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Speaker 1: Welcome to huddle up by the field Total Brooks, Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former Jaguar

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P. Shaddrick or you

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Speaker 1: a little latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars huddle up starts

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome into huddle up with Bucky Brooks and Bucky.

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Speaker 2: This is a skeleton day around the Jaguars, uh No.

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Speaker 2: JP Shadrick and amazingly a skeleton staff around the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of managing going on around here today, Buck,

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Speaker 2: A lot of Yeah, was already already.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're already on things given holidays, people are already

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Speaker 3: sizing up how they're gonna attack the meals for tomorrow

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Speaker 3: and those things. I get it, you know, I understand

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Speaker 3: what it is. But we're gonna make it work anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be Uh, it's gonna be good. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna take a look today at Jaguars, Cardinals, Jaguars Titans

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Speaker 2: coming up Sunday and the AOC South Race, which is

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Speaker 2: interesting for the Jaguars for the first time in a

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Speaker 2: couple of years. So Buck the other day a little ahead,

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Speaker 2: but before we get into the meat of Arizona. Talk

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Speaker 2: about this team very quickly before we go to the

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Speaker 2: first break, and just where you think they are, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean. Look, I'm pleasantly surprised and impressed

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Speaker 3: with this team. I'm really impressed with the leadership of

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Speaker 3: the team, not only the players, but really the coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: I think they do a really good job Liam Coleman

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Speaker 3: and staff of telling the team exactly what it is.

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Speaker 3: And at a time where people like the sugarcoat things,

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Speaker 3: I think their direct, transparent approach really resonates with this

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Speaker 3: group of players. And at the end of the game,

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Speaker 3: I thought it was very telling where you talked about

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Speaker 3: not apologizing for wins, because there's a perception that when

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Speaker 3: you play a team that has a dismal record like

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Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals, that you're gonna walk in the stadium

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna hang fifty on them walk out like

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Speaker 3: you see in college. But the NFL doesn't work like that.

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Speaker 3: Most games are decided about eight points of fewer. The

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Speaker 3: league's kind of set up the thing where it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a fourth quarter fair and you know you can

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Speaker 3: win by one score maybe two at the most but

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Speaker 3: it's rare that you see blowouts, and so in these games,

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Speaker 3: we as fans, we as people with the team, we

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Speaker 3: have to be prepared for these knockdown, drag out battles,

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Speaker 3: regardless of whom you're playing, and I think this was

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Speaker 3: great preparation for some of the other things that are

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Speaker 3: gonna come on the schedule down the line. You just

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Speaker 3: got to get ready to play, and all you want

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Speaker 3: to do is be one point better than the opponent

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Speaker 3: each and every week.

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Speaker 2: All right, Buck, they sent a boy to do a

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Speaker 2: man's job.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to a break obviously, but the first

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Speaker 2: read it's in to reads around here, Bucky. The first

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Speaker 2: read is Huddle up with Bucky Brooks is brought to

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Speaker 2: all right, all right, we're back on track now. Last

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Speaker 2: look at the Jaguars twenty seven to twenty four victory. Bucky.

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Speaker 2: I thought, as you just mentioned, in the NFL, you

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Speaker 2: build seasons on this sort of a game. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a couple of blowouts, and then I've always thought

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have six or seven games that could be

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Speaker 2: decided and go either way. How you fare in those

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Speaker 2: is how your season is going to be perceived. If

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Speaker 2: you're good in those, you're eleven and seven. If you're

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Speaker 2: bad in those, you're six and eleven or eleven and six.

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Speaker 2: What struck you the most about Sunday's game, You know.

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Speaker 3: John, i'ma be honest with you when it comes to

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Speaker 3: those things. Is the reason why we keep track of

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Speaker 3: one score games and what people team's records are in

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Speaker 3: those games, because the league is really decided by the

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Speaker 3: teams that can execute in those high pressure moments when

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Speaker 3: you have to close out games and do this. I

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Speaker 3: think there's a lot of maturity that was displayed from

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars in this game. Look, the stats are till

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Speaker 3: you when you have a minus for turnover differential when

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars were able to overcome that speaks to their

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Speaker 3: It wasn't pretty, but man, it was definitely a gritty effort.

