1 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: in Heels. The show is all about celebrating extraordinary superwomen 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: who will be sharing their incredible journeys to the top, 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: all while staying glamorous. Other than fashion, beauty is a 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: topic that I can get so many questions on, whether 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: it's from social media or interviews or meeting people in 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: real life. You guys definitely have questions about skincare and 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: makeup and everything in between. Last week I asked you 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: guys to submit your beauty questions for me to answer 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: on the podcast, and here to help me is my 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: amazing producer and have blood sister everything else, Mary Elizabeth. 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: You all know her at this point. So let's see 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: what you guys are needing to know and see if 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: I can answer your questions. So let's do it. Well, 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: let's just jump right into it, shall we yep? 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 2: Okay, starting with skincare, which we all know, very very hot, 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: popular topic, A lot of a lot of products out there, 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: a lot of information out there about skincare, so we 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: got this question multiple times. So I had to go first, 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: what steps are in your everyday skincare routine? So what 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: are you doing morning or night? But what are your 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: must do steps? 23 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: So it's a loaded question. It's a loaded question because 24 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: I have realized over the last ten to fifteen years 25 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: how much my son worshiping for my entire tween to 26 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: twenty something life has damaged, you know, my skin, right. 27 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: But I will also say that I've now lived in 28 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: la for twenty years, which is one of the driest 29 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: places to live in the United States for sure, and 30 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: the amount of hydration that I can put on my 31 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: skin throughout the day is it's almost it doesn't matter, 32 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: like I don't think. 33 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: Their limit doesn't exist. 34 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: Yes, it's like when I'm in Florida, right, it's totally different. 35 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: And so I would say to that that while I 36 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: am here, I cannot live morning and night and sometimes 37 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: throughout the day there is I literally open my eyes 38 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: in the morning and I put pylanic serum on my 39 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: face and maybe a vitamin C serum over that. I 40 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: use Barbara Storm typically. Yes, that is very expensive. There 41 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: are so many that are not Cora organics. I'm obsessed with. 42 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: I use a beauty fora clean beauty. I use a 43 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: lot of onest products, honest beauty as well. Which is 44 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: very affordable, and I think you know to that, I 45 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: would say I use a lot of serums without question. 46 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: I use high serums, I use vitem C serrums, I 47 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: use Nia Sinzerum B serrums, as many serums as I 48 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: can put on. They actually work, They actually really I 49 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: have found they really work. I then one of my 50 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: favorite moisturizers that I'm now on my like tenth bottle 51 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: of is You Beauty, her one particular product, and they're 52 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: all amazing. The arm sculpt, the body sculpt of this 53 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: that they're all amazing, the resurfacing compound, amazing, the You Beauty. 54 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: I want to say it's called super Hydrator. It's one 55 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: of the best moisturizers I've used, and that is because 56 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: it genuinely feels like a shield. Yeah, and it keeps 57 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: my skin hydrated all day. Yeah, And it gives you 58 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: that kind of like doiness and it just really works. 59 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: And I love it. I really do love it, and 60 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: I really would swear by it because I've now tried 61 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: a million different hydrators. Moist stretches is absolutely one of 62 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: my favorite, especially for day. And then I also love SHAWNE. 63 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: Darden's products are amazingly effecting. Yeah, they really work, hurt, 64 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: they really really work. And again this is what I'll 65 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: say about beauty. There are a lot of products that 66 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: cost a lot of money, and there are a lot 67 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: of products that are not worth the money, and a 68 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: lot of products that you need very very little to apply, 69 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: literally like a dime, and that investment will last a 70 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: long time. Now, everyone has their budget of what they 71 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: can spend within recent but I would say some products 72 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: are worth it and some are not. But I would 73 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: also say that there are so many that are you 74 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: can buy in drug stores and things like that that 75 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: are affordable, that are incredible. And I also want to 76 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: say that there are cheap products we can get into 77 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: that later, not cheat, but like ones that I use 78 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: on my children, that I use on myself, that like ourselves, 79 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: that are like incredible that you can put everywhere. So 80 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: we can get into that. 81 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: And when are you cleansing your skin, because, like like 82 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: you said, being in California, it's so dry here I was. 83 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: I was cleansing morning and night, and finally I was like, 84 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: my skin can't handle this being stripped twice, so I 85 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: only cleanse in the evening and then like sort of 86 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: water wash in the morning because it's too drying for me. 87 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: And even when I use a cleanser, so it would 88 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: be at night, and even when I do that, it's 89 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: light and it's a hydrating cleanser. I use a cleanser 90 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: like an enzyme cleanser from Barber stm or I use 91 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: a cleanser from Core Organic. It's my favorite. One is 92 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: the Tumeric. There's a trot Act finger cleanser. I have 93 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: a lighter one, one that's just for face, and then 94 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: one that works almost like a mask, and I use 95 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: it in the shower every single time I shower because 96 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: it's very gentle and it's like you can leave it 97 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: on while you wash your hair and stuff. And I 98 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: love that product. I really do, as it pertains to 99 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: clean beauty in general, beauty products, especially for face. I 100 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: really love Cora Organics. I love it. I'm so impressed 101 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: with how it works, honestly, But I do cleanse mostly 102 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: at night, not during the day, because then I use 103 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: an even heavier like sometimes I'll put like a there's 104 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: a Kora night mask that you can sleep in, yes, 105 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: because you can get away with things while you're sleeping 106 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: that you can't put on during the day. 107 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, too heavy, too too heavy. Yeah. 108 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: Fresh makes a really good overnight mask that's good for 109 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: like tightening, and it feels really good. But again, you 110 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: can't put that on in the morning and then hold 111 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: makeup over it. You're just gonna look like the makeup 112 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: slatting off your face. 113 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm also going to say something that's a big beauty 114 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: no no, but I really stand by it because I'm 115 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: always in a hurry. I use makeup wipes as a 116 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: cheat all the time. I do, and I'll just use 117 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: ones that are hydrating and not stripping. And to be honest, 118 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: my favorite makeup wipes are Honest wipes, the pink I 119 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: think they're pink. The makeup remover wipes. I use them 120 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: like crazy. They're super gentle. I even use them on 121 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: my kids. Yeah, because I always have to remove things 122 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: off their faces, so I use those a lot. 123 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are great too. Okay. 124 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: We had a lot of listeners ask about under eyebags, 125 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: lots of different questions about that. 126 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: The age old, the age old. What do you do 127 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: to reduce the appearance of under eyebags? 128 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, so I've been I've been blessed 129 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: in my family. I will say this. My sister got 130 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: it worse than me. She genetically has my dads which 131 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: are like huffy yeah, and mine are not. They're there, 132 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: but it's it's different. I can cover mine, they're not. 133 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: They're not polarizing under my eyes, right, So I think 134 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: some of it is genetics and really hard to completely 135 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: make disappear. 136 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 137 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: I have learned that over the years because I've many 138 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: friends that you know and listen, I'm just gonna be 139 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: very honest. I think at a certain age and I 140 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: and I have not done it, but I will do 141 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: it at some point. Products can't help, right, Like I 142 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: think you There's only so much products can do, right. 143 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: There are some incredible depuffing products. There are things that 144 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: can help under ie I swear and live by under 145 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: eye masks. I love them. I love the Wander Beauty 146 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: ones I think are incredible. I love the one one 147 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: One's skin everything, the one one one skin face masks, 148 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: especially the black diamond line on believable, and the imask. 149 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: I will not do an appearance without using imasks. I 150 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: will not because they actually really do help. In terms 151 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: of covering under eye bags. There's a lot of things 152 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: you can do it is an art form and you 153 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: honestly should watch YouTube or TikTok and watch the makeup 154 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: experts do it because there is an art to it. 155 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: Ones that we as civilians not make, our artists cannot 156 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: fully do. But I think the ones that all of 157 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: us that have little ones. The trick is you want 158 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: to use a concealer that certainly has coverage, right, like 159 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: a medium at least. I will definitely say that stick coverage. 160 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Stick covers, while thick, and I would recommend using them 161 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: with an I cream, really work better. They don't slip 162 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: right off right. More liquid ones are for younger people 163 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: that don't need so much coverage because they're thinner, you know. 164 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: But I love the sh Charlotte Tillbury one. I love 165 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: the makeup by Mario Ones. The key is to use 166 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: ones that may have a little bit of orange or 167 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of peach, a little bit of red. Right. 168 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: So there are makeup artists that will literally put pigment 169 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: if you have very dark circles. 170 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 4: Right, counter act color correct the color correct, and then 171 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: apply a lighter one shade lighter, at least one shade 172 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 4: lighter than your foundation. 