1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to Jojossua Now with me Jojo Siua and 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio podcast. Oh boy, welcome back to Jojasa Now my podcast. 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: I just wanna say, first of all, thank you so 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: much for all of. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: The love on Jojo Sea Now. It has been insane. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: This podcast is new. 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: It's new for me. 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I've done a billion people's podcasts, but to 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: now have my own and for it to just be 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: getting so much love and support means the absolute world 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: to me. 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: So thank you so much. 13 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: Anyways, if you're new here, I am Jojo Sia and 14 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: about two years ago I got to meet one of 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: my best friends in the entire world. 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: I got to meet her. 17 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Because we were the first ever same sex couple to 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: be on Dancing with the Stars. It was pretty cool 19 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: and normally, you know, there's a guy pro and a 20 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: girl star or a girl pro and a guy star, 21 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: but we were the first female female duo. 22 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: And so today I am joined by one of. 23 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: My favorite people in the world, Miss Jenna Johnson. We 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: are about to go down memory lane. It's so hard 25 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: and I'm so excited. 26 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: Jannah, how are you. I'm good, I'm great. Yeah, I 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: just became a mom, I guess not just he's nine 28 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: and a half months, which is wild crazy, But yeah, 29 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: I'm a new mommy. I'm on Dancing with the Stars 30 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: right now, so I feel like there's a lot of 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: chaos going on while I'm adjusting to this new life. 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: But I love every second of it. It's amazing. Has 33 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: it been strange having a season being a mom. It's 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: a little strange because I usually know what to expect 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: during the season when it's just by myself and with Val, 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: but trying to manage being a good mom and not 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: feeling guilty being away from him, like all of those 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: things are hard, which I knew I would feel some 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: sort of way being away from him, But but it's 40 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: been really good for me to be back, and I 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: feel like then when I come home, I'm so much 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: more present and I'm more productive with my time, and 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: he just makes any bad rehearsal a good night, a 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: great day, you know. So, oh my, your baby is 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: just the cutest. I'm obsesseding. 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk about Rome a bunch more, but I just 47 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: anyone who doesn't know Dancing with the Stars, the pros 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: on the show are, I mean, so. 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Committed y'all are in. I remember. 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: I remember it was the first week of my season, 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: and then I actually like abused this a little bit. 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: I used to call you after rehearsals and like ask 53 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: something or be be curious about something, and I'd be 54 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: like'm sorry for about you after, like we're working, and 55 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: you always said you were like no, like because I 56 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: used to say, like, I know you're with your husband 57 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: right now, like I'm I'm sorry, I don't interrupt her 58 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: on a date or whatever. But you used to be like, no, 59 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: it's the season, Like you worem up. My partner is 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: my priority, like everything else aside. 61 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: But now with a baby, it's like that's I sip, Yeah, 62 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: you still have that, and again it is. It is weird. 63 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: You felt it when you're in the season of Dancing 64 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: with the Stars. You're in this bubble. There is nothing 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: like it. They're like, truly, nothing can burst that bubble 66 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: because you're so focused, so committed, and especially when you're 67 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: having a season like we did time committed. Yes, we're 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: spending a ton of time together and it's all we're 69 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: thinking about. We have to prep for the next week. 70 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: You know, you're worrying about this week's Dance with the 71 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: cost Like, and I always laugh because I signed up 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: to be a professional dancer on the show, but I 73 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: didn't know I was going to eventually become like a therapist, 74 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: a best friend in an arranged marriage for a couple 75 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: months with somebody. Like there's so many different roles that 76 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: you play with your new partner. And it's a weird 77 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: thing too, because you're immediately forced into this relationship. Yeah, 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: and you have to connect or else it just looks crazy. Yeah, 79 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: so it's wild. But yeah, that's why. Like when you're 80 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: texting me videos and asking me about your frame or something, 81 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, this is great. Let me get you 82 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: some notes real quick. While we're not in the studio. 83 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: We are gonna Di'm. 84 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: So deep into Dancing with the Stars Memories and I'm 85 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: so excited about it. 86 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: I actually I made this little game. 87 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: It's not really a game, but it's something that we'll 88 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: talk about where I'm just calling it Memories Unlocked because 89 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: I was like, there's so many things that I deeply 90 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: remember that I'm so curious if you do, and they'll 91 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: just they they'll flourish stories and we'll just we'll talk. 92 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: We'll talk before we get into dancing with the stars. 