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Speaker 3: Defense stood up and made plays when they needed to.

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Speaker 3: Make The offense was inconsistent for most of the day,

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Speaker 3: but whenever their backs were against the wall, they found

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Speaker 3: just get the dub. Look, man, I think a lesser team,

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Speaker 3: a team without the mental fortitude and toughness, would have

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Speaker 3: given that game away. And look, man, there's been so

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Speaker 3: many versions of Jaguars teams that would have found a

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Speaker 3: to who the Jaguars are and who they want to

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Speaker 2: Look the storyline obviously, three picks and three interceptions, I mean,

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Speaker 2: and three touchdowns with Trevor, and like, we can get

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Speaker 2: into the stats and the details of the game all

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Speaker 2: you want, I'll talk you about Trevor. Bucky to me,

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Speaker 2: we're spending all this time this season, and understandably so

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Speaker 2: on the flaws and on the interceptions and what he

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Speaker 2: hasn't been. And I guess I've kind of gone back

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Speaker 2: and in writing about it. The good stuff counts to Bucky.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's the three touchdowns, the run against Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: the gutty performance against the Raiders when he was sick.

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody keeps telling me, hey, we know what

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Speaker 2: he is and then pointing at the flaws. Well, maybe

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Speaker 2: we know what he is. And the fact that they're

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Speaker 2: big moments. Doesn't that count?

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Speaker 3: It does count. And look, I'm gonna say this, and

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Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen a maturation from Trevor being

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Speaker 3: Like I think one we have to understand that Trevor's

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Speaker 3: being encouraged by a head coach who's the offensive play

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Speaker 3: likely heard a take care of the ball, ball securities, everything,

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Speaker 3: manage the game. You don't have to force plays, you

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Speaker 3: don't necessarily be the game changer. Liam Cohn is trying

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Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford has become. Now. He's not as I would

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Speaker 3: But this thing about Matthew Stafford and Detroit, the losses,

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Speaker 3: the turnovers and those things has some moxie, has some gumption,

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Speaker 3: patient enough to let Trevor get to that point when

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Speaker 3: be in managerial mode. Oh, this is a game where

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Speaker 3: I need to be more game changer. And as he

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned the letter rip things. I think that,

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Speaker 2: you know, I didn't. I didn't want to overplay it

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Speaker 2: the week that Liam said it. But I think as

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Speaker 2: we move on from it, we're talking about a really

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Speaker 2: I never lost confidence in Trevor, and I think what

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Speaker 2: to at some point this year a lot play the

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Speaker 2: they can't get that part out of him, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter how safe he is and how few turnovers that

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Speaker 2: he makes. Am I saying that right?

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, is correct. When I was coming up

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Speaker 3: the thing is, you can't be scared if you're going

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Speaker 3: to be one of these guys that is a playmaker.

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Speaker 3: I was in Green Bay when Brett fav won three

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Speaker 3: straight MVPs. Now, Brett Favre has a million interceptions on

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Speaker 3: his ledger, but he never can be the magical playmaker

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Speaker 3: if he doesn't take those chances. Trevor has to go

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Speaker 3: through these moments in game. It's almost like John if

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Speaker 3: all this stuff on the driving range, but at some

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Speaker 3: Lawrence is having to do these things, and even though

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Speaker 3: he's a fifth year player, this is his first year

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Speaker 3: knows exactly what it is. Hey, they're gonna be some

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Speaker 3: I've talked about it, he made those mistakes, but he

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Speaker 3: never stopped. There have been games this year where we've

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Speaker 3: seen him make turnovers and he dials it back and

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Speaker 3: he plays conservative. To me, this game showed significant growth

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one thing to win despite the turnovers. It's

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Speaker 2: another thing to play better after him. And if you

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Speaker 2: watch the cast out the night, but Peyton was talking

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Speaker 2: through six interceptions and I was there and he never

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Speaker 2: he never blinked, he never stopped. But he said most quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: he said, man, when they get to three, they don't

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Speaker 2: you know you don't want the stat you know, you

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Speaker 2: don't have to live with that all week. Trevor didn't

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Speaker 3: So look, man, I thought it was significant. And I

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Speaker 3: think if you listen to his postgame presser and you

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Speaker 3: match it with how he.

