WEBVTT - Ep. 37: Continuously Finding Ways To Win | Jags A.M. Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Now Jaguars get an ugly win in Pittsburgh, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are six and two as we head into the bye week.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your letter grade for them so far this season?

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<v Speaker 2>Has to be an A. Six and two with what

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<v Speaker 2>they've been through schedule wise, I can't imagine it being

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<v Speaker 2>anything but an A.

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<v Speaker 1>A welcome into Jags am Kayannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osier.

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<v Speaker 1>A's all around for this team because you can complain,

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<v Speaker 1>you can say they're winning it ugly and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing what they need to do. But they are six

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<v Speaker 1>and two and that's one of the best starts this

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<v Speaker 1>team has ever had in the season. And Brian, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just remarkable that they've been able to do this. I

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<v Speaker 1>know we expected a lot of them, but the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they've been able to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it as well, you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it The most optimistic of Jaguars fans would have said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they could get the six of two. That

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<v Speaker 2>would be before this began, after the loss of the Texans.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all of us, John were saying, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how long is it gonna take for this

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<v Speaker 2>team to get out of its own way. We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>take very long. The next week they started turning this

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<v Speaker 2>thing around. So it is remarkable in the sense that

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<v Speaker 2>they have gone from what was that getting the Texans

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven points? I still can see that that botched

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<v Speaker 2>kickoff return with the fullback the heaviest return the return

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<v Speaker 2>man touchdown in NFL history, right, and to be where

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<v Speaker 2>they are five weeks later, pretty dramatic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's the NFL. I mean, nobody expected the

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<v Speaker 3>Chiefs to lose to the Broncos yesterday. You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>those kind of games. So six and two to me

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<v Speaker 3>feels that. You know, if somebody last night saying, well

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<v Speaker 3>they should be seven and one, I think they should

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<v Speaker 3>be six and two. They've really played their way to

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<v Speaker 3>six and two. They're two and a half games up.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they deserve to be the front running team

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<v Speaker 3>in the South. Look, an argument can be made outside

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<v Speaker 3>of Philly that this is the best team in football

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 4>They haven't trailed.

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<v Speaker 3>They've trailed for about five minutes in the last five weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't trail yesterday, didn't it didn't trail and anything

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<v Speaker 3>trailed for a series against the Colts before they had

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<v Speaker 3>the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>In the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't play better than that in terms of making

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<v Speaker 3>your wins feel like controlling wins. I get they're not

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<v Speaker 3>doing it offensively, but they don't trail Well, what do

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<v Speaker 3>you want right?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Listen, you could see the upside offensively. Right when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the Miami Dolphins, for instance, they are

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<v Speaker 2>scoring points. They'll always score points. They've got such explosive

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<v Speaker 2>receivers at running backs. But their defense didn't look all

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<v Speaker 2>that good yesterday. I mean, they gave a big chunks

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<v Speaker 2>of yardage to Mac Jones and the Patriots. Now they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't convert, and the Dolphins really didn't struggle to win

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<v Speaker 2>the ball game. But you see where there's upside with

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<v Speaker 2>this Jacksonville offense if they can find a level of efficiency,

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<v Speaker 2>which we're still waiting for. So I don't think you

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<v Speaker 2>can expect anything more at six and two. Man, it

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<v Speaker 2>feels really good if seven and one is what you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for. If you're not happy with six and two,

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<v Speaker 2>you have not been paying attention to this franchise. It's

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's my final thow on the offense before we move on.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that it's frustrating, but I don't think it's tragic.

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<v Speaker 3>Meaning in the games where they have really frustrated fans,

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<v Speaker 3>the reason for the frustration has been they move past

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<v Speaker 3>the fifty every time they have the ball. They were

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<v Speaker 3>past the fifty nine out of the of their ten

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<v Speaker 3>drives yesterday. I think that's what you're talking about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you can feel It's not that they couldn't move yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>They were always inside the Pittsburgh thirty five. They just

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't score it. Well, I've covered bad offense around here.

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<v Speaker 3>I've covered offense that had where people were charting consecutive

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<v Speaker 3>three and outs.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I think this is sort of indicative the league

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<v Speaker 3>is playing this way. They're playing red zone defense inside

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<v Speaker 3>the twenties make it tough. So the league is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of trended toward this. But the Jars had figure out

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<v Speaker 3>is how to get the ball in the end zone.

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<v Speaker 3>One way is not to fumble. Any other way is

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<v Speaker 3>not to listen bad intercepts. You just said it wasn't tragic.

