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Speaker 1: All right, it's get going right here right now. This

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Speaker 1: is Eyes up Here, and you're listening and watching and

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Speaker 1: taking a brand new episode of Eyes up Here on

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Speaker 1: our Patreon channel as well as on the Creative Control

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Speaker 1: podcast network. He didn't know by now. My name is

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Speaker 1: Chad and every single week I'm joined here by the

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Speaker 1: star of this show, the Vampire Girl. Today she's got

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Speaker 1: a very cool shurt on. We'll hear about that soon,

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Speaker 1: but it is the queen of extreme frenzy. I am

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Speaker 1: an honorary Vampire Girl today with my new shirt, and

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Speaker 1: like you said, we'll talk about that. But everything going

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Speaker 1: all right. Everything's great. Snow abunding my residence but otherwise

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Speaker 1: very good. Yes, the kids were chopping at the bit

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Speaker 1: to get outside today and I was like, well, mommy

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Speaker 1: has to work, but as soon as I'm done, we'll

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Speaker 1: venture out. So uh and you want to start hot?

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Speaker 1: I do? Is she here? We start about as hot

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Speaker 1: as you could possibly get it going. So I'm wearing

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Speaker 1: this shirt because I want to honor our guest today,

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Speaker 1: Miss Shelley Martinez is here. Where are you? This is

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Speaker 1: what I did all day yesterday. I made a studio

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Speaker 1: in my girlage. How beautiful? Is that I? At first

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Speaker 1: I said to myself, is that a ferris wheel behind her?

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Speaker 1: And why is it my time? And where is she?

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Speaker 1: But then I was like, wait a minute, No, that

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Speaker 1: looks great. I'm in my beat cave. I love it.

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Speaker 1: It looks so good. This is the first time me

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Speaker 1: using it because I spent like all day yesterday like

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Speaker 1: putting it all together because on the other side of

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Speaker 1: my garage is my gym. So it's like I've been

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Speaker 1: really trying to like focus on because there's this really

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Speaker 1: cute place in downtown La like to shoot and it

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Speaker 1: kind of has this vibe and it's like, dude, I'm

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Speaker 1: spending all this money on this like space, why not

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Speaker 1: just like make my own and just like make it better.

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Speaker 1: Like my couch sucks, it's my old couch, but you

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Speaker 1: know they'll get there. I'll get a little couch and

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Speaker 1: you can't even see your couch because your boobs take

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Speaker 1: up the whole lens. Yeah, it's exactly. Look I'm sporting today. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I said in your intro, I said, I'm an honorary

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Speaker 1: vampire girl. Absolutely, I'm not trying to steal your gimmick

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Speaker 1: by any means, but she was nice enough to send

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Speaker 1: me a shirt and I said, come on the show.

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Speaker 1: Let's promote whatever you're doing and chit chat because it's

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Speaker 1: been a hot minute. I haven't seen your face since

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Speaker 1: we did the Bikini Swimsuits Spectacular Showdown whatever it was called,

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Speaker 1: was August August. Yeah, that's terrible. You know, her and

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Speaker 1: I are the worst. We will text back and forth,

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Speaker 1: you know, because we've kept in touch now for a

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Speaker 1: million years, right, and we're always like, we need to FaceTime,

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Speaker 1: we need to sit. We never get around to it,

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Speaker 1: and it's terrible and we really need to do that.

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Speaker 1: and I'm just the spectator. So FaceTime, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: how shitty we are because we keep saying we're going

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Speaker 1: to do it and we never do it. But you're

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Speaker 1: here now. So what has been going on in the

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Speaker 1: life of uh miss Martinez? Fill us in let us know, Well,

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Speaker 1: a whole lot. Of course, I have my secret society,

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Speaker 1: that's always a given. But you know, ever since I

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Speaker 1: was in TNA, I had this idea of having this

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Speaker 1: like shirts for example, but like, you know, stuff that

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Speaker 1: I love, because something I hate more than anything is

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Speaker 1: Last couple of years, I've been trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: it's nothing to do with like my secrets societ or

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Speaker 1: posting like stuff for like my sexy content. It's like

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Speaker 1: That's where my stuff is. And on Sunday, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Vibrations boutique dot com. Oh that's the thing. So you're

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Speaker 1: how technology is sometimes, so that's a good idea. I

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Speaker 1: you know, on Twitter, you have like all these different

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Speaker 1: it down for me. So you just explained the website

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Speaker 1: that you're promoting. When you say your secret Society, okay,

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Speaker 1: Are you still doing OnlyFans? Well, here's the thing. My

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Speaker 1: secret Society is my exclusive membership for those of you

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Speaker 1: out theres I don't know, just exclusive content, whether it's videos, photos,

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Speaker 1: So that's why I have it there for them. And

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Speaker 1: shall i Martinez dot net. Some people don't like to

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Speaker 1: be on these social media platforms. They like old school.

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Speaker 1: a living lot. It's a lot, but it's worth it

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Speaker 1: because I get to do what I want to do, yes, exactly, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I do, but it's more like the foot

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Speaker 1: and say, my feet are the drizzling shits. My feet

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Speaker 1: I just can't get up and go far, you know

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433
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443
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444
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502
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508
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510
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Speaker 1: I mean it could have. We could have did so

512
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Speaker 1: much more and they just I don't know, it just

513
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Speaker 1: could it could have been bigger than it was. So

514
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Speaker 1: what's interesting is like, Okay, when we were living it, right, yeah,

515
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: it was kind of like all you and I can

516
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Speaker 1: do is just crack jokes and you know, make fun

517
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Speaker 1: of ourselves for being so unover with them. But like

518
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: it's so cool now. Is something I didn't realize when

519
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Speaker 1: I was living in it was how awesome we really were.