93 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: I like to talk to people because this podcast Jojosuwan 94 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: now is all about who you are now, but how 95 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: your past got you to where you are now. And 96 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: so I want to go back to little baby Jenna 97 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: Johnson living in Utah, dancing, going to school. I mean 98 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: I know, I know, because I mean I spent every 99 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: seventy five days in a. 100 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: Row with you. 101 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: I die that you counted, yeah, obviously, And also we 102 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: need to talk about the end of the seventy five days, 103 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: the melt down. 104 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, you burst your bubble and you're just 105 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: like devastated the melt down. 106 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: Do you remember when I came up to your house 107 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: with the banana muffins and I plucked your hair and. 108 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm just tears in your eyes and 109 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: like we live down the street from each other. It's okay, 110 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: so devastating. 111 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: Anyways, take me back to Jenna in Utah growing up. 112 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: What was your early like ten and underlife? 113 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I had an amazing childhood. I'm one of 114 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: six kids, and so I grew up in a really 115 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: big family and I just always remember being happy, you know, 116 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: and I love that for my childhood, but I yeah, 117 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: I think like ten and under, I always had best 118 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: friends around with my siblings and lots of cousins around, 119 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: which was so great. And then when I was three, 120 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: I have two older sisters and they were both involved 121 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: in dance, and my mom would take me to their 122 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 2: practices or whatever, and I guess I would like always 123 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: try to sneak into the baby class and I just 124 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: like wanted to be there. 125 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: So I know, wild no one loves dance like Jenna No, 126 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: So I my mom eventually put me into dance, and 127 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: I just never remember wanting to do anything else, Like 128 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: I loved being athletic and everything, but I think just 129 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: there was nothing in my mind that excited me like 130 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: danced it. 131 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 2: So from a very young age, I just always remember 132 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: that being a priority. And then, you know, start those 133 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: teenage years, I started realizing that this was a real 134 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 2: passion and that I really learned a lot of hard 135 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: work from dance. And I loved that mentality of like 136 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: it was on me to show up and I you know, 137 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: and I loved that I'm like maybe a psychopathist a 138 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: little bit, because yeah, I love a challenge, and I 139 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: loved when someone was like no, you can't do this. 140 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: I wanted to do it better. I wanted to do more. 141 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: So I think for this like little girl from Utah, 142 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: I was able to accomplish a lot, which was really exciting, 143 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: both in the contemporary world for people that don't know. 144 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: I grew up dancing in contemporary jazz, ballet, hip hop, 145 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: all of that, but then I also cross trained and 146 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: I started doing ballroom when I was about ten years old. 147 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: Funny enough, one of my first teachers was Julianna Huff. 148 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: She used to teach me. Yeah, we used to do privates. 149 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: She'd moved back to Utah from England for her high 150 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: school year or one of the high school years that 151 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: she was doing, and she would like, she was the 152 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: cutest thing in the world. How much older than you 153 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: is she? Oh, I don't want to hate her. I 154 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: think she's around VAL's age, so I think she's thirties, 155 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: mid thirties. Yeah, but yeah, she would teach me these 156 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: little lessons and I just remember watching her do ballroom 157 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: and I was infatuated, like the way that she was 158 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: able to move her body. I'd never seen anything so 159 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: like feminis or sexy, but like in such a sophisticated way. 160 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: So I was crazy about ballroom. Is it is so hot, yes, 161 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: but so sleek like it just because you don't take 162 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: it to that like raunchy level. It's it's hot. But yeah. 163 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: So I remember, like when I was probably about like ten, 164 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I love this style. I want 165 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: to do this. So then until I was eighteen, I 166 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: cross trained in all of those different styles and it 167 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: was really exhausting. I didn't have a personal life. Looking 168 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: back now, I wish I would have enjoyed school a 169 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: bit more, but I think I was so focused on 170 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: what my future was and what I wanted to do, 171 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: and that was get out of Utah and become a 172 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: professional dancer. So looking back now, and I think now 173 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: raising a child, I really want I wish I would 174 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: have been a kid a little bit more, because I think, 175 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: you know, dance really matures you. It requires a level 176 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: of discipline and maturity that how many kids have. And 177 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: so I think high school Jenna, middle school, high school 178 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: Jenna became a bit more of a recluse, and I 179 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: didn't feel like I really fit in with other kids 180 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: my age