WEBVTT - Shock Collar w/ JJ Pyle 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.960 Of the law and order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.760 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:08.800 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:27.120 These are our stories done done. 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:31.960 Yay, that's messed up. A SVU podcast. We're here. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.200 My name is Lisa, my name is Kara, And every 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.080 week on this show we recap an episode of SVU, 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:40.600 talk about the true crime that it's based on, and 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.960 sometimes we interview a guest, and we do that today, 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.160 but first we chit chat and talk about the world 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.600 at large in our own lives. And yeah, some of 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.080 you say it's your favorite part of the episode, and 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.000 some of you say, let us know when we can 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:55.600 fast forward that part. And I want to let you 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.360 know right now. I'm not going to ever take the 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:00.640 time to do a timestamp to tell you when the episodes, 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:05.000 like fifteen to twenty minutes get over this fast forward. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.000 But I do have a huge, huge news. 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:15.080 Tomorrow, August thirteenth, eight thirteen, I am throwing the first 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.119 pitch at the Chicago White Sox game against the hell 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.360 the Detroit Tigers at one ten. So if you're in, 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.479 if you don't work or you want to call off 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.399 and you're in the area, I'll be there tomorrow. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:28.600 Oh my god. Yeah. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.000 So it's really exciting. I've gone out and practice twice. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.119 And I think people just don't have faith in women 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:38.240 because everyone's like whoa, and I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:39.559 want to do this if I was that bad. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:41.840 But yeah, you know, people do it bad, you'll do 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.800 it bad. Yeah, yeah, I see people. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.920 I think also people get stage fright. Yeah, like I 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.880 would get sports stage fright, like you know, yeah, that's 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.040 at that's that's the thing. But I'll practice beforehand. I 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.640 have my MIT, so I'll like, i'll get loose, I 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:57.960 think before you have your own. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:58.200 Minus. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.160 Yeah, I got a mid so I could practice. I 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.080 don't like half my mid from childhood. I actually do. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.440 But that's a shock where you still have you well 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.400 you know why. It's like I grabbed it from my 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.880 house when I used to play softball in like McCarran 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.240 Park on like a team in Brooklyn when I lived there, 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.120 and then I just kind of kept it and I 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:18.760 still have it. 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:19.119 Oh. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:24.000 So Lenny Marcus, he was really smart. We first practiced 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.040 with a softball so by the time I did the baseball. 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.800 It was so much lighter and faster, So that was 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.200 like cool and how told it? 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:32.880 So yeah, we'll see but. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.760 You yeah, because I've been arrested there, so it's kind 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.240 of like my triumphant circle moment. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:40.560 Oh my god. 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.200 Yeah, it's huge, amazing, and everyone is really excited. It's 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.000 kind of fun to tell people like people get really jazzed. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.880 Yeah, exciting too, that's huge. I love it. And like 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.560 we all know you're a white Sox fan. That's so cool. 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.519 But I am sure, I'll be I am so. I Also, 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.880 this is just this is sports adjacent. But yeah, so 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.720 so I'll obviously be making posts and then like TBT 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.440 posts to my first socks game and that's more. There 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.399 will be a colash. Your hair will be less blonde 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:09.520 this time around. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:16.840 Oh my god, what to read? Speaking of, I started 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:21.440 Project Runway and Ka's in it. Yeah I heard, and 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.720 they call her Ethan and it's weird, weird. Yeah, it's 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.480 all Ethan and she's a bitch, Like she really is 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.800 a bit better than everyone. I think she's gonna win. 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.200 She's probably gonna win. Yeah, I think she's better than everyone. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.360 And La Roach is so mean. It's kind of like 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.600 fantastic and the talent. 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:42.360 Is being added. It's so good. Yeah it is. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.440 I mean, one complaint from a friend was like he's 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.360 not a designer, he's a stylist. So there's just like 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.560 that kind of like that kind of lack of whatever. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:52.280 I don't even know the word. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.800 Sure, but like Nina Garcia was like a magazine editor. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.000 You know, well she's still there, but that's her job, 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:00.720 you know. Then they another editor. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.600 But I'm just saying, like the Zach Po's and Michael 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.240 Core's has been taken over by it because they actually 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:06.480 does Oh I get that. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.880 So it's a little bit different, but I don't care. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.760 He's awesome. Yeah, yeah, he's great. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.880 And he's mean to the other jow not mean, but 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.400 like he just says whatever the fuck he wants is awesome. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.839 Wait, so you're for throwing out the first pitch on 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.080 the thirteenth and then what are you flying back the 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:22.039 morning for our show? 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.880 And truly I'm flying there the twelfth, like I get 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.720 in the twelfth, I throw the thirteenth, and then I 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.600 leave the fourteenth for that's messed up live show in Brooklyn. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:30.960 Oh my gosh. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.680 Well, if you guys haven't bought a ticket yet, and 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.599 you want to get the scoop from Lisa straight from 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.560 her pitch, you gotta come to our show and the house. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.880 Yeah, I'll be in rough shape for sure because the 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:47.040 weekend prior I'm in the woods shooting a short and 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.080 so I'm really like, go go busy. 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:50.919 You're a busy You're a busy bee. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.640 But I think the live show, but regular tasks are 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.120 still what keeps me down. Yeah, I have to pick 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.760 up laundry and I didn't. I forgot to grab the ticket. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.159 I'm like, Jesus, I can't. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:01.640 I can't. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.480 Eight fourteen, we're at the Bell House, seven thirty. We're 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.279 doing a brand new episode we've never done in New York. 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.360 Please come get tickets. Go to that s meassage. I 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:15.280 met a lot for tickets. Town is like in the 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.400 streets people have been like no I know, and people 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.440 are like I get back the next day, Like I 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.720 get it. But like, if you're if you're if you're 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.000 in the environs, come in from Connecticut, come on New Jersey. 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.799 Let's go try state area. But I was going to say, 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.320 how has it been going with your laundry? Speaking of 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.960 your laundry, Visa VI your allergies, because somebody said, you've 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.480 got to find a place that does all allergy free 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:44.039 because tide will like stay on in the machines. See, 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.400 people are so smart. Is there really a place I 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.320 can't I don't know if that exists. I don't know 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.480 if that exists, like a place where they're like hosing 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.160 like like decontaminating the machines in between. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.120 Oh, but I wanted to bring this up. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.680 Okay, first of all, you know I always have to 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.720 have kid corner where I tell some funny story about 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:01.480 my kids or whatever. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:02.120 But I did. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.840 I've been taking my kids on mystery walks because at 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:07.880 home in La Rosie has a camera. She got a 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.080 like a kid camera for her birth or what did 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:11.240 I give it to her for her Christmas? 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:12.119 Her birthday something? 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.560 And so now we go on these spooky walks and 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.120 she takes pictures and she does little videos of herself 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.640 being like, Okay, here's what we found, and it's so funny. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.800 And like we did one in La where we heard 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.800 music coming from a huge party in our neighborhood and 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.080 we just like followed the sound of it and then 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.360 we fat we saw some woman get out of her card. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:33.800 She looked really like she was on her way to 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.720 a party, so we followed her and she was going 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.120 to the party. So we found the party. It was 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.400 Rosie's coverage of it is so funny. So we tried 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.599 to do one here and my parents live in like 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:45.880 I don't know what do you call it, Like a development, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.320 like a bunch of houses that are just like right 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.280 next to each other and look identical, and like everybody 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.680 is not everybody, but I would say most people are 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:56.680 fifty plus. It's not a hot bopin' young development. So 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.880 we're walking around and Rosie's like, is that suspicious? Is 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:02.760 that suspicious? I'm like, nothing suspicious. And then she goes, whoa, mom, 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.760 that's suspicious And it's just a Mercedes sprinter van, the 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.000 kind that the housewives take on try well, thank god 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:12.680 she has instance. I go, this is so funny. I 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.520 go here, she goes, she goes, can I have your phone? 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.240 She takes my phone takes a picture of it. I 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:20.960 was like, many suspicious things have happened in these vans. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.040 Somebody was just telling me that they tried to get 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:24.600 into Real Housewives as Salt Lake City. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.640 And she goes, I just like saw the first episode. 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.240 I tuned into a woman like threw up and pissed 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.040 herself in one of those vans, and I go, yeah, 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.040 Heather had too many espresso martinis. That's not like actually 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.800 normally how she acts. She was like, it just felt 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:41.119 like we needed to get her help. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.400 Yeah, you know people like this, this this happens like 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.080 over He's like, can we change it? The fightings a 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.520 little much? Grow up, grow up. I guess you grew 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.160 up in too quiet of a home. Like, truly, it 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.760 does not affect me at all. These people ere that upset. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:59.800 A fifty year old's puking, Get a grip, Get a grip. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.840 Well, she's in recovery too, so she was like should 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.080 She was like shit, but she goes, I love watching 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.880 the alcoholics on the Housewives, but this would seem too far. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:09.920 And I was like, that's actually the worst she's ever gotten. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:11.840 And honestly, I don't think that people know how to 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.160 handle espresso martiniz a. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:13.760 Lot of the time. 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.320 Well did you see that Michelle Obama had Matt and 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.320 Bowen on with her brother and that she watched like 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:22.480 Next Gen NYC? 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.520 Yeah, she called them the next Gen babies. She was like, 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:28.520 oh my god. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:29.080 Cool. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.160 No, She's like she's like, the culture is everything, and 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.160 she's not wrong. You got to know what people are 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.720 talking about, what's going on. And yeah, Michelle Obama one 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:47.040 of us, a Bravo head, one of of us. Also, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.679 we've been getting a lot of messages about this. But 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.920 also I saw it in my feed, which I'm sure 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:53.120 you saw it in Trouble. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.680 No, the Annabelle Doll. I can't. 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.480 I can't fuck the hat rife, fuck you forgetting the 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.200 Annibal so you I can't. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.480 I can't. We can't talk about Okay, we can't. Okay, 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.680 I don't want Lisa to explode. But if you don't 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.400 know what we're talking about, you well maybe, I mean 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.880 you better watch out. Like it's not fun and I 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.160 don't want the doll. Maybe it's good he has the doll. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.360 I mean it's good for people that. Yeah, it's like 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:19.320 it's good for people. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.880 That don't like his comedy because he's gonna get haunted. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:27.760 I mean why, I don't understand it. It's like so crazy, 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.040 like I don't know he bought like a bunch of you. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.680 Don't think ROS would buy the Annabelle Doll. I mean, 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.240 we know that's on brand. We don't even know the 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.839 brand though. He's like a twenty eight year old worth 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.920 millions of doll like, we don't know him. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:45.520 Also, he bought a haunted house in Connecticut and then 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.160 bought the museum with the Annabel doll. I guess it's 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.240 that's the whole thing. I don't understand. Maybe that's why 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.280 I don't have money. It's on realtor dot com. Listen. 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.599 I don't think ros would actually buy it because I 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.120 think Rose I wouldn't either respect. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.040 The power of actual, really haunted things. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.199 I wouldn't even be if I heard the Annabell doll 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.040 was one way, I would go the other way. I 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.959 would not be dilly dallying next to the Annabel doll. 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.600 But I'm just mad that he has it. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.000 I'm like, where is this in Connecticut? 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:15.560 I don't know. 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:16.319 I just. 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:19.600 Why why does he get everything? 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.520 I mean, also, okay, beckon sale and you get the 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:24.280 Annabell doll. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.960 It's just like, not okay, I'm in Connecticut right now. 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:29.600 I don't even like knowing that Annabel and I are 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.040 in the same state. You know, yeah, watch out, you 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:32.959 don't know what's gonna know. 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:37.000 Also, I mean, obviously we're in a fascist nightmare, but 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:41.040 like I just can't believe the ballroom, Like I really can't. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:43.920 Did you see the designs of what this two hundred 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:45.360 million dollar ballroom is gonna look like? 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.480 I haven't seen the designs, but I was just looking 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.560 at like instagrams this morning of people that are like 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.679 I have done massive renovations of huge ballrooms bigger than 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.000 this one, and they were two million dollars. 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:58.320 I could see it maybe being. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.960 Fifty million dollars because it's like historic land, but two 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:05.680 hundred million dollars feels insane. But I will say it's 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:07.160 it's donated money. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.960 It's not taxpayer money, so. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.480 I don't It's like if the fucking idiot like Maga 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.960 people want to give money for a ballroom, then like 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:17.000 I guess, have at it. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:17.800 I'm sure, Oh it's that. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.760 I thought it was more like the government, like being 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:23.360 like paid off by. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.000 I was told it was through donations. That's what I was. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.800 That was what I read. I can't find the photo, 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:29.760 but it's just gonna be. It's gonna be bigger than 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.760 the White House attached to the side, like the picture 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.400 I saw just looked crazy. It's just like worldview, it's 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:39.800 this I just don't get out there, like where this 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.959 is happening, Like, oh, someone there was a bad report 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.320 and you fired someone and everyone's like that's just it. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.120 Like I just can't believe we're here where these things 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:53.200 are just happening NonStop and that's just that, I know. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.320 I guess that's what's hard. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.000 And like, also back to the house, but Glaine is going 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.760 to minimum security. They liter rely with Jen Shaw and 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:07.120 Elizabeth Holmes and it's like, but the question, the question remains, 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.160 if there's no Epstein list, then what is Glaine in 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:15.880 jail for trafficking people to nobody? Like what do we 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.320 you know, part of me thinks they're just trying to 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.240 like lower her shit to eventually give her a deal 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.600 and make her like kind of disappear or whatever. 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:25.320 Onto. I don't think they can kill her. 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:30.760 Oh, yesterday, someone on stage said that they believe that 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:32.679 where did I was this on TV? 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:34.720 Whatever? That Epstein's alive. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:40.000 They fully believe he's just like on an island, whoa tupac? Okay, Okay, 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.960 they're saying, I don't know, I have no idea. I 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.480 just like I can't believe it. The pedophilic. 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:48.240 I just. 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:52.640 I mean, it was their number one issue and now 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.000 they're done with it. They're over, it's done. It's just 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.520 the list is just Bill Clinton's name twenty times and 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.800 he made the list and no one else is on it. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.920 And that's that. That's that on that, that's that on that. 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.400 It's fucking so crazy. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.400 But wait, I have you know I play all my 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:12.880 little movie and TV games. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.559 Yes, and Maloney was in one. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.760 I don't know if this is Cinematrix or movie Grids, 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.400 so I apologize, but Maloney was in it, and I 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:25.000 did pretty good. So the category for one word show 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.960 I got an eleven percent. Three or more words I 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.959 got nine point nine percent, and a pilot release from 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.840 nineteen ninety to twenty twenty five I got five percent. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:41.319 Ooh, do you want to guess all Maloney stuff? It's yeah, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:45.319 it's Maloney and that love of answer. Yeah, one word project, 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.440 like one word TV show that he was in, that 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.320 show Happy he did on sci Fi. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.360 Yeah, yeah, that's what that would have been my guess. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.080 I think that was the number one guess I put 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.880 veep Oh deep was an eleven percent answer. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.480 That's good. Okay, so he didn't star in that. He's 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:02.520 just like in a few ups. 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:03.199 That's smart. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:07.040 Yeah, three or more words? What how I mean what 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:08.839 hot American Summer? I feel like is probably that's not 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.760 a TV show? Oh not, it has to me TV. 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:16.880 Oh yay, the TV grid? 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.760 Baby? What other TV shows has Maloney been in? Three 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.320 or more words? Okay? 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.920 I only nine point nine percent of people answered with 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.240 I give it Law and Order Organized crime? Yeah, oh really, 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:31.840 yeah I did it. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.520 And then the one that got five percent for pilot 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.360 release between ninety and twenty twenty five. 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:42.280 I mean, is that SV no? What's another? Oh? 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:46.040 Oz no, But that's that's actually that was the number 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.200 one one word title show, was oz Okay, now that 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:50.600 I remember, I'm remembering, Yeah. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.520 That makes sense. That's more popular than that sci fi 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.280 thing he did. What what is it? What's this last 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:57.040 True Blood? 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.640 Fuck? I always forget he's in True Blood. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.480 By the time he joined True Blood, I thought True 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:07.360 Blood had gone fucking off the rails. I'm just watching, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.440 but I was, wait, or what happened with you watching that? 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:10.160 Were you trying? 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:11.320 I did? 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:13.880 The second season was so bad. I just didn't want 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:14.960 anything to do with it. I couldn't. 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.880 It really falls off comes back a little bit. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:23.160 But yeah, I'm so into Dexter Like the dexter mania 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:23.920 has hit me. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.240 In such a huge way. 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.960 I'm talking about it all the time. I'm thinking about 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.000 it all the time. Another TV thing. So you know 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.200 the judge that we talk about, Ada Turturo, who was 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:34.080 from The Sopranos. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:38.320 You know that's John Taturo's brother sister. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.760 I didn't know that. Have we talked about that? Oh yeah, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.200 I think so. I don't think we've done. They look exactly, 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.120 they have the same face. I feel like I maybe 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:49.480 what a family. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.920 Oh yeah, So I will admit to everyone I did 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.280 do whippets again, and I'm truly I. 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.760 Would be addicted. Where is this coming from? 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:59.760 I want to be addicted to whip It's so bad, 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.360 But I know it would take over my life. So 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.600 I'm not buying any of the equipment. But no, you 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.080 love me special occage. I think I know I was. 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.080 I was hanging out with friends and every time I 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.240 heard the little gas go off, I was like a 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.040 dog with a salami whip my hand. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:19.040 It was Pavlovian. I was like, yeah, ran with my 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:24.440 little balloon. Oh wait, she's his cousin. Their cousins. But then, 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.120 what's there's another Turturo? Casey, will you look up? 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.880 There's another actor Turturo who's in a bunch of TV. 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:35.080 Is that a brother, Nicholas Turturo one hundred and nine credits? 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.960 Okay, he's working, he's working. Oh, oh my god, oh 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:43.600 my god. Yes, he's Frank Bucci. He's the freaking guy 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.400 that's the detective. And his daughter like becomes a sex 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.800 worker or whatever, runs away, and then he holds Rollin's hostage. Yeah, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.080 like kidnaps her from her therapist. Fuck, that's say now 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:55.520 that I never would have known. I don't think they 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.280 looked that much alike. All right, they looked that much alike. 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.640 Yeah, That's how I got into all this is. I 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:03.760 caught a clip of him talking about his brother and 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:04.920 how much he loves his brother. 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.480 Oh, you know, a big family. 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.200 And then he's got another one, Diego Tutruro is his son, 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:16.120 and now he's acting alright, right he says son, Yeah, Ariano. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.320 I mean every single person on the Wikipedia is blue. 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.800 So they're they're they're they're all working, and they're all 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:30.439 doing something. The shop family. Yeah, who is Okay, oh 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.760 wait now I'm on not Oh wait, now we're just 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.800 IMDb trolling. Yeah, now we got to just start the episode. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.320 I think, Yeah, yeah, we got a stay. Yeah we 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.360 got you know, we get sucked into an IMDb hole. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:45.960 But yeah, whippets, IMDb, that's all I need, a little 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:46.359 deck ster. 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.760 It is a good drug. Sorry, but I won't I 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:50.560 won't get into it. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.080 But the funny thing is, so you know, it's like 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.240 a dessert metal thing and you put the nitrous little 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.119 things on it and then you put a balloon on it. 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.600 And there was there was a chef there who had 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.600 never done whippets, but then he knew how to use 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:03.359 this contraption. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.000 So I went, oh wow, look at you a quick learner. 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.359 He goes, I make Holland days with this, and I 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.160 forgot that It's like a thing people can for real. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.560 Yeah, I wow. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.480 I've never done like these pro ones that you're talking about. 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.399 I've literally just like been at a bar where like 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.719 at four in the morning when the bar is closed 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.040 and the bar owner is like, suck on this and 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.600 it's like a ready wet bottle, and I've been like, like, 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.640 I've not done the real official whippets I've just done. 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.080 Maybe we'll do it at Bellhouse maybe. 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.080 Wait, how long does it last? It's like, is it 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.480 like is it like thirty seconds? Thirty seconds? Okay, yeah, 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:42.920 that's why you do it all night. Canis Terra after 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:49.400 Canis Drafter Canister. I've only done it three times. I've 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:53.000 only done it three times, but twice in the last month. Okay, 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:54.200 so the habit is forming. 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.720 No, I'm like, I could buy whippets from the smoke 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.000 shop near near the comedy cellar, like the whippets are 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.240 out like it's truly disciplined. It's truly disciplined that I'm 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.000 not full like and worry. I think my friends would know. 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:08.320 I just know I would get addicted. 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:09.320 I just know. That's why I don't do that. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.400 I've only done zan Next like a few, like a handful, 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.000 not even five times, because I know I would love 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:14.680 it so much. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.919 Yeah, it would take over my life. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:19.639 Yeah, and we don't know, and we don't know what 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.560 the prolonged effect. I don't think there's like anybody like 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.360 that's crushing in life. That's like doing whip it's every 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:26.800 ten five minutes, right. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.960 Well, the person I'm doing it with is definitely reallyful millionaire. 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:31.960 Yes, but and he's doing it constantly. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:38.520 Yeah that's yeah shit, Okay, never mind, I stand corrected. No, 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.120 I would say one of the more successful people that 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.359 I know for sure, damn Yeah. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:49.120 Okay, whipp it's king with the King of whips. 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.960 Yeah, guys, send us DMS. Guess who you think is 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:56.440 my whippe king? All right, we're starting case he's rubbing, 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.760 let's start. This episode is truly fucked up. Get right, 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:07.960 it's the worst. Hello, I mean we already did that. Okay, 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.320 well this is that episode. So we're doing Shock Collar 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.720 season twenty six, episode twenty so just from May of 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.520 twenty twenty five. And I will say, bra, I watch 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.600 Peacock for Bravo every day of my life. 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:23.120 Love it. 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.639 I don't like watching SVU on Peacock. It makes me 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.000 feel weird and uncomfortable, but since it's the new episode, 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:29.439 I have to. 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:34.120 But I don't love it. And the rewind ten seconds. 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.800 Was delayed for a while, like it was like an 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:40.000 annoying experience app wise, Yeah, but I'm such a Peacock 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.520 lover and I don't know why my brain breaks and 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.040 why I crave Hulu for sv Yeah, it's different when 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.719 you've been watching like Miami and then Yeah, I don't know, 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.840 but I had to watch this on NBC dot Com 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:53.680 with commercials and that was also painful. 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.720 So please release season twenty six from its hostage situation 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.679 and put it on Hulu. Thank you. Who lo's like 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:02.680 not getting a deal for the new seasons? 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.080 Yeah, exactly, but it'll be on next year because like 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.040 twenty five is on it. Yeah, you just get it 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:11.359 a year later, which I get. I get NBC because 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.399 it is such a number one show. It's always in 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:14.399 Peacock's top. 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:15.000 Yeah. 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.760 Yeah, I'm excited to talk about this episode. We've never 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.520 talked about an episode so recent, and this one's got 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.120 it's got me thinking a lot of thoughts. 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.480 Okay, yeah, I remember seeing it live and I think 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:28.359 I talked about an. 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:29.760 Intro going what the fuck is up with you? 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:31.840 You said you saw it before I saw it, and 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:33.160 you were like, what the fucking shot? 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:34.920 Collar want? Ago? I'm not there yet? And then I 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:37.920 watched it was like, what the hell? So here we are? 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.200 Okay, A girl and a beanie's in a car saying 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:43.960 she wants to stay home because she's sick, but mom 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:47.720 has to work, okay, And then after she's doing work stuff, 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.560 they're gonna swing by the doctor's office and the mom's 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.639 being fun. She's playing cute guessing games, and then she 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.439 stops the car and we see that she's delivering food. 0:21:57.920 --> 0:21:59.879 And the mom puts the heat on in the car 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.000 for her child, and then she leaves the red Nissan 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:04.760 to deliver food. 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.120 She's waving back at her child and. 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.359 The guy's not answering the door fast enough and the 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:14.040 music's getting loud, so it's not good what's happening. But 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.200 it's this guy's breakfast and it's not from an app. 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:19.280 It's like directly from a Baudet guy. I think it's 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.719 like very old school New York vibes because he tips, 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.560 he went, he goes to get the tip, and they 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:28.160 just seem very familiar, like this isn't the first time 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:31.119 she's delivered to this guy. But while he's going to 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:34.879 go get the tip, then he comes back and he 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.440 wants to check the bag, like he's making this experience 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:41.640 as long and annoying as possible. But then we see 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.720 the cars being driven off fast and the dude's like, 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:48.640 whoa is that your car, no urgency, no heightened vibe, 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:53.080 like I hate his high so fucking much. And then 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:56.040 she flips out and starts running down the block, obviously 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:58.960 screaming for her daughter, Hayley, and she's so freaked out 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:00.960 and just breathing deep and like, what the fuck do 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.920 I do? And immediately we cut to Benson and Rowins 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:09.040 having the opposite morning cute walk to school with their kids, 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:13.479 just regular moms. Rollins thanks Benson for getting the girls 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.880 into this like program, and Benson goes, I mean they're gifted, 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:21.919 so you know, just like their mother. That's cute, and 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.360 Rollins and the kids walk ahead, and Benson gets a call. 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:28.040 Uh oh so, and then Rollins of course, I mean 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:30.200 you should. If you want to do a drinking game, 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.159 I would do it every time. She she needs to 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:36.480 call intelligence. Anytime Rollins is contacting the Intelligence Bureau, you 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:37.400 will be blacked out. 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:42.560 He really is swinging it around. Also, what's so, what's 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:46.080 Rollins Benson fanfic? There must be people out there that 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:47.439 want those two to get together? 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:53.199 Oh of course, yeah, for sure, for sure, Benln's rawlson, okay, 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:57.040 or maybe it's a threesomething two with creesy I mean, 0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:58.760 I don't know whatever. 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:02.840 So Rollins is gonna lock in the Intelligence Bureau because 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:06.000 the new chief of D's is letting Benson know that 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.840 a car is stolen on West eighty eighth Street and 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.040 it's an eight year old in the backseat. So fuck now, 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:15.119 Noah's like, is everything okay? And they lie to the children. 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:16.920 They say, yeah, it's just work, but like, he's not 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.479 a fool. He knows what your job is. Like, clearly 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.359 someone's been snatched or attacked, you know what I mean. Yeah, 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.919 what's a casual work day. It's not about Finn's surprise 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:26.040 birthday party. 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:25.960 You know. 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.680 So a child's been taken. They separate when they're on 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:33.520 the scene. Chief Browne, okay, he has a mustache and 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.240 is not the worst man she's worked with. 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:38.760 Yet I don't really know about this guy. 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.399 So the child's name is Haley Green, the mom is 0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:45.120 Katie Green, and the car is running. The door was unlocked, 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.399 and some UNI in the back's like, what the fuck? 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.200 This is New York. You're just waiting to get your 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:50.919 kid taken? 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:55.200 And Benson goes, okay, relax, And so now we get 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.400 our season twenty six girls approaching, and I'll finally learn 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:01.960 their names, Detective Katie's Silva and Captain Renee Curry. 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.000 Wait, so Silva their just really quick. I don't know 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.320 if you saw this. I came up on my Instagram, 0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:12.280 but Silva is out along with Otavio after this season, 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:16.040 right along with Oh my god, why am I blanking? 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:16.879 Thank you? 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:20.080 So look at listen what I wrote next Velasko And 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.240 listen and this is what I write. Look at the notes. 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:24.800 Can I be honest? I have to look up his 0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:27.439 name every single time. I can never remember it. But 0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:32.479 I love Rolins Beanie so much. Yes, okay, so totally. 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:36.000 I cannot remember Velasco and even like Joe. When they're like, 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:37.840 let's ask Joe to do I'm like, who's Joe? And 0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.160 the I'm like, oh, it's Velasko's first name. He's been 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.560 on for multiple seasons, but this girl was only on 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:46.120 for this one season. The actress is Juliana Aiden Martinez. 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:49.399 She's actually going to FBI, so they just like smoked her. 0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.400 She's gonna be a regular on FBI. Okay, cool, which 0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:54.120 are the best. I wanted to give her more chance 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.760 on this show too, but they're not giving anybody chances. No, 0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:00.280 I mean, we'll see if Curry. Curry's probably staying it 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:04.359 in making any announcements, which is huge. But yeah, for 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.280 some now I will remember of Alasko because of this convo. 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:09.400 Thank god, you know, he's leaving so right on time. 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.760 But I, for the life of me, yeah, we can't 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:18.200 remember it. Yeah, so we got to get to work. 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:21.919 You know, are there witnesses full mobilization? And now we 0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:23.320 also got to talk to the guy who got the 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.320 food delivered. So Benson and Rollins go to the mom. 0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:30.919 She's shaken up obviously. She's like, maybe they just wanted 0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.000 the car. They didn't know Haley was there. Maybe they'll 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:36.560 push her out, and Benson's like, sure, but we're actually 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:42.479 SVU so no, like your kids taken. And this actress 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.119 who plays the mom is like really pretty and pulling 0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:48.919 off the like hard working single mother, sick kid, like 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.920 you know, and she's in denial. She's gonna be blaming herself. 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:56.480 She's great, Leah was zawatam. So Benson goes, Okay, we're 0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.760 taking you to the station and we're gonna focus all 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.520 your energy on what you remember exactly what happened. And 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:04.880 but she's still stuck at the idea that Haley's gonna 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:06.800 come home. She's like, but what if she comes back 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.000 here or home? Like, what are we gonna do? And 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.679 Rollins is like, very coddling, very nice. I feel like 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.080 her becoming a professor childer out. Maybe she's reading more books. 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:20.080 She's not as quick to go your dumb whore, you 0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.440 know what I mean. So I'm really proud of Rollins here, 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:26.480 and she goes, yeah, we're gonna have you know, we'll 0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:29.679 keep you covered. There'll be cops everywhere, like if she 0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.639 comes back here, but let's get you to the office. 