520
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: Like I always knew that, like our feud would have

521
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Speaker 1: been great. But when I see the footage and I'm like,

522
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like I was so busy living that

523
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: moment now that I can kind of like detached from wrestling,

524
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: I guess you'd say personally, I watch it and I'm like, dude,

525
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Speaker 1: this was like amazing, like I and it's a newer

526
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: realization that I've had. I know that might sound weird

527
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: to like the fans out there, but like to me,

528
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: it was always like when I perform, Okay, I go

529
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: and perform and I'm done. I'm not the type no

530
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: offense that goes and watches myself back over to like whatever.

531
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: I've never been that type and I'm not knocking it.

532
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that can learn. I probably

533
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: could have too my mistakes that were consistent or whatever,

534
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: but I was kind of like, I did that, moving forward,

535
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: what's the next match? What are we doing next? So

536
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: I was so in that mode when all that stuff

537
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: was going on, especially when you're on the road, because

538
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: it's like boom boom boom, boom, boom boom. Now that

539
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: I can like appreciate it, it's like, holy cow, like

540
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: we did a good job and when they gave us

541
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: that tiny amount of time, like we really killed it.

542
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: And there's some performers out there that are in wrestling

543
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: that they couldn't pull that off, and I'm really proud

544
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: that we were able to at least pull off with

545
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: a little bit that we did. Do you remember standing

546
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Speaker 1: in the back with Undertaker and giving him the spot

547
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Speaker 1: that we wanted to do with the table and asking

548
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: him for advice. Do you remember that undertakers walking by?

549
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: Shelley and I are in the back and we're like,

550
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Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great if we, uh we climb? We

551
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Speaker 1: were like fight. We think I think we were supposed

552
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Speaker 1: to have each other by the hair because you and

553
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: I came up with this spot in the back and

554
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, there's Undertaker. Let's let's pitch it to

555
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Speaker 1: him and see what he says, like like he gave

556
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Speaker 1: a ship. But he was very nice, very nice. Uh

557
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Speaker 1: We Seane and I had each other by the hair

558
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: and we go into the corner and we climb the

559
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: ropes right and there's a table and both of us

560
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: wanted to crash through the table together and we pitched yes,

561
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: and we pitched it the Undertaker and he was like, oh,

562
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: I think that sounds great. I think you should tell somebody.

563
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, well, we're telling you. And I don't

564
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Speaker 1: know if we thought that he was gonna just help us,

565
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: but he didn't. He just was like great, ladies, and

566
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: he walked away. And then I think we might have

567
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: told uh, I don't know, did we tell one of

568
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: our agents or Johnny A's and they were like, you're

569
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: not doing that. And we were like, pitch these things

570
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: and nobody wants to hear it, nobody cares, nobody listens,

571
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: and that was it. But Undertaker had a big smile,

572
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: so we thought we really died. I remember that, right.

573
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: I was like, did I dream that or did we

574
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: really pitch this to uh mister uh mister Undertaker? And

575
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: he just was like yeah, and then he walked away.

576
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: But how cool would that spot have been if we

577
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Speaker 1: were able to do that on our TV. They didn't

578
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: want us to. They didn't care to appease whatever money

579
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: making market we had, Like they didn't really care. And

580
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Speaker 1: it's domb because if they cared just a teensy bit,

581
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: we could have actually made them more money. You know. Oh,

582
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: it blows my mind. I remember Mickey James coming over

583
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: to me and catering, right, and she was just like, oh,

584
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: I heard that you and Shelley are doing something on

585
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: TV this week. Finally, because you know, I was there

586
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: forever and they never used me, and I would just

587
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: sit there and catering and eat the food and collect

588
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: my check and uh, and she was like, oh, I

589
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what you guys do. And I said, well,

590
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: it's it's not a lot. They only gave us like

591
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: two minutes. And I was sitting with her when she

592
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: watched it, and her face was literally like this, and

593
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you could say it's the shits,

594
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: It's okay, like you know, and she was so unimpressed,

595
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: but she knows as a worker it wasn't us. But

596
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: she was like her expectations were like were like it

597
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: just went down, and she just had this look of

598
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: disgust on her face and I just looked at her like,

599
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: this is my life, not yours. You know. It's interesting

600
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: because I feel most wrestlers in my career, when they

601
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: see me in the ring make that face now when

602
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: your badge is involved. It's so funny because now people

603
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: life trained with people that I worked with on the indies,

604
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: or people that been in shows of me and the indies,

605
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: they see me go, so I don't need to explain

606
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: myself whatever. So cause people want to say I suck,

607
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: I get it because when I was both Ariel and Selenas,

608
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: they didn't give me an opportunity to showcase any resting really,

609
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: So I don't blame people for that, but it's so

610
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: crazy because people who have trained with me and then

611
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: like like for example, in wwe like some of us

612
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: train together and then we get on TV eventually together,

613
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: they kind of like would have this like jobbing me

614
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: out kind of vibe like like I'm not that good

615
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: and all this because I wasn't really doing anything. And

616
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: it's like when a situation like that where we didn't

617
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: have much we could even do, like we had that crowd,

618
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: that crowd, we had them from the moment we came

619
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: out to the moment we went back in, and that's

620
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: what you do. It doesn't matter if you're doing a

621
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: bunch of moves, it doesn't matter. What matters is connecting

622
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: with the audience to make them feel like it's real.