173 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: Right. 174 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: That is the key that I've learned is to not 175 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: use the same don't match your concealer to your foundation, right. 176 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: It should be it should be a shade lighter. 177 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: It should be a shade lighter. Yeah, yes, And you 178 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: don't want that under eye thing that is super dry 179 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: and cracky, because that's so gross. So you want to 180 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: always have it be like a hydrating under eye, and 181 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: then you can always put a little translucent powder over 182 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: it to set it. But it's definitely one of the 183 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: tricks that I've learned from up artists over the years, 184 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: because that was a huge thing. I was trying to 185 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: match my kids with my foundation because that's what one 186 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: would think, right, Yeah, of course, yeah, but no skin 187 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: is doing your skin is I have to tell you 188 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: it's an art form. It really is. As you get older, 189 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: if you're someone listen, there's also people that barely wear makeup, right. 190 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: I have friends that are the same age as me 191 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: that were maybe they wear a concealer, maybe they wear 192 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: the lightest foundation. I'm someone that loves makeup, so I 193 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: like the contour, I like the skin different dimension and 194 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: I like that. So yeah, it just is an art form. 195 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 3: It truly is. But I would. 196 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: Recommend, honestly watching the experts on your eye because it's 197 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: complex in that you have to know your skin colors 198 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: right and your tones and your colors because for the 199 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: longest time I didn't know what my skin tone was. 200 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm olive. But meanwhile, I so much yellow, 201 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: so that makes different color to correct under like black 202 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: and blue. 203 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, like a color consultation is like. 204 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: It is a first I recommend that I really do 205 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: recomment and now you can actually do it online and 206 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: you can also do it like on Sephora and Alta 207 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: and some of the like better like cosmetic brands will 208 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: literally scan you and tell you and. 209 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: It should avoid and what you should do is, yeah, 210 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: do do you ever do I don't think I've ever 211 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: seen you do this, so maybe you don't, but maybe 212 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: you do. 213 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 214 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: Do you ever do the ice rolling to deep puff 215 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: or to like help with bags? 216 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: Yes, but the answer is no because I hate the shock. 217 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: But I will say this, I from the age of 218 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: probably thirteen, I would before school put metal spoons in 219 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: the freezer on ice and hold metal spoons on my 220 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: eyes because I always puffy eyes. You know this. I 221 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: have super sensitive eyes, so I don't get big black circles, 222 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: but I do get very puffy eyes. I'm allergic to feathers, 223 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: weird pillows. Like, yeah, you know, so I've been a 224 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: deep puffer for. 225 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: You're a depuffer. I love that. 226 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so the cold spoons are an amazing quick fix. 227 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: And then when the whole cucumber thing came out, I 228 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: tried that too. 229 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the cucumber thing. 230 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: Cold cold alo leaves also, I love that. Very small, 231 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: it's very but I think those are really good tricks 232 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: to know at home that like, you don't need money 233 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: to do these things, like my hollow plant, you know, 234 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:45,479 Speaker 1: and just take some leaves and like, yeah, I'm the cucumbers. 235 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: Cold cucumbers Like that really does work. It's sometimes people 236 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: will say, like tea bags work so fixes. I love them. 237 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: I love that at home homeopathic one. Yeah, cold really 238 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: does work. 239 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah if you yeah again, but if you don't like 240 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: the shock might not be. 241 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: Really I don't love the cold roller. I'm you will 242 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: never find me doing a cold plunge. I'm here to 243 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: say that. 244 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think there's enough money to pay you 245 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 2: to get you to do a cold plunge. 246 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: That's I mean, I'm the coldest personalize that is the world. 247 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: And I watch people do it. My whole body quivers. Yeah, 248 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: it's a thing, it's a trend, it's a thing. 249 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: It really is. 250 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: Okay, next question, what do you find effective for helping 251 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: with volume loss in your face and in your neck? 252 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: Well, let's see. I'm going to say people listen. I mean, 253 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: I am here to say do the natural thing. As 254 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: long as you can go the product route, use the rollers. 255 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: I will say my Lima laser has changed my life. 256 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: I am here to say that the Lima laser is 257 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: one of the things that I have seen to be 258 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: the the most effective thing you could ever do at home. 259 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: It is incredibly expensive, so I'm not here to say 260 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: it's affordable, but I am here to say that if 261 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: you're spending so much money on crazy products that cost 262 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: almost one thousand dollars or like at home. 263 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: Things, crazy treatments, crazy treatments that you're going to these 264 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: facials are getting so expensive. 