WEBVTT - “I WAS BANNED FROM ROBLOX”

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, my name is Collette.

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<v Speaker 2>Collette collect. You texted me and you said, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one year old woman who just got banned on Roadblocks?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure did? Sure did?

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<v Speaker 2>So tell me about that. How did you get banned

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<v Speaker 2>on Roadblocks?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I've just been playing a lot because I

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<v Speaker 3>have a little brother, he's like, you know, fourteen, We've

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<v Speaker 3>been playing for years or whatever. But also it keeps

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<v Speaker 3>you out of trouble roadblocks does. But yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 3>moved to Atlanta and from Texas, and I'd just been

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<v Speaker 3>kind of in my head a lot, and so I've

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<v Speaker 3>been like just playing by myself. But I got this

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<v Speaker 3>new game on there. It was this like it was

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be so chill. It was like a like

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<v Speaker 3>a treehouse tycoon, and basically all you got to do is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, say, like get all these honeybees, you collect them,

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<v Speaker 3>you you know, you build your treehouse. But then also

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<v Speaker 3>everybody comes in and like murders you and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, I'm like, I don't understand why there's murdering

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<v Speaker 3>this game. There's like chill jazz music, there's bird sounds.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't understand what this game is and why

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<v Speaker 3>everyone was treating it like a GTA server. But there

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<v Speaker 3>was these children and they rolled up that I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>collect my honey. They parked their little car. They kept

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<v Speaker 3>on murdering me over and over again, and it just

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<v Speaker 3>really sent me because like I was really excited to

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<v Speaker 3>play this little game, and I just called them Brady

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<v Speaker 3>virgins and then well I tried to report them because

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<v Speaker 3>they were being very mean to me on the on

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<v Speaker 3>the chat, I did not appreciate it. And they don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm going through. They don't know who they're

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<v Speaker 3>talking to. But yeah, I did tell them that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sorry their parents are divorced, and I do regret that

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<v Speaker 3>because their parents are probably most definitely divorced.

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<v Speaker 2>What okay, why do you assume that their parents are divorced?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean just because of you know, the ratios. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you can look at any like you know census.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, yeah, sure, yeah, sure, there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent chance that that they're right. How old How

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<v Speaker 2>old do you think these kids are? These are like squeakers,

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<v Speaker 2>These were like thirteen year olds.

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<v Speaker 3>They're probably they're probably yeah, they're probably like the same

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<v Speaker 3>as in my little brother. It's probably like fourteen or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they probably should they probably should be virgins.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, no, they should, I shouldn't. I I regret that.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. It's just like, you know, like, what's your

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. I mean, I'm not really upset that they

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<v Speaker 3>are that they're virgins. That's not really it was. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just that like, obviously you haven't been through anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just a stupid virgin, which is really mean to

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of adult virgins. I get it, I understand.

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<v Speaker 3>I was They're they're reorganizing that. I'm going crazy right now.

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<v Speaker 2>They're life virsion, they're life virgins, their life.

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<v Speaker 3>Their life virgin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes exactly, you know, uh yeah, yeah. I mean getting

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<v Speaker 2>into heated arguments with fourteen year olds on roadblocks is

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<v Speaker 2>probably crazy. It I you would feel irresponsible for me,

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a little crazy. It's a little crazy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>undeniably a little crazy. But I'm let's talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I pull my little brother. What happened in all these

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<v Speaker 3>textan me was wow, And I was like, okay, now

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<v Speaker 3>I know that. I'm like I'm like losing it a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Okay, why do you why do you think you're uh,

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<v Speaker 2>why do you think you're losing it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, I just moved here. I was in Austin,

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<v Speaker 3>Texas doing like a weird family thing for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been I've moved all around the country. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was only in Texas for a couple of years

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<v Speaker 3>because like my grandma and my mom wanted to like

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<v Speaker 3>hang out with me a little bit. I haven't really

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<v Speaker 3>lived around them for like over a decade, and that

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<v Speaker 3>was really really stressful. I have like very conservative, uh grandparents.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, just like everybody else. It's a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>different though, when like you're mixed and like your white

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<v Speaker 3>family is like really really racist in like every possible way.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much, Like, yeah, the only person I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like that I'm related to is my mom. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a really really long story. You know, I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>okay like not talking about that, but yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. My grandma like started hospice while I was there,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were just like incredibly hard to please people

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of have to perform at all times. And

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<v Speaker 3>then also I like they kicked me out because I

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<v Speaker 3>asked them to stop talking about Trump with me. And

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<v Speaker 3>then so I had to like live with like this

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<v Speaker 3>really crazy girl and and she was a lot And

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<v Speaker 3>then I was also dating like of, you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>comedian who was like a severe alcoholic. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of you know, stuff that didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>to do with me, which I'm usually pretty good at.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm realizing that this is like the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been wanting to get to Atlanta for a really

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<v Speaker 3>long time because I feel like all my hopes and

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<v Speaker 3>dreams and like a lot of like family that I

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<v Speaker 3>would like to get to now lives here. And I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to make movies and I want to make TV,

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<v Speaker 3>and like I've been working in production a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>and like I just want to like I've just been

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to come here and feel comfortable in my own

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<v Speaker 3>skin and just to have a lovely time. But now

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm here, it's like the self like I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>actually having to like be the person that I was

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<v Speaker 3>imagining being. And then I'm also realizing, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>that's the anxiety is like that part is like I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this is like you you think about something for too

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<v Speaker 3>long and then like you're like, oh, this is It's

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<v Speaker 3>still me, I'm not like a different person. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>so it's like still have to do all of those things,

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<v Speaker 3>like be a different person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And now I'm just like cursing kids out on roadblocks.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's crazy. I'm like I could be outside

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<v Speaker 3>right now, it's like gorgeous out. I could be like

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<v Speaker 3>meeting people, but I have a really I'm like so

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<v Speaker 3>good at meeting people that are like terrible for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So like I'm really terrified about like making new connections.

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<v Speaker 3>That's also I think, really what it is is that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't trust myself to like actually surround myself with

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<v Speaker 3>people that are like good for me. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>really what it is too. Also, I just like don't

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<v Speaker 3>know where to start at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>You said so many things just now that pequked my interest. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to I'm trying to hold on to all

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<v Speaker 2>of them. Okay, one you said was first of all, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry if I got I'm trying to get your

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<v Speaker 2>timeline correct because you because you said something, because you

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<v Speaker 2>threw a bunch of stuff out about like okay, your

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<v Speaker 2>family kicked you know, bad relationship with the family and

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<v Speaker 2>the alcoholic comedian and all this is that, this is

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<v Speaker 2>all before you moved to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this was all before I moved to Atlanta. This

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<v Speaker 3>was like the first place I've ever lived with like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then then you've.

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<v Speaker 3>Done things for family and other people, and like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the first time I've ever done something that's like

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<v Speaker 3>just me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when did you move to Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 3>Like a month ago?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're living with your little brother.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not living with my little brother. My little

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<v Speaker 3>brother lives pretty close. He lives in Jacksonville, Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but do you live with yeah, like, are you

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<v Speaker 2>living with family by yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I live completely by myself and I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>like close family, like the family I have here. Oh shit,

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<v Speaker 3>my cat, Hi, are you ready to come in Jesus,

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<v Speaker 3>you've been gone for so long? But yeah, she it's

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<v Speaker 3>just me and my cat and my snake that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>hiding from the leasing office. But yeah, the family I

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<v Speaker 3>have here, they're like I haven't seen them since I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, you know, ten or something.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, And you said that you mainly came down

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<v Speaker 2>there to uh, well, you said you came down there

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of reasons. But you one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons you said you came down there was because you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get closer to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, I've got like my I've got like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of my my dad's side of the family in Savannah.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I've already like went and saw my grandma,

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<v Speaker 3>who's like great. She like has always like smoked like

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<v Speaker 3>two packs of Marbs a day, and like she like

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<v Speaker 3>drives trucks and like she's really mean, but she like

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<v Speaker 3>puts all of her heart and soul into like the

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<v Speaker 3>food she makes. Like she's like so classic. She look

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<v Speaker 3>a really nice lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. How old is she she? I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, she had my dad. Like my whole

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<v Speaker 3>family's just babies. My dad was like she had my

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<v Speaker 3>dad when she was fourteen. Wow, she got real on life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>real unlucky. It was the guy she like lost her

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<v Speaker 3>virginity too, and he's like a real schmuck. Like he's

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<v Speaker 3>like a bad guy, but yeah he's crazy. And then yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>my dad and my mom had me. My mom her

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<v Speaker 3>parent her mom had her when she was nineteen and

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<v Speaker 3>then they pretty much did the same thing. They were

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<v Speaker 3>like twenty when they had me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I was imagined when you said your grandma,

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<v Speaker 2>I was imagining like kind of an old lady, but

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<v Speaker 2>she's younger.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh well I have yeah, like the one that's on

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<v Speaker 3>hospice in Texas. That's my mom's mom. And yeah, she's young,

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<v Speaker 3>but she's just like I mean, like her last name

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<v Speaker 3>is like Dangler. She like comes from like real poor,

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<v Speaker 3>like like her dad was like a huge drunk who

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<v Speaker 3>like spent all of their milk money like on alcohol

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<v Speaker 3>and gambling. So like all of her teeth fell out

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<v Speaker 3>by the time she was like thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Just crazy, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So I mean back to you are the other thing?

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<v Speaker 2>The thing, Yeah, back to you, you know, because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>that we could get it. I'm sure that we could.

