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Speaker 2: We hope you enjoy these, enjoy doing them. Yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's also the day after Saint Patrick's Day, so I'm

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Speaker 2: sure white people wore that fucking dilly dilly shit out

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Speaker 2: all day yesterday. That's stupid ass commercial for beer and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, white people have only made two slang turns that

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Speaker 2: So anyway, guys, we got all kinds of stuff to

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Speaker 2: Charleston shooter Dylan Ruth's sister Morgan to pro said to

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Speaker 1: Right, even though all children are upset, but white children upset.

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Speaker 2: Come at me. So you think it's because if it

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Speaker 2: When are you gonna forgive the shot up your school?

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Speaker 2: Right? I noticed you's look a little upset that you

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Speaker 2: It was a boat, Come out me bring it.

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Speaker 1: It was a boat. That's all like I came, my

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Speaker 2: I'm putting on Conda, so y'all do what y'all want

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Speaker 2: in this. I'm putting people I'm writing with Kanda right

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Speaker 2: Sterla k Brown call me uh in jobu. Now that's

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Speaker 2: what we're doing. A teacher apologists are accidentally firing a

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Speaker 2: the teacher's guns right. They can't even it was a

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Speaker 1: A gun safety class.

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Speaker 2: Now, Alabama sheriff took seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: You goddamn about them brown people and the few all

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Speaker 1: But I popped flavor and I dripped South.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Apparently a sheriffon Alabama took home a personal profit

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Speaker 1: Everybody get the green rice.

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Speaker 2: It's perfectly legal in Alabama. According to state law and

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Speaker 1: Why is this a law?

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Speaker 2: Shares across the state take excess money as personal income

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Speaker 2: So what we're gonna have to do is you're gonna

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Speaker 1: That's white supremacy through the fullers. You should not be

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Speaker 2: You got capitalized capitalism, Why.

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Speaker 1: You get to take us your own personal income house way,

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Speaker 2: I know they buy all they should invoked, go down

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Speaker 2: the Sands club, get the inmates some cans of food. No,

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Speaker 1: They probably get paid, I mean they probably eat one

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Speaker 2: So yep, and it's already rolled into the law.

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Speaker 2: How many times do they having short follows my question?

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Speaker 1: And they don't make them COVID with the dear friends today.

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Speaker 2: In Alabama, sheriffs are personally responsible for feeding inmates in

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Speaker 2: For state inmates, it's less than two dollars per inmate

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Speaker 1: That's no food.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: What is even less than two dollars a day worth

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Speaker 1: Come on?

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Speaker 2: What the fuck is a meal? A bean right. I

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Speaker 1: Keep it right. And then you have a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: like their non existent act, like they don't got family

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Speaker 2: I agree, as always comes back to the same point.

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Speaker 1: But that's all of it is a modern day form

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Speaker 2: In two thousand and nine, then Sheriff Greg Bartlet of

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Speaker 2: Bartley used charitable donations and special deals, as CBS put it,

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Speaker 2: He defended himself by noting that his profit was legal

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Speaker 2: The story made national headlines. At Bartlet degree to no

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Speaker 1: No more you feeding him corn dollars twice a day dollar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he bought it off a truck and split

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Speaker 2: it with another shaf twenty fifteen, the sheriff in Morgan

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Speaker 2: privatize the shit and we still run it like a

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Speaker 1: Right, Like I said, maybe it's not ignorance. I cannot

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Speaker 2: All right, the Senate just quick quietly passed the biggest

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Speaker 1: No shit. I didn't know this, but I'm saying no

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Speaker 1: They're getting ready to bring a lot of shit back

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Speaker 1: that actually tank the economy. All that shit's gonna come back.

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Speaker 1: These laws are there for a reason.

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Speaker 2: These laws are there.

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Speaker 1: Off are there for consumer protection, and they're stripping away

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Speaker 1: trickle down. This trickle down economics is some bullshit. Money

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 2: We knew this was coming. Republicans have wanted this for

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Speaker 2: his ilk would absolutely be like, this is what the

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Speaker 1: And regardless of if the people want it. You know,

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Speaker 2: Despite pushback from Warning and other Democrats, the bill easily

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Speaker 1: Right, so it's about to pass completing on part of

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Speaker 2: Yep, the bill increased risk in the financial system and

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's little moderate Democrats, particularly those running for re election

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, jumped on board to get the measure through

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Speaker 2: You know, this is that thing where I'll tell people,

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Speaker 2: we don't live in this Your social media might be

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Speaker 2: They they don't have the fucking political confidence to be like, no,

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Speaker 2: the ground. You know what I mean, like, what point,

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Speaker 2: what reason does a guy who barely got elected over

441
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: the Republican in your state have to come out and

442
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: be like, well, actually, I'm the most progressive of all

443
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: progressive people, progressive ass people. What reason are we giving them?

444
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't see a reason like

445
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: I saw Bill Maher did another one, and those like

446
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: Democrats don't have the balls to do this, that and

447
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: the other I said America don't have the balls to

448
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: do that because you know, there are Democrats who do

449
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: talk a good game like that, but they're all in

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Speaker 2: cities and states where they feel like that people have

451
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Speaker 2: their back, correct. That's why people talk like that, you know.

452
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Speaker 2: That's why you have politicians that come from like super

453
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Speaker 2: black districts be the main ones to be like nah,

454
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 2: fuck that shit, you know, But if they was in

455
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: the middle of bumfuck Ohio, they'd be like, uh yeah,

456
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I hope, I mean, I don't

457
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: you know. That's how it happens. So, you know, it's like,

458
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: it's easy to be progressive online and ship. But these

459
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: are the costs of of the purity politics, the cost

460
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: of right. Both sides are the same coin and Most importantly,

461
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 2: it was the cost of Obama just being a black man.

462
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: White people just could not handle that kind of adjustment

463
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: to the system. I saw another article this morning. I'm

464
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 2: not gonna read on the show, but it was what

465
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 2: about the white people that feel left behind? It was

466
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Speaker 2: a white girl standing in front of a Confederate flag,

467
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: and I said, what why? How many of these are

468
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Speaker 2: we gonna write?

469
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Speaker 1: Right? We've been writing this since the motherfucker got elected.

470
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Speaker 1: What are we talking about here?

471
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Speaker 2: How many of these do we have? The right guys?

472
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Speaker 2: I just don't see why. Uh Niel the grasp, Niel

473
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: the grats. Tyson said the existence of flat earthers proves

474
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: of American schools have failed, and as recent Star Talk

475
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Speaker 2: video the astrophysicists, He's had to live through scientific opinions

476
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 2: of Rapper Bob at NBA, Star Kyrie Irvan, both of

477
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: whom think the Earth is flat, never mind the thousand

478
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Speaker 2: photos that exist of a spherical planet, or the thousands

479
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: of scientists who have studied the Earth for over twenty

480
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: five hundred years. They know better. So he sat out

481
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: on a crusade to explain the obvious. The Earth is

482
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Speaker 2: still a giant blue pancake floating randomly like a I mean,

483
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: isn't a giant blue flan cake floating randomly like a

484
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: lost game of frisbee golf in the universe. But when

485
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: it came to explaining to the doubters why this is obvious,

486
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: Tyson's seen a bit myth. We have videos from space

487
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: of the rotating spiraical Earth, he told Chuck Nys in

488
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: the video. What's interesting, according to Tyson, is that people

489
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Speaker 2: who believe the Earth is flat believe other planets and

490
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Speaker 2: the Moon are moon around. Trying to make it simple

491
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: so flat earths can understand, Tyson walked through the shadows

492
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Speaker 2: cast on the Earth during the lunar eclipse. They're never straight,

493
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: they're curved. And even more simple explanation is that if

494
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Speaker 2: Nice kept walking all the way around the Earth to

495
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: end up where he began, but from the west. Yet,

496
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: no matter how simply Tyson attempted to explain the proof,

497
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: there will always be some that call it an unproved theory.

498
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Speaker 2: For me, the fact that there's a rise of flat

499
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Speaker 2: earthers is evidence of two things. One, we live in

500
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Speaker 2: a country that protects free speech. And second point, however,

501
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: was far more bleak. We live in a country with

502
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Speaker 2: a failed educational system. Our system needs to train you

503
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: not only what to know, but how to think about information,

504
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Speaker 2: knowledge and evidence.

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Speaker 1: Our system, the school educational system we have here in America,

506
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: in my opinion, was never designed to actually teach people

507
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Speaker 1: to think. They were design to actually prepare you for

508
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Speaker 1: the workforce. The system is designed to follow the rules.

509
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Speaker 2: Follow the rules.

510
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Speaker 1: You do what your teacher tell you to do. You

511
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Speaker 1: do what your principal tell you to do. You follow

512
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Speaker 1: the rules, and after this you go into the workplace

513
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: and you follow the roofs. You don't buck against the system.

514
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: You do what you told And a lot of adults

515
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: have bought into that system. So the system itself was

516
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Speaker 1: automatic set up on failure because the system was designed

517
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Speaker 1: to push you into the workforce.

518
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Speaker 2: Yup. And it's just interesting because people that go to

519
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: school that know these shits. This is one of the

520
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: other scary parts of the Internet. It's allow people to

521
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: be in a circle where they can feel like it's

522
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: all a conspiracy, same way they feel about school shootings

523
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: all the shit, Like it's a conspiracy to make us

524
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: think the earth is round to what fucking game, you know?

525
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: What I mean, why would and everyone's in on it

526
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: like whatever, man, it's just wild. And it's also that

527
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: thing too where stupid people, for the most part think

528
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: being in a because we treat smartness as if it's

529
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Speaker 2: a thing that is one not achievable by everybody and rare. Right,

530
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Speaker 2: that's how we treat being smart, like, oh, you're smart

531
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Speaker 2: because you saw this a different way. Rights, it's I

532
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: would say, in most movies and fiction of the stuff.

533
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Speaker 2: That's how we've traditionally treated smartness is you're smart because

534
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Speaker 2: you're in a higher eche line of other people. When

535
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Speaker 2: we measure a test, the highest percentage of people will

536
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Speaker 2: get this this degrade on the test, and that makes

537
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Speaker 2: them smart i Q test, it's this only small percentage

538
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: of people that have high ques and shit. So then

539
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: we go, well, obviously being smart means being in a

540
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: small group of people, right, Well, that's also what being

541
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Speaker 2: contrarian is, and a lot of people who I think

542
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: a lot of people associate being contrarian with being smart. Hey,

543
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: I think the Earth is flat, Well it's not, and

544
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Speaker 2: we have scientific evidence to prove it is not. Well,

545
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: that's because you're stupid and you're a sheep and I'm smart,

546
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Speaker 2: you know. I think I think going back and going

547
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: back an article, I think that's a lot of what

548
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: happened with the twenty sixteen election. There's a smart, small

549
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: group of people that went, I'm smart because I don't

550
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Speaker 2: I think all candidates are trash, and we're like, they're

551
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: all trash. Sure, they're not all equal trash. Some are

552
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Speaker 2: more dangerous than others. Come on, well, I'm so smart.

553
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: I think the one that's the most safe is the

554
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Speaker 2: most dangerous. Okay, well that's actually not smart. That's more

555
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: contrarian and smart. Well, I'm so smart that I think

556
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: the dude that's the worst possible candidate is the best

557
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: possible candidate. Okay, you're now just being so contrariant to

558
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: feel smugly superior to everyone, and you've convinced yourself how

559
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: you're the only one that's got to figure it out

560
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: and you're fucking it up for everyone, right, you know,

561
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: And that's kind of how I think it happens with stuff,

562
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: even stuff like science like flat earth and climate change

563
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: and shit like that. People are like, well, I'm in

564
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: a small group of people that thinks ninety eight percent

565
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: of fucking scientists are stupid, and you're like, no, you're

566
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: just in a big group of people that are stupid.

567
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: Like you're you're one of the stupid people. You don't

568
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: get to just be like I did no research or

569
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: I google something, or I hit a Reddit thread, and

570
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: now the Earth is fucking flat and climate change is

571
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Speaker 2: fake and we have unlimited supply of fossil fuels, and

572
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: you know, it's like, what is wrong with you? You know,

573
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: it's extended to science. You know, I don't see this

574
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: any different every danger. I don't see there's anying different

575
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: than the people that you know, watch Fox News and

576
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: think it's just different alternative facts, you know, the same shit.

577
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: All right. A prominent American hate group collapse because of

578
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: an affair. Ah shit, Now what who knew love would

579
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Speaker 2: be the thing to destroy hate? The trailers?

580
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Speaker 1: History would tell you otherwise, Yes, well history, history would

581
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Speaker 1: tell you yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. That was a fighting over love.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm assuming most of these hate groups

584
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Speaker 1: are probably straight to It probably was over woman.

585
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Speaker 2: Love and hip group love and hate groups.

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Speaker 1: Come on, love and hate groups.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what was going on with this Alabaster of

588
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Speaker 2: more A. It seems that one of the leaders of

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Speaker 2: the Traditionalists Worker Party left the group at the fellow

590
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: hate group leader Matthew Hambach allegedly slept with his wife.

