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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Gentleman. They're Jack

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Speaker 1: and Kyler, and we are on a mission to find

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Speaker 1: the greatest game of all time. Today's episode, we are

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Speaker 1: covering Hell in a Cell from the twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: Cody Rhodes versus Seth Rawlins WWE match with legendary WWE

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Speaker 1: champion die Hard Chicago Bears fan and the man who's

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Speaker 1: married to Becky Lynch Seth freaking Rawlins, And we're talking

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Speaker 1: what it's like to wrestle a guy with a torn peg.

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Speaker 2: The first time he falls down in the match, I

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Speaker 2: believe is like he does like a He has this

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Speaker 2: move called a Cody cutter where he jets off the

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Speaker 2: second row. That's the first thing, first time he fell

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Speaker 2: down in the in the match, and I remember after

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Speaker 2: him saying like it was the worst pain he'd ever felt.

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Speaker 2: And then they adrenaline, you know, got him through the

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Speaker 2: rest of it. But that first one he said was

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Speaker 2: the awful, like awful, awful.

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Speaker 1: The best wrestling prop of all time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a free for al. You have

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Speaker 2: an idea of what you're gonna do, what weapons you're

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Speaker 2: looking for. You know what I'm saying, and some of

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Speaker 2: it's you know, a lot of it's just wrestling. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's tables under the ring, there's a stick under the ring.

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Speaker 2: There's a toolbox if you need it, there's you know,

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Speaker 2: the stairs are out there. Obviously, the cage is a

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Speaker 2: weapon in this to be used.

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Speaker 1: He is Mount rushmore of heels.

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Speaker 2: We think about him mostly as a babyface, but honestly,

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Speaker 2: I think his heel stuff had the most impact on

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Speaker 2: business long term, probably hul Koga.

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Speaker 1: And we talk about NFL food in this week's Chill Zone,

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Speaker 1: presented by COR's Light. You gotta stick around to the

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Speaker 1: very end. Let's go Games and Names, a production of

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio June bid, twenty twenty two, All State Arena, Rosemont, Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Two men, one cage, and plenty of bad blood.

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Speaker 1: Time to end this bitter feud once in for all.

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Speaker 1: This This is the torn Pack match. Welcome to Games

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Speaker 1: with Names. Today we are looking at twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: Hell in a Cell Rhodes versus Rawlins with Seth freaking

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Speaker 1: Rawlins Seth in one sentence, Oh gosh, why did you

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Speaker 1: pick this match a one sentence?

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Speaker 2: I think there are so many stories that come from

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Speaker 2: this one match.

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Speaker 1: Is this the greatest match of all time? No sounds

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Speaker 1: the greatest match of all time? Not at all.

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Speaker 2: What is the greatest match of all time? While wrestling

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Speaker 2: is art, so it's very subjective. So everybody's got a

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Speaker 2: different favorite match of all time, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, I think I have Gosh, do

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Speaker 2: I have favorite matches of all time? Oh? Man? You

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Speaker 2: know the ones that stick with you were interesting because

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Speaker 2: they're not the greatest wrestling matches of all time. You know,

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Speaker 2: people talk about Macho Man Randy Savage got him on

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Speaker 2: the shirt here against Riddy Steamboat WrestleMania three as one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest matches of all time. You know, Sean

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Speaker 2: Michael's Undertaker from WrestleMania maybe one of the greatest matches

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Speaker 2: of all time. You know, this match was very highly rated,

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Speaker 2: But as I watch it back, I'm not like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is the greatest hell in the cell match of

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Speaker 2: all time. So tough to say. I love the like

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Speaker 2: a you know, when I was a kid, all Ultimate

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Speaker 2: Warrior Haul Cogan WrestleMania six in Toronto had a huge

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Speaker 2: impact on me. Brett Hart, Shawn Michaels, WrestleMania twelve main

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Speaker 2: event Iron Man Match had a huge impact on me.

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Speaker 2: But then like randomly, you know, Samoa jo versus Kenza

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Speaker 2: as well. So it sort of just depends that it's hard.

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Speaker 2: That's the beautiful thing about out you know, our sports

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Speaker 2: and our art form is that it impacts people in

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Speaker 2: different ways across generations, and so there's no one perfect

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Speaker 2: piece of art. It's just you get to pick, you

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Speaker 2: get whatever whatever makes you feel a certain thing. I

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Speaker 1: That was amazing. I think that could be the best

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Speaker 1: answer we ever had for that fucking we ask every.

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Speaker 3: Someone wants answer that question with football? What's the greatest

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Speaker 3: game of all time? Football?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes simple as the.

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Speaker 1: Fact that a man, man, Well, we appreciate you coming here

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Speaker 1: to the Nutthouse. How are things going today?

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Speaker 2: What do you uh?

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Speaker 1: We're over here getting the rotator? Yeah, you know, I Australia.

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Speaker 2: Cody Roads again for the first time since this match,

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Speaker 2: as a matter of fact. So I did what we

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Speaker 2: I was like, can I do it? Should we go

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Speaker 2: so I kind of kept it real like tucked real tight,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I don't know that I did any

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Speaker 1: Were you getting flashbacks like the rolls to turn from

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Speaker 2: Eight bubbs? Like yo?

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Speaker 1: Arms hanging on by a thread here? Like what do

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Speaker 2: Well? I landed and I immediately felt it. Go. I

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, how bad? I'm not sure and you

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I can't throw even

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Speaker 1: It hurt when you probably weren't doing anything, and then

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Speaker 1: you would like get muscles, steam up some power and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's it. Yeah, everything it would, it would,

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Speaker 2: it was it was a fucking warrior. It's just you

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Speaker 2: know what, is it stupidity or is it courageousness? I

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Speaker 2: a perfect both where I think that's what I think.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what a professional is. Hey, you have a

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Speaker 2: job at hand, you signed up for it. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: And that's what a professional is. That's what you did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's my mindset is always to like finish.

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Speaker 2: Every time I've gotten an injury you know, you guys

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Speaker 2: All these people want to say it's just fake. Go go,

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Speaker 1: Put your head into a fucking a staircase of a

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Speaker 1: You got to go do it like the next night.

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Speaker 1: How do you recover? It's still real to me, damn it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a level of physicality to it,

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Speaker 2: no doubt about it. And obviously things happen that you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean I've been doing this for over twenty years now,

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Speaker 2: so it's you know, two thousand plus matches, like there's

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Speaker 2: no there's of course you're going to get ripped to shreds.

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Speaker 2: You know. I've had a few surgeries on my knees,

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Speaker 2: Plus the excitement, the stories, you know, the pomp and

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Speaker 2: art form. Man, I love it. How many surgeries have

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Speaker 2: you had, Let's see, I've had one, two on my knee,

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Speaker 2: big one on my knee ten years ago, I did

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Speaker 2: And then the shoulder, those are the big three. Got

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Speaker 2: broken my jaw, but I didn't need surgery on it.

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Speaker 2: I got next surgery to kind of alleviate some pressure

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Speaker 2: that was going on on a nerve that I had there.

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Speaker 2: So I think those are the big ones, the four

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Speaker 2: big ones right there, modern date glad me. Hopefully I'm done.

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Speaker 2: I want to be done, to make hope. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to. I don't want to do anymore. They're not

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Speaker 2: They're not fun, you know, no, not exciting, badge of honor.

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Speaker 2: But also let's just be done.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about it, Okay, let's talk about your

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Speaker 1: sports fandom. Chicago Bears fanatic.

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Speaker 2: Bears baby. Well, I'm from Iowa. Iowa has no professional

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Speaker 1: Really, that's kind of that's kind of normal. The Iowa

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Speaker 2: I mean, you get a lot of floaters, you know

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Speaker 1: This, he was part of the finding people of the NFL,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He'll Merton Hanks got you, got you, chick, I know,

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Speaker 2: fucking stacked, bro stacked. Dan Campbell again, got just got

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Speaker 1: Put in Hutch. They just signed my guy a big.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I am too, Bro. You I said it

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Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna be, but you know, you

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Speaker 1: That's that's a crazy that's a crazy move. Because Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold's looking great over in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: And and so that's the NFL. It's been funny, it's

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's been a great season.

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Speaker 2: There there, come on. It's fine. And now they look

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Speaker 2: like they're unbeatable. I mean they look that. Besides, I

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Speaker 2: mean the Colts are looking amazing, which is a great

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Speaker 2: story Patriots. Drake May May, Dude, that's exciting.

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Speaker 2: I mean it is a bear he could have been.

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Speaker 1: Between William J. Daniels, but they still need that. They

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Speaker 2: So you find it harder to reacclimate then into the offense.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, it's it's it's gonna be a fun

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Speaker 1: this the the pasteurization period of the NFL season.

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Speaker 2: Oh what's that? What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 1: We know, when you're milking a cow, all that fat

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Speaker 1: of it? I don't know what butter? So which ones

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Speaker 1: you're a fucking guy on that. Goddamn sure. So, like

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Speaker 2: I just did that. You came up with this whole

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Speaker 3: This will end up with you doing a fox like

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Speaker 2: I just see it. You're going to be under a

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Speaker 1: There he is, who's your rises to the top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a time, What a character, What a character.

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Speaker 1: I would say that I get in a wormhole at

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Speaker 2: Puts you in a great mood. You can't you can't

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Speaker 2: everybody can do macho man. You know, everybody can do

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Speaker 2: everybody tries to do a macho man. But you remember

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Speaker 2: you remember the promo, all of it. He's just he's

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Speaker 4: For if you were to ever, like look at our

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Speaker 1: We communicate in macho man clips pretty much. Now, what's

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Speaker 2: Man? What's it take to be a good heel? That's

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Speaker 2: primary mover. Right, that's still one of the main goals

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Speaker 2: like the babyface, Right, so you have to be able

429
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 2: to kind of like find the things that are really

430
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: gross or that really you know, they poke at people

431
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: or whatever it is, and not be afraid to go there.

432
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: I think a lot of times what our heels do nowadays.

433
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: Back in the day, the old guys didn't care. They

434
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 2: all knew they were rotten sobs. They didn't care. Nowadays,

435
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 2: I think everybody sees themselves in a way that they've

436
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 2: got no flaws or that they've got they don't want

437
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: to admit that they've got these types of tendencies inside

438
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,479
Speaker 2: of them. You know, they're, Oh, I'm not I'm not

439
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: that pery, I'm not a selfish person. I'm not I

440
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 2: don't want everything to be about me like I'm not.

441
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm not mean like that. I wouldn't do that, And

442
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 2: it's hard for them to then become that character when

443
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: it's time to when the red light's on, time to go.

444
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 2: I think it's just you have to take an honest

445
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 2: look at who you are, understand that we've all got

446
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: good and bad inside of us, and you have to

447
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: be unafraid to find those rotten parts of you and

448
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: figure out how to manifest them into a character live

449
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: on screen. You have to be willing to put yourself

450
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: out there. Now, I will say this, it's much easier

451
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. To be a bad guy than

452
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: it is to be a good guy. Because everybody wants

453
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 2: to hate everything. That's what they all want to do everything.

454
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 2: No one wants to get online and talk about how

455
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: much they love something because no one cares. They just

456
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: want to get online and bitch about anything, anything they

457
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: can find. They want to complain about anything. So it's

458
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: so easy to troll people, to mess with people. It's

459
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: so easy to just get people to hate you. It's like,

460
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 2: there's no wrong, you can do no wrong. You can

461
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 2: do no wrong. There's a bad guy. You can screw

462
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: up left and right. You can mess up your promos,

463
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: you can screw up in the ring, doesn't matter. They'll

464
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 2: boo you for it and then your gold. You know.

465
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 2: So I think I think it's just a different place.

466
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 2: The thing that's different, and I'll get into that, is

467
00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 2: that our audience nowadays is so intelligent that they know

468
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: you're playing a character. And if you do that too well,

469
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: then they start to like you, and so you stop

470
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: losing the ability to heal, to heal. That's interesting. You start,

471
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 2: you start there's so I mean.

472
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: Too much, well we we I mean heels have always

473
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: been cool, But there was a difference because we stop

474
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: trying to hide what we do because we let everybody

475
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: in on the secret.

476
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: You know. Now everybody's sort of just playing along with

477
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: the heel. There's not a lot of truth to it.

478
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: They know that, you know, like they're going to see me,

479
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: you know, or hear me or whatever on this podcast

480
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: and it's not this guy, right And I can't be

481
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 2: that guy on this podcast because that's not legitimate. So

482
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: the way that the culture is, the way the media is,

483
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: and the way that everybody understands what pro wrestling is

484
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: makes it more difficult to be a successful heel long term.

485
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: So I think you have to understand that. Like my

486
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: last babyface that I had kind of maybe two years ago,

487
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: it was like sort of right off of this. So

488
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm a monster heel. Here in twenty twenty two, we're

489
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: talking about this Hell in the Cell with Cody. By

490
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: the end of this year, I'm a massive babyface. So

491
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: this is in like July or something. I don't even

492
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: in June. It was in June. By the end of

493
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: this year, we're in Madison Square Garden. I'm doing a

494
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: stomp to Matt Riddle's head in Mason Square Garden on

495
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: steel Steps to people singing my song, and they had

496
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: no choice but to flip me into a babyface the

497
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: following year, and I ended up working with Logan Paul

498
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 2: at the following year's WrestleMania as a babyface. So within

499
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 2: a year's time, I go from being the most hated

500
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: guy in the world in this match to being one

501
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: of the most beloved people on our roster. And I

502
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: would say it is simply because I was doing my

503
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: job too well and the audience respected that, they appreciated it.

504
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: And now was that because the audience is so dialed

505
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: into the craft, the whole picture of wrestling.

506
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: I think so oops that they appreciate you, like being

507
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: so good at your crap that they just like you.

508
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: Even Yeah, I mean, I couldn't do it. I couldn't

509
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: be mean enough at that point, Like nothing I would do.

510
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: Like I said, I stomped the guy's head into steel Steps,

511
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: who was a fairly beloved character, and it didn't matter.

512
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: Like I could Roman Reigns, who was very over the time,

513
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: I control him and laugh in his face and people

514
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: thought it was hilarious. I could. I went from being

515
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 2: ridiculed for the silly outfits that I was wearing to

516
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: it becoming like, Oh, what's Seth gonna wear this week?

517
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: You know? So I was doing all the things, the

518
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: same things that I had done to get Boot out

519
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: of every building, and now it had just turned the

520
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: other direction, and they were like, this is great. And

521
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 2: I do think it just has to do with the

522
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: audience understanding what it is and appreciating the effort that

523
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: I was putting into the character, into being a bad guy.

524
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: You can never go to heal, though, can you. I mean,

525
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 2: there are some lines you might not want to cross,

526
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: but I mean, I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty open as

527
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: far as that is concerned, you know what I mean.