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.320 So we go right into the credits, and I love 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.520 seeing Kevin Kine in the cast credits, Like I get 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:39.560 excited every time. 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.320 I don't know this man. I mean, he's done the pod. 0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:43.879 I followed him because he was on inciting me Schumer 0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.760 all the time, and so like he's this face. I know, 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.800 I don't know why I get such immense pride and happiness. 0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:52.639 For him like this. 0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.320 I also think it's because he's like kind of comedy 0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.000 and I keep and I keep hoping he's gonna bring 0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.520 a little bit of like the bellser type levity back 0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:00.000 to the show. 0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:01.800 Oh yeah, I think that's kind of why. 0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:05.800 Yeah, it's really Yeah, Bruno has been a great I 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.880 also think it's cool that he plays assholes all the time, 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:10.800 but he's really cool and nice in real life. And 0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.840 like everybody I know that has worked with him is like, 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:16.800 he's great. You know, isn't that usually the classic? Yeah, 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:19.399 he just has a face. He has a face of 0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.239 a douchebag sometimes not not always, but you know, he 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.520 can really lean into it. 0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:26.560 App absolutely. 0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.199 Yeah, we're fans and if we haven't listened to the 0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.520 episode with him, maybe you'll be obsessed with him too. Well, 0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:34.399 because we also I think talked to him when he 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.400 was like, I hope I'm a series regular that yeah, 0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.040 because he's been he's played five different characters on this 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:41.680 show as well. 0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:43.000 We were like, we want you to be regular. 0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:45.080 He's like, yeah, your lips to God's you know, like 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:49.160 he was, Wait, we were manifesting way, that was all 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.120 our doing first Manifested, that's our acergy. 0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:56.800 We're witches, so we're not okay, we're not friend Oh 0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.160 my god, I talked to this comedian. 0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.760 Really funny, isn't TV show too? Mike Roland? Do you 0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:02.080 know Mike? 0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.600 He's on Animal control. I really enjoy him. He's from Atlanta. 0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.400 But he said a long long time ago. You know, 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.360 we obviously all know the saying like don't meet your heroes. 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:12.600 Uh huh. 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.080 So he said, when he was a younger comic, he 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:18.160 saw Hannibal Burahs and he wanted to go talk to him, 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.040 and Hannibal was a hero of his. But he flubbed 0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.440 it and went up to Hannibal and just said, you know, 0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:28.160 I never wanted to meet you, and Hannibal just went okay, 0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:33.240 and then Mike walked away. 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:34.960 I just love that so much. 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.280 That's really funny, like don't meet your heroes, but also 0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:40.720 don't say you don't want to meet your heroes. 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:41.240 That's funny. 0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.920 Okay, I'm back, I'm back. Sorry guys. All right, So Kevin, 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:46.760 oh my god, we're just back from the credits. 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:47.120 Okay. 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.800 So we're talking to a woman with a small dog 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.720 and she's wearing a winter hat that's like very high 0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.440 on her head. She kind of looks like a gnome 0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.160 and she goes, well, I try to talk to the 0:29:56.200 --> 0:30:00.680 mother earlier she was hysterical, understandably, so we like this woman. 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.320 The girl gets it, and then Kurry and Silver getting 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.000 all the scoop and this woman did see a white 0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:07.720 van following the woman's car. 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:09.760 Oh no, I. 0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:11.440 Feel if I was a pervert, i'd get a different 0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.360 colored van. At this point, you can't have a white one. 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.680 Get an suv at this point a van, and in general, 0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:21.280 you just can't. I can't really have a van. Yeah, 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.080 but it's like with an suv. 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.120 Oh yeah, you can build a shield because I'm like, 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:32.160 if we're trapping someone you don't want, yeah, yeah. 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:31.280 We can trap. We can trick it out, We'll figure 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:32.640 it out. 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:36.520 Okay, now the guy I was actually thinking about this 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:38.720 in bed with the episode Stranger. I'm like, we learn 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.600 how many we learn life saving tips from SVU? I 0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.160 wonder if criminals learn how to be better criminals. Though 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:45.680 I was wondering that because. 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.680 I wish I had a more normal life. 0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.880 But in my head, I was thinking in the episode Stranger, 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.320 when he locked, when he would go into where he 0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.520 held his daughter, he had the paddle like the lock 0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:58.840 was with a code, and only he had the code. 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:00.200 So she killed him in the room. 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:02.800 She wouldn't be able to get out right, And I go, 0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.840 I hope no criminal watch this episode. 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:06.960 I know, and was like this is that. 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.640 Well, yeah, I'm constantly saying on this podcast, why would 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:10.880 you do that? 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:11.640 Why wouldn't you do this? 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.360 So I think I'm hoping no criminals are getting any 0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:17.400 ideas from this podcast because I'm always finding the loopholes 0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.840 of these criminals, and I think I should probably stop 0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.600 doing that, all right, Yeah. 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.400 Okay, So we find out the guy gets food from 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.120 her twice a week and it's directly from the diner 0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:29.520 supporting have you ever. 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:30.480 Heard of anything like that? 0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.520 Have you ever heard of somebody getting the same person 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.920 to deliver their food twice a week for like weeks 0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:35.400 on end. 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:37.520 It's That's why I said it was old school. It's 0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.360 like because I remember the show Louis. Remember he would 0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.200 call down, like first season he called down to the 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:43.800 bodega and. 0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:44.760 Would put corner in. 0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.920 And so I think, if you're ordering directly from the 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:51.440 bodega or the diner, they have their own in house people. 0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.120 So that makes sense. But it's very rare, I think, 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.720 with all the apps and ever to be driving your 0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.920 car to do it. Yeah yeah, yeah, because it is bicycles. 0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.120 But I feel if like this diner's been around a 0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.160 long time, he inherited this like I can imagine just 0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.000 being like that, or like I sometimes order sushi from 0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.760 a place close by and my Apple will say delivery 0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:17.680 from the restaurant and it won't have an update on 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:18.840 their tracking or anything. 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.520 Oh, because they're doing it. Got it. 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.959 That was a long answer. But I think it's old school. 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.640 And also if like the restaurant chooses to do it 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:31.280 instead of using outside people, So I do think it's possible. 0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:33.120 It's not like part of our culture. 0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.040 Yeah, I was like, is this like his food concierge, 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.560 Like it's like confusing, but okay, only one of the 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.240 holes I'll be able finding in this episode. 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:41.640 Keep going. 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.840 Oh yeah, I keep going, And then he goes, I 0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:46.840 had no idea, you know, the daughter was in there, 0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:48.480 she even had a daughter, And if I knew, I 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.560 wouldn't have made her wait that long to get the tip. 0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.120 But he is being helpful and he's down to give 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.840 over his ring cam footage. In the office, she's explaining 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.360 herself to Benson and Rollins she can't afford child's care. 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:01.640 They're like, girl, you're not blaming you. You do not 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.840 have to blame yourself. But then immediately Rollins asks, well, 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.120 did you have to leave the car running and the 0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.920 door's unlocked, and it's like, well, you're blaming her, yeah, 0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.160 but she goes listen, it's a nice neighborhood. I wanted 0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.120 to keep the heat on and I was twenty feet away. 0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.040 So Benson cuts in with two options. This is either 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:22.400 a crime of opportunity or you're being targeted for your daughter. 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.280 And they start brainstorming, like who could it be if 0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.080 it is a target thing, So they're like, baby daddy? 0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:29.160 Could it be a baby daddy? 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:33.000 And she goes Dylan And you know, Hayley only spends 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.960 a week and a month at his place. This guy Dylan, 0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.000 he's a musician, he's at gigs all the time. 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:39.480 But there's no custody to disputes. 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.000 And she's truly shocked, like we've actually never seen this 0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.840 calm of a relationship with a baby daddy X before 0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:46.480 I would say right where she goes? 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.200 No, no, no, he would never. She calls me he doesn't 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.440 want her. He takes her once a one weekend a month, 0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.440 Like he doesn't want Like, you know that would be weird. 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.640 Yeah, but she like doesn't seem bothered by it, we 0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.960 find out later. So I'm curious if you thought the 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.880 same thing I did. But they call him on speaker, 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.440 goes straight to voicemail. She leaves a voicemail to call 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.959 her back, and they keep asking leading questions, but she's 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.680 really not suspicious of him. And so now it's group 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.359 project time in the Center Squad and they still haven't 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:20.480 been able to reach the father Shady. No sign of 0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:24.719 Katie's car either, and nothing from intelligence. But Curry does 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:29.520 have something. Sorry, I just thought about my phone again 0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:31.799 and how much it knows me. And it was a 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.759 photo of a seagull and it was covered in curry, 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.399 like some curry exploded on the seagull. And they thought 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.000 it was like some sick seagull, but it was just 0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:40.480 covered in curry. 0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:44.399 Iwa washed. I hope it was AI. Oh my god. 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.359 So ring cam footage and we have an image of 0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:52.359 the driver. It looks like a woman that's hiding her 0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.960 face and she's waving to Katie and then she gets 0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:57.960 into the car and just zooms off. She's wearing a 0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:59.880 baseball cap. I don't think this is her first time 0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.160 doing like she's prepped. She's prepped to be hid and 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:05.120 then like committing a crime. So but we still have 0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.640 to figure out if the white van is connected or separate. 0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.279 So now we show Katie the footage of like do 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.480 you know this woman? And she's like, I know. You 0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.279 think I'm a bad mother, but there's nobody in my 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:17.960 daughter's life that I do not know about. And Benson goes, no, 0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.960 you're misunderstanding me. And in this moment, it's a knock knock, 0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.759 and we get you know, the girls in Velasko and 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:28.440 they have news. The car was found near an overpass 0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:32.800 on Riverside Drive. There's ominous music, it's burnt. It's burnt. 0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:36.000 The sanitation guy called it. In Benson's like, okay, so 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:37.960 the people who set this car and fired didn't just 0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.840 walk away. We need all the security footage, and so 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.719 now we have to pop the trunk and hopefully there's 0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.600 nobody and we're in the clear. There's no crispbody in there, 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.600 so whoever took the car knows the cops are looking 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:48.960 for them. 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.720 So the question is what did they do with Haley. 0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.480 We're back in the office and it's like a lot 0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.319 of speedy it's speedy walking and talking like there's a 0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:00.799 lot to do because they have nothing, you know. So 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.759 the forends of Karage is being checked out, Terry is 0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:07.880 still working. They're like they're nowhere, and Silva's just standing 0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.360 at the office and Benson is like, what would you 0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.480 just speak and she goes, okay, well, I just think 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.400 it's fucked. We haven't been able to reach the father. 0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.800 You know, nothing from the UNI, outside is building or anywhere. 0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.560 And Benson goes, okay, go knock on the neighbor's doors 0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.480 and get information. And Benson's looking at the little girl's 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:31.399 photo like fuck, this sucks. So now we're in We're 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.279 in a hip part of Brooklyn. I would say this 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.520 girl's cute. I kind of have a crush on her 0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:39.839 messy curly bun and they're talking like whatever, she's a hip, 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:45.280 cool Brooklyn girl. There's paint every like canvases everywhere, and 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.399 she's shocked to hear his daughter's gone. She hasn't talked 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.480 to him in a while though. I bet they're kind 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.520 of friends that like once in a while will smoke weed. 0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:56.440 Maybe they fucked like they're just like artsy, he's musician 0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:57.000 at her. 0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:00.279 What did you get about their vibe? Do you think 0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:00.960 they were dating? 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.240 Like, did you like I was just like I wonder 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.319 because they really knew each other, but not neighborly, like 0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.160 did they say hot like a part of yeah, like 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:09.719 I bet they've done drugs or. 0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:13.360 Yeah, or like neighborly hook up benefits sort of the situation. 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.880 Yeah, yeah, I got I can see that. Yeah. 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.560 But the last time she saw him was yesterday morning, 0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:23.680 and she did see the band getting into a white van, 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.640 but she and I don't get the vibe she's covering 0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:31.200 for him or anything like. So, but this sucks. So 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.480 the white van, the baby daddy, we can't find him. 0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:35.920 So now Kurry and Velaska, they got the pole cam 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:39.799 footage and the people from the Nissan they all go 0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:41.680 into the white van. So now there's a man, this 0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.040 woman and Haley and they all go into the white van. 0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.720 So it is connected to the crime. And we see, 0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.840 like in the cam footage the car burning in the background. 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:51.360 And I love attention to detail. 0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.840 So they did find a bottle of nail polish remover 0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:58.000 where at like the garage, and it's like, so everything 0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:02.160 burnt but the nail polish bottle, Okay, but they're gonna 0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:04.040 see if they can get some prints on the bottle. 0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.040 So now we're back with the mom, Benson and Rollins, 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.160 and they're showing the video of people going into the 0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.160 white van. She does not know these people. But also, 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.319 where is baby daddy? What the fuck? So let's call 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.719 him again again voicemail again leaving a message. So now 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.640 Benson and Rollins are in the break room and guess what. 0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:25.440 Intelligence got nothing, but they got the federal government on 0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:27.920 it as well, and so it's kind of weird with 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:29.920 the federal government, like you want them to have information, 0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:31.279 but you don't want her to be on the World 0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.439 Wide Web in like any fucked up way. 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:34.520 So it's tough. 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.000 So Curry runs in to interrupt him and goes, hey, 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.520 the dad just showed up. He was at a recording session, 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.920 so the cops on his block brought him in. He's like, 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.280 what is happening. I don't get what's happening. The music 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.359 is heightening and the women are slowly walking towards him 0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:52.440 asking questions. But he was there all night at this 0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.719 recording session is for a weight loss drug. I feel 0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.800 like this is a nod to ozembic. It is season 0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.400 twenty six, you know, very current current. 0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.520 I really don't know if there's an all night session 0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:09.240 for writing a pharmaceutical jingle that will not allow phones 0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:13.560 like that just feels yeah, there must be a union, right, yeah, Okay, 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.880 they got to take a nap, but and the band 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.280 all got in a van to travel together to the 0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:21.759 recording session to do. 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.400 The ozembic com It's. 0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:30.320 Whatever, keep going so many weird details in this episode. 0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.920 He says he got the messages when he left the studio, 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:35.440 but when he tried to call her back, it went 0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:39.080 straight to voicemail, which does seem weird, Like they would have. 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.320 Lent her a phone charger at the police station. 0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.680 I think, like I don't, or maybe she went home, 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.120 but that that just seems that's I guess if we're 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.440 like digging with their holes, I'll find that one. 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.480 So, mister Reid, do you know where your daughter is? 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:57.960 Benson finally asks him she is missing, and he starts 0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.359 freaking out. He's having a hard time breathing. I don't 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:02.680 think he did it, and Benson is trying to get 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.560 info from him, like who would take her? 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:05.799 Do you know any pedophiles? 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.759 And he's like, listen, I'm not a great dad, but 0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:10.719 I would never hang out with someone that would hurt 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:15.160 Haley or take her and the alibi is confirmed. He 0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.360 was at an all night recording session. The sun is 0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:22.880 out and Creasy's at the office. Hello, and we find 0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:26.800 out that this baby daddy's a secret trust fund kid. 