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<v Speaker 2>Tragic would be you telling me I had to play

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<v Speaker 2>without Traves, etn Calvin Ridley, Evan Ingram, Christian Kirk or

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Lawrence for any amount of time the guys are healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're going to be healthier in two weeks when

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<v Speaker 2>they get some of these guys back. And when you've

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<v Speaker 2>got that, then you've got the chance to be who

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, let's go over our big things. We

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<v Speaker 1>touched on one of them already. But this team is

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<v Speaker 1>six and two. That's their best start since nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine when they were over that. But Doug talked about

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<v Speaker 1>what he's seen from his team and how pleased he

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<v Speaker 1>is heading into the buy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought.

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<v Speaker 5>Defensively, just really again, an another solid game defensively, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>kept the offense in the football game. You know, we

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<v Speaker 5>knew going in how how opportunistic Pittsburgh's defense is, and

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<v Speaker 5>then they capitalized. You know, obviously they created some takeaways

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<v Speaker 5>and then our defense in the second have created a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of takeaways. So, you know, for Monterak to come

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<v Speaker 5>in and play like he's done now the last couple

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<v Speaker 5>of weeks, and Andrew Winger to come in and play

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<v Speaker 5>that safety spot, and you know, Antonio Johnson getting in there,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, just the guys have just hanged together,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and I'm really proud of the way they

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<v Speaker 5>performed to.

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<v Speaker 1>To I know we've talked a little bit about this

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<v Speaker 1>record that they have, but the way that they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it also not in terms of just defense, but players

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<v Speaker 1>stepping up right because there were a lot of injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen a lot of them are missing out in

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<v Speaker 1>this last game. But what this team has been able

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<v Speaker 1>to do in terms of getting backups ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>in when they are needed, that has been huge.

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<v Speaker 2>And astute observer the Jaggers a long time could go

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<v Speaker 2>back and look at two thousand and seven in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and five and say those were good teams. They

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<v Speaker 2>had good starts. Maybe not six and two, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were good. This team reminds me of ninety eight and

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine John, because they have the answers. They have

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of guys and all sorts of answers for

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<v Speaker 2>questions that are posed by injury or a lack of

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<v Speaker 2>productivity at any given moment in time or a matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a talented team and Doug Peterson's staff are

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<v Speaker 2>getting the most of them right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you really gave Doug the honesty pill,

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<v Speaker 3>he'd have told you at one and two, looking at

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<v Speaker 3>the schedule they had. I think he'd taken five and

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<v Speaker 3>three easy, maybe even just try to get to five hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know they wanted more than that, but to

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<v Speaker 3>have sort of passed through that, I think he's ecstatic.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he looks at it said, I've got a

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<v Speaker 3>defense that doesn't feel like it's going away. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if they're gonna, you know, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>be the best defense we've ever seen. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>a stat is seven straight or seven out of eight

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<v Speaker 3>games the opponent has had seven or less in the

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<v Speaker 3>first half. Well, that means you're in the game, you

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<v Speaker 3>know you're not getting out of it, and then they

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<v Speaker 3>follow that up by playing really well in the second half.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you think the defense is going away.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think he sees an offense right now that's

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<v Speaker 3>close and that when.

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<v Speaker 4>It needs it.

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<v Speaker 3>The last two weeks, forty four yard touchdown to win it,

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<v Speaker 3>fifty six yard touchdown to it when they need the

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<v Speaker 3>plays they make just.

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<v Speaker 2>They saw it. This is a really good coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, from the head coach and the coordinators

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<v Speaker 2>who get all of the attention on down to Phil

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<v Speaker 2>Rauscher on the offensive line, or Brenston Buckner on the

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<v Speaker 2>defensive line, or Bill Shoey, who's got those two outside

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<v Speaker 2>backers playing very well. We talk about players all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this might be the best coaching staff from

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<v Speaker 2>top to bottom that the Jaguars have had since the

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<v Speaker 2>early days of the Calflin regime.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to our second big thing, which is defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Had today. We can give a lot of credit to

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<v Speaker 1>Mike calgall what he's been able to do with this

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<v Speaker 1>team so far this season, the amount of turnovers they

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<v Speaker 1>are forcing, and also a lot of those plug and

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<v Speaker 1>play players that we've been discussing, Andrew Wingard stepping up,

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<v Speaker 1>mon Terrek Brown as well. And the defense had themselves a.

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<v Speaker 2>Day great, really good.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, It's something that I told the team, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the first half of the season, these first eight games,

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<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, with all the travel and Thursday

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<v Speaker 5>games and in and out of hotels and different things

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<v Speaker 5>like that, the guys have really handled it extremely well.

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<v Speaker 5>Proud of the guys for doing that, and really excited

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<v Speaker 5>to be you know, six and two at the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you come into the game yesterday against Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>and you see Andr Cisco and Tyson Campbell are going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I was concerned it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a hope defense. By the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Andrew Winger and bust Around were able to step

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<v Speaker 1>up and kind of Darius Williams has been playing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so many different names and maybe names you didn't expect.