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<v Speaker 2>We could write a whole textbook about your family lore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that the Lord sounds like it goes very crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>The well, the thing that you said that I was like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>fucking amen to that is the thing about yeah you

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<v Speaker 2>imagine is is well yeah, okay, so once you I

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<v Speaker 2>also feel like and this is actually I think part

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<v Speaker 2>of like uh not to bring it to me, but

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<v Speaker 2>like a little part of like an existential crisis is

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<v Speaker 2>like what you sort of when you get a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit older, you begin to fully understand the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>there is no such thing as your future self, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a little there's no such there's no such thing

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<v Speaker 2>as your future self. And that's like a little scary,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I think we put a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>hopes and dreams and reliefs and plans and whatnot in

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<v Speaker 2>this bucket of some day and in the future self,

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<v Speaker 2>and but there's just it just never comes. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>such thing as the future self. So yeah, it's still you.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that like the last two years have

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<v Speaker 3>just been so stressful that I like have really just

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<v Speaker 3>been like easing myself like self soothing with like a

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<v Speaker 3>future self in mind. Like that's been like a self

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<v Speaker 3>soothing like technique that I'm realizing. And that's it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's making itself really apparent.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I actually completely undermine everything I just said? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because now I'm thinking about it, I'm like, I actually

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<v Speaker 2>there's kind of no such thing as the futureself. But

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<v Speaker 2>there also kind of is such a thing as a

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<v Speaker 2>future self, you know, because as human beings, we can

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<v Speaker 2>anticipate the future, so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can manifize things and you can eventually like you can

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<v Speaker 3>do things. You can you can visualize things and make

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<v Speaker 3>them into fruition, not even just like you know you

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<v Speaker 3>can you can you can emulate something until it be you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I actually actually kind of I just I

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<v Speaker 2>have disagree with what I said. I think that are

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, there is no future self. It's always

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna be you when you have to understand that,

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<v Speaker 2>But there is something about you can plan for the

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<v Speaker 2>future to the best you can, you know. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you can do that financially, and you can do the

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<v Speaker 2>health wise, and you can do that. But a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the times, yeah, I mean, the future self is

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of like a vehicle for procrastination. But anyway, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get okay past your family lawyer. We're

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<v Speaker 2>getting philosophical bullshit. No, it's okay. I'm I'm steering us

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<v Speaker 2>in those directions, and I take responsibility for that. Is

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<v Speaker 2>why are you? Why are you sitting at home alone

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<v Speaker 2>in your house yelling at teenagers on roadblocks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess I'm just like realizing just like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't really like trust myself the way that I should. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't know. Oh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, let's talk about this, right is you

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<v Speaker 2>you set all these like okay, you want to make

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<v Speaker 2>movies and oh well, okay, let's let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 2>You said that moving to Atlanta was something that you did,

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<v Speaker 2>uh for yourself. It's like one of the only things

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<v Speaker 2>you did, uh for yourself? Why did you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I just think that I think that I'm sorry. My

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<v Speaker 3>cat is driving me nuts. She's like yelling in like

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of our apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>Belief.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that what it is is that I've never

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<v Speaker 3>I've always wanted to make movies, and it was something

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<v Speaker 3>that like, uh, you know, I felt like really guilty

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<v Speaker 3>about for a long time for like familiar reasons or

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<v Speaker 3>that it wasn't like possible, Like nobody my family's ever

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<v Speaker 3>really really believed in me about that. But until like

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<v Speaker 3>my dad like one random time was like, asa, what

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<v Speaker 3>I worked on a gator Ade commercial And He's like

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<v Speaker 3>I saw your car and this gator Rade commercial and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, like I mean I can do it,

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<v Speaker 3>Like there's like no reason like I can't. And I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I've just never like invested in like myself and

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<v Speaker 3>things that I wanted to do. I guess I've always

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<v Speaker 3>like chose like the safe option. I like decided to

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<v Speaker 3>do like clinical massage therapy because I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well I can just do that while I'm like figuring

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<v Speaker 3>it out. And I've always just done like all these

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like a side quest person, and I've like had

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<v Speaker 3>a really hard time like with the big what are

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<v Speaker 3>you going to be when you grow up?

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<v Speaker 1>Question?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But I've always done like a bunch of side

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<v Speaker 3>quests and I still kind of I mean, I still

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<v Speaker 3>do want to do that, but I guess that this

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<v Speaker 3>place just feels like there's a lot of opportunities for

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<v Speaker 3>me to do things that I want to do, like

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<v Speaker 3>and when it comes to like film, like I just

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<v Speaker 3>love being on a set in any capacity. It really

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter you.

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<v Speaker 2>Said you you said you work, do you currently work

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<v Speaker 2>in production, or you have worked in production.

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing a lot of it in Florida, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing a lot of like live concert stuff

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time, which was really cool, and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was working my way into the commercials. But Austin,

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<v Speaker 3>Texas was really really weird for that, Like the community

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<v Speaker 3>there is like really cutthroat and really quickie and intense.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't get to do that as much.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you pick Atlanta? Because it has started to keep

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<v Speaker 2>interrupting you. But I'm just trying to get down to like, yes, why.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're trying to like figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you did you get Did you pick Atlanta? Because

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<v Speaker 2>there's because of all the product I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 3>I there's a lot of film here especially, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of like TV stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say you want to like make film, do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean you.

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<v Speaker 3>Want if I could be if I could be like

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<v Speaker 3>if I could be like a like a like a

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<v Speaker 3>foli artist, but like the rest of my life, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>be very happy with that. If I could get in

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<v Speaker 3>a writer's room, I'd be really really happy with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like so many different avenues of it that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like really could be very happy doing. And that's why

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like so broad with it. It's like it's not

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<v Speaker 3>even like a like, oh, I don't know, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>a believe in myself that I could like direct. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I could, like I really do think that I like,

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<v Speaker 3>but I I there's so many different facets of like

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<v Speaker 3>filming something that I genuinely enjoy is what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Okay, that's good to know. So I you've been

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta for a month, and yeah, have you have you

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<v Speaker 2>gone to any like fucking have you have you gone

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<v Speaker 2>to any like? You gotta see? That's that's that's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, there's a lot of And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the king of short I am the king of

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<v Speaker 2>short term dopamine traps. Okay, I am a I am

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<v Speaker 2>a complete hypograph. I'm the king of short term dopamine loops.

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<v Speaker 2>So I say this with with uh uh you know

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<v Speaker 2>the heart, uh, yes, the if. I'm sure that yelling

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<v Speaker 2>at a at a little kid on roadblocks probably feels amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably a great rush of adrenaline to to like

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<v Speaker 2>have something that, like to care about, like to like

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<v Speaker 2>be giving, like, you know, because we're all just we're

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<v Speaker 2>all just looking for reasons to get out of our

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<v Speaker 2>fucking head and into something, and sometimes that desire is

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<v Speaker 2>what leads us to spend any amount of time or

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<v Speaker 2>effort or fucks to give about getting a little kid

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<v Speaker 2>banned from roadblocks. That's why you're doing that. It's because

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<v Speaker 2>you're in I was I was driving down the road,

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<v Speaker 2>uh yesterday and somebody like started slowing this the guy

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<v Speaker 2>the car in front of him was slowing down, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they started like backing up or something like just

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the road. And I yelled, and

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<v Speaker 2>I yelled, are you a fucking moron? And then I

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<v Speaker 2>and then I and then I went I turned around,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I and then I passed the car and

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<v Speaker 2>then I was like, oh my god, that felt so good.

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<v Speaker 2>My entire body and brain and essence was fully in

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<v Speaker 2>that moment of calling that person a fucking more. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels good. That's why we do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Yeah, I don't think I'll ever get I think

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<v Speaker 3>the road rage contained to your car will always be

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<v Speaker 3>a healthy outlet. And you can't change my mind on that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, maybe maybe maybe you're right, Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it is. I felt good, I felt it was cathartic.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't again, and you know what, and you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right as long as it's I think would be,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want to, like I would never you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go to the person to their fate, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as you're right as long as it's contained in your

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<v Speaker 2>own car. Sure, anyway, why don't anyway? Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>all this really comes down to is like, I mean, dude, here,

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<v Speaker 2>if I could give like, if I could give some

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<v Speaker 2>suggestions here. I don't always feel inclined to give suggestions

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<v Speaker 2>or feel like I know what I'm talking about here,

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<v Speaker 2>but because it's like, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You used to and I remember an episode where you

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I used to live in I used to

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<v Speaker 2>live in Atlanta a couple of times, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just this particular and you know, being doing film production

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<v Speaker 2>ship and so this particular avenue. I feel, why don't

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<v Speaker 2>you go on like meetup or Facebook or Instagram or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever and just like go to fucking like networking events

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<v Speaker 2>or even or even right, why don't you go on

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<v Speaker 2>like IMDb or LinkedIn or Twitter or whatever the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>and like email ten different Foley artists and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, can I ask you for advice on getting

0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.399
<v Speaker 2>into the industry? Not like hey can I you know,

0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.760
<v Speaker 2>have a job, but like, hey, you know, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>you just just gotta network. And by the way, people

0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.840
<v Speaker 2>think that networking is like people the word networking is

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<v Speaker 2>gross to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's it's the only way you get anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also it's not even I don't even think

0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.400
<v Speaker 2>it's gross. It's like it's connecting, you know. I mean

0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.400
<v Speaker 2>that's what you should it's people. That's what you should

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:42.200
<v Speaker 2>be doing. Is you should be out in your industry

0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.240
<v Speaker 2>connecting with other people and not you know, at home

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.560
<v Speaker 2>alone yelling at teenage. It's good. It's not a gross

0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 2>thing to want to network.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it is. Okay, okay, thank you. That's actually really

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<v Speaker 3>a good advice. Then do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean that's what I would do, is

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<v Speaker 2>find if you have a I mean it's also it's

0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.920
<v Speaker 2>so great that you have a specific because a lot

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.280
<v Speaker 2>of people are like, oh, I want to make something,

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.800
<v Speaker 2>but you know what it is and whatever the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>But to have like a specific vision and be like

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be a folly artist, I mean, god damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Go you know, go talk to the people who are

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<v Speaker 2>literally doing what you want to do and they're accessible

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:26.080
<v Speaker 2>to get like.

