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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Buck Sexton is soon going to be headed

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Speaker 1: to Scotland. I think he's doing today's show in a

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Speaker 1: kilt in New York City as we all get ready

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Speaker 1: for that departure. Are you excited to get on the

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Speaker 1: plane ahead to Scotland.

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Speaker 2: I've promised Carrie that I'm not going to put on

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Speaker 2: a kilt the first day, but I make no promises

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Speaker 2: about the rest of my time there. I may ask

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Speaker 2: a lot of strangers where I can get the best hagis.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Have you ever had hagis before? I've never

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Speaker 1: been to.

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Speaker 2: Scotland, I've never had hagas. I've really never even been

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Speaker 2: to the UK before, which is so this is real

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Speaker 2: first time star. I made like a stopover on the

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Speaker 2: way to Eastern Europe when I was like thirteen, and

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Speaker 2: I was in London for basically a day, but that

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Speaker 2: doesn't really count it. I don't even remember it. So

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Speaker 2: I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I've seen heard so many times that I can basically

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Speaker 2: do any scene from the movie at this point, like

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Speaker 2: not even the famous ones, only like I can you

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Speaker 2: could tell me any part of it. I could jump

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Speaker 2: in and play both sides of it. Also, Clay, have

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Speaker 2: you and missus Travis watched Outlander together? No, I don't

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Speaker 2: know anything about Outlander. Outlander is gonna if you try it,

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Speaker 2: it will suck you in. The Guys like it, the

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Speaker 2: ladies like it. It's a very wide especially the first

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Speaker 2: couple of seasons, very carry and I are into it

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Speaker 2: right now, very watchable show.

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Speaker 1: So so you will be posting you're gonna love the castles?

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Speaker 1: Will you be posting photos and things on Instagram for

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Speaker 1: people who are left state side during this trip? Or

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Speaker 1: is this a no social media and I end never

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Speaker 1: will I'll take photos. I usually like to do all

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Speaker 1: the posting when I come back. It was really nice.

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Speaker 2: I so appreciate everybody who was saying nice things about

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Speaker 2: me getting married this past week. But it's just because

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Speaker 2: we finally got the photos, you know, from the photographer.

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Speaker 2: So people were like, you got married, I'm like, actually

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Speaker 2: seven months ago, eight months ago, but you know, we

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Speaker 2: just hadn't really gotten around to posting the the That's

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Speaker 2: the thing everyone, the photos you take with your own

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Speaker 2: phones these days. Those are always the ones that end

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Speaker 2: up getting shared about the event right away, you know,

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Speaker 2: professional photos. They got to retouch him andever it takes longer.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. So Bucks with us here for the first

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Speaker 1: half the show that he's heading legitimately to scott Scotland,

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Speaker 1: which should be pretty awesome. All right, We got a

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Speaker 1: ton of stories that are out there. First, I saw

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Speaker 1: Trump yesterday, Buck, he was in Nashville doing a fundraiser

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Speaker 1: Kid Rock, and was he like Clay.

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Speaker 2: I hear some of the ladies think you're very hot,

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Speaker 2: but probably not as hot as me. Let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: because the hottest.

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Speaker 1: Kid Rock and John Rich brought him out very Nashville flavor.

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Speaker 1: And so I got to talk to Trump for a

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Speaker 1: little bit, and he now is making the argument. As

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Speaker 1: we get ready for the for the official launch, I

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Speaker 1: would say, I think the first debate is really in

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Speaker 1: many ways the official launch. I think we have audio

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Speaker 1: of Trump making the argument that everybody else should drop

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Speaker 1: out as he now has opened this forty point lead.

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Speaker 1: So I want to get your take on this. Buck. Also,

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Speaker 1: we need to talk about Ron DeSantis' debate strategy getting leaked.

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Speaker 1: We got the fallout continuing in Maui, which is which

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Speaker 1: is awful? And Bill Barr and Brian Kemp and Vivek

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Speaker 1: Ramaswami rising a bunch of different levels to dive into.

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Speaker 1: But let's start here Trump now. Yesterday, I believe Buck

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Speaker 1: made the argument, Hey, I've opened up such a big lead,

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Speaker 1: it's time for everybody to come together. Listen to that.

