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Speaker 1: What's your letter grade for them so far this season?

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Speaker 2: Has to be an A. Six and two with what

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Speaker 1: A welcome into Jags am Kayannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osier.

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Speaker 1: A's all around for this team because you can complain,

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Speaker 1: you can say they're winning it ugly and they're not

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Speaker 1: just remarkable that they've been able to do this. I

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Speaker 2: Do it as well, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 2: I think they could get the six of two. That

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Speaker 2: I think all of us, John were saying, all right, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, how long is it gonna take for this

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Speaker 2: take very long. The next week they started turning this

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Speaker 2: they have gone from what was that getting the Texans

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's the NFL. I mean, nobody expected the

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Speaker 3: feels that. You know, if somebody last night saying, well

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Speaker 3: be six and two. They've really played their way to

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Speaker 3: I think they deserve to be the front running team

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Speaker 4: They haven't trailed.

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Speaker 3: They've trailed for about five minutes in the last five weeks.

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Speaker 3: It didn't trail yesterday, didn't it didn't trail and anything

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Speaker 4: In the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You can't play better than that in terms of making

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Speaker 2: No, Listen, you could see the upside offensively. Right when

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Speaker 2: you look at the Miami Dolphins, for instance, they are

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Speaker 3: Here's my final thow on the offense before we move on.

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Speaker 3: I get that it's frustrating, but I don't think it's tragic.

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Speaker 3: you can feel It's not that they couldn't move yesterday.

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Speaker 3: They were always inside the Pittsburgh thirty five. They just

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Speaker 3: I've covered offense that had where people were charting consecutive

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Speaker 4: This isn't that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think this is sort of indicative the league

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's go over our big things. We

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Speaker 1: To I know we've talked a little bit about this

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Speaker 2: And astute observer the Jaggers a long time could go

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Speaker 2: This is a talented team and Doug Peterson's staff are

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Speaker 3: I think if you really gave Doug the honesty pill,

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Speaker 3: I don't think you think the defense is going away.

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Speaker 4: It needs it.

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Speaker 3: The last two weeks, forty four yard touchdown to win it,

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Speaker 2: They saw it. This is a really good coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, from the head coach and the coordinators

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Speaker 2: I think this might be the best coaching staff from

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Speaker 1: Let's go to our second big thing, which is defense.

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Speaker 1: Had today. We can give a lot of credit to

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Speaker 5: You know, It's something that I told the team, you know,

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Speaker 1: So when you come into the game yesterday against Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: He saw the first play of the game they went

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Speaker 4: Here's a you know.

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Speaker 3: In the ozone late night last night, I wrote that

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Speaker 3: And I didn't write that to be insulting. I said

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Speaker 3: spectacular because it's it's now what we expect from this.

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Speaker 3: But this is a good front seven. I said it

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Speaker 1: Try to taking some accountability for that terrible pick there.

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Speaker 2: Say what that the pick was the one that bothers

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Speaker 3: It did its job in that sense, and then again

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Speaker 2: Even with the turnovers yesterday, it felt like the Jaguars

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Speaker 4: Oh what I was saying, Brian, that goes back to

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Speaker 3: There's nothing going on to make you think that the

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Speaker 2: By the way, scoring is down this year in this

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, stay with us, We're gonna go over

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Speaker 1: It happens first. I think the Trevor one is probably

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Speaker 1: the only inexcusable one for me. I didn't love the

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Speaker 1: play call with Evans fumble, but I mean that is

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Speaker 1: what it is. That's with the weather situation. It kind

440
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Speaker 1: of got knocked out there, but it's what they do.

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Speaker 2: It was a perfectly time tip this one. John about

442
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Speaker 2: every six or seven games, we're going to see him

443
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Speaker 2: make a throw that you go watch you throw that one.

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Speaker 2: That's probably just who he is.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: I also think it's he's been like we've watched him.

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Speaker 3: It feels like a while now.

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Speaker 4: He's still midway through his third season.

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Speaker 2: You know, I.

450
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Speaker 3: I covered Peyton Manning a long time, and I covered

451
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Speaker 3: him through some years where he didn't make throws like this.