265 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that the Lima laser is incredibly helpful. 266 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: It stimulates your collagen. If you use it even five 267 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes per day while you're on calls, before 268 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: you go to sleep, it's incredible. But yeah, and so 269 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: here's what I'll say, there are the most incredible topical 270 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: things that you can do for volume loss. They have 271 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: developed the most incredible laser treatments and micro micro needling 272 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: like Certunza and god it's called like ALTHEA or oh 273 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: my god, there's so many like that has that are 274 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: non invasive. 275 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: It's not Alma lasers all my I want to see 276 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: one of those. 277 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: That's really great too. 278 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: And they're incredible, but I will say they're they're not inexpensive. 279 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: So here's what I'll say, Do everything topical, right, Do 280 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: the micro needling, do the lasering, the portenza, because it 281 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: helps the quality of your skin. It literally tricks yourselves 282 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: to regenerate and rebuild and rebuild collagen. So like these 283 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: these developments are unbelievable to avoid having to do injectibles right, 284 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: but it also at a certain point, botox and different 285 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: fillers and the like are really game changing. When they work, 286 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: they work. Yeah, they you know what I will say 287 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: to that, though, you know, let's and it's a very 288 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: long beauty episode that I would get into about my 289 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: feelings about it, because I don't I am against doing 290 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: these things at a very young age. 291 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: Yes I am. 292 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm here to say if I had a daughter that 293 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: was that was asking me to do sorts of fillers 294 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: and treatments in her teens, I would be very upset. 295 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 296 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's a different conversation you and I sitting here 297 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: talking about any sort of injectable because we are of 298 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: an age where that makes sense for our skin, and 299 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: so I totally get what you're saying. We're not advocating 300 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: for young women or men to be doing this at all. 301 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: We want now, Yes, you should enjoy your youth and 302 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: your elastic skin and your. 303 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: And your natural ologen and ologen yees. 304 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: And so there's options for volume loss. You just got 305 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: to figure out what's right for you and what you 306 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: know makes sense. 307 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: I would say that if you're young, like, there's so 308 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: much available now to start doing to nurture and keep 309 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: your collagen levels, like your collagen strong, right right, I 310 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: think that like twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, 311 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: like we didn't there's really drinking collagen powders, and now 312 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: you know all of these things that are so good 313 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: for not just your skin, but your whole body and yourselves. 314 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: So you know, I would say do as much as 315 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: you can. Now. 316 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a good segue because the next question 317 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: we got several times was what body lotion or serum 318 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: do you. 319 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: Like to use. 320 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: I am very as I said, like, there are a 321 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: handful of brands that I use on face and body 322 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: because they do do both, like Barberstorm, like Shawnie Darden, 323 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: like You Beauty. I love the super Body Hydrator and 324 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: arm sculpt by You Beauty. I love Honest Body. I 325 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: loved Honest body cream and body oils. I love Core Organics. 326 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: I use the body scrub in the shower. I use 327 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: the body oil. I love One One One Skin has 328 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: this incredible pink. The bottles pink. I'm seeing it in 329 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: my head of the body oil. I love those. I 330 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: love body oil. I use body oil. I use body 331 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: scrubs and body oils more than I use body creams 332 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: and lotions. And that goes back to our cold thing. Yes, 333 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: And what's really funny about that is I have been putting, 334 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: as my sister says, lotions and potions on my children 335 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: since the day they were born. Yes, and as you know, Mary, 336 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: there for a lot of that. They would come out 337 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: of the shower and I would literally drench them head 338 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: to toe and Colendula Arnica Egyptian magic, like I could 339 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: not think of the name. 340 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: It was magic magic. 341 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: That's an incredible product for moms. 342 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's by the way, I use Egyptian magic now, 343 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: Like it's just this incredible magical solve that works on 344 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: everything everywhere, phased, dry patch, roseatia, dermatitis, like anything, very 345 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: gentle any. Also, colendula is a magical ingredient. The California 346 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: Baby Colendula also healed everything on my boy's skin. Right, 347 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: I would say now that Skylar battles, you know, exima 348 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: flares here and there. He's outgrown it for the most part, 349 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: but he is really sensitive skin. Right, But so I 350 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: would say that that's the kind of stuff is on 351 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: my body and we use in our whole family. Is 352 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: like Egyptian magics and very clean body oils and Sierra 353 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: they're the best. 354 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that. Good takeaway. Okay, let's move to makeup. 