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Speaker 2: Wait, so the league didn't.

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Speaker 3: Jabari, No, no, no, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Pretty sure they did. They were like, hey, you know

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Speaker 1: Uh, the Calves and Thunder are each still on pace

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so we're gonna talk about those teams because

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Speaker 1: we're doing all that with Chris Bartnett on today's episode,

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Speaker 1: one of our favorite returning champions.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack O'Brien. You know, I'm producer in for Miles

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Speaker 2: and this is my mouse.

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Speaker 5: We are boost Dottory, got it.

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Speaker 2: I look at hitch okay.

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Speaker 6: And be driving Spinny Fatter number.

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Speaker 5: Eighteen that's been secured the Celtics or NBA champions over

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Speaker 5: the couple team right night.

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Speaker 3: Be honest with the t look shot time put you go.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Chris Barnett, welcome, Welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good. It's great to be back. I love

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Speaker 3: listening to mad Boosties. When it drops, I put it

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Speaker 3: coming here just brings a smile to my face knowing

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Speaker 3: I'm with two two dope basketball minds at any given time. Sorry, Jabari,

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Speaker 3: I know Miles isn't here. Just joking. I mean I

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Speaker 2: Go there, half.

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Speaker 1: Ter, What does your son think? Just I can't accept

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Speaker 1: the compliment. Does your son hate the show?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: You said you listen, you know what.

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Speaker 3: My son is a swimmer.

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Speaker 3: I try to get I try to get him into basketball.

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Speaker 3: He watches it, but he's not He's not there yet.

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Speaker 3: It'll get there? How get there?

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Speaker 2: Eleven eleven? All right?

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Speaker 1: You know, my my mom's dad, famous basketball coach. My

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Speaker 1: They're like, what are you watching?

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Speaker 1: They are so quickletely out on basketball. It is just

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Speaker 6: and that's not you know, I already told you my

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Speaker 1: This is a very interesting time in the National Basketball Association.

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Speaker 1: You cover the NBA at large on Watch Playback TV

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Speaker 1: and x Spaces. You've covered the Indiana Pacers. We're going

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Speaker 6: A new voice, another voice to build upon what you've

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it that you're no, You're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 2: Uh no, that's fair enough, right back.

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Speaker 3: only are they doing this a team practice, they're doing

435
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: this at their individual you know, skills session, like they

436
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 3: they they'll warm up jacking up you know, one hundred

437
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: shots before they even get into their skills work with

438
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 3: their trainers, and thirty or forty of those are oftentimes

439
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: thirty footers, forty flooters and fifty footers and they're making

440
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 3: them in practice. So like, this is something that I've

441
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 3: always hard thought I always thought you should go into

442
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: like a one two one one trap zone if you

443
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: are less than three seconds then because that way you

444
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 3: at least get the ball out the hand of the

445
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 3: main guy who's going to get the ball and forced

446
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: them to make an extra pass. So that I've always

447
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: been a component of that. There are a couple of

448
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: other college coaches who do it, but you don't see

449
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: it in the NBA. They don't practice it in the NBA.

450
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 3: They don't So it's one of those things. Do they

451
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 3: pick them up full court then you run the risk

452
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: of increasing the foul calls. Or do you put like

453
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: a line at the at the half court line? Do

454
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 3: you put you know, Luke Cornett? And if you got

455
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: to time out and you put them, you know at

456
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 3: the at the logo and say, hey, as soon as

457
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: you see the ball go up to his shoulders, guy

458
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: just run up and jump half court Cornet.

459
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Uh, what a challenge the half court Cornett.

460
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just jumped straight up. You know, try to

461
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 3: take the rim out of the view and try to

462
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: mess it up. But these guys are some of the

463
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: best athletes in the in the world, on the planet,

464
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: so like it shouldn't it shouldn't be shocking to anybody

465
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: that this has happened.

466
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: That's why I learned how to hit three quarter court

467
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: shots with my eyes closed so that I'm impossible to defend.

468
00:23:59,520 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 2: We do want.

469
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: I wish a happy birthday to Victor Wembingama, who birthday

470
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: probably already too old.

471
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's twenty one.

472
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 4: Over the hill man lost given another year.