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Speaker 3: Great Paul's just out leading by forty fifty at even

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Speaker 3: sixty points.

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Speaker 1: Who expected that?

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Speaker 3: I did, Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, all very strong,

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Speaker 3: but also leading Biden very big. The sanctimonious is crashing.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps the party should come together. People should drop out

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Speaker 3: of the race. We unify, and we beat Biden and

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Speaker 3: the Democrats. They should be easy to beat because our

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay, so correct. I want to get into

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Speaker 1: let me say this too. Trump talked for an hour

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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna say the things that he talked about,

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Speaker 1: but i will in generality say this, Buck almost nothing

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Speaker 1: about DeSantis or attacking any other Republican. He went almost

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Speaker 1: awful Joe Biden was. So I think on some level,

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Speaker 1: Trump has opened up such a lead that he's just

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Speaker 1: shifted his attention in many ways. He took a little

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Speaker 1: Republican debate and basically going after Biden feels like he

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Speaker 1: time to start the attack on Biden.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's acting like you've been in the

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Speaker 2: end zone before, and then there's having been in the

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: This guy was president, right, so he's been to the

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Speaker 2: big dance. He understands the dynamics involved. He's been through

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Speaker 2: a successful campaign and an unsuccessful campaign. I think there's

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Speaker 2: a learning process that comes from that too. And I

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Speaker 2: know people can say, oh, it's on is irrespective of

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Speaker 2: what everyone thinks. Joe Biden managed to become the president.

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Speaker 2: So there were lessons learned in that process. Lessons learned

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Speaker 2: about ballot measures and security and turnout and a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of things on these should the other candidates drop out?

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Speaker 1: Components of this.

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Speaker 2: Uh look, one thing that I'm curious about. First off,

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Speaker 2: all telling Ron de Santis to drop out. Why isn't

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Speaker 2: Viveke being asked to drop out? I mean, I look,

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Speaker 2: Viveke would say that he has no I'm sure if

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Speaker 2: But that strikes me.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit strange.

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Speaker 2: It's everyone needs to drop out, and by everyone we

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Speaker 2: mean Ron DeSantis. Yeah, well okay, I mean you could

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Speaker 2: make an argument the first people who should drop out

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Speaker 2: all this stuff. So you know, I think that there's

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Speaker 2: that component of it where people have a fair questions

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: I think that a primary process can be people are

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Speaker 2: of two minds about this. Let me ask you this before.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole another thing I want to ask about

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Speaker 2: the ballots, the state ballots, and a theory that could

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Speaker 2: be a real problem for Trump down the line that

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Speaker 2: people have brought up. We'll get to that in a second.

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Speaker 2: A legal problem. I mean, but there's the argument that

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Speaker 2: a primary is a gauntlet that strengthens the eventual winner,

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Speaker 2: and the argument that actually, you just spend a lot

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Speaker 2: of money, time and effort trying to become the guy,

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Speaker 2: work the gal. What do you Which side of that

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Speaker 2: do you come down on for this, because I hear

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Speaker 2: it both ways, and I think both sides at least.

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Speaker 1: Have an argument to make. So I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of being a candidate is about figuring out how to

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Speaker 1: find your voice. And I don't think that Trump needs

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Speaker 1: to figure out how to find his voice. For better

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Speaker 1: or worse, people know what Trump's voice is. I do

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Speaker 1: think there's an interesting question. The Wall Street Journal had

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Speaker 1: an argument that people need to drop out this morning

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Speaker 1: as well, Buck, but it was an argument from a

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Speaker 1: different perspective than Trump. Their argument was people need to

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Speaker 1: drop out so that we can have a legitimate race.

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Speaker 1: One v one Mono Amano, whoever's left with Trump. I

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Speaker 1: do think it's it's worth asking to everybody out there,

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Speaker 1: Vivek has made a move. I think the Veke has

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Speaker 1: been the biggest winner of the campaign. Let's say, from

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Speaker 1: the Veke is the only one who's really made a move.