355 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: You actually already answered the first question, I think, unless 356 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: there's another one, but it said, what's the best makeup 357 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: trick a renowned makeup artist has taught you, which would 358 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: probably be the concealer trick? But is there anything else 359 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: that you've learned. 360 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 3: From like. 361 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: Contour? Okay, contour is like who taught you that was it? 362 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: Like Charlotte Tilbury, Charlotte Listen. Charlotte Tilbury was the original 363 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: teacher for me for everything because she did all of 364 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: my fashion shows for most of the time that I 365 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: was doing fashion shows, and she did it. And then 366 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Kate Lee is another makeup artist that I've worked with 367 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: so much over the years. Gillian Dempsey. A lot of 368 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: makeup artists that I've had the privilege of working with 369 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: for so many years taught me, you know, tricks of 370 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: the trade. Ashley who does my makeup, who just went 371 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: and had a baby less and Emma Willis here in 372 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: La have taught me the every day, the everyday woman's 373 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: trick to contouring and that has changed my life. 374 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: Oh, I would love to hear that. 375 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: I would also say that one of my absolute favorite 376 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: contour Contour brands that I've gotten that I also have 377 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: not mentioned, but now that we're talking about makeup, I 378 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: love Victoria Beckham's makeup. I love her Contour. I'm now 379 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: only a fifth one and it's a stick, which is 380 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: why I like it. It looks like it would be 381 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: a thin lipstick, right, So it's just a roll up. 382 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: It's easy, and I like it because you can be 383 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: precise with it. I have other ones that I love, 384 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: but they're much thicker. And I actually like this one 385 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: because you can do two lines on your nose. You 386 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: can do the line around your face. You literally draw 387 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: on your face like a crayon. You like a crayon, 388 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: and it's like a chocolate brown crayon. And I put 389 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: two lines, one on my each side of my nose, 390 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: blended out round the line of my forehead, blend it 391 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: up into my hair in the right under my cheek bones. 392 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: Yep. 393 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: And my kids love when I do it. They think 394 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: it's the funniest thing when they see me do it 395 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: because I literally drawl over my face and then around 396 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: your jawline and then you blend it, and you blend 397 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: it like super easy, so it doesn't look super contoured, 398 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: but it immediately like shadows in places that you want 399 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: it to. 400 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: That's great. 401 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So that would definitely be my best makeup. 402 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: And I love that, you know, just like the Queen 403 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: of all Everything, Charlotte Tilbury taught you that catual. 404 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, she really is the Queen. I mean, she lives, 405 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: she what. 406 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: She and she's a character. 407 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: She's so much energy, it's so funny. It's the Queen Bubbly. 408 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a legend. 409 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: Okay, moving on, what are some of your favorite eyeliners? 410 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: Right now? I would say, oh my god, I did 411 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: not you know why, because we're just talking about makeup now, 412 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: How did I not talk about this? I'm obsessed with 413 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: rare beauty, Selena. I love Selena Gomez's line and again 414 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: a clean beauty line. And I'm just gonna say it 415 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: here now. I am the first one that's skeptical about 416 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: clean beauty in terms of makeup and sort of how 417 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: it's one thing with skincare. Makeup is a different thing. Makeup. 418 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: For me, the beginning eras of clean beauty were not 419 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: effective in terms of makeup. They just didn't stay on, 420 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: they didn't apply as well, and they expired really quickly. 421 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: So I would say in terms of makeup, my tried 422 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: and true favorites that are in my makeup bag are 423 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: literally good us men. Wesmin Attilie also another brilliant makeup artist, 424 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: and hers is clean. Her foundation sticks are game changing. 425 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: Her products are incredible. I love Merit to Beauty also 426 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: has an amazing contour, bronzing kind of stick that I 427 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: love that I love. I love Merit eyebrowgel, yeah so good. 428 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: I love Merit mascara. I love rare beauty eyeliner. I 429 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: and now I'm like, my tense rare beauty, what liquid eyeliner? 430 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I was gonna say, what shade do you like? 431 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: Because okay, I now in my thirties, have maybe mid 432 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: to late thirties, you know, maybe later than mid. I 433 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: notice that when I do a black like a like 434 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: a true black. 