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Speaker 3: I also started covering him in his fourth year, and

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Speaker 3: in the fourth year he had twenty eight interceptions for

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Speaker 3: twenty six rather than number one.

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Speaker 4: It can take time.

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Speaker 3: For these guys to get that muscle memory of I

457
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Speaker 3: do not throw the ball in this situation. This is

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Speaker 3: it so look yes, bad play, but a really good

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Speaker 3: play to make up for the second half.

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Speaker 2: Without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: He's six and two five and at the end of

462
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Speaker 3: last season they've won eleven in their last thirteen games

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Speaker 3: under this skit.

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Speaker 2: That is why you don't worry too much about it.

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Speaker 2: He's just he's gonna take chances here and there. He's

466
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Speaker 2: done it since he got here.

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Speaker 3: And overall he's playing much smarter in these situations this

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Speaker 3: year than he did last year. This was more of

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Speaker 3: a one off the last year's.

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Speaker 2: You heard in the post game he said, he's got

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Speaker 2: your work on that. But he's he's a gunslinger in

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Speaker 2: that sense. He's gonna take those throws over once in

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Speaker 2: a while.

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Speaker 1: He's definitely a gun slinger. Let's look at Etn's touchdown

475
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Speaker 1: and the two point conversion, because obviously ETN has been

476
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Speaker 1: the heart and soul of this offense and the success

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Speaker 1: they've had. But catching and running not just a rushing

478
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Speaker 1: touchdown this time, and it looked a little slow. In

479
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Speaker 1: the back end. I was like, we're gonna put the

480
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Speaker 1: jets on there and there's gonna get you. But to

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Speaker 1: see the kind of wheeling out and catching that, well,

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Speaker 1: he's not a screen pass. It's something we don't always

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Speaker 1: see from him.

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Speaker 2: The corner was breaking thinking I got this on that

485
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Speaker 2: stick route and the safety couldn't get over there fast enough.

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Speaker 2: That's you know. They talked to the postgame about they

487
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Speaker 2: know each other and that was a beautiful move by

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Speaker 2: two guys who know each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought a couple of things were cool here.

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Speaker 3: First of all, it was the longest pass play they've had.

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Speaker 4: And they've played together.

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Speaker 3: What is I think it's six seasons on the field together.

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Speaker 3: There was some talk last week about Calvin Ridley being

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Speaker 3: frustrated being whatever did you see the spike after the play?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was more excited than ethm One.

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Speaker 3: Well that a selfish player doesn't do that in that situation, don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't make too much out of it.

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Speaker 3: But he came along and he spiked and celebrated his teammates.

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Speaker 3: I've covered some wide receivers who wouldn't be spiking the

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Speaker 3: ball for their teammate getting a touchdown. Not that they

501
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Speaker 3: were rooting against their team, but they wanted to touchdown.

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Speaker 3: So I thought that was pretty indicative of like where

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Speaker 3: Calvin's head is.

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Speaker 2: Something Calvin said in the locker room right before the

505
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Speaker 2: season sticks with me. He goes, I just want to win.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's real.

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Speaker 3: Everybody says they just want to win, right, but some

508
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Speaker 3: players don't act like they just want to win.

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Speaker 4: I know, to me, that play.

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Speaker 1: Showed something absolutely Later on we saw Steelers try to

511
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Speaker 1: mount a little bit of a comeback. They got their

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Speaker 1: first touchdown of the day, the only touchdown of the day,

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Speaker 1: and the waning seconds of the third quarter. Pickens is

514
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Speaker 1: the real deal. I mean, he probably shouldn't be talking

515
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Speaker 1: as much as he does in the locker room, but

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Speaker 1: he's impressive on the field when they get him the ball.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's I don't know how to describe him. He's

518
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Speaker 2: got sort of a Randy Moss style body. He's tall

519
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Speaker 2: and he's long, and he could jump. And he just

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Speaker 2: leapt over the safety or was it the quarter that

521
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Speaker 2: was coming underneath and Dewey was over the top I mean,

522
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Speaker 2: or de dow he came underneath. That's just a great play.

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Speaker 2: Great players can make great plays.

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Speaker 4: I think the Jaguars secondary would say that one catch

525
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Speaker 4: he had was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just the one I mean.