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.920 And I think that's why the custody's so chill, But 0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.640 why is them? No, Actually, I take it back, so 0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:35.360 he's seecret trust fund. In my head, I'm like, I 0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.160 think the custody's fine, and she doesn't care that they're 0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:39.600 not hanging out because he gives her money because he's wealthy. 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.080 But now I'm like, wait, she's poor and can't afford childcare. Ann, 0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:44.120 he's a trust fund kid. 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.800 Annie doesn't take care of the Is he not paying 0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:48.560 his child support? Do we have to stick that girl 0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.719 from Instagram on him? That my child support bustie? Like, 0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.560 you know, I was like, not a trust fund kid 0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.600 in a pharmaceutical band not paying for his kid? 0:40:59.200 --> 0:40:59.400 You know? 0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.600 Yeah, Damn your kid is sick and you can't help 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:05.719 pay for a babysitterer. 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.759 Yeah, but that's how trust fund kids are, you know. 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.640 It's like, well, I only get this much a month, 0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:11.960 so I got to really be cheap. 0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.479 Yeah, we got to put it on my credit card. 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:16.200 My parents pay that. 0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:18.799 Oh my god, I do you remember? I think I 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:19.480 told a story. 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:21.040 I know I told it on the podcast, and I 0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.120 told you how there's someone that we know in LA 0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:27.360 who's a trust fund kid and he'll like put his 0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.719 credit card gets paid for by his parents, so he'll 0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:32.480 pay for the dinner, and then of his friend's venmo 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.879 him and that's the money he uses for rent, and 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.440 like he's swindling people. 0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:39.439 You remember who I was, You know what you're talking about. 0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:40.400 That's why I was referencing. 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:45.719 Yeah, yeah, oh okay, yeah, So guess what. I was 0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:50.960 hanging out with one of his friends and I mentioned 0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:53.520 him and this other and he goes, oh yeah, for 0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.400 some reason, me and our other friend, whenever our girlfriends 0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:01.440 are around, they say not to invite him. Really, I 0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:03.640 go really, He goes, yeah, anytime we have girlfriends. 0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:05.359 And I was like, please don't invite him. 0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:09.080 So I'm like, damn, if both of your girlfriends or 0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:11.720 women that you hang out with are always saying don't 0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:14.960 invite him, like, yeah, stop hanging out with. 0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:21.800 Him, right, take the hint? Interesting, interesting, one thing? Everything? 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:22.239 All right? 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:23.920 So this is a deadbeat and I actually want to 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.200 beat the shit out of him. Give your fucking baby money. 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:28.880 Whatever. 0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.960 So because of the trust fund, they're like, wait, can 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.080 this be a ransom situation? But now Rollin's phone dans 0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.279 uh oh, the image has been found online, but it's 0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:40.520 not porn, it's something else. 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:42.480 And then they have like. 0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.520 Old people talk to prove that they know technology, like 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.879 she goes, can you mirror this? And then Corry goes, 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.080 send me the link and I just think it's like fake. 0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:54.719 It's like so silly. So this poor girl, an amazing actress, 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.920 she's crying. Someone is brushing her hair and it's really 0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.160 hurting her and she's screaming, and we hear this bitch's 0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:05.240 voice off screen going I know all you bad boys 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:08.399 like to watch, and it's like, ugh, what's going on? 0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:09.640 And there's a shot collar. 0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:13.359 The electrodes are clicking and she puts it around her neck. 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:16.600 She's also calling the girl Missy and she goes, no, 0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:20.360 I'm Haley, and she screams, hey, it's too tight, but 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.359 it's on, and she just starts electrifying this young girl. 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:28.239 As she's screaming. Crisy's like, uh, what are we looking at? 0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.600 And it's torture and control. And then Rollins is the 0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:37.680 new bd Wong and goes, it's delegated sadism orchestrating violence, 0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.880 her torture, but not because viewers want to be a 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:44.600 part of it. They just want to watch suffering. And 0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.520 then also these freaks like the money they're spending on 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.200 watching it is not only power over the victim but 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.400 the aggressor too, And so it's like just all this 0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:56.799 fucking power stuff. I mean, men really have to let 0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.360 go of their need for power. Like everything bad in 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:03.160 the world is ego in power from men. Yep, you 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:05.040 need to feel powerful. So a girl has to get 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.440 kidnapped and shot collared in a base, Like what are 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:07.920 we doing here? 0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:13.000 Yeah? Fucked. I just don't understand. 0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:17.440 There are a dozen or so of these sites. You know, 0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:20.759 Rollin's is explaining everything, and one is called Missy Mayhem. 0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.960 But Velaska's like, wait, hold up, If Nick Nick knows 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.360 about these sites, why don't they just shut them down? 0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:28.839 And Rollins goes, well, they're mostly like all set up 0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:32.680 in Southeast Asia, but this one is different. We're gonna 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:36.040 find her and through some sort of information I don't know, 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.359 she's in the Tri State area. Basically, we find out 0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.359 through some signals that she's within two hours away from 0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:42.880 the city. 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:45.680 They show the mom the video. I don't know if 0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:46.760 I whatever. 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:50.800 The mom's not thrilled, obviously, but we're happy that she's alive. 0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.879 And in my head, it's like and the mom goes, oh, fuck, 0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:58.040 is this child porn? And they go no, but like 0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:02.720 what is it? And yeah, is this good or bad news? 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:07.200 It's like so fucked, Like it's really fucked. And they're like, listen, 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.120 there's a woman involved, and we're going to play you 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:12.160 the audio just in case you know her. And she 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.759 does not recognize the voice. And so now we're at 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:18.880 TARU because like it's crazy because of one little VPN. 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:20.960 We don't know who's hosting it. Like I think VPNs 0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:21.680 should be illegal. 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:22.080 I don't know. 0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.440 I'm against them now just because this one episode. Yeah, 0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.839 I don't think you should be able to VPN and 0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:30.719 then do child torture on the internet. 0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:33.120 We've been telling people to watch the show on VPN 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:34.719 for like one hundreds of episodes. 0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:36.239 Well, because I didn't think about them. 0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.520 My brain doesn't go to this, but yeah, I know 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:42.960 it's yeah, but listen to this. 0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:45.799 So they don't know who's hosting, but they have a 0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:52.080 few hundred subscribers. That's not a lot. To do this 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.480 for two three hundred people. I don't get it. 0:45:56.480 --> 0:46:00.880 Yeah, unless it's like they're paying really hard high premiums 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:02.359 because it's so fucked up. 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:04.680 I don't know how much do you think. 0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.880 They're like hundred dollars a month and then you're getting 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:11.680 twenty that's twenty thousand, right, if you had two hundred 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.920 times No, that's two thousand. 0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:14.879 I don't know. That's not enough. 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:19.040 Not to do this, not to do this, right, that's 0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:22.759 two thousand dollars a month. Like if it's two hundred people, 0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:24.479 it's three thousand dollars. It's three hundred people. 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.600 I mean, I always would tell anyone that wants to 0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:29.440 be like successful on the internet, like get over and 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.240 just try, Like one hundred people is more than nobody, 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.000 Like keep at it. But not for the no, no, 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:37.719 not for torture. If you're doing torture, wait till you 0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:40.560 have more subscribers. Like I'm sorry, this is so fucked 0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:44.560 And it's been going on for two years, Jesus, but 0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:47.359 two years, so what? But they just got this girl, 0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.920 so what's going on? And all the other videos have 0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.879 been deleted it's just this one video is now put up. 0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:56.360 But they have a list of a couple dozen subscribers 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.200 that don't use a VPN, So let's go get these motherfuckers. 0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:01.600 They drag a guy in and he's denying it, and 0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:02.760 he's like, am I in trouble? 0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:06.480 And it's like, yeah, I don't know what to tell you. 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.279 I don't know why you would think you weren't in 0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:11.680 trouble for watching a child get electrocuted, Like, I don't 0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:15.600 understand these people. So and the girl is kidnapped and 0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:17.279 he goes, well, I just like watching and he and 0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:20.160 then and he goes, I just thought she was acting, 0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.279 and Curry gets in his face. You paid money to 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:27.080 watch a little girl get tortured. That's facilitating an assault, 0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.160 a felony, and child in danger. 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:29.359 Man. 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.000 Now there's another guy and he's like, oh, yeah, no, 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.360 I only looked for a few seconds. It was an accident. 0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:36.360 And they're like, we have proof you use your credit 0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.360 card multiple times, and so he makes up Yeah, he 0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.480 makes a face like a puppy that's been caught, like 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:45.000 I don't know, shitting in a shoe like me. And 0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:46.440 then we go to another guy. You know, it's like 0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.279 a parade of perverts. And so he's like, well, no, no, no. 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:51.160 When I found out it was a kid and not 0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.720 an adult, I wouldn't do this, you know, I can't 0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:57.840 be a pedophile. I'm a dentist for children. And Silva's 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:01.080 face is really like really bitch. So but of course 0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:04.280 he's a child dentist. He's probably getting hard torturing these kids. 0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:05.440 Oh my god. 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:11.680 Yeah, like yeah, I bet he's hurting them on purpose. 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:15.120 And trust me, the sb will make sure you're not 0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:19.200 a dentist anymore. So now there's another dude. It's just 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.239 like a montage of the worst men. And this guy's 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:24.879 name is mister Kaufman, and he goes, oh, another it's 0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:27.360 an accident. But they have evidence that he's been a 0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.520 subscriber to the site for two years, and he goes, yeah, 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:33.279 but that's not Missy Mayhem. He's like, I like the 0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.880 original one better. It was the only girl on the 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.080 site and now it's all deleted. But he doesn't know why. 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:42.480 So they asked him to tell the scoop listen, she 0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.239 was a little older, but I screen recorded some of 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.160 the videos. And then he goes, please don't tell them. 0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:52.840 I could get kicked off the site, you're going to jail, 0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:56.399 and then you're gonna be on a registry and you're 0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:58.080 not going to be able to go on the internet. 0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:03.359 So I don't really I just don't understand anybody. Yeah, 0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:07.200 you're done being a dentist, You're done being a freeman. 0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.520 Like, what is up with these guys? 0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:14.520 They really don't think they've done anything wrong. Yeah, Okay, 0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:16.480 So now we're watching the footage of the other girl 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:20.040 and she looks weathered. Okay, this seems like long time 0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:23.920 tortures just written on her face. And she's acting like 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:27.480 a trained dog. And there's clicker training, which I learned 0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.000 just from this episode, and I guess clicker training like 0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:34.720 teaches dog's obedience. And we hear the same woman's voice. 0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.680 But this girl is not anywhere else on the internet, 0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:41.240 according to Nick Mick, and nobody ever reported her missing. 0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.640 But all the videos are similar. They're degrading, like one 0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:46.680 time they put a cone on her neck, and like 0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:49.279 you know, obviously the shot collar of it all. And 0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:52.879 they're playing in the audio and Benson catches something and 0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:56.240 there's dogs barking in the background, but tons of dogs 0:49:56.520 --> 0:49:58.880 and this is all like dog training things. So it's like, 0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:02.000 holy shit, there's so many dog readers upstate. We got 0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.360 to figure this out. And now, unfortunately a new video 0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:10.919 dropped of Haley and so it's really bad and she's 0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:13.760 like sleeping in a dog bed, which does seem comfortable 0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:15.600 if I'm being honest. They're actually trying to invent like 0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.160 adult dog beds for like naps right now, because I 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:20.880 think we're all just like I don't know, just like 0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:23.719 the fascism and pandemic back to back, Like I think 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:25.720 we just want to curl up but not forced. 0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:27.200 This is scary. I don't like it. 0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.600 Benson is watching and just grabbing her chest like she 0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:34.120 is so scared. The girl is so scared, Like I 0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:36.200 just love after all these I mean, obviously Maurshia is 0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:39.200 such a great actress, but like that Bet like, I 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.560 don't know, this scene was just really powerful to me 0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:45.320 of her still being so distraught for all these kids, 0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:49.560 not desensitized at all, and the girl is like trying 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.280 to fight back, but like she can't, she's. 0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:53.160 Gonna get shot collared. 0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:56.799 So they go to this dog technology guy and they 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.680 like figure out the breed and they isolate the barking 0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:02.319 and they remove all the noises and they actually have 0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.200 a bark eyed program, so no promises, but it's for 0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:07.560 sure a guard dog. So they bring the mom back 0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:09.680 in and she's obviously thinking, like, good news, you found 0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:11.799 my daughter, but it's like, no, actually, can you tell 0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:13.920 us if you ever know if you have ever interacted 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:16.319 with a large dog? She's like what, and they'rely, has 0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.000 anyone with a large dog approached you? 0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:18.120 No? 0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:19.880 Do you know someone with a big dog? 0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:20.200 No? 0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:23.040 Were you looking to buy a dog? She's like, why 0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:26.120 are you asking me about these dogs? And they tell 0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:28.719 her there's another video but with a different girl, and 0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:32.200 they explain the dog situation, but she's saying no to 0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:35.440 all of these things, and like she starts being scared 0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:38.920 and confused in the office obviously, and so it's all 0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:41.759 hands on deck and they know that it could be 0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:46.279 three dog breeds Rottweiler's, Doberman's, and a cane Corsos. 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:48.840 It's not spelled how it's pronounced. 0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:52.200 Still tell you that much, Okay, So it's a shortlist 0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:55.600 of readers upstate that have these types of dogs. So Curry, 0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.280 Silva and Velasco are there, and they go to Victoria 0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:01.200 Gray and this dog breeder does recognize her. The other 0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:04.239 girl her husband's dead and she's not connected to the crime, 0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:06.480 and I kind of like her vibe. But why are 0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:07.359 they there. 0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:09.759 Like we get this whole thing, Like nothing comes out 0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.480 of talking to that woman. Well, because of the chase, 0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.239 they got to go to all the house, sure, but 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.319 that's usually like with a voice over. It's like they 0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:18.000 did a whole setup and they hired this woman. She's 0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:18.719 not even part of it. 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:22.080 Like, it makes no sense to me, but I liked 0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:22.960 her so much. 0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:28.480 Okay, she definitely has Upstate Martha Stewart dog bringing, yes, yeah. 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:33.040 Yeah, yeah, Okay. So then another man saw the story online, 0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:36.280 who they ask but he hasn't seen her or Misty, 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:40.000 and there's like no wedding ring. And then I can't 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.960 believe this came up. But Curry's like, no wedding ring 0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:44.760 and he hides his hand. He goes, I'm not married, 0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:47.400 and they're like, well, is there a woman here? An employee, 0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:50.160 a business partner, And he goes, I'm dating a guy. 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:53.719 What the fuck? And this isn't a gay bash. They're 0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:56.440 just looking for a woman. Obviously there's a woman voice. 0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:58.400 So they go to another man and it's a couple 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:00.880 and they haven't seen the girl, but the other girl 0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:04.200 does seem familiar, and the guy walks off. He goes, 0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:07.920 I don't no, and they keep pushing because the woman 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:11.359 does like keep looking at this photo and they go, well, 0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:14.120 do you ever meet people at like dog shows other breeders? 0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:16.720 And they go, yeah, for sure. And then the woman 0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:21.840 is like, wait, Gary, she looks like the Carwoods, little girl, 0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:24.560 don't you think? And they ask, like, who are the Carwoods? 