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Speaker 1: Chris Christy appears to have made a little bit of

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Speaker 2: He lost ground. I mean DeSantis was within striking distance

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Speaker 2: think has been surprising to the DeSantis camp. And that's

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Speaker 2: also why you're seeing these stories planted in the media

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Speaker 2: on other campaigns, so you know, you start to see

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Speaker 1: So here's my first thing. I agree with Trump all partly,

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Speaker 1: should drop out because you have absolutely no chance. Now. Also,

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Speaker 1: if you're not on the stage, Buck, what's the total

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Speaker 1: percentage that the non people on the stage right now

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Speaker 1: have in overall support three four percent total. They're almost

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Speaker 1: non entities already. But I do think you should go

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Speaker 1: not make a big move after this Republican debate on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: so we're talking two three weeks after the debate, you

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Speaker 1: I think that you should start to drop out. I

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Speaker 1: waiving the magic wand, there should be four or five people,

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Speaker 1: all of whom believe they have legitimate candidacies that are

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Speaker 1: the line. Now, the problem you run into, and you've

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Speaker 1: talked about this a lot on the show, what do

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Speaker 1: you lose by running for presidents and not winning. This

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Speaker 1: which is that you want to find the result. Look

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Speaker 1: at the incentives.

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Speaker 2: And the incentives for prosecutors in New York and Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: for example, is throw everything you got at Trump. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter how crazy it is. It's good for you the prosecutor.

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Speaker 2: Bad for the country, but good for the prosecutor. The

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Speaker 1: For I will say this.

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Speaker 2: I think Glenn Youngkin was considering it, and I think

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Speaker 2: Get in some more of that. Also, what do you

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Speaker 2: All right, so we got lines lit and I love

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Speaker 1: Do you see any legal possibility of that? Well, my

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Speaker 1: We tried to play the rules by their rig job,

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Speaker 1: and they're still rigging it. And people can say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: why does it matter. I wanted to be because some

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Speaker 1: bookstores still take the Times list and they put you

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Speaker 1: in the front of the bookstore, So people who may

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Speaker 1: not I love all of you out there who went

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Speaker 1: and bought and made it the number one bestseller. You

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Speaker 1: guys know me. My goal with the book, and my

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Speaker 1: goal in general for anybody out here who listens, is

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Speaker 1: to win. And to win you have to reach people

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Speaker 1: who may not know you exist. And so that is

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Speaker 1: where I think the power of the Times list is

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Speaker 1: they keep people who might be interested in the arguments

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Speaker 1: that are made in this book and even on this

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Speaker 1: radio show and certainly an OutKick and everywhere else, they

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Speaker 1: keep it from being seen. They are the gatekeepers in

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Speaker 1: many ways, and it's frustrating that they're allowed to have

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Speaker 2: Think about it this way, right, Imagine Imagine how everybody

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Speaker 2: would look at h Imagine everyone would look at if

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Speaker 2: you said the number one movie in the world is

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Speaker 2: and it was some like art house film about you know,

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Speaker 2: about I don't know, like transgenderism in Iran or something,

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Speaker 2: and everyone's just like, oh, and you're like and you

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Speaker 2: leave off the list, you know, Oppenheimer or Barbie or whatever.

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Speaker 2: The biggest thing ish Sorry, we have our own way

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Speaker 2: of calculating these things, you know, it's a great point,

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Speaker 2: and you say, well, hold on a second, like, what

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Speaker 2: do you mean you have You know, if you're talking

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Speaker 2: about the best sell it's not the best book, it's

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Speaker 2: the best seller, so it's inherently dishones honest. Uh, we

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Speaker 2: have every line lit by What's fascinating Clay is we've

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Speaker 2: got every line lit and people have very different points

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Speaker 2: of view on this one. We'll start with Keith in

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Speaker 2: Polk County, Florida.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Keith, Hey, thanks for taking the call. What I want

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Speaker 6: to say is we have to stand with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 6: The reason being we've got to let these Tommies know

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Speaker 6: that they cannot do what they're trying to do, because look,

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Speaker 6: if they can do it to him, they can do

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Speaker 6: it to the next Republican.

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Speaker 1: The opinion you agree with Trump, everybody else at this

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Speaker 1: point should drop out and it should just be Hey,

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Speaker 1: Trump's the nominee. Before we even get to Iowa, before

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Speaker 1: we even get to Hampshire, let's roll that. You're you're

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Speaker 1: all in on the Trump train.