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Speaker 3: And that was a storyline afterward. I never really understood

528
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Speaker 3: what Hope defense meant. I couldn't quite figure out that.

529
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Speaker 3: All credit to metriz Party from the Times Union for

530
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Speaker 3: writing I guess they were mad, but I didn't really

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Speaker 3: understand what he meant by it. But it was just

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Speaker 3: enough to get him angry, and you know he.

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Speaker 4: He talked in the Jaguars they responded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did a nice job on a really good player.

535
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Speaker 2: He is a very hard guy to cover and they

536
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Speaker 2: did an excellent job on him.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to give do you a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a shout out because he was putting in a tough

539
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Speaker 1: spot coming in starting and he did well. He made

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Speaker 1: some plays and one of the biggest plays of the

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Speaker 1: day got his interception. Probably more talking about his touchdown

542
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Speaker 1: after the fact, but what stew he meant to this

543
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Speaker 1: team when you've seen what he's been able to do

544
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Speaker 1: as well, just because he's a captain this year. Kind

545
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Speaker 1: of the way he started here to becoming a fan

546
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Speaker 1: favorite the way he is, He's had quite a journey.

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Speaker 2: He started as a guy kai and every team has

548
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Speaker 2: one of these guys that you're always trying to replace.

549
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Speaker 2: You know, he's not tall enough, he's not fast, he's

550
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Speaker 2: not big enough, and it was a special teams guy.

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Speaker 2: And then last year against Baltimore and Dallas, Uh, he

552
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Speaker 2: found his role. I mean he made a couple of

553
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Speaker 2: plays on third and fourth down late in the ball

554
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: game that helped steal those wins. And then he came

555
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Speaker 2: up with it. It was always the Jags. And now

556
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Speaker 2: I mean, what did he say, I'm a dog, I'm

557
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Speaker 2: a sleeping dog. Yeah, but the best the dog move

558
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Speaker 2: was swinging the towel. Freaking loved that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again Steelers fans were mad about it.

560
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Speaker 4: I saw one tweet somebody said they should arrest him.

561
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Speaker 4: He stole a towel.

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Speaker 3: Look, this league, in this game is supposed to be fun. Yes, uh,

563
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Speaker 3: duey after the game, and he's my hot takes. I'll

564
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Speaker 3: say some of it. But he told Brent martineaud I

565
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Speaker 3: thoughd to me lockhom for a few minutes and he said, Hey,

566
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Speaker 3: we've got San Francisco, Baltimore, Cincinnati coming in. Isn't that awesome? Yeah, Like,

567
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Speaker 3: this is a kid who loves what he's doing, loves playing.

568
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Speaker 3: The fans see it, his teammates love him. I think

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Speaker 3: you had him cut in the preseason.

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Speaker 4: Safety.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna make it hard on him, and he is

572
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Speaker 2: and he has played better than both. Although it's nice

573
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: to see Antonio Johnson, no doubt, no doubt, but what

574
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Speaker 2: he has become, no, I didn't. We'll have to atable

575
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Speaker 2: part about it. You can go back and pull the

576
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Speaker 2: tape and see it where I said they're going to

577
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: make it hard on him, but he has risen to

578
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Speaker 2: the occasion that he has been granted on this team,

579
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Speaker 2: and he's gonna be one of those guys who plays

580
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Speaker 2: here ten or eleven years.

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Speaker 1: He's making it work. We love to see it, all right,

582
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Speaker 1: say with us, We're gonna have hot takes coming up

583
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Speaker 1: today back here in the studios for jags am on

590
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: victory Monday and jag Zam's always better on a victory Monday.

591
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Speaker 1: So let's go over some of our hot takes for

592
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Speaker 1: this team. Brian, what's your hot take for us today?