528
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: There's some things you don't want to say that I

529
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: find that will turn the audience off. So you can't

530
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: go to here. You you can, yeah, yeah you can.

531
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: And and I think because our company is a publicly

532
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: traded company, now you know you have shareholders, you have

533
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: advertisers for TV, we had to ask yeah, so that

534
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: so there are a lot of things that you can

535
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: say that you know, if it affects the bottom line,

536
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 2: then I've gone too far.

537
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: As logan Paul's as a wrestler. As a wrestler, he's great. Yeah,

538
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: he's pre athletic.

539
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: He's extremely athletic. I mean he's a young cat, he's

540
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: extremely athletic. One of the things that he excels in.

541
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: And I don't want to, you know, say too many

542
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: nice things about the guys, but one of the things

543
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 2: that he's great at is he knows he doesn't know

544
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: anything coachable exactly coachable. He knows he doesn't know.

545
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: He respects craft that of you guys.

546
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: Once he got in and he realized what it is

547
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: we do, he was like, oh, dude, this is awesome.

548
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: I'm in love with this. This is so much fun.

549
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: And like I remember working with him or like early

550
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: on seeing him work and talk to him, and he

551
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 2: like he was blown away by the level of intricacy,

552
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: like the thoughts and the planning and the processing that

553
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: goes on behind the scenes. Like he didn't I don't

554
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: think he fully understood what kind of scope there. I

555
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: mean I think he just thought, oh, that's a bunch

556
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: of guys would just show up and they're underwear and

557
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: oil up and go out there and do this fake

558
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: fighting thing. He didn't understand like the amount of brain

559
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: power that it took to be good at this job. Yeah,

560
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: and so when.

561
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: He really he's got a lot of brain power. So

562
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: you like, yeah, you think about like this guy is

563
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: like a master marketer. Yes, like he's literally grown up

564
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: in this shit. Yeah, and he you know what I mean.

565
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: So and in a world full of people that want

566
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 2: to be Logan Paul's now, I mean everybody you can

567
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: ask kids these days, what do they want to be

568
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: an influencer? Everyone insane? It's nuts. Right to be successful

569
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: in that field is very, very difficult when everybody's trying

570
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: to do the same things. So, yeah, he's got a

571
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: lot of brain backer. But that was the thing. He's

572
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: very coachable. He knew what he didn't do, and he

573
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: trusted the people me and whoever else he was working

574
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: with that had the experience to tell him what to do.

575
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: And then he's a quick learner because he didn't have

576
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: he had no notions about himself. He's like, I can

577
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: they tell me what to do? I'm smart enough that

578
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: I can soak this up like a sponge and just

579
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: get better and better. And you've seen that in his

580
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 2: career For a guy that's had less than twenty matches,

581
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: I think he's extremely He's gotten very good, very fast.

582
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: It almost doesn't have any bad habits to pull from.

583
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to, like, you know, unteach him things. Yeah,

584
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: he doesn't have anything that needs to unlearned. Some coaches,

585
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: you know, when you draft a guy or young football players,

586
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: you know, they sometimes they're coached habits that don't fit

587
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: into your system, you know. So it's it's it's a

588
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: big it's a big thing to try to coach that

589
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: into a guy that's not coachable. Yeah, you know, and

590
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: when you have a coachable guy that doesn't have that much,

591
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: it's almost like starting from zero, so you get to

592
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: get you get to maneuver how he goes from there. Yeah. Yeah,

593
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: it's basically how it is. He's like a blue chip prospect.

594
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: You'd you know, number one draft pick right out and

595
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: you'd be like, oh, this is a guy. But he

596
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: was so coachable and he wasn't stuck in his habits,

597
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: and he wasn't like, no, this works for me, so

598
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: let's just do that. You know. He was very much like,

599
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: here's the things I can do. Please help me make

600
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: sense of it. Please please help me take my athleticism

601
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 2: and put it in the right spot.

602
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: That's cool to hear. That's cool to hear. Now, before

603
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: we move on, you were a healing this, so we

604
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: got to talk.

605
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: More heel bad stuff. Yeah, bad guy.

606
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: Who's the Mount Rushmore of heels? Oh wow, that's a

607
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: great question.

608
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I've answered the Mount Rushmore question

609
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: quite often in my life in general, but not the

610
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: heel Mount Rushmore. I think you probably start with Rick Flair.

611
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: Rick Flair, this was on the show. He was just here.

612
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: Rick was on, He was just on. He was wild man.

613
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: He is my guy. He's he's ready to rock and roll,

614
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: just flying. He's a nut job, he's just stealing.

615
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: Job, having a hard time. He's one of the best

616
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: heels of all time. Gosh, man, how much? How far

617
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: on the way back machine?

618
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: I used to hate the rock when he was kind

619
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: of a heel to rock.

620
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he.

621
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: Was then he got too popular.

622
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: See he did his job too well.

623
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: Because I was a stone cold kid me too, still am.

624
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh gosh, you know, there's an argument to be

625
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: made at Triple H was really good for a while,

626
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: extremely hated for a variety of reasons during run strong

627
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: heel These are two great heels. Gosh, who else is

628
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: in there? That's just really the worst, you know what.

629
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: I'll say this, We think about him mostly as a babyface,

630
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: but honestly, I think his heel stuff had the most

631
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: impact on business long term. Probably Hulk Hogan, Yes, Hollywood Hogan.

632
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he because Hollywood. The Hollywood Turn was one

633
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: of them. I was so fucking sad, dude.

634
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: One of the biggest, you know, one of the biggest moments,

635
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: watershed moments in our industry when you took the biggest

636
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: hero in the business. And yeah, he had the black

637
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: beard and everything, and he.

638
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: Was a very detestable character at that time, but it

639
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: was almost kind of like rad or cool again. I know,

640
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: I hate him At first, though.

641
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I mean he broke he broke hearts,

642
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, He broke cards, He crushed

643
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: all those kids who were halcomniacs growing up, you know, praying, praying, training, prayers, training, vitamins,

644
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: all that red and yellow white. Yeah, so that's one

645
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: of them. And then gosh, I think maybe if I

646
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: had to go, I think I have to go further back.

647
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: Maybe King Harley Race Harley was nasty. What years was

648
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: he dude, what Harley was like?

649
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 1: Who?

650
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: I think Rick told the story about him pulling a

651
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: gun out Hulk Cogan on our episode.

652
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: That seems right. Yeah, yeah, Harley was like the seventies, sixties, seventies,

653
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: those were his probably his big decades. I would say, oh, man,

654
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: but he was just he was rotten. There was nothing

655
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: about him likable, you know what I mean. But he

656
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: was also like there he is, I mean, look at that,

657
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: Look at that scumbag. The sweetest man you'll ever meet too.

658
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: Like he I mean, he's passed away now, but when

659
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: he would come around, we would be into the Saint

660
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: Louis area or Kansas City area. He lived in Missouri,

661
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: ran in wrestling school I think till his till his passing.

662
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: But he uh, he was the nicest guy I ever,

663
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: one of the nicest guys back as you ever met,

664
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: and not one of those old timing guys. It was like, oh,

665
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: today's kids don't know nothing like he was not like that.

666
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: He was very cool, very easy to talk to. But

667
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: man as a as a performer, just mean. He was mean.

668
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: He was like the embodiment of a bully and he

669
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: was mean. But he would when the time was right.

670
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: The same with Rick. He would always give it back

671
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: to his babyface. So he would always allow his babyface.

672
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: I mean he was great at bumping around like a

673
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: maniac and selling for his babyface and stuff like that

674
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: when the time was right. So I mean those are

675
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: those are four of them. I mean you could there's

676
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: probably some more in there. But Beggy Lynch beg He's great.

677
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: She's an incredible heel. I think people again think of

678
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: her as oh the man, big babyface run twenty nineteen

679
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: WrestleMania main event and all that. She's an incredible heel. Yeah,

680
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: she is awesome. She was awesome in her first kind

681
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: of like he'll run his big time becks where you know,

682
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: the main purpose of her being a heel was to

683
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: help Bianca bell Air reach know superstardom at WrestleMania, which

684
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: she did. And now what she's doing with the Women's

685
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: Intercinal Championship, I mean, her heel work is off the charts.

686
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 2: And I told her a million times, I'm like, you're

687
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: gonna be a babyface out of this because you're too

688
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: good at it and no one else is doing what

689
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: you're doing.

690
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: So you guys have those talks at home, oh all

691
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: the time. Of course, that's awesome.

692
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: That's one of the things that you know makes it

693
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: easy is that we're both in the same profession, so

694
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: we understand each other and we can bounce off each other,

695
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: and she can tell me when you know something I'm

696
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: doing is working or vice versa. So yeah, I mean,

697
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: she's she's one of the best. She's the best, in

698
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: my opinion, female to ever lace them up. Yeah, not

699
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: just me saying, other people are saying it. Sports Illustrated

700
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: says it. That's that's her bit right now. Case she

701
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: didn't know, so yeah, but she's I mean she is.

702
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: She's just one of the best to ever do it,

703
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: regardless of gender, and she's a pioneer for the sport

704
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: for women for sure. But she's also not afraid to

705
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: take risks and she's not afraid to help get other

706
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: people over. I mean, I can't say enough about her.

707
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: She's one of the best promos in the business again,

708
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: gender aside, and one of the only in my opinion,

709
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: women that you can put a microphone in their hand,

710
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: send them out to the ring and just let them

711
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 2: go for ten to fifteen minutes, like you you can't

712
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 2: do that with a lot of other women in our industry,

713
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: and she's she's a special She's definitely a unicorn in

714
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: that regard.

715
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: Now, when you guys are parenting the kids, are we

716
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: parenting them as heels or a little bit?

717
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: No, we're big baby faces where we're too too much.

718
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 2: We need to be more. We need to be more

719
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 2: heelish to the to the kid man, she spoiled the rotten.

720
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: That's hard.

721
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: You know that this is our first husband and wife

722
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: on the show.

723
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: That's right.

724
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: We're making history today.

725
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: We're making it. Really. Yeah, that's true.

726
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: Hell no, no, Genie Bush.

727
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: And friends of ours, friends of ours, they're great, They're great.

728
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: I'm actually Jay's got a podcast.

729
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: I just did it.

730
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: Oh you did it nice, careful.

731
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna ask all the hard hitting questions in

732
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: the first two seconds.

733
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: Jesus Hernanda, is this that? I'm like? Oh god, he

734
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: went straight forward?

735
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: Jam man up first, bro, jeez, Louise, Jay Mormer like,

736
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: tell you enough, good Jesus sorry, maybe jay Less?

737
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: How about that got him? Got him? Look at us.

738
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: We're really We'll be right back after this quick break,

739
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: Let's go back into time where the match took place.

740
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: And talk about some of the pop pop culture going around.

741
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: Wow this play. This took place on June fifth, twenty

742
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: twenty two. Hop movie Hop, gun, mavere.

743
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: What a movie? What's a what a movie?

744
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: It literally my my dad was just here for eight days.

745
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: I think he watched it four more times.

746
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: Oh Dad, I mean I get got me to give

747
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: me the goose pimples, got me the tears in the

748
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: opening credits. You know what I mean when you just

749
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 2: hear the song, Oh.

750
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: Did it save the movie industry?

751
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 2: I don't know. A movie street still not doing hot.

752
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: God blessed a.

753
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: Couple more of those top guns. Yeah yeah, yeah, w

754
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: w taking the viewers dog. You know, it's it's pretty

755
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: crazy that that's exactly, isn't that what we just it

756
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: just happened, the strikes in the run. It was the

757
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: literal same plot thing.

758
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: But that wasn't iron It wasn't that. It was like China.

759
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 3: I don't know, look it up all right, number one

760
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: song as it was by Harry Styles.

761
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 2: I don't know that song.

762
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: You know, it's not the same as it was. I

763
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: don't know that the Johnny depth Amber Herd case was

764
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: going that swept the names that that was.

765
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: What it was, the resolution that they were both just jerks.

766
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: I think they're both.

767
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: I think he won, he did, which is slightly worse

768
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: thin slightly.

769
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. Yeah, they were both. They were

770
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: both awful, terrible, toxic relationship. She was slightly worse. That's right.

771
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: That that sucks, man. That is let's that's crazy. Super

772
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: Bowl Champions with l A.

773
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: Rams. Aaron Rodgers was the m v P. You know,

774
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers fan, the Bears guy bro. He owned them,

775
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: he owns them. I know we have Pittsburgh on the

776
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: schedule later this season. I am terrified of that game

777
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: because our secondary is absolutely trash right now.

778
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: Trash. I mean, they don't have a ton of people

779
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: to throw to. I don't know what. Was there a

780
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: news on the firemth injury.

781
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: He looked like his pretty banged up. The DK trade

782
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: deadline is Tuesday, Tuesday. I bet you there's gonna be

783
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: some fireworks. I think so too, fireworks.

784
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: I think so.

785
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: There's never fireworks in the NFL. Always wants the NFL

786
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: to be like the NBA and the NHL.

787
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: It just never is.

788
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see.

789
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: We'll see. I feel I feel like there's gonna be

790
00:38:59,440 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: some moves too.

791
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be Tom Brady unretired after just

792
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: forty days of retirement. I mean, he he played till

793
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: forty five, was savage. That's crazy, that that's unprecedented to

794
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: be that good until forty five. He literally he took

795
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: care of his body. That's all he cared about.

796
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I mean, do you think it was do

797
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: you think it was him taking care of his body

798
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: as much as it was also the NFL starting to

799
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 2: take care of quarterbacks more both.

800
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: Okay, the first eight years, first ten years of his career,

801
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: he was getting I mean, it wasn't the seventies where

802
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: they were eye gouging and shit, but yeah, yeah, you

803
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: know he was getting hit. Yeah, but I think the

804
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: rule changes did help him, and he used to he

805
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: would acknowledge that, Okay, yeah, I mean he'd be like,

806
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: this game is easier now. My receivers can't get killed

807
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: over the middle. You know I don't. I can't get hit.

808
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: I love how I love his his like talk about

809
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: that and how it makes people makes him lazy, right,

810
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: it makes it because you're you don't have to account

811
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: for those things anymore. You essentially, like when a guy

812
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: got knocked out, that that was the offense making a

813
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: mistake and the defense winning the coverage battle.

814
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

815
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: You know, if a guy's running through his zone, the

816
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: guy shouldn't be running through his zone. There's a guy

817
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: sitting there, you know what I mean. Like those kind

818
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: of things were all no nose on the offense. Yeah, yeah,

819
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: that the offense lost that play and you had to

820
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: be better. You had to take those into account. You

821
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: had to take those into account. Now, you know, it's

822
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: it's a fly zone across that middle.