591
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Damn if that ain't some shit.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna let this hate come between us. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: let the hate among our brothers and sisters come between

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Speaker 1: our hate for them other people. Uh.

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Speaker 2: The trailer park brawl led Leeds folkesperson Matt.

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Speaker 1: Braylor park brawl.

597
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: Where else would it happened?

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Speaker 1: Right? I'm abouna say that's just straight stereo typing right now?

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00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that sounds like the best place for

600
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Speaker 2: what to happened, to be honest.

601
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Speaker 1: Come on.

602
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: The trailer park brawl led spokesperson Matt Perrott to delete

603
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Speaker 2: the neo Nazi powdi's membership list as well as his website.

604
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Speaker 2: There's no more party, ma'am, he told a reporter to

605
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Speaker 2: The Daily Beast.

606
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: Oh shit, he's like, fuck it, delete it all.

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00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: This headline has been updated deflect the development. Okay. Matthew Hambach,

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Speaker 2: the chief of the Traditionalist Worker Party and one of

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Speaker 2: the most prominent leaders of the American White nash this movement,

610
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Speaker 2: was arrested on Tuesday for allegedly attacking both his wife,

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Speaker 2: his wife Hinbach, and her stepfather, fellow party leader Matt

612
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: Parrott my step father. I wonder no whey you attacked him,

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Speaker 2: according to a police report. According to a police report

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Speaker 2: obtained by Southern Poverty Loss and of the bizarre events

615
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Speaker 2: leading to his arrest, steal from a trisk on the rock. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: Hambach and Paris' wife Jessica had an affair that lasted

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Speaker 2: three months, but Hompback's wife reportedly wanted to see if

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Speaker 2: her husband would continue to fleeing despite having said it

619
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Speaker 2: was over. On Tuesday, Matt Parrott and Brooke Homback reportedly

620
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Speaker 2: stood on a cardboard box outside of trailer home and

621
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Speaker 2: spied on their significant others from the window.

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Speaker 1: Oh so him and on him and the wife got together.

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Speaker 1: The spawn of the two.

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Speaker 2: A cardboard box?

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Speaker 1: How how strong would this goddamn cardboard.

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00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: Box outside of trailer home?

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00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: You think you'll spotted stand on a cardboard box?

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00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: The watch her get in his box? I mean him

629
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Speaker 2: getting her box, paying this offside of the box. According

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Speaker 2: to at least one account of the report, the two

631
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: began to have sex and parent went inside to confront

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Speaker 2: Paris said he poked Tombach in the chest and then

633
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: Hombach allegedly choked him out and caused him to lose consciousness.

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Speaker 2: So he ran up in there some the things that

635
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Speaker 2: I had to prove of my love and got his

636
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: ass chucked the fuck out by the dude that was

637
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Speaker 2: fucking his wife. Yep, boy, if that ain't a cuck

638
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: on couk crime. When he came to Parry took his

639
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: youngest step daughter to a Walmart and called the cops,

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00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: telling them that Hombach's wife may have taken the recording

641
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: of their encounter. Meanwhile, Hombach allegedly attacked his wife brook

642
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: grabbed her face, throwing her on to the bed. He

643
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: was caughted out off to the orange kind of jail

644
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: at handcuffs. So he got caught cheating and he beat

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Speaker 2: up two people. When the police arrived, all four people

646
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: involved an incident listened to some variation of nationalists as

647
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: their occupation and statements what you do for a living

648
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: hate niggers? All right, just write that down right here.

649
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: For years, homback house business going oh.

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Speaker 1: Great lately, I mean since I mean it's been up

651
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Speaker 1: to du for years.

652
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: Homback had tried have been trying to build a coalition

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Speaker 2: of American white nationalists and make their ideas more acceptable

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Speaker 2: in the mainstream discourse. He became famous for starting a

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Speaker 2: white student union at Twson University and was called the affable,

656
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: youthful face of hating America after he pushed that Black

657
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: Lives Matter protest at a Trump rally and got sued.

658
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: He continued to drift even more to the right and

659
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Speaker 2: was a presence at the Unite the Right in Charlottesville.

660
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: Most recently, he was set to speak alongside Richard Spenson

661
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Speaker 2: and Michigan State event that descended it to a class train,

662
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: races and protesters, so he was on the come up.

663
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, you want to see a man that's

664
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Speaker 2: about something, you know, getting his life together out here,

665
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: speaking engagements. Push. How is she supposed to turn that down?

666
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: I mean, his hate stronger than yours. Apparently, you know

667
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: she's supposed to not go after that, b w C.

668
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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Hamback is now free on bond,

669
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Speaker 2: but all is not well for the white nationalists. Uh

670
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Speaker 2: PAELI Indiana, I'm done. I'm out. Pair apparently told the

671
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: hate group track of SBOC has one Matt Parent is

672
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: out the gag. Y'all have a nice life, So he

673
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 2: gone just crank group somewhere.

674
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Speaker 1: Else by Matt Parent, it's a lot of white folks

675
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Speaker 1: out there that are embracing me, and he can be

676
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Speaker 1: a start in the group.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I got to question his commitment to

678
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: uh to hate niggas. You gonna let your wife fucking

679
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 2: another dude stop you from being a hate manga.

680
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Speaker 1: No, I don't think he will, you.

681
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: Know, I'm sure when he uh walked up in there

682
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 2: and got chucked the funk out, he was quite upset.

683
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Speaker 1: Your friend, yo, what's up your big seat to me?

684
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Speaker 1: He was at the club. Push it up on one

685
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: of my holes, yo, yo yo yo, is a hole

686
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: still messing up.

687
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Speaker 2: She made me a hope.

688
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: She's my home.

689
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Speaker 4: You know the home is.

690
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Speaker 1: You got?

691
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was his can and ky believe he let

692
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Speaker 2: little thing like little white on white affair stop everything,

693
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: you know. I like that he got choked out though.

694
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: That's my favorite.

695
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: Running up and they didn't know what you were dealing with.

696
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: And what was his daughter doing in there? Well, she

697
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: was like they was sucking with the daughter in the house.

698
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: They robbing in another room, not paying no attention, savages.

699
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: That is so sad to see white supremacists come down

700
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: like that on each other. You know, like, I wonder

701
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: if that's the white supremacist version of whenever we see

702
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter activists fighting on Twitter, you know, we'll

703
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: be like, oh, damn, so and so fell out with

704
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 2: so and so, like I was rooting for both of them.

705
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: Why can't we all get along? I wonder if white

706
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: people were sitting around like that too. Hey, yes, I'm

707
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: roboting on purpose. Okay, guys, deal with it. I like roboten,

708
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I wonder if that's how they

709
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: was feeling that pressure. Come on, guys, get can't we

710
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: just get along? Come on, while we gotta be like this,

711
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: you setting a bad example for the other hate mongers

712
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: and racists. You said, what about the children that hate

713
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: mongers and racist They gonna see y'all fighting. Okay, the

714
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: kids are seeing this. We need to get our hate together.

715
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I know, we fighting amongst ourselves. Of course, the niggas

716
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: gonna divide us.

717
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: What about the crackers in Chicago? Uh?

718
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: What about the crackers in Wisconsin?

719
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Speaker 2: That's sad mmmmmm sad when you see it happened like

720
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: that racist, hating racist mm hmmm. I should have just

721
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 2: had an all right threesome.

722
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Speaker 1: It ended better. All right, let's go to have been

723
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: choked out, but not but not like he was.

724
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Speaker 2: You know, all right, let's go to uh, fucking with

725
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: black people. We're just fucking with those black people with

726
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: just with those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking with

727
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: black people. That's right, guys, trying to play the game

728
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: that we all hate to play. It's come with black people.

729
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: The game. We go all around the globe, we find

730
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Speaker 2: what differ articles making a fuck with the will sign

731
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: points course from zero TI one hundred and the rose

732
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Speaker 2: twenty five. Today's contestants. Everybody, all right, let's see who's

733
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: fucking with us now. An Ohio firefighter has gotten fired

734
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: after sharing a racist McDonald's meme on Facebook. Springfield, Ohio

735
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: firefighter won't be putting on his putting out any fires

736
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: anytime soon after being fired for sharing a racist meme

737
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: on Facebook. According to the Springfield News, son Bradley Ball,

738
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: who was hired less than two months ago, shared a

739
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 2: meme they used a racial slur directed towards black people

740
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: and my fast food workers at high school dropouts. You

741
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: share the meme the said niggas drop out of school

742
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: and get a job at McDonald's talking about on my grind. Yeah, okay,

743
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: grind me up a oreo mcflurry with your dumb ass.

744
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: I don't think Ronald McDonald would approved this message message.

745
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: I don't know that's why Ronald talked to him, I

746
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: hope not. When he not on camera Springfield, Springfield City

747
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: Manager Jim Vardemiller notified ball at the post wasn't sensitive

748
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: and that was the reason he was terminated. Not he

749
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 2: was officially fired March ninth and should probably check see

750
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: a McDonald's high That was just petty and that was

751
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Speaker 2: our girl, Like you should have wrote that. Yeah, I

752
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: got I mean zero, can.

753
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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 2: Zero? Not fuck with it all, guys, I mean not

755
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: by his firing necessarily. You know, I'm not saying he

756
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: should have been fired. And obviously it was very sensitive

757
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: and to drop outs and uh what not to share

758
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: that mean, But I think it was a classic case

759
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: of a black person joke getting shared on a white

760
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: person's wall. And that's the whole thing. Like if it

761
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: was a if a black person shared that joke, I'll

762
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: just laugh like y'all niggas be tripping, like I'll say

763
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: it was. I mean, I don't agree with the joke,

764
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: but it's a joke, you know. I don't have to

765
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: agree with your fucking joke. It's a joke. But yeah,

766
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 2: a white person sharing it, nah, man can't be sharing

767
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: a nigga on you all. Only we could get to

768
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: say it, even though y'all invented the word. Deal with it,

769
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: deal with it. This is our reparations. Racism victims suspended

770
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: rac victed. Racism victim is suspended by a university because

771
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: her abuser feels intimidated mm hm. The victim says the

772
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Speaker 2: university are making black students out to be aggressive. A

773
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: university student has been suspended by de Montfort University after

774
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: she reported an incident of a racist abuse as the

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Speaker 2: abuser now feels scared and intimidated behind Angry Black woman

776
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Sawyer was invited out by coursemates who sang the

777
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: racist nursery rhyme eenie meanie mini moe, including the line

778
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: catching nigger by its toe. She said. One of the

779
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: students later called her a nigger to her face. On campus.

780
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: Elizabeth shared her story of being abused online, calling out

781
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Speaker 2: her university for their lack of action against the abuser,

782
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: to which the university responded by assisting that they were

783
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: taking allegations extremely seriously and would take immediate and appropriate action.

784
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Speaker 2: But a month after the incident, Elizabeth told the university

785
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Speaker 2: newspaper The Demon that de Monford had suspended her. She

786
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: said she had received a letter from the university revealing

787
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: a complaint that she had used abusive and offensive language

788
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: towards the coursemate, and that, penning an investigation into the incident,

789
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Speaker 2: she would be suspended from campus. The university is suspending

790
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: me because the two white, racist white girls feel scared

791
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: and intimidated by seeing me, so now they are making

792
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Speaker 2: sure the black students are not going to retaliate. So

793
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: I have been suspended until further notice. I'm so angry

794
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: because if I wanted to threaten him a fight, I

795
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: would have fought. Since February, they are making the black

796
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: students look aggressive that with that is not the case

797
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: at all. Addressing the social media outcry against the university actions,

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00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 2: the spokespors for the university said, we completely understand people's

799
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: concerns regarding what's been posted on Twitter since last night

800
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: about the suspension or of one of our students. It

801
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: is extremely sensitive issue. There are a number of aspects

802
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: which need to be explored. I gotta get that one

803
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 2: a hundred dollars.

804
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just I just said one hundred because

805
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: this makes me angry.

806
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: M yeah, that's that whole Like you're the real racist

807
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 2: for noticing shit was racist and being upset by racism.

808
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 2: You're so you gotta go. You gotta get off campus

809
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: because we don't know what you're gonna do. I mean,

810
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 2: you're able to get called nigger and have an attitude

811
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: about it, and we can't have that on our campus.

812
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: Like at least that's how I read it. That's funny

813
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: because she didn't threaten them, and then I guarantee they

814
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: weren't kicked off campus for the quote unquote investigation that

815
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: never happened, right right, But.

816
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: Bitch, you scared of me, like she said, if I

817
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: wanted to put these hands on you, how to put

818
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: these hands on you? A while ago? I have to

819
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: put these hands on you whill you initially said something

820
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: my face, but it didn't So I'm not a threat.

821
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm the one that's actually scared here. But

822
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: then university doesn't see it like that.

823
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: Right, So uh that was obvious obviously.

824
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: The I mean not the sense of it was wrong

825
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: to steal and burn down a CDs and if an

826
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Speaker 1: old person's home, I mean, come.

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Speaker 3: On, come on.