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, because he's proved the staff. I know he'll

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Speaker 6: fight for our freedom's fight. Look what what he's been through.

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Speaker 6: Richard the Hayover putting him through. The evil bastards were

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Speaker 6: trying to walk him up for the rest of his life.

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Speaker 6: They're freaking evil, and we need to stand against him

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Speaker 6: and let him know we're not gonna take this.

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Speaker 2: Well, Keith, we stand with you, sir, Thank you, thank

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Speaker 2: you for calling in. And I'm still excited that he

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Speaker 2: just refer to them as commies, by the way. I

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Speaker 2: love that, Hey, I love that.

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Speaker 1: That was great.

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Speaker 2: Keith knows what time it is, Robert in Miami, a

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Speaker 2: fellow Miami, and what's going on.

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Speaker 6: Robert, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 7: I think that to uh drop everyone out of the

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Speaker 7: race is going to limit the chances of someone else

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Speaker 7: emerging like Ramaswami. I don't think, you know, as strong

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Speaker 7: as he is, and he might actually be a good

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Speaker 7: president again if he gets the chance. But I don't

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Speaker 7: think he's going to get the chance. I think the

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Speaker 7: chances of him drawing in women votes, drawing in black votes,

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Speaker 7: drawing in younger votes are even worse than they were before.

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Speaker 7: So I don't think he's going to be able to

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Speaker 7: do it well in the general.

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Speaker 1: One thing, Thank you, Robert, I'm sorry, go you have more.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead?

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Speaker 7: Well, someone like Ramaswami. If he gets far enough, I

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Speaker 7: think would do well in the black vote. It'd be

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Speaker 7: nice to have somebody with one hundred and fifty one

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Speaker 7: fifty five IQ or whatever it is in the presidency again,

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Speaker 7: have everything, real professional organized, kick ass, and he can

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Speaker 7: also obviously learn the black vote. It's gonna be hard

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Speaker 7: for them to call him a racist. And I noticed

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Speaker 7: that Black Information Network, which is in Miami, they broadcast

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Speaker 7: from here, they referred to Ron de san As as

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Speaker 7: a thug. And that is partially as a result of

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Speaker 7: the that gas that they did with talking about slavery

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Speaker 7: was beneficial to black people because they could learn a trade.

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Speaker 1: And that's not that that's a lot. That's not what

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Speaker 1: we said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, But I think it's important everyone remember

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Speaker 2: we had the we had one of the black history

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Speaker 2: scholars involved in the creation of the one hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty or so or some odd effectively, you know, coverage

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Speaker 2: points of the curriculum. That was one of one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty and it was specifically in the context of

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Speaker 2: blacks who had been enslaved, who had become highly skilled

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Speaker 2: in a certain area upon their freedom. And I told

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Speaker 2: the story is amazing story of a ship captain who

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Speaker 2: was like turns around and starts, you know, kicking Confederate

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Speaker 2: butt out there in naval battles and doing all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: That was the point of the point, if you will,

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Speaker 2: the talking.

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Speaker 1: Point in that.

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Speaker 2: But can we get Mike in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania actually here,

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Speaker 2: because I want to Mike, you're talking about the Trump

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Speaker 2: This is this argument that these libs make. I know

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Speaker 2: it sounds crazy right now, but they might try to

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Speaker 2: use a constitutional provision, and I think it's the fourteenth

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Speaker 2: Amendment to try to kick him off a state ballot, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just I'm worried about losing basically out how

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Speaker 8: many independents can Trump bring over?

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Speaker 6: If we get.

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Speaker 8: Behind somebody like Ramaswami or Desantus, I just feel a

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Speaker 8: whole lot better about being able to win the election.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I I buck your point on if they

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Speaker 1: try to take Trump off the ballot in any state,

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Speaker 1: but in particular in the five or six where the

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Speaker 1: election is going to be decided. That is even for

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Speaker 1: what they're doing now, which is truly unprecedented, that is

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Speaker 1: a level of diabolical totalitarianism that I I find to

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Speaker 1: believe that we would be able to deal with.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's almost as crazy as for criminal indictments.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's almost any argument you could make that

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Speaker 1: they could do to Trump or try to do to Trump.