435 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Eyeliner, I go, emmy, oh my god, you look so major. 436 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: But I always feel like I look older. 437 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: Than when I use like a brown, brown one. 438 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: More neutral tonal color. 439 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so what is your takeaway from black? Okay, it's black. 440 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: To me, I'm like, oh my god, it's my mother. 441 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 3: I love. 442 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: Black is intense. Black is intense. I think to answer 443 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: that black is great for night when you want more 444 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: of an eye and you're going to be in darker lighting. Sure, 445 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: brown and every shade of brown. I have every shade 446 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: of Victoria Bacam eyeliner. They go on like frosting they're 447 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: literally like velvet. 448 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: Beautiful colors too. 449 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: The colors are gorgeous, they smudge really well. I love 450 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: her shades of brown. I wear them every day. I 451 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: love Mario's makeup by Mario. It's what's Mario beauty Maria, 452 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: It's makeup by Maria. I use his eyeliners. I love them. 453 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: And again, I think for day and everyday life, browns 454 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: are great, and I think even if you're not comfortable 455 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: with black, then do just a deeper chocolate brown and 456 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: smudge it out at night. But I love eyeliner. It's 457 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: part of my five minute routine. I love it. I 458 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: think it's because I have like yellow green eyes, and 459 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I think I was taught when I was young, like honey, 460 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: you have to wear liner, like it just pulls out 461 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: the yellow, right. I don't know, So I just I 462 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: just feel naked without eyeliner and mascara. So it's right. 463 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: But on the natural day you smudge it, it's not 464 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: as severe, you know. 465 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I love a liquid liner, but again, 466 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: it's like that would be for nighttime, because if I 467 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: were during the day, I feel like I'm wearing a 468 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: mask of my mom, but a brown eyeliner is is 469 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: hard like a brown liquid. 470 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: I would say, is more tricky, Like I would say, yeah. 471 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: They're power, They're like a cream powder. 472 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would do. I don't know again, like Merit 473 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: Victoria Beckham eyeliner, so good, so good, but I've got 474 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: to try. I'm obsessed with I'm obsessed with it. I 475 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: really am rare beauty. I mean those are like tried 476 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: and true right now, I'm obsessed. The one last thing 477 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: I would say to just touch on Charlotte Tillbury, her 478 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: color chameleon. I want to say, they're called the sticks. 479 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: I love those things. 480 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: The black diamond or the amber haze, or the emeralds 481 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: green like the emerald whatever, smoky courts. They're all amazing. 482 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: And those are like all in one. Her makeup is expensive. 483 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: But what I would say to that is it's an 484 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: all in one so you can use it as a liner, 485 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: you can smudge it and use it as a shadow. 486 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: So I like things that are multi functional, oh for sure. 487 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they I feel my Charlotte is six will 488 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: last me a long time. Like it's it's a good, 489 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: you know, cost per use situation, because because it just 490 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 2: a little goes a long way and you can use 491 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 2: it for a very, very long time, which is one 492 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: of the reasons. 493 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: I love her stuff. 494 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: Okay, speaking about liners, do you use liip liner or 495 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: just lipstick? And is it still a thing for us 496 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: to be overlining our lips? 497 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: No? 498 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: No, don't over line? Well, that depends. 499 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never successfully overlined my lips. I look like 500 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: an absolute clown. I've never successfully been able. 501 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: To do that. 502 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: But I've been fortunate in my life to have full lips. 503 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: My mother gave them to me. 504 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: Yes, you do. 505 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: I have full lips. So I am not someone who 506 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: loves to overdraw. I will draw to even out because 507 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: everyone has one side that's like lower, so I will 508 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: draw to to to even it out. But also you 509 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: can go a little under to just even so I'm 510 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: okay with like a millimeter, But don't underline it because 511 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: that's not good either, right, so you have to go 512 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: a little outside the line. Okay, you do. But again, 513 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: these are great things to watch like an expert do 514 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 1: on YouTube or TikTok or Instagram because all of the 515 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: best makeup artists like Mary Phillips and Hang vong Go 516 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: and Gucci Westman and Telbrady, they do these tutorials day 517 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: in and day out on social so it's so easy 518 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: to see how to do it properly, because not done properly, 519 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: it's no way now. So what I would say to 520 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: that is I do wear lipliner, and I wear it 521 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: because I think it stays on better. 