828
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Speaker 2: So calling them thugs, just call them niggas, Just call

829
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: them niggas. Joe's crabshack. Sorry for con troversial picture.

830
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: They're still around the ones around here closed.

831
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Speaker 2: Well maybe this is why this is a Rooseville. Roosevelt, Minnesota.

832
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 2: A Rooseville restaurant is under fire for an image foul

833
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: on the dining table depicting a hanging YEP. Minneapolis NAACP

834
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: says Tyron Williams and Shatil Allen just the race we're

835
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: preparing to down at Joe's crashat Wednesday night when they

836
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: noticed the photo and bettered inside of the tabletop. The

837
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: image appears to show a group a large group of

838
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: white people watching the public execution of at least one

839
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: black person, all perfect dining accoutrement. As I would say,

840
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: you ever just be hanging, You're like, you know what

841
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: this day COO could use in him a legend of

842
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: a black person.

843
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: At the crab shack.

844
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 2: At the crab shack, whoa, whoa whoa at the Because

845
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 2: the thing is when the Joe's crab Shack was here, uh,

846
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 2: and you would go and they would be busy.

847
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: They would do bullshit like dance around and ship like

848
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: that to waste time for fifteen minutes to get the cooks,

849
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: had to get the kitchens actually time to catch up,

850
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, little bullshit like that. The drinks were good,

851
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: but you know it was like the food was light

852
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: for you for me to watch you fucking dance while

853
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm hungry?

854
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: Why did this turn to a YEP review that has

855
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: nothing to do with this article? What's going on over there?

856
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: You went from yeah, I'm sorry, I went from that

857
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: to yeah, fuck them. I don't want to have to

858
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: sit there and watch you dance and turn around and

859
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: looked down on the table and seeing it getting hung No.

860
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Speaker 2: Three stars, Okay, terrible. The food takes too long, just

861
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: hurry up.

862
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: And drinks were good, right, and now I got to

863
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: turn around and seeing Nicka getting hang sketching them a table.

864
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: I am highly upset. May I speak to.

865
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Speaker 2: A manager m speaking of crash? Nothing but a crab

866
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: and the barrel for that one. What about all the

867
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: black people working at Joe crash shat, What about them? Yeah?

868
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: That's uh, that's pretty bad. On the bottom of the

869
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: picture of reeves hanging at Grosbeck, Texas, April twelfth, eighteen

870
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: ninety five, at the top, it says, all I said

871
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: was that I didn't like the gumbo, so it's a joke.

872
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: This after customers at the Roseville location complained that the picture.

873
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Well, it was playing the article and

874
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: now it's not. I don't know what I'm supposed to do. Now,

875
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: all right, Well I'll try to talk and see if

876
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: it catches up. But yeah, on the bottom of the picture,

877
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so Williams said. The pair immediately waved down

878
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 2: the manager. Although the manager was apologetic about the lynch

879
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: is racist Carol jlst what the fuck? Uh? Let me

880
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 2: just turn turn the vou.

881
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

882
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: Although the manager was apologetic about the lynching depiction, that

883
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: has not changed the fact that the sickening image of

884
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: black men being lynch was intentionally embedded inside of the table.

885
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: That type of blatant racism should not be tolerated this country.

886
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: Nobody said nothing or.

887
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: In our local and national eating establishments. I felt so

888
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: sick to my stomach get stressed out since seeing the

889
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 2: image on the table where I was planning to eat

890
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: my food. Well, you know what, it makes me think

891
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: a white person designed and bought that table. Of course,

892
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: I feel like this is not the first story we've

893
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: covered of something similar to this that will guarantee you that. However,

894
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: that table was produced, a white person thought it was funny,

895
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: and they didn't see to them, they just went, it

896
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what racist the person is getting lynched, it's

897
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: the funny. The joke is it's someone getting lynched because

898
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: they didn't like the gumbo. Ha ha. Isn't that funny? No,

899
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: you can't take that picture and make it funny to everybody,

900
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: you know, and your job is to serve me food,

901
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: not to be funny.

902
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: Come on, I didn't come in for the jokes that

903
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: came in for the crab.

904
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: Nobody's ever walked out and said, thank God for that table.

905
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Boy, the food was terrible,

906
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: but was that table funny? Mm hmmmm uh, Let's do

907
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: another segment. Let's move on. Oh, that's enough fucking with

908
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: black people today.

909
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: Come on, just started out fucking we were at the

910
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: first story.

911
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: Just barely know it's barely fucking uh oh, let's see, well,

912
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: I do you know what, we haven't done this in

913
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: a while. Let's up try to take out the trash guys.

914
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: Let's see what's going on in this news. Uh find

915
00:49:39,480 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: the trash. Anti childbride bill stalls in Kentucky, where girls

916
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: age thirteen can marry. A bill out lowing child outlawing

917
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: child marriage and Kentucky has stalled in the state Senate

918
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 2: Judiciary Committee at the last minute opposition from a conservative group.

919
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 2: The bill was proposed by Republican state Senator Julie rock

920
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: Adams and band's marriage under the age of seventeen, with

921
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 2: those seeking to marry at the age require at that

922
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: age requiring a judge's approval. Under current law, girl of

923
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 2: any age can marry as long as she's pregnant and

924
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: wedding the expectant father. Right.

925
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: And that's such a fucked up law. That law is

926
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: so fucked up. I forgot what state it was in.

927
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: But a black lady she actually got the lass change

928
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: in her state. I forgot what state this is, Please

929
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: forgive me. And she was a black lady and she

930
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: ended up getting abused by like I think, I want

931
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: to say, like a deaconing church. She ended up being

932
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: abused at like nine, having a child at ten, and

933
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: then was forced to be married because her parents actually

934
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: signed them, you know, signed a degree. She was forced

935
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: to get married. She don't have five more children because

936
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: of that, and Florida and she ended up fighting in

937
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: the state and was like, hey, no child should be

938
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: forced to do this bullshit. And I think they made

939
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: it seventeen. No, up to I think up to sixteen.

940
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: I think seventeen you can get married and think the

941
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: person has to be like one or two years older

942
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: than you or something like that, so you basically your

943
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: parents can't force you into marrying somebody. Because she said

944
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: her having the child is one thing, but she don't

945
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: think she would have been forced into such a horrible

946
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: marriage with this person because the person that raped her,

947
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: she end up having them be married to. And everybody

948
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: act like every time a young lady gets pregnant is

949
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: always with a little boyfriend or something like that. No,

950
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: it can sometimes be your rapist and your abuser too.

951
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: Under the current law, a girl of vidyage can marry

952
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: as long as she's pregnant and wedding they expected father.

953
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: Teens under the age of sixteen or seventeen can marry

954
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: with parental permission. According to women's rights advocacy group the

955
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: Terror Justice Center, They Tell You has the third highest

956
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: number of child marriages in the US, behind Texas and Florida,

957
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 2: with eleven thousand children married in the state between twenty

958
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Last August, they found an investigation found miners

959
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: as young as thirteen that been.

960
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: Married, and a lot of times they marry these old

961
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: fucking ass men. Every now and then it be children marrying,

962
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, children their own age, but most of the

963
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: time be these old ass men.

964
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: So disappointed, wrote Adam after learning that the bill would

965
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: not go to vote Friday, my SB forty eight outlaw

966
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: child marriage won't be called for a vote. It is

967
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: discussing that lobbying organizations would embrace kids marrying adults. We

968
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 2: see evidence of parents who are addicted abusive neglect for

969
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: pushing their children into predatory arms. Appalling. Ellen Ellie Eleen Rechtenwaal,

970
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: the executive director of the Kentucky Association of Sexual Assought Programs,

971
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 2: condemned the decision in the statement to The Courier Journal,

972
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: this is legalized rape of a child. We cannot allow

973
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: that to continue in Kentucky, and I cannot believe we

974
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: are even debating this in the year twenty eighteen in

975
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 2: the United States. Among supporters of the bill is Donna Pollard,

976
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: who was married at sixteen to a much older man

977
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: who had been sexually abusing her since the age of fourteen.

978
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: She says she faced years of physical or psychological abuse

979
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: in the marriage, which she was pushed into by her mother.

980
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: I felt just completely a totally trapped, Polo told the

981
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: Journal in January. She now campaigns for reforming the state's

982
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: marriage laws. Adams told the Inside of that the bill

983
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: stalled at the pressure from the influential Family Foundation of Kentucky,

984
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: a conservative lobbying group. Family Foundation spokesman Martin Cotherine told

985
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: the publication the Friday that we haven't done much lobbying

986
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: at all against this bill, though they had expressed our

987
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: concerns to the chairman of the committee and asked for

988
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 2: a week to work this out. He said the group

989
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: opposed a bill because it takes away parental rights at

990
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: the very beginning and then includes them in a sort

991
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: of incidental way at the end of the process. So look,

992
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: if your parents want to sell or give away their

993
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: thirteen year old daughter, I mean, who are we to judge?

994
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: Basically is this point here's the thing I would throw in.

995
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: This kind of feels a little bit like how people

996
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: who fight against abortion laws have to fight constantly again,

997
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: at every level. So they're like, hey, we have to

998
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: fight against people trying to redefine like what a term

999
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 2: is for a baby. We have to fight against how

1000
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: many weeks, you know, when they try to put something

1001
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: like we we want to put in a condition that

1002
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: you can't do it after this number of weeks, and

1003
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: we want to fight around that, And so they have

1004
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: to fight against that, just because at some point, the

1005
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 2: ultimate goal of the people who are pushing for those

1006
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: laws is not to stop at Okay, we all agree,

1007
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: you know, thirty weeks is the limit. No, Their goal

1008
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: is to be like, Okay, now that we got thirty,

1009
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: we want twenty eight. Now we got twenty eight, let's

1010
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: go to twenty two. Now till eventually where it's like, uh,

1011
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: you can't have you you can't have an abortion period,

1012
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: you cannot choose to do that. I wonder if this

1013
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 2: is the opposite thing, but for child rape, right, you

1014
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, uh, well, if we fight

1015
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: on this at all, well, if we just let them

1016
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: do this, what's next? You know what I mean?

1017
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: Like, so try not being goddamn abused at thirteen and

1018
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: fourteen and fifteen years old.

1019
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: Cause, like the religious freedom people and shit, I really

1020
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 2: feel you know, in many cases that they're trying to

1021
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 2: just a lot of it is about controlling women's bodies, right,

1022
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: So this is a measure that gives up control of

1023
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: women's bodies, girl bodies, female bodies early in life. You know.

1024
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: Is as far as how they view it. I'm not

1025
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: saying all people with giant's a female bibble, I don't

1026
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: you know, y'all get it. But a lot of this

1027
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: is about the perceived control of the bodies of females.

1028
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 2: So to them, they're like, yeah, though, the more that

1029
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: someone else has a chance to have a say over

1030
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: someone else's body, the better, right, And a.

1031
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: Lot of times these young ladies they are not educated,

1032
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: they don't go to school. They end up spending a

1033
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: lot of their lives raising children.

1034
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: If you have the kind of parents that would let

1035
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: you get married at thirteen you also had the kind

1036
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: of parents that are probably letting you be stupid. Correct,

1037
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 2: let's see times up sixty days and this was launched

1038
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: on the carpet, but was never intended to live on

1039
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: the carpet. The workplace equality Movements Legal to Fist Fund

1040
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: has so far raised twenty one million dollars and connected

1041
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 2: twelve hundred and fifty people to legal resource. That's good.

1042
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: Times Up mail started with the new Uni Year's Day

1043
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: allowncement signed by three hundred Hollywood women. But it's organized.

1044
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: Want to make it clear that this campaign is much

1045
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: more expansive than many may have assumed. For one, it's

1046
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: not about just about sexual harassment, although the tighter way

1047
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: of public sexual misconduct allegations have served as the inciting

1048
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: as the inciting incident for the movement. Times Up, which

1049
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: is forming as a five to one c social welfare organization,

1050
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: is about basic fairness in the workplace, said bad Robot

1051
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: CEO Katie McGrath, who joined seven other times up leaders

1052
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: to deliver sixty day pay of a sixty day progress

1053
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: report to the press on Thursday. So, yeah, they have

1054
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: been out here trying to do some actual work. You know.

1055
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: It's funny because every once while I see somebody throw

1056
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: shaded times up or as a movement or whatever as

1057
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: an organ the she's trying to help people, and it

1058
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: always feels so kind of productive, because like the alternative

1059
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 2: to this was nothing correct, you know what I mean,

1060
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: Like I don't even understand what the problem if they're helping,

1061
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: they're helping, if they're getting you know, and then a

1062
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: low key like I didn't feel like fighting with this

1063
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: person on my page, but she like kind of like

1064
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: shitted on them because someone got like a man got

1065
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: an award at at a at a thing, like I

1066
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: think Kobe got an award. She was like so much

1067
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: for times Up. And I'm like, Okay, I understand the hypocrisy,

1068
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: but Time's Up is not giving out these awards.

1069
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: You They're not.

1070
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: They're not they're not they're not the oscars, you know

1071
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: what I mean. I don't think any of the people

1072
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: involved the Times Up would have had would have been

1073
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: like yay Kobe.