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<v Speaker 2>He saw the first play of the game they went

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<v Speaker 2>right at Dewey, right, Yeah, and he was up for

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<v Speaker 2>the challenge. He had a great day this defense. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they were ever really threatened yesterday. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>they had control of it from the start to the

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<v Speaker 2>finish of the game. Yeah, they moved the ball at

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<v Speaker 2>times and got themselves in position, but the defense only

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<v Speaker 2>gave up three points on the three turnovers. Right. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they were excellent against the run, not that the

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers run the ball very well. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>John the Kenny Pickett ever really felt comfortable at Trubisky.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously didn't because even though there were only a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of sacks, there were constant hands and bodies in the

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<v Speaker 2>face of the quarterback. They were always there. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give a lot of credit to Devon Hamilton because I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that the push that he had in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the line, made a big difference and set up

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<v Speaker 2>Trayvon Walker from the other side because Pickett kept one

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<v Speaker 2>to slide to his right, right into the arms of him.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a you know.

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<v Speaker 3>In the ozone late night last night, I wrote that

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<v Speaker 3>it really wasn't a very unusual and there's nothing really

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<v Speaker 3>stood out about this game from the five game winning streak,

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't write that to be insulting. I said

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<v Speaker 3>the defense wasn't spectacular, the offense certainly wasn't perfect. And

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<v Speaker 3>then after I wrote it, I kind of laughed, said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>the defense just held a team to two hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>sixty one yards ten points, was never threatened in its

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<v Speaker 3>spectacular because it's it's now what we expect from this.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is a good front seven. I said it

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<v Speaker 3>on in the season, you started looking at the whole

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<v Speaker 3>team and thought, okay, well, on defense, maybe Josh Allen's

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<v Speaker 3>the superstar.

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<v Speaker 4>Beyond that are their superstars? Maybe not?

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<v Speaker 3>But every position is really good and there's no position

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<v Speaker 3>And now you're getting to the point where the depth

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<v Speaker 3>you feel okay if Dewey has to go in, you

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<v Speaker 3>feel okay if Montay Brown has to go in. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I think some of that back there the front seven

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<v Speaker 3>as much as people, oh, there's no pass rusher, This

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<v Speaker 3>front seven is really, really, really good against the run.

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<v Speaker 3>It's exceptional against the run and against the pass, it's disruptive.

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<v Speaker 3>Quarterbacks don't really have time to over and over again

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<v Speaker 3>pick the secondary apart. Now there's some drops and things

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<v Speaker 3>like that. They got a break early, yes, stay the

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<v Speaker 3>secondary did, but they take advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Even calebon chaseon had a couple good pass rushers yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not talking about the sacks, but you are talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the quarterback never feeling comfortable. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Darius Williams play was it on George Pickens out on

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<v Speaker 2>the boundary where he timed the ball and tipped it

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<v Speaker 2>away early in the game. That was a spectacular play.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been spectacular all around. Our final big thing turnover troubles,

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<v Speaker 1>because fair of us to point out that the team

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<v Speaker 1>has not been doing what they need to do on

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<v Speaker 1>offense in terms of not turning the ball over. Turnor

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence had a terrible pick at one point, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the fumbles as well. Terbor talked about some of those issues.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about a lot going to this game.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, this team that we're playing, Steelers, they're really

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<v Speaker 6>good when you if you have more than one turnover,

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<v Speaker 6>if you give up more than a sack or two,

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<v Speaker 6>if you don't score. You know, I think it's twenty

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<v Speaker 6>three points at least. Like their record is really really

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<v Speaker 6>good when those things happen, and we didn't. We didn't

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<v Speaker 6>do anything by that formula today. I mean, we scored

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<v Speaker 6>twenty points, had I don't know how many sacks, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>a few three or four, had three turnovers in plus

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<v Speaker 6>positive territory. I mean, but it's just a testament to

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<v Speaker 6>our defense for one, and then our offense being able

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<v Speaker 6>to make the plays when we need them. And we

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<v Speaker 6>moved the ball consistently all day, which was which was

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<v Speaker 6>great against a really good defense. But we just gotta

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<v Speaker 6>find ways to finish those drives. You know, I had

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<v Speaker 6>a bad play down in the red zone that that

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<v Speaker 6>can't happen. That took off you know, seven points, but

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<v Speaker 6>at least three points off the board for us, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>so I think they went down and they went down

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<v Speaker 6>and scored on that drive. So just you know that

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<v Speaker 6>that shouldn't happen. I can't let that happen being quarterback,

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<v Speaker 6>and I gotta be smarter there. But all in all,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a great win. You're always gonna take wins in

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<v Speaker 6>this league, and it's cool to see us fight and

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<v Speaker 6>battle through the adversity.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to taking some accountability for that terrible pick there.