593
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure how hot this one is, but

594
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 2: a good decision, smart decision, maybe even a great decision

595
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: by Doug yesterday to keep all those guys who were

596
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Speaker 2: injured on the sidelines, right, And maybe it was easy

597
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: because the field was wet and you saw what happened

598
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Speaker 2: with makeup Fitzpatrick. But they made the decision, and it

599
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: would have been easy to understand why you try to

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Speaker 2: give it a go with Cisco and Tyson Campbell because

601
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Speaker 2: you want to get to six to two and headed

602
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: into bye week with some momentum. But Walker Little didn't play,

603
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: and obviously Zay Jones was ruled out on Friday. Being patient,

604
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: trusting the guys, trusting your coaching staff is a really

605
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: smart move, and it gives them the opportunity to have

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Speaker 2: everybody on the field when they host the forty nine

607
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Speaker 2: Ers here in two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think he knew or felt like

609
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: they could control that game against that team. Without those guys,

610
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Speaker 3: you're always risking, you know. I was concerned when Campbell

611
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: and Cisco weren't playing, because if the Steelers had a

612
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: way to beat you, it was with two very good

613
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Speaker 3: receivers maybe making some flukey pull I wanna say flukey,

614
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: but making some big plays with a couple of communication

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Speaker 3: breakdowns and new guys for that might happen.

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Speaker 4: Credit to him for not letting it happen.

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Speaker 1: What's your hot take force today? Je, I know it's

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Speaker 1: very eloquent. And I made sure they say, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: sure your graphic was spelled the way one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we already talked to him a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But he's a special teams player and a backup and

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Speaker 3: yet during this winning stretch, since it started earlier last year,

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Speaker 3: in a way sort of become the face of the franchise. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was just about to say, he's the heartbeat of

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Speaker 2: that lockerwood.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I remember asking somebody early early

628
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Speaker 3: maybe the last training camp about him and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: he's on the team, Like, you're not getting rid of

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Speaker 3: this guy. And last year when he was a free agent,

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Speaker 3: afterward on getaway day, I was talking to him. Has

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Speaker 3: he been on a podcast? When we had talked a

633
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Speaker 3: little bit, and I said, hey, good luck and hope

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Speaker 3: you're back. He gets there was no question he wanted

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Speaker 3: to be here. This is where he wants to play now.

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Speaker 3: He flirted with Tennessee a little bit, and but what

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Speaker 3: a remarkable thing he has done. But even beyond that,

638
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Speaker 3: a huge pass breakup yesterday, a huge interception two huge hits,

639
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Speaker 3: he does things, he jumps out on the tape.

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Speaker 2: Who he is, uh, he's linguard. He's a guy. Remember

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Speaker 2: Jerry Olshawski. They're the great Steelers era of the late

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Speaker 2: nineties and early two thousand. There was a backup linebacker

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Speaker 2: and a special team's team and they called him Jerry O.

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Speaker 2: And no matter what when you talked about the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: the Steelers talked about Jerry Oh. We had a guy

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Speaker 2: here back in the early days named Bram Boyer who's

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Speaker 2: now the special teams coordinator for the New York Jets.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's the guy. He was always too short.

649
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: He was cut six times in nineteen ninety five, and

650
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Speaker 2: they kept bringing him back and bringing him back, and

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Speaker 2: he's been in the league for twenty eight twenty nine

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Speaker 2: years now. This is what this guy is. He loves football,

653
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned earlier, but he's a good player. If

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have the skills set in terms of the

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Speaker 2: height in the and the length and the athletic ability,

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Speaker 2: he more than overcomes it with his passion and his intelligence.

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Speaker 2: So he's a guy who's going to be this team's

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Speaker 2: next BRANP. Boyer, next Jerry Oh. He's gonna be around

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Speaker 2: here for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Very good.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: My hot take this week is that sometimes it's better

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Speaker 1: to be lucky than good, And by that I mean

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Speaker 1: some of the reactions after the game yesterday, in particular

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Speaker 1: from the Steelers' locker room, had me laughing because we

666
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Speaker 1: are now at a point in Jaguars football where people

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Speaker 1: think the refs are pulling for the Jaguars to get

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Speaker 1: a win over historic franchise like the Pittsburgh Steelers. So congratulations,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars fans. We are now at a point where the

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Speaker 1: team is so successful that people the opponent is complaining

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Speaker 1: that the refs are rigging it.

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Speaker 2: What kind of fine do we think Deontay Johnson is

673
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Speaker 2: going to get for his long diet tribe about the

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Speaker 2: officials lack of integrity? Yeah, I guess he's going to be.