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Speaker 1: I can't even think that it's crazy enough to to

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Speaker 1: to be totally dismissing.

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Speaker 2: Dismissive, you know, in the fourteenth Amendment just over is

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Speaker 2: clear what the argument that they are making. I don't

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Speaker 2: think and I'm sure we could get one of our

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Speaker 2: favorite constitutional scholars to come on talk about this. I

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Speaker 2: think there are some hurdles to this, even if they

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Speaker 2: tried to do it. For example, Trump has not been

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Speaker 2: found guilty in a court of any act of insurrection,

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Speaker 2: and he hasn't even been charge really with I don't

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Speaker 2: I mean nothing, certainly not insurrection. He hasn't been charged

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Speaker 2: with anything that would rise this level. But they're looking

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Speaker 2: at the fourteenth Amendment, and it's banned against those who

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Speaker 2: engage in insurrection against the United States from holding any civil, military,

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Speaker 2: or elected office without the approval of two thirds of

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Speaker 2: the House and Senate the amendment. This is from the

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Speaker 2: Senate's official website. Just to be clear, the amendment prohibited

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Speaker 2: former Confederate states from repaying war debts and compensating former

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Speaker 2: slave owners the emancipation of their slave enslaved people.

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Speaker 1: That's what they tried to get. Marjorie Green kicked off.

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Speaker 1: That's from people out there who were and we had

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green on and we walked through the process.

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Speaker 1: And it is a crazy argument, but they attempted to

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Speaker 1: make it happen in Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I think in Georgia it was kind of a dry

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Speaker 2: run and a lot of people may the argue with

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Speaker 2: the time, it was kind of a practice run for

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Speaker 2: what they may try to do to Trump. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if they will go there, but it does it

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Speaker 2: can you take anything off the table when it comes

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Speaker 2: to the Democrat machine and stopping Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Now, look, when you raise the issue, I think it's absurd.

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Speaker 1: And we had I wasn't like a year and a

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Speaker 1: half ago or so. We probably had Marjorie Taylor Green

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Speaker 1: and I did all the legal research on this, and

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Speaker 1: we had her on and we walked through the argument.

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Speaker 1: But no, Buck, I mean, when you're sitting and look

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Speaker 1: at how diabolical they have been, there is nothing you

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Speaker 1: can toss out there where I say, oh, that's beneath them.

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Speaker 1: There's no way they would stoop that low. Of course,

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Speaker 1: they're going to try everything under the sun because they

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Speaker 1: are are committed to the idea that Trump is Hitler

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Speaker 1: in their minds.

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Speaker 2: some of these, some of these calls as well. I

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Speaker 2: also Will.

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Speaker 1: Clay.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk in the next hour a little

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Speaker 2: bit at the top here. I'm here in New York

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Speaker 2: now just almost on the streets.

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Speaker 1: In New York for the migrants.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy with they are asylum seekers, which is a

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Speaker 2: form of refugee status. They're getting effectively temporary refugee status.

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Speaker 2: These are refugee camps. They're setting up refugee camps in

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Speaker 2: New York City right now. That is when they think

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Speaker 2: the price tag is twelve billion dollars to deal with

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Speaker 2: this issue. Twelve billion, Okay, I think that's a that's

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Speaker 2: a big deal. Let's take I want to hear from

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Speaker 2: Gary and Fort Myers Florida. We got a lot of

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Speaker 2: Florida calls today. What's up, Gary, Hey, how are you

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Speaker 2: doing good?

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Speaker 1: We're great, good, good.

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Speaker 6: Hey.

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Speaker 9: I just had a few points I wanted to make.

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Speaker 9: I'm an independent voter voter for Ron de Santas. What

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Speaker 9: I'll say is who won their second time around? Uh

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Speaker 9: one running ran De Santa's not Donald Trump, right by

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Speaker 9: a majority, and he's been a beacon of light. The

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Speaker 9: other point I also wanted to make here in Florida

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Speaker 9: was Donald Trump was the one that had Fouci in

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Speaker 9: place and didn't take them out of their during COVID,

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Speaker 9: which I have a problem with.