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<v Speaker 1>But also they didn't follow formula right, You're not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to turn over the ball against the Steelers and give

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<v Speaker 1>them advantages that they did. They were able to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bounce back from that, but you gotta clean that

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<v Speaker 1>up second half of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Say what that the pick was the one that bothers

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<v Speaker 2>him because John the Steelers create turnovers. On that trouble

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<v Speaker 2>pass to Evan Ingram, I'm not sure he could have done.

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<v Speaker 2>He had both arms around the ball and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just perfectly time. The Steelers create turnovers, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Playing on a wet day, that kind of yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>that kind was going to happen. But even Biggs kind

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<v Speaker 4>of turnovers gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the bigbie thing, right, So during training I'm staying

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<v Speaker 2>with my son and I shake Bigsby's hand and it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like he was squeezing my hand with both He

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<v Speaker 2>has an incredible grip and so I was really surprised

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<v Speaker 2>that the ball came out. But you know, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>one guy holding him up and the other guy's pulling

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<v Speaker 2>with everything. I was still surprised the ball came out,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing how strong Bigsby is. But that's what the Steelers do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're good at it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>As much as people criticized the offense, and I get

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<v Speaker 3>that it it was staggering yesterday, meaning.

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<v Speaker 4>Could not quite get there.

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<v Speaker 3>It also played well enough against a Steelers a defense

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<v Speaker 3>that is good to get you three and then get

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<v Speaker 3>you six and get that advantage. And then even when

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<v Speaker 3>it was turning the ball over, they were getting into Steelers'

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<v Speaker 3>territory so often that it felt like the game was

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<v Speaker 3>tilted and the Steelers are always having to play uphill.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think the offense, as much as it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to get criticized this week for not for what it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't do, the fact that it had three in seventy

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<v Speaker 3>one yards twenty first downs and it was always able

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<v Speaker 3>to take momentum back from Pittsburgh and shove them back.

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<v Speaker 3>It did its job in that sense, and then again

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<v Speaker 3>I keep going back to every time it needs it

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<v Speaker 3>in this winning streak, it makes a big play. There's

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<v Speaker 3>something to be said for that in terms of trying

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<v Speaker 3>to win in this league.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with the turnovers yesterday, it felt like the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 2>held them. Yeah, like the big brother little brother. They

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<v Speaker 2>were holding them off the whole time. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of all, right, when are they gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>the play. And of course it was a beautiful play

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<v Speaker 2>on the fifty six yard at eat.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh what I was saying, Brian, that goes back to

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<v Speaker 4>what you were saying.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing going on to make you think that the

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<v Speaker 3>offense at some point is not going to have a

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<v Speaker 3>day loser of points. It's just not quite there yet.

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<v Speaker 3>If it was constant three and out, I'd really worry

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<v Speaker 3>about it. But that's not what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, scoring is down this year in this

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<v Speaker 2>league through eight games. Red zone production is down through

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<v Speaker 2>eight as we're getting here in this league right if

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<v Speaker 2>you just look at the numbers, the number of young

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks is one of the reasons why. But defenses this

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<v Speaker 2>year are playing really well. We shouldn't be surprised because

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars defense is playing well that other defenses aren't

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<v Speaker 2>lifting their level. It's just not a big year for offense,

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<v Speaker 2>at least not the first half of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, stay with us, We're gonna go over

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<v Speaker 1>was ugly, but there were some good things to very

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<v Speaker 1>memorable things, I should say as well. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first ones out of the gate was Treyvon Walker

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<v Speaker 1>getting after the quarterback. Because we know we've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>lot from Josh Allen, but Trayvon's success was impressive yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And especially Brian, I know you specifically talked about down

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton's and helping him out well.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was so timely because so many people wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to question Mike Tomlin right noted defensive coach praising Trayvon Walker.

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<v Speaker 2>There were lots of skeptics and yet here he is

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<v Speaker 2>coming out and proving that he's got it. Now. Does

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<v Speaker 2>he have a bevy of pass rush moves. No, But

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<v Speaker 2>when you see him get to the quarterback like that

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<v Speaker 2>man all of a sudden, Now, if you're the offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta start sliding back that way. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>opens things up for Josh Allen, who came up with

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<v Speaker 2>two sacks. So he is a wrecking ball and he

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<v Speaker 2>is a really good football player. This was fun to

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<v Speaker 2>see early on.

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<v Speaker 3>When he pushes the pocket, he sometimes pushes multiple people

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<v Speaker 3>back into the pocket. I don't think you can give

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<v Speaker 3>him enough credit for making it difficult to operate to

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<v Speaker 3>his side of the field. He's a dominant presence on

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<v Speaker 3>his side of the field. And I get that people

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<v Speaker 3>are frustrated by sack numbers, but I said, for a month,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to watch this team play defense without

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<v Speaker 3>Trayvon Walker on the field. And that's why he plays

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<v Speaker 3>more snaps than anybody in that group, because he's.