0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.839 And so she says that they're Rottweiler breeders and they 0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:32.160 live in Ellenville and they've crossed paths and they met 0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:34.719 the daughter at a show last year, but they only 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:37.839 saw her once, but she swears it was her and 0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:40.719 they called her Ashland. And so now we're on our 0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:44.440 way to Ellenville, and fuck, this couple has like hundreds 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:48.560 of acres and half a dozen registered guns, so they 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.120 really have to be careful with this one. And so 0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:53.360 Silva gets word that Ellenville has a record of an 0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:57.080 Ashland Carwood being born in twenty thirteen to a Nicole 0:53:57.160 --> 0:54:00.600 and Dennis. So Curry decides like, let's get there. Let's 0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:03.520 get Ellenville PD and state troopers to meet us. There like, 0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:05.880 we have two young girls in danger and there's no 0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:10.120 time to waste. So the house is surrounded. Benson and Rollin's, wow, 0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:12.279 you guys made it up there fast. And they're like, 0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:15.600 are you sure it's their daughter, and Silva says yes, 0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.160 but she's not registered to any of the local schools 0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:21.399 and Benson goes, well, she could be homeschooled, and one 0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:23.080 of the reasons I'm against homeschooling. 0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:23.520 Okay. 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:26.319 So then a bunch of dogs are out back and 0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:28.520 it's a tiny, tiny, little white house in the front. 0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:31.040 For all those acres, you'd think they'd build a bigger home, 0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:34.960 like build an extension. Maybe there's like more cabins throughout 0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:37.480 the property or something, or I don't. 0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:38.600 Know what I'm talking about. Okay. 0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:44.160 So they're in the dark trees going into the Carwoods house. Rollin's, 0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:45.680 Curry and Benson are going to take the house, and 0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:47.839 then Velasko and Silver are going to go out back, 0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:50.280 and we see a blonde woman peer out the window 0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:52.480 and then we hear a gun shot, so they all 0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:54.640 run in and she's holding a gun under her chin. 0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:57.200 We see the man a shot and he's bleeding from 0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:00.440 his stomach. She's screaming, leave us alone, don't touch me, 0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:03.240 and Benson says, how about we all take a breath, 0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:05.719 and she cocks the gun. I mean this, bitch, like 0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:09.400 this scene is high octane, I would say, and just 0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:12.959 the timing of everything, the gun cock everything, and Benson goes, 0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:15.799 it's over, babe, and she screams, it's not over, leave 0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:18.800 me alone, and the dogs are barking loud, and Benson's 0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:21.280 asking her to drop the weapon, and after a heavy 0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:24.400 breathing and crying, she finally does the handcuff her and 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.600 the man is still bleeding on the floor, and they 0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:29.680 go where is Haley And she makes her lips really 0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:33.160 small and tight like she's never gonna tell, and Curry 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:36.400 runs in and says, we found something. Benson and Rollins 0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:39.320 walk past tons of cages and dogs and they find 0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:42.279 like the rainbow pink litter room and it's in those 0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:45.000 bar and it's so fucking gross, but there's no sign 0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.680 of the girl, and so they're searching and searching. 0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:49.520 They call in a canine unit. 0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:52.640 So there's all these people with flashlights and we're trying 0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:56.799 and that like we're trying to find somebody. So the 0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:59.719 dog stopped and Unfortunately, a man has to start shoveling 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:01.919 and some kneels down and we see a little girl. 0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:03.480 We zoom in. 0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:08.720 She's like in pink, there's a unicorn and very very upsetting. 0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:09.440 Extremely shallow. 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:13.399 This man took two digs right Like, it's really really 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:15.640 very shallow, very deep. 0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:19.360 Yeah, it's daytime and we have a buzz cut hot 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:21.200 CSU tech with sad news. 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:21.960 Oh yeah, I don't know. 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:25.920 I was like and the hottest new babe in the 0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:27.000 villa or whatever. 0:56:27.160 --> 0:56:30.440 Yeah, a new bombshell has entered villa. 0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:37.200 Oh my god, I'm so disconnected from I don't want Yeah, 0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:41.440 you got it together though, so whatever, this this CSU 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:42.680 Tech's hot, That's all I'm saying. 0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:43.960 But she does have sad news. 0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:48.439 Multiple spiral fractures, missing teeth, broken ribs, and the poor 0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:51.280 girl suffered a lot of abuse since she's probably twelve 0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:55.320 and then and also the CSU tech is like folly pierced, 0:56:55.360 --> 0:57:01.160 like full facial piercings everywhere. I'm like, wow, of modern time. Okay, 0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:05.000 back to disaster, back to sadness. It's their daughter, Missy 0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:08.640 Mayhem is their daughter. It's their biological daughter. They tortured 0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:11.400 and buried their daughter in a shallow grave near a 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:12.720 bunch of dog cages. 0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.760 Disgusting. So she's in custody. 0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:18.840 Benson and Rollins roll in like they want to tear 0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:22.120 her from limb to limb, and Benson asks her where 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:24.480 is Haley, And before she can say a word, Rollins 0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:26.960 leans down to get closer to her and says, you 0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:30.560 buried your own daughter in your backyard? Did you kill her? 0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:32.840 And she just goes, where's my husband? And they go 0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:34.720 in the hospital. Do you remember you shot him in 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:38.760 the stomach? And she already has counsel. A lawyer comes 0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:41.280 in goes she doesn't have to talk, and Benson goes, well, 0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.400 she's being charged with kidnapping and murder, so maybe she 0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:46.360 should start helping herself out. And this woman has so 0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:50.080 much attitude, like loudly barks at her. I will decide 0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:54.320 what questions I answer. Not you, I don't understand. The 0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:56.240 lawyer goes, she doesn't have to talk. There's a dead 0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:59.480 body on your property, so what are you? What do 0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:04.840 you think the the deal is like crazy? They're not, well, 0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:05.680 I'll tell you that much. 0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:06.760 Yeah. 0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:09.480 So Benson's nostrils are like flaring. She hates her so 0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.400 much and Benson goes, the only question I care about 0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:15.360 is where is Haley? And this bitch is silent, and 0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:17.320 now we're in the hospital. The guy wakes up and 0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:19.800 the first thing he says is where's my wife? And 0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:23.720 Korean Velasco are there with his lawyer as well, so 0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:27.000 they got lawyered up so fast, and they say, listen, 0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:29.760 we got her, and you the first one that talks 0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:31.720 gets a deal. I don't know what to say, and 0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:34.200 the lawyer goes, ooh fun, what kind of deal and 0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:36.760 they go okay, yeah, no, first show us where Haley is. 0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:39.520 So they try to use the fact. 0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:41.880 That she shot him into getting him to talk, and 0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:43.800 he goes, well, no, that's been the plan all along. 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.680 We said if the cops find us, we take ourselves out. 0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:48.960 But the plan didn't work. You're both still here and 0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:50.040 you're the only one shot. 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:50.520 But okay. 0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:53.440 They tell him they found his daughter. Whose idea was that? 0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:55.600 And he goes, I didn't kill her. She was sick 0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:58.320 of being missy Mayhem. Her and Nicole had a fight 0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:00.720 about it, and Nicole said she pushed and that it 0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:04.000 was an accident, and they go, but you didn't call 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:05.600 the police, and he goes well, we didn't want to 0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:07.880 get blamed for it. And they say that the emmy 0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:09.760 said that she was abused, and he goes, well, not 0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:12.240 buy me, and they go, no, you just like to 0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:14.160 watch little girls in pain, don't you. 0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:17.400 That's how the site started. Huh. He looks off. 0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:20.920 The lawyer goes like, I guess I don't want to 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:21.240 be here. 0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:23.600 I think. The lawyers like, oh, another day at work. 0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:25.280 And then after this he was like, Okay, I need 0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:28.760 to get the fuck out of here. So now we're like, 0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:32.000 there's more talking, there's more talking, there's more blabbing. And 0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:35.000 she also has like a lot of roots like in 0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:36.920 her hair and I'm like, yeah, you dumb bitch, go 0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:40.520 get your hair highlighted. And she's saying that she like 0:59:40.600 --> 0:59:43.080 the site was his idea and he was into that stuff. 0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:45.920 But it's also like it doesn't actually matter whose idea 0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:49.040 it was. Yeah, like you're both going away. It's like, oh, 0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:51.479 but it was his idea. You truly tortured a child 0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:54.840 on camera. So Rollins says like, oh, what I'm getting 0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.360 at is like you just played into his stuff, right, 0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:00.200 And so she goes, listen, we were raising roddy them 1:00:00.240 --> 1:00:02.080 for a while. And then one day I shoved the 1:00:02.080 --> 1:00:04.760 dog's nose in a mess that he made, and Dennis 1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:07.560 got a boner, and so he liked to watch her 1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:09.200 discipline the dogs. 1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:14.080 And then dot dot your own child. She goes, yeah, 1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:17.000 things really changed when she came along. And Benson and 1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:19.480 Rollins are so disgusted with her, and they go, oh, 1:00:19.520 --> 1:00:22.000 so you started putting her face into the carpet until 1:00:22.080 --> 1:00:24.920 she died, and she says, well, we had to replace her. 1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:26.440 We make money off the site. 1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:29.240 And they asked how they chose Haley and she says 1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:32.120 that Haley waved to them and they were at a 1:00:32.160 --> 1:00:36.120 stoplight and that Dennis took that as a sign, don't 1:00:36.160 --> 1:00:40.280 wave to anyone. My god, So the kidnapping was his 1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:43.280 idea as well. And the lawyers like, hey, where is 1:00:43.320 --> 1:00:46.200 this going? And Benson goes, listen, you know exactly how 1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:50.240 this is going. There's only one deal. She looks crazed. 1:00:50.680 --> 1:00:54.120 This actress is incredible. I've really never been this scared of. 1:00:54.160 --> 1:00:56.920 So well, I guess Charisma. Charisma was pretty scary in 1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:59.960 terms of and Pablo William lewis, Yeah, she might be 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:02.439 the scariest woman. 1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:05.400 Woman on top, top scary woman. Yeah, yeah, I would 1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:06.280 say so. 1:01:06.280 --> 1:01:08.640 So basically, Benson's kind of taunting her a little bit, 1:01:08.760 --> 1:01:11.600 you know, just like, oh so you don't like to 1:01:11.640 --> 1:01:14.439 watch though you like to be in control. Well guess 1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:17.080 what you're not gonna like jail if you like control. 1:01:18.080 --> 1:01:20.560 But again, you're both going away for a long time. 1:01:20.680 --> 1:01:23.640 There's no deals, like we just want the girls alive, Like, 1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:26.600 come on, let's go. She purses her lips again, and 1:01:26.640 --> 1:01:30.440 now we are in an Ellenville cold storage? Is this 1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:33.680 another one of your plot holes? Or now yes, same 1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:36.200 me too. How did you know to put her in 1:01:36.280 --> 1:01:38.320 cold storage? How did you know the cops were coming? 1:01:39.080 --> 1:01:39.160 Like? 1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:40.840 Why is she in cold storage? 1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:41.080 Like? 1:01:41.400 --> 1:01:42.479 How long has she been there? 1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:44.919 Like do you think she's always there and they take 1:01:44.960 --> 1:01:47.000 her out once in a while or she got punished 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:49.320 or like they keep her there overnight, Like I don't 1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:50.000 know why they hit It. 1:01:50.080 --> 1:01:52.240 Doesn't make sense that she wasn't just in like a 1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:54.760 fucking set and the room that was hidden in the 1:01:54.920 --> 1:01:55.880 fucking place. 1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:59.000 Yeah you know, yeah, this was one that I go, 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:00.919 why is she in the freezer story? 1:02:01.000 --> 1:02:01.160 Yeah? 1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:03.120 Why is she at some freezer place? Like that could 1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:04.920 also kill her at any point? You guys want to 1:02:04.920 --> 1:02:06.720 like just keep having a kidnapped girls, Like, why are 1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:09.000 you trying to freeze this girl to death? 1:02:09.080 --> 1:02:10.800 Like it just makes no sense now. 1:02:11.880 --> 1:02:16.360 And what are those like those kind of like plastic 1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:18.919 thick curtain like curtain beat things. 1:02:18.920 --> 1:02:19.520 I like those. 1:02:19.720 --> 1:02:23.480 Yeah, they're like grocery stores. I really like they're like 1:02:23.520 --> 1:02:25.320 for walking freezers and stuff. 1:02:25.440 --> 1:02:27.240 Yeah, I like it. 1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:31.600 She leaps into Velasko's arms, crying, sweet actress. 1:02:31.640 --> 1:02:33.360 I mean she's she really leaped. 1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:37.720 Silva's there to blanket her, and they tell her it's okay. 1:02:38.120 --> 1:02:38.959 So now we're in court. 1:02:39.080 --> 1:02:42.680 She's pleading not guilty for kidnapping, and Creasy's obviously wants 1:02:42.680 --> 1:02:44.200 to amand two million dollar bail. 1:02:44.600 --> 1:02:47.160 The judge agrees, get her out of our sight. 1:02:47.840 --> 1:02:50.080 So but the lawyer's like a little annoyed, like, hey, 1:02:50.240 --> 1:02:52.240 my client acted on her word and you guys got 1:02:52.280 --> 1:02:53.320 Haley safe. 1:02:53.040 --> 1:03:01.560 And unharmed, unharmed. Fuck off, are you kidding? Hugh? So 1:03:01.840 --> 1:03:03.720 Cristy goes, I don't care. Please get her out of 1:03:03.720 --> 1:03:05.480 here so she can pay her bail and then we 1:03:05.480 --> 1:03:07.760 can talk. I'm not talking about anything right now. So 1:03:07.760 --> 1:03:10.080 while they're taking her away, they're roll like they're wheeling. 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:10.760 The husband in. 1:03:10.880 --> 1:03:13.720 He's injured, he can't walk, and he goes, baby, why 1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:14.480 won't you look at me? 1:03:14.600 --> 1:03:15.160 I love you? 1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:18.720 Please, And she's taken away without another glance at this man, 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:21.120 and then the judge tells him to shut up, and 1:03:21.200 --> 1:03:23.680 Carisey wants the same thing, two million dollars, like put 1:03:23.720 --> 1:03:26.360 him in jail. So now Cariese's talking to the woman 1:03:26.400 --> 1:03:28.520 and the lawyer in the room and he unbuttons one 1:03:28.560 --> 1:03:31.320 button as he walks in, and he says, listen, your 1:03:31.360 --> 1:03:33.400 man said not guilty as well. You want to talk, 1:03:33.440 --> 1:03:35.520 then talk, bitch. I don't have time. And they're in 1:03:35.560 --> 1:03:39.360 a room that's wild, marble room, woodblinds and cement bars 1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:44.080 on the window. Okay, so she says for a loop, Yeah, 1:03:44.760 --> 1:03:49.080 she says, what will happen to her dogs? Cariesy is flabbergasted. 1:03:49.600 --> 1:03:52.400 Not your husband, not your dead daughter, just the dogs. 1:03:52.440 --> 1:03:54.560 She says, well, I need to make sure my babies 1:03:54.600 --> 1:03:57.160 go to good homes. He says that, I mean that's 1:03:57.200 --> 1:03:59.000 the thing, like why did they have kids? Like what 1:03:59.120 --> 1:03:59.400 the like? 1:03:59.520 --> 1:04:02.160 Dad, you clearly don't want kids, right. 1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:04.800 He says that animal control has them and he is 1:04:04.880 --> 1:04:08.080 sure they are being taken care of, and her lawyer goes, Okay, 1:04:08.120 --> 1:04:10.840 back to my client, please. So they want to keep 1:04:10.840 --> 1:04:15.000 doing this deal and everything, but all the other chargers 1:04:15.040 --> 1:04:17.800 are in a different county. He only has the kidnapping charge, 1:04:17.840 --> 1:04:20.080 so he goes, i'll give her twenty five years. The 1:04:20.160 --> 1:04:23.040 lawyer goes, that's hardly a deal. I'd rather risk court. 1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:26.200 And Christy goes, oh, you probably haven't heard about the 1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:31.200 federal charges of producing and distributing illegal content and human trafficking. 1:04:31.920 --> 1:04:34.640 And she says that was all Dennis. I had nothing 1:04:34.680 --> 1:04:36.960 to do with that, and they're like, you're on the videos. 1:04:37.560 --> 1:04:39.520 So the lawyer tries to tell her to shut up. 1:04:39.600 --> 1:04:41.360 Parsey goes, well, I don't think the feds are going 1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:44.040 to agree that, like she had nothing to do with it, 1:04:44.120 --> 1:04:47.880 she's on Tapechrisey goes, you did cooperate and we found 1:04:47.880 --> 1:04:50.400 Haley alive. I'd be willing to talk to the feds. 1:04:50.880 --> 1:04:54.000 And so the lawyer goes, we'll plead guilty to kidnapping 1:04:54.040 --> 1:04:55.720 if you drop the federal charges. 1:04:56.160 --> 1:04:57.840 Done, and he gets up to leave. 1:04:58.560 --> 1:05:00.320 She goes, hey, what about the other charge, just like 1:05:00.320 --> 1:05:03.000 a manslaughter I didn't kill my daughter. He goes, I 1:05:03.000 --> 1:05:05.960 already told you. I don't work in Ulster County. So 1:05:06.040 --> 1:05:08.480 now Benson and Rollins go to the hospital and the 1:05:08.520 --> 1:05:10.160 mom comes out of her daughter's room and is like, 1:05:10.200 --> 1:05:14.320 oh my God, thank you. There's not any lasting injuries. 1:05:14.360 --> 1:05:17.360 She's gonna be just fine. Great to hear, great to hear, 1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:19.840 Maybe a little therapy, hopefully the dad will put some 1:05:19.880 --> 1:05:23.400 trust fund Monday in the therapy Jesus and some child care. 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:27.040 How about that, you dead beat? And she wants a 1:05:27.080 --> 1:05:31.280 fresh start. Her parents retired in Vermont, so they're gonna 1:05:31.320 --> 1:05:33.960 go live up there, so that's really exciting and they 1:05:34.000 --> 1:05:36.600 think and the detectives think it's a great idea. She 1:05:36.680 --> 1:05:39.480 thinks the detectives and goes back to her daughter. So 1:05:39.560 --> 1:05:42.479 now Dennis and Nicole both made deals. They both pled 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:46.160 guilty for kidnapping in Manhattan and assault and kidnapping in 1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:50.520 Ulster County, and they're both gonna be serving twenty five 1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:52.600 to life. So I guess what's the deal that it's 1:05:52.640 --> 1:05:55.040 not a federal prison or death penalty. 1:05:55.400 --> 1:05:57.080 Yeah, do you. 1:05:57.080 --> 1:05:59.160 Get but you don't get death penalty for oh the 1:05:59.360 --> 1:06:02.240 child was Yeah, okay, I guess they could have gotten 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:02.840 the death penalty. 1:06:02.920 --> 1:06:04.280 I don't know why they would it's to New York, 1:06:04.400 --> 1:06:06.120 see though, and why would it have been, Oh, it's 1:06:06.160 --> 1:06:10.200 the federal is because of the child like abuse being 1:06:10.760 --> 1:06:15.400 across like international lines or whatever. But like New York's 1:06:15.440 --> 1:06:17.480 no death penalty, so federally, yeah, you're right, I don't know. 1:06:17.640 --> 1:06:21.720 Yeah, but they're still hammering out the details, crazy says, 1:06:21.760 --> 1:06:24.200 But twenty five to Life Benson sized some relief, and 1:06:24.200 --> 1:06:26.760 they also rounded up all the subscribers and they're all 1:06:26.760 --> 1:06:30.360 going to get serious time too good. And that is something, 1:06:30.520 --> 1:06:33.640 but it doesn't answer her question how does a parent 1:06:33.760 --> 1:06:36.400 do that to their own kid? And Rollin's is like, Babe, 1:06:36.400 --> 1:06:38.600 you've been working this job longer than I have and 1:06:38.680 --> 1:06:39.600 you still don't know. 1:06:39.920 --> 1:06:40.680 And they don't. 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:43.840 But they go home and it's mom kid Dinner, Pizza Day, 1:06:44.520 --> 1:06:47.360 the girls and Noah and they all cheers and their 1:06:47.400 --> 1:06:50.000 pizza like with their pizza slices, and they're eating at 1:06:50.000 --> 1:06:53.000 acute restaurant and it's like a very nice way to 1:06:53.160 --> 1:06:55.040 end such a bad episode. 1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:57.360 Yeah, a nice little palate cleanser. Though, if I was 1:06:57.400 --> 1:06:59.600 at a restaurant where a family was cheersing their slices, 1:06:59.640 --> 1:07:02.600 I'd be like like, relax, you know, oh that's. 1:07:05.760 --> 1:07:07.760 But I do like cheers and kids with things that 1:07:07.800 --> 1:07:10.480 they could cheers with. But yeah, that's dick wolf baby, 1:07:10.680 --> 1:07:13.800 and uh, I just want to hear about the crime. 1:07:14.320 --> 1:07:15.240 I just well listen. 1:07:15.400 --> 1:07:17.080 I just think this episode is so weird, and I'm 1:07:17.120 --> 1:07:20.600 like really happy that this current showrunner is leaving, Like, like, 1:07:21.400 --> 1:07:24.440 walk me through how this works. Like you tortured your 1:07:24.480 --> 1:07:26.560 daughter because it gave your husband a boner, and then 1:07:26.560 --> 1:07:30.080 you started an online website showing the abuse to give 1:07:30.200 --> 1:07:32.680 other men boners and make kind of a little bit 1:07:32.720 --> 1:07:35.080 of money. And then when you kill her, which you 1:07:35.200 --> 1:07:38.160 deny doing. I guess you said it's an accident and 1:07:38.200 --> 1:07:39.960 no one found out. You go into the city, you 1:07:40.000 --> 1:07:42.440 wave at a little girl, you follow her. She happens 1:07:42.480 --> 1:07:44.520 to have like all of the none of it like 1:07:44.640 --> 1:07:46.840 makes really any sense to me. And then what are 1:07:46.840 --> 1:07:49.440 you doing with the money raising dogs on a farm? 1:07:49.720 --> 1:07:52.400 I'm confused, Like none of the motivation is clear of 1:07:52.400 --> 1:07:54.800 why you would do this, Like I it makes more 1:07:54.840 --> 1:07:56.640 sense to me, even though it's like horrific to be 1:07:56.760 --> 1:07:59.720 like she was misbehaving and I was punishing her, you 1:07:59.760 --> 1:08:00.280 know what I mean. 1:08:00.280 --> 1:08:01.080 Like when people do that. 1:08:01.040 --> 1:08:03.200 It's like, Okay, you're psychotic, but at least I like 1:08:03.600 --> 1:08:07.400 understand like her motivation for like not liking her daughter 1:08:07.480 --> 1:08:09.800 and like torturing her to death doesn't make any sense 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:12.000 to me, and like exploiting her like I didn't. 1:08:11.840 --> 1:08:14.680 Show it because she's a dog person. I don't think 1:08:14.680 --> 1:08:17.240 she should have had kids. But I also wonder if 1:08:17.280 --> 1:08:20.439 it's like you know, in Mormonism, Heather from Salt Lake 1:08:20.439 --> 1:08:22.240 talks about it, where like you can get into heaven 1:08:22.280 --> 1:08:24.400 without kids, but you can't get into the Mormon heaven 1:08:24.400 --> 1:08:28.880 without a husband. And it's like that's like a patriarchal, 1:08:29.160 --> 1:08:32.320 like authoritative way to make you put men above everyone. 