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<v Speaker 3>An audio engineering degree, and I don't know if I

0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:31.920
<v Speaker 3>should do that. I think you think it's a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of audio engineering kind of like a useless degree.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, you know what Instead of asking me

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:43.200
<v Speaker 2>because I have no idea, go go find Yeah, seriously, seriously,

0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 2>write a billion fucking questions down and then go to

0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 2>like one of these networking events that I'm sure happen

0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:55.320
<v Speaker 2>all over Atlanta and ask these people, ask that question

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<v Speaker 2>to these people. You know this we live in. We

0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:04.119
<v Speaker 2>live in there's a lot of like, uh doomerism around

0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 2>the connectedness of our society nowadays. And I could get

0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.399
<v Speaker 2>at philosophical bullshit whatever, but like, I don't know this,

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Like the tools exist for you to find people who

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:15.840
<v Speaker 2>are doing exactly what you want to do and reach

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:21.119
<v Speaker 2>out to them. And by all, there's I see no

0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:22.919
<v Speaker 2>reason why if you reach out to ten of them,

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<v Speaker 2>at least one of them wouldn't be wouldn't love to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talk to you. Because that's why, Because I

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Speaker 2>think I think people people want to do that. People

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.760
<v Speaker 2>want to send the elevator back down when they, you know,

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.560
<v Speaker 2>get further in their careers. It makes them feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, do that again instead of going going

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<v Speaker 2>and saying alone in your house and yelling at teenagers.

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<v Speaker 3>I will, I will. Yeah, I think I'm finally at

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<v Speaker 3>the point in my life where I'm like more comfortable

0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:57.160
<v Speaker 3>being alone. But uh, yeah, I think that the only

0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 3>spiraling thing that I'm feeling is like what I'm supposed

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 3>to be doing. But being alone is like sick, which

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:05.879
<v Speaker 3>it did not used to be the case.

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, good, a lot of for a lot of

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:10.640
<v Speaker 2>people being alone as hell.

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so as long as I don't spent too long

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 3>on robugs, I think, yeah, it's a good thing.

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's been honestly really terrifying to you because

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like every time I have sets out in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 3>it's only like romance trying to find me, and that's

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 3>really frustrating.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, what do you mean? What do you mean it's

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:35.160
<v Speaker 2>only romance trying to find you?

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 3>It's I'm I'm consistently having people trying to date me

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 3>in a capacity and I can't find any friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do I feel I'm I'm hold on, I'm invested

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 2>in this. Give me one second. I'm I feel I

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<v Speaker 2>genuine because I feel like there's got to be like

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking like women filmmakers meet up in Atlanta that

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 2>you can go to friends. I really just got that.

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 2>There's no way that doesn't exist.

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 3>It has to, right, it has to me.

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Look Look here, what is this? Look? What is this

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<v Speaker 2>film hub Atlanta? I literally just googled this there's the

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<v Speaker 2>film Fatals, an international collective of Yeah, there's all there's

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of this ship. I'm I yeah, there's all

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.919
<v Speaker 2>kinds of this ship. Look upcoming events Atlanta. Hold on,

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 2>bro look at this. Look I mean this is a

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 2>past event, but uh, this is a women in Film

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:40.199
<v Speaker 2>and Atlanta event Saturday, April twenty sixth. It's passed. But

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I just said, these things exist, you know they do.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, you can join. Look, this is the whole thing.

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 2>You can join. Look at this. W i f t

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:53.119
<v Speaker 2>a dot org volunteer. Look at this. You should be

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:55.719
<v Speaker 2>on this website. Literally, lear you go right now, go

0:24:55.760 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 2>to w i f t a dot org slash get

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:08.160
<v Speaker 2>dash involved and it says volunteer, get what get involved?

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Fucking send them an email. Just you know, just I

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 2>just this is I'm getting specific about it, but it's

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>like I just just do anything to jog your brain

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>into realizing that there's there's there's other options for you

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>besides again, besides yelling at teenage us on the internet.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thanks Lyle. Hey did you ever watch Perfect Days?

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:35.959
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 2>I haven't. I thank you, By the way, Because this

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'll have multiple streams in a row

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, I think I'm pretty useless, but I

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>felt good about this call. So thanks for letting me

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 2>yell at you. Collecte.

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:56.639
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for yelling at me, Lyle. It's been a pleasure.

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 3>This is my first time ever really calling.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that you chose me.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything else you want to say to the

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 2>people of the computer before we go?

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 4>Mmm?

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I claim to know a guy, but I can't

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 3>tell you what his hands look like. All right, Lyle, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Colleede, you have a good one. Bye bye bye.

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what did that she's Sometimes I claim

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 2>to know a guy, but I don't know what his

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 2>hands look like. Is it like a is that a

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 2>sex joke? What is that? Anyway? Anyway, Man, vivance is awesome.

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a real person. That's what it is.

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 2>That's what it is. I've had a lot of street

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe that's not what it is, but my

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 2>energy as a human being, I think to do this

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 2>podcast is finite. And there's a lot of times where

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like nine pm and I'll chuck and I you know,

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I got a record, and I'll chug a fucking mountain

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 2>dew and then I'll and then I and then someone's

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 2>talking to me and I'm zoning out, and I'm like, oh,

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>of course that's happening. Why would that not be happening

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 2>right now? I'm always trying to solve for X, for

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Speaker 2>like how to feel good and present? Yeah, I don't know,

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm rambling, but yeah, good luck Collette. Uh try to

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 2>do stuff? Hello? Hello, Hello? What's up?

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Man? What's happening on?

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Not much where you call him? Are you a brit

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Are you a Brits? No Ah, there we go? What

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 2>part of Australia? Are you in Sydney? Kick ass man?

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 2>I had a great time in Sydney when I went there.

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you like it? Or are you like us?

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Is where I live?

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>It's just where you live your I'll not PayPal travel

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>he from all over the world and people get exhitited

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>to say it about For me, it shifts a lock.

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>It's an as though it is a beautiful city. We've

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>got some good local beaches and there's a lot of

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>like restaurants and you know, nice places to eat out.

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you always feel like wherever you live,

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>you always feel like you just live in a bubble.

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, because you go to your job and to

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>do your thing, and it's kind of like you get

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>caught up in the routine.

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes, Yeah, are you Are you in a bubble? That's

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 2>a stupid question, but it remains.

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>It feels like that five days of the week and

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>then the other two days of the week. Sometimes you

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>try to break free of that bubble, do something, you know,

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 1>out of the ordinary, but sometimes you just end up

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>getting stuck in the bubble still, and then you just

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>live this life in a bubble because it feels like,

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, sometimes it's just financeers that feel like

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>it's holding you back from breaking free of that bubble.

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 2>You said that on the weekends you try to break

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>out of the bubble. What do you do on the

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 2>weekends to try to break out of the bubble?

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't so much. I haven't been doing

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>it as much lately, but I did, like, you know,

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I do like going out to the beach or going

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>on a hike or just you know, getting outdoors and

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>getting out in nature. But i've you know, I had

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a work related incident this year and

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.959
<v Speaker 1>it's impacted my ability to do a lot of things.

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>So I guess I'm just kind of been stuck in

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the bubble.

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Is that Is that something you want to talk about?

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess I could talk about it. So earlier

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>on this year. I so for work, I work in construction.

0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I operate a piece of mobile plant, the plan I'm

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>referring to. It's a vacuum truck and I dig holes

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:17.719
<v Speaker 1>with it. So it's a big truck, and it's got

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>a huge tank on the back, and you have a

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>hose that comes off of the truck and you it's

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a vacuum hose, and you run out a high pressure

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>water hose as well, and you dig holes using the

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>high pressure water and the vacuum from the truck to

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>expose underground services in such an electrical gas and water.

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>And I was dig in holes earlier this year and

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I dug you know, I dug this hole, and I

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of, you know, after I was finished digging the hole.

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>The holes were supposed to be covered by the you know,

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 1>one of these workers on the job side, and he's

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, covered the whole poorly, and I've misstepped and

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I've fallen in the hole. I fell in the hole.

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>It was only about to meet a beat, but you know,

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I landed directly on top of the water main that

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>was in the ground, and it's then I shock up

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>my spine and I've slipped the disc and it's caused

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>some you know problems and some psciattica. So it's affected

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>my right leg completely. It's impacted my ability to exercise,

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>which has been quite difficult for me because exercise has

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>always been a bit of an outlet for me. So yeah,

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's it, man, It's been a bit of a

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>head fuck, if I'm being honest.

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Man, When did this

0:31:59.160 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>all happen.

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Back at start of February.

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Did like, did you get any kind of like a

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:09.479
<v Speaker 2>workman's camp.