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<v Speaker 2>The player they don't want off the field. He's matched

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<v Speaker 2>the soldo from last year through eight games. He's got

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<v Speaker 2>nine more games. My guess is he'll end up with

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<v Speaker 2>seven or eight, and that might silence might silence people

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit here's the best part that set up

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<v Speaker 2>a third down and fifteen on a wet field for quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jaguars got the ball back and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>Trayvon's fault. They didn't score a touchdown, they just were

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<v Speaker 2>with a field goals, so he created an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 2>the offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what this team does defensively. They get other

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<v Speaker 3>teams in down in distance is a big deal for

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<v Speaker 3>play calling in this league. This defense, I haven't looked

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<v Speaker 3>at the numbers, but just the way it feels faces

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of third and sevens as opposed to third

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<v Speaker 3>and threes because of the way they play run defense

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<v Speaker 3>and early that Well, let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at some of those field goals. Obviously not opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get into the end zone. That could

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<v Speaker 1>have put the game out of the way earlier. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's shout out the kicker because I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>don't get to do that very Lochen and Brendan McManus

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<v Speaker 1>with two fifty plus yard field goals to start this game.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason in wet conditions, there's a reason you

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<v Speaker 1>go out and get a veteran kicker because you're not

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<v Speaker 1>worried as much when you see a kick. I got

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<v Speaker 1>like he was lining up for fifty plus and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, they'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are a couple of situational moments that really

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<v Speaker 3>mattered early they faced I think it was third and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one. I think it was the first drive, and

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<v Speaker 3>they got twelve yards and got back into where he kicked.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was his fifty one yarder. They got

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<v Speaker 3>just enough offensive. Like I was talking earlier, you want touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 3>but they got three to three. Well, then all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden, that gives you six, Brian, you know math

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<v Speaker 3>three six, but it gets you up a touchdown and

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<v Speaker 3>it changes the games with again the Steelers playing uphill

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<v Speaker 3>the whole game after those couple of situations where they

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<v Speaker 3>got three. That's situational coaching and playing. And I thought

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<v Speaker 3>they played smart early yesterday. I would like to invite

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<v Speaker 3>people to watch him on kickoffs. If you don't, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not as easy to tell how strong his leg

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<v Speaker 3>is on the field goals, But when you watch him

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<v Speaker 3>with basically one step and the swing of the leg

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<v Speaker 3>and he's creating a touchback for you, he doesn't need

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<v Speaker 3>the running start that a lot of kickers do. And

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<v Speaker 3>I marvel at it every time, how strong his leg is,

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<v Speaker 3>he can really kick the ball. Stunned still that he

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<v Speaker 3>was freed up from Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just another example of having the right person in

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<v Speaker 1>a role like that. So when it does come to

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<v Speaker 1>a point where you need kicks at a certain point,

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<v Speaker 1>just skip points on the board.

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<v Speaker 2>You have that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was seventeen to nineteen this year, four

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<v Speaker 3>or five from beyond fifty. That's why they went and

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<v Speaker 3>got I mean he had the leg to give. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, not a shot at who is here

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<v Speaker 3>last year. I don't know if Doug coaches the same

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<v Speaker 3>way on that field early in the game facing fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>to fifty one yard field goals, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>he's as confident doing that. That sort of shifted that,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why Doug wanted Brandwan.

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<v Speaker 2>You're intrigued, you're gonna go watch. I am intrigued. Two

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<v Speaker 2>steps of the kickoff and it's in the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it all right? What we have next? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>the turnovers, those were not ideal, but you know, it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens first. I think the Trevor one is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the only inexcusable one for me. I didn't love the

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<v Speaker 1>play call with Evans fumble, but I mean that is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. That's with the weather situation. It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got knocked out there, but it's what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a perfectly time tip this one. John about

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<v Speaker 2>every six or seven games, we're going to see him

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<v Speaker 2>make a throw that you go watch you throw that one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably just who he is.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think it's he's been like we've watched him.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like a while now.

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<v Speaker 4>He's still midway through his third season.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>I covered Peyton Manning a long time, and I covered

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<v Speaker 3>him through some years where he didn't make throws like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I also started covering him in his fourth year, and

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<v Speaker 3>in the fourth year he had twenty eight interceptions for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six rather than number one.

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<v Speaker 4>It can take time.

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<v Speaker 3>For these guys to get that muscle memory of I

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<v Speaker 3>do not throw the ball in this situation. This is

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<v Speaker 3>it so look yes, bad play, but a really good

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<v Speaker 3>play to make up for the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>Without a doubt.