or had much to relate to. I'm sure 181 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: you can relate to that, but I just feel like 182 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: I just was on a different path, you know. And 183 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: I didn't care about going to high school football games 184 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: because I had rehearsal and I need it was important. Yeah, 185 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: And I needed to schedule more lessons and more privates, 186 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: and I need to work on my solo harder. And 187 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: I needed to practice with my ballroom partner, like would 188 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: you like more ballroom or the other side of the 189 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 2: dance world. It always, it always switched. I think when 190 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: I was going to conventions and things like, I was like, 191 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: this is what I want to do. And I really 192 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: attribute Mandy Moore. She was on convention when I was 193 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: when I was growing up, and I remember taking her 194 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: class and being like, I want to do this, like 195 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 2: I want to be her. I want to inspire kids, 196 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: I want to teach, and I want to do that 197 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 2: like she really, I think has influenced me the most 198 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: as a teacher or a mentor. But then I'd go 199 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: to these ballroom competitions or the World Championships that you know, 200 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: only two people from your country get to represent, and 201 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: I qualified for that, and so then I went and 202 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: I was in China representing the United States of America 203 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: and I was like, what is this, Like this is 204 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: the closest thing to the Olympics that ballroom has and 205 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: I was there, yeah, you know. So it was this 206 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: constant like poll of which one do I love more? 207 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: And I could never choose. 208 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 209 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: So then cut to I was eighteen and my ballroom 210 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: partner and I had just broken up. It was like 211 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: really dramatic before one of our biggest competitions, and I 212 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: kind of just felt. 213 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: Broken up, like y'all were like in a relationship, broken up, 214 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: just like damn dinners. 215 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: So it's funny because you're, yeah, you break up like 216 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: a relationship, it's just your partnership. But so, yeah, we 217 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: had a very dramatic breakup, and I remember being so 218 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: stuck and I was like, well, now what do I do? 219 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: Because at that point I had really told myself I'm 220 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: to be a ballroom dancer, Like I want to be 221 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: a world champion, That's what I want to do. And 222 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: so when we broke up, I was kind of stuck. 223 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: I had just graduated high school. I was still living 224 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: at my parents' house and my mom, I love her, 225 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: she was like, you know what, I just looked it 226 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: up and so you think you can dance. Auditions are 227 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: next week. It's in Memphis, Tennessee. It's like the last 228 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: one left. We should go. Yeah, I was like, no, 229 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: what am I going to audition? As Like, I don't 230 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: know if that's for me. 231 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 232 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: I loved the show, but I just didn't know if I, yeah, 233 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: if I would do well anyway, since I. 234 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: Think you were smart enough to know that, like a 235 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: lot more goes into something like that than just your talent. 236 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: Well time, I had seen both of my older sister's 237 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: audition for it, and funny enough, they'd both made it 238 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: to the top twenty and then we're eliminated right before 239 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: you make it to the show, you know. So they 240 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: were like, it's called Green Mile. It used to be 241 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: called the Green Mile back in our day, but I 242 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 2: call it that, but then it was it wasn't that, 243 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: but we called it out. We judged. Yeah, So when 244 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: I knew how amazing they were, so I was like, 245 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: you know, if they're getting cut, there's no way I'm 246 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: making this because they trained me my whole life. So anyway, 247 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: my mom she really like had a huge impression that 248 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: we should go to these auditions in Tennessee, and so 249 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: I was like, this is so weird. I called up 250 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: my old ballroom partner Landon Anderson and we flew out. 251 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: We practiced like literally one time, and as most do, 252 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: like it's so wild. 253 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: When you think about like the really good, great dancers, 254 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: they're the ones that are like, yeah, one rehearsal, make 255 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: sure we have it together, and then we'll call it 256 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: the Like. 257 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: I think that's the best way to do it, because 258 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: I think the more pressure I would have put on myself, 259 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: the worse I would have done. Yeah, and that's actually 260 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: what happened to me on the live show. I'll get 261 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: to that. But we went to the audition. I ended 262 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: up getting a ticket, went to the vagas you should. 