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it was complicated because when it first happened,

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the company that I worked for thought it was just

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be, you know, maybe a one or two

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>day thing, so they didn't want to file any claims

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 1>or do anything through the workers' compensation, and you know,

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days. You know, even on the day

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of the incident, it wasn't didn't feel like a big

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>deal at the time, and then the next morning I

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>woke up and I couldn't even I struggled to get

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>out of bed. So I went and I called my

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>boss and I told him, I said, I've got to

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I went to the doctors on the day

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and he actually my boss come and picked me up

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>from the job site. Because the company I work for

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>a week contract to you know, these job sites. We

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>hire out our equipment to other job sites. So they

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>will call up and say, you know, we need a

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>vacuum truck for eight hours today, and they send out

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>me the operator. I'll drive the truck to the job

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>site and I work for the client for eight hours.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>So my boss has come after the incident, after he

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>was made aware of it, picked me up from the

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 1>job site, taken me to his doctor, walked me into

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the doctor's office and tried to get me sign off

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>as you know, all clear and you know there were

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>no problems, and you know, it was a bit I

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't really speak up at the time. I just let

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>him say whatever he needed to say. And the doctor

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>refused to sign the office because they're just like, we

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the you know, we don't really know

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>until we get some scans done. I can't just sign

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>him off and say he's aw clear. He could have

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 1>a slip disc or you might wake up tomorrow and

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>not be able to move. And that's exactly what happened.

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, next day, I wake up, struggled to get

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>out of bed straight away, went to my doctor without

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>my boss there being present, told them the whole situation.

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>They asked if I wanted to do a workers do

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>it to workers compensation, and I said no, that's fine

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>because I knew that my boss didn't feel comfortable going

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>to workers compensation, And they said they gave me a

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>referral to go get an MRI, which I had booked in,

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and I got that within a few days, and the

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 1>MRI results showed that I'd slept a disc in my back,

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and my doctor had said that I need to go

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>see a neurosurgeon immediately. Le So then I've called my boss.

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I've told them that that was the situation, and then

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>they've gone ahead booked me in to see a different

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>doctor who then wanted to backtrack fill out our workers'

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>compensation claim, backtrack it to the actual day of the incident,

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 1>because they knew that if after I got the results

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>from the MRI and my doctor said I need to

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>see neurosogeon. They knew it was going to be a

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of money out of their pocket and this could

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>potentially go on for a long time and it would

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 1>end up costing them a lot more money. So they

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>have then gone and you know, I set me up

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:57.720
<v Speaker 1>with their doctor. I've been doing everything that their doctor

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>has been sane, It's gone through works coming. I've been

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 1>going to physio twice a week, multiple doctors appointment. The

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>first three to four weeks, I was on four different

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>pain management medications and it felt like none of it

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>was helping. Over time with the physio and then slowly

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>weeding off of those medications and then slowly getting back

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>into work, I have started to feel better, but they

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>still haven't signed me off yet because I'm now it's

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>still affecting my right leg. So, you know, a couple

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago went and I got another MRI and

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>it's still showing that there's a problem there. And the

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>doctor that they had set me up with is now

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>saying on to see a neurosurgeon, which is what my

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 1>doctor had said initially. So it kind of feels like,

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.720
<v Speaker 1>you know that, well, all that time that I've spent

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 1>with doctor doing whatever he was saying, and ultimately now

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>he's saying, I gotta go see a neurosoge and I

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like this is something that I kind of wanted

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to do months ago, back when the incident first happened.

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>But they thought that maybe I was, you know, because

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it was my doctor. I was somehow, you know, they

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>were I don't know they I feel like maybe they

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>thought I was all caught up with my doctor and

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>they were telling me to do something. You know, I

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you get what I'm saying.

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 2>They thought it was fishy that you were bringing in

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 2>your doctor instead of their doctor. There's that basically what

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:55.399
<v Speaker 2>you're saying. Yeah, they well, well, yeah, I guess because

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 2>they don't want I mean, they want to be in

0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 2>control of the situation. I would assume, yes, So are

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:08.839
<v Speaker 2>you Are you having issues with like with with being

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 2>able to see your doctor in conflict with their doctor.

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I can see my doctor at any time, and that's

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:21.320
<v Speaker 1>a part of the workers' compensation. I can change the doctors,

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I can change fhusio. I'm in control of the whole

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>situation essentially. But every time I brought it up to them,

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>if they're not happy about something, because they have not

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.720
<v Speaker 1>made this easy for me at all. You know, there's

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:38.399
<v Speaker 1>been times, you know, when I'm at work and they're

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>coming up to me. They essentially think that I'm milking

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, or that I'm bullshitting my way through

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>it just so i can stay on workers compensation without

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>saying that directly. They have come up to me and said,

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you've been honest with us about the

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>whole thing, and it's like like, I'm getting the skin,

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing your doctors, I'm doing everything that you guys

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>want me to do, and still you're not happy with

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>it because they haven't signed me off.

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 2>You said you were back to work.

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Though, right, yeah, but it's reduced hours.

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and so so so what are they what are

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 2>they trying to do with they trying to like, are

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 2>they trying to be like, hey, we're no longer gonna

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 2>because obviously you're still working with their doctor. Are they

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 2>trying to say like like you can't work with our

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 2>doctor on our dime anymore.

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, a couple of weeks ago, my boss had come

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>up to me while I was at work, and he

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>was he approached the situation a lot differently to how

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>they had previously because it felt very threatening. They have

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>approached me a few times and it felt very threatening

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.720
<v Speaker 1>in the way that they approached me. But this time around,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>he was just like, you know, you, I feel like

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you're telling us you're getting better, which I am slowly,

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>it is taking time, and I am getting better. I

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>have made a lot of progress since the date of

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the incident. And they're like, but we feel like you're

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>telling us one thing and then you're going into the

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>doctor's office and you're telling them something different. And I said,

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:28.760
<v Speaker 1>how can that be? Like, I'm not because they're also

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:33.720
<v Speaker 1>they've also hired some third party, some guy that works

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>for a third party rehab rehabilitation program who also works

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:45.240
<v Speaker 1>with me to get my goals on track and things

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>such as that. But he attends all of my doctor's

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>appointments with me and writes down statements of things that

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>have been said, and he shares those things directly with

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>my employer.

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 2>That's fucking weird, man, that's fucking weird that they're like

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 2>hounding you about it.

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>It is weird. It's weird.

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, you're leg I mean, I mean, well,

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 2>it's also like, look, I mean, you're what is it.

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 2>It's your right leg mainly right, yes, is your right how?

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>How how is your right leg doing? Is it still

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 2>like I mean, I assume what this was back in February.

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it probably takes a while to like fully rehabilitate,

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean they're they're trying to like rush

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:40.240
<v Speaker 2>your leg.

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they are. It's it is going to take a

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>while because it is stemming from the slit disc and

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>from what I know, those things take a long time

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>to recover from. But it's made my right leg essentially,

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>like it's a little bit sloppy. I have to control

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>over them. I can use that. I'm not really limping

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>when I walk or anything, but it's I have a

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>bit of loss of control over my right foot and

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't, you know, do things like I can't run

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>when I'm you know, driving, it's kind of affecting my

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>ability to push on the accelerator and break not completely.

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I can still drive, but my job does require me

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 1>to drive a truck, so you know, it's kind of

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>affected affecting my ability to work. And you know, they're

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>still trying to rush it along, and I just don't

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>know what to do at this point.

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 2>But you can't you I mean, yeah, I mean if

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to rush it along, but like, don't you

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 2>have I mean, by the way, I mean, I am

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 2>in the grounds of things that I have no fucking

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 2>idea what I'm talking about, but I can I just

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 2>can we assume that there's some kind of law or

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, like what are your what are

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 2>your rights in this situation? You know what I mean? Like,

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.720
<v Speaker 2>did do you have anyone who's like telling you that ship.

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Anyone that I've told things that are sucked up? And

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I agree it is about the company that I work

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:31.399
<v Speaker 1>for can be kind of a toxic workplace, and you.

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Know, but I guess what I'm saying is like it's

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 2>like it's like like they're trying to like like if

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 2>your boss is trying to like you know, uh like

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>strong arm you into not paying for uh, not being

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 2>on workers comp is that like you know, is that

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:51.320
<v Speaker 2>is that illegal?

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think it's legal.

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 2>So then well, I mean, so look, if it's not legal,

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 2>then don't you can kind of can't you kind of

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 2>be like uh, yeah, well you can. You can say

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want. You can try to rush me as

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 2>much as you want, but uh, it doesn't fucking matter

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 2>because you know you have to pay for you have

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>to pay for this, you know, so like I mean,

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 2>if they because if they do rush you along and

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 2>they do try to fuck you, I assume you can

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 2>just sue them. But I don't know. I can't assume

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 2>anything because I don't know anything about any of this ship,

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 2>either in America or Australia.

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>M hm, yeah, you need you need a lawyer, man,

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>You need a lawyer.

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 2>You need a lawyer. You need a lawyer, not a gecko.

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 2>You need a lawyer, man.

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>A lawyer. But it wasn't really something that I'm looking to. Uh,

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, Ti up U, it's already a bit of

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:01.760
<v Speaker 1>a headache.

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to I'm sure. I know, I'm sure,

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 2>and I I I I empathize with that. I get that.

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 2>It's like you don't wanna you's don't want to deal

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 2>with it. But it still is my go ahead.