1:08:32.760 --> 1:08:34.880 So when a man mlsts your kids or wants to 1:08:34.880 --> 1:08:37.360 marry a teen or whatever, you will allow. 1:08:37.479 --> 1:08:39.439 You're more likely to allow it because that's your ticket 1:08:39.479 --> 1:08:42.599 to heaven. And I would have loved to have seen 1:08:42.640 --> 1:08:45.160 a religious tie in or something. 1:08:44.920 --> 1:08:45.439 But not more. 1:08:45.479 --> 1:08:48.040 I'm just using Mormonism as an example, but there is 1:08:48.080 --> 1:08:50.759 this thing of like my man, people picking their man 1:08:50.920 --> 1:08:53.920 over their child everything. Yeah, you know, so like I 1:08:54.000 --> 1:08:56.280 wonder if it's that kind of situation where it's like 1:08:56.320 --> 1:08:59.280 she likes being liked by this guy and like his 1:08:59.720 --> 1:09:02.760 set actual needs are above everything else, but like she 1:09:02.880 --> 1:09:05.240 must get off on it, she must hate this child, 1:09:05.320 --> 1:09:07.720 she must have been abuse, Like right, you're right, there 1:09:07.800 --> 1:09:12.680 must have been more to it, because it's like like, 1:09:13.080 --> 1:09:17.040 so you've hired a sex worker and like degraded her. 1:09:17.640 --> 1:09:20.759 Yeah, Like I don't know, do it? Or we've seen 1:09:21.280 --> 1:09:24.960 this all before. I mean, we've seen stuff like this 1:09:25.120 --> 1:09:26.920 on this show. But it's like it just feels like 1:09:26.960 --> 1:09:28.880 the dots are not connected in this episode. 1:09:29.240 --> 1:09:31.360 You know, I honestly didn't know. 1:09:31.720 --> 1:09:35.720 I really didn't see the dots until I read it 1:09:35.720 --> 1:09:38.680 out loud. I am like, I'm so scared of this episode. 1:09:39.080 --> 1:09:41.960 I didn't even catch how few subscribers they had until 1:09:42.000 --> 1:09:44.519 you said. And then I'm like that makes even less sense, 1:09:44.600 --> 1:09:46.840 Like what's the motivation here if you're getting it, if 1:09:46.840 --> 1:09:49.680 this is going out to thousands and thousands, like we 1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:52.200 always are getting these episodes where it's like, oh my god, 1:09:52.680 --> 1:09:55.519 look how many subscribers they have. It's ten thousand people 1:09:55.560 --> 1:09:56.800 are watching that, you know what I mean? 1:09:56.920 --> 1:10:00.559 Like cause same theory, and they're like, let's say they're 1:10:00.600 --> 1:10:02.840 making less than ten grand, which doesn't seem worth like 1:10:02.840 --> 1:10:06.280 the torture and murder of a child, but they also 1:10:06.280 --> 1:10:11.160 have hundreds of acres, so they're not poor. Yeah, it's 1:10:11.200 --> 1:10:14.479 not one to five acres, they said, hundreds of acres. 1:10:14.800 --> 1:10:18.400 Yeah yeah, sell your land if you need money. I 1:10:18.400 --> 1:10:23.920 don't have more acres than subscribers. Yeah, oh my god, 1:10:24.760 --> 1:10:25.719 all right, well let's. 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:26.719 Get your land. 1:10:26.760 --> 1:10:29.599 It's all about this dude getting his bone. And then 1:10:29.640 --> 1:10:31.720 my thing is, like does he come jerking or do 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:32.679 they fuck after? 1:10:32.960 --> 1:10:35.760 Like you know, yeah, and like how did it? 1:10:37.120 --> 1:10:40.360 I don't know, I guess they just like how did 1:10:40.360 --> 1:10:42.320 you know that it would go from her doing it 1:10:42.360 --> 1:10:44.640 to the dogs to doing it to a kid like 1:10:44.760 --> 1:10:47.160 that immediately was a good thing that he liked to do, 1:10:47.360 --> 1:10:49.599 Like and you were okay with that, Like, but you're right, 1:10:49.640 --> 1:10:51.960 the man over everything else. I guess that's whatever. But 1:10:52.479 --> 1:11:04.160 this is fucked. But let's talk about the true crime. Sadly, 1:11:04.400 --> 1:11:07.000 I did look this up, and there is a very 1:11:07.040 --> 1:11:11.080 recent case in New Jersey. Right as they were basically 1:11:11.120 --> 1:11:14.760 shooting this episode, probably there was a case in New 1:11:14.840 --> 1:11:18.760 Jersey involving a child in Cape May, New Jersey, showed 1:11:18.800 --> 1:11:20.920 up to school with marks on their body. They don't 1:11:20.920 --> 1:11:23.240 even reveal, like the gender of this child. The child's 1:11:23.280 --> 1:11:25.880 identity is completely secret. In all the press about it. 1:11:26.560 --> 1:11:30.360 The marks were caused by a shot caller. On March seventeenth, 1:11:30.439 --> 1:11:33.160 twenty twenty five. The police directed thirty year old Kimberly 1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:36.000 Cruz Feliciano and her fifty nine year old mother, the 1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:40.080 child's grandmother, Sonya Feliciano, and the mom apparently threatened the 1:11:40.160 --> 1:11:42.919 child with more violence if they told anyone. The electric 1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:45.960 shot collar was from the family's dog, who had passed away, 1:11:46.640 --> 1:11:50.720 and then according to WPVII, the ABC affiliate in Philadelphia 1:11:50.760 --> 1:11:53.080 Slash New Jersey, the child was forced to wear the 1:11:53.120 --> 1:11:56.000 collar at all times when at home, and their mother 1:11:56.040 --> 1:11:57.760 would use it when they didn't listen or made the 1:11:57.800 --> 1:12:01.960 mother mad, so they were arrested. Cruise Feliciano was charged 1:12:02.000 --> 1:12:05.000 with two counts of second degree aggravated assault, two counts 1:12:05.000 --> 1:12:07.360 of endangering the welfare of a child, one counter first 1:12:07.360 --> 1:12:09.920 degree witness tampering with threat of force, and one count 1:12:09.920 --> 1:12:14.160 of third degree hindering. Her mother, Feliciano was charged with 1:12:14.200 --> 1:12:16.680 fourth degree hindering and fourth degree tampering with evidence, and 1:12:16.720 --> 1:12:19.080 she was released on a summons. The mother, I looked 1:12:19.080 --> 1:12:21.800 her up, is still is being held without bail. I 1:12:21.840 --> 1:12:24.160 got her on the inmate look up and it looks 1:12:24.200 --> 1:12:26.160 like no hearings have been set yet, so she's just 1:12:26.160 --> 1:12:28.120 like in jail waiting a court date with no bail. 1:12:28.720 --> 1:12:33.440 So sadly they obviously took that case as like a 1:12:33.479 --> 1:12:37.960 way to incorporate like the Shock Caller, because that is shocking, literally, 1:12:38.720 --> 1:12:41.040 And I know SVU has been on for five hundred 1:12:41.040 --> 1:12:42.519 plus episodes and they have to keep coming up with 1:12:42.560 --> 1:12:46.960 new stuff, but that's, you know, pretty horrific, but another case, 1:12:46.960 --> 1:12:50.519 so like this episode is also allegedly based on like 1:12:50.640 --> 1:12:53.240 YouTubers who abuse their children and like the rise of 1:12:53.240 --> 1:12:57.320 that happening, and like when it comes to comparing the 1:12:57.360 --> 1:13:01.080 story to like abuse of YouTubers like Ruby Frankie and 1:13:01.160 --> 1:13:03.439 Jody Hildebrant, like that case, which I'm sure many people 1:13:03.439 --> 1:13:05.479 have heard of, I do think the sv is going 1:13:05.520 --> 1:13:07.360 to do a Ruby Frankie episode, but I don't think 1:13:07.400 --> 1:13:10.200 this one is it. Like Ruby Frankie got her following 1:13:10.240 --> 1:13:13.320 from being a family blogger, started her channel in twenty fifteen, 1:13:13.360 --> 1:13:15.000 and it was all about life with her husband and 1:13:15.000 --> 1:13:17.559 six kids, and it wasn't until twenty twenty that people 1:13:17.600 --> 1:13:20.320 started to be like, the way you're disciplining the kids 1:13:20.400 --> 1:13:22.120 is like kind of fucked up, and then her channel 1:13:22.160 --> 1:13:25.080 lost popularity, then it was suspended, and then she went 1:13:25.160 --> 1:13:27.639 kind of nuts and teamed up with this woman Jody, 1:13:28.000 --> 1:13:30.720 and that's when like the abuse intensified, I think, and 1:13:30.760 --> 1:13:33.879 she was eventually arrested and convicted and she was absolutely 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:35.879 abusing her children. But I don't think people were tuning 1:13:35.920 --> 1:13:38.120 in for the abuse like in this episode, you know 1:13:38.160 --> 1:13:39.439 what I mean. So that's why I don't think it's 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:42.000 like totally related, because when people found out about what 1:13:42.120 --> 1:13:44.280 Ruby Frankie was doing, I think she lost a lot 1:13:44.280 --> 1:13:47.160 of her popularity. So I hope SVU does do something 1:13:47.160 --> 1:13:51.160 about YouTube families and like child exploitation through vlogging and stuff, 1:13:51.439 --> 1:13:53.679 but I bet they will this coming season or something. 1:13:53.720 --> 1:13:55.960 But I don't think this is closely related enough to 1:13:55.960 --> 1:13:59.320 do it. But I did come across the story of 1:13:59.320 --> 1:14:02.200 a different you To family that I felt like clicked 1:14:02.200 --> 1:14:03.840 in a little bit more and I just thought it 1:14:03.880 --> 1:14:05.439 was interesting and I hadn't really heard of it, so 1:14:05.520 --> 1:14:08.519 I thought I would research this and talk about this also. 1:14:09.040 --> 1:14:11.439 So this is the case of Michael and Heather Martin 1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:16.320 aka Family O five. So Michael and Heather Martin started 1:14:16.320 --> 1:14:19.880 a YouTube channel in twenty fifteen, which is the same 1:14:19.920 --> 1:14:22.000 time Ruby Frankie started hers, which seems like it was 1:14:22.040 --> 1:14:25.080 like kind of the golden age of like awful family vlogs, 1:14:25.080 --> 1:14:27.479 like where they started to pick up steam in the culture. Right. 1:14:27.960 --> 1:14:31.000 The channel was called Family O five. I think it 1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:34.360 was actually originally called Daddy O five and it was 1:14:34.439 --> 1:14:38.400 Michael's channel, and Heather her own channel was called Mommy 1:14:38.439 --> 1:14:41.960 O five. Later they briefly changed it to Family O five, 1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:45.879 but then it went away. But Michael and Heather met 1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:48.880 like Brady Bunch style. He had two kids from a 1:14:48.880 --> 1:14:52.400 previous marriage, a previous relationship, excuse me. He had a 1:14:52.439 --> 1:14:54.679 son named Cody and a daughter named Emma, and Heather 1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:58.040 had three sons named Jake, Ryan, and Alex. Okay, when 1:14:58.040 --> 1:15:00.960 they started the channel, they wrote on they're about page 1:15:01.000 --> 1:15:02.720 which by the way, there are channels down I had 1:15:02.760 --> 1:15:04.200 to go on the way back machine to find this, 1:15:04.640 --> 1:15:07.320 but quote, this is my crazy life. 1:15:07.360 --> 1:15:09.840 We always thought our lives would make an awesome. 1:15:09.479 --> 1:15:14.080 Movie, so we as a Capslock family, decided that's in 1:15:14.120 --> 1:15:17.120 the capslock those two words to make this YouTube channel 1:15:17.240 --> 1:15:17.720 just for fun. 1:15:17.760 --> 1:15:19.559 Thank you everyone for watching our channel. There. 1:15:19.720 --> 1:15:21.640 I want to reiterate that there is no grammar in 1:15:21.640 --> 1:15:23.599 that sentence at all. There are no commas or periods 1:15:23.680 --> 1:15:26.040 or anything. I'm just reading it as it comes. So 1:15:26.240 --> 1:15:29.040 by twenty seventeen, so they've been up and running for 1:15:29.120 --> 1:15:31.439 I don't know, eighteen months to a year. They've got 1:15:31.439 --> 1:15:34.680 about seven hundred and fifty thousand subscribers on YouTube wo 1:15:34.800 --> 1:15:37.320 so three quarters of a million people are tuning in, 1:15:37.920 --> 1:15:40.200 and it's It started out with a lot of typical 1:15:40.240 --> 1:15:43.240 family stuff, like the everyday shit that families do. But 1:15:43.280 --> 1:15:46.439 then their most popular videos were videos of them quote 1:15:46.520 --> 1:15:50.720 unquote pranking each other. And I know you don't really 1:15:50.720 --> 1:15:52.760 love pranks, right, Lisa. 1:15:52.960 --> 1:15:55.640 I like a prank here in there if the occasion 1:15:55.760 --> 1:15:58.400 or the moment presents itself for like, oh, wouldn't this 1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:02.840 be funny? I don't like constant prankers. Are people looking 1:16:02.880 --> 1:16:06.080 for pranks all the time. I think you're an untrustworthy person. 1:16:06.479 --> 1:16:08.720 But of course I like a little joke. But I 1:16:08.720 --> 1:16:09.200 think it's. 1:16:09.040 --> 1:16:11.040 Safe to say that this man also, if I think 1:16:11.200 --> 1:16:13.000 you saw his face, I think you would he would 1:16:13.040 --> 1:16:14.360 be on your top ten hit list. 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:16.080 I think you would hate this man well because it's 1:16:16.080 --> 1:16:17.280 not this family. But I watched. 1:16:17.280 --> 1:16:19.719 There was like an HBO three or four part doc 1:16:19.760 --> 1:16:22.080 on like another family that ended up adopting a boy 1:16:22.240 --> 1:16:25.000 from Asia and then like he suddenly disappeared. 1:16:25.479 --> 1:16:26.639 Yeah, stuff like that. 1:16:26.720 --> 1:16:30.880 Like like you said, this isn't people aren't tuning in 1:16:30.960 --> 1:16:34.880 for the abuse, but it's ripe for it. Yes, exactly, 1:16:35.040 --> 1:16:37.880 And I'll get into that. Like so basically, ok, their 1:16:37.960 --> 1:16:39.680 most popular view No, I'm not gonna get into that 1:16:39.680 --> 1:16:42.000 one specifically, but just the type of logging that this 1:16:42.160 --> 1:16:44.200 is and like what it does. Like their most type 1:16:44.200 --> 1:16:46.920 of videos were popular videos were these prank videos which 1:16:46.920 --> 1:16:50.879 spoiler alert, they're not pranks, like they are mostly mentally 1:16:50.920 --> 1:16:53.639 and at times physically abusive moments that are being thrust 1:16:53.680 --> 1:16:58.240 upon these children. So sadly, the youngest child, Cody, ends 1:16:58.320 --> 1:16:59.960 up being on the receiving ends of a lot of 1:17:00.160 --> 1:17:04.479 these pranks, Like there's videos of them, just like gaslighting Cody, 1:17:04.600 --> 1:17:06.800 Like one of his siblings will accuse him of doing 1:17:06.800 --> 1:17:09.400 something that he did not do or like it didn't happen, 1:17:09.920 --> 1:17:12.479 and then they'll just keep accusing him and accusing him 1:17:12.520 --> 1:17:14.360 until he gets so upset and so upset and he's 1:17:14.400 --> 1:17:17.120 like a mess and he's just begging for them to 1:17:17.120 --> 1:17:19.720 get him off camera. He'll say, take the camera out 1:17:19.760 --> 1:17:22.120 of here, and they're like, you know, we have to vlog, 1:17:22.640 --> 1:17:23.639 and it's like sick. 1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:25.800 In another in other videos. 1:17:25.439 --> 1:17:28.200 A kid like that doesn't get that this is But 1:17:28.280 --> 1:17:30.400 I feel this way when I'm just on Instagram, like 1:17:30.439 --> 1:17:33.599 even if it's not a full vlogging family, I go, did. 1:17:33.400 --> 1:17:35.360 You make the kid cry at the puppy? Is this 1:17:35.400 --> 1:17:35.800 take you? 1:17:36.400 --> 1:17:37.120 Like? Yeah? 1:17:37.200 --> 1:17:40.439 Yeah, just kind of. I don't like not knowing what's 1:17:40.439 --> 1:17:40.960 real or not. 1:17:41.320 --> 1:17:44.160 And I behind it the abuse and the force they 1:17:44.320 --> 1:17:47.920 and the month I can't Yeah, yeah, the darkness we 1:17:47.960 --> 1:17:51.120 live in. So in other videos, the dad Michael is 1:17:51.200 --> 1:17:54.080 encouraging the kids to hit and punch Cody, but he 1:17:54.200 --> 1:17:57.120 also pushed them all to slap each other across the face, 1:17:57.200 --> 1:18:00.360 like really hard. In one video, Michael screams at Cody 1:18:00.400 --> 1:18:03.439 for spilling ink and the kid is like extremely upset, 1:18:03.800 --> 1:18:05.720 and then Heather reveals the prank. Part of it is 1:18:05.720 --> 1:18:07.840 that it's invisible ink, so it's like made to look 1:18:07.920 --> 1:18:10.479 like a stain but it's not real, and it's just 1:18:10.520 --> 1:18:13.280 like making him so upset and sat It's like different, 1:18:13.960 --> 1:18:15.439 I don't know, for some reason, it's like a little 1:18:15.439 --> 1:18:17.280 bit different to me of like we ate your Halloween 1:18:17.320 --> 1:18:19.240 candy and then you quickly tell them it was a joke, 1:18:19.320 --> 1:18:20.960 you know what I mean. Like, it's like they're allowing 1:18:20.960 --> 1:18:23.320 this kid to get worked up and worked up until 1:18:23.320 --> 1:18:26.880 he's so upset, red in the face, like crying, really 1:18:26.920 --> 1:18:31.160 really upset. In one video, there is one where the 1:18:31.240 --> 1:18:34.679 dad shoves cody like face first into a bookshelf, which 1:18:34.720 --> 1:18:36.880 did cause a bloody nose and you can see blood 1:18:36.880 --> 1:18:39.240 on the kid's pillow as he's like crying and the 1:18:39.280 --> 1:18:42.760 parents were like, no, that's paint, so whatever. I was 1:18:42.840 --> 1:18:45.880 only able to access the thumbnails of the page on 1:18:45.920 --> 1:18:48.479 the way back machine, Like the videos won't play because 1:18:48.479 --> 1:18:50.880 they're down on YouTube, but the thumbnails are there, and 1:18:50.920 --> 1:18:54.000 the ones with like one million views are called like 1:18:54.200 --> 1:18:58.080 kid breaks leg prank, kid gets knocked out, kid runs 1:18:58.120 --> 1:19:02.280 away from home, Like none of these Maybe this perverts. 1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:05.160 I mean, it's like that the people that are like 1:19:05.200 --> 1:19:09.400 putting their children in positions that they know who's looking, 1:19:09.479 --> 1:19:12.960 they see who is like the fact that it says 1:19:13.160 --> 1:19:17.960 kids leg break Like yeah, I mean, well, I'll tell 1:19:18.000 --> 1:19:19.320 you what I have to click on that I would 1:19:19.360 --> 1:19:20.479 never click on something. 1:19:20.600 --> 1:19:23.519 I know I know I would never, but at this 1:19:23.680 --> 1:19:27.680 point in time, family blogging is becoming very lucrative for 1:19:27.760 --> 1:19:30.800 some people. But unlike reality stars who have like a 1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:34.000 network to answer to, or they sometimes have agents and 1:19:34.040 --> 1:19:36.960 managers and stuff, these YouTubers are on their own at 1:19:36.960 --> 1:19:39.960 this time. Like maybe they join up with other YouTubers 1:19:40.000 --> 1:19:43.519 and create like multi channel networks, but there's not really 1:19:43.880 --> 1:19:46.599 the same oversight, And they have reps from YouTube who 1:19:46.640 --> 1:19:49.719 apparently do basically nothing, Like some of them would report 1:19:49.840 --> 1:19:52.519 things to their YouTube reps and go, I'm your rep, 1:19:52.600 --> 1:19:54.240 like I can't really help other I can't really deal 1:19:54.280 --> 1:19:54.920 with other people, like. 1:19:54.920 --> 1:19:55.680 I'm just helping you. 1:19:56.120 --> 1:19:58.720 So like YouTube was fully I think, complicit in a 1:19:58.720 --> 1:19:59.840 lot of this shit at the very beginning. 1:20:00.200 --> 1:20:01.160 They've gotten stricter. 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:04.080 But but I guess they do kind of self police 1:20:04.120 --> 1:20:07.080 one another, these vloggers and family people. Because in April 1:20:07.120 --> 1:20:10.160 of twenty seventeen, after right as this family is kind 1:20:10.200 --> 1:20:13.080 of hitting the apex of their popularity, a YouTuber named 1:20:13.080 --> 1:20:16.800 Philip DeFranco posts this whole video where he shows like 1:20:16.840 --> 1:20:18.839 a super cut of a bunch of the Martin's family's 1:20:18.880 --> 1:20:21.880 worst moments, and he's like, this really seems to me, 1:20:22.040 --> 1:20:24.640 like abuse and not pranks. He's like, even if I 1:20:24.680 --> 1:20:27.439 believe this is paint, which I don't, I believe it's blood. 1:20:27.880 --> 1:20:29.559 I think you're making this kid upset. I think you 1:20:29.600 --> 1:20:32.759 pushed him into a thing, like you know. And after 1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:35.840 this expose video of DiFranco's goes up, the story really 1:20:35.840 --> 1:20:37.640 took off, and it spread off like it was in 1:20:37.680 --> 1:20:40.000 all these YouTube videos, but it was also on traditional media, 1:20:40.080 --> 1:20:42.240 like I think the BBC covered it, and the New 1:20:42.320 --> 1:20:43.759 York Posts and like all these other people. 1:20:44.000 --> 1:20:44.880 It like blows up. 1:20:45.200 --> 1:20:49.040 So YouTube responded by demonetizing their videos and only commented 1:20:49.360 --> 1:20:52.400 quote videos violating YouTube's community guidelines are removed from the 1:20:52.400 --> 1:20:56.120 platform end quote. So like they're not really responding. They're like, well, 1:20:56.160 --> 1:20:58.720 we won't pay you for them anymore, but they're still up. 1:20:59.160 --> 1:21:00.800 And then Michael claimed later that he's the one who 1:21:00.840 --> 1:21:04.679 chose to demonetize the videos. Sure, jam, So the family 1:21:05.280 --> 1:21:08.320 archived the channel and made a public apology video in 1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:10.520 which they said that most of their videos were scripted 1:21:10.640 --> 1:21:11.799 and that the kids were acting. 1:21:13.040 --> 1:21:15.559 Nobody believes this, Like nobody believes this. 1:21:15.960 --> 1:21:19.280 A CPS investigation apparently did happen in Maryland, but nothing 1:21:19.320 --> 1:21:22.120 really came of it. And then there's this whole other 1:21:22.240 --> 1:21:24.800 layer to this fucking story, which is that the mother 1:21:24.880 --> 1:21:27.880 of Michael's children, whose name is Rose Hall. She's the 1:21:27.920 --> 1:21:31.080 mother of Cody and Emma. She lives in North Carolina. 1:21:31.200 --> 1:21:34.120 She apparently had custody of the kids until twenty fourteen, 1:21:34.240 --> 1:21:38.439 when she claims that Michael and Heather forged paperwork to 1:21:38.520 --> 1:21:41.840 give them full custody and she just like lost her 1:21:41.920 --> 1:21:43.479 kids to these people. 1:21:44.040 --> 1:21:44.880 That's what she's aid. 1:21:44.920 --> 1:21:47.680 They obviously say, no, that's true, blah blah blah. But 1:21:47.760 --> 1:21:50.000 shortly after the story of the channel and the abuse 1:21:50.040 --> 1:21:53.759 blew up, Rose was given temporary custody of Emma and Cody, 1:21:54.080 --> 1:21:56.960 and an emergence after emergency custody hearing was held, so 1:21:57.000 --> 1:21:58.760 they did go back to their mom and they were 1:21:58.800 --> 1:22:01.080 taken away from the family like those parents lost custody. 1:22:01.360 --> 1:22:03.560 So New York Magazine published a big story about the 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:05.880 Martin family as this was blowing up, and they spoke 1:22:05.920 --> 1:22:08.280 to a child psychologist and for as a consultant for 1:22:08.280 --> 1:22:10.720 the State of New York named Mark Abrams. And while 1:22:10.760 --> 1:22:13.000 he thought the behavior on the videos was like quote, 1:22:13.080 --> 1:22:16.080 careless and stupid, he wasn't sure it could legally be 1:22:16.120 --> 1:22:19.880 classified as abuse. Like he's like excess corporal punishment and 1:22:20.000 --> 1:22:23.959 excess physical violence is considered abuse. How do you define 1:22:24.000 --> 1:22:26.280 excess good luck? How much money do you have to 1:22:26.280 --> 1:22:30.160 spend on a lawyer? So it's like and this is 1:22:30.200 --> 1:22:33.639 also in twenty seventeen, so it's like eight years ago. 1:22:33.720 --> 1:22:36.400 I think people are more vigilant now about maybe like 1:22:36.439 --> 1:22:40.160 what is coming across as sketchy. The New York Magazine 1:22:40.240 --> 1:22:43.519 article also mentions this YouTube channel where these young girls 1:22:43.560 --> 1:22:47.160 ages eight to twelve play quote unquote bad babies. And 1:22:47.200 --> 1:22:50.760 these videos show them like quote making messes, throwing tantrums, 1:22:50.800 --> 1:22:54.920 being harshly scolded, acting out repeated body horrors, or being 1:22:55.040 --> 1:22:58.760 watched by aggling monsters while sleeping, and these routinely were 1:22:58.760 --> 1:23:01.519 getting hundreds of millions of u use a month. But 1:23:02.200 --> 1:23:04.760 the difference is these girls are clearly acting like these 1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:07.439 girls are acting like babies, like they're really acting, and 1:23:07.479 --> 1:23:09.800 the Martin kids do not seem like they're acting like 1:23:09.880 --> 1:23:13.559 this is their lives. And even if they were at 1:23:13.560 --> 1:23:16.200 that time, exploiting your kids on YouTube with their quote 1:23:16.240 --> 1:23:19.839 unquote acting was basically unregulated. I mean, they just recently 1:23:19.920 --> 1:23:23.880 made like legislation about like influencers, and I think only 1:23:23.920 --> 1:23:25.799 in Utah, Like I don't even know if it's everywhere. 1:23:25.840 --> 1:23:27.759 It's like just in Utah because that's where so many 1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:32.160 family vloggers are based. The Martin family made somewhere between 1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:34.400 two hundred thousand and three hund fifty thousand dollars a year. 1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:37.840 Well, No, Illinois was the first state where you'd have 1:23:38.080 --> 1:23:41.360 like the kids get their own money. Oh okay, and 1:23:41.400 --> 1:23:43.639 I think California, And that's why they all leave the states, 1:23:43.640 --> 1:23:45.679 Like that's why. That's how you know the parents are evil. 1:23:46.040 --> 1:23:48.280 As soon as these laws pop up, the parents leave 1:23:48.280 --> 1:23:49.080 and go to a different state. 1:23:49.280 --> 1:23:49.639 Fucked. 1:23:49.760 --> 1:23:52.400 Yeah, it's like why people in Florida, Nevada don't want 1:23:52.400 --> 1:23:55.720 to pay taxes tex Like people like, right, you know 1:23:55.720 --> 1:23:56.120 what I mean? 1:23:56.200 --> 1:23:59.240 You move to places like that should be a sign, Right, 1:24:00.400 --> 1:24:01.040 that's crazy. 1:24:01.040 --> 1:24:03.599 I didn't even know that the Martin family made somewhere 1:24:03.640 --> 1:24:05.680 between two hundred k and three hundred fifty KA a 1:24:05.720 --> 1:24:07.880 year on this channel. But none of that was being 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:10.559 formally earned by the children, like what you're saying. So 1:24:11.000 --> 1:24:13.880 if the Martin kids ever said anything nice about their parents, 1:24:13.920 --> 1:24:16.360 it always seemed like financial reward. Was behind it, like 1:24:16.880 --> 1:24:19.559 they knew xboxes, tablets. All the shit that they were 1:24:19.560 --> 1:24:22.960 getting was coming from their vlogging. And the parents all 1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:27.040 claim they loved being Internet sensations, like they loved being 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:27.719 big on the internet. 1:24:27.720 --> 1:24:29.479 They would loved watching the view counts go up on 1:24:29.520 --> 1:24:30.040 their videos. 1:24:30.040 --> 1:24:32.519 And it's like, yeah, just because they like something doesn't 1:24:32.560 --> 1:24:34.280 mean it's good for them. They probably like chocolate ice 1:24:34.360 --> 1:24:36.120 cream too, you shouldn't give it to them for three 1:24:36.200 --> 1:24:39.600 meals a day. In September of twenty seventeen, Michael and 1:24:39.640 --> 1:24:41.920 Heather were found guilty of child neglect after they both 1:24:42.040 --> 1:24:45.759 entered alfred please to misdemeanor counts of neglect of a minor. 1:24:46.040 --> 1:24:47.960 So we've talked about this, but an alfred please when 1:24:47.960 --> 1:24:50.120 you don't admit guilt, but you know that the prosecutors 1:24:50.120 --> 1:24:54.200 have enough to convict, so just a reminder. So they 1:24:54.200 --> 1:24:58.400 were both sentenced for five years for each count, but 1:24:58.439 --> 1:25:01.400 then the judge suspended the and they both got five 1:25:01.479 --> 1:25:05.840 years of supervised probation. The prosecutor introduced expert testimony from 1:25:05.840 --> 1:25:06.600 a psychologist. 1:25:07.600 --> 1:25:11.440 I don't know why give them less. I don't understand. 1:25:12.240 --> 1:25:14.400 I think they probably thought that their three kids were 1:25:14.400 --> 1:25:18.040 probably gonna have to go. They they seemed apologetic. It 1:25:18.080 --> 1:25:21.640 was their first defense. Like, the only offense that's like 1:25:21.760 --> 1:25:25.639 physical is the pushing into the shelf that I talked about, 1:25:25.680 --> 1:25:30.080 I think, which may have been they could argue it's 1:25:30.080 --> 1:25:31.800 an accident. I'm not saying any of this is right. 