263 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: I made it all the way through and it just 264 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: like not was easy, but I was like making it 265 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: through when there were any weird doing hurdles. Yeah, so 266 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: I made it onto the live show. Then comes the 267 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: live show and I was nowhere near Jenna Johnson like 268 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: it just I guess I'd never learned how to be 269 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: on camera, and no one really teaches you that in 270 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: the studio life, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, 271 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: always ready to pan the same thing. Producers are very 272 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: good at putting pressure on. Yeah. I guess I just 273 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: didn't understand the concept because I felt like I was 274 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 2: one of the better dancers there, but I wasn't connecting 275 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: to the audience at home. Yeah, And so then I 276 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: felt like I was forcing. Yeah. 277 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: I was like not in the bottom every week, and 278 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: the judges just kept saving you. 279 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: I was in the bottom. I think I myself and 280 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 2: Robert roll Dan are the most. Are the two people 281 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: that were in the bottom three the most. I was 282 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: in the bottom three five times, five times. The judges 283 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: and then the choreographers. Back in the day, they would 284 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: like mingle, the choreographers and the judges would mingle and 285 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: save somebody, and they would always save you, and they 286 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: kept saving me, and I like time three, I was 287 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: like just send me home, like please the model anymore. 288 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: But then you look back at the group numbers and 289 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: I was kind of like in the center or how 290 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: to part every time. And it's because they knew me 291 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: from the convention world. They knew like what I was 292 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: capable of. I just wasn't coming across and on camera 293 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: to the audience. I don't know how you were to 294 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: work with it as a kid, but I know as 295 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: a as a teacher, how you are as an adult, 296 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: so I can only imagine how good of a student 297 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: you were to them. I loved being a student. I 298 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: loved it. I love I love rules, I love following direction. 299 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: I like this. 300 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: This is love special forces because you are just like 301 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: give me something, give me a task. 302 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: It goes back to like that psycho thing of like 303 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: a challenge the root. The harder you are, the more 304 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: I want to prove you wrong or like show up anyway. 305 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: So I did like my time on Say You Think 306 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: You Can Dance? I didn't love it because I feel 307 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: like that was also the first time I ever experienced 308 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: maybe like some depression or anxiety or like some mental 309 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: health stuff and really question It was the first time 310 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: that I ever questioned myself, is like am I good enough? Yeah? 311 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: You know, or like had doubts about myself because other 312 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: people were telling me them. And so I think that 313 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: was like the first time that I ever came across 314 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: like some mental health situation, which was weird to be 315 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: experiencing in front of a massive audience on a TV 316 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: show live. 317 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: Was it weird to experience that feeling as you were 318 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: old enough to comprehend it? Because I feel like I 319 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: experienced that, but I was nine, you know what I mean? 320 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: And it was probably my first time was on Abby's Ultimate, 321 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: where I was like, am I good enough to be hearing? 322 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm not as good as everybody else? Like what's like? 323 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: What can I do? 324 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: But at nine you can't you can't really understand what 325 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: that means, Like you go, didn't you find a cutie orange? 326 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, I'm happy now, But like at eighteen, 327 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: you know that's gonna affect you a lot more. 328 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: It was also very drastic for my brain to process 329 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: because again I don't want to sound concede it or anything, 330 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: but just facts. I had been winning everything both in 331 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: the jazz world and in the ballroom work, dance, well 332 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: you know you can your jazz titles. I had accomplished 333 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: all of these things, and so then to constantly be 334 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: like put in the bottom and not as good it 335 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: was like a first time for me of like wait 336 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: a minute, but I'm doing everything right, or I'm trying 337 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: to like why is this not happening for me? So yeah, 338 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: it was really weird. And then I think another part 339 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: is usually my family is my go to circle for 340 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: anything for advice, you know, help, And none of them 341 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: knew how to communicate with me or talk to me 342 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: about what I was feeling or going through because they 343 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: weren't experiencing it. So they were there for me for sure, 344 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: but like, I didn't have anybody to relate to, and yeah, 345 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: what do I do in this situation? How do I 346 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: not feel this way? 347 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: You know? 348 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: So I think that was a little bit weird. Yeah, 349 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: it's crazy how much being around your family can help, Yes, 350 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: And you don't realize it until you're away from them, 351 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: and then you're like, oh yeah. And it was the 352 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: first time. Also, I was eighteen. It was the first 353 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: time I ever lived away from my family but cut too. 354 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: So then after that experience, I did make it to 355 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 2: the top eight, which was pretty pretty awesome. But then 356 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: they brought me back as an All Star and they 357 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: kept bringing me back as an All Star, and I 358 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: just like, I feel like that was the time I 359 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: really learned how to be on camera. 