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, it still is my job

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, my form of income and following this,

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really it's uncertain what's going to happen. I

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know if by the end of it, when they

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 1>saw me, They're going to be like I like you done,

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 1>pack up your ship and go, or that's to be

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>b my job.

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 2>And I can hold on, hold on, I'm gonna I'm

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:49.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna interrupt. What's your name again, job, Marcus? Whatever? Whatever

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 2>your name is? Marcus? Okay, just tell me have you

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>have you consulted with a lawyer? Have you even spoken

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 2>with a lawyer? Have you even called? I'm on the phone, No, Marcus,

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 2>call a law Marcus, hang up the phone right now, Marcus.

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna keeck Marcus, hang up the Marcus. I what

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 2>time is it in Australia right now?

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Six am?

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Six am? Okay, Marcus? What were you doing up so

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 2>late or early? You have to work?

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't have what till ten I am, but

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get the fuck out of the assid

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>whether it won't pay any of my family.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 2>How How old are you? Marcus?

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Twenty six?

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:38.879
<v Speaker 2>Twenty six?

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 2>And you Marcus? Man? Listen? First of all, look, I

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 2>appreciate you, you know, being down to talk about all

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 2>this shit. I'm screaming at you that you need to

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 2>call a lawyer. I get the fear, right, I get

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 2>the fear of like, oh, you'll you know, like retaliation

0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 2>from your boss or whatever. But like this is like,

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>like this it happens to people, and there are like

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 2>people who professionally help people who this shit happens to.

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Because right because you don't have anyone on your side

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:13.959
<v Speaker 2>right now, you just have your fucking it's just you

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 2>and your buddies and your versus like your your boss,

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 2>who's clearly not on your side, and you gotta go

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 2>fucking talk to somebody who's on your You got to

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 2>call a lawyer, man. Like it like the fact that

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 2>you even like if you had told me you were like, yeah,

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 2>I consulted with a lawyer and they told me that

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 2>you know this, that and the other reason why I

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:41.319
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't you know, fight back, and you know I'd have

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 2>to retain that, Like but but yeah, you haven't even

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 2>had a converse. I have a conversation with a lawyer, bro.

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Just call one. Just call a lawyer. Just please please

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>call it. Please just call call a lawyer today.

0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I get and and and by everything that you're talking

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 2>about on the on this fucking show right now about

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 2>like oh I'm afraid about this. I'm afraid it's gonna

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:05.760
<v Speaker 2>be a hassle. I'm afraid that you know, they're gonna retaliate.

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna lose my job. I'm afraid of this. Write

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 2>down every single one of those fucking fears. Okay, then

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 2>you call a lawyer and you tell them every single

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 2>one of those fears, and then have somebody have you know,

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:20.799
<v Speaker 2>have them explain to you. I mean it's literally their

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 2>job to deal with people in your situation. Go fucking

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.360
<v Speaker 2>call like a workman's comp lawyer man and be and

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:29.439
<v Speaker 2>be vulnerable and be honest with them about all these

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 2>fears that you have about this situation, and like gets

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 2>get some help.

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Dude, that's good, boss.

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 2>And if you don't do it, I'm gonna come down

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 2>to Australia. I'm gonna fucking break your other leg.

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I there's a part of me that wants to do

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it because it's good at boss, and then there's a

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 1>part of me that doesn't want to do it, just

0:48:56.800 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>so you come down to Australia and bright the leg.

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I know I'm not going to break your other leg.

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to do that.

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, call a lawyer. I don't hold on. I'm gonna

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 2>i don't know what is workman. I'm on Google right now.

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Workmen's Comp lawyer, Sydney, Australia. Okay, there's a billion of them, bro,

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah go, there's so many, Bro, you gotta you gotta

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 2>call one of these lawyers. There's a billion of them,

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:31.360
<v Speaker 2>workmen's comp lawyers, low apart. Yeah go, I hope you

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 2>do this, man, I I I I It would make

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:36.959
<v Speaker 2>me so happy if you took my advice and called

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I called a lawyer instead of just like letting your

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:41.359
<v Speaker 2>boss fuck you like this.

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:43.400
<v Speaker 1>M hm.

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:48.399
<v Speaker 2>What's your family? Do you talk to your family about this? Ship?

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Do?

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>But uh, I feel like that don't really understand a

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of what oursers, so I'll just truck it to

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:03.479
<v Speaker 1>myself a lot of the time.

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm mm hmm, Bro, call a lawyer? Has anyone

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 2>else you talk to your friends about this?

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:17.880
<v Speaker 2>And what did they say? Did they tell you to

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 2>call lawyer?

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:22.399
<v Speaker 1>That never said call a lawyer? But I just think

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it's sucked up.

0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, are you gonna call lawyer today?

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call on today.

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna call lawyer today?

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Because you have told me too? Yeah?

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank god? Good? Please please please and be and

0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:44.840
<v Speaker 2>tell them everything, tell them like, because because I don't know,

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't quell your fears because I'm a gecko and

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:50.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm a I'm a gecko ten thousand miles away

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 2>from you call call a lawyer. Okay. I feel it

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:57.440
<v Speaker 2>would make it genuinely if you call a lawyer. If

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 2>you call a lawyer and then you d emmulate and

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 2>you're like I called lawyer and he told me all

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 2>the stuff and it made me feel better. That would

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 2>make me very happy. So I hope you do that.

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Marcus Marcus, Marcus, Marcus Marcus Marcus. Mmmm well, all right, man,

0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna end. I'm gonna end this so

0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 2>that you can go call a lawyer. If because I

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 2>because you're probably in your head. If I've convinced you

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 2>to do it, I'm gonna let you do it right now,

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not gonna break it.

0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Any lawyers are off at six, I m uh.

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 2>No, you should go back to bed. Maybe nine. Let's

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 2>go back to bed. Uh Marcus, is there anything else

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 2>you want to say to the people of the computer

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 2>before we go?

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think about that one. It's fun if I

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:50.840
<v Speaker 1>don't have anything to say.

0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Of course it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. Of course it's fine.

0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:58.480
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to have anything to say. Okay, just

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 2>go call a lawyer. I somebody give me account of

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:02.840
<v Speaker 2>how many times I said that over the course of

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:08.760
<v Speaker 2>this uh phone call. Okay, good good luck, Marcus.

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, I appreciate it, all right, take care of him.

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Man. I don't know what that is. I don't know

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 2>what that is. Is that like a low is it

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 2>like a low self esteem thing?

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:25.239
<v Speaker 2>What is I like, what is it that is preventing

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:30.719
<v Speaker 2>this gentleman from calling a lawyer? Shit, dude, That's what

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I would do if I was in a situation like that.

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean damn, because he's just yeah, all this,

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff that he's talking about. You know, it's

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 2>so funny that there's an entire like this is so dumb.

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 2>But it's crazy to me that there's a whole continent

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:56.880
<v Speaker 2>of other of people who have that accent, like the

0:52:56.920 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 2>law Like, if he calls a lawyer, the lawyer is

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna like be like an Australia and he's gonna talk,

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:04.920
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna have that accent. The boss who's fucking them

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:08.920
<v Speaker 2>over has an accent. The guy the person who gave that.

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 2>All the doctors they have that accent. That's kind of

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 2>crazy to me. Hello, Hey, what's up? What's your name?

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 2>My name is May May. What's up?

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:18.799
<v Speaker 1>May?

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 2>How's life.

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:25.800
<v Speaker 4>Crazy? Just finished my finals? So next pustential crisis?

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Why Why is finishing your finals giving you an existential crisis?

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 4>Well, honestly, I'm just scared of the adult world. Like

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:39.799
<v Speaker 4>it's just the main reason. Like I just finished neuroscience,

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 4>but now I don't have a job because the job

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 4>applications I applied to just no funding and I just

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:48.200
<v Speaker 4>got fired.

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Well we oh no, what were you doing before you

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 2>were fired?

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:57.759
<v Speaker 4>So like a college student but like it's technically not

0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 4>a fire, but just got let go after they said like,

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, we can't hire you anymore, so we got

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:06.319
<v Speaker 4>to let you go. And I'm like, but you didn't

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:06.960
<v Speaker 4>even hire me.

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 2>And what this is? Uh, this is a neuros You

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:15.560
<v Speaker 2>got a neuroscience degree, yep.

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:18.439
<v Speaker 4>And and I was looking into like maybe I want

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:24.760
<v Speaker 4>to do research, but now like honestly yeah, and also

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 4>like a lot of like things happened around me, Like

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:33.399
<v Speaker 4>neuroscience research is wild. All the research I've been into

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:37.160
<v Speaker 4>is like the only normal thing I got into children research.

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 4>Every other thing is wild.

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:43.400
<v Speaker 2>What what tell me about? Tell me about the wild things?

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 4>So like when I when people ask me of like, okay,

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.759
<v Speaker 4>so what are you studying right now? I'm like it's

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:55.319
<v Speaker 4>kind of like awkward to like explain to them that,

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:57.840
<v Speaker 4>like it's basically lebotomizing like raps.

0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 2>We all know that we no, no, no, look listen, listen, listen.

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:05.239
<v Speaker 2>May you can, may you can be all KOI on

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 2>this phone call. But we know you guys are sucking

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 2>up some rats. We look, we look, we get we

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:14.280
<v Speaker 2>get it. We we have all, we have all collectively

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:18.560
<v Speaker 2>as a society, decided that we can fuck up an

0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:22.680
<v Speaker 2>infinite amount of rats in pursuit of our own in

0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 2>pursuit of the furtherance of our own of our own species.