1074
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1075
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: And even still, you know, like I understand like the

1076
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: individual feelings of some of the women involved, may you know,

1077
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: call some sort of pushback to it, and I'm not

1078
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: here to defend it or not I don't really care.

1079
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: But this movement is also hammed by, and influenced by,

1080
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 2: and controlled by, in a lot of ways, a lot

1081
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Speaker 2: of black and brown women, which is one of the

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00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: reasons that their idea of justice this time sounds so

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00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: less white feminism. Not saying that it's not some in there,

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00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: but it sounds a lot less. It's a lot more like, well,

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00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: we have means we're not the ones who need to

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00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: take this money and like defend each other. How do

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00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: we align with women who work in the fields of

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00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: crops that the gay crops, that have no actual legal

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00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: defense fund and constantly talk about sexual harassment and rape

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00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: and battery and stuff, and they have nobody has it back.

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00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: How do we transfer this money to them so they

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00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 2: can defend themselves legally in the court of law. Ideas

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00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: like that no offense to white women. But they don't

1094
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 2: come from white women, No, they don't, you know what

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00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: I mean. Ideas like that that come from activists who've

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01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: already been involved in this, which is one of the

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01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: things that first things they did was go get activists

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01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: that actually know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: And they've seen this over and over again. They kind

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Speaker 1: of know how the system works against brown people and

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Speaker 1: people of color. So I'm a little virginalized women.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm a little protective of some of the

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01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: stuff with Times UP because I don't want to come

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01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: in from somebody being on some like dang shit, and

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01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 2: I'll have to be like, well, I don't think y'all

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01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: can really just shit on these black and brown women

1107
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: that are coming up with didyas for this movement. I

1108
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: think you got to actept the fuck back. Let them cook,

1109
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 2: and if you find the end results ain't shit, cool,

1110
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: but let's not blame them for hundreds of years and

1111
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: decades of an industry being fucked up and be like,

1112
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: y'all didn't fix it in one second. Y'all whole movement

1113
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: is trash.

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Speaker 1: Correct and excuse me. And also in a lot of

1115
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: the activist space, a lot of times it's jealousy and

1116
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: envy a lot of people. Whenever the shit ain't them

1117
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: and they're not involved and they're not profiting from it

1118
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: and they're not getting the line life, they immediately come

1119
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: out of you on everything that's not centered around them.

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Speaker 2: To the end time to that end, Times I was

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01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: partnering with nonprofit Story Corps to enable women to record

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01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: their own stories about being on the job and upload

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01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: them to the Library of Congress, where will Lil Forever

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01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: is a narrative of working women in marketing this moment,

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01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: it's going to be astounding that had this archive and

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01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: helped demonstrate that workplace inequality is such a pervasive condition

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Speaker 2: for women and for men. The partnership will launch Friday

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Speaker 2: morning with a story from Ashley Judge. Ain't find in

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01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: America Ferrara to have also contributed their hotails. Times Up. Also,

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Speaker 2: it's not just about the entertainment industry, a point that's

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01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: been repeatedly emphasized and was underlined at the Golden Glows

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01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: when seven active actresses escorted seven activists on the red carpet,

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01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: the latter who included Ali Alian Alien Wait Alianza. That's

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Speaker 2: what I'm meant to say. Nacional dey Compisinos National Farmers

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01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: Workers Women's Alliance is what it's called. Co founder Monica Ramirez,

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01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: Restaurant Opportunity Center United President Sarru Jayaraman, and the National

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01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: Domestic Workers Alliance Director Agen Pooh, who have all contributed

1138
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: to working closely with Times Up in their respective sectors

1139
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: of expertise. The campaign strategy in expanding its reach to

1140
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: more industries is to identify an ally with activists already

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01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: working for women's rights in those fields. Say able to

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: earn a two months into the Legal Defense Fund, they

1143
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: have filled it more than one hundred I mean a thousand,

1144
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: seven hundred requests for assistants from individuals working in more

1145
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: than sixty different industries, just a small percentage hell from entertainment,

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01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: said political consultant Hillary Rosen, adding when we started the fund,

1147
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 2: we wanted to make sure that we prioritize the wage worker.

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01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: There are clearly needs across the board, but priorities are

1149
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 2: giving the workers in industries that are particularlyulnerable, right.

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01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: Which probably me like the service industry, which is probably

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01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: the normal one industry because more women work in that

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: industry than probably any other industry. That's why they don't

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01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: pay nobody in those industries.

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01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 2: Well, also, me too started getting re getting the most

1155
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: attention because it started happening to prominent white actresses. So

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01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: it's almost like they already have a recourse. They already

1157
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: have the we believe women people with them to some extent,

1158
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: not saying that they don't have a hard path because

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01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: anybody that's a survivor of sexual assault and harassment immediately

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01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: gets scrutinized in a way that you know, other people

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01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 2: don't correct but own that scale of like things that

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01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: are on your side, they have way more on their

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01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 2: side than someone who's like, I'm a farm worker in

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01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: Louisiana and maybe I'm in the country illegally or something,

1165
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 2: or maybe I'm in the country legally, but I don't,

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01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: you know, with DOCA and all this shit getting challenged,

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01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: I don't feel like going to I can go to

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01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: authorities and I'm making pennies on the dollar. Maybe I'm

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01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 2: you know, not on maybe the entire the entire thing

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01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: that I'm doing is not necessarily documented in the most

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01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: stringent way because the company's doing it off the books

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01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: and paying me cash and shit like that. Do I

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01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: feel like if I get sexually assaulted, I can just

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01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: tell Hollywood reporter and they report on it. Now, is

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01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: anyone gonna reach out to me? And but like we

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01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: interview ten women that were assaulted by this person that

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Speaker 2: in this industry. No, But maybe now with this money

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01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: and these and these resources, maybe I can't get my

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01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: day in court. Correct The fun which is how is

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Speaker 2: that The National Women's Law Center has so far raised

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01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: twenty one million dollars from twenty thousand. Donations range between

1182
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: five dollars to two million. Starting next week, lawyers will

1183
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: be able to apply online to the NWLC to request disbursements,

1184
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: although many of the five hundred plus attorney volunteers are

1185
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: already offering their services pro bono day twelve hundred and

1186
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: fifty dollars to the fund of being connected with legal resources.

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 2: Although the times up Legal Defense Fund will only be

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01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: able to assist employees in the United States, the campaign

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01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: has filled the inquiries about other countries in King of

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01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 2: South Korea, Pakistan, Kaway and Mexico.

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01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about.

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01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 2: Times Up Entertainment is the base of how this all started,

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01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: but we're becoming times up global, said Shinna Ronce. Valentine's

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01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: Day saw the launch of the UK based Justice and

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01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 2: Equality Fund with a one million year pound donation from

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01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 2: Maason What that fund. The SENSE raised nearly an additional

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01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 2: six hundred thousand pounds in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Right because and not the crap on the white women

1199
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: that shit also did brown people think about go yeaheah, Yeah, Okay,

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01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: it's good that were doing it here, but y'all do

1201
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: know is other places that actually need this too, that

1202
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: we could actually do great work in these areas too.

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Speaker 1: Let's look outside of the United States of America and

1204
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Speaker 1: a lot of those places are brown.

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Speaker 2: And this is only a sixty days. Such projects have

1206
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: been born out of mutual inspiration and proactive initiative. The

1207
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: women who have been speaking on behalf of Times Up

1208
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: want to clarify that it's never been an invitation based organization.

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01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: Hollywood breeds a feeling of exclusion for people. Seanna Ron said,

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01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: there's this feeling that this must be something that you're

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01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: invited to because everything else in this town that's built

1212
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 2: on that idea. But this just doesn't work this way.

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01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: If you want to join, you can make it happen

1214
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: wherever you are, she said. Said Lord Durr, who said

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01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: that meetings for him while she was on location in

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01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: Atlanta because a crew member suggested it. We've had questions

1217
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: about it. There is if there's the facto leadership here,

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01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: and the truth is that it's just people who continue

1219
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 2: to show up and do the work, said Tessa Thompson.

1220
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: Because everyone's in Times Up also works a full time

1221
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: day job. The campaign allows for fluid participation. I wasn't

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01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: involved in the first month, to Verney said, literally after

1223
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 2: I got done with a wrinkle the time, I called

1224
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: attorney Nina Shaw and was like, is there a meeting?

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Speaker 2: Although there is more architectural architecture being put around a

1226
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: BIT group, it's a flexible leadership structure that allows people

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01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: to come in and out and not just in our industry.

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01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 2: Despite that, the campaign has been able to draw two

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01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: hundred to four hundred attendees to this monthly meetings, while

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01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: it's countless smaller working groups. Which group which the group

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01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: often refers to who has spokes on a wheel meet

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01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 2: as frequently as needed on weekends and evenings throughout the month.

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Speaker 2: It's also incredible all these women doing this while already

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01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: having full time fucking jobs and being titans in their industry.

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Speaker 2: And they're like, and in addition to this, because you

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01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: can't you know, men won't do it after decades of

1237
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: men ignoring this and companies prioritizing these men first. It's

1238
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: really literally left up to the people who are being

1239
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 2: targeted and affected by it to be the activist that

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01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: fix it. That's sad, but it's the truth. It wouldn't

1241
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: happen if it not for that.

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01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: It sure wouldn't happen. And the thing is uh, And

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01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: like you say, it's funny that you say that, because

1244
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: like you see a lot of women in the industry,

1245
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: but where all the men. They didn't say men couldn't join.

1246
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: They didn't say men aren't abused.

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01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: There's even a time There even is a times up Men,

1248
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: which had its first meeting at UCLA and mid January.

1249
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: About one hundred and eighty men, about three times more

1250
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 2: than the women expected, showed up to hear from gender

1251
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 2: study sociologists Michael Kimmel and activist Ted Brunch, the chief

1252
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 2: development officer for a Call to Men, which works to

1253
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 2: prevent violence against women and girls. These convenings had not

1254
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: previously been publicized to the press because although times Up

1255
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: started solf splashy on the red carpet, there's real work

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01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: being done di vern, they said, adding that individuals may

1257
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 2: elect to where pens are Oscar Sunday, but the movement

1258
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: is eager to move on from being seen as an

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01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 2: awards show protest group. The organizers acknowledged that they have

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01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: worked with producers to create a times up moment during

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01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 2: the telecast, but that's just the surface of their efforts.

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01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: This was launched on the carpet, but it was never

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: intended to live on the carpet, said McGrath. A really

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01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: on the nose presence might feel satisfied, but we want

1265
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 2: to make sure that as we move forward, we're being

1266
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: strategic and thoughtful and authentic in our activations. And I

1267
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 2: roll out sixty days in. We don't need to fit

1268
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: everything into it. It's more important to do it.

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01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: Right, correct them. And also a lot of people with

1270
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 1: shitting on them. But all y'all doing out there's laying pins,

1271
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: all y'all out there doing A lot of people criticized

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01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: them for that when next said a lot of shit

1273
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: that they doing wasn't public yet.

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01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: Also a lot of people just sound a really fucking

1275
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: stupid bit there, jealous and like some fucking haters.

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01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: Dog.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing you gotta with a lot

1278
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: of shit, man, you just have to do your thing

1279
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 2: and let motherfuckers talk shit. Because it was a lot

1280
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 2: of people that was hating on that lane. But they

1281
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 2: went out and got a lot of activists that have

1282
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 2: like their credentials. They went out and and let them

1283
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 2: come up with the ideas, and ly they went out

1284
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: and found h titans in the industry that weren't just

1285
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: white women and said, hey, what are your ideas about this?

1286
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: And let them be spokespeople and lead on that shit.

1287
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 2: So it's like it's that thing where they did things

1288
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: the way that people say they want it done right,

1289
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 2: but they still didn't come called your black ass, So

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01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: you mad? You know what I mean? I just I

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01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: just had to ignore them people, because there's a large

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Speaker 2: partshit of of a lot of this stuff where I'm like,

1293
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 2: do people want justice or they're just jealous? And when

1294
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 2: you look at when you look at things that way,

1295
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: a lot of times you can decipher the real from

1296
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 2: the fake. It's like, Okay, you just mad, you're not

1297
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: up on the stage, But why the fuck would you

1298
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 2: be mad at this movement? You you clearly don't know shit,

1299
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: Yet you don't have to answer to these questions. I'm

1300
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 2: just asking questions. I'm like, these are loaded questions to

1301
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 2: say that the movement ain't shit and the shit on

1302
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 2: it okay, cool, got it? Well, I like, you can't

1303
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 2: do you can't work with everybody, and you're just one

1304
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 2: of those people you can't work with. But a lot

1305
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: of people is coming at them sideways for trying to help,

1306
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and for not And like

1307
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: I said, I saw people that was this and also

1308
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: just so y'all bring out some activists ain't up but

1309
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 2: just black face on y'all white shit, And I'm like, okay,

1310
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: So then if they would have called you, you would have

1311
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 2: turned the call down. Come on, or you will put

1312
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 2: on your best dress and been the fuck out there

1313
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 2: front and center, like finally I can put I can

1314
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 2: get my profile raised, and my can and all the

1315
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 2: causes that I want to promote rais. I've been a

1316
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 2: room with some people that got resources and reach to

1317
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 2: help me. You would have turned that down, Know the

1318
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: fuck you wouldn't. Don't lie to men.