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Speaker 4: I guess he could have caught the first pass of

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Speaker 4: the game, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh No, but it was the refs. Well, the refs

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Speaker 1: were bad in general, I will say, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think it was specifically anybody.

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Speaker 2: The refs were good. Nobody ever says that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I can't think that that affected any

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Speaker 1: outcome of the game. When you didn't score a touchdown

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Speaker 1: until almost the beginning of the fourth quarter. So I

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Speaker 1: say that in a joke as well.

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Speaker 3: But honestly, I thought the Bigsby call could have gone

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Speaker 3: the other way.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was down personally, but I thought, I

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Speaker 1: think the way.

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Speaker 4: They never really seen that where they now.

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Speaker 3: And then well, nor the fields different because if they're

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Speaker 3: ruling on the field being the other.

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Speaker 4: Way, the Jared's probably keep the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they never would all turned it.

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Speaker 3: And there were a couple of plays. Look, you can

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Speaker 3: always pick apart plays.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing how the officiating is usually worse for the

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Speaker 3: losing team.

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Speaker 1: It's so weird how that works out. Anyway, we'll be

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Speaker 1: right back as we discussed what we've got going on

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Speaker 1: in the beginning of bye week and then the rest

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Speaker 1: for fans. Welcome back to jag Zam. We've got bye

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Speaker 1: week coming up. So what are you guys looking at

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Speaker 1: in terms of bye week stuff to do? I like to,

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Speaker 1: you know, take a little bit of a break away

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Speaker 1: from football and then kind of sit in front of

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Speaker 1: my TV for Red Zone on Sundays. But what do

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Speaker 1: you guys got planned for yourselves? Not? John's not gonna

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Speaker 1: share it, doesn't want to show. Okay, feed up.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's it. I mean, you know, porch Fest

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Speaker 4: and Springfield on Saturday. Ye, that's what I'm.

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Speaker 2: Doing, getting caught up. You know, the last month has

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Speaker 2: been crazy, and there's all sorts of things around the

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00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: house we have to do, right It's yard work, wool work,

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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. And it's nice to go

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Speaker 2: into the second half of the season not thinking all

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Speaker 2: these things I have to do.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's nice to have a little bit of a break.

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Speaker 1: And then also we should say that we will be

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Speaker 1: here the first half of this week because trade deadline

724
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Speaker 1: comes up on Tuesday afternoon. You guys think there's any

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Speaker 1: moves to be made or I would be surprised at

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Speaker 1: this point just because of how well we played, But

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Speaker 1: then again, anything can happen.

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Speaker 3: I'd be surprised because you got to measure short term expense.

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Speaker 3: This team has salary cap issues coming up. Anything that

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Speaker 3: you get goes up against that at some point. Maybe

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Speaker 3: they're not going to ignore. I mean, but it's got

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Speaker 3: to make sense in terms of equity, and I just

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Speaker 3: kind of wonder if they'll find anything like, Yeah, and you.

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Speaker 2: Hesitate to give away your first round pick, I mean

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the first round. People go, it's just

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the first round. Well, that was anti

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Speaker 2: Harrison this year? Would you trade that away? Right? And

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Speaker 2: you can't trade your second right now because it's tied

739
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Speaker 2: up with the Calvin Johnson or Calvin Ridley situation. So

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Speaker 2: I just don't feel like I got to go out

741
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Speaker 2: and find more pass rush help. I mean, the sack

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Speaker 2: numbers you'd like to see increase, and I think they will,

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Speaker 2: but the pressure's pretty good. So I just I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: give away my first for a guy that I might

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Speaker 2: not be able to resign with all the other guys

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Speaker 2: I want to give, I'd be very cautious. I certainly

747
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Speaker 2: wouldn't give away a first then, Yeah, then you're probably

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Speaker 2: not You're probably not acquiring.

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Speaker 1: Anyone, probably standing Pat. All right, that's it for us

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Speaker 1: this week. We're gonna enjoy our bye week. We hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy yours. We'll be back here on Monday for

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Speaker 1: jag Xam next week as we get ready for the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers game, it's c