823
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: It used to be.

824
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: Like Tom said, I remember going across getting hit by

825
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis knocked out for two weeks, you know what

826
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean. It's just that's how it was. Yeah, gosh,

827
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm a fan of the players not

828
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: getting killed too. It's a double edged sword. Like you said,

829
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: you didn't want to You don't want to be an

830
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: old timer sitting there looking back on the game like

831
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: the old.

832
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 2: Timers in the past. I mean, the game's still blast.

833
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: It's still a blast, still the best sport to watch

834
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: by by far in my opinion. It's it's a fun sport.

835
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's everyone. The parody is so

836
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: so good. In reality, only like six teams can really

837
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: win it. But any given Sunday, everyone still can mustard

838
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: up a performance because everyone's good. Yeah, and all coaches,

839
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: even if they're not the greatest coaches, these guys are

840
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: putting hours into this.

841
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

842
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: So like any given Sunday, that's real. Yeah, that's legit,

843
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: that's real. Now, uh, don't cold, don't cold.

844
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 4: He came back, he crashed and he crashed the ATV

845
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: coming in or something.

846
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: Not that year. That was a different No, this was

847
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 2: that was last year. That was last year.

848
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, you can get my stone cold comebacks.

849
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was last year.

850
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: Just made the appearance and ran ATV into somebody in

851
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. So you're third, you're thirty eight, you're were

852
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: you a stone cold guy?

853
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: Course? Yeah? Stone call was awesome.

854
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: He was who was your who was your wrestlers because

855
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: that was probably when you were like ten eleven.

856
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was born eighty six, So Austin got real hot.

857
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: Started in ninety seven and then like blew up ninety eight,

858
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: ninety nine, two thousand, two thousand and one, I'd say,

859
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: and then and then he got hurt and then he was,

860
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 2: you know, off and on after that, but became the Rock. Yeah,

861
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 2: Rock had a small run, but Rock was also gone.

862
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: Rocks like main roster run was only six years he

863
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: debuts or maybe yeah, six years, seven, five years, something

864
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: like that. He debuts like ninety six, ninety seven, and

865
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: he's gone in twenty two, done, like in and out.

866
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: He was off the Hollywood by that point he was.

867
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was an Austin guy. I was Sean

868
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: Michaels was my Michaels. So I loved the first iteration

869
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: of DX with Sean Hunter in China, like they I

870
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: loved him. So he was like when Austin was kind

871
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: of coronated WrestleMania at fourteen, he beat Sean, who was

872
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: real banged up at the time. But like I was like, ah,

873
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of was reluctant to get on

874
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: board the Austin wagon because I love Sean so much. Yeah,

875
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: but then Sean was gone for four years. He got

876
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 2: surgery on his back and got himself right, and uh

877
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: yeah Austin, I was all on board. He's great.

878
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Let's do a little word association. I'll throw a name.

879
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: What's the first thing that comes to your mind. Great

880
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: rock listener, asshole John Cena, goat macho man. Yeah, Becky Lynch,

881
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm a lucky many see him punk.

882
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 2: The worst, Rick Flair, Woo the rock. Ah, what a guy.

883
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm friends with DJ now so he's he sent me

884
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: when I got hurt after WrestleMania forty, he sent me

885
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 2: like a giant. I mean it was so much ice

886
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: cream and chocolate. You it's still we still have cheat Day.

887
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: We still have pints. We still have pints in the

888
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: backfridge because there's too much ice cream to go through.

889
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: He's a big cheat day guy.

890
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen it on Instagram or well one

891
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: of the ones.

892
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: He was that cheat did. What a guy.

893
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: We gotta get this man an Oscar. He was awesome

894
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: in Smashing Machine.

895
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: He was very good. Smashing Machine was very good. Love

896
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: Smashing Machine. And but yeah, he's he's what a guy.

897
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: Last one Cody Rhodes, son of a son of a plumber.

898
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: There is a son of a plumber there is Should

899
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: we get into Cody real quick?

900
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: Let's get into it all right. We got Cody Rose

901
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: build out of Georgia from Atlanta. There as we said,

902
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: there Dusty Rhodes is his pops. Gold Dust is his brother.

903
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: For all you wrestling lineage heads out there, uh, you know, for.

904
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: The cross Road both this past, no no, who Remember

905
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: he did a hanging thing and there was like a

906
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: rumor when we were young. Remember he did the he

907
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: was hanging? Was he hanging on something? In a crazy man?

908
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: Something sounds familiar.

909
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: I used to.

910
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: I used to kind of funk with gold Dust, Steel

911
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: weird and did all this weird ship a unique courage?

912
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, it was good.

913
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: Vibes made his main roster debut in O seven, two

914
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: time WTY Champ, one time Universal champe twenty four Royal

915
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: Rumble winner, Great Tag Team Guy, seven time champ there.

916
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

917
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: He was also in the ae W for a bit,

918
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: had a lot of success over there.

919
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 4: Was really the face of that brand, most notably in

920
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 4: that run. Had a beef with Shaq. Did T and

921
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 4: T baby?

922
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: We know drama?

923
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: What's up with chef?

924
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: Did Shack jump in that ring? I know I've seen

925
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: Shack in there. Might have done something in the ring.

926
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: Did he do something? Yeah, they had like a they

927
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: had him do something.

928
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a.

929
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Little He was the show crossover kind of vibe.

930
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if that he wrestled the

931
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: match or anything, like he gave like a I think

932
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: he gave like a leg the seven foot Legs song.

933
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: I don't remember what he did. He was around Superman.

934
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: So what was Cody Rhoades like in this era, during

935
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: this period?

936
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, during this period of time, well, at this point,

937
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 2: Cody had only been back for a few months. He

938
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: comes back to WWE after a long hiatus, started a

939
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: rival company, AW and had been making some headway over there,

940
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: and then he comes back to WWE at WrestleMania this

941
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: year as my mystery opponent, which legitimately was about his

942
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: last minute as you can get for a WrestleMania match.

943
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: And that was a big deal for our industry to

944
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: have someone who had He was like the first guy

945
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: who had left, gone to AW and then had come back.

946
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: And I was tashed with you know, working with him

947
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: right out of the gate, and you know, we were

948
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 2: looking to make him a big star. He had done

949
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: his due diligence while he was gone to get himself

950
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: to a position where when we brought him back, he

951
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: was ready to be kind of one of the top

952
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: acts in the company, which when he left, I don't

953
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: remember what year he left, but when he did leave,

954
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: he was not that guy, and todp Bras didn't see

955
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: him as that guy. So he was coming back in

956
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: a position where hopefully they were hoping that they could

957
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: groom him to be in the John Cena position, and

958
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: so he was more than excited to get back in

959
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: the ring with me. He's someone who I've had a

960
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: lot of history with his father who helped kind of

961
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: He didn't train me, but he helped hone me and

962
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: and build me. When I was in developmental, I worked

963
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: with him and his brother a lot. When we meet

964
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: in my group. The Shield first came in WWE back

965
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, and so there was a lot of

966
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: history there and he was more than happy to step

967
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 2: into the ring with me. I'd been, you know, churning

968
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: my wheels in WWE ever since, and we were really

969
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: starting to feel the wind come underneath our wings. We'd

970
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: gone through a rough patch COVID and all that, and

971
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: then we were coming out of that and things were

972
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 2: going really well. So this was what twenty two you said, Yeah, yeah,

973
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: we were just about to hit the hit the rockets.

974
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: Now went over to go in to out space. So

975
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: he'd been gone for six years and talking with this.

976
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: When did I find out about this? I do roar

977
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: a rumble, I wrestle Roman reigns and roar a rumble.

978
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 2: After that, there was some conversations about matches. I would

979
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: say I didn't know about Cody for sure until the

980
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 2: middle of March. I want to say, geez, yeah for sure, yeah,

981
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: for sure. I would say WrestleMania is in April, and

982
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: so we had like maybe a month of lead time

983
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: knowing Cody was for sure coming, and even til like

984
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: the like the two weeks before, I remember being like,

985
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: do we have his signature on a piece of papers?

986
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: We know?

987
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: We know this is this is what we're gonna do.

988
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

989
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: And it was very top secret. There were very few

990
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: people that knew about what was going on. So what

991
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: about is torn peck? Well, the peck was later. These

992
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: are different matches, different matches, So this is WrestleMania. We

993
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: do WrestleMania a month later, we have a show called Backlash.

994
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: We do a rematch at Backlash. Here we go, he

995
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: beats me again. Then we're gonna finish this story in

996
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 2: Helena cell once and for all, gonna get it done.

997
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: So we booked this hell in a Cell match the

998
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 2: pay per views called Helen a Cell. You know, I'm

999
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: gonna get my big win finally because he's beating me

1000
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: two times in a row and I'm ready to go.

1001
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: The week before this, he's in the gym bench pressing

1002
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: pop Pop Gone. Gone. Immediately they've said the doctor, oh yeah,

1003
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: that peck is gone. He knew it right away, Like

1004
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: that peck is gone. They're like, well, do we get

1005
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: surgery right away? Can you still wrestle? Is what he

1006
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: wanted to know. Can I still wrestle? Like, I mean,

1007
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: the peck's gone, you're not going to do anything, Like

1008
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 2: you're not gonna hurt it any worse, but you can't

1009
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: do anything with it. So I suppose, And like I

1010
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 2: didn't see. This happened on like a Tuesday. We had

1011
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: non televised events, so live events like on Saturday, I

1012
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: think Friday and Saturday that week. I remember, and I

1013
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: remember he showed up to these non televised events. One

1014
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: of them, I think it was Saturday in Rockford, Illinois,

1015
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: and he was there. We were supposed to have a

1016
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: match on this this live event and obviously they didn't

1017
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: want it to take any chances, so he wasn't wrestling

1018
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 2: on that, but he showed up and he had you know,

1019
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: he showed me it and it looked like that right

1020
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: there you see in that picture. I was like, what

1021
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: the are you talking about? Dude? What are you talking about?

1022
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: You cannot wrestle like that. He's like, eh, I'm like what, Like,

1023
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: how are we supposed to have a match? You can't

1024
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: do anything, You're in a copious amounts of pain, Like

1025
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: what what? What? How are we We were supposed to

1026
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: do hell in a cell match, which is one of

1027
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: the most violent matches in our industry, and like, what

1028
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: how are we gonna have I'm like, oh, dude, this sucks.

1029
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: This sucks so bad. So that was kind of a

1030
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: lead up to it. And you know, we were in

1031
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: Chicago for this, this match, which is one of the

1032
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: greatest wrestling crowds on the planet, hometown, and they h

1033
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: it's I mean, it's my second seating. Yeah, it's my second.

1034
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: I did a lot of independent shows when I was there.

1035
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: Breaking in alse Arena is just one of our like

1036
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: flagship spots and it is always packed. This was no exception,

1037
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: and we go out there and we have to have

1038
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: this Helena Soe match to main event this show. We

1039
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: had to try to figure out how to do it

1040
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: and make it make it special. Like that's not like people.

1041
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, people don't realize, like when you blow

1042
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: a peck, like you can't do anything, couldn't do anything,

1043
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: there's nothing connected. So like I was watching this in paint, Yeah,

1044
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: and I think that's how the audience was watching. I

1045
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like cause he and he

1046
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: couldn't use it when you Yeah, and there's a couple

1047
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: of times where you pulled him up where you gave

1048
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: the arm back and the.

1049
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: Stretch, the stretch and you were about to dropping him.

1050
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 2: He was He's a trooper for going through that one.

1051
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: And I remember, did you feel bad at all him

1052
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 2: when you were having to beat his ass? Of course?

1053
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah. I mean I tried to be you know,

1054
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: as gentle with him as I could, but you know,

1055
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: he volunteered to take some things that we're probably you know,

1056
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: he knew we're gonna hurt him. I mean the first

1057
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 2: time he falls down in the match, I believe is

1058
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: like he does like a he has this move called

1059
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: the Cody Cutter where he just off the second row.

1060
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 2: That was the first thing, first time he fell down

1061
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: in the in the match, and I remember after him

1062
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: saying like it was the worst pain he'd ever felt.

1063
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 2: And then they adrenaline, you know, got him through the

1064
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: rest of it. But that first one he said was

1065
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 2: the awful, like awful, awful. And there's like some times

1066
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: where I have like a kendo stick and I'm like

1067
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 2: jamming it into the bruised part of it and like, yeah,

1068
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: I think I power bomb him through a table in

1069
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: this match, And when he took the jacket off, you

1070
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: could hear the crowd just all the wind because they

1071
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: don't know, they don't they they I don't think they

1072
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 2: fully under stood that it was a legitimate injury until

1073
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: they saw it. And there's probably some people in that

1074
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: audience that didn't know that he was hurt. You know,

1075
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 2: most of them saw it on the internet or had

1076
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: heard about it whatever, but they hadn't they didn't. They

1077
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: may not have known, and then they you see it

1078
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: and it's obviously brutal Jesus and uh and it honestly,

1079
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: when I watched it back, I watched it back recently,

1080
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: I was thinking to myself, like, dude, like the crowd

1081
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: took so long to get invested into what was happening

1082
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: because they were so legitimately concerned that they shouldn't be

1083
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: watching what they were watching, Like are we are we

1084
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 2: seeing like some masochism here? Like what are we seeing here?

1085
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: You know?

1086
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: It's like when you see something on Twitter that you're

1087
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: not supposed to watch. It was not you, you know,

1088
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: like you you go and you see those fight scenes

1089
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: that you're like, what the oh, I feel bad for

1090
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: this guy? What do we It's like that I had

1091
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: the feeling the whole time.

1092
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: It's like they put to back in the game Jesus,

1093
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

1094
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was so jarring in the visual like the

1095
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: is in the blue and the hues. Oh my god, Jackie,

1096
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: we didn't break down seth freaking there.

1097
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: I am really you mentioned that this was gonna this

1098
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: match was going to be one that you won, and

1099
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 3: then after like he got hurt.

1100
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: That was the game lead up, like for the people right.

1101
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: In my head, I you know, I was hoping to

1102
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: get it backstory wise, I don't know what the I

1103
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: don't know what the planned outcome of the match was

1104
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: before he hurt his Okay, I don't know if it was.

1105
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: You know, we hadn't gotten that far. Usually I just

1106
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: wait till the day of the understand what that's going

1107
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: to be, where we can pivot from there. But I

1108
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 2: think when he hurt his peck, I think it seemed,

1109
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: at least to me, it felt obvious. Yeah, I mean,

1110
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: that's that's the best story. And he was even though

1111
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: he was going to be gone for nine months. It

1112
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: was like, is it you know, what do we do here? Like?