1319
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: Who say they won't do it again and asks another

1320
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: set of activists, right, you don't know?

1321
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 2: Right? So I don't know.

1322
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: Man.

1323
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of a lot of what

1324
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: a lot of the visibility of it is what people

1325
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: get jealous of, But sometimes the visibility is necessary to

1326
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 2: get the work done, correct, you know what I mean?

1327
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: Like like they people, I think people see visibility and

1328
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: they covet it, and they think, well, obviously, that's the

1329
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: part of it. I want I need to be seen,

1330
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 2: I want to be everywhere. But it's like dog the

1331
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 2: work happens behind the scenes, and them giving out the

1332
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 2: progress report kind of thing answers a lot of questions

1333
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 2: that people were either being misled on or or purposely

1334
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 2: trying to spread negativity about their movement and be like,

1335
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: it ain't do this, it ain't do that, and it's like, so,

1336
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 2: you ain't intending no meanings, you don't know nobody in it,

1337
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 2: you don't got no reports, but you out here basically

1338
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: saying they ain't doing shit, and then when they do

1339
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 2: really something, it's crickets. It's quiet as fuck. So but

1340
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 2: shout out to the shout out to the to the

1341
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 2: work that's being done. Though, that's amazing, because I'm sure

1342
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: if I was one of those seventeen hundred people that

1343
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 2: needed help and got that that got that answer on

1344
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: that phone and got into in twelve hundred and fifty

1345
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: people or whatever that got in touch with legal resources

1346
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: that I could not afford myself, couldn't, I'm pretty sure

1347
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: I'd be thankful. But that's just me, right, let's see

1348
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 2: who else is trash? Bamboo rolling papers air is in

1349
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: hot water for allegedly sending around his wife's bikini picks.

1350
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 2: This trash is who this is?

1351
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: Okay? I believe.

1352
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 2: Is sending photos to overweight women of a shapely woman

1353
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: in a bikini a hate crime. I don't know if

1354
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: it's a hate crime. Larry Spiegel spillfogel air to the

1355
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 2: bamboo rolling papers fortune might find out the Manhattan Nights

1356
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: sixty seven years old acting like this. That's right, sixty

1357
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: seven years old, acting like a fucking child. He allegedly

1358
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 2: sent swimwear photos of his much younger wife, Deborah Wisdoms bigfold,

1359
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 2: spilled fogel or whatever to clients at the Rice House

1360
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: Healthcare program near Durham, North Carolina, with the message, hey bitches,

1361
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 2: no fat asses here we Two years ago, he was

1362
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 2: baddished from the program, a clinic that treats obesity and

1363
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: a variety of medical disorders, for bad behavior. At the

1364
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 2: same time, The Post has learned he was trolling female

1365
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 2: members with the photos and it may it may get

1366
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: him in big trouble with the law. A source added

1367
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: that at the end of twenty seventeen, all the emails

1368
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 2: and texts were turned over to the FBI agents who

1369
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: and they were reviewing Larry's actions as possible hate crimes.

1370
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 2: Jerry Clayton, Spillfogel's lawyer claims that he is not aware

1371
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 2: of any Facebook I mean, any FBI investigation. However, after Spigel,

1372
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 2: after spill Fogel was asked to leave the Rice House

1373
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: at twenty sixteen, he was charged with stalking, but didn't

1374
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,879
Speaker 2: show up to his court dates, so in the restaurant

1375
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: was issued in April. The warrant is still outstanding per

1376
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: the county court. Well, I guess he can't step back

1377
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 2: step foot back. In North Carolina, Colo, spill Fogel was

1378
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: terrorizing my clients. Rice house owner John A. Cox told me,

1379
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 2: and once he was thrown out, he tried to destroy

1380
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: the pro and me personally. Spill fogel lawyer told a

1381
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: North Carolina court that his client has a hard condition

1382
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 2: and cannot travel. But spill Fogel posted reviews on Facebook

1383
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: of hotels and restaurants in France, Italy, Miami, in Las

1384
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 2: Vegas last year. I like that he also had to

1385
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: review on He was also for Yelp. He was also

1386
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 2: seen in the Hampton's riding his motorcycles Clayton assists. At

1387
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: the time of the proceeding in North Carolina, mister spill

1388
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 2: fogl was hospitalive with coordinary disease. Trash trash, what else

1389
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: could it be? Uh see, it just felt very wrong.

1390
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 2: Sherman Alexi's accusers go on the record. Writer Sherman Alexi

1391
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 2: last week issued a statement admitting he has harmed others

1392
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: after rumors and allegations began to circulate about sexual harassment,

1393
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 2: without providing details, Alexi said there are women telling the

1394
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: truth and he apologized to the people he has hurt.

1395
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: Now some of these women have come forward to speak

1396
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 2: to NPR about their experiences with him. Alexi may not

1397
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 2: be a household name, but he is one of the

1398
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: country's best known Native American poets and writers, with a

1399
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 2: charismatic and personality and a large following. He won the

1400
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,560
Speaker 2: National Book Award in two thousand and seven for his

1401
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: Youth Young Ago young adult novel The Absolutely True Diary

1402
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 2: of a Part Time Indian, and he wrote the screenplay

1403
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 2: for the film Smoke Signals, based on one of his stories.

1404
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: So the news about him has rocked the world of

1405
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:34,440
Speaker 2: both the Native American and children's literature in those circles,

1406
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 2: well he's a rock star, says children book author and Ursue.

1407
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 2: After the Harvey Weinstein sexual assault story broke, Ursue decided

1408
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 2: to survey women in the children's book business to see

1409
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,919
Speaker 2: if they had experienced such problems, just as many media companies,

1410
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 2: including NPR have, Ursue's The story, which he published in

1411
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: February on the website Medium, contributed to the whisper of

1412
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 2: sexual scandal that was already building around some well known authors,

1413
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: including Alexi Ursue. I mean, Alexi Ursue said, some of

1414
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 2: the most popular kids book writers use the power that

1415
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: celebrities seduce women. There's there's nothing that that There really

1416
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 2: is nothing that we as men won't get a little

1417
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 2: bit of power in to be like and now it's

1418
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 2: push the grabbing time, like it really don't matter children books. Man,

1419
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: he's bitches feeling these children books. Bro I'm gonna just

1420
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: have to grab some titters.

1421
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, these moms that got kids just showing up.

1422
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna turn down this young adult novel, dick Girl.

1423
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 2: Come on, if you are inspiring, author Ursue said, and

1424
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 2: you can go. You go to a reading or someone

1425
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: who is famous and beloved at who's work you admire,

1426
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 2: and he suddenly takes an interest in you and your

1427
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: work and he thinks you're special, and you start emailing

1428
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 2: he wants to mentor you, and then suddenly it turns

1429
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: out all he wanted to do is have sex with you.

1430
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 2: Those writers are left utterly devastated. Right, See is the

1431
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 2: other part too, This isn't right, like this man may

1432
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 2: not like this doesn't sound like so far, okay, I

1433
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: haven't finished reading this then, not like criminal behavior, but

1434
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 2: it's definitely it moral, like can we not agree on that?

1435
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 2: Like I come to you for mentorship and you just

1436
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: offered me some dick instead.

1437
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: Like everything ain't dick?

1438
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 2: Just say no, I'd rather you literally tell me no.

1439
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: I don't want to mentor you. I'm trying to fuck

1440
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: so I can make a.

1441
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: Decision, right, because you take my choice away. And like

1442
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: you said, it's one of those things where men think

1443
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: everything is do you want some dick? You know, come

1444
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: over here to ment to me?

1445
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: Do you want some No?

1446
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't want no dick. Everything to answer to everything

1447
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: ain't dick?

1448
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 2: Right? The rumors about Alexi, we were already growing louder

1449
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 2: about a week ago, Seattle based writer Litza Dremosis began

1450
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 2: tweeting about him, calling on women to share their stories. NPR,

1451
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 2: like other news organizations, reached out to her. She told

1452
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 2: us that she'd had an affair with Alexi, but had

1453
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 2: remained friends with him and tell the stories about the

1454
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: sexual behavior surface in this statement. Alexi denounced Dremosis, but

1455
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: before that, NPR began interviewing the women. She referred to us,

1456
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 2: that's how you fucked up. It's a lies that goddamn

1457
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: life on the pit of hell. All right, well, let

1458
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: us talk to these other seven women. Oh shit, more

1459
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 2: of one of them came out. Oh god, now, y'all

1460
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 2: is the women are? Some of the women are telling

1461
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: the truth. It's a story about power and abuse of power,

1462
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: said Jeanine Walker, one of the three women who came

1463
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 2: forward on the record and whose stories nprs corroborated with

1464
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 2: several sources. And all ten women spoke to NPR about Alexi,

1465
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 2: who was a married man. Here's another part of this shit.

1466
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 2: That's wow. You still have people that call these people liars.

1467
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 2: NPR is not reporting this if they can't do their

1468
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: fucking research to verify these sources, not NPR, like like

1469
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,839
Speaker 2: a lot of these articles we read like we actually

1470
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: have proof that someone tried to make a false report

1471
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 2: and as a prank and was immediately out of this,

1472
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: Like these motherfuckers are line. We couldn't verify any of this,

1473
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 2: And the whole reason they tried to do that was

1474
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 2: to be like, look at us, we're proving that the

1475
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: media is making up these stories about men trying to

1476
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 2: vilify them. Dog. They couldn't even get past the fucking

1477
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 2: outlet they were trying to fool, Like you're you set

1478
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: out to get a fake story printed so you could

1479
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 2: be like, ha ha, we made that story up. See

1480
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 2: all the stories I made up. We're just crediting all

1481
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 2: the women. You couldn't even get your fake story in.

1482
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 2: They're not reporting anything because they know that they're fucking

1483
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 2: held to standards of libel and slander and they don't

1484
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 2: want to go to court and be like, well we

1485
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 2: just reported this just because you know, like they're gonna

1486
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 2: show their working in stories like no, we talked to

1487
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 2: this person, that person they told us on this day

1488
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 2: this shit happened. This other person said they were a witness.

1489
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 2: Cordy verified it. They were there, like, what the fuck?

1490
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 2: Here are the text messages? The screenshots come on in

1491
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: the age of receipts, dog In the age of receipts,

1492
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: people still try and do this anyway. Most of the

1493
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 2: women wanted to remain anonymous, but a clear pattern emerged.

1494
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: The women reported behavior ranging from inappropriate comments both in

1495
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 2: private and in public, to flirting that veered suddenly into

1496
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 2: sexual territory, unwanted sexual advances, and get sensual sexual relations

1497
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: that ended abruptly. So you ghosted some women. That's another

1498
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 2: way to get your ass Like he's just being a creep.

1499
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 2: It's just funny, because being a creep now is enough

1500
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: to get your ass on blasts.

1501
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: But men underestimate how many are y'all motherfuckers that goddamn creeps,

1502
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: And women have to deal with creepy people all the time,

1503
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: and creepy people turn into abusers, turn into doing all

1504
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: these fucked up behaviors, and I don't got the time

1505
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: to tell them between a normal regulass creepy dude and

1506
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 1: the abuser, So you're all going the same category. I

1507
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 1: don't have time to shake it all out.

1508
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: Well, there's also where a lot of people try to

1509
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 2: run away from the Me Too movement. Shit's because it's like, oh, so,

1510
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 2: y'all just throwing the creeps in with the rapists. There's

1511
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 2: a difference, everybody knows the difference. But your creepy ass

1512
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 2: is still fucking up the workplace for women. So guess

1513
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: what you go in the pot of this whole movement

1514
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 2: which is about fucking up people's lives on the basis

1515
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 2: of you know, sexual harassments, discrimination and things of this nature.

1516
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 2: It all counts. Does it mean that you're going to jail.

1517
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: Does it mean that they're trying to put you in

1518
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: prison like Harvey Wanstein. No, there's a difference between the

1519
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: people that they're trying to get like criminally prosecuted, and

1520
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: the people that they're saying, this person's behavior is trash,

1521
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: it needs to change or they need to go. The

1522
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: fact that people try to act like that's not a

1523
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: distinction being made is really scary because I've known some

1524
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 2: quote unquote well meaning people that act like there's no

1525
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: distinction between James Franco needs to change his behavior and

1526
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 2: fucking Harvey Wonstein needs to go to prison. Anyway. The

1527
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 2: women said Alexi had traded on his liter literary credible celebrity.

1528
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,919
Speaker 2: I'm sorry celebrity to lure them in the uncomfortable sexual situation.

1529
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 2: Of course, I was really excited. I mean, Sherman Alexi,

1530
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 2: he's interested in my poems. Walker said, she's a poet

1531
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 2: and the teacher who was managing the writers in school

1532
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: program in Seattle when she arranged to have Alexi visited classroom.