473
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: But just a quick rundown like I.

474
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 1: You know, every time he put up one of these games,

475
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: I saw it, but I haven't seen it all listed

476
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: in one place. So Jabari, thank you for putting this together.

477
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: So one game this season he put up fifty points,

478
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: hitting eight threes on sixty two percent field goal shooting.

479
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: Another game forty two points, eighteen boards, six threes, four blocks,

480
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: thirty four points, fourteen boards, eleven assists, five threes, thirty points,

481
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: ten blocks.

482
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: To another game esus that is.

483
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: Twenty four points, thirteen boards, nine blocks. Another damn near

484
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,479
Speaker 1: triple double twenty five points, nine boards, seven assists, five steals,

485
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 1: five blocks, four to threes.

486
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,479
Speaker 6: That that one fuck people are complaying and people are

487
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 6: still going pla about the way he plays.

488
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 4: And I get it if you're a traditionalist, but come on,

489
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 4: that's just fun.

490
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 3: I know a few traditionalists and we talk offline, and

491
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: I kept trying to tell him like, look, I'll give

492
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 3: you one name, like we'll chamber Wind. Okay, right, Yeah,

493
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's the next Will. I'm saying he's

494
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: this generation's Will. He's seven to four. He's physically impossible.

495
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: To gain plan form.

496
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 3: This guy, when he actually hits his veteran game, could

497
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: walk in give you thirty fifteen, five or six assists,

498
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 3: a steal and a half and five blocks per game

499
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: on an average, shooting forty nine percent from the floor,

500
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: eighty three percent from the line, hitting four or five

501
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: threes a game, And at that point, it's just not

502
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 3: fair anymore. Yeah, He's just simply it's not fair. And

503
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 3: I think I think we all, we all just need

504
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: to enjoy it because there's a lot of people that

505
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: are traditionalists. Are all are they know they looked at

506
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: the path, This dude would would would drop fifty on

507
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: Patrick Ewing. You just have to understand that and accept it. Right,

508
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: Maybe Haki Elaijawan, you know, locks him up in the post,

509
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: but he'll take him out on a three point line

510
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: and pump fake them and then dunk him two steps

511
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: and then like, that's how good he is. And that's

512
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: why everybody who was an international scouter talk to him

513
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: for five years when he was thirteen, was like, yo,

514
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: this kid is somebody to start watching for the league.

515
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: And a lot of people didn't believe it. But now

516
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: that he's over here and you see it's much. He's

517
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: must watch TV. You you have to just see it

518
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: in person too, because the TV doesn't do it justice,

519
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: it really doesn't. You gotta go see him live. Guys.

520
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 3: I don't care who your favorite team is, but if

521
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: San Antonio is rolling into town, you know, pony up

522
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: the Ducats and get your butt in his seat, because

523
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: it is. It is breathtaking, it's mesmerizing. It's like watching

524
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 3: Lebron James all over again, but someone who's seven foot

525
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: four and doing things that even Lebron can't do. So yeah,

526
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm all for it. Into the traditionalist man, I'm sorry,

527
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: but he's gonna break records.

528
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm sorry to the traditionalists. As always, I'm always

529
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: so sorry to them.

530
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that drone display of the extremely tall

531
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: guy in Dubai, you know, like that that's what it

532
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: feels like watching him, but I still I still haven't

533
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: seen it in person, So I need to do that.

534
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: I need to get my buttons in the seat and

535
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: seeing him. Oh, actually we saw him in person for

536
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: his very first that's right, for his very first summer

537
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: league game, which he My main takeaway was he's really tall,

538
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: but also just watching how he moves, like just on defense,

539
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: how he affected every shot that went up in the

540
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: half court like was I was like, oh, this is

541
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen that before. Like he

542
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 1: is in people's head every single time. Granted those were

543
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: you know, summer league players, but it was it was

544
00:27:59,440 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: pretty well.

545
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: He had folks making business decisions with the ball.

546
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: Every decision that you make when he's on the defensive

547
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: side is a business decision. Yeah, all right, let's take

548
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: one more quick break and we'll come back. We'll hit

549
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: a couple more stories and we will.

550
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: Do the rapid fire round a question.