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Speaker 2: Played, I'm not going to play he said it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was very confident. John. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I've ever heard him say that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point to the public.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard him say I'm not gonna play scared.

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Speaker 3: He would talk about a that's on me, this and that,

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I'm John Oser, no JP Shadow. Today it's Thanksgiving and

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Speaker 2: he's giving thanks evidently, so uh, you know you gotta

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I can't say that I'm happier for somebody

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Speaker 3: I say that Mike, and Mike knows him. But Mike

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Speaker 2: Explosive plays, Bucky, It's something that I really thought was

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Speaker 2: going to be ten play eighty yard drives now?

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Speaker 3: They still have an opportunity to find a way to

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Speaker 3: be explosive. One of the things that stood out it

436
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Speaker 3: was a near miss but late in the game last

437
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Speaker 3: week against the Cardinals, we had gone a little thirteen personnel,

438
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Speaker 3: three tight ends, and we snuck the Yanmi Brown in

439
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Speaker 3: the game out wide, and we play action and we

440
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Speaker 3: took a shot and then we missed. But it's one

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Speaker 3: of the things that I would expect us to be

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Speaker 3: able to do. And the more creative we can get

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Speaker 3: with our formations and personnel packages where we showed the

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Speaker 3: illusion to run and then take shots down the field,

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Speaker 3: the better the chances of us being getting to deliver

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Speaker 3: those explosive plays. Bron Thomas Junior comes back because he's

447
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Speaker 3: our most explosive weapon on the outside in terms of

448
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Speaker 3: a vertical threat, someone that could make plays outside the numbers.

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Speaker 3: We have to find a way to look man take

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Speaker 3: two or three shots a game not only in hopes

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Speaker 3: of getting an explosive play, but backing the defense up.

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Speaker 3: So now Parker Washington, Jakobe Meyers, Britton Strange, now they

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Speaker 3: have more room to work. The intermediate areagors of the field.

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Speaker 2: In ninety six, Buck, you were here and that team

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Speaker 2: sort of Yeah, I mean at the end of the season,

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Speaker 2: he had been good, but all of a sudden, at

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Speaker 2: the end of the season, he sort of came to

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Speaker 2: life and added something to an already functioning offense and

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Speaker 2: it sort of gave it. It wound up setting the

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Speaker 2: tone for what I consider a Hall of Fame career

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Speaker 2: for him too, But that year it sort of gave

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Speaker 2: them a boost that teams didn't expect. And I kind

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Speaker 2: of wonder if I that's the hope for me. Is

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Speaker 2: it all of a sudden he comes back and then

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Speaker 2: there's a dynamic to an already functioning offense that makes

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Speaker 2: them mature where I think they're gonna get next year.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they get there at the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a huge hope for maybe the element

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Speaker 2: that can make them stand out from a tight AFC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my hope, because as these games become more

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Speaker 3: competitive down the stretch and they become high pressure games.