1533
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: After what Alexi said, he had checked out her poetry

1534
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 2: online asked her to send him a manuscript. Alexi never

1535
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: got back to her on the poems, but they did

1536
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: become friendly. Walker says it was strictly platonic. One day,

1537
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 2: they met to play basketball at the court in his

1538
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: office building. Afterward, Walker went to change her closing a

1539
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 2: restaurant in his office. When I turned around, he was

1540
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 2: right behind me and just like physically very much in

1541
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 2: my space and leaned toward me and said, can I

1542
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:26,440
Speaker 2: kiss you? This single? He thought I was loving basketball,

1543
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 2: played me for your heart? I said no, and I

1544
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 2: backed away. He kept moving forward and I was like

1545
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: laughing and smiling and sweaty and whatever, and he said,

1546
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 2: it's just we were playing basketball. You remind me of

1547
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: the girlfriends I had in high school. And I just said, well,

1548
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 2: we're not in high school sherman. Alexi later apologized, and

1549
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 2: Walker said she stayed in touch with him for a while.

1550
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 2: She sent him her poems again, but never got anything

1551
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: back but a quick comment and a promise of more

1552
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 2: to come. She says, Alexi is a big deal in

1553
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,600
Speaker 2: her hometown Seattle, and he's connected to the organization I

1554
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 2: worked for. And if he had never expressed any interest

1555
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 2: in my poems, I probably wouldn't have pursued at any

1556
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 2: time with him. But he did express an interest, and

1557
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 2: so then when I discovered that interest is actually physical,

1558
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 2: it just felt wrong.

1559
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: Oh, baby, he wan't nothing to do with honey, right, Erica?

1560
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, now, you don't see tune twice and

1561
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: you got zero results? Right? He not interesting?

1562
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 2: Erica Worth was a twenty two year old aspiring writer

1563
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 2: when she first met Alexi. As a Native American, he

1564
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 2: was a hero to her, and she hoped he might

1565
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 2: become a mentor. You know, I don't. I guess it's

1566
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: just it's not a thing I've ever been into mentoring

1567
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 2: or being mentored, So I think, uh, but I think

1568
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people do push this down on people

1569
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 2: like you need to find a mentor. You need to

1570
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 2: get with a mentor. You need to you need to

1571
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,919
Speaker 2: mentor people. That's your responsibility. And you know, as a

1572
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 2: introvert and a loner, I'm kind of like, I'm not

1573
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 2: doing any of that shit, and I definitely don't want

1574
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:54,719
Speaker 2: to be responsible to some niggas. But it's interesting how

1575
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 2: much that is rife with abuse and many of these

1576
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 2: stories he cover, Oh he offered to mentor me, or

1577
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: I thought he would be a mentor, and it's like

1578
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 2: a mentor, this dick, you know, like it's no like

1579
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 2: like like it's a power. It's already a power structure

1580
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 2: right right there to be like and now I can

1581
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: abuse you. And meanwhile, I may not be giving you anything,

1582
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,839
Speaker 2: you know, some advice you can get for free on Google,

1583
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 2: something that I could have emailed you and told you like, oh,

1584
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: just ask this person try this thing correct. And instead

1585
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 2: I'm over here, like come to my hotel room. And

1586
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 2: you're in a bad situation now because it's like I

1587
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 2: don't want to pisch this dude off. That's a big

1588
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 2: deal in my industry, but clearly in Black Bond, right,

1589
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: but clearly he's not about that shit at any rate. Uh, yeah.

1590
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 2: After a year after that first meeting, she he suggested

1591
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 2: that she come to one of his readings in Colorado.

1592
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 2: She went after heard they walked back to it. She

1593
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 2: walked back to his hotel with him. After chatting and

1594
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: the lobby, she started to leave, and he jumps over

1595
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 2: the coffee table and begins trying to kiss me. And

1596
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 2: I went into a state of non reality. I had

1597
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 2: almost no sexual experience. I couldn't believe it. And he's

1598
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 2: come to my room. She did, and ended up in

1599
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 2: his bed. He's kind of taking my clothes off and

1600
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 2: kissing me, and I'm kind of like stock, still trying

1601
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: to convince myself this is okay. It's not working, and

1602
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: eventually I say, because I'm kind of scared of the situation,

1603
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm a virgin. But it got really weird because then

1604
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 2: he was still trying to work me over and I'm

1605
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 2: just stock still. And I think at that point, in

1606
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 2: my opinion, he realized that if he wanted to have

1607
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 2: sex with me, he would have to violate me and

1608
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,799
Speaker 2: he'd have to rape me, so and then he stopped.

1609
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 2: Worth said she stayed in touch with Alexi, hoping he

1610
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 2: will still be her mentor or at least apologized.

1611
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,560
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna just get that clothes your baby. Sometimes you

1612
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: gotta let shit go.

1613
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 2: Several years later, they had a second sexual encounter, which

1614
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 2: also ended badly. Eventually, he did give her a positive

1615
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 2: quote for her first book and a letter of recommendation,

1616
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,839
Speaker 2: what she now thinks was to keep her quiet. Correct

1617
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 2: their relationship became contentious after a series of angry emails,

1618
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 2: Worth decided to cut tires with him, disillusion by the

1619
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: way he treated her, never admitting the way he done,

1620
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 2: never apologized, and I just was like, I don't ever

1621
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 2: want to be around this guy again. He's poisonous. He's

1622
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: not okay, yeah, that's the other thing. He's married too,

1623
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 2: So in his mind, all this shit is illicit and wrong,

1624
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So he's like, I'm throwing

1625
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: these bitches away to cover up the evidence as soon

1626
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 2: as possible, you know.

1627
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: Either way, Like, there not human beings with feelings and emotions.

1628
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 2: I guarantee you that's that's the thought process. It's like,

1629
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 2: how do I get rid of this bitch? That's it.

1630
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 2: He's not thinking like, oh, well, you know what, you're

1631
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 2: a wonderful person. I really love your work. I see

1632
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 2: you as a full human being. That's all the act.

1633
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 2: And then the second shit gets unconvenient, inconvenient, you back

1634
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 2: the bitch. I gotta get this bitch out of here.

1635
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 2: It's crazy, you know, like it's no you can tell

1636
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 2: you can tell them the treatment like it just goes

1637
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 2: straight from to covering up my tracks, like dude's a

1638
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 2: piece of shit. Alexi has enormous influence on the careers

1639
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: of Native American writers, and worth worries about what he

1640
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 2: may say about her the others in the business. So

1641
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: does a listen while shutter. She made Alexi when she

1642
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 2: was getting ready to publish her first book and she

1643
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 2: was hoping that he could help her with it. She

1644
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 2: went out one night with a group of people that

1645
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: included Alexi. He was chatting with him. She was chatting

1646
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 2: with him, seemingly apropos of nothing meaning related to nothing.

1647
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 2: Sherman told me that he could have sex with me

1648
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 2: if he wanted to, but he used a stronger word

1649
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 2: beginning with F. So he said I can fuck you

1650
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 2: if I wanted to, And she said he didn't say

1651
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: it quietly, he had not whispered it it. Seeing that

1652
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: the men we were talking to could have heard it.

1653
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that somebody would say something like that.

1654
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 2: So this was in the public setting, with other people around,

1655
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: this older man who I didn't know, who was much

1656
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 2: more powerful than me. Well Shoota says that although she

1657
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 2: was worried that the other men who were there with them,

1658
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 2: all part of the local literary scene, had heard Alexi,

1659
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 2: she didn't have a nerve to say anything about the time.

1660
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: I felt I really needed his approval and I needed

1661
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: his help in order to get this book off the ground,

1662
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: And so as uncomfortable as I was, I felt I

1663
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 2: could laugh off that comment in a way, but I

1664
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:58,560
Speaker 2: still felt that he had so much power that I

1665
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 2: should probably not make a fuss about this. Eventually they

1666
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 2: became colleagues at the Institute of American Indian Arts. They

1667
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 2: got a loan, but she says that once on a

1668
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 2: work trip to Santa Fe, tried to lure her to

1669
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: his hotel room. Later, they had a disagreement over an

1670
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 2: essay of hers. Alexi applied she had plagiarized his work.

1671
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,759
Speaker 2: Well Shooter became fearful that he would ruin her career.

1672
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 2: Well she got another job. She decided to cut ties

1673
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 2: to the Institute because Alexi was a powerful member of

1674
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: the faculty. I think we did some really good work there,

1675
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: and I'm sure they continue to do really good work there,

1676
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 2: but I'm not a part of it, and that feels

1677
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 2: so lonely. I'm incredibly sad about it. All allegations against

1678
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 2: him began to surface, I mean, as they began to surface,

1679
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 2: the institute changed the name of its Sherman Alexi Scholarship

1680
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 2: to the MFA Alumni Scholarship. Alexi has not responded to

1681
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 2: our multiple eFORS to contact him, and it is clear

1682
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 2: from his statement that he is angry at Lisa Dromosis,

1683
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 2: whose tweets prompted these women to come forward. But if

1684
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: Alexi is angry saw all these women, which is why

1685
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 2: they're willing to talk, come on dog yep. So all right,

1686
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 2: there you go. Even in the young adult novel world,

1687
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 2: it's still somebody out there trying to slang dick, all right.

1688
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 1: And somebody in the chapmom was saying that the lot

1689
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 1: of these targeted and women were Native Americans.

1690
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 2: Or another like marginalized group. By the way, that's that's

1691
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 2: kind of how this me too shit is happening. Is

1692
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 2: more and more groups that aren't these white actresses are

1693
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 2: coming out and it's and it's really important though correct,

1694
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,719
Speaker 2: but it's telling at the same time that three, four

1695
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: or five, six months later you get groups of women

1696
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 2: who feel less powerful, less coveted, and have less of

1697
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: a platform coming out being like me too.

1698
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: And these are only the ones that came out. I

1699
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 1: can't even imagine the ones with like I'm not saying.

1700
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 2: Shit right, such as aging American women in Hollywood says

1701
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: twice as hard for them to save me too, you know,

1702
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 2: and that's a whole for you think on that too,

1703
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 2: like Yeah. After years of writing for theater, Marissa ron

1704
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 2: Tetroon has overjoyed was overjoyed when she sold the film

1705
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 2: script to a studio in two thousand and one. She

1706
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 2: had been paired with an executive who provided her with

1707
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 2: some constructive notes, first over the phone and then over dinner,

1708
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 2: where he began to acquire by her dating life. Their

1709
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 2: working relationship took a turn a week later, with the

1710
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 2: fledgling writer received the email from the executive, sent to

1711
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,759
Speaker 2: her at two in the morning. The subject lie read

1712
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 2: is this you? And the body of the email was

1713
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 2: an explicit photo of an agent porn star engaged in

1714
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 2: sexual acts. It's funny because I can't even imagine this

1715
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 2: as a dude.

1716
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 1: Can't even imagine that.

1717
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine having like I can imagine having

1718
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 2: a business community, like, Hey, this is a this is

1719
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 2: the idea I have. Okay, let's have a meeting. Hey, hey, man,

1720
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 2: let's go to dinner and talk about it. All right? Cool?

1721
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 2: Two in the morning, I gave a picture of like,

1722
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 2: is this you over here sucking his dick? What? Man?

1723
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do with that?

1724
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 1: What am I right?

1725
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do with this? I'm so

1726
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 2: just call you tomorrow act like the oh well, good

1727
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 2: meeting yesterday. Everything's cool. Needless to say, my big break

1728
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 2: was completely taken away from me, she told BuzzFeed News.

1729
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 2: Of course, I took all the appropriate steps at the

1730
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 2: email to my reps, but that would never that will

1731
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 2: forever be what I remember about getting one of my

1732
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 2: first jobs today. She's the co creator showrunner of Marvels

1733
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 2: Agency Shield on ABC Wow, a role seldom afforded to women,

1734
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 2: let alone Asian American women in Hollywood. The fact that

1735
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,719
Speaker 2: I am in this position of running a TV show

1736
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 2: that this is a very rare thing is not lost

1737
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 2: on me at all. She said. It took her years

1738
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 2: to get to where she is today, and along the

1739
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 2: way she encountered the slower barriers. But over time, she says,

1740
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 2: you learn how to work through the system. For her,

1741
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 2: that meant downplaying inappropriate and uncomfortable behavior at work. It's

1742
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 2: something we need to do to play well with others

1743
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 2: to work and succeed. For others, it means keep it

1744
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 2: quiet in the face and sexual harassment. We almost had

1745
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 2: to break. Let me go to the next session, guys. Okay,

1746
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 2: I'll bring us right back on the air. But yeah,

1747
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 2: I mean, she's an Asian American actress and obviously, you know,

1748
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 2: model minority myths and all that shit aside, she still

1749
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 2: felt more uncomfortable then. I'm sure many white actresses coming

1750
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 2: forward to saying this shit. Come on, you know, like

1751
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 2: she's a woman in power, which is probably the only

1752
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 2: reason she can say shit now. Correct, Like she already

1753
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 2: proven I can run this show, and it's a popular show,

1754
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 2: and it's a major show, so I can say this now.