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Speaker 1: Gary. Thanks for palling in. Do you have more, Gary,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to go go ahead.

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Speaker 9: No, no, no, no. That that's pretty much. I just

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Speaker 9: wanted to make those few points. You know, you know,

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Speaker 9: I hear you know the president and I love him

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Speaker 9: for what he did. But you know, most of the

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Speaker 9: young people in the independence and people I talked to

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Speaker 9: down here, you know, he may get thirty percent of

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Speaker 9: the vote there.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see, Gary. I mean, look, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: clear on this.

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Speaker 2: I think as a governor, Ron DeSantis as a governor

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Speaker 2: gets an A plus I and you know, people can

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Speaker 2: entitle their opinions they think otherwise. But I think he's

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Speaker 2: been a phenomenal governor for sure. The numbers haven't gone

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Speaker 2: his way on the on the presidential primary side. It's

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Speaker 2: just that's just where we are. Yeah, And I think

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Speaker 2: you one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 1: If they don't go his way coming out of the debate,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they're gonna move right to me,

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Speaker 1: the debate is for everybody out there. If you're Tim Scott,

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Speaker 1: you're Nicki Haley, you are Chris Christy, Ron DeSantis, Vivek,

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Speaker 1: whoever you are, I would say that's the you know,

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Speaker 1: top tier. It doesn't move your way after the debate,

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Speaker 1: you're done.

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Speaker 2: I think Bonnie in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Bonnie, what have you

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Speaker 2: got for us?

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, gentlemen. I listen to you every day.

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Speaker 4: I have read Ni this pigm toss. I'm a retired

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Speaker 4: professional woman and I'm white. I will tell you I

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Speaker 4: hear more than anybody because of my eyesight. And here's

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Speaker 4: what it is. Desanas know a woman know if Trump

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Speaker 4: would just fit back and pick the vet. I recently

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Speaker 4: heard him, and I'll tell you something. He's energetic, he's young.

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Speaker 4: He got these young people going, he got these women going,

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Speaker 4: and they would make a great team because he does

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Speaker 4: not ever down Trump. When I saw him in Cleveland,

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Speaker 4: he he he praised Trump. He never said like Christy

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Speaker 4: forget it. But he needs to whine and dine the

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Speaker 4: vet and after this debate announce it and the two

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Speaker 4: of them should go bunkers and clean this up.

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Speaker 2: So, Bonnie, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say that I

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Speaker 2: think right now the Veik is the most likely VP

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Speaker 2: candidate for Donald Trump. Now Vivee can say he won't

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Speaker 2: do that or he's uninterested in that, and that's fine

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Speaker 2: because anyone in his shoes would say that. I think

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Speaker 2: Vivek is the is the odds on favorite to be

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Speaker 2: Trump's VP if he gets the nomination, which he certainly

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Speaker 2: is the odds on favorite for So I see it

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Speaker 2: the way you do.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting point for Vivek. Now strategically, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to do really well in the debate.

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Speaker 1: But you just heard from Bonnie and Lancaster. We know Vike.

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Speaker 1: We've had him on the show a bunch of different times.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people aren't as plugged in as you

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Speaker 1: or me or all the people listening to us are

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Speaker 1: right now, and they're going to tune into Fox News

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Speaker 1: and they're not gonna have heard a lot of these

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Speaker 1: guys talk before, and I think they're gonna be impressed

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Speaker 1: by the day. And then Vivek's gonna have an interesting

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Speaker 1: decision to make. Maybe he already has to make. Is

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Speaker 1: he running to win or is he running to be VP.

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Speaker 2: We'll think about it this way. Even if he's running

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Speaker 2: to be VP under Trump, and let's say that ticket wins,

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Speaker 2: who's on the launch pad for twenty twenty eight right away?

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Speaker 2: So true, if he's willing to play the long game,

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Speaker 2: a guy who's worth that much money, I think self

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Speaker 2: Made is the long game. Is he's VP this round,

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Speaker 2: he goes for president the next time.

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Speaker 5: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of

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Speaker 5: truth