623
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: And we made everyone in that arena feel like that

624
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: was real, and we were really pissed at each other.

625
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: We're really going at it. And so it's just funny

626
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: to me that people want to be like, oh, show

627
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: these shit and it's like, okay, you're that. Mickey said

628
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: that just no, no, no, it was just disappointment in

629
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: her face, like her face just went from a smile

630
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: to just discuss and I could see her as clear

631
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: as they and I'm just like, I hope she doesn't

632
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: think it's my fault because you're only as good as

633
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: they want you to be. It's it's it's a proven fact.

634
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: You can have all the talent in the world, but

635
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: they can make you look like shit. Because I tell

636
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: these I tell it to the fans all the time.

637
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: You have to do what they tell you to do.

638
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: I can't just walk out there and do fifty moves

639
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: because I know how and get myself up. No, no,

640
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: you have to listen to what the script calls for.

641
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: And people can't understand that, and they blame the talent,

642
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: but they should be blaming the writers, the producers, the

643
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: people who are in charge. It's not the talent's fault.

644
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: And people don't seem to realize that. So you're not

645
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: the shits. Well, don't let them make you think that

646
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: you are, because well, that's that's what I'm saying, is

647
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: like these people my whole wrestling career, there's a group

648
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: of people like in the business with us, you know,

649
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: among us that they have this opinion of me like that,

650
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: and I've never been one to be like try to

651
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: prove them wrong, because then like when I'm in training

652
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: with those same people, especially after they got a name

653
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: for themselves, they're outside of the room, not doing drills

654
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: with everybody because they think they're too over, Whereas me,

655
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: I did it because I had a show to do

656
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: that weekend. I want to make sure my footwork's good.

657
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: That's why I train. I train so that I don't

658
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: mess up in my matches and I'm crisp and I

659
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: can be more present in my characters instead of being like, oh, okay,

660
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: and then what. So it's funny to me that these

661
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: people want to have this opinion and that's why I

662
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: say that have trained with me so they know and like,

663
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: because I don't go and try to prove myself, they

664
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: like continue to like what. And it's so funny because

665
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't need to prove myself to anybody.

666
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm saving my body, so like whatever, Like, no,

667
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: I've already done stupid stuff already with my body. I

668
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: don't need it for you to be like, oh, Shelley

669
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: is good. I remember I had a match and it

670
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: was a really awesome match and it was with a

671
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: girl who in real life I had a very ugly

672
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: falling out with, and later I found out that they

673
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: booked that match because they thought I was gonna beat

674
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: her up. So I was like, are you kidding me?

675
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: So it's already set up right well, her and I,

676
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: she called me, owned up to everything, apologized, and we

677
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: talked things out so we can have a good match

678
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: and be civil Because prior to her screwing me over,

679
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: I always thought I'd have an amazing match with her,

680
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: so I always wanted to rescue her. So I thought

681
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: it was really cool that I got that moment. And

682
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: then we had this awesome match. And one of the

683
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 1: people that booked me when I came to the back,

684
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: instead of him being like damn, that was awesome, like

685
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: the crowd was like all about it, he was like mad.

686
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: He goes, oh, I could tell you've been training. I'm like, yeah,

687
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: you're good. That was really good. And I never heard

688
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: from that person ever again. It's so bizarre. It goes

689
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: back to like I remember the first night that uh,

690
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't know where we were, but the first night

691
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: that they put me with balls and we did the uh,

692
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: the thing with with you and Kevin and we got

693
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: all four of us were so over and Johnny Ace

694
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: was so happy in the back. Do you remember that

695
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: liked the arena? They were so loud. They were so

696
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: loud throughout the whole thing. And it was the night

697
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna tell this story. It was the night

698
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: that I was driving with Al Snow and I had

699
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: parfaits for Do you remember this? I got two parfays

700
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: from McDonald Gotta remember the story. Two parfays from McDonald's.

701
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: We did a drive through and I didn't want a

702
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: burger and I didn't want chicken. I said, I'll be healthy.

703
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: I'll have two parfaes with a fruit parfe with like

704
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: yogurt and granola and all this shit, right, And it

705
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: was you and me and the boys out there, and

706
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: I had I don't know if I was practicing the

707
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: Luthez jump before TV or I did something. We did

708
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: something together. But I was having bathroom problems because of

709
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: all the granola and the yogurt. Do you remember this?

710
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Shelley, if I run away, you'll know why.

711
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: It was a house show. It wasn't TV. And I

712
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: kept running to the back. We were in garrilla. I'm like,

713
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: I'll be right back, ran to the bathroom, but we

714
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: went out there. I finally I calmed my stomach down

715
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: and we went out there. The place was so freaking loud,

716
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: and I remember coming to the back and thinking, this

717
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: is gonna be great because we won't have to do

718
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: the bikini bullshit anymore. We're gonna get to work. We're

719
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: gonna get to work together, which we were comfortable with

720
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,959
Speaker 1: each other, and I thought there was gonna be this big,

721
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 1: long program and Johnny pulled me to the side, told

722
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: me how over we all were, this, that and the other,

723
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: and then they completely share on us. And I don't

724
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: understand why companies do this. I don't get it now.