1113
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: Do he do he? You know, give Seth the win

1114
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 2: because Cody's going to be gone, and that's oftentimes how

1115
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 2: it works, so someone's going to be gone with just

1116
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: give them a rub. But it just made sense from

1117
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 2: the story perspective. And I was a heel. It wasn't

1118
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: gonna hurt me.

1119
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: I need to lose at that point, So I got

1120
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: you in the hospital, purchase.

1121
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: Beat his ash and put him in the hospital. I

1122
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: mean I did beat the Jesus out of him the

1123
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: following night. Yeah, the following night, I I really put

1124
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 2: him out of action for good. That was when the

1125
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: sledgeon came back. I brought the sledge and I smashed

1126
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: him and the whole nine, you know.

1127
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 4: Hold on, Sorry, I ended up looking at this. I

1128
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 4: just pulled up that picture of stone Cold with the

1129
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 4: bed paint. Oh my god, this is killing me. My god,

1130
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 4: oh my god. That's old timer.

1131
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: We got to see it be beautiful. Protocols.

1132
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: Too much, man, that is too much we got to give.

1133
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: We went through Cody Way to give.

1134
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: Set this flowers here, I mean the fucking the goat

1135
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,959
Speaker 4: in my book, I'm a fan man. The uh six

1136
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 4: one two twenty five baby at a Davenport, Iowa. The

1137
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: kings Layer of the Architect, the curb stomp Baby. This

1138
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 4: is a one time Crown Jewel Champ. Fresh Stomp, Fresh

1139
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: the stump.

1140
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: I know. Sorry, I'm using the old school terminology.

1141
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 4: Two time w Heavyweight Champ, two time Universal Champ, two

1142
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 4: time w w E Champ, two time Iced Champ, one

1143
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 4: time Tag Jeam Champ, seven time No. Five time Raw

1144
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 4: Tag Team Champ, Money in the Bang, briefcase winner. He's

1145
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 4: like Caleb Williams out of here, number one overall pick

1146
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 4: in the w W draft. Don't forget it back in

1147
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen. Uh the number one over Yeah it was

1148
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. Sorry I missed up there, but uh yeah,

1149
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 4: I mean seth Rod's biggest guy going.

1150
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing I'm aerialist. I don't know where

1151
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: that came from. I haven't. I've never been the aerial list.

1152
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 2: That's yeah. They go wild on some of these nicknames.

1153
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't throw all the Ak's in there, just in.

1154
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 2: All the other ones. Crossford Jesus, CrossFit Jesus.

1155
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: You do gotta the CrossFit Jesus looks like that's cool one.

1156
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, I didn't. I don't know where that

1157
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: came from, but I mean I like it. It's good.

1158
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 2: I think I made a shirt.

1159
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: Now, where'd you get seth Rawlins from?

1160
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: Dusty? So Cody's dad came up with it, not came

1161
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: up with it, but put it together when we were

1162
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: getting hired at the time. Twenty ten's when I got

1163
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: hired with WWE, I was Tyler Black. That was my

1164
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 2: name on the independent wrestling circuit, which I got from

1165
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: two movie characters that I really liked, Tyler Durdin from

1166
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: Fight Club, Serious Black from Harry Potter put them together

1167
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: by him. That was my name. Then ww wants to

1168
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: own me, so I owned Tyler Black in perpetuity and

1169
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: they can't have it. Even if I try to sell

1170
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: it to him, they cannot have it.

1171
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: So if I leave, I could still be Tyler Black,

1172
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: and they didn't want nothing to do with that at

1173
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: the time.

1174
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: So we come up with a new name. So I

1175
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: just got lists of last names and first names that

1176
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: I liked. I don't even actually know why Seth was

1177
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: on the first name list. I think it was just

1178
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: because I was going through names that people didn't have

1179
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: on the main Rockster and Seth I don't know I

1180
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: put it on there. I don't think I had any

1181
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: reason for it. But Rollins was on there because I

1182
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: was a big Henry Rollins fan. I thought Henry Rollins

1183
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: was a cool guy. And uh, And I took this

1184
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: list of Dusty Rhodes American dream Baby, who was the

1185
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: head of creative and developmental at the time, and it

1186
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: was his job to suss out a name and figure

1187
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: out what he wanted, and he just really liked the

1188
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: name theth Ronan. He couldn't do the S and I

1189
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: think that popped him. And so he's death rolland a

1190
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: Mackie now baby that Rollins for WrestleMania. That's it, And

1191
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: so that was it. I wonder similar. Yeah, Final Final,

1192
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah that's deth Rollins, Depth Rollins. So yeah, I think,

1193
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: uh that that was it, and then I've been seth

1194
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:49,959
Speaker 2: Rollins ever since.

1195
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: Now, how did you come up with your your move?

1196
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: The stomp? Stole it straight upoint it. I stole it

1197
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: from a guy named Alex Shelley who wrestles in w

1198
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: W now he's in a tag team called MotorCity Machine

1199
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: Guns with Chris Saban. He stole it from a Japanese

1200
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: wrestler named Marifuji who Marifuji is like.

1201
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: A god when it comes to innovating wrestling moves, and

1202
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: neither of them ever did it as a finishing move,

1203
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: though I think I was actually the first person to

1204
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: ever do it.

1205
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: Is like I am finished. I was on a live

1206
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: event back in twenty ten or eleven at the time,

1207
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: I was doing a different finisher, but I was using

1208
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: the stomp as a like a signature move, you know,

1209
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: a false finish. I won two guy would kick out,

1210
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: and it just looked so nasty that the guy who

1211
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 2: was producing the show, his name was TJ. Wilson, he

1212
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: who's still a producer for WWB now. He was like, man,

1213
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: you should really think about using that as your finish finish.

1214
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: So the next night had another non televised event, I

1215
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: did it as a finish, and then that was my

1216
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: finish from then on. No, how do you do? How

1217
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: do you describe your style? I'm an ever, I can

1218
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: do it all. I have no style. I am. I'm like,

1219
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: I can do everything you need. I'm I'm in my opinion,

1220
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: I'm perfect wrestler. Well, no, because I'm I'm not too big,

1221
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm not too small. I can fly around, but I

1222
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: can brawl, I can do I can be technical. I

1223
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: can do any kind of match that you want me

1224
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: to do with no limitations. I'm strong enough to pick

1225
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: up guys that weigh four hundred pounds, and I'm not

1226
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: so big that I can't sell for Ray Mysterio, So

1227
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 2: I can do anything.

1228
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: I have.

1229
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: No I have no weak points when it comes to

1230
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: what my style is. If you need to have them,

1231
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: if you need a match, or you need a brawl,

1232
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: just a knockdown, drag out fight, you know, blood everywhere.

1233
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 2: I can do that. If you need a technicians like

1234
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: just boom boom boom, Rob Van Dam Jerry Lynn, I

1235
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 2: can do that. So it's like anything you need, I

1236
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 2: got it.

1237
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: I can position. Would you be I have a quarterback, quarterback?

1238
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: Quarterback?

1239
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean I'm thinking like I'm thinking athlete wise. Athlete wise,

1240
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: I'll probably be a safety. I think you're like a

1241
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: fast linebacker. Oh interesting, I'd have to put on some size,

1242
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: but not how much you wait too, twenty five to seventeen.

1243
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: That's then then you're like a cam Chancellor of safety.

1244
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm probably like to ten right now. Okay, well, then

1245
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: you're probably like a like an inbox safety. Then, yes,

1246
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: guy that can hits the play, the run, cover a

1247
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: tight end, dropping coverage blitz. Yeah, that's like that athleticism

1248
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: fits you. That's where I would see myself on this.

1249
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: They're like big dudes, but they're also the most athletic dudes.

1250
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: True.

1251
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: You know, they're not like d Lineman, even though some

1252
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: of the d ns are like they're sick now, yeah,

1253
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: crazy athletes. And you look bad ass with the hair

1254
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: flowing out of the back of the helmet.

1255
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I can pall mall without the curls. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1256
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: but that's if I if from athletic standpoint, it's probably

1257
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: where i'd say, because you also kind of got to

1258
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 2: kind of be I like that. You went quarterbacks like, no, no,

1259
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: I be the quarterback. That's no, no doubt about it.

1260
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: That's how my brain operates because I like to be

1261
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: in control. I have I have a obsession with control

1262
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: a little bit. Now, where did the sneaker head come from?

1263
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: I'm not a sneaker head at all. I'm not a sneakerhead.

1264
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: I have a stylist, and that dude is sick and

1265
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: he gets me everything I need. His name is Troy.

1266
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: Find him on Instagram is King Troy with and King

1267
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 2: Troy has been my stylist. When I started the visionary

1268
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: character he was doing. We did actually did like a

1269
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: maternality shoot for my wife. She wanted to do some

1270
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: pictures when she was in like you know, third trimester,

1271
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: and obviously she wanted to be involved in this, but

1272
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not going to address myself for this.

1273
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: She had a stylist, Troy, and I was like, just

1274
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: have Troy pick out my stuff. And he had been

1275
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: looking to style a dude anyway. He always styled women

1276
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Still styles some of the girls

1277
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: for WWE as well, and but he was he was like, shit,

1278
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: I'll do it. So he found me some suits and

1279
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: stuff for that and I turned out great, and I

1280
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: was like, hey, can I just like pay you to

1281
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: do this for me? You know, I'll do it on TV.

1282
01:02:58,760 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1283
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: I get because I'm I have no style. I have

1284
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 2: no My style is like this, the maroll Man's shirt

1285
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: is mine. But like he you know, I don't buy

1286
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: these jeans. I don't buy these shoes, like, I don't

1287
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: know none of that stuff. So normally I just wear

1288
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: like the most comfortable thing I can find. I have

1289
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: sweatpants that I bought from Walmart from twenty.

1290
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: Five sweat guy. It's like where you live in l A. Right, Yeah,

1291
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm a sweat guy when I was

1292
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: back East. Yeah, of course too hot. Yeah, I get that.

1293
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I like to free ball it

1294
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: in a sweat short, you know.

1295
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: Always. I understand this. I am with this. That's I mean.

1296
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: That was like the uniform at work when we go

1297
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: just sweats sweats, and Fridays we dress like Friday would

1298
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: be like our free dress Friday.

1299
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah. Yeah, So I I all credit to Troy dude.

1300
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: Anything you see that looks cool, he probably gave it

1301
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: to me. Check them out.

1302
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: Troy Troy with Troy knows ball man, he's got I mean,

1303
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: you're down and down under wearing the Deon Sanders that

1304
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: was so fresh.

1305
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: He got the Dion's for the geary, so that that

1306
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: those shoes, yes, those shoes. The shoe idea came from

1307
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 2: my gear guy. His name is Sarat. He does all

1308
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 2: my gear. So everything you see, like Troy, we're looking

1309
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: at these pictures here, Troy would have given me the

1310
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: jump suit on the top, but Sarat would have done

1311
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: the designs on the gear there at the bottom where

1312
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: me and Becky are taunting that idiot see and punk

1313
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 2: and then whatever shoes I was wearing, Sarat would have

1314
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: suggested those because he is a bit of a sneaker head.

1315
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: So he'll get on and like be like, oh these

1316
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: will match the kick pads, and get these and so

1317
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: that you know, we had the black and gold kind

1318
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: of look for Perth, and so he got the Dion's

1319
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 2: And you know, I've done like the foam posits and

1320
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: some other stuff.

1321
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 4: But days, baby, let's break. He hit this lead up

1322
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 4: pretty well. Seth gave it to us perfectly in the match.

1323
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 4: I mean, this thing had it all we had ellen

1324
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 4: to sell. Of course, first we got to lay out

1325
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 4: the rules here. No dques had to be a pinfall

1326
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 4: or submission in ring. We're here an Illinois baby pack crowd.

1327
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 4: The pet comes out, Hush falls over that place. I

1328
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 4: mean we were out back watching this thing. We took

1329
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 4: our breath away, the whole thing. This thing has starting

1330
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 4: it out going off the rope. Seth gets Cody gets

1331
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 4: going earlier, gets that fall. Then we go shopping, go

1332
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 4: shopping a little bit under there, a lot of shop,

1333
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 4: a lot of shopping.

1334
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: You think we're the home depot.

1335
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: Baby reaches under, says like, I don't want this toolbox,

1336
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: this hammer.

1337
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to box hammer. Oh not yet.

1338
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: I was just at that point he I think he

1339
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: has me in the figure four. Yes, I'm in a

1340
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: deep pain. I'm just reaching for something because there's no

1341
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 2: rope breaks. You know, on a regular match. If you

1342
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: submission and you get to the rope, and you know

1343
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: you tried it early, it didn't work early. Get me,

1344
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 2: get me something, give me a thing, and I you

1345
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 2: know hammer, I wasn't gonna be able to reach him by

1346
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 2: a sticky.

1347
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: What goes into the wey when you're you're playing this

1348
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: bad boy at you just going in there and it's

1349
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: like fucking the man.

1350
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 2: It's not a free before all, you have an idea

1351
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: of what you're gonna get, what weapons you're looking for,

1352
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And some of it's you know,

1353
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: a lot of it's just wrestling. You know, there's tables

1354
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: under the ring, there's a stick under the ring, there's

1355
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: a toolbox if you need it, There's you know, the

1356
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 2: stairs are out there. Obviously, the cage is a weapon

1357
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: in this to be used and then and then you know,

1358
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: there's some situations that we would get later in this match.

1359
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: You see. You know Cody had stashed his dad's bull rope.

1360
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 4: I hadn't seen a bull rope like in years years. Man,

1361
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 4: that was crazy. I wanted to ask you about the

1362
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 4: bull rope. Have you had much experience with that?

1363
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 2: Never? And he knew that and that's why he brought

1364
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: it in. He obviously grew up around it. He watched

1365
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: his dad have countless bull rope matches. He understood the

1366
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 2: mechanics of the bull rope, and he knew that my

1367
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: ego would not allow me to say no. I would

1368
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: have to tie myself to this man. You got him

1369
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 2: with that thing? You Yeah, but he he had he

1370
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: wore the tricks man. He got it underneath me between

1371
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: my legs, flip me over, used the cowbell on my dome.

1372
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: It was not good.

1373
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: More cowbell was not good.

1374
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean that's that was one of those

1375
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: things where he it played into you know, how can

1376
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: he he has one arm? What can he do to

1377
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: create a disadvantage from me? So he put me in

1378
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: a position that I wasn't familiar with. He was able

1379
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: to even the odds a little bit. I missed a

1380
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 2: big frog splash through a table here.

1381
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 1: Say you look like a member of Bill's mafia out there.

1382
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, some some some un some calculated risks that didn't

1383
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: pay off, and and uh yeah we got it the

1384
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: smash pedigree. Did I get him? I don't know if

1385
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: I got him with a pedigree in this match. I

1386
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: think his arm back and I was worried. I think

1387
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 2: I tried and he he said hell no, And he

1388
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: got me with one. But yeah, I mean I got

1389
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: I took I got him with everything, and he had crossroads.