1:25:31.880 --> 1:25:33.720 I'm just saying how they would have argued it in 1:25:33.840 --> 1:25:35.320 like court. You know what I mean, you told the 1:25:35.439 --> 1:25:39.200 judge to do it. Yeah, I actually was representing the parents. No, 1:25:39.280 --> 1:25:44.439 But like, I don't think it's like at the time, Well, 1:25:44.479 --> 1:25:47.760 basically what happened was the prosecutor introduced expert testimony from 1:25:47.800 --> 1:25:50.519 a psychologist who said that both kids suffered emotional trauma 1:25:50.520 --> 1:25:53.320 from being in the videos, and the prosecul lator said, like, 1:25:53.360 --> 1:25:57.479 they never would have gotten this conviction if it wasn't 1:25:57.520 --> 1:26:02.840 for the expert testimony, a psychologist testifying to the trauma. So, 1:26:02.920 --> 1:26:05.879 but I do not understand why the sentence was suspended 1:26:05.920 --> 1:26:08.519 except I'm only thinking they were thinking, well, that puts 1:26:08.560 --> 1:26:12.120 three kids in foster care. And these people are apologetic 1:26:12.200 --> 1:26:14.360 and said that they like they were. Obviously they were 1:26:14.439 --> 1:26:17.080 ordered to stay away from these two other children. They 1:26:17.160 --> 1:26:20.600 were not allowed to have social media or be on 1:26:20.680 --> 1:26:24.040 any kind of social media with for any of the five, 1:26:24.360 --> 1:26:29.240 like the five year probation. So Heather Martin said later 1:26:29.360 --> 1:26:32.439 in a statement, we realized that we made some terrible 1:26:32.439 --> 1:26:34.800 parenting decisions. We wanted our kids to be happy, and 1:26:34.840 --> 1:26:37.360 we went about it the wrong way. Like they thought, oh, 1:26:37.360 --> 1:26:39.400 we're making money for them, we're buying them xboxes, We're 1:26:39.400 --> 1:26:40.960 doing this, and like, I just don't think that they 1:26:41.000 --> 1:26:44.000 at all were tuned into how fucking traumatic this was, 1:26:44.600 --> 1:26:45.679 especially for Cody. 1:26:45.720 --> 1:26:47.320 Why is it all on this little boy? 1:26:47.520 --> 1:26:49.200 Why is he the butt of every joke because he's 1:26:49.240 --> 1:26:52.519 a little list Like, that's crazy. I don't know. So 1:26:52.560 --> 1:26:53.840 I was trying to find out what's going on with 1:26:53.840 --> 1:26:57.840 these people. They obviously twenty seventeen, they stayed away from 1:26:57.880 --> 1:27:02.000 social media for five years. Twenty nineteen, Michael tried to 1:27:02.000 --> 1:27:05.479 become a SoundCloud wrapper named Mikey m Sadly, I found 1:27:05.479 --> 1:27:08.360 their website where they are continuing to blog and vlog. 1:27:08.720 --> 1:27:11.960 The website features heather sons, the three boys, who I 1:27:12.000 --> 1:27:14.519 think are now like eighteen, twenty one, and twenty four, 1:27:14.600 --> 1:27:17.080 and the couple now has a young son together named 1:27:17.120 --> 1:27:20.200 Mikey Junior, who I think is like seven or eight. 1:27:20.240 --> 1:27:23.519 At this point, I can't tell how old their website is. 1:27:23.520 --> 1:27:25.559 She has like a blog post up from twenty twenty 1:27:25.560 --> 1:27:28.360 three where she denies everything that's been spread about her 1:27:28.880 --> 1:27:31.679 them stealing the kids away with the flat fraudulent documents. 1:27:31.840 --> 1:27:33.880 I mean, it's like crazy. It's in like multiple fonts, 1:27:33.920 --> 1:27:35.960 like it's all long. It's very long. I couldn't read 1:27:35.960 --> 1:27:39.439 all of it. Their oldest son, Jake. I found his 1:27:39.560 --> 1:27:42.719 social media following. He goes by baby Don. I believe 1:27:42.720 --> 1:27:45.120 he's about twenty four. He goes by baby Don. He 1:27:45.160 --> 1:27:48.040 has thirty thousand followers on Instagram and eighty thousand on 1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:51.519 TikTok TikTok excuse me, and on TikTok he still makes 1:27:51.520 --> 1:27:54.000 some videos that feature his dad and like people will 1:27:54.080 --> 1:27:56.679 leave comments like oh I was a big Daddyo five 1:27:56.720 --> 1:28:00.200 fan or whatever, but like their channels and all that 1:28:00.200 --> 1:28:01.160 shit has gone. 1:28:00.880 --> 1:28:03.880 Now and the kid at Baby Dawn. 1:28:04.400 --> 1:28:07.639 He did go on Doctor Phil in twenty twenty four 1:28:07.720 --> 1:28:10.000 to tell his story, I guess, but I couldn't find it, 1:28:10.080 --> 1:28:12.559 and or maybe I could find it and I didn't 1:28:12.560 --> 1:28:14.640 want to hear it. But he also looks like he's 1:28:14.680 --> 1:28:16.960 trying to wrap the sun so. 1:28:18.880 --> 1:28:19.320 That's that. 1:28:19.880 --> 1:28:21.800 But I mean, this is the closest that I could 1:28:21.800 --> 1:28:26.120 see that comes to like abusing kids online for views 1:28:26.160 --> 1:28:30.280 for that specific reason, like, and these people claim to 1:28:30.360 --> 1:28:32.400 have not known that they were really doing that. So 1:28:32.640 --> 1:28:36.839 obviously it's a very big jump to shot collars sleeping 1:28:36.880 --> 1:28:40.519 in a dog bed, you know, being malnourished and all 1:28:40.560 --> 1:28:43.080 that stuff. Although some of that plays into the Ruby 1:28:43.080 --> 1:28:45.839 Frankie stuff, which will we'll cover that at someday. 1:28:45.920 --> 1:28:47.000 But I didn't think that this. 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:50.800 I know, sometimes with current things happening, people will want 1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:53.479 to talk about Idaho or and I'm like, I'm not 1:28:53.720 --> 1:28:55.600 looking into it until there's an episode I go. 1:28:55.720 --> 1:28:57.960 I know, I'm about to do full on research. I 1:28:58.000 --> 1:28:58.720 gotta just wait. 1:28:58.800 --> 1:29:00.839 Yeah, yeah, yeah, let it. Yeah. 1:29:00.920 --> 1:29:03.519 But I did see a preview for the yogurt shop, 1:29:03.760 --> 1:29:06.800 like frozen yogurt murders for women. Four girls were like 1:29:06.880 --> 1:29:10.559 murdered in this yogurt shop, and there's gonna be a 1:29:10.560 --> 1:29:12.200 four part doc or something on HBO. 1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:16.000 I'm not heard of that at all, Yeah, exactly. 1:29:16.520 --> 1:29:19.040 So I see the posts on Instagram and I'm getting 1:29:19.040 --> 1:29:20.680 info and then I always look at comments, and one 1:29:20.720 --> 1:29:24.440 of the comments was like ugh, another documentary with regurgitated 1:29:24.520 --> 1:29:27.360 information and nothing new and blah Blah'm like regurgitated. 1:29:27.400 --> 1:29:28.959 I've never I don't ever about. 1:29:28.840 --> 1:29:31.040 Of this like this anything like this is like the 1:29:31.120 --> 1:29:34.280 tenth Manson family doc you've seen come on, Like I 1:29:34.280 --> 1:29:36.400 get with John Bday, but like it's like, I've never 1:29:36.479 --> 1:29:39.719 heard of these murder but they obviously is like this history. 1:29:39.720 --> 1:29:41.200 I don't even know if it's solved, but it's like 1:29:41.479 --> 1:29:44.080 to be annoyed by this thing where it's like, well. 1:29:43.920 --> 1:29:45.280 You don't even know if there's going to be new 1:29:45.320 --> 1:29:46.160 information yet. 1:29:46.200 --> 1:29:50.840 But yeah, it was like maybe I don't know about it, 1:29:50.920 --> 1:29:52.400 so to me, I want all the information. 1:29:53.840 --> 1:29:55.240 Well I'm excited. 1:29:55.280 --> 1:29:57.599 Maybe they'll do a yogurt shop murder on his view too, 1:29:57.640 --> 1:29:59.240 because that is kind of the only way I'm finding 1:29:59.240 --> 1:30:01.000 out about new crime unless it's Karen Reid. 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:02.559 I mean, maybe they'll do a Karen Reid. But then 1:30:02.600 --> 1:30:04.160 I are that's another one. I'm like Kringus. 1:30:04.160 --> 1:30:06.120 That's a lot that involves a lot of cop corruption. 1:30:06.360 --> 1:30:09.120 So they've got to like either move the corruption to 1:30:09.160 --> 1:30:10.880 a different industry or I don't know what they're gonna do. 1:30:10.960 --> 1:30:13.240 Now, there's always corrupt cops. 1:30:13.320 --> 1:30:15.519 Yes you are the heroes, so it's like they just 1:30:15.600 --> 1:30:17.920 have to like fa you know, it's a different jurisdiction 1:30:18.000 --> 1:30:20.240 of cops. We've had bad cops in Brooklyn and the 1:30:20.280 --> 1:30:26.400 Bronx and in different sharnits. Yeah, but there's something about 1:30:26.520 --> 1:30:27.120 Karen Reid. 1:30:27.840 --> 1:30:28.559 Karen Reid. 1:30:28.920 --> 1:30:32.360 All right, listen, let's get to our interview because it's 1:30:32.400 --> 1:30:42.599 a good one. Our guest today is an actor who 1:30:42.680 --> 1:30:45.439 you may have seen on FBI Most Wanted or in 1:30:45.479 --> 1:30:48.719 her recent one woman show that she's touring all around 1:30:48.800 --> 1:30:51.200 called How to Find a Husband in thirty seven years 1:30:51.280 --> 1:30:54.400 or longer. But you know her today for her terrifying 1:30:54.479 --> 1:30:57.840 turn as the evil Nicole Carr. Would please enjoy our 1:30:57.880 --> 1:30:59.960 convo with the delightful JJ Pile. 1:31:00.840 --> 1:31:03.120 Hello, Hi, Hi. 1:31:04.320 --> 1:31:07.799 You're like you so friendly with a high pitched voice. 1:31:07.840 --> 1:31:09.640 You are so scary in this episode. 1:31:10.000 --> 1:31:13.160 Oh my god, I know, I can't even recognize myself 1:31:13.200 --> 1:31:13.960 when I watch that. 1:31:14.600 --> 1:31:17.360 I know it's acting, but I am put at ease 1:31:17.400 --> 1:31:20.519 and comfort now that I see your full energy. 1:31:21.200 --> 1:31:23.519 Yes, good, it's it's completely the opposite of me. 1:31:23.800 --> 1:31:27.080 It is like, it is such a dark episode. But 1:31:27.400 --> 1:31:29.080 I know because we watched you. 1:31:29.520 --> 1:31:32.360 All, but this news, this one was definitely one of 1:31:32.400 --> 1:31:37.559 the crazier ones of the New era. I would say, Okay, 1:31:37.760 --> 1:31:40.960 it really made me upset. I think it's because you 1:31:41.000 --> 1:31:42.759 see the little girl get shocked or something. 1:31:42.800 --> 1:31:43.240 I don't know. 1:31:43.400 --> 1:31:47.400 I really bad day with Harry. That day of shooting 1:31:47.520 --> 1:31:49.400 was like crazy, a little crazy. 1:31:49.520 --> 1:31:51.640 Well tell us about it, yeah, tell it well, tell us. 1:31:51.640 --> 1:31:54.000 Okay, will you start with like the beginning of like You, 1:31:54.040 --> 1:31:57.000 because you've told us that you had auditioned for us 1:31:57.040 --> 1:31:58.120 for You a bunch of times. 1:31:58.240 --> 1:32:02.120 Right, Yes, I've been auditioning for SVU for fifteen years. 1:32:02.200 --> 1:32:04.200 Oh my god happened? 1:32:04.560 --> 1:32:05.200 Oh my god. 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:08.760 So I the first one I went in for I 1:32:08.800 --> 1:32:10.760 had just moved to New York. And I mean I'd 1:32:10.800 --> 1:32:12.559 been here about a year and I had come from La. 1:32:12.760 --> 1:32:14.719 So in La you can knot get an audition without 1:32:14.720 --> 1:32:18.320 an agent. And as for You, I I was getting 1:32:18.320 --> 1:32:20.840 the breakdowns illegally, like back then you could pay somebody 1:32:20.920 --> 1:32:23.280 twenty bucks a month and you could get the breakdowns. 1:32:24.080 --> 1:32:27.840 So I would go through the breakdowns and I would 1:32:27.960 --> 1:32:31.080 mail my headshot to as for You, like in that 1:32:31.280 --> 1:32:34.200 envelope that had like a clear, clear front that they 1:32:34.280 --> 1:32:37.599 used to have. And then I realized I'm not getting 1:32:37.600 --> 1:32:40.080 it there fast enough. So I would trek over there 1:32:40.520 --> 1:32:43.080 to Chelsea Piers and there was a little box outside 1:32:43.120 --> 1:32:45.080 the door you could put your headshot in. So my 1:32:45.200 --> 1:32:48.400 first call, I got a pre read with Jonathan Strauss. 1:32:48.400 --> 1:32:50.320 And this was before they even put you on camera. 1:32:50.439 --> 1:32:52.920 That's how long I've been auditioning for this show. So 1:32:53.280 --> 1:32:55.200 he didn't put me on camera, and I probably did 1:32:55.200 --> 1:32:59.400 some weird actor acting class you know, relaxation, uh, you know, 1:32:59.479 --> 1:33:02.559 kind of like like voiced up, and then he was like, okay, 1:33:02.640 --> 1:33:06.160 don't do that, and he was like, take your hair 1:33:06.200 --> 1:33:09.599 down and take a breath and take your time. And 1:33:09.640 --> 1:33:12.920 then they called me back to to be put on 1:33:12.960 --> 1:33:16.080 camera with Phil Huffman. So that was the first one 1:33:16.120 --> 1:33:18.720 and I didn't go any further. And that was for 1:33:18.800 --> 1:33:23.160 a one legged prostitute. We sold me her leg, Yeah, 1:33:23.200 --> 1:33:24.920 who sold her leg for drugs? 1:33:25.240 --> 1:33:26.880 That is an amazing first one. 1:33:27.520 --> 1:33:30.479 I have watched that one though, so then I think 1:33:30.520 --> 1:33:32.800 the second or third one. I tried to go back 1:33:32.800 --> 1:33:34.160 and look them all up for you guys so I 1:33:34.160 --> 1:33:35.160 could remember all the care. 1:33:35.960 --> 1:33:38.519 We're so honored, thank you for the pre work, so 1:33:38.640 --> 1:33:39.240 much work. 1:33:39.320 --> 1:33:41.920 Yeah, I had the idea that someday I would do 1:33:41.960 --> 1:33:44.559 like a solo show with all of my SVU audition 1:33:44.720 --> 1:33:46.680 characters doing a scene together. 1:33:46.840 --> 1:33:48.960 Yeah, that's a funny idea. 1:33:49.760 --> 1:33:52.599 So then the next one was like, actually a story 1:33:52.920 --> 1:33:55.840 I think from Indiana and I'm from Indiana where it 1:33:55.960 --> 1:33:59.240 was a guy who kidnapped all these women. There were 1:33:59.280 --> 1:34:01.200 like three or four of them, and then he had 1:34:01.240 --> 1:34:04.599 actually kept them for like ten years. Oh yeah, yeah, 1:34:04.600 --> 1:34:07.160 and it was at Ohio, okay good, and he had 1:34:07.200 --> 1:34:09.760 a baby with one of them. So I got called 1:34:09.800 --> 1:34:12.519 back for the least part, the least co star part, 1:34:13.080 --> 1:34:16.800 and they gave me like the story bits. They gave 1:34:16.880 --> 1:34:19.720 me like a speech impediment tape that they wanted me 1:34:19.760 --> 1:34:21.200 to try to you know, they gave me a lot 1:34:21.200 --> 1:34:23.759 of information. Now they don't give you that much information. 1:34:24.120 --> 1:34:26.519 And so I went in for that co star and 1:34:26.560 --> 1:34:28.200 then they called me back for the guest star with 1:34:28.240 --> 1:34:30.799 the part of the bigger girl who had the baby 1:34:30.800 --> 1:34:34.120 with the guy. So that was my biggest like and 1:34:34.200 --> 1:34:36.240 that was you go to prereads, you go to camera, 1:34:36.320 --> 1:34:38.439 you go to producers twice like that was my. 1:34:38.960 --> 1:34:40.200 Oh you got so close. 1:34:40.560 --> 1:34:41.479 I got so close. 1:34:41.560 --> 1:34:44.160 And he even sent me a they'll even sent me 1:34:44.800 --> 1:34:47.200 an email saying it's not going your way this time. 1:34:47.200 --> 1:34:49.320 But you impressed our producers. So that was like two 1:34:49.400 --> 1:34:50.439 or three. 1:34:50.120 --> 1:34:54.000 And then like I don't know, twenty characters later and 1:34:54.200 --> 1:34:54.840 here I am. 1:34:55.040 --> 1:34:57.920 And then God blessed the broken road that brought you 1:34:57.960 --> 1:34:59.160 to Nicole car Wood. 1:34:59.280 --> 1:35:03.600 That's what. Because you nailed it. You nailed it. 1:35:03.680 --> 1:35:05.320 Fake you, thank you, thank you. 1:35:05.360 --> 1:35:07.760 There's one moment where you kind of like purse your 1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:11.000 lips and look at Careesy or someone asking you questions, 1:35:11.000 --> 1:35:14.000 and I was like, oh my god, I like rewound it. 1:35:14.000 --> 1:35:14.719 It was so good. 1:35:15.280 --> 1:35:17.599 The thing was too, is that like I had never 1:35:17.720 --> 1:35:21.120 had scenes with all the leads like I had the 1:35:21.200 --> 1:35:23.240 auditions had been with like you know, I had a 1:35:23.320 --> 1:35:28.080 scene one time in a laundry room with with rawlins 1:35:28.720 --> 1:35:31.639 and but and one was like an undercover cop eating 1:35:31.640 --> 1:35:33.960 out of a trash can and that was really that 1:35:34.120 --> 1:35:37.760 was really fun to tape, you know. And one was 1:35:37.800 --> 1:35:43.479 like uh, long Island mom who was like had these 1:35:43.520 --> 1:35:46.160 long fake nails and she was scratching her lottery tickets 1:35:46.160 --> 1:35:46.839 with her nails. 1:35:47.240 --> 1:35:49.200 Like there was some really fun ones. 1:35:49.240 --> 1:35:52.879 But I had never had an audition with all the leads, 1:35:53.320 --> 1:35:57.679 and then I do I do think the fifteen years 1:35:57.680 --> 1:35:58.720 got me to the best one. 1:35:59.320 --> 1:36:01.840 Yeah, because to like talk shit to Maura, you had 1:36:01.840 --> 1:36:04.439 to talk shit to Benson and be like I decide 1:36:04.520 --> 1:36:07.360 or whatever, Like you know, I love how unhinged your 1:36:07.439 --> 1:36:09.919 character is, like she's been caught doing the most psychotic 1:36:09.960 --> 1:36:10.920 thing and then she comes in and. 1:36:10.880 --> 1:36:13.720 Acts like why is everybody bothering me? 1:36:14.000 --> 1:36:15.880 Like you know, I just like I know. 1:36:16.120 --> 1:36:18.760 Like the control of it too, And how quickly your 1:36:18.840 --> 1:36:22.800 character turns on her husband just like he doesn't even exist, 1:36:23.000 --> 1:36:26.080 but you were willing to like kill your child for it. 1:36:26.760 --> 1:36:29.000 And Skyler was great, Like we hung out the whole time, 1:36:29.080 --> 1:36:31.360 the guy who played my husband, but we never had 1:36:31.360 --> 1:36:33.160 any scenes together except. 1:36:32.920 --> 1:36:35.639 For just like they interrogate you totally separately and everything. 1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:36.120 Yeah. 1:36:36.200 --> 1:36:38.800 Yeah, I mean we had the like kidnapping the girl 1:36:38.920 --> 1:36:40.760 day like in the van and stuff, but we never 1:36:40.920 --> 1:36:42.759 we never talked to each other in a scene. 1:36:42.840 --> 1:36:45.599 No, but you shot him because that's actually where we 1:36:45.640 --> 1:36:48.160 meet your character is you have a gun under your chin? 1:36:48.720 --> 1:36:52.040 Yes, And I will tell you about that scene, please, Okay. 1:36:52.880 --> 1:36:55.519 So in the script, so this is the first day 1:36:55.560 --> 1:36:58.080 I had met Marishka and all the stars I hadn't 1:36:58.120 --> 1:37:01.840 had a scene with him yet so well, and in 1:37:01.880 --> 1:37:06.160 the script it said there was no dialogue. It said 1:37:06.680 --> 1:37:10.000 eye contact, eye contact, she has a gun to her head. 1:37:10.280 --> 1:37:15.160 It's an intense standoff NYPD, and so there was no dialogue. 1:37:15.200 --> 1:37:18.840 So I hadn't prepared or like worked on anything. And 1:37:18.880 --> 1:37:21.600 I'm like, you know, I'm in the Strasburg cult. So 1:37:21.680 --> 1:37:23.320 my teacher would get mad for me me saying that. 1:37:23.360 --> 1:37:27.160 But I'm in the Strasburg people, and I need to 1:37:27.200 --> 1:37:28.920 work on things before I do them. 1:37:28.960 --> 1:37:30.880 But I don't really I just am in my head, 1:37:30.920 --> 1:37:31.160 you know. 1:37:31.479 --> 1:37:34.920 So I hadn't really prepared or worked on this, and 1:37:34.960 --> 1:37:35.360 he's like. 1:37:35.640 --> 1:37:37.360 The director, Norberto was great. 1:37:37.400 --> 1:37:39.599 He was like, j J, just throw out some lines 1:37:39.640 --> 1:37:42.639 here and I'm like, what, what what do you mean? 1:37:42.720 --> 1:37:45.200 Like you want me to improv a murder suicide? I 1:37:45.240 --> 1:37:48.080 don't know what to say. And he was like, I 1:37:48.080 --> 1:37:51.040 don't know, just say leave me alone, get. 1:37:50.880 --> 1:37:51.320 Out of here. 1:37:51.400 --> 1:37:55.240 And I'm like, what say that in this situation? 1:37:55.920 --> 1:38:01.559 And then they do a take and she comes in NYBB, 1:38:01.720 --> 1:38:04.120 they bust in. So I feel like, they make you 1:38:04.160 --> 1:38:06.439 do a take so they see what they're working with. 1:38:06.920 --> 1:38:09.479 So we did the whole thing and it was definitely 1:38:09.479 --> 1:38:12.080 not to the level it needed to be. And then 1:38:12.479 --> 1:38:16.719 he's like cut and she's like, Hi, I'm Marishika. 1:38:16.880 --> 1:38:17.879 Like that's the first time. 1:38:17.800 --> 1:38:23.760 She said, Oh my god, Oh my god. You're like, 1:38:23.840 --> 1:38:25.400 let me just put the gun down so I can 1:38:25.439 --> 1:38:26.120 shake your hand. 1:38:26.200 --> 1:38:26.679 What's up. 1:38:26.720 --> 1:38:28.599 But then they were great, like she's on one side 1:38:28.600 --> 1:38:30.599 of me and he's on the other, and they would 1:38:30.640 --> 1:38:32.760 just be like he'd be like say this and she'd 1:38:32.800 --> 1:38:35.640 be like say this. And at one point, can I 1:38:35.840 --> 1:38:36.719 can I say the effort? 1:38:36.920 --> 1:38:38.160 Oh yeah, as much as you want. 1:38:38.400 --> 1:38:40.280 Yeah, I have been listening to you guys podcast, so 1:38:40.280 --> 1:38:41.519 I thought so. 1:38:41.760 --> 1:38:44.680 At one point he says, get the fuck away from me, 1:38:45.000 --> 1:38:46.559 and I was like, get the fuck away from me. 1:38:46.960 --> 1:38:50.479 And then after they caught it, the script supervisor came 1:38:50.520 --> 1:38:52.280 around and she whispered in my ear. She's like, you 1:38:52.320 --> 1:38:55.960 can't say fuck, And I'm like, oh, that was like direction. 1:38:56.120 --> 1:39:00.280 That wasn't telling me actually to say. Also, I could 1:39:00.320 --> 1:39:04.160 not touch the child with the shot caller, Like when 1:39:04.160 --> 1:39:07.439 I turn around to do to do the shock, I 1:39:07.479 --> 1:39:10.000 didn't even have it in my hand, like really, yeah, 1:39:10.040 --> 1:39:11.479 Like the legal people were all over that. 1:39:11.560 --> 1:39:13.080 There were like so many rules like. 1:39:13.479 --> 1:39:17.320 Yes, tell us about the details of the like other 1:39:17.960 --> 1:39:20.400 how they kept her not knowing everything. 1:39:20.439 --> 1:39:22.720 Did she know the storyline? She's very precocious. 1:39:22.760 --> 1:39:27.200 I imagine she knew the storyline and she was into it. 1:39:27.600 --> 1:39:31.679 She was into it so terrified. She was great, Actually, 1:39:32.320 --> 1:39:34.519 she was great. Was really freaking me out. 1:39:35.240 --> 1:39:37.240 She was great. She gutshould get her on here. I 1:39:37.240 --> 1:39:39.000 saw her on a TV show the other day. I 1:39:39.040 --> 1:39:41.280 was like, that's my that's my it's not my daughter, 1:39:41.320 --> 1:39:43.479 my kid. I did after her. 1:39:44.680 --> 1:39:45.280 She was great. 1:39:45.320 --> 1:39:47.000 She wanted to and her mom told me that she 1:39:47.040 --> 1:39:49.360 wants to do all the dark stuff like when we 1:39:49.360 --> 1:39:52.080 were kids. When we were she just went for it. 1:39:52.400 --> 1:39:53.880 I mean they had to take her back a little 1:39:53.880 --> 1:39:56.240 bit like when she was when we were kidnapping her. 1:39:56.280 --> 1:39:58.759 She was struggling with me and just like fighting fighting 1:39:58.800 --> 1:40:01.880 against me, and director would be like a little less. 1:40:03.840 --> 1:40:04.519 She loved it. 1:40:05.400 --> 1:40:06.000 She loved it. 1:40:06.120 --> 1:40:08.960 How was your interactions when it was like cut, Like, 1:40:09.000 --> 1:40:10.400 were you guys kind of chummy? 1:40:10.439 --> 1:40:11.960 Did you keep separate to. 1:40:12.040 --> 1:40:13.679 Like so chummy? 1:40:13.760 --> 1:40:16.320 She was like, we'd take selfies, we'd like hang out 1:40:16.520 --> 1:40:17.400 like we're like. 1:40:17.320 --> 1:40:17.920 That was fun. 1:40:18.880 --> 1:40:21.360 Yeah, you gotta keep it lighter. I feel like it's 1:40:21.479 --> 1:40:24.000 probably so scary for kids. 1:40:24.560 --> 1:40:27.680 I had a stun double, but that was supposed to 1:40:27.720 --> 1:40:30.080 drive the car, and I've had one on a movie 1:40:30.080 --> 1:40:32.479 one time before, so that's the first time. It wasn't 1:40:32.479 --> 1:40:34.840 the first time, so I didn't have I wasn't as like, 1:40:34.920 --> 1:40:36.280 oh my god, I have stunt double, you know. 1:40:36.320 --> 1:40:37.599 But they were supposed to drive the. 1:40:37.560 --> 1:40:41.920 Car around the block, and the director was like, keep going. 1:40:42.000 --> 1:40:44.800 So I drove the car around the block. But they 1:40:44.840 --> 1:40:47.479 had a dummy child that was dressed like her in 1:40:47.520 --> 1:40:50.840 the back seat, which which I had. They moved really 1:40:50.880 --> 1:40:54.600 fast on SPU, so I hadn't really turned around to 1:40:54.760 --> 1:40:56.920 look at the child because I also, I drive, but 1:40:57.000 --> 1:40:59.080 I don't drive in New York, so I was like, oh, 1:40:59.120 --> 1:41:00.000 I'm driving in New York. 1:41:00.080 --> 1:41:01.559 I had to, you know, pay attention. 1:41:01.920 --> 1:41:04.799 So I didn't turn around and look at the dummy 1:41:04.880 --> 1:41:07.600 child in the back until I had gotten all the 1:41:07.600 --> 1:41:09.720 way around the block. And then I was a little like, 1:41:09.880 --> 1:41:15.040 oh my god, that's so fair, very creepy. 1:41:15.800 --> 1:41:19.360 And you know what else, this is not even that specific. 1:41:19.560 --> 1:41:23.599 They only had a few hundred subscribers, like I remember 1:41:23.600 --> 1:41:25.960 them saying that, and I was like, all this for 1:41:26.040 --> 1:41:26.960 a few hundred. 1:41:26.680 --> 1:41:28.919 People, I have a lot to say. When we actually 1:41:29.360 --> 1:41:31.040 read episode, I'm like. 1:41:32.479 --> 1:41:39.840 There were some holes in the script I had that 1:41:39.960 --> 1:41:40.519 I had. 1:41:40.360 --> 1:41:42.400 To like, you know, backstory it up for myself. 1:41:42.680 --> 1:41:46.000 I mean, I just this short version of it was 1:41:46.120 --> 1:41:48.880 just like that I came from money and you know, 1:41:48.960 --> 1:41:52.160 had issues with my family, and you know, I married 1:41:52.160 --> 1:41:54.720 this guy who I'm completely obsessed with, and we you know, 1:41:54.840 --> 1:41:58.360 partied together and and he started after we had a kid. 1:41:58.439 --> 1:41:59.800 You know, it was getting to that point where like 1:42:00.000 --> 1:42:02.639 we have to have a kid or not. And then 1:42:02.920 --> 1:42:05.400 so it was like, okay, let's just try it. Like 1:42:05.479 --> 1:42:08.120 we never were committed to it, and then he started 1:42:08.160 --> 1:42:10.400 to and you never loved your kid as much as 1:42:10.400 --> 1:42:15.000 the dogs, No, and I and I lost the fun, 1:42:15.080 --> 1:42:20.160 fun party part of my husband like went away, started 1:42:20.200 --> 1:42:21.680 to go away, and I didn't know how to get 1:42:21.680 --> 1:42:22.040 it back. 1:42:22.080 --> 1:42:23.400 And I had some like resentment. 1:42:23.960 --> 1:42:26.519 You know, we were like sexually devious all this stuff 1:42:26.560 --> 1:42:28.800 and had a lot of fun together. And then but 1:42:29.000 --> 1:42:31.800 he you know, we had a little bit of money. Somehow, 1:42:31.800 --> 1:42:34.400 we couldn't have been provided, we couldn't have been supporting 1:42:34.400 --> 1:42:38.240 ourselves on these rottweilers, right, and he wasn't working that hard. 1:42:38.280 --> 1:42:42.040 And then he he lost it for me after we 1:42:42.080 --> 1:42:44.240 had the kid. He lost his passion for me. 1:42:44.320 --> 1:42:48.519 And Bill he's disciplining that doggie. Wow. 1:42:48.760 --> 1:42:50.479 And then I wanted to get it and then I 1:42:50.520 --> 1:42:53.800 wanted to get that back, and you know, so I 1:42:53.880 --> 1:42:56.680 had to do something to because I'm so dismissive of 1:42:56.760 --> 1:42:59.800 him in it and I'm just ready to turn him over, 1:43:00.080 --> 1:43:04.760 like I I had to work on something that made 1:43:04.760 --> 1:43:07.760 me able to just be like I'm done with you. 1:43:08.360 --> 1:43:10.679 Yeah, yeah, like blame blame it on him in subway. 1:43:11.680 --> 1:43:14.560 I don't know. It was something. It was something like that. 1:43:14.560 --> 1:43:15.200 That's cool. 1:43:15.280 --> 1:43:17.840 That's cool because you created a lot of backstory that 1:43:17.880 --> 1:43:19.559 I would have loved to have heard, you know. 1:43:20.360 --> 1:43:24.439 Like it's definitely like what's her motivation here? 1:43:24.600 --> 1:43:29.479 Like yeah, like but that's like such an interesting part 1:43:29.520 --> 1:43:31.640 of like the job that you do is like you 1:43:31.680 --> 1:43:34.280 don't always get that, and a director doesn't always tell 1:43:34.320 --> 1:43:35.920 you either, so you got to like fill it in 1:43:35.960 --> 1:43:36.960 for yourself or. 1:43:37.240 --> 1:43:40.000 Yeah, because we meet her so heightened and then she yeah, 1:43:40.000 --> 1:43:43.519 you're right, she's like so confident and interrogation and so 1:43:43.680 --> 1:43:47.840 dismiss it and just ready, Yeah, it's the interrogation. 1:43:48.120 --> 1:43:49.160 Yeah, tell us everything. 1:43:49.520 --> 1:43:54.040 The interrogation scene was interesting to me because you know, 1:43:54.080 --> 1:43:57.439 it's Marishka and Kelly right there like in my face, 1:43:57.560 --> 1:43:59.720 and they were like in my face. 1:43:59.520 --> 1:44:03.280 Like but also with your backstory about having money. That's 1:44:03.280 --> 1:44:05.040 how you guys got lawyers that fast? 1:44:05.720 --> 1:44:08.439 Yeah maybe, yeah, that's smart. 