725
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: I know Balls took drugs and ruined, ruined me and him,

726
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: but I mean they could put me with someone else

727
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: and they chose not to, So I mean it makes

728
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: it made me think, am I that horrible a performer? Like?

729
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: Did they not see something in me? That pause all

730
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: in me? Like it's it's just it's a mind. It

731
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: screws with your mind, it really doesn't. It makes you

732
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: think that you're worthless, and that company is They're they're

733
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: known for it, and it's a shame. The thing is is, like,

734
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: first of all, I was so distracted behind the scenes,

735
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: like when people were like, oh, like how I was

736
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: always tell people I was too busy. Unfortunately, this makes

737
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: me my vomit chasing unavailable guys that I wanted to

738
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: be my boyfriend. So but the thing is is I'm

739
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: kind of glad that I'm a Stage five clinger like

740
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: that because Stage five, like I think me being distracted

741
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: with chasing these guys I wanted to be my boyfriend.

742
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: It kept me away from like the politics. I had

743
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: no idea until like like towards the end. And then

744
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: years after I left of like how like all these

745
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: weird things that were going on behind the phone. Oh dude,

746
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: I never politics. And I got in trouble for not

747
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: politics and which which blows my mind. And then I

748
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: was told rub oil on your chest and go knock

749
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: on Vince McMahon's door and lean over with your boobs

750
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: hanging out. One of the agents told me to do that.

751
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Do you believe that? Ball, I go, I'm not doing that,

752
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: And I didn't do it, and probably that's that's probably

753
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: why I got released. Probably that's what that's what went

754
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: on there. And that's the thing is like I was

755
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: so in my own world that I only knew these things,

756
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: like I said towards the end, because I'll never have

757
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: name names so people don't come for me. But people

758
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: have confided in me the things that they've done, and

759
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: they didn't feel good about it. And I don't know

760
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: if it was because I was kind of like after

761
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: you left, I kind of just kind of stayed to myself.

762
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: You know. I was friendly like to everybody, but like

763
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: stayed to myself. So I think that some people kind

764
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: of noticed I didn't get involved in drama and stuff,

765
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 1: so they confided in me, and I was like, wait,

766
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: what what this is going on? So my whole thing

767
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: is I'm dying to know what was said about me

768
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, like when you're like sitting at the

769
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: table or on the phone call and they're like we're

770
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: going to fire that area, like what was said? Like

771
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: I think it's so like I want to know, not

772
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: because it's like them, I think I would be. I

773
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: think it's funny, like does Vince McMahon think I'm a

774
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: dumb bitch? Like like I want hair? And then as

775
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: time goes on, it's funny because then I'll find out.

776
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: I'll talk to somebody and they'll be like, well, you know,

777
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: this is what happened, and I'm like, oh, now it

778
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: makes sense. And it's so funny because there's people I've

779
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: confronted like hey, I know you have an issue with me.

780
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, And then life will go on

781
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: and then people will fill in the blanks and I'm like,

782
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, I think it's hilarious. So hey, anyone

783
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: watching out there, you want to anonymously write me to

784
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: tell me what was said. Please. There was some guy

785
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: I can't remember who it bothers me I worked on

786
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 1: the indie show, and he said that he was there

787
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: the day that me and Batista got into it, and

788
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: like he filled in some blanks. And this wasn't until

789
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: like in the last like five years, two years or

790
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: so that I found this out. So when he filled

791
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: in some like blanks, I was like, oh my gosh,

792
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: because to me, it was just like, Okay, this happened,

793
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: and then this happened in this and then like I

794
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: performed and then I came back and then whatever, and

795
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: I got fired. So to hear like what happened in

796
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: the guy's locker room and what was being said. I

797
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: was like, ah, yeah, like being a fly on the wall, right, funny.

798
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate there there. I always say, there was

799
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: so much talent that has been misused that has walked

800
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: through that door, and it's just it's not the talent

801
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: at all, you know. And I ask you guys a question. Yeah,

802
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: I'm sorry interrupt. Do you think it's still like that

803
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: today or do you think it's evolved at all? Nope,

804
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: I think it's exactly the same same thing. I kind

805
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: of also think it's who you know, and and I

806
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: still stand by you know, homegrown talent gets a better

807
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: shot than somebody you know, I can. And I hate

808
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: using this term superstar because I don't think of myself

809
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: as a superstar at all, but being a superstar in

810
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: air quotes in another company and then going there, and

811
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: I tried to be as humble as I possibly. I mean,

812
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: I was in catering, getting the girl's stuff from catering

813
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: that were in the business for five years, and at

814
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: that point I was in the business for thirteen years.

815
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: I had more seniority than any other girl in that

816
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: locker room. And I'm like, oh, would you like a cookie?

817
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to catering. Would you like a bottle

818
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: of wa? Just trying to fit in because I don't

819
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: know these people, and I'm trying to make friends, especially

820
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: because you know you had the wrong and SmackDown rosters

821
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: with us at the time, you know, And so I'm

822
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: just trying to be friends with all these girls. And

823
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: I think I came in with zero ego and I

824
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: was still treated like like one guy told me, oh,

825
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: you should try and join the Diva Search. I said,

826
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: the Diva sarch Are you kidding me right now? Like what, well,

827
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: you know they like the Diva Search. Girl, I'm like,

828
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm so First of all, I'm thirty four years old.

829
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to join the friggin Diva Search. Like.