551
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.

552
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: And we're back and all right.

553
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: Before break, you were saying that the Spurs team would

554
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: be a perfect landing spot for Jimmy. Jimmy wants out,

555
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: as we as had been rumored, and the heat were like.

556
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: That guy's a liar.

557
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't want out. He actually things are going extremely well.

558
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: And then he was like, okay, I want out, and

559
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: so they suspended him. And now they're admitting that, okay,

560
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: maybe he does one out. So people are wondering what's

561
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: the best landing spot for him. I also have the

562
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: Spurs on my list, but I do for somebody who

563
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: has such little patience for young players who aren't like

564
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: ready right now, who don't like have his level of

565
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: motivation cut throat uh focus on winning, like Jimmy Butler

566
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: can be a volatile presence like is that too much

567
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: of a win now move? Is it too are you,

568
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, throwing a firecracker into the locker room bye

569
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: by putting Jimmy Butler in there?

570
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: But I would I would say no, Chris Paul's in

571
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: that locker room. The reason well, yeah, that's that's the

572
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: two that's a two way answer then, because.

573
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: Now they already have a firecracker going off in that locker.

574
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: But but also Chris Paul and Jimmy Butler want the

575
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: same thing. They want to win. And when you get

576
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: close to your mortality in any professional sport and you

577
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: are a great player, and you haven't won. It starts

578
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: to eat at you, and then you start being willing

579
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: to do anything and everything, including things you wouldn't think

580
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: you used to you wouldn't do to win. Like Chris

581
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: Paul going to San Antonio was one to get to

582
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: the middle, but two to win. Because my guess is

583
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: he sees the vision, he'll sign a one in one

584
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: that's at a lower rate. But like, let's just work

585
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: this out. It's not like it would be bad. You

586
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: probably move off of Kelden Johnson and Harrison Barnes, but

587
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: Jimmy's an upgrade over either of them. You might have

588
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: to add in a young player like Jeremy Sohan, but

589
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: like right now, Jimmy's still an upgrade over him, and

590
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: he plays the same role as Jimmy and San Antonio's offense,

591
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: you have the young players that you don't even play

592
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: because you already have other good young players that you

593
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: could then add to the deal or even bring in

594
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: a third team. You have the cap flexibility because you

595
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: already were losing your best players on a rookie deal,

596
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: your second best players on a rookie deal. Your third

597
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: best player was basically an undrafted free agent in Champagnee

598
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: and like it could work, they would still need to

599
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: bring on another shooter. But like, if you put him

600
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: in Texas where he's from, right, and you get him

601
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: out of where he doesn't want to be, that alone

602
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: will give him the avenue to be less hostile Jimmy,

603
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: to be more I'm the team Jimmy, because he understands.

604
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: He thinks he can still do it, and he might

605
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: still be able to do it sometimes, but deep down

606
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: he knows that he's close to the end of his career.

607
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: You'd have him next to Devin Vessel, You'd have him

608
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: next to Victor Windanyana, you'd have him next to Stefan

609
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: Castle CP three. That's just it's a cheat code. Not

610
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: only that at practice they're gonna adopt his mentality at practice.

611
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: They're already adopting CP three's mentality at practice. To me,

612
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: if I'm the Spurs, yeah, it's a no lose. It's

613
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: a no lose. If he opts in. You got him

614
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: for one more year and he's in expiring, you could

615
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: trade him again in the off season, or you could

616
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: trade him at the deadline if he opts out. Guess what,

617
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: it's not like you were gonna bring back Harrison Barnes

618
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: like you already had shot Calton Johnson, and these young

619
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: guys that you have that aren't getting any minutes, guess what,

620
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: they're not gonna get minutes because you still got the

621
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: young guys in front of them. So to me, it

622
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: makes sense. The part that I always wondered though, was

623
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: with Pop going out, would the coaching staff be able

624
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: to accommodate him? And that's the only hold up that

625
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: I have.

