WEBVTT - #48 Brainspotting

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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck At Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody, welcome to an

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<v Speaker 1>all new episode of Help I Suck At Dating. Mrs

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Haven, I'm back in studio from my long vacation

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<v Speaker 1>over East, joined always by the beautiful Dean unglair Mark

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<v Speaker 1>and Easton in studio. Everybody round in Claus round and

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<v Speaker 1>plus Vanessa is not here this week, but we do

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<v Speaker 1>have a very special guest who's on the phone right now,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a surprise for Dean. Dean, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>who this person is? Okay, so it's renowned l A

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<v Speaker 1>legendary chef Roy Choy. Now that's not the reason for

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<v Speaker 1>the surprise. Wait, I think I do know who it is. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>who do you think it is the reason for the surprize?

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead because there's a pop up hot Cheeto restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>three days wait are you kidding me? And on the

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<v Speaker 1>line right now. And for people that don't know, Dean Love,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to make a reservation at the New York

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant last year, didn't get to do it. I try

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<v Speaker 1>to make a reservation at the l A restaurant this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Book solid, Well, we have the right person that you

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<v Speaker 1>can contact for a reservation. He's on the one right now. Roy,

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<v Speaker 1>are you out there? Yes, you can't get home stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like this, you guys, Oh my god. Wait we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to the next part of surprise at a second, but

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Roy about this amazing thing they're doing. Roy,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? Will you fill us in a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about what you've been doing? Yeah, Hello, I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>right now. We're getting set up for tonight. Tonight see

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<v Speaker 1>opening night pop up of the Flaming Hot Chee Spot

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible Spot restaurant. It's the three day pop up using

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<v Speaker 1>flaming hot Cheetos and everything like everything, which just sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like my dream restaurant, which makes me I'm so honored

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<v Speaker 1>to have you on here with us because as anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that follows me on Instagram or is just close to

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<v Speaker 1>me or anyone knows, I'm obsessed with hot Cheetos, every

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<v Speaker 1>single kind of hot Cheeto, whether it's the regular one,

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<v Speaker 1>is the extra extra hots, the spicy lamon ones, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they are. Um, tell us a little bit about maybe

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<v Speaker 1>what inspired you for all of this stuff, because if

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<v Speaker 1>I was a culinary artist such as you, I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would do the exact same thing, but obviously not quite

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<v Speaker 1>to the ability that you're able to do it. So

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<v Speaker 1>tell us kind of where you got the inspiration all

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff from. Yeah, you gotta come by,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got every flavor. I think for me it

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<v Speaker 1>was this was looking to my fun side, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, I'm very I'm a very serious person,

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<v Speaker 1>but like we all have a fun side, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is my fun side. And what my fun side really

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<v Speaker 1>is is Kokee and Chego. I'm out there on the

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<v Speaker 1>streets cooking tacos and burritos and capes Sadilla's, and then

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<v Speaker 1>at Chego we're making rice buls. So it's like, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>the fans that love our food love hot cheetos, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, let's make our food but with hot cheetos.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what we did. I'm sorry. You got

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<v Speaker 1>your start with fruit trucks, right, Yeah, with Kokee, the

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<v Speaker 1>Kokee Korean Barbecui talkbook trucks. That's awesome. And then then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so now you're you're onto Cheetos, which is amazing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at some of the entrees here, Dean has anything

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<v Speaker 1>catching your eye, because everything is catching my eye right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The main thing I want, I really want to try

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<v Speaker 1>is to flame and hot ranch wings everything. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>flaming hot Chipotle ranch wings sounds amazing in front of mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is amazing. And then there's a Cheetos sweet and

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<v Speaker 1>spicy chili meatballs. Good God in heaven. It sounds like heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really good. It's like sweet and sweet and spicy together,

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<v Speaker 1>really good. Broy, do you like hot Cheetos? I love them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my number one snack. So that's just what you

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<v Speaker 1>were like. I know, if there's a big fan cult

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<v Speaker 1>following up Hot Cheetos, obviously you make good food. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>why not combined the two and see what happens? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like one of those things. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are uh entertainment. It's one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where like something that you're already using and if the

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<v Speaker 1>brand contact you and want to do a clap, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it makes it even better. So Hot Cheetos reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to you and they're like, hey, let's work together

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<v Speaker 1>and make something magical. Yeah, that's I'm so envious. Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many feelings that are coursing through me and

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<v Speaker 1>one of those is Envy. So that's awesome. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've reached out to so many times. I'm like you guys, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be I'll be your I'll do whatever please. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>mop the floors, I'll clean the bathroom. Just let me

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<v Speaker 1>be part of the Hot Cheeto franchise, please, So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell I'll tell the team today. Appreciate. So when is

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<v Speaker 1>the pop up in Los Angeles? When't you guys open

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<v Speaker 1>doors tonight night? Uh? Huh? We opened tonight at five

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<v Speaker 1>thirty for the next three day Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays in Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>on Tonga and Franklin. So I guess it must have

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<v Speaker 1>been a big hit and back in New York then,

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<v Speaker 1>right in order for you guys to to bust out

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<v Speaker 1>here on the West Coast too. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I really didn't know too much about last year. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but this year is so you know whatever whatever New

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<v Speaker 1>York was l A doing topic because it's l A right.