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 4>And we're okay with that degree, Like the degree of

0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 4>like fucking up rats. I just thought like, oh, probably

0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:36.200
<v Speaker 4>just animal testing degree, right, Yeah, But I didn't. I

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 4>didn't find not to like shoot up cocaine interrats.

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:44.120
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because I actually I feel bad for you,

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:46.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe because we are we're all like I'm sure that

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:49.680
<v Speaker 2>my daily I'm sure that there are so many aspects

0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:53.160
<v Speaker 2>of my daily life that are the way they are

0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:57.360
<v Speaker 2>because of lots of people killing lots of rats. But

0:55:57.480 --> 0:56:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm what, I'm lucky because I don't have to. I'm

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 2>not the one who has to kill the rats and

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:04.080
<v Speaker 2>you're the one who has.

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:08.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so like like one good like I think, like

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:11.520
<v Speaker 4>one good thing like that probably like I was like, yeah,

0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:13.879
<v Speaker 4>I didn't like it was my calling to end up here?

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 4>Is like sure, I don't like like animost like I

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 4>find man was cute. It's just like I don't every

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 4>single time when someone's like, oh, a dog, it's kind

0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:26.799
<v Speaker 4>of like, okay, yeah it's a dog, but like I

0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:28.719
<v Speaker 4>still kind of feel bad. So it's kind of like

0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:31.800
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people are like yeah, we like even

0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 4>my mom like and my brother, they're like, yeah, if

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 4>you didn't get a degree and something weird, like we

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:42.960
<v Speaker 4>expected you to go into the military or some kind

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 4>of like or like she just she literally just like

0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:49.600
<v Speaker 4>told me like, if you don't end up a serial killer,

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:51.880
<v Speaker 4>like I'm just happy for you, preferably a doctor.

0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you've been lobotomizing rats for.

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:02.880
<v Speaker 4>Four years, Like I just dipped because like levant like

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:07.239
<v Speaker 4>the lab, They're like they're sure, like they just do

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 4>weird things, but there's snobby about it. So like I

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 4>ended up in like children research, which but what I

0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 4>still do is kind of weird because I just put

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 4>electrodes on kids' heads, like and I call parents saying like, hey,

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 4>can we have your child please? And like at first,

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 4>like I was questioning like why they chose me until

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 4>they got into recruitment process and I'm like, oh yeah,

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:34.600
<v Speaker 4>like with them for the first four minutes, I need

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:36.840
<v Speaker 4>to like explain to them what I'm why I'm calling

0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 4>for their children. Like I just go down and email

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.439
<v Speaker 4>list and like phone list and I just call every

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 4>parent and I'm like, okay, yeah, they're they're not going

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:53.080
<v Speaker 4>to like find like a young girl or like young

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:58.920
<v Speaker 4>college students suspicious there, So why uh not?

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Why what what if you could like do anything with

0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 2>this degree, what would you do?

0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Like recently I figured out like I really like machines

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 4>and working with animals, Like not like I like animals,

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 4>but it's kind of like I don't like talking to

0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 4>people honestly, Like kids, I can deal because like, well

0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 4>they're not as complicated as adults, but like a lot

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:35.520
<v Speaker 4>of things happened in my life that I just want like, yeah,

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:43.120
<v Speaker 4>no humanity stocks. Like the reason oh yeah, I remember.

0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:48.360
<v Speaker 4>The reason why I called you is because, yeah, what

0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 4>is happening to the guys around me are like at

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:53.920
<v Speaker 4>least like men in the society, because like I'm not

0:58:53.960 --> 0:59:01.360
<v Speaker 4>going to sound like Missandress, but come on, like like

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:04.080
<v Speaker 4>like my guy friend of like eight years, like when

0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:05.920
<v Speaker 4>I was like talking about like, hey, I don't have

0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 4>a job, like but I still don't really want to

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 4>go into the military yet. And I was like, well,

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:15.680
<v Speaker 4>like as a half joke, I said, like, I mean

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 4>like Instagram is like either like pushing me towards the

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:20.960
<v Speaker 4>sugar baby or like the military, which I was the

0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:23.919
<v Speaker 4>same thing. And like after we like we just talked

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:26.640
<v Speaker 4>for like two hours, and we like I just had

0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 4>a beer and I was like, well, I'm not going

0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:33.520
<v Speaker 4>to get drunk, so like, oh screw that. So I

0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:36.000
<v Speaker 4>talked to him and like at the end of the conversation,

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 4>the two hour conversation, he wasn't acting weird. He suddenly

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:41.400
<v Speaker 4>goes into his room and said, like wait here, and

0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:44.440
<v Speaker 4>he pulls out a wat of cash and said like here,

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:47.480
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like I was in denial, but turns out

0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:50.760
<v Speaker 4>I was solicited and I was like, yeah, no, fuck that.

0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:58.800
<v Speaker 2>We he pulled out a lot of cash to like.

0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:01.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah before that, before that, like I was on the

1:00:01.840 --> 1:00:03.640
<v Speaker 4>phone call with him and I was like, hey, you're

1:00:03.640 --> 1:00:06.040
<v Speaker 4>doing okay, Like you had a rough patch with your

1:00:06.040 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 4>girlfriend and like he had a toxic relationship and I

1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:13.680
<v Speaker 4>was like, yeah, no, that's fucking toxic, Like you really

1:00:13.680 --> 1:00:15.440
<v Speaker 4>want to go down this road. And I was like,

1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:17.600
<v Speaker 4>I didn't say leave her, but it's kind of like

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:21.840
<v Speaker 4>it was even obvious to me that I was like, yeah,

1:00:22.360 --> 1:00:26.720
<v Speaker 4>that's not good. And I don't know what an infinitus

1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:30.560
<v Speaker 4>with him just decided to like he said like, yeah,

1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:33.120
<v Speaker 4>I just found like cash in my room, and I

1:00:33.200 --> 1:00:36.680
<v Speaker 4>was like he was talking about getting something nice and

1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:41.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm like no, So I ended up cutting contest.

1:00:42.920 --> 1:00:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, how you said you knew this guy for like

1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:47.880
<v Speaker 2>eight years.

1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:50.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, since like I don't know, like high school, like

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:53.920
<v Speaker 4>I actually come from like like I went to school

1:00:53.920 --> 1:00:57.400
<v Speaker 4>in Japan for and like since my both of my

1:00:57.440 --> 1:01:01.120
<v Speaker 4>parents were military, we moved around so like when I

1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:03.000
<v Speaker 4>first got here, he was one of the first few

1:01:03.080 --> 1:01:05.680
<v Speaker 4>friends I made. So they kind of stink.

1:01:07.160 --> 1:01:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:12.920
<v Speaker 4>So, but like, strangely enough, I don't feel sad, like

1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:19.480
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of like, well, it's just probably the people

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:23.000
<v Speaker 4>I knew throughout my life, because like, yeah, like I've

1:01:23.000 --> 1:01:27.280
<v Speaker 4>been robbed by like close people, almost got like a

1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:30.840
<v Speaker 4>murder attempt on my life while getting my degree, and

1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:35.880
<v Speaker 4>like I did work at like a dental office where

1:01:35.880 --> 1:01:38.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm like a random guy walks in and said like, yeah,

1:01:38.400 --> 1:01:40.840
<v Speaker 4>I just got stabbed the other day. I'm like, oh, yeah, sure,

1:01:41.080 --> 1:01:42.919
<v Speaker 4>should I just pull the back like see a little

1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:46.640
<v Speaker 4>bit back slower and I'm not crazy things happened, and

1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:50.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, well, should have soon that coming.

1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Hm hmm.

1:01:54.840 --> 1:01:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So like I don't want to think that like

1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:02.760
<v Speaker 4>like or like, oh you're crazy, but I'm like, okay, yeah,

1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:05.560
<v Speaker 4>but you guys have problems too, So at least I'm

1:02:05.960 --> 1:02:07.680
<v Speaker 4>upfront about mine.

1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Why who's telling you that you're crazy? And why why

1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:16.240
<v Speaker 2>are they saying you're crazy? Well?

1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:23.240
<v Speaker 4>My brother, but my brother is he like I just

1:02:23.400 --> 1:02:26.560
<v Speaker 4>like I usually joke about it, but like, yeah, sure,

1:02:26.640 --> 1:02:31.600
<v Speaker 4>like we went through the same ship because like, honestly,

1:02:31.720 --> 1:02:36.200
<v Speaker 4>my both of our like our parents were like did

1:02:36.240 --> 1:02:39.959
<v Speaker 4>not have a good time a lot. So he looks

1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:45.160
<v Speaker 4>at me and looking at me like I'm like nonchalant

1:02:45.160 --> 1:02:53.680
<v Speaker 4>about it, and he's like, yeah, so, uh, probably it's

1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:59.080
<v Speaker 4>just the shenanigans I get into. So yes, like the

1:02:59.120 --> 1:03:02.840
<v Speaker 4>moment I told him like, so another thing is like

1:03:05.040 --> 1:03:08.320
<v Speaker 4>actually like probably like the first time I was deciding

1:03:08.400 --> 1:03:11.320
<v Speaker 4>like I wanted to call you, was like I think

1:03:11.440 --> 1:03:15.600
<v Speaker 4>last year fall, but I'm just going to bring up

1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:20.000
<v Speaker 4>this now. But so I was on a research lab

1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:22.880
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, hey, this is actually kind of fun.

1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:25.640
<v Speaker 4>But turns out I don't know why my supervisor hated me.