830
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: It just pissed me. I was pissed. I was. I

831
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: wasn't bitter, but I was just mad that I was

832
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: stuck in a bikini, which I didn't do in my twenties.

833
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: Now I'm in my mid thirties and they have us

834
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: running around in bikinis, rolling all over the matt like idiots,

835
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was the same thing

836
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: every single weekend, and I just I hated going. I

837
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: hate it. The only reason why I liked it was

838
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: to see like you and to hang out with the girls,

839
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: because we were starting to get like a little chummy

840
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: except for one that we show, you know, we were

841
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: starting to hang out and have a good time and

842
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: and it just it's just a they screwed your mind

843
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: and it made me sick to come to work sometimes

844
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: when I got that phone call and was like, oh,

845
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: you're not need it this weekend, Like Howard would be

846
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: scared to call me and he's like for eight scene.

847
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, please tell me I'm staying home this weekend

848
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: and he's like, are you okay with that? I'm like, absolutely,

849
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: just send me my check on Monday, because it was dreaming.

850
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: It was draining getting on that airplane and doing four

851
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 1: days and not being not being appreciated and not being used,

852
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: you know, Like I remember Ted Dbassi walking in, Well

853
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: you're not working tonight, but I'm sure you don't care.

854
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, ew, like, what kind of attitude

855
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: is not to get How do you know you don't

856
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: even know me? I would just stand that guy. By

857
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: the way, I just didn't throw that out there, But anyway,

858
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: he wasn't very nice. I mean, I hate to say

859
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: he wasn't nice to me. And I never did anything

860
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: to him, but the stuff he would say to me,

861
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, really, sir, how do you know?

862
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: I don't care, you know, as an asshole. I don't

863
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: care he's an asshole. I don't like him. I'm just like, okay,

864
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, just not not being given a fair shot today.

865
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: I feel like, and even back then, I feel like

866
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: it's who you know. If you're chummy, if you have

867
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: an inn, if you have a previous relationship with someone,

868
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: if you're a spouse. I think it's a lot easier

869
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: to get a spot than if you are a name

870
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: from somewhere else and you're established. And you know, I

871
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: was lucky because they didn't change my name because it's

872
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: my birth name, so I got to use my name

873
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: that I was known for. But they could have gave

874
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: me a shit. I could have been Gertrude for all

875
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: I know and walked out. I mean, who cares. I

876
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: just all I wanted to do was work, and they

877
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: didn't let me. And I just feel like you and

878
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: I could have had something really magical together and they

879
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: just didn't let us do it. So it was just

880
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity. We'll never know. I think that's like

881
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: when people like throughout the years have asked me, you know,

882
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: a different interview or just conversations. What it boils down

883
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: to for me is once I started to see how

884
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: some people were getting ahead and it was on more

885
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: on the shady side or whatever. To me, the way

886
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: I looked at it was that's not my business. These

887
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: are grown adults making their own choices. If that's what

888
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: you choose to do, that's your deal. I'll look this way.

889
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: And what annoyed me was I wasn't being someone that's

890
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: trying to ruffle feathers. I wasn't somebody that was trying

891
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: to start problems or trying to be a do gooder.

892
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: I just kind of kept to myself, did my thing,

893
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: and when I saw these things going down, I didn't

894
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: even judge these people. It was just like, okay, that's

895
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: how it is, all right, Or maybe somebody kind of

896
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: rubbed me wrong and I found out like they're not

897
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: maybe the best person. I would be like, okay, now

898
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: that makes sense, cool whatever, Like I can move on

899
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: from that. So I felt like it was almost like

900
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: I got punished for not rolling going with the flow. Yeah,

901
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: and he's like, at least I didn't make any troubles,

902
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: like you you respectful, You just And the thing is

903
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: is like when you say, oh, you ask these girls

904
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: what they want, it's called just being a nice person.

905
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: It's called being a thoughtful person, like who cares, like

906
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, And so it's like I kind of feel

907
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. Was like I could have

908
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: made I could have been difficult, like these other girls

909
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: are very difficult and drama. But but like I'm getting

910
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: the job done. And the thing is, I made a

911
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: tweet not too long ago, and I said something to

912
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: the effect about how wwe never gave me any direction

913
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: with my character. I just did it, and they saw

914
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: I was doing a good job and let me go

915
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: with it. And then I said, and it's something to

916
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: the effect to wrestlers that remember, like you create, you know,

917
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: bring life to your characters, not a company you And

918
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: my whole point was when people get down in the

919
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: dumps about getting fired, I feel like I've already gone

920
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: through that process. So like I'm like many years like

921
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: of going through all the feelings and emotions, and I

922
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: didn't really see, especially because the Internet wasn't what it

923
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: was is today. When I fed, there was no one

924
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: out there talking that I could relate to because it

925
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: was either people were totally trashing like WWE, or they're

926
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: praising them. So it's like I didn't feel like anyone

927
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: was like, man, this really sucks, Like I used to

928
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: like disappointments whatever. So I try to like do that

929
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: for the generation now. That's like my little do good

930
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: or deed for wrestling paying forward is I wish I

931
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: could have come across some video or a pose that

932
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: someone that gets it. And it's so crazy because a

933
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: lot of people were like, oh, well, not everyone gets

934
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: that creative, and like that's not the point. The point

935
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: is is that whether it's you and your creation before

936
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: wwan was an ECW or how I came into my

937
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: own as Aeriel and learned how to be in front

938
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: of the audience like that, it's like we created these

939
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: characters and brought them to life, and it sucks that

940
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 1: there's a lot of versions of us that like didn't

941
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: get that chance for whatever reason. But I think people

942
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: need to remind themselves out there, especially the wrestlers of today.