1755
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 2: But how many people just like I can't say nothing

1756
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 2: right now? I'm not in a position to do this

1757
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 2: spurred on by the barage the sexual harassment and saw

1758
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 2: allegations against Harvey Weinstein. Scores of people in Hollywood have

1759
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 2: come forward with similar accusations against other former figures in

1760
01:33:56,920 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 2: the entertainment industry. In January twenty eighteen, hundreds of powerful

1761
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 2: women announced the Exception the Times Up as an initiative

1762
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 2: working the combat sexual misconduct and workplace across the nation.

1763
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 2: Yet Asian Americans in Alley would have remained noticeably quiet

1764
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 2: on the whole. Of those who have come forward, the

1765
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 2: most recognizable figure has been Olivia Mund, who accused producer

1766
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 2: Brett Ratner of masturbating in front of her on the

1767
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 2: film set in two thousand and four. Mund did not

1768
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 2: respond to BuzzFeed BuzzFeed News requests for interviews. Producers and

1769
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 2: actors who spoke to busfeed News said they believe the

1770
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 2: fear of retribution hinders Asian American women from exposing abusers

1771
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 2: in the industry that has been historically hostile to them.

1772
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 2: I feel like we are raised to be hard working

1773
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 2: and for lack of a better word, quiet with the

1774
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 2: idea of being our hard work at the end of

1775
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 2: the day is gonna pay off, said Jess Calder, who

1776
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 2: produced the twenty eighteen comedic drama Blind Spotting, told she

1777
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,799
Speaker 2: told BuzzFeed News in a joint interview with actor Janina

1778
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 2: Gavon Carr, that's universal, not just culturally though, because obviously

1779
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,600
Speaker 2: culture doesn't extra extra element to cultures with women of

1780
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 2: color in it. But that shut the fuck up, work hard.

1781
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 2: Pretty Much everybody that's a white not a white man,

1782
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 2: has been told that. Come on, like you're gonna rock

1783
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 2: the boat and you're not gonna get what what you

1784
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 2: what you are worth if you tell people how you're

1785
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 2: being treated. That's basically what we passed down to everybody.

1786
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 2: And then when you triple that down with your woman,

1787
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 2: triple that down with your your culture culturally, you know,

1788
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 2: the things that we put on women, it could be

1789
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 2: a head trip. Calder, who says she is often the

1790
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,480
Speaker 2: only Asian American in the room, has oftentimes felt uncomfortable

1791
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 2: speaking up at work because I was raised to feel

1792
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 2: like I'm lucky to even have a seat at the table,

1793
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 2: Like what am I gonna do?

1794
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 1: Risk it right versus white men. Feel like I have

1795
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: the right to be here, regardless if I earned or

1796
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 1: deserved it.

1797
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 2: H Janet yang A producer told The ninety three ninety

1798
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 2: who was behind the nineteen ninety three Joy Club drama,

1799
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 2: told BuzzFeed News that a paucity of Asian women in

1800
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 2: the industry makes coming forward to with sexual women's conduct

1801
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 2: allegations are lonely in daunting road. There just aren't that

1802
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 2: many in front of the camera Asian women. Ocean's eight

1803
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 2: and Crazy Rich agent star Aquawafina, who last month sign

1804
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 2: Times Up pledged to fight workplace harassment and sexual misconduct,

1805
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 2: expressed a similar notion. The sad truth is that it

1806
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 2: doesn't take a person of color to change things in

1807
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 2: America as it always been. It takes a powerful white

1808
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 2: women to change things in America, she told BuzzFeed News.

1809
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 2: Even the current climbate of Me Too, Aquafina says she

1810
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 2: understands why some women may choose to stay silent. You

1811
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,560
Speaker 2: don't want to speak out because you're not going to

1812
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 2: get invited to the Gold to Globes anymore. You're not

1813
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 2: going to get hired for that movie. While gavon Car

1814
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 2: did not detail you sexual rascent, she pointed out that

1815
01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 2: the indignities Asian American women experience aren't always sexual nature.

1816
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 2: Such was a claim made by actor Charlene Yee, who

1817
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 2: in October tweeted that when she met David Kross, he

1818
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 2: made fun of her pants, and when she looked at

1819
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 2: him dumbstruck, he responded, what's the matter, you don't speak English?

1820
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 2: Ching chon ching John on Twitter cross applied, I'm truly sorry.

1821
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 2: I heard her going to say that you may have

1822
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 2: going on to say, you may have misinterpretated him his

1823
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: impression of a Southern redneck and a kana. A YouTube

1824
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 2: comedian and actor told Buzzby News that often unsolicited touching

1825
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:33,799
Speaker 2: in lou comments its compounded by racist implications. It's almost

1826
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 2: always where are you from? Hey, soy sauce? Oh my god,

1827
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 2: I hear Asian girls are so good in bed? Just

1828
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 2: stereotypical bullshit things, she said, rattling off examples of remarks

1829
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 2: that she's heard over the years as an Asian American woman.

1830
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 2: People view you in this tokenized way. That Asian American

1831
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 2: women have been forced to accept widespread harassment as normal

1832
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 2: may be one of the reasons why even those with

1833
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 2: visibility if job security choose not to share the experiences

1834
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 2: with the public. Y'allic in that in this article, even

1835
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 2: in this article, it's like, well, this is why it's

1836
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 2: fucked up, and this is why I no one's coming forward.

1837
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 2: But even these women aren't coming forward and being like

1838
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 2: and these are the experiences I've had with this shit,

1839
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 2: They just fucked up. Right, It's like it's sad, but

1840
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 2: it's like, even in their way of being like this,

1841
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,799
Speaker 2: the industry is fucked up and we can't come forward.

1842
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 2: None of these women are really telling stories like and

1843
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 2: this is what happened, just more like, this is why

1844
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 2: there's an absence of us talking about what happened, because

1845
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 2: we know we better than I say, shit, correct, Yeah,

1846
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 2: so this is I'm not surprised at all that you know,

1847
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:44,719
Speaker 2: And like I said, we just had that whole story

1848
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 2: with the Native American women that happened to be writers

1849
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 2: in young adult literature, Like that's such a small group

1850
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 2: of people. But that also is one of the reason

1851
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 2: that that dude probably felt I can pray on these

1852
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:57,600
Speaker 2: women what they gonna do?

1853
01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 3: Right?

1854
01:38:58,200 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 1: What power do they have?

1855
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:04,560
Speaker 2: Microsoft reportedly received hundreds of sexual harassment and discrimination complaints.

1856
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 2: They received two hundred and thirty eight internal complaints pertaining

1857
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 2: the sexual arrassment and gender discrimination between twenty ten and

1858
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, and.

1859
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: What did they do about it? Nothing?

1860
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 2: Well, apparently not enough, because there's a lawsuit by the

1861
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 2: female employees going right now, Come on, it was filed

1862
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen. The pseudo legends that women working in

1863
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 2: the US based technical positions at the company were denied

1864
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 2: promotions and or pay raisers because of an internal rating

1865
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:34,679
Speaker 2: system that discriminated against female workers. The Fortune five hundred

1866
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 2: company has publicly denied the women's claims, insisting that out

1867
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 2: of the one hundred and eighteen gender discrimination complaints, only

1868
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:41,799
Speaker 2: one was founded.

1869
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 1: I don't believe.

1870
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 2: That that math DEA's so one hundred and seventeen women

1871
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 2: are just crazy.

1872
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: I guarantee you. The scale is fucked up. They know

1873
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 1: is skewed a certain way and the numbers are used

1874
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 1: a certain way.

1875
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 2: Nobody stupid, Like, get the fuck out of my face.

1876
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 2: One hundred and seventeen women just crazy. That's it. You

1877
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 2: a big ass company, Like, listen all these people. I

1878
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you. I guess bitches be crazy.

1879
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's a good legal defense. I mean yeah,

1880
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: I mean what can we say? Diversity and inclusion are

1881
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 2: critically important to Microsoft. We want employees to speak up

1882
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 2: if they have concerns, and we strive to make it

1883
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 2: easy for them. Do so, do you right? Is that

1884
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 2: what you want? Is that? What?

1885
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 1: Is that? The reason why you got a lawsuit because

1886
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:32,839
Speaker 1: y'all was handling everything?

1887
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 2: Right? Is that what called it? Ninety nine point nine

1888
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 2: percent of the claims unfounded? Is that what you're telling

1889
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:39,520
Speaker 2: that's the message.

1890
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 1: That's the message the same men that is paid to

1891
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: actually look at these things.

1892
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. The company said it's fens about fifty five million

1893
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 2: a lead to promote diversity and inclusion among its seventy

1894
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 2: four thousand US employees. In twenty seventeen, the company also

1895
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 2: eliminated the previously require attribution agreements I mean our arbitration

1896
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 2: agreement sorry for employees who filed sexual harassment complaints. It

1897
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 2: was a move that would theoretically make victims much more

1898
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 2: comfortable speaking out. However, female employees claimed Microsoft made a

1899
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 2: habit of disregarding their reports. Court document state a female

1900
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 2: Microsoft intern raped by male Microsoft intern reported rape to

1901
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 2: the supervisor at HR and yet forced to work alongside

1902
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 2: her accused rapists. With victim told HR she was considering

1903
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 2: obtaining a restraining order. She was informed she would be

1904
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 2: moved off the team, and she did so. Her accused

1905
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 2: rapists offered full time employment at Microsoft. I don't know

1906
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:41,680
Speaker 2: how is that one of the unfounded claims. Probably the

1907
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 2: plainer's lawyers are pursuing a class action lawsuit which could

1908
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 2: cover more than eight thousand women a trial days that

1909
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 2: has not been said yet.

1910
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 1: That sounds about right. Yeah, you got to do right

1911
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 1: by people, and this is this shit. They're trying to stop,

1912
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: these class actions that hold people accountable for fucked up shit.

1913
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's move into some other stuff.

1914
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 1: Guys.

1915
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:08,800
Speaker 2: That was a lot of It's a lot of trash, everybody.

1916
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 2: I understand now, it's a lot. Maybe we can do

1917
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 2: something a little more positive, guys. All right, let's do it.

1918
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 2: Let's try to do some white people news. If that

1919
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 2: works for everyone. I know that that typically cheers you

1920
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 2: guys up right. All right, all right, let me uh

1921
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 2: I always start white people news the same way. Try

1922
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 2: to get us a little Jimmy jam, little diddy, get

1923
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 2: us in appropriate food, uh today being no exception.

1924
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

1925
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 2: Another white person appropriating our music. Mm hmmm. Another one

1926
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 2: of these white classics of a black classic that they

1927
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 2: have now under seasoned, as I like to call it,

1928
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 2: that washed all the season season and off.

1929
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 1: Putting up underneath the scene gifted in the.

1930
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 2: Water made it their arm washed it like a chicken

1931
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 2: in the s.

1932
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 3: Really my sound crazy?

1933
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 4: What I'm about to see?

1934
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 3: Sunshine is here?

1935
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 2: You can take a pay?

1936
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 4: How how have loom? I can go to stay.

1937
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: With them now?

1938
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:31,600
Speaker 4: I had home? Call baby about.

1939
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 3: The way cool sun coming along?

1940
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 4: If you feel lack of cool down.

1941
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 2: The roof because I'm happy, help me on you feel

1942
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 2: like having the sale.

1943
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 3: You because I'm happy every all.

1944
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 4: If you know what han't in me and you're coming along.

1945
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 4: If you feel that what you want to do, you

1946
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 4: come on the now.

1947
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 3: Doverments bad the.

1948
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:11,759
Speaker 4: Rumor kill me all you got?

1949
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 3: Don't you run it back?

1950
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 1: Matther I scrowl a won you up to.

1951
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 3: Juice fine and.

1952
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 2: Go fast to you.

1953
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 3: Don't you waste your time here?

1954
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 1: Why?

1955
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 4: Because I'm happy?

1956
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: Havn't know if you feel that room and down room

1957
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: ye happy?

1958
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:45,600
Speaker 4: Know if you feel that happen with see you never know?

1959
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 2: If you guys, whatever.

1960
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 4: Is mean, you never know. If you know that that's what.

1961
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 1: You want, you come on.

1962
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 3: Reman down and bring me down level, bring me down

1963
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 3: and killing none there bring me down on my level,

1964
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 3: champing on.

1965
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 4: Cat down.

1966
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 3: Down.

1967
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 2: I feel like you hate none the song? Can you

1968
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 2: love the song? I thought you loved the song?

1969
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 1: The original version?

1970
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 2: Wow? You see what I gotta deal with over here?

1971
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 1: Guys, acoustic guitar version.

1972
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 2: Negroes will never be happy with anything?

1973
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 1: I sure won't.

1974
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 2: Then, do I swear being cartoons?

1975
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 1: I got high standards.

1976
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 2: Well, let's get to some delightful, rightful news. Okay, guys,

1977
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 2: Michael Sarah may have married his mystery girlfriend. Oh shit, yes, right, y'all.

1978
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 1: Apparently she's still a mystery. They don't even know a name,

1979
01:45:59,000 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 1: because you're a mystery in that.