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Speaker 3: You can need a playmaker on the outside that can

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Speaker 3: not only win, but can deliver a splash play. And

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Speaker 3: I know his season, his second season has been up

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Speaker 3: and now Brian Thomas Jr. Has proven that he can

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Speaker 3: make those splash plays. Despite the inconsistencies with the pass

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Speaker 3: catching and the drops and all this other stuff. We

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Speaker 3: have seen that when he does have an opportunity and

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Speaker 3: he makes the catch is an explosive play. So we

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Speaker 3: got to keep just trying to find ways to put

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Speaker 3: him in a position to make those plays. Whatever it

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Speaker 3: is that you have to do in terms of playing

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Speaker 3: musical chairs around the formation, find what works with him,

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Speaker 3: because I'm telling you the last month of the season,

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Speaker 3: we're going to need him and he is going to

486
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Speaker 3: make a series of game change in plays that helps

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars cruis into the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unpractically his last play. He made it against the

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Speaker 2: Raiders Mayber of the twenty seven yarder where he got hurt.

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Speaker 2: He came back, but that was really his last healthy play.

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Speaker 2: Cheer on your Jaguars as they travel to Tennessee to

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Speaker 2: take on the Titans this Sunday at the official away

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Speaker 2: game watch party taking place at mister Chubby's Fleming Island location.

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Speaker 2: Will be back in a moment talk about cam Ward.

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Speaker 2: This is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. All right, welcome

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Speaker 2: back to Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. Defensive coverage of

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Speaker 2: We're going to take a look at Titans quarterback cam Ward. Look,

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Speaker 2: we cover the Jaguars, so you cover the NFL much

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Speaker 2: more than I get a chance to. For me, cam

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Speaker 2: Ward sort of blends into a lot of struggling young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: You never know if they're gonna make it. Bryce Young,

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of storylines. Why is he different

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Speaker 2: than that.

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Speaker 3: One? His mentality is different than a lot of guys.

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Speaker 3: He's got an ultra competitive guy, just loves the game.

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Speaker 3: Alpha dog persona is what guys will describe him as,

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Speaker 3: and he's super talented when it comes to being able

510
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Speaker 3: to make throws from various platforms. It hasn't worked to

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Speaker 3: date against the Titans, but he's shown flashes when you

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Speaker 3: go back and look at his history. First at incarnate word.

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Speaker 3: Then at Washington State, and finally in Miami. He's always

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Speaker 3: raised the level of play of his teammates, and the

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Speaker 3: expectation will be that he would do the same thing

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Speaker 3: in Tennessee. Doesn't have the weapons around him, but man,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna make some throws, a handful of throws this week,

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna make us kind of drop out jaws.

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Speaker 3: What has to happen for us? Can't let him get comfortable.

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Speaker 3: Got to find a way to disrupt his rhythm. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: that disruption comes from blissing. Sometimes it comes from changing

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Speaker 3: the look post snap. But you cannot lie him to

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Speaker 3: kind of read the mail, because if he's able to

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Speaker 3: do that, he's able to play aggressively and decisively. He's

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Speaker 3: good enough to hurt you.

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Speaker 2: Do you know him at all? Buck? I know you knew?

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Speaker 3: Should do?

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Speaker 2: I mean? Like you knew some of the guys coming out,

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Speaker 2: do you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know him as well. Covering him extensively and

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Speaker 3: the stories about him when you talk to Mario, Crystal

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Speaker 3: Ball and guys down in Miami are legendary in terms

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Speaker 3: of how he holds people accountable, how he gets after

536
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Speaker 3: it and just what he brings to the game. But

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Speaker 3: like most young quarterbacks, man, it takes it takes a

538
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Speaker 3: little while to acclimate to the pro game. And if

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Speaker 3: you're the Jags, don't give any life. Don't let him

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Speaker 3: get off to a hot, hot start, don't let him

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Speaker 3: see the layups, going to bucket all that other stuff.