943
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: It's like you're still you, you you could still you're still

944
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: that character. Like they just don't pay you anymore and

945
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: that sucks you're not making that money. But like it

946
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: makes me sad to see people literally like put all

947
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: their self worth and if they're with specifically WWE or not,

948
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh guy, I know, and it's not

949
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: my business, but it just breaks my heart because we're

950
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: all going to get old and one day you can't

951
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: do wrestling anymore, you know, you know, see like they

952
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: can't do wrestling anymore, and they're gonna sit there and

953
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: be like, because WWE never hired me, I'm a failure

954
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: and it's like so not true. It's yeah, And I

955
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: always say when I got well, I said it after

956
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: because it's like you said, the Internet wasn't what it

957
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: was when we were there. But I always say, like,

958
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world when you get

959
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: released by WWE, or if you never get to work

960
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 1: for WWE. You become a wrestler because you're a fan.

961
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: I always say, we're all marks, right, We're all marks.

962
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: That's why we got into the business because we love

963
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: the sport, we love the business, we love performing, and

964
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: just because somebody did not see the potential that you

965
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: have does not mean that you're not a good performer.

966
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: I thrived inn E CW. I was the drizzling shits

967
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: in WWE. It's not my fault. I did exactly what

968
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: I was told to do, and I was held down

969
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: by the man spot to speak. You know. I went

970
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: in Johnny Ace's office and cried my eyes out and

971
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: pitched and pitched and pitched. You can only pitch for

972
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: so long, you know. And like you said, I had

973
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: my integrity. I wasn't going to rub oil on my

974
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: boobs and lower myself and go in there and you know,

975
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: try to be like a sex object behind closed doors

976
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: when it's not on camera. I had a hard enough

977
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: time being sexy on camera, let alone trying to do

978
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: it in real life to a man that I don't

979
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: even know, that's you know, forty years older than me,

980
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: married or whatever he is married, And that's not my gig.

981
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: That wasn't I don't politic, I never had to, so

982
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: for them to be mad at me for not politicking,

983
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: I got in trouble for staying in the locker room

984
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: too long. Yeah, you disappear, you stay in the locker room.

985
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: You're reading a book, I said, while I'm staying out

986
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: of people's way. Well, that's like watching paint dry, That's

987
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: what I was told. I said, Well, what would you

988
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: like me to do? What am I supposed to do?

989
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: Do you want me to cause a problem? Start? Do

990
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: you want me to mix it up with these you know,

991
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: form a gang? Like do you what do you want

992
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: me to do? Here? I had no idea what they

993
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: wanted me to do behind the scenes, because I never

994
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: had to do it before. You know, it was just like, oh,

995
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: you can work, okay, here, try this, get yourself over.

996
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: I did it worked. I worked for seven years before

997
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: we went bankrupt. You know. Then I go to this

998
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: other company, I try and work and they don't let me,

999
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: and it's like I'm done, you know. And it does

1000
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: leave a bitter taste in your mouth. But I knew

1001
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't me, you know. Just because he didn't see

1002
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: something in me doesn't mean I'm worthless. And and these

1003
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: other performers need to realize that's not the holy grail.

1004
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: You know. For some people it is their lifelong dream,

1005
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: but especially nowadays, they're so many other companies to work

1006
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: for and to thrive and if you never get on

1007
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: TV and you're doing indies and you're loving life, then

1008
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: that's all that matters. That's all that matters. Like and

1009
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like the people who I feel are

1010
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: the most cutthroat that I've met, and through wrestling, I

1011
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: realize those aren't the kind of people I like to

1012
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: keep company with anything because they're taking it to I feel.

1013
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: I connect with people in the business that, Okay, maybe

1014
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: they can get distracted with WWE here and there, but

1015
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: they do it because they love this business. They do

1016
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: it because they want to be in that ring, and

1017
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: they love the feeling it is to connect with that

1018
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: audience and to tell that damn story, and it's just

1019
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: it's an amazing feeling, you know, It's an amazing, undescribable feeling,

1020
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: especially when you got that audience right. So to me,

1021
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: these people who are like the butt heads I call them,

1022
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: they're like so driven by ego that they've like lost

1023
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: sight of and then that's where you see them get

1024
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: so down in the dumps when they get fired, and

1025
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: it's like, first of all, you know you're gonna try

1026
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: to go back, and you probably will, so like why

1027
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: are you crying about it and like s it's a

1028
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: bad example, and I feel like it makes people of

1029
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: the younger generations feel like, oh see, I have to

1030
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: because of Da Da And it's like, man, there's so

1031
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: many amazing companies. That's what I discovered my second time

1032
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: going back to the indies because I grew up in

1033
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: California and at that time, there wasn't much wrestling going

1034
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: on over here, like there was just a very It

1035
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: was hard. It was like, I mean, I had to

1036
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: get cast in an independent film about wrestling to find

1037
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: out how to be a wrestler, Like it just wasn't

1038
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: common knowledge like how it is in other parts of

1039
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: the country. So nowadays, more than ever, it's like, you

1040
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: know these amazing companies, Like I remember there's this company.

1041
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: Now I don't like the guy that runs it, I'll

1042
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: say that, But beyond wrestling, I remember when I went there,

1043
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this is amazing being chills right now.