360 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: To. 361 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: Showcase myself and not have to be somebody else but 362 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: just to be Jenna and that was enough. And I 363 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: really learned a lot from the choreographers there, and so 364 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: I feel like that really then prepared me to then 365 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: get into Dancing with the Stars, and you know what 366 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: we film, so you think the dance and Dancing with 367 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: the Stars at CBS. It's at the same lot and 368 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: they're across from the hall from each other. So that's 369 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: kind of how I was found. 370 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, what was your how did 371 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: you get on Stars? 372 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: How did you start Stars? It was so wild. I 373 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: just got a phone call one day. I had just 374 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 2: gone on the So you think you could Dance Tour 375 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: and I got a phone call from a producer saying, Hey, 376 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: we'd love for you to come audition for Dancing with 377 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: the Stars. And I was like, you've got to be 378 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: kidding me, because that's like the ultimate for dancers. The 379 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: industry is like. 380 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: Especially too, Like anyone who doesn't know the dance world 381 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: would would not know this, But there is like I mean, 382 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to explain it. Utah and 383 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: ballroom dancers and. 384 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars. 385 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: There is just a thing something in the water. Then 386 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 1: there's something in the water there. But almost every freaking 387 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: pro from Dancing with the Stars has come from Utah 388 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: and all of the ones that will be upcoming, Like 389 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: you can see it happening. All the all the kids 390 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: that were on Dancing with the Stars juniors as pros, 391 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: all from Utah, like they're just. 392 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: Something in the water. I'm telling it might be the 393 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: discipline thing. I'm not sure, but yeah, we yeah, we 394 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: all just And so then there's that laway here reputation. 395 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: There like everyone wants to be on Stars because all 396 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: the people before you went, you know what I mean. 397 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: And so again there's no, we don't have any contacts 398 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: at the time. How is that possible? Yeah? And so 399 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: I got called, I auditioned, and I got picked up, 400 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: which was incredible. Did you go straight to pro or 401 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: did you do true? I was on Troop. Yeah, I 402 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: was on Troope for about five seasons. And for those 403 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: that don't know what troop is, it's you're hired as 404 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 2: a professional. You just don't have a partner. And again, 405 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: that was I feel like I've had a lot of 406 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: like learning experiences in my career. That was also hard 407 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: because I'm looking at people that you know, my peers 408 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: and wondering why do they have a partner and why 409 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: don't I have a partner? Right, But I will say 410 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: now being able to look back, I'm so grateful that 411 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: I had that time because that's when I was rehearsing 412 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: with Mark Ballast, Derekuff val Max. They were all asking 413 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: me to come help them prep their routines, you know, 414 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: and work with them. And you guys have learned instead 415 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: of being thrown to the wolves. Yes, And I learned 416 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: what looks good on camera. At the time as well, 417 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: Mandy Moore was doing a lot of our group opening 418 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: numbers and she's just she's the one for me and 419 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: life like she's really I just want to be I 420 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: want to follow her example. But she was doing these 421 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: massive numbers and that's when I really feel like I 422 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: learned what orchestrating a number looks like, and how to choreograph, 423 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: how to space transitions, all of that stuff and TV 424 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: it's way the TV cameras. She was teaching me about 425 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 2: two shots study like white shots, all of this stuff 426 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 2: I've never heard of before. And the best way you 427 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: can learn that type of stuff is just experience experiencing it. 428 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: There's no book. There's no book on how to do TV. 429 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: There's no book on how to make a number for TV. 430 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: You just have to watch and learn. 431 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I'm grateful that if I did have 432 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: a pro partner, I wouldn't have had that time to 433 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: really be invested in experience this. So again, it all happens. 434 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 2: It was your first bro, Oh, your first star yea. 435 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: His name was Jake t Austin. He's the girl on 436 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: Max Max Max on Wizards. 437 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: Oh I did. I just saw that. I did just 438 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: see that, Cliff I knew this. Yeah, I just saw 439 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: that cliff on TikTok and I was like, no. 440 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: Way, she was with Max Brusso. I think they wanted 441 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: us to be like that young in love. It wasn't happening. No, No, 442 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: I was in love with a pro a bro. Were 443 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: you alone? It's crazy His name starts with the and 444 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: that's with al Nope. 445 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Not ringing about not ringout Max. Yeah, Max is Bell's brother. 