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.760
<v Speaker 3>He's six and two five and at the end of

0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:20.080
<v Speaker 3>last season they've won eleven in their last thirteen games

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<v Speaker 3>under this skit.

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<v Speaker 2>That is why you don't worry too much about it.

0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:25.040
<v Speaker 2>He's just he's gonna take chances here and there. He's

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<v Speaker 2>done it since he got here.

0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.480
<v Speaker 3>And overall he's playing much smarter in these situations this

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<v Speaker 3>year than he did last year. This was more of

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<v Speaker 3>a one off the last year's.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard in the post game he said, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>your work on that. But he's he's a gunslinger in

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:38.439
<v Speaker 2>that sense. He's gonna take those throws over once in

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<v Speaker 2>a while.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely a gun slinger. Let's look at Etn's touchdown

0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and the two point conversion, because obviously ETN has been

0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the heart and soul of this offense and the success

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:51.000
<v Speaker 1>they've had. But catching and running not just a rushing

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:52.960
<v Speaker 1>touchdown this time, and it looked a little slow. In

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<v Speaker 1>the back end. I was like, we're gonna put the

0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.439
<v Speaker 1>jets on there and there's gonna get you. But to

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<v Speaker 1>see the kind of wheeling out and catching that, well,

0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 1>he's not a screen pass. It's something we don't always

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<v Speaker 1>see from him.

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<v Speaker 2>The corner was breaking thinking I got this on that

0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 2>stick route and the safety couldn't get over there fast enough.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you know. They talked to the postgame about they

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<v Speaker 2>know each other and that was a beautiful move by

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<v Speaker 2>two guys who know each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I thought a couple of things were cool here.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, it was the longest pass play they've had.

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 4>And they've played together.

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.680
<v Speaker 3>What is I think it's six seasons on the field together.

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.520
<v Speaker 3>There was some talk last week about Calvin Ridley being

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<v Speaker 3>frustrated being whatever did you see the spike after the play?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was more excited than ethm One.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that a selfish player doesn't do that in that situation, don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't make too much out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But he came along and he spiked and celebrated his teammates.

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 3>I've covered some wide receivers who wouldn't be spiking the

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<v Speaker 3>ball for their teammate getting a touchdown. Not that they

0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 3>were rooting against their team, but they wanted to touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought that was pretty indicative of like where

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<v Speaker 3>Calvin's head is.

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<v Speaker 2>Something Calvin said in the locker room right before the

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<v Speaker 2>season sticks with me. He goes, I just want to win.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's real.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody says they just want to win, right, but some

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 3>players don't act like they just want to win.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, to me, that play.

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<v Speaker 1>Showed something absolutely Later on we saw Steelers try to

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>mount a little bit of a comeback. They got their

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>first touchdown of the day, the only touchdown of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>and the waning seconds of the third quarter. Pickens is

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<v Speaker 1>the real deal. I mean, he probably shouldn't be talking

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<v Speaker 1>as much as he does in the locker room, but

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 1>he's impressive on the field when they get him the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's I don't know how to describe him. He's

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<v Speaker 2>got sort of a Randy Moss style body. He's tall

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:40.080
<v Speaker 2>and he's long, and he could jump. And he just

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 2>leapt over the safety or was it the quarter that

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 2>was coming underneath and Dewey was over the top I mean,

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 2>or de dow he came underneath. That's just a great play.

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Great players can make great plays.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Jaguars secondary would say that one catch

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<v Speaker 4>he had was awesome.

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just the one I mean.

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 3>And that was a storyline afterward. I never really understood

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 3>what Hope defense meant. I couldn't quite figure out that.

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<v Speaker 3>All credit to metriz Party from the Times Union for

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<v Speaker 3>writing I guess they were mad, but I didn't really

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 3>understand what he meant by it. But it was just

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<v Speaker 3>enough to get him angry, and you know he.

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<v Speaker 4>He talked in the Jaguars they responded.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they did a nice job on a really good player.

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.879
<v Speaker 2>He is a very hard guy to cover and they

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 2>did an excellent job on him.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to give do you a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a shout out because he was putting in a tough

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<v Speaker 1>spot coming in starting and he did well. He made

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 1>some plays and one of the biggest plays of the

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>day got his interception. Probably more talking about his touchdown

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>after the fact, but what stew he meant to this

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>team when you've seen what he's been able to do

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<v Speaker 1>as well, just because he's a captain this year. Kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the way he started here to becoming a fan

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>favorite the way he is, He's had quite a journey.

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<v Speaker 2>He started as a guy kai and every team has

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 2>one of these guys that you're always trying to replace.

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's not tall enough, he's not fast, he's

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 2>not big enough, and it was a special teams guy.