1390
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 2: I gave him a crossroad and I couldn't put him

1391
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: away to his testament. He's a fighter, he was. He

1392
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: was not going down easily. So I ended up pulling

1393
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: out the hammer mentor triple eh for his dad. The dots.

1394
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: I was in a stage of trolling my opponents. Yeah,

1395
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 2: it started starting started with Ray Mysterio where I wore

1396
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: one of Ray's so I wrestled his son Dominic and uh.

1397
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: I wore one of Ray's old gears back at Summer

1398
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: Slam twenty twenty maybe, I want to say twenty twenty

1399
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 2: or twenty twenty one, and probably twenty twenty and and

1400
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 2: I kind of kept it there. I mean I wrestled Roman.

1401
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: I wore our old shield gear to kind of get

1402
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: inside his head. I thought the dots would be a

1403
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 2: great one. We even, you know, we did the kick

1404
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 2: pads just like Dusty's boots. I had a vest that

1405
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 2: was yeah you see it up there. Yeah, I was

1406
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: in full polka dot. Dusty hated the dots, so that

1407
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: was that was That was not his idea. If you

1408
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: will look back at his pre WW career, he never

1409
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: wore dots.

1410
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say it seemed very like the

1411
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: transposition is weird, like.

1412
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: It was a WWE, like let's create the vinsic man.

1413
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 2: Let's give some some personality type thing, and he hated

1414
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: the dots. So that was my way of kind of

1415
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 2: taking a shot at Cody in the little troll action.

1416
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 2: Also a little tribute action and and and yeah, you know,

1417
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: it ended up really kind of as you want your

1418
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: matches to be. It really ramped up pretty strongly towards

1419
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: the end, and once people got over. I think seeing

1420
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: how he was, he had a lot of like I said,

1421
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 2: you had a lot of interesting stories here, Cody's he's

1422
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: two and zero. I'm trying to get this win. You know,

1423
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: he can't take it easy because he's got the peck injury,

1424
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: so he's got to go ball to the wall. He

1425
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: knows this is probably going to be his last match

1426
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: for a while, so he's sending it just through the roof,

1427
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: giving it everything he's got. I'm trying to take advantage

1428
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: of the peck. You know, you've got the cow bell

1429
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: from Dusty, You've got the triple H sledgehammer, You've got

1430
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: all these little elements of our mentors and kind of

1431
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: how our stories have come and gone, uh and intertwined

1432
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: with each other over the years. And then you've got

1433
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: this just this spectacle that is this big red cage,

1434
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: this guy with this black and blue pack, two of

1435
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: the elite performers in our industry, and uh, you know

1436
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 2: what you have is a classic classic match. I feel

1437
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 2: it was awesome.

1438
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 4: I mean it was like you said, peppering in all

1439
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 4: the homages, but blending it with your guys it's feud.

1440
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: It was just like the story you guys were telling

1441
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: was incredible.

1442
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: Thank you. It was awesome. It was I thought it

1443
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 2: came off pretty well.

1444
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: Now, how does WWE get away with the fire code

1445
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: of blocking you guys in an arena thirty three thousand people?

1446
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: What do you mean not FD?

1447
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 1: We got to get you guys on the phone.

1448
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: Fire Marshall comes, you're locked into a cage.

1449
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: It just comes up.

1450
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: Thirty.

1451
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: Just press the button. It just oh, I saw the guy.

1452
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 3: How much are you checking in with Cody with his

1453
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 3: like injury during this whole match?

1454
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: Are you?

1455
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: Or is it like, hey, you're here, we're going for it,

1456
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 3: or you're like keeping tabs on him?

1457
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 2: If there was something that seemed off, I might have asked,

1458
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 2: you know, But honestly, it's one of those things where

1459
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 2: everything looked to me to be as safe as it

1460
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 2: possibly could be. There was nothing. Yeah, there was nothing

1461
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: where he like landed weirdly or you know, I wrenched

1462
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: it strange. Everything was that I did with him was

1463
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 2: pretty slow, and so there was nothing that Obviously he

1464
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 2: knew where the pain was going to be, and if

1465
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: he felt like we've gone too far, something wasn't gonna work.

1466
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: It was totally within his right to say, hey, let's

1467
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: not do that, or you stop that whatever you're doing.

1468
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 2: He never did, and so I felt like we were

1469
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 2: on the same page as far as what where we

1470
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: were at. And you know, I knew he was going

1471
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: to be in pain. He knew he was going to

1472
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: be in pain, and it was just a matter of

1473
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 2: what can we put together that it's going to work

1474
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: and still create that feeling of ick as you put it,

1475
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 2: that's really going to take this thing, because I mean,

1476
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: you can't you have to lean into that if you

1477
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: if you have the ick factor, you don't have that.

1478
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: You don't have that. You can't manufacture this set of circumstances.

1479
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 2: That's the beautiful thing about our business is like we

1480
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: can try to manufacture kind of great stories and sometimes

1481
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 2: it all works, but then there are things like this

1482
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 2: that you just you cannot plan for and you have

1483
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: to adapt. But those real life adaptations, like you said,

1484
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: that gray area that you look for where you're like,

1485
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: I don't really know when you find that. That's the magic.

1486
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: And that's why this match is special because we have that.

1487
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 2: It's very captive because of that, like you were drawn

1488
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: to it. You can't look away, you can't.

1489
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 4: I mean in case in point, the final sequence of

1490
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 4: those crossroads after crossroads.

1491
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: Like crazy man, dizzy, you're equilibrium with these I think

1492
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: all the time, Like a couple of times I've got

1493
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,440
Speaker 1: spun around it on a football field.

1494
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: You get dinged up. You don't know where you're at sometimes, Yeah,

1495
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 2: and that's like everything in this I think, ye know

1496
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,879
Speaker 2: where you're at. Yeah, I mean it is. Ring positioning

1497
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 2: is quite important when I when I would land, I'm like,

1498
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 2: which where are my feet?

1499
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: And then the cage got to make it more disorienting.

1500
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: Like the red page especially is really orienting. I found

1501
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: I prefer that. I think we've now since gone back

1502
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: to the regular like steel cage. The red cages was

1503
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 2: it was a terrible idea.

1504
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: It's like hitting a baseball. It's like you're to have

1505
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: the you know, the flat spot. If they're doing aerials

1506
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:35,919
Speaker 1: and ship you fucking see red.

1507
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: No good, it's no fun, It's true.

1508
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 4: And just to put a bow on this thing, Cody

1509
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 4: Roads got the wind and went three and oh in

1510
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 4: that trilogy back of the time. But as we talked about,

1511
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 4: I know, raw, just a couple of nights later, Seth

1512
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 4: came back in there and brought that sledgehammer back out

1513
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 4: and groups. But Cody, of course, miss would miss seven

1514
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 4: months after this pretty much with with the surgery.

1515
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: I believe like that it's impressive that he's doing that

1516
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: move right there, stretching. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like that's impressive

1517
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: into the match, you can't like crazy. What was your

1518
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: favorite part of this match?

1519
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: Favorite part of the match moment, even though it didn't

1520
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: work out too well for me, Probably the bull rope. Yeah,

1521
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: it was cool. I think I'd never never had a

1522
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: bull rope match. I've ever been strapped to one like

1523
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 2: that before. And you know, as someone who's been a

1524
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 2: fan of Dusty and had a connection with him, uh,

1525
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 2: to be strapped to his son, you know, with the

1526
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 2: bull rope in this kind of main event moment in

1527
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 2: this if as I was putting the bull rope on

1528
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 2: and locking it in. I felt I felt like it

1529
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: was a special thing that was happening. You nostalgia, Yeah, yeah,

1530
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: there was nostalgia, but it was the newness. It was.

1531
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's something that fell to the boys,

1532
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: that something that felt special in that moment. So that's

1533
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: probably my favorite part of it.

1534
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 4: Said, it worked in the story you guys were telling

1535
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 4: him in the match, and it just it fit perfectly.

1536
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, especially with my knee trolling,

1537
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 2: with rolling him with Dusty, he ended up getting it

1538
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: back on me with Dusty's own thing, and so that

1539
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: that was kind of a nice, little, nice little piece

1540
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: of it. I felt. Ye.

1541
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: With the aftermath, what's what's the what's the legacy of

1542
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:16,839
Speaker 1: this trilogy?

1543
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, the legacy of this trilogy, I think without it,

1544
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 2: you don't Cody Rose is not who he is. And

1545
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm fine. I think at this point, I've been up,

1546
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 2: I never left WWE. I've been here, I've been the

1547
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 2: flag bear. I helped take the thing to the next level.

1548
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: But I think there was a lot of uncertainty about, well,

1549
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: if Cody comes back, is he just going to be

1550
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 2: the same old Cody Roads. Is he gonna be dashing

1551
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: Cody Rose. Is he gonna be the guy that falls

1552
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: into the stardust trap? Is he going to be what

1553
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 2: is the American nightmare? Is it? Is it this guy

1554
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 2: that can take the mantle from John Cena and run

1555
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 2: or is it just going to be another flash in

1556
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 2: the pan and he's done. But I think these three

1557
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 2: matches and this performing especially really cemented him as the

1558
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 2: guy who could be the next guy. And I think

1559
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 2: the audience immediately believed in him, uh from this moment

1560
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 2: and he was their guy, and you saw he was

1561
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 2: able to go on an incredible two year run. After

1562
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: he comes back still running really but he he this

1563
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 2: catapulted him to the next level, and I think just

1564
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 2: solidified what I had already done and who I was

1565
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: for this company and for the industry.

1566
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: What a team player, you know what I mean?

1567
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 2: Quarterback?

1568
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: And just like when you bring in what you said

1569
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: earlier that you know we're like performers, would you you said, uh,

1570
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: artistic or like acting performers?

1571
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean we're which.

1572
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: I've done a couple acting lessons and they always say

1573
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: the best acting is when there's like a relationship and

1574
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: you're listening and you're pulling from each other. You know,

1575
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: you need that relationship because it is a performance. Yeah,

1576
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: and the heel, like you said earlier, if you can

1577
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: make the baby face the babyface, I mean, after this trilogy,

1578
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: he goes on and becomes pretty much you know, wwe babyface.

1579
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: That's a fucking team player.

1580
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's that's it. You need a dance partner,

1581
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 2: you know, and everybody's got different chemistry with different dance partners.

1582
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: And you and I have always had great chemistry.

1583
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1584
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 2: We did it again just recently at Ground Jewel and

1585
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 2: it was as fantastic as ever, and so but yeah,

1586
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 2: I mean it's at the end of the day, you

1587
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: have to understand what's the objective. What are we trying

1588
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 2: to get done here? What does the best business? How

1589
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 2: do we do that. You can be selfish all you want,

1590
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, it is a

1591
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 2: team sport. And you know, when you want to raise

1592
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 2: all the ships, not just your own, you know, and

1593
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 2: sometimes raising your own helps, but if you can raise

1594
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 2: everybody else's at the same time, that's the game. That's

1595
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: what you want to do. If the team wins we

1596
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 2: all win. That's right. That's what people don't realize. That's

1597
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: my course.

1598
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: Right, you win a super Bowl, everyone gets paid.

1599
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 2: That's right.

1600
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: Everybody gets paid, even even the guy that you know

1601
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: fifty three on that team, he getting paid getting paid. Fact,

1602
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: let's code it. Let's uh, let's let's name and grade

1603
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: this game.

1604
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 2: Match.

1605
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: But no we mentioned the Crown Jewel twenty twenty five,

1606
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: and then in twenty twenty four, you guys showed that

1607
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,799
Speaker 1: chemistry off and teamed up together at WrestleMania forty great.

1608
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 2: That's right, that was That was pretty darn cole Mane

1609
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 2: that lost got cheated, got cheated.

1610
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, this match was match of the year and this

1611
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: match ye.

1612
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah. There's a lot of people who from

1613
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 2: a really strongly at twenty twenty two. This was the one.

1614
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: Like I said, wrestling super subjective, so you know, you

1615
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 2: can look at it, but this one probably stands to

1616
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 2: test the time more than anything. I would say.

1617
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 4: Amen, that was that was awesome. Love love seeing you

1618
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 4: guys get back in the ring in Australia too.

1619
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: Let's name let's name the match and score the match.

1620
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: Is this the greatest match of all time? Oh? Decimals

1621
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: encouraged that we came up with these names, and if

1622
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 1: you have a name for it, you can call it

1623
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: in there. We'll put it up in there. But we

1624
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: came up with the hell in the cell okay, yeah,

1625
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: the final chapter, Yeah, third time is not the charm,

1626
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: all right? The torn Peck mat Okay, see at the

1627
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:21,440
Speaker 1: Crossroads match, see you cross at everybody?

1628
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 2: That's not like that one? That's the one. I think

1629
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 2: all sl is too obvious. We can get rid of that.

1630
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't the final chapter was kill that. I think,

1631
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 2: you know, see at the Crossroads? Yeah, I think you

1632
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: know what. I think it's simple. But I think I

1633
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 2: like the torn Peck match torn well, everyone knows it

1634
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 2: by the torn Peck. Yeah, I think that's the one

1635
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: that's the most the biggest identifier. And I don't know

1636
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: how many, uh, Like, I don't know how many torn

1637
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: Peck matches you're gonna get, you know what I mean, Like,

1638
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how many outs. A lot of helln so, yeah,

1639
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 2: a lot of hell in the cells. The third time

1640
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 2: not the charm.

1641
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 1: The others tore that bicep came back for the playoff.

1642
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, how the fuck do you do it?

1643
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: How did he do it? Was that that was that

1644
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: the Deer were a friend of the show. It's deer

1645
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: antler p or. I don't know what.

1646
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: Stakes of this match zero to ten decimals encouraged seth.

1647
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 2: Oh steaks steaks, I say ten ten ten. I mean

1648
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: the stakes were at their highest here because we're talking

1649
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,879
Speaker 2: life and death. We're talking I mean, we're talking everything

1650
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 2: could go wrong here. This is not a walk in

1651
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 2: the park. This was not like a Ah, if we

1652
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 2: don't do well here, it's fine. You know, you had

1653
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 2: everything was riding on this match. This is I mean,

1654
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 2: if this goes poorly, I'm telling you, WrestleMania forty doesn't happen.

1655
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 2: WrestleMania forty thirty nine doesn't happen. None of it happens.

1656
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 2: If this doesn't go just right and get us exactly

1657
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: where we need to be, the last three years of

1658
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: the business as a wash.

1659
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: That butterfly is crazy, you know, after learning it has

1660
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: changed my score because I mean this is coming out

1661
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: of COVID. COVID kind of screwed a lot of stuff up.