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Speaker 3: So you really want to clam down, make sure that

543
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Speaker 3: it's tough for him early and see if we can

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Speaker 3: feel him wilt under pressure late.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what she wondered about a young guy like that

546
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Speaker 2: in the rookie year is you know, do you have

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Speaker 2: that you want to or grid or whatever it is

548
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Speaker 2: to withstand weak to week what's going on. You know,

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Speaker 2: some guys can sound try, have a bad season and

550
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Speaker 2: then come back and once everything's been reset and they've

551
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Speaker 2: gotten away there, they're good to go. But it sounds

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Speaker 2: like he's a guy and the Titans results the last

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Speaker 2: few weeks tell me that he's a guy who they're

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Speaker 2: not going to be an easy out down the stretch,

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Speaker 2: just because they've already reached double digit victories. And it

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Speaker 2: sounds like he's a big reason why.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big reason why. And when I looked

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Speaker 3: at him coming out. He reminded me personality wise, of

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Speaker 3: Steve McNair. Okay, And for those of us who remember

560
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: Steve mcdarren what he did for the Oilers and Titans,

561
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Speaker 3: you understand the rugged persona and how he kind of

562
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Speaker 3: brought that to the field and his toughness was a

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Speaker 3: big part of how they rallied and played. And Ward

564
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: has some of those traits a little different as a player,

565
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Speaker 3: but it's going to be very, very reminiscent of when

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Speaker 3: Number nine would come out there and run out with

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Speaker 3: that that baby blue on and give the Jack's problems.

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Speaker 3: We got to make sure we don't get them started.

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Speaker 3: We want to make sure we crush his confidence early.

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Speaker 3: We don't want him to have a breakout performance on

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Speaker 3: our watch. Let him find that later in the year.

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Speaker 2: So x'es and o's wise, what's the key to getting

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Speaker 2: him off the field?

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Speaker 3: I mean X and those wise. I think it's the

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Speaker 3: same thing that we've seen in recent weeks. We got

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Speaker 3: to find a way to win upfront, and we're better

577
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Speaker 3: if we're able to win with four and keep seven

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Speaker 3: in coverage. We don't want to have to make it

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Speaker 3: a steady diet of blitzing, even though Anthony ga Manilla

580
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Speaker 3: would bring some pressures. We want to use the blitz

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Speaker 3: as a surprise, not as a main diet. So let's

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Speaker 3: see if Josh Heines Allen and some of those other

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Speaker 3: guys up front can hunt early and allow us to

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Speaker 3: play coverage and really suffocate what they have available on

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Speaker 3: the perimeter.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask the defensive coordinator a question. Josh

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Speaker 2: Heines Allen talks a lot about rushing as a group,

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Speaker 2: right and the importance of it and rushing within a plan.

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Speaker 2: It seems like they've gotten back to that the last

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I would sense that can be a

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Speaker 2: hard thing to stay in all year because there's pressure

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Speaker 2: in this lead to get sacks. It seems like the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks they have rushed really well as

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Speaker 2: a unit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have rush really well as a unit. And

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Speaker 3: it is a coordinated effort by the front floor to

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Speaker 3: be able to rush and get the quarterback down. And

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Speaker 3: what you can have is you can't have guys playing

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Speaker 3: hero ball. When you jump out of a gap, you

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Speaker 3: go to make a play, you've rushed past the depth

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Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks drop and you leave open lanes for

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Speaker 3: the quarterback to escape. Everyone has to do their job

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Speaker 3: up front, and when everyone is working together, that's when

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Speaker 3: you begin to get those covered sacks or those garbage

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Speaker 3: sacks because people are forcing the quarterback into the waiting

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Speaker 3: arms of somebody else. I'll say this though, the biggest

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Speaker 3: key to the pass for us has been Eric Armstead.

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Speaker 3: His ability to generate a push up the middle force

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Speaker 3: his quarterbacks to flee to the size into the hands

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Speaker 3: of Josh hanz Allen and some of the other guys.