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<v Speaker 1>So you weren't you weren't part of the New York

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<v Speaker 1>launch last year? Then huh No, this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>year they contact me. Very cool. I'm really excited. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so are all three nights booked up. Yeah, they told

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<v Speaker 1>out in like thirty minutes. That's insane. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the three so it's a three course menu and it's

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<v Speaker 1>between price between eleven dollars and thirty two dollars. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, where did you come up with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these dies ideas? Like, for example, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>Cheetos dessert menu. I see a Cheetos sweet ohs hotcake.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's, you know, good of iteration right there, a

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<v Speaker 1>Chester Cheetos truro, a hot chocolate shakes. Wait, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>hot chocolate shake? Does that have any Cheetos in it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It does. It's like it's like a spicy mixed a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of chocolate milkshake. I'll be honest, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I could do that one. I think to me

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<v Speaker 1>exclusively the crunch, and I don't think I could sip

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<v Speaker 1>one through a straw, but again I could be mistaken. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we grind it up into the milkshake, so it just

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<v Speaker 1>makes the milkshake spicy, almost like spicy chocolate. And and

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<v Speaker 1>then we rimmed the glass like a margarita, but with

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<v Speaker 1>crushed cheetos. Oh my god, you're telling me there's a

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<v Speaker 1>crust Cheeto rim on this milkshake. Holy god, I've alarm

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<v Speaker 1>Cheeto stick. That sounds good. What's Roy, what's your favorite?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the meat balls are really really The wings

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<v Speaker 1>are crazy too, because it's like all layers. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>the marinade, it's in the crust, it's dusted on top.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really really good. That's amazing. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect date night for Dean. Uh. This is God, Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you could you could go tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>your experience. It sounds amazing. Well. The good thing is, though,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. If you can't make it out to

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<v Speaker 1>l A, you can also enjoy the dishes at home.

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<v Speaker 1>You can order all the recipes and the ingredients and

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<v Speaker 1>they can be delivered to your door through Amazon Fresh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can get Yeah, you can download all the

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<v Speaker 1>recipes on Cheetos, Flame and hotspot dot com. You can

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<v Speaker 1>try them to yourself. Dean, But then you're telling me

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do the cooking, which I'm not. And unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Roy's probably a little bit better chef than

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<v Speaker 1>you are. Like, listen, I appreciate you, buddy, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think Roy might got you be if they come, if

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<v Speaker 1>they come pre cooked, and I'll have to do this

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<v Speaker 1>like throw them in the microwave. I can do that

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<v Speaker 1>pretty easily, pretty good, Master microL waver Um. Well we

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<v Speaker 1>can speak you guys, if you really if we really

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<v Speaker 1>want to come, right, I really want to come, Well

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. I'll put your name at the door. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the club. Put me on the left. You're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the right guy. Roy. Are you going to be

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<v Speaker 1>there all three nights? Yes, I will, amazed saying all right, cool, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be on the lookout. Like I said, I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>want to show up if I If I show up

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<v Speaker 1>and I get pushed away, at least I can say

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<v Speaker 1>I was there and I tried. But it sounds delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I'm I'm a freak for lame chios.

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<v Speaker 1>There are very few things in this world that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about, and I swear Flamecheas is one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, we're gonna get too in. I'll have this

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<v Speaker 1>team reached out to you. Right. I got a quick

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<v Speaker 1>question for you too. You're so you're affiliated with the

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<v Speaker 1>two dozen fourteen movie chef. Can you talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about that? Because I heard that was loosely based

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<v Speaker 1>on your on your life. Yeah, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was based on my life, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably what I did for a living with influence. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was John script through and through and um he

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<v Speaker 1>first brought me on just to be a culinary consultants,

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<v Speaker 1>but we ended up becoming really really good friends and

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<v Speaker 1>uh we just inseparable and he just brought me in

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to the process. So you're good friends

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<v Speaker 1>with John Favon now, yeah, Yeah, that's badass because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a huge fan and big iron Man and iron Man

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<v Speaker 1>too fan. I'll let him, no, yeah, I'll merge them

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<v Speaker 1>into this call. Don't you tease me like that. You're

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<v Speaker 1>just making all sorts of dreams come true. Today, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like awesome. Well, so yeah, for the listeners out there,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Jared said earlier, Roy CHOI has the pop up

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<v Speaker 1>Flame and Hot Cheeto restaurant in Los Angeles for the

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<v Speaker 1>next three days from tonight and through September. Uh. Full

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<v Speaker 1>three course meals, all encompassing Flame and Hot Cheetos. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm crossing my fingers. I'm I'm praying to the Flame

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<v Speaker 1>and Hot Cheeto God's above that I can show up

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully you get see um and we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But but again, like Jared said earlier too, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't make it to the restaurant, uh, they did partner

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<v Speaker 1>with Amazon Fresh and you can order all of the

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<v Speaker 1>Flame and Hot dishes to your house by ordering the

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<v Speaker 1>recipes on Amazon fresh dot com, so be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>check them out. Um. Well you're the man. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for calling in. I'm thank you for what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing for the world by creating these dishes that