1662
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: Then you guys had to springboarded back. I'm gonna go

1663
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: with the eight point two at a seven point nine,

1664
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 1: a four point one, four point one.

1665
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 3: There, I take it from a perspective of not in

1666
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 3: the CAFA world, from the outside world. So just I

1667
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 3: can't score the stakes because it is, you know, crafted

1668
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 3: and written in something like what.

1669
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's where that's where I'm at.

1670
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 1: So so because so, because we have a plan for

1671
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: the performance, there's no steaks. Well that's why you're telling

1672
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: you got four point one if it was no stakes

1673
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: to be zero.

1674
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 2: Now it's the worst argument you've ever made in your life.

1675
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 2: Oh no, I gave it a four. But because you

1676
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 2: guys it out, that means there's no stakes.

1677
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 1: The funny part is is Becky lit me up for

1678
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: this too, because I also had a low score in stakes.

1679
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: So you're just because because this is you're just biased

1680
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: against postic bias against because my when we get forward,

1681
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: my star power is very high.

1682
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 3: My game plays pretty high. Like I respect the craft

1683
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 3: of it. I think it's incredible, like what you guys

1684
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 3: do in that blend.

1685
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm offended by the fact that you think because we write,

1686
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: because the show is the predetermined, that there's no stakes

1687
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 2: involved or sorry, low stakes. I'm pretty offended by that.

1688
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 2: There's there's wild steaks at play and on what we do.

1689
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: It's it's we're talking we're talking livelihoods of human beings.

1690
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 2: It's not just me and Cody making money. It's an

1691
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 2: entire roster and it's it's entire crew, and it's a

1692
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: business that we're we're feeding families, families. There are children

1693
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 2: who are better fed because of this match. Now, like

1694
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: not just like two like not Cody and my kids.

1695
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm talking about like Crewe. I'm talking about wrestlers and

1696
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 2: their kids. Everybody made more money because this was successful.

1697
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stakes riding on this. I'm offended

1698
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 2: by the fact that you and that not just not

1699
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: just my match. I'm talking about all matches that have

1700
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 2: that are at the upmost level. There's a lot that

1701
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 2: goes into play to try to make sure that this

1702
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 2: business stays afloat and that there's money to be made

1703
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 2: all around. So that's my rant. Do we have a

1704
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 2: sledgehammer under the couch?

1705
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: I won't be able to use it, though, So let's

1706
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: see if Kyler could boost his little score up on

1707
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: the next one star power zero to ten star power.

1708
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with an like an eight and a

1709
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: half on this eight and a half, five, eight and

1710
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: a half on this. Yeah, like you guys were at

1711
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: this time the two bigs of the league, so sort of,

1712
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: but we're on the come up a little bit.

1713
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 2: We're like right below the tip tip top, you know

1714
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like I'm there, but again I'm not.

1715
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: I'm not going into WrestleMania. In the main event this year,

1716
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: that was Roman Reigns of Rock Lesner, Right, so I'm

1717
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: not that guy. I'm not the ten just yet. Cody's

1718
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: coming back, He's we're building him for WrestleMania, we're building

1719
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 2: him at Backlash, and now we're here, and so I

1720
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 2: think we're almost there, but we're not quite at the

1721
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 2: like elite elite level of the superstar.

1722
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: Boys there ascending. I go eight eight seven for grounk

1723
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 1: nice Nice at a eight three. We're all on the

1724
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: same we're the same boat. There we go. The gameplay

1725
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: or the match play, A lot of a lot of

1726
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 1: fucking tools, a lot of weapons, the gameplay of the

1727
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: match bull.

1728
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: Rope rop what does that entail? What is gameplay entail?

1729
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 3: Did you watch the Super Bowl? Get the Pages versus

1730
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 3: the Falcons? Of course, that's a great gameplay, right, It's

1731
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 3: an entertaining product. It's back and forth, it's you know,

1732
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 3: anything could happen kind of like, so it's like great

1733
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 3: play happening. It's great to watch as a fan. Like

1734
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 3: it's entertaining all the way through. It comes down to

1735
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 3: the last second. So it's like kind of like the

1736
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 3: actual product on the field or on the in the ring.

1737
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. I see that. So from a

1738
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 2: gameplay standpoint, I'm gonna go with like a I say,

1739
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 2: like a nine on this one. Yeah, we're on a

1740
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 2: nine gameplay for me.

1741
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the I haven't seen the bull rope

1742
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: since guys are having the loot late last of Boots,

1743
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: I gotta go with eight point nine nice And I

1744
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: was terrified as arenas man that's when they were doing

1745
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: the bull rope at a seven to one.

1746
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: Little low for me, But.

1747
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: I guess I'll stick with it.

1748
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 2: Not a no, that's fine, that's fine, I understand it.

1749
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 2: It's not for everybody.

1750
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: It's just love.

1751
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 2: It's a slow it's a slow paced match. It's a

1752
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: slow paced match, so you're not gonna get a lot

1753
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: of the action, but you get like this element of

1754
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: drama and this fear that doesn't always exist in pro

1755
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: wrestling because of the predetermined nature of it, And so

1756
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 2: you get there. There's an element of reality that exists

1757
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 2: throughout this match where you feel how he's feeling, more

1758
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 2: so than I think some of the stage combat matches.

1759
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: So that's why I gave it a high score. That

1760
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 2: drama kind of limits the actual action.

1761
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: Still, the drama, it's more impressive that they're even doing

1762
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: anything with this guy. Ye got nothing like I'm Winston

1763
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: the whole mass you'.

1764
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 3: That's something that we don't generally score is the like

1765
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 3: drama leading up to it. And maybe that's a place

1766
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 3: where my stakes score might be a little bit low

1767
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 3: because I'm coming from a sport like a two teams,

1768
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 3: no determined outcome kind of thing.

1769
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:32,839
Speaker 2: So I'm taking into drama in stakes.

1770
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: But there is drama in your head right now.

1771
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: Right now dog like I said, he's biased against professional head.

1772
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: Lastly, we name or we grade the name of the game.

1773
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 1: This is the torn Peck match. Culturally, how will people

1774
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: remember this like that we're grading that.

1775
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: They were grading just the name itself, the name cultural

1776
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 2: impact bod like like where it's.

1777
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: Placed in the people will remember this. So if you

1778
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 1: said the Torn Peck match, people remember this, people know

1779
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: this match.

1780
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 2: Well, I think yeah, I think if you say, because

1781
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 2: if you're like the Revel and Seth the match you

1782
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 2: know the torn the one with the Torn Peck where

1783
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 2: you got the torn pack, immediately immediately go oh yeah, yeah,

1784
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 2: I know exactly where it is. That's a good name,

1785
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: but but it's still like, it's not the sexiest name

1786
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 2: in the world, So I'm probably only gonna give it

1787
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 2: like a seven.

1788
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 1: It's not quite Rumbleland Jungle, but yeah, yeah.

1789
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't have that, and I can throw it

1790
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 2: on Manila, you know the same.

1791
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: I think it's like an eight too. Oh nice, you know,

1792
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 1: because I think you know exactly what Like you do

1793
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: you remember the immaculate reception?

1794
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: Well, I went six seven. I didn't even realize it.

1795
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: Forty years ago. Yeah, macular reception.

1796
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 2: You're gonna know that.

1797
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna know this in twenty years because no matter

1798
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 1: what you say, you will always remember the fucking peck.

1799
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you will always remember that he changed it, he

1800
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 2: modified it. I did modify it. Yeah, you went up, Yeah,

1801
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: I did all.

1802
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: I went five to one.

1803
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 3: It's hard to gauge the cultural impact because this match

1804
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 3: just happened a few years ago. So maybe if we

1805
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 3: were to come back to this game in a decade

1806
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 3: or this match in a decade, that number probably goes up.

1807
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 3: Because you have it's hard to tell when you're in

1808
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 3: like an art movement, when you're in it, you can't

1809
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 3: really appreciate it while it's happening.

1810
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 1: I understand have to look back. I can accept that.

1811
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: What do we got on a score? So the final

1812
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: score is seven point seven to one?

1813
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 2: Or is it on the match?

1814
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: That's going to put us?

1815
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 3: Wow, that's going to put us It's tied for a

1816
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 3: new sixty second match game all time the tune of

1817
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 3: Bowls versus Patriots nineteen ninety seven.

1818
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 2: That was a Bill versus.

1819
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: And it's just below Super Bowl twenty one, Giants versus Broncos.

1820
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Yeah, and then just ahead of Super Bowl seventeen,

1821
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Bills.

1822
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: Wow, what's number one on this list.

1823
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 1: It's a little bit there's no bias. It's a little

1824
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: biased bias.

1825
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 2: No bias at the top of this list at all. Zero.

1826
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 3: To be sure, we are over exposed to Patriots coming

1827
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 3: on the show. Those relationships and Jackson super Homer if

1828
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 3: you saw me.

1829
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:14,839
Speaker 2: Two belts seven? Oh nice? Nice? Yeah, Becky two belts.

1830
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 2: That's great.

1831
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: That was an ald timer.

1832
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: Good for her. That's Sean and Brett up there wrestling

1833
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: at twelve. That's cool. What are some other matches we did?

1834
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: We got the Iron Man match, Yeah, michaeldheart Rock versus Mankind.

1835
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 4: Yep, Dolsaker, Luke Harper, that was that's back there one

1836
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 4: o six awesome match.

1837
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: Got Charlotte Flair is in there as well. Yeah, Charlotte

1838
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: was great.

1839
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 2: Yep.

1840
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 3: Is there a match wrestler combination that you'd like to

1841
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 3: see us do?

1842
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, a match wrestler combination? I mean, I think

1843
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 2: the most important match that we've had recently, with the

1844
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 2: most story and the most bill they could probably push

1845
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 2: this list strong is the WrestleMania forty nine two main

1846
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 2: event with Roman and Cody and they kind of the

1847
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 2: death of the bloodline and all the things that went into, uh,

1848
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 2: that whole story and then getting to that point where

1849
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 2: Roman finally loses the title. I mean, that's that's a

1850
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,919
Speaker 2: that's a watershed moment in our I'd say our industry.

1851
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think there's anything else. What did what

1852
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 2: did Rick did? What did Rick dock?

1853
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:27,560
Speaker 1: He did a steamboat? He and Ricky steamboat Chicago, the

1854
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 1: Windy City Classic, Yeah, City Classic. That it was his

1855
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 1: favorite match because of the technical of an about it.

1856
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 2: That was.

1857
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: From eighty nine. Nice. It was like an hour. It

1858
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: was like an hour or something. They weren't in there

1859
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 1: getting after it.

1860
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 2: Man.

1861
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: I always thought, that's one of those guys. His name,

1862
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: real name, Ricky Blood, like Ricky.

1863
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 2: That's so much cooler to ring.

1864
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 1: I was a time when like Asian action figures were huge, Yeah,

1865
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: because like all the blood sports, you know, back in.

1866
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 2: Back in the day. Gosh, yeah I think that you remember,

1867
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 2: you know, but you know what I'm talking about of course. Yeah, dude,

1868
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 2: that era, like the Van Damn era. Yeah, they were

1869
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 2: all the big bad Asian heels, but they were all

1870
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 2: like they were all tompo and yeah, fucking kicking the Yeah. Man,

1871
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 2: those guys were sick.

1872
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 1: Those guys were dope.

1873
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 2: Man.

1874
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 4: That was And that's another guy that Rick talked about.

1875
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 4: The incredible chemistry they had together and working together.

1876
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and really and.

1877
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 1: There was a lot of good build up to that.

1878
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 1: He said, as individuals and pros were they connected with him.

1879
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: He always loved steamboat, he said, really craft heavy match. Yeah,

1880
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 1: you appreciate it, said, I don't. I don't want to

1881
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: hold you any longer.

1882
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 4: But like, how much are the legends like coming around

1883
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 4: when you guys are do you come in contact with him?

1884
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,600
Speaker 2: They're a round enough. Yeah, I mean they're not like

1885
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: strangers or anything like that. I'd say, like anytime we

1886
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 2: go to there's always somebody nearby that popped through, especially

1887
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 2: WrestleMania time when the Hall of Fame, you know it's

1888
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 2: going on there, we see, you know, legends are always

1889
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 2: coming through that week stuff like that. A lot of

1890
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 2: them are on like the convention circuits and stuff like that,

1891
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 2: and so they're they're doing signings or appearances or they've

1892
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 2: got you know, we've got a lot of other kids

1893
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 2: or nephews or whatever nieces who are on the roster

1894
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 2: and stuff. So they're all around and stuff. So yeah,

1895
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 2: I mean they're around. It's it's very cool to uh,

1896
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 2: to kind of be in that space. It's you know,

1897
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I've gotten I've gotten spoiled.

1898
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 2: I've just been around them for decades now that I'm

1899
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 2: just you know, it's like, oh, you know, like Sean

1900
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 2: Michael's just got both of his knees replaced the same

1901
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 2: week I was doing my shoulder surgery, so Sean was

1902
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 2: down there in the rehabit. I'm just like, there's me

1903
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 2: next to Sean Michaels, you know what I mean. But

1904
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 2: it's like he's my peer now. So it's like it's

1905
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 2: just a weird thing where like I've become I've become

1906
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 2: like one of them, you know, like I work with

1907
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 2: Triple H every single week. You know, like I've been

1908
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 2: on Stone Cold's podcasts and like had beers with Steve,

1909
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,839
Speaker 2: but I've also just like called Steve for like advice.

1910
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, I've got these guys who

1911
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 2: I grew up idolizing, they're now like colleagues and peers,

1912
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 2: and I'm just I'm really spoiled.

1913
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm just spoiled that I get to live that

1914
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: part of my dream in a way that you know,

1915
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: some people don't that It's it's a crazy thing to

1916
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 1: realize sometimes, Yeah, I won't ever, I don't think.

1917
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 2: I don't think you know, for me, you know, my

1918
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 2: wife is like you got to understand for kids growing up.

1919
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 2: Now you we're talking to you and meeting you, it's

1920
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 2: like is when you were a kid if you could

1921
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 2: meet Sean Michaels. You don't understand that, but that's what

1922
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,600
Speaker 2: it's like. And I'm like, you're right, I don't understand that.

1923
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 2: I will never understand that. That to me is like

1924
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 2: my brain. I had one one person tell me, you know,

1925
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 2: I cash in my money in the bank contractor wrestle

1926
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 2: Mania in twenty fifteen to say like six years later

1927
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 2: something sometime and last five years somebody told me for

1928
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 2: them that was their Hogan slamming Andrea moment. Wow, Like

1929
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's crazy. That will never make

1930
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 2: sense to me like that that I cannot feel like.