626
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 6: I gotta be honest with you, You've actually made a

627
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 6: convincing argument, and I'm a lot more on the on

628
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 6: the side of that thought than I would have been

629
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 6: because my initial thought was no, Like the last point

630
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 6: you made is probably why I'm a little bit more

631
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 6: skeptical because, like, specifically, you make that Jimmy move if

632
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 6: that's gonna make you a title contender, and I'm not

633
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 6: saying that a happy Jimmy alongside Wimby and you know,

634
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 6: even a relatively healthy CP three isn't a team that

635
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 6: can do some damage, because it is. But I don't

636
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 6: think you make that move because that's not a title team,

637
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 6: and the risk versus reward, you know, then you start,

638
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 6: you know, then you do. You look at it like, okay,

639
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 6: so we took the risk. We had to give out

640
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 6: assets on top of it. We can't recoup those if

641
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 6: he doesn't work out there, you know. I I for me,

642
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 6: I look at it as like if I'm RC Buford.

643
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 6: I look at it like if this were one year

644
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 6: from now and we had a couple more pieces in line,

645
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 6: I would consider this a lot more.

646
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: Now.

647
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 6: I can be wrong, and maybe, you know, maybe they

648
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 6: do pull that deal, you know, maybe they do bring

649
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 6: him back to at least this home area. I think

650
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 6: he's like from from a Dallas originally, or like that

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Speaker 6: area originally. If I'm not mistaken, you maybe that may

652
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Speaker 6: that would be good. But for me, it feels like

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Speaker 6: more of a desperation. Do you And what I mean

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Speaker 6: by that is teams that are desperate, like the Suns,

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Speaker 6: or like the Warriors, or like teams that are we

656
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 6: need to win now, we need to win right now.

657
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Speaker 4: I think those are more likely to.

658
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Speaker 6: Be the teams to make it, you know, to consider

659
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Speaker 6: a move for Jimmy at this stage, I want to

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Speaker 6: correct myself. He's from Houston, but you're always actually from

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Speaker 6: jet raandls from Dallas. Sorry, Jami's Rings from Now You're right, the.

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Speaker 2: One that gets mentioned a lot of Memphis.

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Speaker 1: That one makes I think it makes sense to people

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Speaker 1: is like, all right, they need a veteran presence to

665
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Speaker 1: like get job, you know, in line, make sure that

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Speaker 1: the madness doesn't keep happening with jaw and historically, like

667
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Speaker 1: the Jimmy Butler, Jimmy Butler's historic rind set persona fits

668
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Speaker 1: with the historic Memphis persona.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, I think.

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Speaker 1: You've convinced me that san Antonio might be the most

671
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Speaker 1: interesting from a narrative perspective and might be the right

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Speaker 1: thing for san Antonio to do, Like, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: I just feel like with CP three, like people are

674
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Speaker 1: always like, you know, like they don't always love him,

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00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: but they're I feel like people are always like I

676
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: learned a lot from playing with him, you know, or

677
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Speaker 1: as Jimmy.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times the teams are just like, yeah,

679
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: that was that was something that was an experience. So

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Speaker 2: that's the one thing that I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just reserving judgment on which of those will be

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Speaker 1: the right spot I would take him in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, I was gonna say if they

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Speaker 4: if they offered I got for you. If they offered

685
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Speaker 4: him and they said, you know what, give us, give

686
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Speaker 4: us PG, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I mean yours. Yeah, but here's the one for you.

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Speaker 2: But here's the one for you.

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Speaker 6: What about what about throwing back, throwing him back to Minnesota,

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00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 6: throwing them back in Minnesota? I don't know, along along

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Speaker 6: side Edwards as opposed to alongside cat.

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Speaker 3: That's the dog needs another dog? Common I forgot who

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Speaker 3: you know what that is? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, on the feeling A would not be happy about that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Jimmy would not be happy about that. Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You you you you would have to figure out where

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Speaker 3: Randall's going because nobody's gonna take go back. That's and

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Speaker 3: then if you move go bet because of the salary,

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Speaker 3: then you're with Randall, Jimmy and and and and that

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Speaker 3: would be musty TV. But not for the reasons you.