522 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 3: When I line it. 523 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: In the nineties, I only wore lipliner in the early 524 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: two thousand, I probably only wore lipliner with like a 525 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: little lip bomb over it. And I will say this, 526 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: it never came off. I never had to reapply throughout 527 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: the night. So there are and now that nineties makeup 528 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: is back, like people are literally doing that again, right, 529 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: the browns are coming back, the brownliplaning. I can't bear 530 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: a Matte lip a Matt anything. I will not do Matt. 531 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't care if the nineties are back. I was 532 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: there the first time, so I don't have to do 533 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: it now. I don't do Matt. I think Matt at 534 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: a certain age makes you look older because your skin 535 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: looks so dry. I like fresh, dewy skin. I like 536 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of achine. I like a little bit 537 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: of a highlight on the cheek. I won't leave home 538 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: without it. I even care what the trends are. So 539 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: my approach in general to makeup is the same as 540 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: it is to clothing. You have to do what works 541 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: for you. You cannot be a victim of trend with makeup. 542 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: You take the trend and you apply it to your 543 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: life and your skin and your age and what works 544 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: best for you. I will always have hydrated skin. Dry 545 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: skin makes you look older. It just does. And I'm 546 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: here to say that. I'm not an expert, but I'm 547 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: here to say that. So makeup gets stuck in the 548 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: cracks and your lips are cracked and everything else. So 549 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: I apply serums throughout the day. I apply hydrating products 550 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: on top of my makeup. I don't know if you're 551 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: allowed to do that, but I do it. 552 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: You do it, you break all the beauty rules I do. 553 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: But I would say this, I have found what looks 554 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: more natural on me is when I have flying my 555 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: lip color, which is always a hydrated lip color, usually 556 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: a like a wine plum berry of sorts, and then 557 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: I'll actually apply the liner afterwards. That's interesting. It looks 558 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: better for me to just add more pigment and kind 559 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: of just. 560 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: Where you're unevel, almost like trap it it's like you're 561 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: wrapping it, right. 562 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I like that. 563 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it's like I'm stealing it and shaping it. 564 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: Okay, clever. I like that tip. 565 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to try that, okay. Moving to hair, A 566 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: lot of hair questions for you. My personal favorite one 567 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: would be, would you ever dye your hair another color? 568 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 569 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: No, the blonde. I am blonde for life. I also 570 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: go various shades of blonde, brightness, slighter, like sometimes I'll 571 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: look back. I just look back at a picture from 572 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: August and I was like, Jesus, I should never be 573 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: that blonde. I've looked at pictures when. 574 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: Your skin gets a little more tan too. Yeah, I 575 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: always say I go very like full Cogan. 576 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 577 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: In the summer, it's not great. I gotta yeah, I'll 578 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: back the blonde. 579 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so I like to be warmer when I'm tanner, 580 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: but no, I won't. My kids are dying for me 581 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: to be brunette because they want me to match them. 582 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's so funny. They want to like, 583 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: they want me to match them. 584 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: But if you are listening and you're curious about what 585 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: Rachel looks like with darker hair, just scroll back on 586 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: her Instagram and you'll see some of the throwback photos 587 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: she's done, and she's gorgeous. 588 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: In her I look like Kaius. You look just like Pious. 589 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're you're twins. 590 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: Another question that was a favorite of mine was do 591 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: you ever style your hair back or off of your face? 592 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: The answer is no, I haven't for a long time, 593 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: and I think I have to start to like negotiate 594 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: that with myself. 595 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: Because it's so chic when you do. 596 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: I just I don't know, it's like you know, And 597 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: I've talked about this a lot. I think my hair 598 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: is emotional for me. It's like a psychological thing. It's 599 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: it's a security blanket, it's a curtain, it's a it's 600 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: a it's a comfort. It's easy. I don't cut it. 601 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: I barely style it. Yeah, I watched it twice a week. 602 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: It's just part of my like being. And so I 603 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: think wearing it up would almost feel like I was 604 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: walking into a ballroom with no clothes on. Yeah, And 605 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: so I have to sort of work through that, I 606 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: think at some point. So I think the last picture 607 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: I saw of me up with my hair up was pregnant, 608 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: like the Golden globes. 609 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: You had like a was it like a high pony? Like? 610 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: People will post it when we post this episode. 