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<v Speaker 1>are delicious. Um, keep doing the the incredible things that

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<v Speaker 1>you do. And like I said, I really hope I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I can squeeze myself into the staught and sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy some of your fresh cooked meals. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you guys. Here the man take care, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Roy? All right, all right, well, I know the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, we have all this food that's staring in

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<v Speaker 1>front of us right now. I'm eating. Let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>break and then we'll eat, and then we'll come back

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<v Speaker 1>and tell everybody how it was here first flaming hot

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<v Speaker 1>chicken wing you guys, let's hear it. It's it's not warm,

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<v Speaker 1>it's cold in my hands. But last week, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even exaggerating a little bit. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing that I've ever had in mind, in my

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<v Speaker 1>mouth and my entire not even the slightest bit of

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<v Speaker 1>exaggeration with that. All right, let's see it and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back in a minue. Oh my god, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to stop. So Dean is actually currently still

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<v Speaker 1>eating the Cheetos. He can't get enough. It's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, the wings in the corner of the

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<v Speaker 1>cob is pretty incredible, so I can't blame him. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the meantime, we do have a special guest on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone right now. We have Samantha Hess, who is

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<v Speaker 1>the owner of Cuddle Up to Me. Samantha, Hello, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for joining us. Thanks for having me. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. So, Samantha, tell us a little bit about yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a professional cuddler. What does that mean? So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm technically now a master cuddler? Is Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>difference between a professional and a master cuddler? Yes? So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>technically certified cuddler is what we call ourselves here. As

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<v Speaker 1>we go through a forty hour certification process and then

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<v Speaker 1>a master cuddler is someone who's completed that forty hour

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<v Speaker 1>program and then completed at least two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>session hours two hundred and fifty session hours of cuddling.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you cuddling with? So our clients are anyone

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen and over, men and women, married, single, everything in between.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has moments where they just need a hug. So

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<v Speaker 1>what got you into being a master cuddler? So I

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<v Speaker 1>was one of these genius people that married my high

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<v Speaker 1>school sweetheart, which surprised surprise, didn't turn out so well. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>for more than a decade of like complete lack of

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<v Speaker 1>touch in my life, I decided that I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>matter too, and so I left my ex husband and

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to be a person. And at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty eight, I decided to go and uh strike

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<v Speaker 1>it out on my own and kind of figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how the world works. And then I was on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>one day and I saw this stree hugs guy article

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<v Speaker 1>who gets pumped into lux hugs two dollars. I had

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<v Speaker 1>just been hit on by like all of my male friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not expecting it, and I realized that paying

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<v Speaker 1>for hugs made it safe for me because I could

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<v Speaker 1>dictate what the rules were. And so I decided there

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be a Starbucks for hugs, and why wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that available? So I decided to make it a thing. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's incredible. So you're so you're married to your

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<v Speaker 1>high school sweetheart? Yes? Um? And so how was that relationships? Wow? Wow? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>And then so you got out of that and needed

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<v Speaker 1>some cuddles. And so now that you're a master cuddler,

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<v Speaker 1>is there like a technique that you personally like to use?

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<v Speaker 1>Like can you tell us a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 1>way you cuddle and like what's better and what's worse? Totally? So,

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<v Speaker 1>I love cushy cuddles. I don't like when people are

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<v Speaker 1>nervous they're afraid to like just get in there. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my personal style. Um, you know, for work, it's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>whatever somebody needs. But yeah, we do have seventy eight

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<v Speaker 1>different cuddle poses that I can take people through. Seventy

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<v Speaker 1>eight different cuddle poses. Holy crap, that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm a big cuddle don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing that I enjoy more than you know, ordering

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<v Speaker 1>in cuddling and watching house Hunters. Um, but that's so interesting, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the different Can you just run through some

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<v Speaker 1>different techniques that you might use on a day to

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<v Speaker 1>day basis of cuddling, for sure. So there's a tandem bike,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a like a version of spooning essentially. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a gummy worm, which is the squishiest cuddle pos of

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<v Speaker 1>all time. There's a Mama Bear, which is a stated

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<v Speaker 1>post where you use someone like a human being bag chair. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Yeah, I never knew that, everybody. I seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew there's so much thought to put into cuddling.

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<v Speaker 1>So people go to your website who want to be cuddled,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can choose their cuddler. I was just looking

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<v Speaker 1>at it right here. They choose their cuddler, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the chosen cuddler will travel to them and you pay

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<v Speaker 1>them for their time. We actually were retail space in Portland,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do also offer outbound sessions as well. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I see, so people come in and do this. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you ever get hired and you show up

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, I have to cuddle this person? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. Yet I'm somebody who just believes in people.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm sort of ridiculous about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that off sometimes people are kind of treated as

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<v Speaker 1>predators in today's society, and I like to give them

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<v Speaker 1>that opportunity to prove that. But not, we shouldn't assume

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<v Speaker 1>that people. No, we shouldn't assume that. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>a dangerous world to live out there, and so how

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<v Speaker 1>do you keep not The first question that comes to

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<v Speaker 1>mind is how do you keep your cuddlers safe? Because

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<v Speaker 1>if these people are like I'm assuming that, is it