1:44:08.439 --> 1:44:09.280 Okay, sorry, but yes. 1:44:09.560 --> 1:44:13.479 So they come in, you know, and they are both 1:44:13.640 --> 1:44:16.519 just like you know, they're both just like powerhouses, and 1:44:17.240 --> 1:44:20.040 they want to get going because you know, the guest 1:44:20.040 --> 1:44:22.240 stars who have been trying to get on the show 1:44:22.280 --> 1:44:24.360 for fifteen years, they probably all want to be good 1:44:24.400 --> 1:44:26.080 for them and be their friends, and they want them 1:44:26.080 --> 1:44:28.440 to be interested in us. And I'm just like sitting. 1:44:28.120 --> 1:44:30.960 There like like what do I do? My god, they're 1:44:31.000 --> 1:44:34.679 bright in my face, you know. So they talk to you. 1:44:34.960 --> 1:44:36.240 I could feel it happening. 1:44:36.280 --> 1:44:38.160 They talk to you as much as they need to 1:44:38.200 --> 1:44:40.720 talk to you to get what they need so they 1:44:40.720 --> 1:44:41.920 can go home to their kids. 1:44:42.520 --> 1:44:42.760 You know. 1:44:43.560 --> 1:44:46.160 So we do the scene, we rehearse a little bit, 1:44:46.360 --> 1:44:50.559 and then in between takes. You know, Kelly started it, 1:44:50.560 --> 1:44:52.280 she'd be like, so where are you from? You know, 1:44:52.360 --> 1:44:55.760 and I'd be like Indiana and and you know, and 1:44:55.800 --> 1:44:59.840 then in between takes, the next the next one, Mariska said, 1:45:00.080 --> 1:45:01.879 my father was mister Indiana. 1:45:01.920 --> 1:45:03.759 He was a bodybuilder. Like you know, they say. 1:45:03.680 --> 1:45:06.840 These and and now after watching the my mom Jane, 1:45:06.880 --> 1:45:07.320 I feel like. 1:45:07.280 --> 1:45:08.559 So special that she said that to me. 1:45:09.200 --> 1:45:11.759 Yeah, so they'll. 1:45:11.520 --> 1:45:14.439 Say little things to you like we're like, it's like 1:45:14.680 --> 1:45:19.880 we're not friends, but we're gonna be nice to each 1:45:19.920 --> 1:45:24.160 other and cordial and try to make me feel comfortable 1:45:24.320 --> 1:45:26.519 enough that we are a little bit making friends so 1:45:26.560 --> 1:45:27.760 that we can get the work done. 1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:28.320 Mm hmm. 1:45:28.920 --> 1:45:31.240 That's what it feels like. But it feels in a 1:45:31.240 --> 1:45:33.280 good way. I'm making it sound like a little frivolous, 1:45:33.280 --> 1:45:36.719 but in a good way. It feels like they're almost 1:45:36.720 --> 1:45:38.439 gonna let me into the club, but not really, but 1:45:38.479 --> 1:45:41.080 we're just gonna get but you know, you're you're not. 1:45:41.120 --> 1:45:42.000 There yet, you know. 1:45:42.120 --> 1:45:44.839 Probably depends also like what type of day you're shooting 1:45:44.880 --> 1:45:46.840 the scene, Like if it's first thing in the morning, 1:45:46.880 --> 1:45:49.000 maybe they're more chatty, and then like if it's five 1:45:49.040 --> 1:45:51.160 o'clock or they're like, we gotta get home, you know. 1:45:51.439 --> 1:45:53.960 But but then we did, we did. I did feel 1:45:54.000 --> 1:45:54.840 good by the end of it. 1:45:54.880 --> 1:45:58.360 I told Kelly that I waited on her a couple 1:45:58.360 --> 1:46:00.840 of times at a restaurant and I she'd come into 1:46:00.880 --> 1:46:02.960 this restaurant where I worked, and she was kind of. 1:46:02.920 --> 1:46:06.679 Like where when you know, like like like she didn't 1:46:06.720 --> 1:46:07.320 really remember it. 1:46:07.360 --> 1:46:09.479 And I was like, oh God, note to self, don't 1:46:09.479 --> 1:46:11.679 tell stars that you waited on them in a restaurant. 1:46:13.760 --> 1:46:16.280 I was like, lesson learned. I won't like try to 1:46:16.320 --> 1:46:19.040 make that connection. And then though by the end of it, 1:46:19.560 --> 1:46:21.519 I did feel so then I felt a little insecure 1:46:21.560 --> 1:46:23.040 for a minute, but then by the end of it, 1:46:23.080 --> 1:46:25.200 I did feel like we were okay. 1:46:25.360 --> 1:46:29.160 I don't know, it's like so weird. Wait what restaurant 1:46:29.200 --> 1:46:29.479 was it? 1:46:30.400 --> 1:46:32.240 MoMA Fucu zombar Oh? 1:46:32.240 --> 1:46:35.080 Wow, I remember? How can you not remember MoMA Fuku? 1:46:35.760 --> 1:46:36.360 Yeah it was. 1:46:36.479 --> 1:46:37.639 It's not there anymore. 1:46:37.640 --> 1:46:39.080 But I worked there for a long time, like seven 1:46:39.120 --> 1:46:41.320 and a half years, and you know, everybody would come 1:46:41.360 --> 1:46:43.240 in there, so you would. It's just like the thing 1:46:43.280 --> 1:46:45.000 of like some celebrity you can talk to them and 1:46:45.080 --> 1:46:47.479 some you can't, and you just have to feel feel 1:46:47.520 --> 1:46:49.200 it out, and you never want to make it about 1:46:49.240 --> 1:46:50.679 and you talk to them about the food. 1:46:50.680 --> 1:46:52.479 You don't talk to them about other things, you know. 1:46:52.920 --> 1:46:55.519 But by the end of that little interaction with the 1:46:55.560 --> 1:46:58.519 two of them that interrogation scene, I did have the 1:46:58.560 --> 1:47:01.800 confidence to say, I just want you both to know 1:47:01.880 --> 1:47:04.840 that I've been auditioning for the show for fifteen years. 1:47:05.200 --> 1:47:08.040 And then Richie said, and look, you got the best ones. 1:47:10.840 --> 1:47:13.639 Awesome. Yeah, and I. 1:47:13.600 --> 1:47:16.479 Mean these scenes in your real I mean, yeah, it's 1:47:16.560 --> 1:47:17.600 like incredible. 1:47:17.840 --> 1:47:19.280 Well, let me ask you this, because you did an 1:47:19.320 --> 1:47:22.760 episode of organized crime as well, right, yes, did you 1:47:22.920 --> 1:47:26.840 notice like a difference between being on like a set 1:47:26.920 --> 1:47:29.599 run by Christopher Maloney and a set run by Mrushia 1:47:29.640 --> 1:47:30.879 Hargitet Because I'm interested. 1:47:31.880 --> 1:47:36.800 So I only saw him in the makeup room and 1:47:36.960 --> 1:47:40.799 he was very nice to me, came right up, introduced himself, 1:47:40.840 --> 1:47:43.559 you know, like smiled, and I was like, oh, you know, 1:47:43.640 --> 1:47:47.479 but he wasn't on my scene. And I do have 1:47:47.520 --> 1:47:51.040 a good organized crime story as well. So my first 1:47:51.280 --> 1:47:54.360 show was Criminal Minds, and I had like one line 1:47:54.680 --> 1:47:56.559 one and then it got cut to one word and 1:47:56.600 --> 1:47:58.559 then this is in my this isn't my solo play 1:47:58.600 --> 1:48:02.640 that I'll plug later, but in my family it's a 1:48:02.720 --> 1:48:05.559 verb we call I got criminal minded again. So it's 1:48:05.600 --> 1:48:08.639 like I get cut out or it's just like you're 1:48:08.680 --> 1:48:10.479 you're there and you look like you know, it's happened 1:48:10.479 --> 1:48:12.439 to me so many times, or you look like an extra, 1:48:12.520 --> 1:48:14.200 but you're there, you know, But you did have a 1:48:14.240 --> 1:48:18.800 scene so organized crime. I was like a rocker chick, 1:48:18.920 --> 1:48:21.760 like had this big leather jacket with fringe, and I 1:48:21.800 --> 1:48:24.280 was like jamming out in the in the truck. And 1:48:24.320 --> 1:48:28.400 my boyfriend was ex military. So there's a cop stuck 1:48:28.400 --> 1:48:32.120 in the trunk of the car and he's doing SOS 1:48:32.400 --> 1:48:35.320 with the brake lights. So my boyfriend's like, I think 1:48:35.360 --> 1:48:37.720 that's SOS. So we stop and like, you know, try 1:48:37.720 --> 1:48:39.920 to let him out. So the day that was the 1:48:40.000 --> 1:48:42.400 third day, second or third day of shooting, it was 1:48:42.439 --> 1:48:47.280 set up in on a street. A pedestrian car drives 1:48:47.320 --> 1:48:52.240 through the set, knocking down the cameras. Oh my god, yes, yes, 1:48:52.320 --> 1:48:56.040 knocking down the cameras. Like this big thing happened. I 1:48:56.040 --> 1:48:57.720 didn't see it. I was in the in the van. 1:48:58.200 --> 1:49:01.760 But then like camera crew went to like crew went 1:49:01.800 --> 1:49:04.280 to like get him, like attack him. He pulls out 1:49:04.320 --> 1:49:05.920 his this is the story I got here, say, I 1:49:05.960 --> 1:49:08.040 didn't see it for myself. He pulls out his cell 1:49:08.040 --> 1:49:11.640 phone camera and starts filming them coming at him, and 1:49:11.680 --> 1:49:15.559 so then the cops recalled he go, They let him go, 1:49:15.800 --> 1:49:19.000 the guy who drove through the set, and the day 1:49:19.040 --> 1:49:21.640 they call the day because people can't keep shooting after that. 1:49:22.120 --> 1:49:24.160 So I called my brother and I was like, I 1:49:24.200 --> 1:49:25.800 am going to get criminal minded again. 1:49:26.120 --> 1:49:26.920 I'm like, I'm not. 1:49:26.880 --> 1:49:30.000 Gonna They're not even I cannot find it. I'm like 1:49:30.040 --> 1:49:32.000 there was a terrorist attack or something. I cannot find 1:49:32.040 --> 1:49:33.920 another reason why I'm gonna. I'm not even going to 1:49:33.960 --> 1:49:36.000 get to shoot this. So they do call us back 1:49:36.000 --> 1:49:39.280 one more day. They set up the set in a 1:49:39.360 --> 1:49:41.840 parking lot instead of on that street, and we do 1:49:41.960 --> 1:49:44.680 the scene again. So I'm like, cool, I'm gonna make it. 1:49:44.720 --> 1:49:46.679 I'm going to get in because it was the teaser. 1:49:47.120 --> 1:49:49.960 And then you know, a few weeks months later, I'm 1:49:49.960 --> 1:49:53.720 watching the episode and I'm like, that doesn't happen. Now, 1:49:53.960 --> 1:49:58.240 that doesn't happen yet, the whole teaser was caught. They 1:49:58.320 --> 1:50:01.200 just start with the guy getting out of the trunk. Oh, 1:50:01.320 --> 1:50:04.599 so you got criminal minded again. I got criminal minded again. 1:50:05.240 --> 1:50:08.160 So you can barely see me in organized crime? 1:50:08.400 --> 1:50:12.360 Wait, you mentioned solo show? Tell us about it? 1:50:12.400 --> 1:50:12.640 Is it? 1:50:12.680 --> 1:50:15.519 How to Find a husband in thirty seven years or longer? 1:50:16.000 --> 1:50:16.679 Or longer. 1:50:17.040 --> 1:50:21.760 It is, you know it. I watched your Netflix special too. 1:50:21.840 --> 1:50:22.719 I love that stuff. 1:50:22.479 --> 1:50:24.559 About your dad. Oh my gosh, thank you. 1:50:27.520 --> 1:50:29.400 It's called How to Find a Husband in thirty seven 1:50:29.479 --> 1:50:31.679 Years or Longer, and my dad is the main character. 1:50:33.000 --> 1:50:35.679 My dad. We have been touring a little bit this summer. 1:50:35.720 --> 1:50:35.960 We have. 1:50:36.520 --> 1:50:38.760 We just did Days in South Dakota, where some my 1:50:39.000 --> 1:50:41.000 my brother lives, and that was a really great theater 1:50:41.120 --> 1:50:44.240 Catalyst shout out to Catalyst Theater Company. They were awesome. 1:50:44.439 --> 1:50:47.519 And then we're doing it in Indianapolis in August. But 1:50:48.080 --> 1:50:53.280 my father got busted growing marijuana in twenty ten, and 1:50:53.280 --> 1:50:55.880 he's like a Pentecostal Christian, like, he just did it 1:50:55.920 --> 1:50:59.120 for the money. This is in Indiana where it's you know, 1:50:59.200 --> 1:51:01.280 completely illegal. He just did it for the money. Some 1:51:01.360 --> 1:51:03.680 kid in his factory convinced him to do it. And 1:51:03.720 --> 1:51:06.400 so I was supposed to go to India for my 1:51:06.600 --> 1:51:09.000 first roommate in New York's wedding, and my flights got 1:51:09.000 --> 1:51:10.880 canceled twice, so I ended up in That's like the 1:51:10.880 --> 1:51:13.000 first joke is, like, I guess I wasn't supposed to 1:51:13.040 --> 1:51:13.599 be in India. 1:51:14.280 --> 1:51:15.560 I was supposed to be in Indiana. 1:51:15.720 --> 1:51:18.880 So I go to Indiana and I record my dad, 1:51:18.960 --> 1:51:20.880 which I didn't even it was, you know, it was 1:51:20.920 --> 1:51:23.000 like I think I had my first iPhone and I 1:51:23.040 --> 1:51:25.559 had never recorded really on your phone. So I recorded 1:51:25.640 --> 1:51:28.439 him just like figuring it out, like is this how 1:51:28.479 --> 1:51:30.360 this works? You know, like let me see if this works. 1:51:30.360 --> 1:51:32.679 And he didn't know I was recording him. I recorded 1:51:32.760 --> 1:51:35.280 him telling me like his side of the story, and 1:51:35.320 --> 1:51:38.639 then it kind of turned into this. I didn't think 1:51:38.680 --> 1:51:41.000 it was the same script, but I was writing also, 1:51:41.200 --> 1:51:45.080 you know, boys stories, and my dad talks about his 1:51:45.080 --> 1:51:48.320 four ex wives, so it's kind of in present time. 1:51:48.439 --> 1:51:50.759 I'm in the truck with my dad discussing what happened 1:51:50.760 --> 1:51:53.880 with this marijuana thing, and he starts going off on 1:51:54.040 --> 1:51:56.600 his ex wives and then it goes into like a 1:51:56.640 --> 1:52:00.320 memory play of like ex boyfriends and like falling love 1:52:00.360 --> 1:52:00.920 and break up. 1:52:01.040 --> 1:52:03.040 And yeah, so we've been doing it a little bit. 1:52:03.040 --> 1:52:04.280 We took it to Edinburgh Fringe. 1:52:04.720 --> 1:52:07.920 How was that? How was the fringe? It was great? 1:52:07.920 --> 1:52:08.960 Have you ever done the Fringe? 1:52:09.040 --> 1:52:12.040 I did it in twenty nineteen and I really enjoyed 1:52:12.040 --> 1:52:12.519 my time. 1:52:13.400 --> 1:52:15.680 Yeah, yeah, we have to go back, We have to 1:52:15.680 --> 1:52:18.479 go back. It's it was like amazing, it was a 1:52:18.520 --> 1:52:22.519 bucket list. It was like crazyness, Like it felt like 1:52:23.640 --> 1:52:25.760 a year and it felt like a day all at 1:52:25.800 --> 1:52:27.519 the same time. And then I came home and like 1:52:27.560 --> 1:52:29.040 had a mental breakdown, like what am I going to 1:52:29.120 --> 1:52:29.559 do now? 1:52:30.760 --> 1:52:33.720 Well, if you're in Indiana August twenty second through the 1:52:33.720 --> 1:52:34.800 twenty fourth. 1:52:35.400 --> 1:52:38.320 Go seeay say what it's called again? 1:52:38.439 --> 1:52:41.360 JJ how to find a husband in thirty seven years 1:52:41.479 --> 1:52:41.960 or longer? 1:52:42.120 --> 1:52:46.760 Okay, great, yes, indie indie people, go see that or 1:52:46.840 --> 1:52:48.759 the Environs of Indy and. 1:52:48.720 --> 1:52:50.759 Give me more guest star auditions Universe. 1:52:50.840 --> 1:52:54.920 Yes, yes, but it'll probably just be in like a 1:52:55.000 --> 1:52:58.479 year or two, because you know, we can't just forget 1:52:58.479 --> 1:52:59.520 about Nicole. 1:53:00.040 --> 1:53:04.280 You know, like I will regular lady now, you know. 1:53:04.960 --> 1:53:07.519 And that room is creepy, Like I'm you know, it's 1:53:07.520 --> 1:53:09.639 at it, but that room is creepy. 1:53:10.280 --> 1:53:13.120 And they took that room out to the barn and 1:53:13.160 --> 1:53:14.679 had it like reset up in the barn. 1:53:14.800 --> 1:53:16.000 Yeah that I did see that. 1:53:16.040 --> 1:53:20.160 That was creepy and I got to do it. Yeah, 1:53:20.200 --> 1:53:21.920 and I got to do adr for the first time, 1:53:21.920 --> 1:53:25.559 which was so fun. Ooh yeah, I had never done that. 1:53:25.640 --> 1:53:27.840 So you're in a little booth, you're in a room, 1:53:28.040 --> 1:53:31.439 somebody's in Stye Town, somebody's in LA and they play 1:53:31.479 --> 1:53:33.680 the scene for you, and then you have to like 1:53:34.040 --> 1:53:37.639 because they wanted my my torturing voice was too mean. 1:53:37.960 --> 1:53:39.920 They wanted it to be like sweeter, so it was 1:53:40.040 --> 1:53:41.360 more like creepy. 1:53:41.439 --> 1:53:41.719 Yeah. 1:53:41.760 --> 1:53:43.800 So then I was like doing all these like higher 1:53:43.880 --> 1:53:46.759 voice inflections, like don't do that. You know you're gonna 1:53:46.760 --> 1:53:49.480 be trying to make it like really creepy instead of harsh. 1:53:49.720 --> 1:53:51.280 So I got to do adr for that. 1:53:51.720 --> 1:53:54.320 Great, they did make you creepy. They succeeded. 1:53:54.479 --> 1:53:57.479 It's so such a like little yeah eight R is 1:53:57.520 --> 1:53:59.960 such a funny little trick, like when you just can 1:54:00.280 --> 1:54:02.960 add jokes in when you don't see someone's mouth, you know, like. 1:54:03.240 --> 1:54:06.040 Yeah, and you just watch the screen and then say 1:54:06.040 --> 1:54:07.880 the line and they change it and I could see 1:54:07.880 --> 1:54:09.639 how they changed it on the on the cut. 1:54:10.200 --> 1:54:11.320 Was that was that was pretty cool? 1:54:11.479 --> 1:54:15.520 Crazy? Thank you for having so many details. 1:54:15.960 --> 1:54:18.800 Yeah, well, you're more most recent, I would say, you're 1:54:18.880 --> 1:54:21.360 the we've we've never ever talked to somebody who's just 1:54:21.400 --> 1:54:22.719 been on an episode so recent. 1:54:22.880 --> 1:54:25.479 Really, you never talked to her anyone in the current 1:54:25.560 --> 1:54:26.519 season ever. 1:54:27.479 --> 1:54:30.240 First time, Well, my friend Kate. Hi, Kate. 1:54:30.400 --> 1:54:32.360 My friend Kate told me about you guys because she's 1:54:32.360 --> 1:54:34.720 one of those people that is watches SPU. 1:54:34.640 --> 1:54:37.040 Like from the beginning every week, die Hard. 1:54:37.520 --> 1:54:40.000 She was a manager at the restaurant that I was 1:54:40.040 --> 1:54:44.160 talking about, Sombar, So she I didn't tell her that 1:54:44.240 --> 1:54:45.880 I got it because I like kind of knew in 1:54:45.920 --> 1:54:47.840 my head that she would see me and so that 1:54:48.000 --> 1:54:51.600 she she like finally was like, JJ, you know because 1:54:51.680 --> 1:54:53.680 because you do that. I when I worked there that 1:54:53.760 --> 1:54:57.480 I had auditioned a couple of times and she sent 1:54:57.560 --> 1:54:58.800 me your Guys podcast. 1:54:59.040 --> 1:55:00.480 She was like, you should be on this, So. 1:55:00.920 --> 1:55:06.280 Kak, we need boots on the ground recruiting people. Anything 1:55:06.360 --> 1:55:08.920 else you'd like to tell people about or how to 1:55:08.960 --> 1:55:09.480 follow you. 1:55:09.720 --> 1:55:13.840 Or yeah, an scoop my any scoop? 1:55:13.960 --> 1:55:20.360 Oh, where would we start? My Instagram is at Alice 1:55:20.400 --> 1:55:26.879 IW for Alice in Wonderland, Alice IW on Instagram, TikTok 1:55:27.040 --> 1:55:31.000 all that you know all this stuff Twitter not Twitter. 1:55:30.920 --> 1:55:33.960 X, thank you and thanks to your friend Kate. We 1:55:34.040 --> 1:55:36.600 were like so excited that you're able to come on. 1:55:37.440 --> 1:55:41.200 I mean it's uh, it's an incredibly dark, good episode. 1:55:41.560 --> 1:55:46.000 It is right, I. 1:55:45.920 --> 1:55:49.040 Mean, she was awesome remembered everything. What a story of 1:55:49.080 --> 1:55:52.480 perseverance and what an actress because yeah, don't give up. 1:55:52.640 --> 1:55:55.600 Fifteen years she finally got to play like a fucking 1:55:55.760 --> 1:56:00.200 extremely sick o battie and have face time with all 1:56:00.240 --> 1:56:01.080 the main casts. 1:56:01.160 --> 1:56:04.920 So good for her. I hate this episode. 1:56:05.400 --> 1:56:09.520 The episode is so dark, Like I'm really excited to 1:56:09.600 --> 1:56:11.600 see what's going to happen in this new season with 1:56:11.640 --> 1:56:14.640 this new female showrunner who not only is a female 1:56:14.680 --> 1:56:19.240 showrunner but also comes from like the classic days of 1:56:19.320 --> 1:56:19.760 the show. 1:56:19.960 --> 1:56:22.880 You know, like I kind of just want we. 1:56:22.840 --> 1:56:25.800 Don't have to get as horrific as possible, Like just 1:56:25.880 --> 1:56:29.400 somebody breaking into someone's apartment and attacking them is horrific enough, 1:56:29.480 --> 1:56:31.920 you know, like we don't have to do pooring gas 1:56:31.960 --> 1:56:35.000 on people and the most important lifeguard in New York. 1:56:35.040 --> 1:56:37.680 Although I mean we had fun with that, but like. 1:56:37.720 --> 1:56:41.120 No, it's so but I'm glad to know that the 1:56:41.160 --> 1:56:43.880 young actress was just like a dark girl, Like who 1:56:43.920 --> 1:56:46.680 loved that because it's scary. 1:56:47.120 --> 1:56:49.000 It's scary, and she was so good in it. 1:56:49.080 --> 1:56:52.680 But I think it's like seeing her get shocked and scream. 1:56:52.080 --> 1:56:54.440 Like it was just tough. She was really good because 1:56:54.440 --> 1:56:54.720 if you. 1:56:54.680 --> 1:56:57.600 Think back to like the very little like abuse that 1:56:57.600 --> 1:57:00.000 they show on the show of Children, Like they usually 1:57:00.160 --> 1:57:02.240 you find a kid huddled in a blanket, Oh my god, 1:57:02.240 --> 1:57:04.840 we found you, Sammy, like or whatever, Like, we don't 1:57:04.920 --> 1:57:09.160 usually see bad things happening like to the kid directly. 1:57:09.520 --> 1:57:12.480 That little girl was like terrifying me. She looked so scared. 1:57:12.560 --> 1:57:15.200 She was excellent. Yeah, she was excellent. I bet we're 1:57:15.240 --> 1:57:17.240 gonna follow her forever and she'll be like a Lily 1:57:17.400 --> 1:57:19.600 Reinhart where we're like, wait, we can't get hurt. What 1:57:19.640 --> 1:57:22.680 do you mean she's thirty million followers. It'll be that 1:57:22.800 --> 1:57:23.560 kind of situation. 1:57:24.320 --> 1:57:26.640 Oh my god. Yeah, Lily Reinhart stone Cold. 1:57:28.320 --> 1:57:31.360 But yeah, she's a trailer for some movie that looks 1:57:31.400 --> 1:57:34.240 good with her. Well, yeah, there's just what's the fun 1:57:34.360 --> 1:57:38.480 movie coming out with all the desks, Casey, the scary 1:57:38.520 --> 1:57:40.840 one with the desks and all the kids get up, Julia. 1:57:41.400 --> 1:57:45.520 Isn't it called like seventeen Weapon Weapons and it's like 1:57:45.600 --> 1:57:49.200 seventeen kids leave their house this and don't return or 1:57:49.240 --> 1:57:49.920 something like that. 1:57:50.120 --> 1:57:53.080 Yeah, I'm excited. I'm fucking excited. Get me. 1:57:53.120 --> 1:57:56.000 Oh your favorite June Diana Raphael's in it. Oh I 1:57:56.120 --> 1:57:58.600 saw her at the premiere. Look at the weapon. 1:57:59.600 --> 1:58:02.080 She was the Weapons premiere looking you went to the 1:58:02.120 --> 1:58:05.720 Weapons premiere no on on Instagram. Oh sorry, I did 1:58:05.800 --> 1:58:07.400 not mean to make it sound like I was at 1:58:07.440 --> 1:58:07.920 the premiere. 1:58:08.000 --> 1:58:09.720 I think I would have led with that in the intro. 1:58:10.920 --> 1:58:11.120 No. 1:58:11.240 --> 1:58:13.240 I saw her when she was posing at the premiere, 1:58:13.240 --> 1:58:15.280 and she just was wearing like a really sexy outfit. 1:58:15.280 --> 1:58:20.920 Shows good. Yeah, I'm excited as fuck. Yeah, I don't 1:58:20.920 --> 1:58:21.640 know anything about it. 1:58:21.680 --> 1:58:23.320 I've just been seeing the post I saw the posters 1:58:23.360 --> 1:58:27.880 around New York for it everywhere, but post mortem for 1:58:27.960 --> 1:58:30.920 this episode. I guess it's like, let lock the car 1:58:31.080 --> 1:58:34.200 if your kid, if you're delivering food and your kids inside, 1:58:34.720 --> 1:58:36.600 I mean, well, that's the lesson. 1:58:36.640 --> 1:58:40.280 The lesson is, like our life sucks. We're living in 1:58:40.320 --> 1:58:43.720 a dystopian nightmare. No one should have to be delivering 1:58:43.760 --> 1:58:47.640 groceries while their kid is sick like it's fucked up, 1:58:47.880 --> 1:58:48.880 like it's fucked up. 1:58:48.920 --> 1:58:53.560 To watch the the bad lives that we're all okay with. 1:58:53.720 --> 1:58:54.160 I don't know. 1:58:55.400 --> 1:58:59.640 Yeah, and I'm excluding myself from this narrative, but I 1:58:59.640 --> 1:59:02.840 don't think anyone should have to struggle like that. No, 1:59:02.960 --> 1:59:05.000 I know, at the end, she goes, my parents are 1:59:05.040 --> 1:59:06.360 in Vermont, We're gonna go up there. I was like, 1:59:06.400 --> 1:59:08.520 why weren't you there already? Like I don't know, like 1:59:08.600 --> 1:59:12.520 and then close to the trust on boyfriend yeah or 1:59:12.520 --> 1:59:16.560 the father Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, And like I 1:59:16.560 --> 1:59:19.280 don't know, dude, I don't know if it's gonna happen 1:59:19.320 --> 1:59:20.560 with your ozembic jingles. 1:59:21.440 --> 1:59:25.240 But keep following your dreams. I do have other big news. 1:59:25.240 --> 1:59:28.480 I forgot to mention. I did have dinner at Margaritaville 1:59:28.520 --> 1:59:29.360 in Times Square. 1:59:30.720 --> 1:59:31.920 Wow, what brought that on? 1:59:32.480 --> 1:59:34.720 Well, my friends and nieces were in town, so they 1:59:34.760 --> 1:59:37.000 stayed there for the pool. But then there's a booth 1:59:37.280 --> 1:59:39.879 that is the Statue of Liberty, So you sit inside 1:59:39.920 --> 1:59:43.600 the Statue of Liberty and they love the Statue of Liberty. 1:59:43.880 --> 1:59:47.360 And she's holding a margarita glass instead of a torch, 1:59:48.080 --> 1:59:51.520 and it's led margarita glass, so it turns into sharp 1:59:51.520 --> 1:59:52.200 little women. 1:59:52.720 --> 1:59:53.320 I get it. 1:59:53.360 --> 1:59:55.400 As soon as kids rented the picture, I was like, 1:59:55.440 --> 1:59:56.240 this makes sense. 1:59:56.320 --> 1:59:59.040 But like I had a Havana banana drink and honey. 1:59:59.080 --> 2:00:01.200 That was the first thing I all day, and I 2:00:01.400 --> 2:00:06.440 was wasted. But yeah, yeah, and the Buffalo chicken dip 2:00:06.480 --> 2:00:07.960 was good. I thought it was actually gonna be way 2:00:08.000 --> 2:00:09.800 worse than it was, so I was exciting. 2:00:09.800 --> 2:00:12.160 I don't even know where that is. Like it's a 2:00:12.200 --> 2:00:15.320 hotel and a restaurant. Oh yeah, the hotel is crazy. 2:00:15.320 --> 2:00:17.240 You walk in and there's just a giant flip flop. 2:00:17.680 --> 2:00:19.960 All the art is just parrots going. Is there a 2:00:20.000 --> 2:00:20.839 woman to blame? 2:00:21.040 --> 2:00:21.280 You know? 2:00:21.480 --> 2:00:24.800 It's like not a girl. It's in Times Square. 2:00:25.240 --> 2:00:28.800 Yeah, and like parrot heads just they descend on this 2:00:28.960 --> 2:00:31.680 place and it's just so trashy. 2:00:32.480 --> 2:00:33.000 Wow. 2:00:33.440 --> 2:00:35.520 But I think the price is okay for like with 2:00:35.640 --> 2:00:37.840 a pool, I guess or some sort. I don't have 2:00:37.920 --> 2:00:40.200 a pool in New York in the summer and be central. 2:00:40.320 --> 2:00:40.760 I get that. 2:00:41.040 --> 2:00:43.040 I get yeah, because they were going to a Latin 2:00:43.040 --> 2:00:46.120 you know their children they were really cool. Yeah, oh Aladdin. 2:00:46.200 --> 2:00:47.480 I always forget about Aladdin. 2:00:47.560 --> 2:00:48.480 But that's how I know. 2:00:48.480 --> 2:00:50.560 I'm back to back because at this Whippets hang, I 2:00:50.680 --> 2:00:55.400 was at a mission star chef cooked for us excuse me, yeah, 2:00:55.440 --> 2:00:58.080 and I was like in heaven and then I was 2:00:58.120 --> 2:00:59.560 at Margaritaville the next day. 2:01:01.680 --> 2:01:02.360 I can do it all. 2:01:02.400 --> 2:01:07.000 It's all kinds. You really are multifaceted. Wait, speaking of 2:01:07.000 --> 2:01:09.160 Michelin Starship. It just reminded me of it, just like that. 2:01:09.320 --> 2:01:11.680 I am catching up. I'm already a few episodes into 2:01:11.680 --> 2:01:14.200 the third season, so I'm getting there with like everybody 2:01:14.280 --> 2:01:16.000 hate watching it, I'm going to get to I'm going 2:01:16.080 --> 2:01:18.720 to finish right as like the last episode drops. 2:01:18.520 --> 2:01:21.520 I was talking to someone young, like they're twenty one, 2:01:22.240 --> 2:01:26.080 and I was talking about how I'm just like that's ending, 2:01:26.200 --> 2:01:28.360 and they were like, so many of my moms are 2:01:28.360 --> 2:01:31.520 employed by that show. That sucks, and she just knew 2:01:31.520 --> 2:01:34.120 all these women that have like jobs because of the show. 2:01:34.400 --> 2:01:37.800 Wait, but is it ending? Oh yeay, I know it's done. 2:01:37.960 --> 2:01:38.800 They're not returning. 2:01:38.840 --> 2:01:41.800 It is done. Oh okay, I didn't know that. 2:01:42.280 --> 2:01:42.480 Yeah. 2:01:42.560 --> 2:01:43.880 Now I see all the memes where it's like I 2:01:43.920 --> 2:01:45.840 hate the show. All I did was talk shit about it. 2:01:45.960 --> 2:01:48.520 I lived every moment, every second, and now I'm like, 2:01:48.560 --> 2:01:49.440 what do you mean it's ending? 2:01:49.760 --> 2:01:51.880 Yeah? What do you mean? What's going on here? 2:01:52.840 --> 2:01:56.280 Oh? That's too bad. I was kind of watching it 2:01:56.320 --> 2:01:59.480 while doing other things. I was sort of emily emparising it, 2:01:59.600 --> 2:02:04.520 and I was enjoying, Like, I mean, it's bad. It's bad, 2:02:04.800 --> 2:02:06.760 and it's not the same as what we had but 2:02:06.840 --> 2:02:10.360 I was like, oh, the apartments are gorgeous and the fashion, 2:02:10.440 --> 2:02:12.560 and I like New York. That New York looks beautiful. 2:02:12.600 --> 2:02:14.400 You know, I was enjoying parts. Well, guess what else 2:02:14.440 --> 2:02:18.080 is set in New York? Dexter Okay, yeah, I'm excited. 2:02:18.120 --> 2:02:20.400 I'm putting that on my Wait, where's my watch list? 2:02:20.400 --> 2:02:23.000 I'm gonna it's just fucking good. It's such a good show. 2:02:23.080 --> 2:02:25.520 Like I forget that I'm a Dexter head, Like I 2:02:25.600 --> 2:02:26.120 just forget. 2:02:27.240 --> 2:02:29.400 Yeah, no, we love it. 2:02:29.480 --> 2:02:32.560 Okay, I'm putting it on my list along, well I 2:02:32.600 --> 2:02:34.240 can cross off and just like that, and I'm gonna 2:02:34.280 --> 2:02:35.120 put But they make. 2:02:35.000 --> 2:02:37.040 It really hard. People are like, oh, it's still continuing. 2:02:37.080 --> 2:02:38.800 I'm like, well, there was a new Blood and this 2:02:38.880 --> 2:02:41.560 is Resurrection, but there's a prequel in the beginning, and 2:02:41.680 --> 2:02:42.640 that one is not good. 2:02:42.720 --> 2:02:42.880 You know. 2:02:42.960 --> 2:02:46.320 It's like it's not trying a bunch of different things. 2:02:46.680 --> 2:02:49.920 It's not simple. 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