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Speaker 6: Think as much as I make as much as I

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Speaker 6: make light of Gobert, No, you can't move. You can't

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Speaker 6: come off go Barry like you move those with nineteen

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Speaker 6: firsts and Heaven and Earth for him. Plus that would

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Speaker 6: just make you too small, because you know, I would

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Speaker 6: not trust Randal and you know na As Reed is

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Speaker 6: our primary bigs in any series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, last story before we get to the

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Speaker 1: rabbit Fire. Out of questioning, I do so aunt score

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Speaker 1: fifty three and a loss to the Pistons. Our Boosty's

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Speaker 1: hit seventy or bust curse continues at pace. No player

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Speaker 1: who scored sixty in the calendar year twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: won a game. If you scored seventy, you won. And

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Speaker 1: now that the handscheck rules in place, sixty has become

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Speaker 1: less common. So fifty is the new sixty. And that's

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Speaker 1: also not enough. You gotta do more for us. But

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to so Jabari you were pointing out,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Timberwolves still hovering in the eight to

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Speaker 1: ten seed category. The cat trade is looking more and

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Speaker 1: more like. He is currently sixth in the odds for

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Speaker 1: MVP race. He's currently ahead of Jalen Brunt in the

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Speaker 1: odds for the MVP voting, like sixth in MVP voting level.

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Speaker 2: Good season.

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Speaker 1: He's having fourteen boards a game, fifty five field goal

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Speaker 1: pers said forty four from three.

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Speaker 2: Like I knew he was having good a good season.

728
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Speaker 1: I did not realize he was having like he's the

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Speaker 1: new best player on the Knicks and he's one of

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Speaker 1: the best players in the league level good season.

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Speaker 2: That is shocking.

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Speaker 6: It's like when your ex glows up. When your ex

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Speaker 6: clows up and all of a sudden, it's like, Yo.

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Speaker 3: Where, what where did that come from? What are we

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Speaker 3: doing here?

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Speaker 4: That's what that feels like.

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Speaker 3: So so the biggest knock on Cat the entirety of

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Speaker 3: Minnesota was he's a little bit soft and he didn't

739
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Speaker 3: play defense. Gobert gets there and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: Cap becomes an elite defender, go look at the stats.

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Speaker 3: Becomes a elite defender, and then he gets to New

742
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Speaker 3: York and people are like, oh, well, he's gonna get

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Speaker 3: to New York and like, he's just going to go

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Speaker 3: back to the way that he was, and he didn't.

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Speaker 3: He got better. Because the team is actually a better team,

746
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Speaker 3: doesn't mean they have the best player. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think would be almost all of them one on one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he beats cats. Cats just too big.

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Speaker 3: But he's still averaging a steal in a block essentially

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Speaker 3: per game. He's still actually playing helpside defense. He's rotating

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Speaker 3: out to the perimeter like he's doing what Anthony Davis

752
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: was known to do. He just doesn't have the two

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00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: and a half blocks per game, but he is fit

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Speaker 3: in to exactly what the Knicks needed, which was a

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Speaker 3: dominant rebounder who didn't want to dribble the ball five

756
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Speaker 3: or six times out on the perimeter and take a

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00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: bad three for it. And like I mean, I think

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00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: we all know like who I'm talking about. But when

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Speaker 3: you have synergy, which is what the Knicks we're targeting,

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00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: this is what happens. Great players become that much better.

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Speaker 3: And it's been a wonderful season to watch for him

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Speaker 3: and for the Knicks. I honestly just you know, want

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Speaker 3: them to lose because also as a Sixers fan, like

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Speaker 3: Boston's number one in in me, but New York ain't

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Speaker 3: too far right there.

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't care, like I just I only

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Speaker 1: have room in my tiny cold heart for one enemy,

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Speaker 1: and that's the Celtics. Uh all right, it is that time.

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Speaker 1: It is the rapid fire round of questioning. Uh, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna throw a couple questions at you, no

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00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: time to think, just bing bang boom, I'm back. Uh

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Speaker 1: and Jabari you want to you want to kick us off, I.

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Speaker 4: Will, I will.

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Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, I'm gonna actually have you

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Speaker 6: picked the game of the week for us, because that

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00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 6: is something that we've been doing and we want to

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00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 6: keep that keep that tradition. So you these are your options.

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00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 6: Friday night you got Bucks at Magic. You also have

779
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 6: Thunder at Nicks. Saturday night you got Wimby coming to

780
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Speaker 6: La to play the Lakers. Monday next Monday, you got

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Speaker 6: Bucks at Knicks or Pacers at Calvs.