446 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: Valan Jenna. I wish everyone in the world could see 447 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: you guys, Like the way that Valan Jenna are with 448 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: each other is like the relationship I want, but not 449 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: with a man. 450 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: Like I just I see you to it. I'm just 451 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: like I want that. I want that. Me and Ezra 452 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: talk about that all the time. 453 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Ezra, who is my best friend who John actually introduced us, 454 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: even though when we she introduced us. 455 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 2: She introduced him as his brother. Do you remember that, oh, 456 00:21:58,760 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: as my brother? 457 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: No brother, You were like, this is Tristan and I'm fired. 458 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 3: No. 459 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: We and az a door you We we we make 460 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: the joke all the time, but it's not a joke. 461 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: We're like the whole bane of our friendship is based 462 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: around our love for you. 463 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: Like that's why we. 464 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: Became friends, because we were both mutually obsessed with Dancing 465 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: with the Stars and have the same love for you. 466 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: Like it's it's great. We also he told me as 467 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: a shocker, who is also I mean, he's a he's 468 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: a He's not a pro on Dancing with the Stars. 469 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: It's not fair to call him that yet, but he 470 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: is well, he will be a pro and dancing with 471 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: the Stars. He filled in this season as a pro 472 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: for Ardam. When Ardam was sick. 473 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: He did troop. 474 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: He did he's been, he's in the he's in the 475 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: bubble and he he will be a pro. Were putting 476 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: that out there, but anyways, we him and I were 477 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: just talking and he was like, Oh, I'm gonna go 478 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: to Utah, shocker. 479 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: He's from Utah. And I was. 480 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: Like, I'm gonna go to Utah and then I can 481 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: like see all like the like famous things as see 482 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: ce like whatever you want to see there, and he goes, 483 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: I can tell you where Jenna grew up. That was 484 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: my I was like, I was like thinking, maybe like 485 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: your house. I was in the studio your house. Yeah, 486 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Jenna Johnson's house. I was like, guys, 487 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: are welcome. My mom would love us, Like, okay, I 488 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: want to go hang out with all your little nieces 489 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: and I love your mom. Your family's just the best. 490 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: All let's let's let's transition. So you do you do 491 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars? 492 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: You have you? 493 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you've had some incredible partners. I truthfully, before 494 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: before I did the show, I knew about the show, 495 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: but it didn't follow along as much as I should have, 496 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I didn't really understand the like, 497 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: but I do remember like hearing about you and your pros. 498 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: I remember when Adam did it, I remember when Neve 499 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: did it. Like I didn't even like I didn't, but 500 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: I just like you were you. You were always kind 501 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: of the talk of the town. 502 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: What okay, I want to do like a little rapid 503 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: fire because I feel like I feel like I just 504 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: want to like get these out of here. 505 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 2: You cannot use me. 506 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would be any of these answers, 507 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: but because I'm sitting right here, you cannot use me 508 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: because I will either get bruly offended or my ego 509 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: will get boosted, and I don't want either. 510 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: Sons Jojo. 511 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, But just like rapid Fire, your stars that you've 512 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: been partnered with, who was the most fun to rehearse with? 513 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: Not necessarily the best, but the most fun, Like you 514 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: just knew you're gonna have a good time. 515 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: Adam Adam Rippon. We just connected so quickly and easily, 516 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: and when I tell you that, we laughed from beginning 517 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: to the end of the rehearsal. If anybody knows him 518 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 2: or follows him, he is probably one of the funniest 519 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: people I've ever met. But he was just so down 520 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: to earth. I had no ego, wanted just to be 521 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: there and have a good time, and we just vibed. 522 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: I love it. 523 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: Who was your your underdog story? Who were you like, 524 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: Oh God, oh God, go But then you're like, you 525 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: got there. 526 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: Oh. I don't know if we ever got there, but 527 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: we did make it to the semifinals. No, he's one 528 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: of my favorite people, Joe Mobley, and I also had 529 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: such a great time rehearsing with him. He was so bad, 530 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: so bad at dancing, and he knows that, he knows that, 531 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: but he never give up. Yeah, first of all, and 532 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 2: night one forgot all of his routine. No premiere night 533 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 2: forgot all of the routine. I think we got threes 534 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: or four no, which I'd never seen on my time 535 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 2: in Dancing with the Stars. And then no joke, we 536 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: made it to the semifinals, and it was because he 537 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: was so likable. No ego, would just take it and 538 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: he would try his bed and that's all you can 539 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 2: that's all you can ask for, and was so kind 540 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: and sweet to me. We actually have the same birthday. 