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<v Speaker 1>more men or women that get ordered from your company?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming women? So yeah, professional cuddling is definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>women driven industry. There's not much to man for male

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<v Speaker 1>cuddlers at this point. Well, do you find that more

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<v Speaker 1>men are ordering cuddlers or more women? Uh? So, our

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<v Speaker 1>business does have a pretty close to fifty split, but

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<v Speaker 1>most of the industry is mostly men. So it's mostly

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<v Speaker 1>men ordering women, correct, Yes, So how do you keep

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<v Speaker 1>your women safe? There? That's where the training program comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>We have you know, they have to go through so

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<v Speaker 1>many things to learn how to protect themselves while also

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<v Speaker 1>not creating shame or judgment for the clients. It's often

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<v Speaker 1>we're guiding people through this very new concept of posonic touch.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're not taught how to touch each other

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<v Speaker 1>without sexual intention in our adult lives, So we could

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<v Speaker 1>teach people that. That's really great, Yeah, because you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how your mission is it's time to change the

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<v Speaker 1>taboo around touch and engage in meaningful conversations around consent. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious about that because in my my past, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cuddling is definitely a precursor to more intimate uh moments

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<v Speaker 1>between the two people that are cuddling. So what would

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<v Speaker 1>you say about that? I think that there's a great

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<v Speaker 1>way to use cuddling, but it's not the only way.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we kind of missed out on this

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<v Speaker 1>whole part of like what kids get to experience, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's something we still need as adults. It's this like

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<v Speaker 1>basic concept of human connection and cuddling is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the quick, quickest and easiest ways for us to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that we exist in other people us as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of need that to know that we matter

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<v Speaker 1>and that we are esteemed just as we are. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I mean, physical touch is a big love

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<v Speaker 1>language of mine and I personally believe in it very

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<v Speaker 1>much that uh, you know, some people just desire even

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<v Speaker 1>just holding hands or having their arm, you know, put

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<v Speaker 1>around somebody else. They really crave it um and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's very interesting. And so like for you being a

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<v Speaker 1>cuddle master, like what is master cuddler, master cuddler? Excuse me?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what does it do for your Like it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to real articulate when we're gonna try to ask, how

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<v Speaker 1>does it make you feel? You know, like, what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of honestly fulfillment do you get from it? I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure I'm gonna be able to do any other job anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I do look to five hours of

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<v Speaker 1>sessions a day, and so my serotone and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>kind of maxed out a lot. And so we get

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<v Speaker 1>what we call the the oxytocin high or the cuddle high,

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<v Speaker 1>where you just get this like kind of view for

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling. It's like being high without drugs. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's no sorry to go back to my earlier

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<v Speaker 1>point about people being gross, there's no body order problems,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no sweat problems that are just kind of not

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<v Speaker 1>something you want to cuddle in that moment. Sometimes there

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<v Speaker 1>are we do have a hygiene requirement in our waiver

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<v Speaker 1>and some people have to do their best. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody is severely a beast, they may not smell

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<v Speaker 1>super great, even if they've just taken a shower. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>these kinds of things do happen. Are people who smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that you've definitely been cuddling someone when they

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<v Speaker 1>maybe tried to kiss you or maybe their hands started

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<v Speaker 1>to wander a little bit, and you you're you're you

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<v Speaker 1>know how to handle that situation. You've been trained, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the training, we know how to redirect people

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<v Speaker 1>without they're actually knowing what we're doing. Just smack them

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<v Speaker 1>across the face and storm out. No. Yeah, I've seriously

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<v Speaker 1>never had to end the session early. People have been

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<v Speaker 1>very good about it. And how many sessions have you done?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm over a hundred and fifty thousand minutes to paid

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<v Speaker 1>professor cuddling, not including the train team, the troupe done.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is the weirdest experience that you've had? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I would love to share a billion stories

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<v Speaker 1>with you, but we have confidentiality. I know, why did

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<v Speaker 1>I even ask? I know? All right? So how do

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<v Speaker 1>if people want to out there want to cuddle, where

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<v Speaker 1>do they go? So we have two options. If they're

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<v Speaker 1>in Portland, Oregon, we're cuddle up to Me dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>If there are anywhere else, we're at Certified Cuddlers dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And so are you international? Is this uh within the country?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can order anywhere people in Germany and Austria,

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<v Speaker 1>in a few different places throughout the world. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting out there. That's incredible and and and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's incredible. I just think it's so interesting for me

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<v Speaker 1>because I think I've always used cuddling as more of

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, a personal intimate thing, and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to know that people just kind of crave human

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<v Speaker 1>touch so much that they're willing to pay for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to cuddle with them. Um. I mean, good for them,

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<v Speaker 1>that's incredible. Good for you coming up with this, this

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<v Speaker 1>this company. I mean, it's such an interesting idea and

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<v Speaker 1>very obscure and unique and original. Um. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>anything like it, the idea of paying for someone to

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<v Speaker 1>cuddle with you. But you know, you just need cuddles sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Dean is back from eating right now, and he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>a big cuddler. I love cuddling. I will say these exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Um in Japan I think I didn't get to experience

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<v Speaker 1>on myself, but I think they're like cuddling hotels. Those