1931
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 2: I still just feel like I'm a kid that grew

1932
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 2: up in a small town in Iowa. And the crazy

1933
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 2: thing is feel bad.

1934
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be even bigger than them because of

1935
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 1: the information era. Now, Yeah, these kids and you guys

1936
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 1: are cut up on social so like people are like

1937
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 1: kids will see you from other countries that they'll see

1938
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 1: a fifteen second clip of you, and like it's I

1939
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 1: think that wrestling is just so much bigger now massively,

1940
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like even with like football,

1941
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 1: like people are so biased to like the the recent eras.

1942
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 1: They and it's because the recent eras are fed to

1943
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 1: the machine in the system moregithm, the algorithms.

1944
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. The old ones are barely

1945
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 2: even on. Yeah.

1946
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: So like this generation of stars is huge, It's going

1947
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 1: to continue to go and will be the lasting and generation.

1948
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 2: That's fair.

1949
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 1: That's you, bro, It's it's crazy to think it is wacky.

1950
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,759
Speaker 1: Dude said, do we miss anything from this match?

1951
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 2: Gosh, I don't think so, man. I think we covered

1952
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 2: it pretty good. Covered. Cody covered me, covered, Dusty, covered

1953
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 2: some of the little easter eggs in there, story lead up,

1954
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 2: I got a little macho man little vision and poke

1955
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 2: in there. Yeah, we got I mean we covered a

1956
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 2: lot of it. I think. Is there anything else you

1957
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 2: guys wanted to know before we dip? Yeah?

1958
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: Last thing I want to ask? Yeah, we always ask

1959
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: our guests. What is wrestling to you?

1960
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 2: Oh man? Wrestling in my life, it's a it's given

1961
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 2: me everything the good that I have to be honest

1962
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 2: with you. You know, I met my wife there, we

1963
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 2: have our daughter. I mean all all The ability that

1964
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 2: I have to have a wrestling school stems from being

1965
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 2: a wrestling fan and being successful in the industry. Most

1966
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 2: of my closest friends who have met in the last

1967
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 2: twenty years or through professional wrestling. I've been able to

1968
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,799
Speaker 2: travel the world and inspire people who don't speak my language,

1969
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 2: who don't look like me, you know, from Saudi Arabia

1970
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: to Kuala Lumpur to Santiago, Chile, to Anchorage, Alaska, every

1971
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 2: state in the country. So I've been able to travel

1972
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 2: the world, see all these different things, experience all these

1973
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 2: different things. I'm able to, you know, support my family,

1974
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 2: my extended relatives. I'm able to, you know, drop something

1975
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,799
Speaker 2: at the drop of a dime, to be if someone

1976
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 2: needs me somewhere because of wrestling. So anything that I

1977
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 2: have that's good. This business has given to me and

1978
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 2: so I owe it everything. It owes me nothing, and

1979
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 2: I will do everything in my power as a as

1980
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:55,959
Speaker 2: a grown man, to make sure that the next generation

1981
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 2: of the business has it better than I had it,

1982
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 2: and I had it pretty good. So that's how I feel.

1983
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Long winded answer, but I loved I love the business.

1984
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 2: It's done everything I have ever dreamed of. It Moore Man.

1985
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're such a thoughtful dude. Thanks, Like, just every

1986
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: answer you've had has been so just insanely inspiring. And

1987
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 1: wrestling is lucky to have guys like you, and it's

1988
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: if wrestling gets guys like you, wrestling will always be wrestling.

1989
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,679
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on, my dude, thanks for having

1990
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 1: me and everyone. Everyone's got to go check out WrestleMania

1991
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 1: in Vegas April twenty twenty six.

1992
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 2: We're back. We're back two years in a row. Hopefully

1993
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 2: I'll be available. Oh, he'll be back.

1994
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 1: We'll let's go, he'll be back. Let's go. Anything else

1995
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: to plug?

1996
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 2: No, man, I mean, look, I got my wrestling school

1997
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 2: with that thing runs itself black and blave wrestling dot

1998
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 2: com if you want to check that out, or the Instagram.

1999
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 2: Got coffee shops. Got a couple of uh, big coffee guy,

2000
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 2: Big coffee guy. I got a couple of Iowa three

2001
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,679
Speaker 2: nine two cafe. Me and my wife just recently invested

2002
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 2: in a coffee company out here in La called Daglo.

2003
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: Oh one just moved to my neighborhood. It's so good.

2004
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 2: Uh no larchemint not yes, yes, the best best coffee

2005
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 2: in a Los Angeles, hands down, it's so goods down.

2006
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 2: They got four of them around where getting the beans

2007
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 2: from Daeglo roast their own dude. Yeah, they have their

2008
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 2: own from somewhere, don't we. They get them all over

2009
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 2: the place, dude. Yeah, the Columbia, any any of the

2010
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 2: coffee belt countries, I mean they do it all.

2011
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: So. Ethiopian has some really good coffee. Is some of

2012
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:40,759
Speaker 1: my favorite beans. Always very fruity and bright in the coffee.

2013
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ethiopia, Honduras. I mean your list goes on and on,

2014
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 2: because there's a whole coffee belt. You can check it out.

2015
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, Daeglo rocks, So if you're into that,

2016
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 2: you can check it out. I think it's Daglo Dot

2017
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 2: coffee or like, drink your Daeglo coffee on Instagram. Not sure,

2018
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 2: but yeah, I think those are my big things.

2019
01:38:59,800 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: Man.

2020
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 2: Check out my wife. She's still on the show every

2021
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 2: Monday on Netflix. The Best to Ever do It, Becky

2022
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 2: Lynch and Cardinal Champion. And I think that's it.

2023
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming on, my dude, cheers. We'll be

2024
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 1: right back after this quick break. Man, So cool, insightful, cat,

2025
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: very insightful, very very gratitude guy, I like that. He's

2026
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: a fox old guy. That's the guy you want you're

2027
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: living with. You A team player, team player man.

2028
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 2: He's just.

2029
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 1: He's got like a good energy where like it's a

2030
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 1: healthy like I I'm confident in my life. I like great,

2031
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:51,560
Speaker 1: great dad, great husband, great worker. No Peter Griffin, but

2032
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 1: he's a family guy. I love that, Tyler. I think

2033
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 1: we yeah, I'm sorry real quick before I might come

2034
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: back and beat you up. You and all you would

2035
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 1: think you would appreciate the role of heal is that

2036
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: you You're the heel. That is that what shaking in

2037
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 1: your boots is called healing? All Right, your scores get

2038
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:20,719
Speaker 1: influenced way mind, your scores are only ever point Tony Rhoads.

2039
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 1: Who's Cody Roads? Fucking the baby face? Is the w

2040
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 1: W E right now? Dude? I mean we just talked

2041
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: about it and still he's still talking about bro Seth freak.

2042
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 2: For a for wrestling it is.

2043
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:46,799
Speaker 3: It is artistic theater, right that's highly athletic and highly skilled. However,

2044
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 3: the stakes, the outcome of the match, which we can

2045
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 3: only ever look at the outcome the match is predetermined.

2046
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 3: I don't I love the craft of wrestling. I think

2047
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:59,719
Speaker 3: It's great how they can blend athleticism, but the stakes

2048
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 3: aren't high.

2049
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,160
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2050
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2051
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Speaker 1: slash g w N and always celebrate responsibly. Perfect for

2052
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 1: moments like this when you can just choose, choose chill,

2053
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 1: that's always the right show choose. You need to choose chill, Kyler.

2054
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: You need to chill, Kyler, you need to choose it.

2055
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: What do we need to baby? You choose chill? Mm sorry,

2056
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 1: I was just slipping my cold man a little bit

2057
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 1: of that. I'm in the rockies because right now today

2058
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: bro isn't an extra hard warm. Nothing cools you down

2059
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 1: like a silver bullet.

2060
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 2: Baby.

2061
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: I didn't like it, Kyler, chools you now, I'm like.

2062
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:49,759
Speaker 2: Some Colorado coolie.

2063
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 1: Cut that silver bullet.

2064
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 2: Talk.

2065
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 1: Come on now today, would you say you said something

2066
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: over there?

2067
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 2: What?

2068
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that ship didn't grin?

2069
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 2: What do you talk about?

2070
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: You gotta go crack a couple more than out back

2071
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 1: after this? Oh height now, oh, today, we're gonna pull

2072
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 1: back the curtain a little bit.

2073
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 4: We love pulling back the curtain on life inside the NFL,

2074
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 4: all the aspects of it, not just the on.

2075
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 2: The field stuff duels.

2076
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 4: Today, I want to go over nutrition and food in

2077
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 4: the NFL, particularly from your standpoint, I mean just as

2078
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 4: a as a whole. First off, what is what's an

2079
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 4: average day in season look like from a grub perspective

2080
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 4: for you?

2081
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 2: Why?

2082
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 1: I can only speak with I can only speak on

2083
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,480
Speaker 1: how it was at the Patriots yep. And it evolved

2084
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: for sure. You know, like when I first got there

2085
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 1: there there was Dietitian and then we got another one.

2086
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 1: We got ted shout out ted who uh he took

2087
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 1: it pretty seriously. We'd have food stations. We had like

2088
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:54,759
Speaker 1: fruit bars, and everything was labeled either it was gold

2089
01:42:55,000 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 1: or silver, gold, platinum, oh or bronze oh unlike the

2090
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 1: health benefits and so like if you go to like

2091
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 1: the fruit station, you'd have like, you know, the raspberries, blueberries, pineapple,

2092
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: and then you'd have the labels of what they were

2093
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 1: according to whatever study head was going through that, you know,

2094
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. Yeah, you know this is good

2095
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: for your your blood, you know, so we'd have that

2096
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 1: all categorized. I don't know, it's like it's part of

2097
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:27,639
Speaker 1: their like nutrition.

2098
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually awesome.

2099
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you'd always have the fruit station was always available.

2100
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 1: You walk in on the left, Fruit station always available,

2101
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Salad bar station which same thing, and then you know,

2102
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,799
Speaker 1: three times a day morning you get there, they'd be breakfast,

2103
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 1: hot hot bar. You'd have your your eggs, your protein, chicken, sausage,

2104
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:55,759
Speaker 1: pork sausage, bacon, turkey bacon. There'd be like a starch,

2105
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 1: a hash brown of some sort. Then you had live

2106
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 1: action station like this, you know, so you know during lunch,

2107
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 1: that's that hot station would be a theme for the day.

2108
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: And then what you know, if Chun was around, we'd

2109
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 1: have you know, Jamaican Week and we'd have the jerk

2110
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:16,759
Speaker 1: chicken and and it'd always be a beef chicken fish.

2111
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 1: It'd be two vegetables once again, everything having your grade

2112
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 1: system so on that that hot meat, say it was

2113
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 1: a beef, it would be like maybe you know, uh,

2114
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 1: for that day, it could have been like a silver

2115
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,759
Speaker 1: or maybe a gold. But then there's like the fish

2116
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 1: or something that's like a platinum that was real good.

2117
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 1: Whatever the grading scale oil you need. And then you'd

2118
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 1: have so then I think we have our gratings. So

2119
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 1: you have fruit, vegetables, hot station. Then you have live station.

2120
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Then you'd have like sometimes are the live station. Favorite

2121
01:44:56,200 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: was the bison meat. The bison meat, what is it uh,

2122
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 1: the crunch traps, crunt trap bison meat, crunch trap supremes.

2123
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 1: They would make the crunch traps right there with with

2124
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: bison ground bison, so they get the little like tostata thing.

2125
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 1: They put the bison in the being and like guys

2126
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 1: love that. They would make them fresh off. So you'd

2127
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 1: have like four or five things at the live station,

2128
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 1: and then you also had smoothie bar and snack station.

2129
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:31,600
Speaker 1: Snack station would be all like the healthy snacks, and

2130
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 1: so each year you so the food you had great

2131
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 1: food we had, we had, you know, I thought we

2132
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 1: had pretty good food. It's anytime you'ren cafeteria, stuff gets repetitive, sure,

2133
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 1: but the quality of the food was really good. We

2134
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: also had like cambucha station. By the time I left

2135
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 1: Fort Health Gut Health nice, they had huge smoothie station,

2136
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 1: which I believe I'm a huge I feel like I

2137
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 1: was one of the pioneers of that smoothie time, making

2138
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 1: smoothies smoothie time, and then we got the station. But

2139
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: I would always make my own smoothie they had. They

2140
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: had smoothie makers are smoothie ladies. But I always had

2141
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 1: to get back there and do my I was you

2142
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 1: know what kind of like what are you putting pro

2143
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 1: does for my smoothie? I would go uh. I would

2144
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 1: go with like a I like the the plant protein,

2145
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 1: and then I would use the collagen so you got

2146
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 1: still the but it's but that comes from cow. I

2147
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:31,759
Speaker 1: would go greens like uh, spinach because I'd take spinach

2148
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:34,200
Speaker 1: from the spinach station. I was big with a lot

2149
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 1: of blueberries, banana uh. And then I would put in

2150
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 1: almond butter, almond milk, and then I would put in

2151
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 1: like the tomberic.

2152
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 4: Uh.

2153
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 1: And then they had a couple other couple other things conibs, maaca.

2154
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 2: I was sipping on. I was a big smelly I would.

2155
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 1: You know, and I would I would immediately put a

2156
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 1: smoothie in my body when I first got to work,

2157
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 1: and then i'd go do like my I would get

2158
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: there like five thirty five point fifteen, so like the

2159
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 1: food stations get popping around six, so I'd hit that

2160
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 1: and then I go do my routine and then I

2161
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 1: would come back and I would I would nibble on

2162
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 1: some eggs. I'd get like like two over over medium

2163
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 1: eggs or maybe an omelet nice, just to get some

2164
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 1: hot food because I wanted hot food, you know what

2165
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: I mean, hot food.

2166
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 2: Like to nibble.

2167
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 1: And then after that you got like hours of meetings

2168
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 1: and then you come back and you come back in

2169
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:37,640
Speaker 1: the cafeteria and then it's the lunch section and you

2170
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 1: go through. And I was always like I'd probably nibble

2171
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 1: on another smoothie and then nibble on some protein that

2172
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 1: they'd have, and then I would go practice and you

2173
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:51,679
Speaker 1: come back and I'd have another smoothie and then nibble

2174
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 1: on what.

2175
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 2: You know, I would nibble.

2176
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't eat a lot of it because I'd go

2177
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 1: home and I had a chef that would cook according

2178
01:47:57,320 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 1: to you know, my blood type.

2179
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 2: I was.