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Speaker 3: So as long as Eric Armstead is dominating and winning

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Speaker 3: his one on one battle up front, man, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: bowl well for Josh Anzellen and others to be able

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Speaker 3: to get sacks.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been around too many good edge rushers who

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Speaker 2: haven't had good interior line play. So that's one of

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Speaker 2: the great hidden truths of the NFL. When we return,

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Speaker 2: a final look at the Titans on Huddle Up with

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. All right, welcome back to Huddle Up with

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars. You know, it's funny, Bucky. As much as

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Speaker 2: you know the winning I get emails about what this

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Speaker 2: team's not right, Oh, they're struggling in the way we

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Speaker 2: talked about the top of the show. Well, what they are,

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Speaker 2: Bucky is they're seven and four. They're a game behind

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Speaker 2: Indy and the AFC South. They're a game ahead of

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Speaker 2: the Texans. I don't think there's a legitimate favorite in

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Speaker 2: this division right now. I think the Texans have the

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Speaker 2: best defense. The Colts are good. The Jaguars. There's no

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Speaker 2: reason this team can't win it. There's also no reason

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Speaker 2: the Texans can't win it. There's no reason the Colts

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Speaker 2: can't win it from their point of view. I mean

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Speaker 2: even I'm not sure there's an edge. This is going

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Speaker 2: to be fun because those two teams play each other twice.

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Speaker 2: The Colts and Jags play each other twice. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: get decided on the field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna get decided on the field. And you

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Speaker 3: love that. And you know, we've talked about it internally

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Speaker 3: about the number magic numbers ten for the playoffs. But

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Speaker 3: what you love about the situation that the Jacks are

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00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: in is they really control their own destiny. If they

644
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Speaker 3: take care of business down the stretch, they will not

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Speaker 3: only make the playoffs, but they could win the division.

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Speaker 3: But this is one where you got to attack it

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Speaker 3: one game at a time. And this is a big

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00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: game just because on paper they would say that this

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Speaker 3: is one that they should win. So you want to

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Speaker 3: make sure that you get this one and set yourself

651
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: up to play meaningful games down the stretch. The team

652
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: is mature lot from the beginning of the season and

653
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: if you really go back and look at the games

654
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: that are lost outside of that one stinker against the

655
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: Rams in London, look, man, they played really good teams.

656
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: They can fall short in some of these games. This

657
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: team is good. This team knows that they're getting close

658
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: to being the team that we want them to be.

659
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of taking another step this weekend.

660
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, you know, you're one play again. You

661
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: can't say this in the NFL, I get it, but

662
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: you're one play away from being four to ohero in

663
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: your last you know four and from basically being able

664
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: to say you know. And even the Texans right now,

665
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: it has taken good teams to knock this team off.

666
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: Now they've been a little fortunate against the Raiders and

667
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. That's the way the league goes. But the

668
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: remaining schedule do we have that graphic? I don't know

669
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Speaker 2: if we had the remaining schedule graphic. Here you go

670
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: ask and he shall receive it. I don't get too

671
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: much into games remaining because it's such a week to weekly,

672
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: but you know, you do have that shot with the

673
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: four division games, then with the Jets. The Broncos looks

674
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: like a doozy. But as soon as you say they

675
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: look like a doozy, Bucky I'll use this graptok aout

676
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: the entire AFC and lead into that there's no dominant

677
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: team in the AFC. I can make an argument that

678
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: if you get to the Super Bowl you might be

679
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: playing a Rams or a Seahawks team or an Eagles team,

680
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: that it's not a great matchup. I'm not sure there's

681
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: any awful matchups for the Jaguars left in the AFC

682
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: this year.

683
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Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. If you look at the games that

684
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: are on the slate before we even get to the postseason.

685
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: To look, you have the Vision games against the Titans twice,

686
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: and then the coast. We traditionally match up well against

687
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: the Coats, particularly at home. So then you talk about

688
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: the Jets and the Broncos. With the Jets, they have

689
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: quarterback issues and so we can talk about that and

690
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: the Broncos. I'm be real about the Broncos. Their defense

691
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: is outstanding. Their offense leads a little to be desired.

692
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: That means you know what you're going to get into

693
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: when you play them if you're the Jaguars, and coaches

694
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: do a great job of not getting too far ahead

695
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: of themselves. But as fans, we can't. John. We like this.