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<v Speaker 1>they started in Japan about twenty years ago. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great there you can actually pay to you someone's

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<v Speaker 1>is your pillow. You can't do that in the state. Yeah. Yeah, well, Samanthan,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming in. We really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>And definitely everybody whoever wants to cuddle out there, need

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out there, please check out Certified Colors dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little sad I wasn't here for this entire conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we were sad too. This sounds like it just

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<v Speaker 1>sounds read at my you're too busy in did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys talk about big spoon little spoon etiquette? Well, well no,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's fun. You didn't get into that. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>call what did you call it? You didn't call it spooning,

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<v Speaker 1>you called it something else. Tandem b hand. That's actually

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Just the seats are really close to each

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<v Speaker 1>other on the standard bicycle. Apparently the position I use

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<v Speaker 1>a lot is uh the hunter twice seven hours where

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<v Speaker 1>my my wife and I are cuddling and then she

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<v Speaker 1>falls asleep and m to know my arm off to

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<v Speaker 1>go to work. And funny, I have a YouTube video

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<v Speaker 1>called how to Spoon. It will teach you how to

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<v Speaker 1>resolve all those Oh yeah, what's the YouTube channel name?

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<v Speaker 1>Cuddle Up to Me Perfect? We'll check it out. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say so, I think I might be in the

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<v Speaker 1>minority on this, but I love, love, love being little spoon. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I like being a little a little bit my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>thing in the world, like so much. Everybody likes being

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<v Speaker 1>a little yeah, you know what, And it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>it stinks that men are always expected to be the

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<v Speaker 1>big spoon. We need to break down this gender nom

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<v Speaker 1>you like being a big spoon? I do. I like

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<v Speaker 1>all of them though, Can I get your phone number?

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<v Speaker 1>Just kidding too much? Too much? Um, well, that's that's awesome. Yeah, Samantha,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming in. Definitely, guys, check

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<v Speaker 1>out certified Colors dot com if you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>small spoon, little spoon, or just the Tanna bicycle. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always up to interpretation. Samantha, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. By Samantha. What's the edigette on spooning? On

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<v Speaker 1>cuddling towards each other. Well, I don't think there is

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<v Speaker 1>an etiquette because you're kind of fifty fifty in that point,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you Like big spoon, little spoon. Little spoons obviously better,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're facing towards each other, it's very equal.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had an X who every night we want

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep together, we always fell asleep facing each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and at first I was like, this is kind of cute,

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<v Speaker 1>it's romantic, but then like six months in, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like I was like, why do we policy facing each

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<v Speaker 1>other if you're at the issues eventually the breathing breath,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't like fully embrace someone like in a

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<v Speaker 1>hug if you're facing them, because like your legs are

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<v Speaker 1>bending into each other, and how can you sleep? Dude?

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<v Speaker 1>Screw that. Yeah, it's always it's like nice being in

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<v Speaker 1>committed relationship now because like you have your cuddle time,

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<v Speaker 1>but you also know, okay, bedtime to see you, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll day in the morning. So we're all going to

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas this weekend. Dean, You're going, I'm going, Nick's going,

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley's going, well, it's going wells Ben, pretty much the

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<v Speaker 1>entire Bachelor crew guys, We're going to Vegas for the

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Music Festival this weekend and you can come

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with us at Planet Hollywood Resort and Cansino.

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<v Speaker 1>You visit the Scene pool deck located on the sixth floor.

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<v Speaker 1>You can party all afternoon. You can come test your

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<v Speaker 1>surfing skills on the floor Rider. You're gonna ride the

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<v Speaker 1>floor Rider. I love the flow d last year and

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<v Speaker 1>it literally is my favorite thing. You're good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the second favorite thing behind Hot Cheetos is the

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<v Speaker 1>flow Rider. Can you imagine being on the floor Rider

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<v Speaker 1>with one of those Hot Cheetos wings in your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about a dream come true that needs to happen

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. It's at the Las Vegas Trip. Only freestanding.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the only freestanding wave machine on the Las Vegas Trip.

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<v Speaker 1>It's at Planet Hollywood Resort and Casino. You can visit

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<v Speaker 1>the Cafe Hollywood. It's right down the casino. There's breakfast,

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<v Speaker 1>launch dinner. We're serving whatever you desire. Will not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I won't be serving it, but the nice people

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<v Speaker 1>a Planet Hollywood will be. It's twenty four hours a day,

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<v Speaker 1>features all newly renovated rooms. There's massive suites with dazzla

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<v Speaker 1>dazzling Center Strip views. When you stay at Planet Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>the celebrity lifestyle is yours for the living, and fame

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<v Speaker 1>lies at every corner. You can experience the epicenter of

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<v Speaker 1>the A list entertainment in Las Vegas. When you visit

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<v Speaker 1>the Zappos Theater at Planet Hollywood Resort and Casino, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>come hang out. We're all going to be a Planet

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood this weekend. Check out Planet Hollywood Resort dot com

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to stay there with us. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>around Planet Hollywood between the hours probably eleven am and

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<v Speaker 1>seven pm, I would say odds are pretty good. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be on that floor right you go on the floor rider,

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<v Speaker 1>either the blackjack table or the floor rider go jackob Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the two places I'll be. Oh in my