1:03:26.440 --> 1:03:29.200
<v Speaker 4>So I got fired. But like I thought, I made

1:03:29.240 --> 1:03:32.160
<v Speaker 4>a friend. Then that friend went off to the deep

1:03:32.240 --> 1:03:37.400
<v Speaker 4>end because like she was on some substances and like

1:03:37.600 --> 1:03:40.200
<v Speaker 4>tried to run a sixty in the middle of the

1:03:40.240 --> 1:03:41.840
<v Speaker 4>mountains and I was like, oh.

1:03:41.960 --> 1:03:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Try to try to run. Try to run a what.

1:03:45.800 --> 1:03:48.840
<v Speaker 4>Like a sixty like sixty miles per hour on like

1:03:48.920 --> 1:03:52.640
<v Speaker 4>a mountain, like a dirt road, and I was just

1:03:52.680 --> 1:03:59.040
<v Speaker 4>sitting there of like yeah, shee you and she just

1:03:59.120 --> 1:04:01.680
<v Speaker 4>yelled at me to get off. So like yes, I

1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:04.440
<v Speaker 4>call the counseling services and say like, hey, this girl's

1:04:04.480 --> 1:04:07.240
<v Speaker 4>going off to deep and get her to my school

1:04:07.280 --> 1:04:11.200
<v Speaker 4>because we went to the same school, so I was like, yeah,

1:04:11.320 --> 1:04:14.240
<v Speaker 4>like getting my degree is I'm not cost my wife,

1:04:15.880 --> 1:04:20.360
<v Speaker 4>but hey, something happens. I guess.

1:04:22.200 --> 1:04:22.880
<v Speaker 2>How old are you?

1:04:22.880 --> 1:04:26.600
<v Speaker 4>May twenty three?

1:04:27.120 --> 1:04:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and you're just you're graduating. Well yeah, okay, it's

1:04:31.720 --> 1:04:35.320
<v Speaker 2>it's it's May, so you're graduating.

1:04:35.760 --> 1:04:42.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, okay. So but at least on the bright side,

1:04:44.240 --> 1:04:46.800
<v Speaker 4>I got a good GPA and graduating.

1:04:46.240 --> 1:04:52.680
<v Speaker 2>So for me, hooray for fucking sure. Are you do

1:04:52.720 --> 1:04:53.720
<v Speaker 2>you have like a I mean, like, do you have

1:04:53.760 --> 1:04:56.000
<v Speaker 2>like a guidance counselor at the school who's like, Yo,

1:04:56.080 --> 1:04:57.520
<v Speaker 2>here's how we're gonna help you get a job.

1:04:58.760 --> 1:05:01.200
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, they see me, like they see me so

1:05:01.200 --> 1:05:04.880
<v Speaker 4>many times, like they like, actually, like the guidance councilor

1:05:04.880 --> 1:05:07.760
<v Speaker 4>I need to like contact all the science major kids

1:05:08.320 --> 1:05:10.760
<v Speaker 4>because my school is a small school, so they and

1:05:11.200 --> 1:05:14.960
<v Speaker 4>like actually like a private so they want everybody to

1:05:15.160 --> 1:05:17.120
<v Speaker 4>like especially like get out with a job or at

1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:20.720
<v Speaker 4>least with a job. So like they're like trying to

1:05:20.760 --> 1:05:23.480
<v Speaker 4>get everybody to a program. But they're like, well you

1:05:23.520 --> 1:05:25.840
<v Speaker 4>can gut you guys can contact me for the next

1:05:25.880 --> 1:05:28.600
<v Speaker 4>five years. So like even they're panicking.

1:05:29.480 --> 1:05:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry they say. They say, they said, if what

1:05:32.400 --> 1:05:34.439
<v Speaker 2>do you can't contact them for the past five years?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh no, like the next five years, like I still

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<v Speaker 4>can use their resources. So they're like, well contact does

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<v Speaker 4>and my current like supervisor who's like on the research

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<v Speaker 4>are like saying, hey apply here, hey apply there, and

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<v Speaker 4>even like I took a gap year. So my friends

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<v Speaker 4>are trying to like get me into jobs. But I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just like when things get so bad, it just

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<v Speaker 4>gets gets absurdly bad, and I'm like, well, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 4>entertained for.

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<v Speaker 2>What does he say that one more time?

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<v Speaker 4>Like when things get so bad, like it just becomes

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<v Speaker 4>like entertaining at some point, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm mmmm. You have friends who are helping you

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<v Speaker 2>try to get into jobs. Yeah, who are these friends?

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<v Speaker 4>Like friends who like graduated like biology and like microbiology,

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<v Speaker 4>and I feel like the like school friends like I

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<v Speaker 4>went to school because and alumni, and then there's friends

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<v Speaker 4>from the high school that I still have contact with.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, that's a yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All all these all these I think all these these

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<v Speaker 2>are all legitimate yea's, these are all legitimate yea's. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's not like I think like I'm not calling

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<v Speaker 4>depressed or like calling to cry about something because I

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<v Speaker 4>legit wanted to cry about something a few months ago,

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<v Speaker 4>but like now it passed. I'm like, well, yeah, why

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<v Speaker 4>did that happen? I'm prompted because like people are like

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<v Speaker 4>people are like I did get asked like, so did

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<v Speaker 4>you do anything? Like later down the road, like recently,

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<v Speaker 4>They're They're like, so you did anything, And I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I hate touching people, like and giving compliments like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know why that happened to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying you did anything?

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<v Speaker 4>Ah yeah, like getting in this much trouble. Like people

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<v Speaker 4>are like, so you're leading someone on, and I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I hate people. I don't mind touching.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, Like and when I was like shadowing like

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<v Speaker 4>the only like bright side, like the bright side of

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<v Speaker 4>like all this like weirdness because I have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of weird guy stories, but at least of all the

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<v Speaker 4>men who hit me, like I did hit way above

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<v Speaker 4>my tax bracket. So I'm like, hey, like I did

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<v Speaker 4>pull auseholds, but I did not pull a bum. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like I joke about people, but I'm like I'm still

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<v Speaker 4>not dating.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you said, up, you said you hit above

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<v Speaker 2>your tax bracket.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's all the people who were kind of weird

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<v Speaker 4>towards me or like there were assholes, but like legitimately

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<v Speaker 4>but at least, well they made more money than me.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, hey, at least I pulled someone above

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<v Speaker 4>my tax brackets. So I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>A win, sure, sure, sure, sure anywhen.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like, I mean, it's a weird way to

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<v Speaker 4>like try to find a bright side, but like there

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<v Speaker 4>is no bright side that like it's just absurd to

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<v Speaker 4>find like a one. So mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ah man, you know, uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I like I'm not even in the dating scene, but

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<v Speaker 4>like people in the dating scene, I just get a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit worried because if there's there's these weird guys

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<v Speaker 4>that people find attractive, is kind of like, so why

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<v Speaker 4>you want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is this something? Is that something that you like?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I mean the way you're talking about it, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's is that something that you want is like to

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<v Speaker 2>be dating? Nope?

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<v Speaker 4>Nope. Like halfway through college I come from like I

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<v Speaker 4>figured like I was completely as oh okay, like I

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<v Speaker 4>dipped out.

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<v Speaker 2>Like well, I mean that's I will say that is

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<v Speaker 2>one stressful part of life that I guess you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to participate in do you? I mean, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you How do you feel about that? Do you feel like?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it like a source of internal is maybe kind

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<v Speaker 2>of personal but like and you don't have to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about anything you don't want to talk about. But is

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<v Speaker 2>it like is it like a source of internal conflict

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<v Speaker 2>for you?

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<v Speaker 4>M No, Like I still have a fun time like

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<v Speaker 4>talking to people who are like generally fine, like interesting

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to and honestly, like I'm thinking, like, is

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<v Speaker 4>there anything besides in life then alcohol and research, because

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<v Speaker 4>I guess those things actually bringing joy. I guess we love.

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<v Speaker 4>I still love talking to people so like, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>not like this source of stress. Probably the only stress

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<v Speaker 4>is like a mom's like Japanese, so like every single

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<v Speaker 4>time I meet her side of the family, they're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>you're so pretty, Like why don't you like get married?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, yeah, can you can? I can you

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<v Speaker 4>just send me back to the lab? I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. May I hope that, uh well, first of all, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>may I hope was like helpful to or I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you I hope it was remotely helpful on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but I also want to say I hope

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Like probably like I would want an advice, but like

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time, like I do know for advice, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a sorry, go ahead, you sorry, go aheading just

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<v Speaker 2>a rupting you what were you saying?

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like probably half advice, like half question of

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<v Speaker 4>like why are people so weird like this? Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>like they get weird A doubt that, like like I

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<v Speaker 4>like the things I do for my like what I

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<v Speaker 4>want to do for a job, but then they like

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<v Speaker 4>get weird, and I'm like, so, why you guys weird?

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<v Speaker 2>I nobody has any fucking answers as to why anyone

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<v Speaker 2>is the way they are. I mean maybe they do,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, look, I I'll just say this, I hope. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's no fucking secret that you know. I'm uh, have

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<v Speaker 2>have struggled myself with like negative perceptions of of the

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<v Speaker 2>world and whatnot, and I'm no, I'm no expert in

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<v Speaker 2>fixing those things. I don't have any I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>had anything like inspiring necessarily, but I mean I don't know, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>do you talk to a therapist.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I did, but now I'm graduating because I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to lose that privilege. Yeah, well, like I still like

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<v Speaker 4>have people who I can talk to. I guess, so

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<v Speaker 4>it's not much of a big deal for me or

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<v Speaker 4>like it's not like oh I'm alone or like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to be sad. But it's still just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like the thing that I just accepted I need to

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<v Speaker 4>deal and why are you I kN.