696
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 3: We like the way to schedule lays out, I mean

697
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 3: right there without thinking you're like, okay, three are available there,

698
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: Potentially you could get five. I mean like there's a

699
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: path to being able to win and get everything that

700
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: you want heading into the postseason.

701
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Speaker 2: We're gonna put the playoff picture graphic up in a moment,

702
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: but I want to ask Bucky one thing about a

703
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: stat I found, which surprising, not surprising, right, the last

704
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: four games they scored at least twenty seven points the Jags.

705
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: It's first time they've done that since the end of

706
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: the end of twenty seventeen. Does it and again some

707
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: bad football in the eighteen to twenty one to twenty

708
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: two abyss Right, does it feel to you does the

709
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: eye test for this offense back that up? It feels

710
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: like they're almost sneakily becoming pretty consistent and reliable on offense,

711
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: notably even while having some turnovers and some flubs. But

712
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: they're putting points up.

713
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are putting points up. Now, I would say

714
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 3: it's a collective effort because not included in that are

715
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: some of the big returns. Parker Washington has made some

716
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: of the fratuitous bounces that we've been able to get

717
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: defensively to set the offense up. But as a team,

718
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 3: when we talk about magic numbers and scoring, yeah, man,

719
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty eight has always been what the

720
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: really good teams in this league have been able to

721
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: hit or exceed. So the Jaguars are right there. The

722
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: thing that we need to see from the offense is

723
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: better execution and close out moments. Got to be able

724
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: to close out the game in the fourth quarter. Had

725
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: a great drive over time against the Raiders. But there

726
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 3: have been times where Liam is on the record saying,

727
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: hey man, we got a chance to close out the game.

728
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: I'm a lean on the offens to do it. We

729
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: just need to make sure offensively we're doing that. We're

730
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: closing these game out. We're shutting the door and not

731
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 3: giving other people opportunities to kind of get back into

732
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Speaker 3: it late.

733
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Speaker 2: You brought that up, and I know the Skeleton crews

734
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: want to get out of here. But I got to

735
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: ask you about this fourth and one the other day.

736
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: You know, Eleen's been getting super criticized. You shouldn't go

737
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: for it there if he'd made it to be a genius.

738
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: It's the old thing. But I think what people may

739
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: be missing, and I think you'll buy into this. There's

740
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: a message in a mentality with that too, isn't there?

741
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: I mean, and he said after the game, you know

742
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: he wants guys to realize we are going to close

743
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 2: these kind of games out around here on our terms

744
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: and sort of an organizational tone to that as well.

745
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Speaker 2: Do you think one hundred percent?

746
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Speaker 3: And it goes back because I'll give you a little backstory.

747
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: I watched Army play the night before and Jeff Munkin

748
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: and the head coach and Marmie had the same thing.

749
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: Running offense wants to finish out the game, they get

750
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: the first down, game is over. Liam Cohn is coming

751
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: from that school of thought where we have an opportunity

752
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: on fourth and one, fourth and two, where we feel

753
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: great about our team and what we have, why not

754
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: take it when you have control of that situation as

755
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: opposed to kicking the field goal, punting, playing defense and

756
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 3: doing a traditional way when we've seen so many games

757
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: over years where teams lose in that fashion in a

758
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: league where it's all offensive friendly. So I understand going

759
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 3: for it. Look, whether you like the play call in

760
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: the execution, that's one thing, But understanding the mentality everyone

761
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: can understand that. And he said it, so we know

762
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 3: what he's going to do in those moments.

763
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing. And or this

764
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: because Doug sort of went forward in that situation a

765
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: lot too. He was of that mindset. Look, if you

766
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 2: don't like that, you probably turned off the TV because

767
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 2: it's everyone's gonna Yeah. I mean, it's it's not too

768
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean it's not nineteen ninety five. That have been

769
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: insane in ninety five, But that's the way teams are

770
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: playing now and Liam's not gonna change on that front.

771
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: I think North should he, because, like you said, Buck,

772
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: the league is structured right now where that's going to

773
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: benefit you over the long term having that kind of

774
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: of an approach. If you can't win doing that these days,

775
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna win.