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<v Speaker 1>Hiding Music festival too, which is kind of held for

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna barely dabble into that and we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor rider eating Cheetos wings the entire I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited you're coming this year because you weren't there last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I was this my first I Heart Festival. Nice, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty excited. Yeah, you didn't do um um jingle ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I did jingle ball. But this is my first I

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<v Speaker 1>Heeart festival in Vegas. Oh nice, okay, but Sin timber Lake,

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie Underwood, Shown Mendez, Kago, Mariah Carry, Imagined Dragon, Sam Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Clarkson, Logic, Luke, Bryan Panic at the Disco, Jack White,

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard Skinner, Fleetwood, Mac, Jason Aldeen and Ra What a

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<v Speaker 1>lineup Dean Angular Jared Haven. We've been right in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super talented. Um okay, So next up? We had

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<v Speaker 1>her on last week? Was it last week? Two weeks ago? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about brain spotting a little bit back in studio, Hally,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Haley. It's very nice meeting you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first time we've met, right, yes, yes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming in for the second stree week.

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<v Speaker 1>So Haley and I just met um in a back

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<v Speaker 1>like a little office area. That sounded bad one on

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<v Speaker 1>one for a little bit. And we're a therapy session.

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<v Speaker 1>We're a therapy session. Jared. It only sounds bad because

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<v Speaker 1>you just said it sounds no. I have We've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about cuddling for a half an hour. Exactly where

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<v Speaker 1>do you think of My head is at? My head

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<v Speaker 1>still on flow Rider and two d but never a

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<v Speaker 1>bad place. Um. So we had her on last week

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<v Speaker 1>and we discussed brain spotting and some I guess just

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<v Speaker 1>therapeutic of like processes that we can go through as individuals.

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<v Speaker 1>But she is so kind that you decided to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and be here in person and do some brain spotting, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and get to the root of with the issues, the

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<v Speaker 1>many issues that I have, and I just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see what unfolds, I guess, right, So, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say hi to the listeners again and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>reintroduce yourself real quick? Yeah. So, Haley Hewett, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>marriage and family therapist up in the Bay Area and

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<v Speaker 1>I come down here once a month to see clients.

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<v Speaker 1>Specializations are in trauma and family systems and working through

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<v Speaker 1>the body, so working with the body to heal. So

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do is, um, Hailey is going to

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<v Speaker 1>do some of her brain spotting techniques with me. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go over some of my physical reactions more

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<v Speaker 1>so than my emotional sensations, or start my physical sensations

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<v Speaker 1>rather than my emotional reactions. Can you guys talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how you just what you just talked about, is that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of off limits? Yes? So just to clarify, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here just to do a demonstration with Dean, who is

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<v Speaker 1>ready and willing, and it's really wonderful that you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>this and others can kind of witness. It's a newer

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<v Speaker 1>modality of treat meant so it stemmed after E. M.

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<v Speaker 1>D R, which is very UM successful in treating trauma

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<v Speaker 1>and just anything you know, depression, anxiety and so on. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we clarified something called a statement of focus,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'll have you read, and then UM a resource statement,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll use those two statements to do the brain

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<v Speaker 1>spotting in UM the studio, and I'll kind of be

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<v Speaker 1>talking out loud about what we'll be doing so listeners

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<v Speaker 1>can understand. And then Dean, can I ask you what

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<v Speaker 1>you want her to help with enough? Okay, yes, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know what this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>really we're gonna It's it's a little awkward for me

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<v Speaker 1>because I do feel like I'm almost hosting the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>but also overstepping my boundaries because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>cross any limits that you guys want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk about. I mean, as far as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm considered, there are no limits that can be crossed. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we did establish a statement of focus in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the one on one session we just had, which

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<v Speaker 1>we'll basically tell you and the listeners what I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I need to identify and continue to work on. Okay, great, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And just in brief, brain spotting school is to bypass

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<v Speaker 1>the conscious neocortical thinking, so you access the deeper subcortical, emotional,

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<v Speaker 1>and body based parts of the brain. What is subcortical subcortical,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's deeper, it's within the brain, stem our, nervous systems,

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<v Speaker 1>or bodies beyond the frontal cortex. And before before we

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<v Speaker 1>go further this, I just I want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>I love this type of therapy, like neuroscience and the

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<v Speaker 1>brain is also interesting to me. Um. I read a

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<v Speaker 1>few books about this. Granted every other word I don't understand,

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<v Speaker 1>so most of it goes directly over my head, but

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<v Speaker 1>I find it so fascinating. And whenever she Hailey talks

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<v Speaker 1>about this type of stuff, you can tell that she

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<v Speaker 1>it's comes from place of incredible depth of knowledge, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is fantastic. A lot of times you's like

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<v Speaker 1>you see the and Mark nose like the pseudosciences that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of come from places where I don't necessarily agree with.