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 2>And then last year against Baltimore and Dallas, Uh, he

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.399
<v Speaker 2>found his role. I mean he made a couple of

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 2>plays on third and fourth down late in the ball

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 2>game that helped steal those wins. And then he came

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 2>up with it. It was always the Jags. And now

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what did he say, I'm a dog, I'm

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 2>a sleeping dog. Yeah, but the best the dog move

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 2>was swinging the towel. Freaking loved that.

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and again Steelers fans were mad about it.

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 4>I saw one tweet somebody said they should arrest him.

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 4>He stole a towel.

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Look, this league, in this game is supposed to be fun. Yes, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>duey after the game, and he's my hot takes. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>say some of it. But he told Brent martineaud I

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 3>thoughd to me lockhom for a few minutes and he said, Hey,

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 3>we've got San Francisco, Baltimore, Cincinnati coming in. Isn't that awesome? Yeah, Like,

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.719
<v Speaker 3>this is a kid who loves what he's doing, loves playing.

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:07.880
<v Speaker 3>The fans see it, his teammates love him. I think

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 3>you had him cut in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 4>Safety.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna make it hard on him, and he is

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 2>and he has played better than both. Although it's nice

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 2>to see Antonio Johnson, no doubt, no doubt, but what

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 2>he has become, no, I didn't. We'll have to atable

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 2>part about it. You can go back and pull the

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 2>tape and see it where I said they're going to

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 2>make it hard on him, but he has risen to

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 2>the occasion that he has been granted on this team,

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and he's gonna be one of those guys who plays

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 2>here ten or eleven years.

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.679
<v Speaker 1>He's making it work. We love to see it, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>say with us, We're gonna have hot takes coming up

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<v Speaker 1>today back here in the studios for jags am on

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<v Speaker 1>victory Monday and jag Zam's always better on a victory Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go over some of our hot takes for

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 1>this team. Brian, what's your hot take for us today?

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not sure how hot this one is, but

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Speaker 2>a good decision, smart decision, maybe even a great decision

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 2>by Doug yesterday to keep all those guys who were

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 2>injured on the sidelines, right, And maybe it was easy

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 2>because the field was wet and you saw what happened

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>with makeup Fitzpatrick. But they made the decision, and it

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 2>would have been easy to understand why you try to

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 2>give it a go with Cisco and Tyson Campbell because

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 2>you want to get to six to two and headed

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 2>into bye week with some momentum. But Walker Little didn't play,

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 2>and obviously Zay Jones was ruled out on Friday. Being patient,

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>trusting the guys, trusting your coaching staff is a really

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 2>smart move, and it gives them the opportunity to have

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.120
<v Speaker 2>everybody on the field when they host the forty nine

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 2>Ers here in two weeks.

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think he knew or felt like

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 3>they could control that game against that team. Without those guys,

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 3>you're always risking, you know. I was concerned when Campbell

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 3>and Cisco weren't playing, because if the Steelers had a

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 3>way to beat you, it was with two very good

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:23.640
<v Speaker 3>receivers maybe making some flukey pull I wanna say flukey,

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 3>but making some big plays with a couple of communication

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 3>breakdowns and new guys for that might happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Credit to him for not letting it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your hot take force today? Je, I know it's

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>very eloquent. And I made sure they say, I'm I'm

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>sure your graphic was spelled the way one.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we already talked to him a little bit.

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:49.479
<v Speaker 3>But he's a special teams player and a backup and

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 3>yet during this winning stretch, since it started earlier last year,

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 3>in a way sort of become the face of the franchise. Yeah.

0:28:58.160 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I was just about to say, he's the heartbeat of

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>that lockerwood.

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 3>And uh, you know, I remember asking somebody early early

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:10.479
<v Speaker 3>maybe the last training camp about him and they're like, oh,

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 3>he's on the team, Like, you're not getting rid of

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 3>this guy. And last year when he was a free agent,

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 3>afterward on getaway day, I was talking to him. Has

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 3>he been on a podcast? When we had talked a

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 3>little bit, and I said, hey, good luck and hope

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 3>you're back. He gets there was no question he wanted

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 3>to be here. This is where he wants to play now.

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 3>He flirted with Tennessee a little bit, and but what

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 3>a remarkable thing he has done. But even beyond that,

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 3>a huge pass breakup yesterday, a huge interception two huge hits,

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 3>he does things, he jumps out on the tape.

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<v Speaker 2>Who he is, uh, he's linguard. He's a guy. Remember

0:29:56.560 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Jerry Olshawski. They're the great Steelers era of the late

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 2>nineties and early two thousand. There was a backup linebacker

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 2>and a special team's team and they called him Jerry O.

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 2>And no matter what when you talked about the Steelers,

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 2>the Steelers talked about Jerry Oh. We had a guy

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>here back in the early days named Bram Boyer who's

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 2>now the special teams coordinator for the New York Jets.

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's the guy. He was always too short.