1980
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 2: Article, Michael, sayah, and they don't even know if she

1981
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:03,759
Speaker 2: got married?

1982
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 1: Right?

1983
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 2: Does she exist? In right? Is she?

1984
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 1: Is she a robot? What's happening here?

1985
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 2: The rest of development alone was spotted in Brooklyn on

1986
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 2: Sunday wearing a wedding band and a longtime girlfriend Nadine.

1987
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 2: He was wearing what wearing a wedding man with a

1988
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:26,599
Speaker 2: with a wedding man and oh with a wedding man? Okay,

1989
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 2: all right cool. The couple, who have kept their relationship

1990
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 2: private secretly were a source told Us Weekly, but it's

1991
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 2: unclear where the actor. The actor's agent declined the comment

1992
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 2: when reached by The Daily News. Sarah's kept his personal

1993
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 2: life under wraps by Scott Pilgrin Versus The World. Co

1994
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:48,160
Speaker 2: star Alverge Pliza revealed in this November twenty sixteen that

1995
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 2: they dated for almost a year and a half and

1996
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 2: almost eloped. We drove across the country after we shot

1997
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 2: that movie and almost got married in Vegas, she said

1998
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 2: during the interview on Rue Paul and Michelle visa Just podcast.

1999
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 2: What's the tea? No, the other one, the other tea.

2000
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 2: Sarah is currently starring on Broadway with Chris Evans in

2001
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 2: Lobby Hero. So there, you guys, go, Michael Sarah out

2002
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 2: here secretly getting wed. Uh. Fox News host Jesse Waters

2003
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 2: is in a divorce fight after cheating on his wife

2004
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: with a twenty five year old employee. All the tea,

2005
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 2: all that Fox News tea.

2006
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,879
Speaker 1: All that Rosemary teeth, that green tea.

2007
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 2: All that sugarlest Earl Gray tea. Come on, He's in

2008
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 2: hot waters with the missus now. Jesse Waters, thirty nine,

2009
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 2: is in the midst of a divorce fight with his

2010
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 2: wife of nine years Noel after admitting to an affair

2011
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 2: with his twenty five year old associate producer, Emma dig Elvin,

2012
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 2: the up and coming Fox News star who just letted

2013
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 2: his own show last year, told the Boss was about

2014
01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 2: the affair. Shortly after Noel file for divorce. Boy, they

2015
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 2: got some messing messing men's over the ad Fox News.

2016
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: Come on.

2017
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess they mess it everywhere, but I

2018
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 2: mean in an environment where you're basically say, women ain't shit.

2019
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you expect these motherfucking white men.

2020
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:14,480
Speaker 1: What do you expect?

2021
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 2: Like, of course they're sucking the help of course.

2022
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 1: Standards? Who has those?

2023
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 2: D o Javine the geo Vine was transferred to work

2024
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 2: from the Ingraham angle, but she and Waters had continued

2025
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 2: to date.

2026
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

2027
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 2: That's him and his wife, Noel. And then that's the

2028
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 2: twenty five year old associate producer down here. Oh yes, Oh,

2029
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 2: his wife never had a.

2030
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 1: Chance cutn't past. Yes, she's a younger version of her. Yeah,

2031
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: with darker hair. You known upgraded. Here's him with Donald

2032
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:56,960
Speaker 1: Trump the two thumbs up his role model.

2033
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 2: Within twenty four hours of Jesse Water's voluntarily reported to

2034
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 2: the chief of Human Resources on November twenty seventeen that

2035
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 2: he was in a consensual relationship with a woman on

2036
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 2: his staff. Management met with both parties and the decision

2037
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 2: was made for the woman to be transferred to work

2038
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,879
Speaker 2: on another program on the network, which she currently remains.

2039
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 1: Oh so in this instance, we can get a transfer, right, right,

2040
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 1: we transferm the woman out? Okay?

2041
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he had an affair with her. Water's married?

2042
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 2: Noel iguall yeah, tato, I don't know. In two thousand

2043
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 2: and nine they also met on the job at Fox News. Well,

2044
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 2: I guess Tavis Smiley has a point. If they can

2045
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 2: do it Fox, he does not. Fox News is the

2046
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 2: gold standard careen and if you can fuck your health,

2047
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 2: you can fuck your coworkers at Fox.

2048
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 1: Dus the world is too big, more sociable.

2049
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 2: Where else he supposed to find women If he can't do.

2050
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: It at find them a lot of places.

2051
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 2: If he can't go to Bell no chairs for some women,

2052
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 2: where he's supposed to go caring.

2053
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but there's more places than better.

2054
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:54,639
Speaker 4: No chance.

2055
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 2: He was working at for Fox for Bill O'Reilly show.

2056
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's a special. She was working for the advertising

2057
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 2: and Promotions department. Was the hose of a webshow called

2058
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 2: Imax Style. In twenty eleven, the couple had a pair

2059
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 2: of twin daughters. Noel never returned from maternity leave, while

2060
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 2: Waters star rose at Fox News. Oh I know she

2061
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 2: regrets that shit every day, right, so she basically quit work.

2062
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:20,839
Speaker 2: Attorneys for both Noel and Jesse Waters did not comment

2063
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 2: on to The Daily News, and a woman at geov

2064
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 2: The g Elvian's New Jersey Hall declined to comment. Known

2065
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 2: for his brash, macho and sometimes of Nazi style, Waters

2066
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 2: hosted a segment on The Rally Factor that combined man

2067
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:39,719
Speaker 2: on the street with ambush journalism. Yeah, it's also not funny,

2068
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:45,520
Speaker 2: right right. It was like, let's go down to Chinatown

2069
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 2: and make fun of Asian people, and that would be

2070
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 2: the whole segment.

2071
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 1: Right, you know, you know nobody thinks this is funny. Right.

2072
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 2: Corner is LinkedIn profile to her LinkedIn profile. Dgo Vine

2073
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 2: becay Water's associate producer in June twenty sixteen when his

2074
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 2: segment was part of O'Reilly's show. Waters humorous approach fell

2075
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,799
Speaker 2: flat at times, such as an October twenty sixteen segment

2076
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 2: filmed in New York City China Town, it was paying,

2077
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 2: it was paying his races after he wondered the street

2078
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 2: asking locals if they knew karate and how often their

2079
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 2: watches were stolen. The segment Waters World was fun out

2080
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 2: onto a weekly show January twenty seventeen. It airs at

2081
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:25,679
Speaker 2: apm on Saturdays, combining human political news in a fresh slant.

2082
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 2: Ain't that right? Ain't that younger? A younger audience? When

2083
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,879
Speaker 2: O'Reilly was ousted for the network in April twenty seventeen

2084
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 2: of a revelations that he'd secretly settled numerous sexual harassment suits,

2085
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:39,679
Speaker 2: Waters also replaced Eric Bowling on the five. Bowling himself

2086
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 2: was ousted in September over sexual harassment allegations. They're playing

2087
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 2: musical sexual harassment chairs, Ain't there come on?

2088
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 1: Like?

2089
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Dog? Waters is said to be a

2090
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 2: favorite cable news personality of President Donald Trump. Well, I

2091
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 2: wonder why he even died with the Command the Chief.

2092
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 2: On Monday, Trump asked Waters and former ad Sebastian Gorka

2093
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 2: to dinner at the White House because he couldn't get

2094
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: enough of them on TV. Trump even signed the menu,

2095
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 2: which Water tweeted a picture of it read to Jesse,

2096
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:20,639
Speaker 2: you are great trash. But yeah, they out here shaking

2097
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 2: the shaking the table with those spices on it. We'll

2098
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:31,640
Speaker 2: do one more. Let's see. Joey Lawrence files for bankrupts.

2099
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:36,840
Speaker 2: Repsy Melissa and Joey Starr had sixty dollars in cash

2100
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 2: and eight thousand dollars in the bank. Damn, Joey Lawrence

2101
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 2: fell on some hard times. Mm hmmm. Who is Joey Lawrence?

2102
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 2: Is he Joey from Blossom?

2103
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 1: Is that the same dude? Okay from Blossom?

2104
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 4: WHOA?

2105
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 2: I can't believe I got that right. Joey larns and

2106
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 2: his wife and fouled for the bankruptcy at the plumbing

2107
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 2: it in the debt. According to the Blast which was

2108
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:08,959
Speaker 2: which was published details of the family's died financial situation.

2109
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 2: After the cancelation of Melissa and Joey Lawrence's income plummeted.

2110
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 2: He made five hundred and thirty four thousand dollars in

2111
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, but only fifty eight thousand the following year.

2112
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,800
Speaker 2: He claims he currently teen dollars in cash and eight

2113
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 2: thousand in the bank. The actor Apoorly earns between four

2114
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 2: thousand and six thousand a month a start. Contrast from

2115
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 2: the five hundred thousand salary he made while employed by

2116
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 2: ABC Family now called free Form. The network canceled Melissa

2117
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 2: and Joey, which co starred Melissa Joan Hart in twenty fifteen.

2118
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 2: At the five seasons with the two young children at home.

2119
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 2: Lawrence notes in his bankruptcy paperwork that family expensis leave

2120
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 2: them eighteen thousand dollars in debt each month. He and

2121
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 2: his wife, who is employed, have taken unemployed. Yeah, why

2122
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:53,640
Speaker 2: would that be news? Of course he's not employed, have

2123
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 2: taken to selling their possessions on eBay at a thrift

2124
01:53:57,080 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 2: store at at a thrift store called Buffalo Exhange. Damn,

2125
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 2: they're going to the thrift store of eBay, am I.

2126
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 2: Among the debts are eighty eight thousand dollars in back taxes,

2127
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty two thousand in credit card debt

2128
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 2: at almost one hundred thousand dollars for automobile. The family

2129
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 2: three cars have been over repos asked M. They're gonna

2130
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 2: have to itself up out of bootstraps, all right, So

2131
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and get to some soord ratchiness and

2132
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 2: get out of here. You guys can hear the doorbell.

2133
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 2: Amazon is here all right, And I was like, what,

2134
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 2: who we need a doorbell? I have time for this ship,

2135
01:54:37,040 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 2: no more, I have boxes to open. A Hagar's town

2136
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 2: Man is held in a sword attack. M hagar'stown Man

2137
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 2: was being held on Monday on twenty five thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: bord on charges he assorted a man with a sword.

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Speaker 2: Michael Edward O'Neill, twenty sixth of North Cleveland Avenue, Guess

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Speaker 2: the Race Black, was charged with first and second degree assault,

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Speaker 2: regular engagement, and theft for the incident. It happened at

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Speaker 2: one forty seven am on Sunday. Police went to an

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Speaker 2: apartment where a man with a cut above his eyes

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Speaker 2: said he had been attacked with his own sword by O'Neill.

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Speaker 2: The man told police he and O'Neill. He O'Neill and

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Speaker 2: O'Neill's girlfriend were in his apartment drinking when O'Neill began

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Speaker 2: arguing with the woman. The charging document said O'Neill was

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Speaker 2: beating the woman and tried to drag her down the

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Speaker 2: apartment by his feet when the man intervened. The girlfriend

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Speaker 2: told police O'Neill hit her with a folding chair doing that,

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Speaker 2: so got what the w W? Shit was going on.

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Speaker 2: What's who has a folding chair just sitting around their house?

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Speaker 2: There's so many questions.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready at all times. That's my folding trill.

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Speaker 2: O'Neill got on the top rope and grabbed the sword.

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Speaker 2: He removed it from a scabbard and struck the man.

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Speaker 2: Hearing the commotion, the neighbor entered the department the apartment

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Speaker 2: and saw o'nil holding the sword against the head of

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Speaker 2: the man who was lying on the floor. O'Neill left

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Speaker 2: the apartment with the sword, the man's cell phone, several

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Speaker 2: cans of beer, and a bottle of vodka for the

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Speaker 2: man's refrigerator. And that's why they had to call again.

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Speaker 2: He took the alcohol. An officer took the woman back

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Speaker 2: to the apartment she shared with O'Neill and found him there.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: O'Neill was initially uncooperative with the police officers. UH. He

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Speaker 2: went with hands on and forced him why is this

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Speaker 2: article moving? What the fuck? They went hands on and

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Speaker 2: hands on and forced his arms behind his back to

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Speaker 2: place him in handcuffs. O'Neill continued to be uncooperative at

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Speaker 2: central book and screaming at the top of his lungs,

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Speaker 2: banging on doors, and covering surveillance cameras with toilet paper.

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Speaker 2: O'Neill had to be restrained the pepper spray when he

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Speaker 2: resisted being handcuffed at the facility ship. Yeah, the nigga

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Speaker 2: had an entire fucking episode. All right, guys, we'll be

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow with more of whatever. This is. Me and

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Speaker 2: BOSSI planning on doing this too much on Tuesday. I'll

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Speaker 2: let you guys know the time when I know it,

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Speaker 2: and that this is the finale of the season. It's

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Speaker 2: not really like pressing that we have to do it immediately,

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Speaker 2: but we are gonna do it. Tuesday is the plan

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Speaker 2: for right now, So until then, I love you, h