611 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna get We're gonna give the people what 612 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: they want. Dark hair and pulled back. 613 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll pull some photos. So fine. 614 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 3: Rachel's not a fan of half up, half down. I will. 615 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: I know it's very sixth grade to me. 616 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: Oh got it, got it. One other question, we got 617 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: quite a lot. My hair is very very. 618 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: Dry, and I'm wondering what kind of leave in treatments 619 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: you like to use. There are so many good ones. Yeah, 620 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: I will say. What I'm completely obsessed with right now 621 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: is K eighteen. K eighteen is basically it's a product 622 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: that came out within the last like two to three years, 623 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: I want to say, but now they've expanded the line 624 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: and it starts with a leave in treatment mask that 625 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: you put on and you literally don't rint it out, 626 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 1: but it's literally like it's like a bio cellular scientific 627 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: thing that like it's very very healing for your hair, 628 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: and it's it really is effective. It's called K eighteen, 629 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: and I love it. There are some Oliplex products that 630 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: I have found to be very effective as well. But 631 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: Katine is definitely what I've been really using religiously over 632 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: the last like since the summer I started using it. 633 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 3: That's great. 634 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And since we talked about clean beauty just in 635 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: skincare and make up, what are your favorite clean beauty 636 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 2: hair products? 637 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: For Kai? I love? 638 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: I really still amazing too. 639 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: It smells amazing. And I also, like, you know, I've 640 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: known Frederick Fakai for many, many years, and when he 641 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: launched his clean Vegan line of hair products, he was 642 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: so passionate. He worked so long on it, and I 643 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: remember the first time I tried it, and I have 644 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: to say, like, I love all the shampoos and conditioners. 645 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: I love the leaven hair treatments. It is so so 646 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: good and it smells so good and it works, It 647 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: really really works. He's got lines for color. I really 648 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: really love it. I use it religiously. And what's great 649 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: is like my kids use all of these products, so 650 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to hair and skin and body, Like, 651 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: I love the fact that what's in my shower they 652 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: can use, like you know, because they use my shower 653 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: a lot, So it's nice that I ended up like, wait, 654 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: I got to get kid products in there. 655 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 3: And like I don't use that. 656 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's been that's been amazing. 657 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 3: Okay, I love that. 658 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 5: And we got a lot of questions about the beauty 659 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 5: products or the pharmacies in Paris. So if you had 660 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 5: to do a supermarket sweep, you've got like a minute 661 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 5: to grab products from like a French beauty supply or pharmacy. 662 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 3: What are you grabbing? 663 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: God? Oh my god, there's so many good ones. Claudalali 664 00:37:53,520 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: uh huh, rock Roc Yep, been around forever, my's favorite 665 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: lip bomb. She makes me bring ten of them back 666 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: every time I go. Now you can get them here, 667 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 1: Claude Depot anything yep, and every amazing products. Yeah, there's 668 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: probably so many I'm not thinking of. I just French 669 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: pharmacy and in just hours I stand there. I know hours. 670 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 3: It's like a wonderland. 671 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: It is if French pharmacies are a wonderland. There is 672 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: a new product. I actually posted it on my social 673 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: over the weekend. It's this incredible solve. It's calledte likeet 674 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: bo bo you and j like eut, but it's like 675 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: bouget or something. Anyway, it comes in a little pot okay, 676 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: and it's like almost it's a solid, but you can 677 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: make it almost a little more liquidy. And it's literally 678 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: works like a French, totally clean Egyptian magic. It's a 679 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: solve love that your lips, your face, your elbows, anywhere 680 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 1: that needs hydration, and I love it and it's French 681 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: and it's amazing. 682 00:38:59,040 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 3: I mean everything. 683 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: Yes, well, thank you so much Rachel for answering all 684 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 2: of these beauty questions. 685 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 5: Guys, stay out of the Yes, we're are your SPF guys. 686 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: But here's what I'll say, enjoy your life. I like 687 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: a little real sun, just with some block lett raised 688 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: in let, the vitamin d N. 689 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, all right, everybody, protect your skin. We'll talk 690 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 3: to you guys soon. 691 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: All right, guys, that was so much fun. I could 692 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: talk about beauty for days and days and days. So 693 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: if you like this beauty talk, let us know because 694 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: I'll just keep doing them because there's never things that 695 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: we run out of talking about when it comes to beauty. 696 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: So thank you so much for asking all these amazing questions. 697 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: I promised to answer more on our next one. And 698 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: thank you always for listening to Climbing and Heels. Don't 699 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: forget to write or read. 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