1044
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: I didn't really do much there. I was like a valet,

1045
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: but I felt it and I was like, this is

1046
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: why I love wrestling, and I needed that. And then

1047
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: there's a company, Hodslam that I worked with for a

1048
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: while and it's like they made me like I felt

1049
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: like Beyond was kind of like the East Coast version

1050
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: of Hudslam a little bit, and I just got to

1051
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: be around these performers that just wanted to connect. So

1052
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: it's like, it makes me sad when people just think

1053
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: like they're all their worth is just like gone because

1054
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: they're not there. Or when I was in TNA, there'd

1055
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: be people that were killing it in TNA with their character,

1056
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: like killing it, but they still behind the scenes when

1057
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: I talked to them, they wanted that WWE it wasn't

1058
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: good enough, and it's like, look what you have right now.

1059
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: This is awesome, Like you have this. You might not

1060
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: have that there, you might not be able to do

1061
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: this there. But it's like my opinion, it's like this

1062
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: brainwash of you're not worth anything unless you're here, and

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00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: I write that right, and that's why I try to

1064
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: just tell them that, don't let them make you feel

1065
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: that way, you know, Because Yeah, I was sad when

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00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: when I got released, because I think I was more

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00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: sad because I didn't know what my next step was

1068
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: going to be at that point, not so much I'm

1069
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: gone from the company, because I really wasn't happy there. Anyway.

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00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: But I've said it time and time again. If I

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00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: did not take that job, there, you and I wouldn't

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00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: be as close as we are now. So that's the

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00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: one good thing that I got out of it. So

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00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: happy about that. But tell everyone where they can find

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00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: you and how they can join your eighty seven projects

1076
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: that you're doing. Eighty eight Now there you go, coming up. Yes,

1077
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: so if you just go to Shelley'slinks dot com, everything

1078
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: is listed there. But if you are interested in joining

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00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: my exclusive fan club, then you can go to Shelley

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00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: Secret Society dot com and then it's all laid out

1081
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: there a little bit better. You have to keep clicking

1082
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: through Shelley's Links, but yeah, everything's there. And go to

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00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Good Vibrations boutique dot com. There's gonna be you can

1084
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: get the vampire girl or guy shirt. Got lots of

1085
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: other awesome things on their cool products coming soon. And

1086
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: oh and follow me on Instagram. My Instagram's coming back

1087
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: slowly but surely. Uh. Long story short, Instagram deleted me

1088
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: without any questions asked, and I have like thirty four

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00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: thousand followers. And for someone that hadn't been on TV

1090
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: for so long, I was proud that, like I put

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00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: my time in and so it's like with like when

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00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: I work with other companies and things like that. It

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00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: just helps me people with my little side gigs. What's

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00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: your hand? What's your new handle on? Because I follow

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00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: you on Instagram? What's your new handle? Shelley from Cali

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00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: for the number four that's my part number because they

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00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: destroy Shelley from CALLI just followed. Look at that. You

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00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: got another You gotta do one? Are for the shirt

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00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: for Eyes of Peer listeners. Hell yeah, if you guys, Francine,

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00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: when you go to Good Vibrations boutique on anything, not

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00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 1: just the shirts, but anything, you will save off your order.

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00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: Listen to that. People get on over there and support

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00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: my girl. It was a pleasure. Say cheese. I'll tweet

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00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: that out. So say cheese. We'll do a big smile.

1105
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: I'll use this picture, get my boobs in here, say

1106
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: big cheese. Cheese geez, I'd love to tweet that out.

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00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: Love speaking with you and your points of view on

1108
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: things and mentioning your vagina once again. I always have

1109
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: to mention your vagina once per episode. Very disappointed, absolutely

1110
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: because I know you thought of me when you screamed

1111
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: it out to thank you for that. We will we

1112
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: will FaceTime soon to uh you know, pull each other

1113
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: in on private stuff. But until until we meet again,

1114
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: We'll have a wonderful weekend and we will talk very soon.

1115
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: All right, A bye baby, she's said. Cute, all right.

1116
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: She's always one to uh bring the heat if you will,

1117
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: she is, yeah, absolutely so, Uh that's Shelley Martinez. Always

1118
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: a good time and always love. She's great and you know,

1119
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 1: uh go get your shirt so cute. Look how cute?

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01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: And green's my favorite color too. So I love this

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01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: shirt and it fits nice. It doesn't fit like a

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01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: big bolt. I think. I think this is a girl's size,

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01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: of women's size, and it fits. It hugs the curves

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01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: and it's cute. I like it. So I gotta get

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01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: a vampire boy or whatever. She said. It was no,

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01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: it's I think it's vampire girl. But she said the

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01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: vampire girl vampire guy. I think that. Okay, Well then

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01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, why would you wear well that

1129
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: would be a little awkward, but it was it was

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01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: a picture of Shelley on it. Then I can understand,

1131
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: but it was what was it? It was code for

1132
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: scene Frans scene. Okay, Shelley's what was it the boutique?

1133
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: What was the exact name? Ship? All right, we heard it.