541 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: Shout out, Joe Mathley, I love you so much. But yeah, 542 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: so I that was like kind of my underdog story. 543 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: But also I guess I could kind of putne even there. 544 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say he was an underdog because I think 545 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: that he he did have a little bit of dance experience, 546 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: but I don't think anyone was expecting him to go far, 547 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: and I don't think anyone was expecting us to create 548 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: what we did and we ended up getting second. 549 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: So did incredible you have a sermed at residence yet 550 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: that second place spot get. 551 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: Me out of there on the left side as well 552 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: on the stairs and that next season if. 553 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: You are, if you are that pit real quick semale 554 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: fun So oh. 555 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: Okay, okay? 556 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: Who who was your Like you knew you could just 557 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: make a bomb dance with like either they can stand 558 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: there and like chuck you and throw you and catch you. 559 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the stuff you just did a 560 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: Tyson what? I was like, No, that was fun because. 561 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: I haven't had somebody that I could be like, can 562 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: you just chuck me above your head? And he was 563 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: like sure, what do you mean the eighteen year old female? 564 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 2: Wasn't that you were down to attempt? Whether it happened 565 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: or not, was now I could now I could now 566 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: it would be sick. So Tyson Beckford was fun because 567 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: I really felt like I could be He was a 568 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: jungle gym. I was just like, can you let me 569 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: move over end? And he was like yeah, I was 570 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: like can you hold me upside down? 571 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 572 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: He was. He was so sweet and fun about it, 573 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: But obviously I would say you like that was the 574 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: first time where I I always came prepared. But if 575 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: I didn't come prepared with choreography, I knew that we 576 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: could fumble around and make something worse. I don't think 577 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 2: you came prepared when we did feedback. No, that was 578 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: definitely in the room. No, it was just a lift. 579 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: It was because again I didn't know what we could 580 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: do and salsa, and I knew that we needed to 581 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: throw something crazy, so we attempted some headstack. You did 582 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: you did wrap feedback. 583 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: Because I remember you prepped feedback with Ezra and yeah, 584 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: so Jenna, Jenna came into one of our rehearsals and 585 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: and we did we did this actually is gonna lead 586 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: me pretty pretty solidly into my memories Unlocked game. But 587 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: she came into our rehearsals and she was like, let's 588 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: get the mad out. And anytime the mad out it 589 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: was like, oh dear gosh, here we go, thinking we're gonna. 590 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: Do some left drive. She's like, can you do a headstand? Yeah, okay, 591 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: preps this. I'm an artist. Artists should make mistakes. This 592 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: was a big mistake on my head. This is a 593 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: very big mistake. 594 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: The concept was there because kids now in the convention, Well, 595 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: do do these really cool headstand tricks where they headstand spin, 596 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: split straddle flip like they do these, But me and 597 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: Jenna we like it. 598 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: Just it wasn't about to happen. We're gonna have to 599 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: share this video so everyone can just witness absolutely. 600 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: Jenna was like, all right, we're gonna go headstand, straddle 601 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: through laid back. I was like, Okay, we look absolutely 602 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: so stupid. 603 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: We look like we're mini's like trying to do We 604 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: look like in. 605 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: The back of the convention around like that's what we 606 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: looked like so bad? 607 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: Well, here was the thing. I was like, we hadn't 608 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: really done the lifts yet. Yeah, and I knew that 609 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: we needed to like have really shut out or whatever. 610 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, well if we can't lift 611 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: each other, like we can probably do headstans together. Bad idea. 612 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: It didn't happen, and you did lift me that routine 613 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: that week. I lifted upside down, cross side down, you knowdle, 614 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: We did the opening lift. Yes, there was a lot 615 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: that week. 616 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're gonna get into the lists because 617 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: I have a lot of lift memories, a lot of 618 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: lift thoughts. 619 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: We got a lot more to talk about. I feel 620 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: like we're gonna have to do part two to this. 621 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: Uh so I'm gonna I'm gonna pause this round of 622 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: the podcast here and uh you and I are gonna 623 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: start chatting some more. But everybody listening, you're gonna have 624 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: to go check out Part two to hear the rest. 625 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, everybody. Be sure to 626 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram and TikTok at Jojosa Now Podcast. 627 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: Be sure to write us a review, and maybe if 628 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: you're feeling to leave us five stars, I'll see you 629 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 1: next week