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 2>He was cut six times in nineteen ninety five, and

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 2>they kept bringing him back and bringing him back, and

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 2>he's been in the league for twenty eight twenty nine

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>years now. This is what this guy is. He loves football,

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned earlier, but he's a good player. If

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have the skills set in terms of the

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 2>height in the and the length and the athletic ability,

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 2>he more than overcomes it with his passion and his intelligence.

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 2>So he's a guy who's going to be this team's

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>next BRANP. Boyer, next Jerry Oh. He's gonna be around

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 2>here for a long time.

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 4>Very good.

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>My hot take this week is that sometimes it's better

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to be lucky than good, And by that I mean

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>some of the reactions after the game yesterday, in particular

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>from the Steelers' locker room, had me laughing because we

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>are now at a point in Jaguars football where people

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>think the refs are pulling for the Jaguars to get

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>a win over historic franchise like the Pittsburgh Steelers. So congratulations,

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Jaguars fans. We are now at a point where the

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>team is so successful that people the opponent is complaining

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>that the refs are rigging it.

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>What kind of fine do we think Deontay Johnson is

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 2>going to get for his long diet tribe about the

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 2>officials lack of integrity? Yeah, I guess he's going to be.

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 4>I guess he could have caught the first pass of

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 4>the game, right.

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh No, but it was the refs. Well, the refs

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>were bad in general, I will say, but I don't

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>think it was specifically anybody.

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>The refs were good. Nobody ever says that.

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just I can't think that that affected any

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>outcome of the game. When you didn't score a touchdown

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>until almost the beginning of the fourth quarter. So I

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>say that in a joke as well.

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 3>But honestly, I thought the Bigsby call could have gone

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 3>the other way.

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was down personally, but I thought, I

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>think the way.

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<v Speaker 4>They never really seen that where they now.

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<v Speaker 3>And then well, nor the fields different because if they're

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<v Speaker 3>ruling on the field being the other.

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<v Speaker 4>Way, the Jared's probably keep the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they never would all turned it.

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<v Speaker 3>And there were a couple of plays. Look, you can

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<v Speaker 3>always pick apart plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing how the officiating is usually worse for the

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<v Speaker 3>losing team.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so weird how that works out. Anyway, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back as we discussed what we've got going on

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<v Speaker 1>for fans. Welcome back to jag Zam. We've got bye

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<v Speaker 1>week coming up. So what are you guys looking at

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of bye week stuff to do? I like to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take a little bit of a break away

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<v Speaker 1>from football and then kind of sit in front of

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<v Speaker 1>my TV for Red Zone on Sundays. But what do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys got planned for yourselves? Not? John's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>share it, doesn't want to show. Okay, feed up.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's it. I mean, you know, porch Fest

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<v Speaker 4>and Springfield on Saturday. Ye, that's what I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing, getting caught up. You know, the last month has

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<v Speaker 2>been crazy, and there's all sorts of things around the

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<v Speaker 2>house we have to do, right It's yard work, wool work,

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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff. And it's nice to go

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<v Speaker 2>into the second half of the season not thinking all

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<v Speaker 2>these things I have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's nice to have a little bit of a break.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also we should say that we will be

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<v Speaker 1>here the first half of this week because trade deadline

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<v Speaker 1>comes up on Tuesday afternoon. You guys think there's any

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<v Speaker 1>moves to be made or I would be surprised at

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<v Speaker 1>this point just because of how well we played, But

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<v Speaker 1>then again, anything can happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be surprised because you got to measure short term expense.

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<v Speaker 3>This team has salary cap issues coming up. Anything that

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<v Speaker 3>you get goes up against that at some point. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they're not going to ignore. I mean, but it's got

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<v Speaker 3>to make sense in terms of equity, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of wonder if they'll find anything like, Yeah, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hesitate to give away your first round pick, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the first round. People go, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the first round. Well, that was anti

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison this year? Would you trade that away? Right? And

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<v Speaker 2>you can't trade your second right now because it's tied

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<v Speaker 2>up with the Calvin Johnson or Calvin Ridley situation. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't feel like I got to go out

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<v Speaker 2>and find more pass rush help. I mean, the sack

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<v Speaker 2>numbers you'd like to see increase, and I think they will,

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<v Speaker 2>but the pressure's pretty good. So I just I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>give away my first for a guy that I might

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<v Speaker 2>not be able to resign with all the other guys

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give, I'd be very cautious. I certainly

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't give away a first then, Yeah, then you're probably

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<v Speaker 2>not You're probably not acquiring.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone, probably standing Pat. All right, that's it for us

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<v Speaker 1>this week. We're gonna enjoy our bye week. We hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy yours. We'll be back here on Monday for

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<v Speaker 1>jag Xam next week as we get ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers game, it's c