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<v Speaker 1>So this type of stuff, in my opinion, is much

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<v Speaker 1>more legitimate and I can I I just appreciate it more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And they're doing research on it. You know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>formed in two thousand and three, and so like M

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<v Speaker 1>d R, it's different. CULTU qualitatively measure this sort of work.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, CBT is a common one that's easy to

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<v Speaker 1>measure because there's homework and you scale and measure, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're working on measuring how it actually has an efficacy.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is CBT Cognitive behavioral therapy. Change your thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>change your life. That's in essence, okay, thinking, change your behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, what we'll be doing is we'll be using

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<v Speaker 1>a little teacher pointer here. It looks like one of

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 1>those extendable teacher pointers, and we'll be moving through different

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<v Speaker 1>quadrants on left and the right sides. Um, focusing eventually

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<v Speaker 1>on one spot. And he has headphones in with bilateral music.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, David grand has free bilateral music on Spotify.

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<v Speaker 1>Just search brain spotting or David Grant and you can

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<v Speaker 1>check it out, or you know YouTube bilateral or binaural music,

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<v Speaker 1>and it alternates between the left and the right hemispheres

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<v Speaker 1>of the brain, so it's engaging the left and the right,

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<v Speaker 1>left and the right. Is it like a particular type

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<v Speaker 1>of music. It's just soothing, calming, ambient music, not words,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, ocean sounds with a little guitar totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And for our listeners out there, Dean is currently putting

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<v Speaker 1>those headphones on as we speak. And then Haley has

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<v Speaker 1>a pointer that looks exactly like your fourth grade teacher

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<v Speaker 1>in science would have. And as she points to the chalkboard, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it extends. It's like three ft in length. Just

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<v Speaker 1>don't whack Dean in the head with it. That's all.

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<v Speaker 1>So we will be making the statement of focus, which

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<v Speaker 1>we already did so typically these sessions take longer, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're condensing it for the sake of the demonstration. So

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<v Speaker 1>we will state his um you know, summary of his work,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he'll start um scaling his experience with the

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<v Speaker 1>subjective unit of distress scale, which some of you have

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<v Speaker 1>a handed out. It scales from zero to one hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred being panic attack intolerable so much adrenaline and

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<v Speaker 1>zero being baseline calm. And so he'll be scaling his

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<v Speaker 1>experience from zero to one hundred as it vacillates, and

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<v Speaker 1>using some physical sensations, describing the physical sensations happening vis

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<v Speaker 1>early in his body as we move through the statement

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<v Speaker 1>of focus, and so you know, we'll move from there

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<v Speaker 1>into then the resource statement that he made, and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be scaling with a resource scale from zero to one

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<v Speaker 1>being so calm and happy and comforted and soothed, zero

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<v Speaker 1>being distressed. And so he'll scale that um and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do a little process at the end and see

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<v Speaker 1>what came up for you nervous? How do you know

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you're nervous? I can just feel it on my chest.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the sensation of a vacuous feeling? Maybe like an emptiness? Good.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's already starting to work on describing experience. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's just take a moment and turn inward. You can

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<v Speaker 1>close the eyes or take a soft vocal gaze on

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<v Speaker 1>an unmoving point, and just begin to notice the breath

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<v Speaker 1>as it moves in and out of the nostrils. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>take a seat right behind the nose and the upper lip,

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<v Speaker 1>just witnessing the breath move in and out and the

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts are going to be moving and playing, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to keep returning your attention to your breath,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to get his music started here. What

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Dean doesn't know is that I actually put a full

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<v Speaker 1>list of Rob Thomas in Matchbox twenty instead of this

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<v Speaker 1>soothing MUSICMX actually put Rob Zombie on the good So

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<v Speaker 1>before we move in, Um, what are you noticing right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Zero to one hundred one being you know, very stressed.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you scale I'm probably a twenty three, So

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three on his distress scale there, meaning I have

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<v Speaker 1>minimal anxiety slash distress. Thank you great, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>will have you read your statement of focus. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is a statement of focus we put together behind doors,

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<v Speaker 1>closed doors. This is gonna feels it feels weird to say. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, it's stay in touch with what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>on a visceral level in your body. I'm struggling fine

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<v Speaker 1>purpose in my life. I'm guilty of not taking the

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<v Speaker 1>proper steps to deal with what happened to me thus far.

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<v Speaker 1>That has been difficult. I have guilt over not realizing

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<v Speaker 1>the impact of some of my childhood experience on myself

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<v Speaker 1>as an adult, I can't give myself in relationships because

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be hurt if I don't let others help me

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<v Speaker 1>and just rely on myself, then there won't be the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of being let down by someone else. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>externalized this internal cognitive process that I'm curious just in

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<v Speaker 1>reading that, what are you noticing? I would say I

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<v Speaker 1>probably went up to like a forty in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>this the stress thermometer, M. How do you know? I

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<v Speaker 1>can just feel the anxiety in my chest go up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, a little bit more, anxious, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more. I don't know, stressed out? I guess so. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>given he's out of forty, that's what worst where we

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<v Speaker 1>will start. So he'll keep his gaze on the point

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<v Speaker 1>and it's an unmoving point and it's to the right

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<v Speaker 1>about two ft in front of him. And so where

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<v Speaker 1>would you now scale zero that statement of focus and

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<v Speaker 1>that sensation of tightness and anxiety in your chest? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going down a bit since it's passed, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably down to a thirty. Okay, we'll shift now over

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<v Speaker 1>to his left. Now zero to how would you scale

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the sensation in your chest as well? As the statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, s down to twenty. Uh what was the

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<v Speaker 1>first one? Right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. So I am struggling

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<v Speaker 1>to find a purpose in my life. I'm guilty of

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>not taking proper steps to deal with what happened to me.

