which is another perk of Patreon, and that's 1:02:16.080 --> 1:02:19.439 how that appearance came about. Yeah, Discord is is uh 1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:22.320 is a fun a fun time every week where we 1:02:22.440 --> 1:02:25.480 discuss things that uh no one else gets to see 1:02:25.520 --> 1:02:28.760 because they're not in the in the Discord group. So 1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:31.840 come on over and join the Patreon family and you 1:02:32.160 --> 1:02:35.560 get to have take fun quizzes. And we need to 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:37.960 do a drinking game. Yes we do. We should do 1:02:38.000 --> 1:02:40.560 that when you come back from Florida, when I come back, 1:02:40.600 --> 1:02:42.760 good Lord, come back. Yeah, well we got because we 1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:44.440 have to do a lot of we can't if we 1:02:44.480 --> 1:02:46.440 record a lot in one setting, we can't have the 1:02:46.520 --> 1:02:48.440 drinking game. It's true, we have we have a we 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:50.320 have a busy couple of weeks ahead of us. So 1:02:51.360 --> 1:02:53.400 what else we got that We're going to do some 1:02:53.520 --> 1:02:58.760 hilarious stories involving wrestlers. So you ask yourself what kind 1:02:58.800 --> 1:03:01.840 of hilarious stories? Well, I mean hilarious might be subjective. 1:03:01.840 --> 1:03:04.920 There's just like interesting stories that find themselves with a 1:03:04.920 --> 1:03:10.160 wrestling component. So such and such happened to said wrestler, 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:13.240 and we'll talk about it. Okay, you don't see that happening, 1:03:13.480 --> 1:03:16.439 do you? And then the watch along Pitbull number two 1:03:16.760 --> 1:03:20.760 versus the Pittsburgh Street Team. No, this Pittsburgh Steel Team. 1:03:20.920 --> 1:03:24.200 Steel Team. I meant to say it's should be maybe 1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:26.800 it's a Steel Team. I keep saying street Team. It's well, 1:03:26.800 --> 1:03:30.080 it says steel on the copy and pasted. You can 1:03:30.120 --> 1:03:32.800 tell me either way. And I don't remember the segments. 1:03:33.440 --> 1:03:36.360 That's awesome. But we threw in a bonus too, so 1:03:36.440 --> 1:03:37.880 I won't say what that was. But there was an 1:03:37.920 --> 1:03:41.240 additional clip that we watched that we commented on as well. Yeah, 1:03:41.960 --> 1:03:44.920 and that's backs are fun. Like I said, I didn't 1:03:44.920 --> 1:03:47.760 remember this at all, and I still didn't remember we 1:03:47.840 --> 1:03:51.240 watched it. But it's a good time. Yeah, it's great. 1:03:51.240 --> 1:03:55.120 That's Patreon dot com Slash Francine podcast. And for the 1:03:55.200 --> 1:04:00.400 Creative Control new segment that we have called flashback. We're 1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:03.760 either calling it franccenes Flashback or Eyes up Here Flashback. 1:04:03.840 --> 1:04:06.720 It's like it kind of goes hand in hand. We 1:04:06.760 --> 1:04:10.280 can we can alternate what the title is going to be. 1:04:10.600 --> 1:04:14.040 We are going to take a peek into one of 1:04:14.080 --> 1:04:18.160 your favorites, the Instagram dms E. That's a good one. 1:04:18.480 --> 1:04:21.760 This is Instagram. Yeah, it's been a lot of time. 1:04:21.800 --> 1:04:26.400 This is Instagram DMS number two that we're doing. Okay, 1:04:26.600 --> 1:04:29.120 that is going to be on creative control a little 1:04:29.120 --> 1:04:31.240 bit later in the week, so you get a kind 1:04:31.280 --> 1:04:34.080 of like a fresh intro from Francine and I and 1:04:34.120 --> 1:04:36.600 then some classic content. But we will have a new 1:04:36.640 --> 1:04:42.880 episode of the flashback format coming to Awesome. And for me, 1:04:42.960 --> 1:04:46.600 it's at chat em b on Twitter, at IB Exclusives 1:04:46.640 --> 1:04:50.520 on Instagram, website, ibexclusives dot com. All my signing's going 1:04:50.560 --> 1:04:56.480 on there h new podcast alert. Oh no, not another one. Deceiving. 1:04:56.600 --> 1:05:00.240 It's gonna be at the same the same time schedule 1:05:00.320 --> 1:05:03.320 as my New Generation show, just once a month. I'm 1:05:03.320 --> 1:05:05.560 gonna not do that show. I'm gonna do something different. 1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:08.320 I'm gonna look back and this is so dorky and 1:05:08.360 --> 1:05:10.680 this is so nerdy, but this is the only thing 1:05:10.720 --> 1:05:13.040 that keeps me fresh as a fan. I'm going to 1:05:13.040 --> 1:05:18.960 go back and watch well discuss WWF's Colisey and video releases. 1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:22.800 That's what made me a fan. With the tapes you 1:05:22.800 --> 1:05:25.400 would go rent in the video store. So it's gonna 1:05:25.400 --> 1:05:27.800 be a look at the tapes, the business behind it 1:05:27.920 --> 1:05:30.959 people who are involved with it collectors. But that's gonna 1:05:30.960 --> 1:05:33.240 be one time a month on my regular feed that 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:36.360 I have new generation declassified and I believe we have 1:05:36.440 --> 1:05:40.600 all of those on our Yes. No, it's very yes 1:05:41.920 --> 1:05:44.520 to help you there content wise, I mean I only 1:05:44.520 --> 1:05:48.080 have like five VHS physical tapes, but still I'm also 1:05:48.160 --> 1:05:51.560 going on somewhat of like a recollecting journey. So there's 1:05:51.560 --> 1:05:54.320 a there's a market for this discussion, and uh, I 1:05:54.360 --> 1:05:56.720 am one to exploit the market. And you don't have 1:05:56.880 --> 1:06:00.080 to justify why you do something. If you enjoy it 1:06:00.080 --> 1:06:02.760 it then by all means you do it, so you're ready. 1:06:02.880 --> 1:06:05.640 Good for you. It's either gonna be called the Colosseum 1:06:05.800 --> 1:06:09.840 Cast or Colosseum Chad. I just haven't figured it out. 1:06:10.360 --> 1:06:12.880 Colum Chad. Yeah, I just like the name of it. 1:06:12.880 --> 1:06:14.800 I don't know why I thought that was funny. Well 1:06:15.640 --> 1:06:21.440 by my initial reaction, what was the first one? Colosseum cast? Okay, 1:06:23.000 --> 1:06:25.240 thank something else? Okay, If you want to follow me 1:06:25.280 --> 1:06:29.640 on social media, I can be found at ecw dver Francine. 1:06:30.360 --> 1:06:34.000 Twitter is my favorite platform to you, So give me 1:06:34.040 --> 1:06:36.480 a follow on that and uh, with that, that is 1:06:36.680 --> 1:06:36.800 if