776
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so you have to spend a lot of

777
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: time on these third and fourth and short situations knowing

778
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 3: that that's gonna be a big part of who you are.

779
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: You have to have more plays on the call sheet,

780
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: and you got to practice those situations more often. But

781
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: really it doesn't even coming down to the plays that

782
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: you call. Is more the intensity and then to focus

783
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: when it comes to executing on those moments, Jackson, The

784
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: Jags just have to execute in those moments so we

785
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: can finish out these games on our terms.

786
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: All Right, We're going to quickly put up the AFC

787
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: playoff picture graphic. The Jaguars are absolutely on the graphic.

788
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: For explanation, I've explained it a few times in the ozone,

789
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: But the Jaguars are the sixth seed, behind the Chargers

790
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: and ahead of the Bills because there's a three way

791
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: tie and the Chargers have the best conference record right now,

792
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: and the Jaguars conference record is better than the Bills,

793
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: so even though they beat the Chargers head to head,

794
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: they're sixth. The good news on that is if they

795
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: remain tied and finishing a two way tie with either

796
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: Kansas City or the Chargers, they have a huge edge.

797
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: So it's not showing in this, but by next week,

798
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: if they're tied, you could see the Jaguars on top

799
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: of that graphic. That's a long way off, but it's

800
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: just stuff. Something's been a question all week, and Bucky

801
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: just you know, one final question again on that graphic.

802
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: This is as wide open as I've ever seen the AFC. Probably,

803
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: I say, ever there's been other years. It's wide wide open.

804
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: And as we talked about coming into the break, that

805
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: team in red sitting over on the right is still

806
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: probably the team I don't want to see.

807
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: The kis. The Chiefs is certainly there, and they're scary

808
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: because their quarterback Pat Mahomes and all of the experience

809
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: that they have as a perend of you super Bowl team,

810
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 3: So you worry about them just in in six and five.

811
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: They have some work to do. But when I look

812
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 3: at the graphic, mayas are dead on the Colts because

813
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: I'm seeing the Coats beginning. They have to rely more

814
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: on Daniel Jones, the playmaker, than the game manager that

815
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 3: he was, the role that he was thriving in early

816
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 3: in the year. And the more that it becomes that

817
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 3: and less about Jonathan Taylor, the more likely the Coats

818
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 3: are going to come back to the pack. We'll take

819
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: care of business this weekend and then we can talk

820
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 3: about the Colts. But if I'm a Jags fan, I'm

821
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: looking at the division title because you want division title,

822
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: because that's a home game and theoretically a better matchup

823
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: for you in the postseason. Oh.

824
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 2: I think you make a strong argument that if you're

825
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: a Jags fan you sort of hope the Colts win

826
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: this week. That puts the Texans two games behind you,

827
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: and you've only split with them because you've you've got

828
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: to be bold in this. Hey, let the Colts win

829
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: this week. We'll reel them in next week after we

830
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: take care of business in Tennessee. It's a bold organization

831
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: right now. They're not waiting for things to happen to

832
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: help them, So I do think they're taking the approach

833
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: the Colts can win four as far as they're concerned,

834
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 2: because they want to win the other two and beat

835
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: them and bring them back, so they're more concerned about

836
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: what the Jags do than the Colts do. Right now,

837
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: is my point.

838
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: So I gotta take your business. It'll come back to us,

839
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: and we control on our destiny, so if we win

840
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: our games, it doesn't matter what any of those other

841
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: teams do. All right?

842
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: Everybody, Happy Thanksgiving, Buck, Happy Thanksgiving to Brent Reever. Heavy

843
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving to management, which is probably off site listening to

844
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: this right now, Bucky, So I'm going to get out

845
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: of here. This. This has been the Huddle Up Podcast

846
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: with Bucky Brooks.

847
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: Buck.

848
00:41:49,800 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: We'll see a Sunday, all right, man, we see