2180
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask how that was it a

2181
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, And I think they even

2182
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 1: do that with the team now, where they would pull

2183
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 1: your blood and they'd send it in analyze it to

2184
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:15,719
Speaker 1: see what your bodies and taper everyone's diet of different

2185
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 1: according to their blood. Like I couldn't have mustard seed

2186
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 1: out that was like an inflammation factor my body. But

2187
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know whatever reason I was. I

2188
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: ate alligator a bunch because it's got the omegas of

2189
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 1: and it tastes like chicken, a crocodile. It is one

2190
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 1: of it's it's like a fish and chicken put together.

2191
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 1: You get like there's more protein than fish. But it

2192
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: has the omegas that fish have, So there's like a

2193
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 1: lot of like good benefits to it.

2194
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 2: You were eating a lot. It was even.

2195
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah again, I didn't know that. You know, my blood

2196
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,600
Speaker 1: type is. I don't know what my blood type is.

2197
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 1: I I do, it's written down, but I don't. I'm

2198
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 1: not one of the people that like, hey, I'm twenty

2199
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: two d's to fishient. Oh yeah, no, I feel you

2200
01:48:59,120 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 1: mine's being negative.

2201
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 2: That's a heck of appsicles.

2202
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 1: Take jo right there, that's a heck of opsicles.

2203
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 2: Actually negative universal donor be negatives? Which is that stamp?

2204
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god? That was good. Did

2205
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 1: I just explain anything? You know? How did that evolve? Like,

2206
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure you weren't like personal chef when you started

2207
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 1: in the league. No, but you know, because I got

2208
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 1: sick of taking the food home from the stadium. So

2209
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 1: most guys taking food home you can because after night

2210
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 1: meetings are done, they'd have dinner, you know, because a

2211
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 1: lot of guys do that. When I was young, I

2212
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: would eat all my meals at the stadium. We're in Foxborough,

2213
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:43,600
Speaker 1: so like there's there wasn't a lot of stuff and

2214
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 1: you weren't gonna cook. So a lot of your food

2215
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 1: intake for a lot of the players is from that.

2216
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Gronk to the day left grocery shop there.

2217
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 1: He stops by every now and then, still does.

2218
01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 2: He lives there. Looks like.

2219
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:02,160
Speaker 1: Like when you go to his fridge, it looks like

2220
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 1: what the facility looks like. You got your gatorade section,

2221
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 1: your protein section, your water section, your shot section. There's

2222
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:13,640
Speaker 1: like protein like the refrigerated protein section. Protein bars.

2223
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 3: Now outside of meals, like the catered meals that they

2224
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 3: have were they're like snacky, yes, go grab.

2225
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:27,280
Speaker 1: Jerkeys, any kind of plant protein bar, regular protein bar.

2226
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:30,599
Speaker 1: They had had a huge section of snackables, a lot

2227
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 1: of nuts, certain nuts. We had nut stations, trail mixed stations.

2228
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 2: You know.

2229
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 1: Then it was the big I mean I thought it was.

2230
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 1: I didn't come from anything great. I went to Kent

2231
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 1: State and you know, so like I was fascinated with

2232
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 1: it now how much like Tom Brady's diet is well

2233
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 1: known in sound Yeah, but how much were they catering

2234
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 1: towards him or is he just doing his own thing?

2235
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 1: He would make they would make him an individual meal,

2236
01:50:57,720 --> 01:50:59,640
Speaker 1: Like later on in my career, I'd have an individual

2237
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 1: meal if I was doing what Tom was doing pretty much,

2238
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like trying to eat healthy.

2239
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 1: If Tom was doing it, I would try to do

2240
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 1: the same. Wa like he just maybe want to put

2241
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 1: throw a little more meat in there. Yeah, yeah, I

2242
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 1: like that.

2243
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 2: What did uh?

2244
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 4: We've mentioned it on the show before, but it feels

2245
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 4: apropos in this section.

2246
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 1: You tell people about fat Friday. Oh, fat Friday, Yeah,

2247
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 1: so far, Pizza Friday. Every Friday, it's a shortened day.

2248
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 1: There's no there's no night meetings, so it's not really

2249
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 1: short in the morning the same morning, right, but there's

2250
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 1: no after post meetings, and it is a little I

2251
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 1: don't think it is. It's as long you get out

2252
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 1: of round two. And they we'd always have get bets

2253
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 1: on when when it when we'd get out and stuff like,

2254
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 1: because it was we'd always go over, would never be

2255
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 1: at when we're supposed to get out.

2256
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 2: And so.

2257
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 1: Each week would be a different catered outsourced place. Love that,

2258
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 1: you know. So they'd bring in Chick fil A. They

2259
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:05,839
Speaker 1: bring in you know, Davio's everyone. You know, the Patriot

2260
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:08,719
Speaker 1: play stuff was huge Ruby Ruby Tuesday.

2261
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:10,879
Speaker 2: Guy Guy has a restaurant.

2262
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 1: Patriots probably had Guy's thing. They'd be in five guys.

2263
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 1: There'd always be so there would always be a sushi

2264
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: like station. We bring in the sushi I think from

2265
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 1: a fish bar or whatever it's up there. And then

2266
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 1: there would be like we we used to have to go.

2267
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 1: They used to have to send people like like New

2268
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: Hampshire before they had Chick fil A in the area,

2269
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we get chicken spots

2270
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of guys would have a

2271
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 1: lot of guys, like Chicken was putting people on the

2272
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: choke and there Pete. Sometimes there'd be pizza.

2273
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 2: I liked.

2274
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 1: Honestly, I liked five five guys day. It's because the

2275
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: five guys hot dog sawn the middle.

2276
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 2: Yes, and they pay him.

2277
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, bro like so like goaded are all

2278
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: these options available most Fridays or so like this is

2279
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 1: chick fil A, it'd be like Chick fil A and

2280
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 1: something there be. There would be a couple things. I'm

2281
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 1: pretty sure sushi was always brought in. You get sushi.

2282
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 1: What else were hits? I remember when they bring Chick

2283
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 1: fil A and guys would just go crazy. Guys love

2284
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 1: chick FLI everyone loves chicken. Chick fil A is like

2285
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: a great after sport, like little Girls and stuff with

2286
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 1: Lily Chick.

2287
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:29,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2288
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:38,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't What else would I forget some of the

2289
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 1: good stuff because white, the white being chicken chili there

2290
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 1: used to slap everything.

2291
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 4: I've heard tails. What about? Would you ever do a

2292
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 4: cheat day during the week in the season.

2293
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it.

2294
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do a cheap day, but I would I

2295
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 1: would nibble on like if we had we had we'd

2296
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 1: have donuts on Saturdays. We'd always get them from Canes

2297
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:01,760
Speaker 1: Hanes Donuts out and or it's north of Boston, we

2298
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 1: just drove Sagas and I love Knes and there'd always

2299
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:09,480
Speaker 1: be a little knife there and guys that were conscientious.

2300
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 1: Would you just take a little slice of a donut

2301
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 1: and you taste it, just a little nibble, Do you

2302
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 1: a little nibble like that? They're on gold gold belly

2303
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 1: I tried it, didn't didn't didn't work well? Didn't it

2304
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:25,639
Speaker 1: as well? No, they came all jacked up. I tried it.

2305
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 1: I love knees donuts. We gotta get one of coaching assistance.

2306
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 2: They got a good glazed donut. Love that.

2307
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 3: Is there anyone on a team that was like I know,

2308
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 3: we've heard legend of Chadinkos.

2309
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 1: Anyone that was like notoriously like terrible with food? Nah?

2310
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 1: But I remember when I was young, Greg Lewis used

2311
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 1: to come in. He used to come in with the

2312
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 1: Duncan uh sausage egan cheese every day and like a

2313
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 1: dunkin a cup of coffee. And it wouldn't be every

2314
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:58,440
Speaker 1: day he'd have a sausage, egg and cheese croissant I

2315
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 1: think from Duncan. It just cracked me up. Greg Lewis

2316
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 1: down there in Baltimore right now with coach. How many

2317
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: calories were you burning? Like gay a lot, especially early

2318
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: on in my years because I was on like I

2319
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 1: was on scout team. You're on special teams, very little

2320
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 1: rest time. How much are you, like, how many calories

2321
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 1: a day do you think you were eating?

2322
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, I was.

2323
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 1: It was all pretty calculated because you're you're naturally counting

2324
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 1: every time you're putting something in by the you know,

2325
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 1: when you start knowing, And then a lot of it

2326
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 1: is when you can eat. Okay, you know it's the timing.

2327
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 1: Like after like a practice, you're you're pretty swamped, your

2328
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 1: body's you know, pretty inflamed because you're you're going so hard.

2329
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 1: You want to fuel it with the Then you know

2330
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 1: it's win. It's not what more win than what? Yeah,

2331
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: did you have any like pre game, either the day

2332
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 1: of or the night before, like routine of like oh,

2333
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 1: I always want to have more carbs, or I want

2334
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: to have this or that, you know, I used to

2335
01:55:58,560 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 1: just I used to get a lot.

2336
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 2: Always.

2337
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 1: We would always stay in a hotel and you'd always

2338
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 1: have a marin Era meat sauce, some sort of like

2339
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 1: chicken breast, pasta white brown rice. There'd be steak. There'd

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01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 1: be like a pasta section where you could like, hey,

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Speaker 1: can I get some chicken and some pesto and you

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01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 1: know that in there shrimp in there, like I would

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01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 1: hit I would hit that sometimes because you you can

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01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 1: over up on load up on some carbs the night

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01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:35,040
Speaker 1: before a game. But I always probably I was always

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01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 1: born with it. I would just get like a few

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01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 1: scoops of brown rice and I put the I'd always

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01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 1: judge the hotel by the meat sauce. Put the meat

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01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 1: sauce on chicken breast, a couple of you know, some

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01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 1: broccoli or whatever carrots we had, or I'd hit that

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01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 1: pasta station.

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01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 4: I love it, Like no matter the level of sport,

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01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 4: post or pregame, hotel food is always the exact same.

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01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 4: It's always the same. Damn Elon basketball manager. We have

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01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 4: the same exact thing. I still every time we go

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01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 4: on around Denver.

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01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what hotel we stayed there, but they

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01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 1: had really good food, really and sometimes you stay in

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01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 1: other when you stay in other hotels in different areas,

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01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 1: you get like the theme of that area. Sometimes there

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01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 1: would be like one dish of the theme of that

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01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 1: if like there'd be like a Georgia, there'd be like

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01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 1: some peach pie or cobbler, local flair dessert bar section

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01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 1: or you know, you go to like Denver had like

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01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 1: I think they had like some Southwest ship, but I

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01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 1: remember their their meat sauce being really good. And then uh,

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01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, like whenever you play in like a highly

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01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 1: dense Italian area. You'd always have really good Italian food

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01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 1: because Tom would always see and then and then the

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01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 1: night before games, Tom would always buy the linemen like

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01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 1: the specialty restaurant of the area.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and I.

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01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 1: Would sneak in there and go grab some of that too,

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01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, like like if we were in there. He'd

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01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:59,919
Speaker 1: always have some like really good Italian restaurants from in Miami.

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01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 1: He loved this one Italian restaurant in Miami, and the

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01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 1: Lineman would always get it, and I'd go Browns, get

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01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 1: some leftovers, leftover carbone with the boys.

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01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 2: I love that, Yeah.

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01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 1: Or New York, you know, there'd always be like some

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01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 1: good stuff. Or we had pizza and in Chicago because

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01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 1: you'd always get like one of the trainers is from

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01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 1: an area, and so there'd always be like one little

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01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 1: area a room that had.

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01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 2: Like a specialty. Go get a nibble on that's so fire.

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Speaker 1: Now, one more thing before we wrap up game day?

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01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 2: What's your game day? Nutrition?

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01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 1: Looked like same is the night before pretty much, except

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01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 1: they had they'd always have a chicken broccoli sauceless pasta

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01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 1: with like penny yeah, and I would limit my sauce.

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01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why I just I'd get a bunch

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01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 2: of that.

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01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 1: And I'd have peb and jys because we'd always have

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01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 1: p pre PB and J's made. You'd have those which

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01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 1: I saw. I went back recently, they're making homemade uncrustables Wow,

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01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 1: the healthy stuff wow.

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01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 2: Or they're cutting them and shipo.

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01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: They're making them at the facility instead of because they

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01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:11,840
Speaker 1: used to just give you little. They make a peeb

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01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:15,000
Speaker 1: and jan and cut them and then saran wrap them. U.

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01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 1: You can get half some each. You can get half

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01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 1: with almond butter, uh, strawberry on wheat. Then there would

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01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 1: be a section of peanut butter with grape jelly on white.

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01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 1: You know, there would always be a different sections. You

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01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:30,919
Speaker 1: can mix it up. There'd be a peanut butter banana.

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01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:33,800
Speaker 1: There's always peanut butter banana, honey, that Elvis vibe, you know,

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01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 1: if you didn't want a jelly like they look.

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01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 2: It's pro thinking. They're thinking for.

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01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 1: Those report cards and stuff. When some of these teams

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01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,480
Speaker 1: are getting it makes me wonder like, is it we're

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01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 1: because some of our stuff was kind of bad and

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01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 1: I was like, it's still pretty good.

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01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 4: The only one I remember is the Cardinals make guys

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01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:52,640
Speaker 4: pay to take home stuff, No, do they.

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01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 2: That's a couple years ago.

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01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:57,840
Speaker 3: I think that's reports you ever eating during a game,

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01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:00,520
Speaker 3: like during half time or anything. I remember sances with

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02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 3: a hot dog.

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02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 1: No, I when we save Miami in Septembers, you burn

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02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,840
Speaker 1: a lot of calories. Yeah, it'd be hot, so I

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02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 1: remember I would yell at Ted, I need calories and

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02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 1: bring me some kind of bar or something. I mean,

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02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 1: we'd be no huddle and ship running. It gets hot

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02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:21,720
Speaker 1: and you're not in like mid season form. So I

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02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:25,040
Speaker 1: remember eating at halftimes. There'd always be at halftime. There'd

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02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:28,959
Speaker 1: always be pickles, peeb and J's in the in the half.

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02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:34,160
Speaker 3: Oranges oranges too, yeah, with someone's mom hand them out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:38,680
Speaker 1: And then when it was cold, there'd be chicken broth

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02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:42,680
Speaker 1: and hot cocoa coco. There'd be some hot cocoa in

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02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:45,800
Speaker 1: there too. I ain't mad at that. Oh yeah, that's awesome.

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02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 2: I love learning.

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02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:48,240
Speaker 1: I love any time we're talking grub. I'm down. But

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02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:50,480
Speaker 1: there'd always be pickles. I always just not on a pickle.

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02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 1: A little salt, had a little girkin, Give me that gerkin. Yeah.

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02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:58,919
Speaker 3: Well, if we missed any questions about nutrition and food.

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02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:02,880
Speaker 1: Dropping in the comments said sound off, and.

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