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Speaker 3: What's your game of the week. I'm gonna go with

783
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Speaker 3: the Knicks and Thunder. I'm gonna go with the Knicks

784
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: and Thunder and tell you why in ten seconds. It's

785
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: a contrast of styles. Styles make fights. And I want

786
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: to see this site, Okay, I just I want to

787
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: see it, and I wish Chet was healthy, but I

788
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: gotta see iHeart against Kat. I gotta see s g

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Speaker 3: a versus the combination of the cow Bridges and og

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Speaker 3: and a nubi, you know, taking terms trying to lock

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00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: them up. I gotta see Lou Dort put Jalen Brunson

792
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: in the Dorture chamber, and I gotta see if the

793
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: real j Dove is gonna show up because I think

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Speaker 3: Jay dub you know, Williams is you know, the the

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Speaker 3: glynchpin to whether. Okay, so he's going to be successful,

796
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 3: and I don't think he's getting enough shine or love

797
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 3: for Most Improved Player this year. I don't think he

798
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: would win it, but I think he really should be

799
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: in the conversation about it. So yeah, I would pick

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00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: Nixon Thunder Friday night without a question.

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Speaker 4: By the way, just quickly, Chet is on.

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Speaker 6: He's traveling with the team on this trip, so there's

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00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 6: no there's no updated return, but it seems like he's

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00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 6: going to be back in the mix pretty soon.

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00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Last question, Every team gets to redesign them a logo

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00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: that they wear on their jersey rather than the standard

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00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: Jerry West dribbling one that we all know and love.

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00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: Who would be the Pacers logo? Who would be the

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00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: seventy six ers logo? And what are they doing in

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Speaker 2: the logo?

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00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 3: Reggie Miller? No, No, it's actually it's actually his fade

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00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: away three that he would do when he's on the wing,

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00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: that that would be. That would be the Pacers logo

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00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: and then the Sixers. So so I had I got

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Speaker 3: an argument, and Jack, I think I want to know

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Speaker 3: what your idea is, because there are there are different

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00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: eras and levels of Sixers. Right to me, it is Julius.

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00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: To me, it is Julius without without question, and then

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00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 3: to everybody else it's Alan Iverson. And I would also

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Speaker 3: give you an additional what I think would be a

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Speaker 3: not so thought of tape, but ree cheeks cheeks, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I like it as a player and as a coach.

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00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: As the history and I could see him, you know,

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00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: with his arms crossed, looking out on the gaze of

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Speaker 3: hate towards the Boston Celtics, and I could see that

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Speaker 3: being on the logo for the seventy six.

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Speaker 2: Is all right. So I'm going to give an even.

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Speaker 1: Less thought of take, which would be Ben Simmons under

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00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: the basket against the Hawks, passing the ball off when

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00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: he could have dunked it. And that that is, you know,

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00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: that encapsulates the the process. Still, you know, Sixers fans

833
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: are all different. Some of us are just in it

834
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: for the misery.

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Speaker 3: You don't want the ceo ratless rare? You know double block?

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Speaker 1: Well, Chris, what a pleasure having you on? Miles and

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Speaker 1: Jack got Matt boost e's Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can. It's the name hoopspaces. It's real simple.

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Speaker 3: H O O P S P A c E S.

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Speaker 3: You can find me on x formerly known as Twitter.

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Speaker 3: find me on Blue Sky. Just got done working for Amazon.

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Speaker 3: I'll probably be picking up another gig hopefully soon. But

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Speaker 3: if you find me there, you'll be able to talk

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Speaker 3: to me Monday through Friday at ten am every day

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Speaker 3: and I break down every single game. Sometimes we get

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 2: All right, you can make sure you give us a follow.

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Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien and on Blue

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Speaker 1: Gray on both Jabari where are you at?

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Speaker 6: Jabari Davis NBA on Twitter we still call it debt

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Speaker 1: going to do it for us this week. Sending out

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Speaker 1: up there, and we'll be back next week with another

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Speaker 1: episode of Miles and Jack on Mad Boosties.

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Speaker 3: Bye.