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<v Speaker 3>Mhm.

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<v Speaker 4>But still I'm like like it's kind of like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel it's like I'm kind of uncalled for.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what's what's uncalled for therapy?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like people just I mean my genuine

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<v Speaker 4>question like after like I didn't think I was going

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<v Speaker 4>to graduate with the question like why are people so weird?

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<v Speaker 4>Like sure, like in neuroscience, like you learn about behavior,

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<v Speaker 4>so and what I figured out was like, yeah, people

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<v Speaker 4>are weird. And then I learned about like in the

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<v Speaker 4>field like in neurosense of psychology, everybody's like drugged up,

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<v Speaker 4>like like like all.

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<v Speaker 2>The other all the other researchers are like taking a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like that really like one researcher like who I

1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:33.160
<v Speaker 4>was like working with it. She was like right after

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<v Speaker 4>a conference, she just like went straight to dispensary and

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<v Speaker 4>like got gout, like got some weed. And I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't do weeds, but I'm an alcoholic, so I

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<v Speaker 4>don't do weat And it's just like okay, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean yeah yeah. Self medicating is definitely, it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely a thing. Definitely thing I always I always have.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to imagine. I have to imagine it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of interesting like being in the field like neuroscience, where

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<v Speaker 2>you I assume you have your studying all these things

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<v Speaker 2>about like fucking like dopamine and serotonin and noah, per

1:15:17.479 --> 1:15:20.800
<v Speaker 2>nephrine all this, all these like brain chemicals and so

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<v Speaker 2>you have like a it must be kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>it must be a psychedelic, bizarre contradict. You no look

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<v Speaker 2>like like like I've always I've always.

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<v Speaker 4>People like the old tenures or like the old people

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<v Speaker 4>who are like have white hair in the field. They're

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<v Speaker 4>like you think they're going to be the smartest, but

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<v Speaker 4>like they're the people who were doing it from the nineties,

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, okay, you're worse than us.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was gonna say it must be kind of

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<v Speaker 2>weird to like have this logical understanding of how the

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<v Speaker 2>brain works from like a very very empirical point of

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<v Speaker 2>view and then still be a fucking slave to it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And then still you do do all this research,

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<v Speaker 2>you learn about, all the chemicals you learn, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>still a fucking slave to the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's insane, No, it's it's wild, like at least like

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<v Speaker 5>like actually, like I got like a work like when

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<v Speaker 5>I was taking psychopharmacology, which is like basically gay drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's a study about drugs. So we had always

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<v Speaker 4>had like this homework of like where we read like

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<v Speaker 4>a case study or a prompt about like this person

1:16:26.240 --> 1:16:29.040
<v Speaker 4>going through something like it could be medical. But like

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<v Speaker 4>one of the papers where they were like, so this

1:16:32.320 --> 1:16:35.760
<v Speaker 4>guy decided to make compound during his chemistry class and

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<v Speaker 4>decided to use it. Then suddenly his arms and legs

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<v Speaker 4>won't move. What happened? And I'm like, oh, he's a

1:16:41.439 --> 1:16:50.600
<v Speaker 4>fucking boy. So I'm like, why did you do that? Guy? So,

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<v Speaker 4>but like we need to explain like how the dopamine

1:16:53.800 --> 1:17:03.360
<v Speaker 4>pathway works. And I was like, well, like yeah, may

1:17:04.000 --> 1:17:06.920
<v Speaker 4>everybody is at last everybody like I can just say

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<v Speaker 4>it from like a star here, but like looking at people,

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<v Speaker 4>even like people at regular fields, it's kind of like

1:17:13.120 --> 1:17:15.519
<v Speaker 4>you're a slave to something. At least make it interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a You're always going to be a slave to something.

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<v Speaker 2>At least make it interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess that's I guess you are always going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a slave to some I mean everyone is a slave

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<v Speaker 2>to like I mean, everyone's a slave to like their

1:17:31.680 --> 1:17:35.960
<v Speaker 2>own mortality at the end of the day. I mean, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's not true. Maybe you're not a slave to

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<v Speaker 2>it if you don't fear it or you don't think

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And like I'll be the first to admit, like

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<v Speaker 4>I like I do take stressful jobs, like the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Like even during college, I took stressful jobs because I think,

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<v Speaker 4>like the moment you're about like you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 4>about to fail, and like you don't, it's like the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest high I will ever get. It's kind of like, yes,

1:18:03.280 --> 1:18:07.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm better than It's like so rewarding to me that,

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<v Speaker 4>Like people are like, so why do you torture yourself?

1:18:10.080 --> 1:18:15.840
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, well it makes me feel better about myself. Hmm,

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<v Speaker 4>Well I find joy in it. So I'm like, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, Hey, I'm actually finding joy and helping people.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, good, dear God good. Uh. I'm gonna go ahead

1:18:30.280 --> 1:18:33.280
<v Speaker 2>and be optimistic that you and uh for whatever, for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever this word fucking means, uh manifest I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I I I predict you'll be able to find some

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<v Speaker 2>job or or thing or role or whatever the fuck

1:18:46.240 --> 1:18:47.840
<v Speaker 2>in the world where you can help where you where

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like you can help somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>YEP, I hope so too.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, maybe you helped somebody by talking on this

1:18:56.800 --> 1:18:59.519
<v Speaker 2>show and they're like, oh, okay, I understand. I have

1:19:00.240 --> 1:19:03.160
<v Speaker 2>or thoughts and at least I'm not alone in my

1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:05.120
<v Speaker 2>crazy photo thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like I like pop like pop into like

1:19:08.840 --> 1:19:11.559
<v Speaker 4>watch your show's time to time, and like people like

1:19:11.640 --> 1:19:15.880
<v Speaker 4>there are some episodes some like people feel guilt over it,

1:19:15.920 --> 1:19:17.960
<v Speaker 4>and I'm I'm like, hey, the smartest people in the

1:19:17.960 --> 1:19:20.320
<v Speaker 4>world actually have the same problems with you, at least,

1:19:20.360 --> 1:19:23.519
<v Speaker 4>like they're high functioning. Don't feel bad about it.

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<v Speaker 2>May is there anything else you want to say to

1:19:26.520 --> 1:19:35.320
<v Speaker 2>the people of the computer before we go, Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>I like.

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<v Speaker 4>There's weird jobs around there. I guess probably, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>just wanted to like ask everybody like, how do you

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<v Speaker 4>become a decent human being? Because I don't know either.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you become a decent human being? Well, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no objective, Uh, there is no objective measure of

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<v Speaker 2>what is a decent human being. I mean there's a

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's a lot of general consensuses. Humans generally reach

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<v Speaker 2>the consensus that murdering people is bad, but there is

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<v Speaker 2>no like, I mean, if it's all chaos, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>real Well, how do you become a decent human being?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess you you in your brain, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I guess. I guess you, as an individual, come

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<v Speaker 2>up with your own definition of what it means to

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<v Speaker 2>be a decent human being, and then you try as

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<v Speaker 2>hard as you can within your own primal human limitations

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, do that. I guess. I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of form your own fucking thing. And then and

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<v Speaker 2>the great news is is that if you fuck up,

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<v Speaker 2>you can just lower your own bar.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I think. Yeah, I did not think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know, try the best you can.

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<v Speaker 5>May, Yeah, thank you, man, what a crazy podcast that

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing here.

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<v Speaker 2>That was May, and that was Collette and that was fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the name of the Australian guy who's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>who better fucking call a lawyer? He better called they?

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<v Speaker 2>Was his name? Maverick Josh something like that. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>has been the Therapy getto podcast. Uh, this was a fun,

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<v Speaker 2>fun This was an engaging episode. I felt very engaged

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<v Speaker 2>for all these conversations. I hope you enjoyed it as

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<v Speaker 2>a listener. This was a good so yeah, man, this

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<v Speaker 2>was a good episode. This was cool. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Man, A lot of the times I sit

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<v Speaker 2>down to do this and I'm sit down to like

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<v Speaker 2>do a stream and I'm like, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I can do this, And then sometimes, you know, shut

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<v Speaker 2>the laptop off and I'm like, wow, that was actually

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<v Speaker 2>that was a good episode. Those were some Those were

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<v Speaker 2>some engaging conversations. Uh, this is one of them. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for being along on the journey. Crazy Planet. We're living

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<v Speaker 2>on crazy planet. I don't have anything else to say.

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<v Speaker 2>The vivance hasn't hasn't worn off yet, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go I don't want to do a push up or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it. I don't have anything else to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have anything else to say, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make more YouTube video that YouTube video

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<v Speaker 2>that I posted on Sunday, which you can find on

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<v Speaker 2>my YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash Lyle Forever. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to make more stuff like that. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>make more stuff. I want to do more things. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be alive. I wanna I want to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to want. I wanna continue to feel and think and

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<v Speaker 2>not you know, be okay, just be okay, enjoy life,

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<v Speaker 2>look at stuff, eat things. We're okay, everything's all right, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>End of podcast goes on the line taking your phone

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<v Speaker 2>calls every night.

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<v Speaker 1>The beacon goes to it and ride.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just teaching you a loud.

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<v Speaker 4>In the of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's not read me an expert