1134
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,959
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we get it out. Yeah,

1135
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: and we'll tweet it. We'll try and tweet something out

1136
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: about it too. And the when we when we promote her,

1137
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: we'll tweet the code. Right, we'll find it. I'm gonna

1138
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: send you the picture. You tweet out that picture and

1139
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: drop the code. You'll have a bigger reach than me. Well, yeah,

1140
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: we'll go. We'll do it when the episode drops. Sure,

1141
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: sounds you can, you can set that up. But anything

1142
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: else that we didn't get to discuss is everything. Everything's okay, none,

1143
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: everything's great. Snow, what are we doing on Patreon this week? Well,

1144
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: funny you should ask. We are going to do a

1145
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: on the on the spot prepared thank Goodness, rock and

1146
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: roll quiz with our buddy CJ. Okay, the CJ's a

1147
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: member of our Patreon page, has been since the launch.

1148
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: I believe, so an O G member, and we're going

1149
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: to see who's smarter in the field of rock and roll.

1150
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: That's right, and I'll tell you what too. Another thing

1151
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 1: is about joining the Patreon is you get the chance

1152
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: to come on like CJ. But CJ was in Discord

1153
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: with you, which is another perk of Patreon, and that's

1154
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,439
Speaker 1: how that appearance came about. Yeah, Discord is is uh

1155
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: is a fun a fun time every week where we

1156
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: discuss things that uh no one else gets to see

1157
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: because they're not in the in the Discord group. So

1158
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: come on over and join the Patreon family and you

1159
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: get to have take fun quizzes. And we need to

1160
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: do a drinking game. Yes we do. We should do

1161
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: that when you come back from Florida, when I come back,

1162
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: good Lord, come back. Yeah, well we got because we

1163
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: have to do a lot of we can't if we

1164
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: record a lot in one setting, we can't have the

1165
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: drinking game. It's true, we have we have a we

1166
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: have a busy couple of weeks ahead of us. So

1167
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: what else we got that We're going to do some

1168
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: hilarious stories involving wrestlers. So you ask yourself what kind

1169
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: of hilarious stories? Well, I mean hilarious might be subjective.

1170
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: There's just like interesting stories that find themselves with a

1171
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: wrestling component. So such and such happened to said wrestler,

1172
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it. Okay, you don't see that happening,

1173
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 1: do you? And then the watch along Pitbull number two

1174
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: versus the Pittsburgh Street Team. No, this Pittsburgh Steel Team.

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01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: Steel Team. I meant to say it's should be maybe

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01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: it's a Steel Team. I keep saying street Team. It's well,

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01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: it says steel on the copy and pasted. You can

1178
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: tell me either way. And I don't remember the segments.

1179
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: That's awesome. But we threw in a bonus too, so

1180
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: I won't say what that was. But there was an

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01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: additional clip that we watched that we commented on as well. Yeah,

1182
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: and that's backs are fun. Like I said, I didn't

1183
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: remember this at all, and I still didn't remember we

1184
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: watched it. But it's a good time. Yeah, it's great.

1185
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: That's Patreon dot com Slash Francine podcast. And for the

1186
01:03:55,200 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: Creative Control new segment that we have called flashback. We're

1187
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: either calling it franccenes Flashback or Eyes up Here Flashback.

1188
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: It's like it kind of goes hand in hand. We

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01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: can we can alternate what the title is going to be.

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01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: We are going to take a peek into one of

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01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: your favorites, the Instagram dms E. That's a good one.

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01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: This is Instagram. Yeah, it's been a lot of time.

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01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: This is Instagram DMS number two that we're doing. Okay,

1194
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: that is going to be on creative control a little

1195
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: bit later in the week, so you get a kind

1196
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: of like a fresh intro from Francine and I and

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01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: then some classic content. But we will have a new

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Speaker 1: episode of the flashback format coming to Awesome. And for me,

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Speaker 1: it's at chat em b on Twitter, at IB Exclusives

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01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: on Instagram, website, ibexclusives dot com. All my signing's going

1201
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: on there h new podcast alert. Oh no, not another one. Deceiving.

1202
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: It's gonna be at the same the same time schedule

1203
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: as my New Generation show, just once a month. I'm

1204
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: gonna not do that show. I'm gonna do something different.

1205
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look back and this is so dorky and

1206
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: this is so nerdy, but this is the only thing

1207
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: that keeps me fresh as a fan. I'm going to

1208
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: go back and watch well discuss WWF's Colisey and video releases.

1209
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: That's what made me a fan. With the tapes you

1210
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: would go rent in the video store. So it's gonna

1211
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: be a look at the tapes, the business behind it

1212
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,959
Speaker 1: people who are involved with it collectors. But that's gonna

1213
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: be one time a month on my regular feed that

1214
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: I have new generation declassified and I believe we have

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01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: all of those on our Yes. No, it's very yes

1216
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: to help you there content wise, I mean I only

1217
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: have like five VHS physical tapes, but still I'm also

1218
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: going on somewhat of like a recollecting journey. So there's

1219
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: a there's a market for this discussion, and uh, I

1220
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: am one to exploit the market. And you don't have

1221
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: to justify why you do something. If you enjoy it

1222
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: it then by all means you do it, so you're ready.

1223
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: Good for you. It's either gonna be called the Colosseum

1224
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: Cast or Colosseum Chad. I just haven't figured it out.

1225
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: Colum Chad. Yeah, I just like the name of it.

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01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought that was funny. Well

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01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: by my initial reaction, what was the first one? Colosseum cast? Okay,

1228
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: thank something else? Okay, If you want to follow me

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01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: on social media, I can be found at ecw dver Francine.

1230
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: Twitter is my favorite platform to you, So give me

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01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: a follow on that and uh, with that, that is

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: if