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you want me to read the whole? S No,

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I can read it for you. And I can't give

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>myself a relationship because I will be hurt if I

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>don't let others help me and just rely on myself,

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>then there won't be the possibility of being let down

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>by others. So we have a thirty, we have a twenty,

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and then how about right here in the middle, we

0:33:54.240 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>have the point? Umty okay, yeah, So we're going to

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>stay on the point where it's the highest. I'm going

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>to stay over here to your right. You want to

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:10.359
<v Speaker 1>you want to give me the distress, that's right, that's right.

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>So we're safely accessing the distress in a containment, right

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>in a container, so you have the ability to allow

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>for it to come up and sit with it, and

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>then eventually it will start to change. So I want

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you to focus your attention on the point, okay, and

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>keep your gaze on the point. And I want you

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>to just continue shifting. You know, your attention through the

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>details of the painful experiences that have contributed to your

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>statement of focus. Something you've been stuck around or felt

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>upset about. So the brain as he's looking is just processing.

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 1>It's just rapidly moving and processing different thoughts and feelings.

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the intensity will go up and then so where

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>did you say? It's zero, one hundreds? Still right, thirty

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>m So just stay with that. Can you describe some

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>physical sensations you're having in your body? I think physically

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm much more relaxed. It feels weird or relaxed. I'm sorry,

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 1>it feels weird looking to my right and thinking about

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>these things. I don't know why. It just this doesn't

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 1>feel natural. Um, it's intense. Just just stay on one point,

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>similar to like the eye contact thing. I struggle with

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>eye contact. So it's like, I mean, this is easier

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>because obviously one's looking directly back at me, but uncomfortable,

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and just stay with that, stay with the discomfort, just

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>observing whatever is coming up. So thoughts, feelings, all without judgment. Notice,

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>if any memories or thoughts come up, do you want

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 1>me to talk about them? Yeah? If it feels. Okay, Well,

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty much everything that we've discussed in the SEF.

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about, like what am I gonna be doing

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 1>in two years? I kind of don't necessarily to think

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 1>about the beast so much, so I'm thinking about the

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>stressors that are still laying out there somewhere. You know

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>what happens when you think about the past. I dismiss it,

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 1>And in terms of how I feel, I think I've

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>gotten used to blazing over it to the point where

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily that it affect me very much emotionally anymore.

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>So something that I'm noticing that I'll point out for listeners. Um,

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and you can tell me what your thoughts are, is

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 1>your right arm is twitching? Are you aware of that?

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I did not know that. So these sorts of body

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 1>ticks or movements are the body discharging energy, just moving

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and releasing energy? So, um, for the sake of time,

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>we're going to shift gears. Are you zero one? Have

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you shifted at all? Still right around? Well, I guess

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm left at forty. Now it's increased. Okay, let's just

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>allow for that, you know, forty to be present. Is

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>it still a tightness? Or anxiousness in your chest. Well,

0:36:56.280 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>now I'm focusing on my m all right, So just

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>allow it, no attempts to change, just noticing what's happening. So,

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>because it's gone up for him, now we're going to

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>shift into a resource spot. So what we'll do is

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>have him read his resource statement and we'll shift the

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>gaze point where the pointer is to a different spot,

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>typically on the opposite quadrant. And so I'll have you

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>read your resource statement. My resource statement says, I have

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 1>time to define my purpose. I'm on my path and

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>will continue to discover the things that are meaningful to me.

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm working to understand and heal myself in order to

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 1>open up in relationships. I am integrating my past into

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.280
<v Speaker 1>my presence and trusting myself and this journey. I'm taking

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.919
<v Speaker 1>the proper steps to heal myself and grow my experiences

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 1>as an adult. I now realized the impact of the

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>losses I experienced and am giving myself space to integrate

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>those losses into my life with vulnerability and strength. What

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 1>are you noticing in your body as you made that statement?

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Feel good? I feel strong and powerful. Um now I

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:56.399
<v Speaker 1>do feel better. I noticed you rolled your shoulders back

0:37:56.440 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>on opening your chest. Yea, it's I do agree with

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:04.479
<v Speaker 1>these whole like affirmative statements about yourself, and that's something

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that I've known I need to work on a little

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 1>bit more so saying things like that, it definitely makes

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 1>you feel a little bit more at ease. Yes, that's

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>the hypnotism piece, right. The hypnotist was saying, you manifest

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>what you state, right, I want this rather than I

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want m I think a lot of people do that, right, Like.

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>It's the whole idea of about like talking about your

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>insecurities and when you start doing that, you project them

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>on others and they start believing it. So the same

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>thing conversely goes with you. You start projecting confidence about yourself,

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>people will start believing it, and so will you. So

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>let's just stay on the spot just for a moment,

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 1>here your resource spot. I have time to define my purpose.

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm on my path and continue to discover the things

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that are meaningful to me and working to understand and

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>here myself in order to open up in a relationship.

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>So from zero one hundred, looking at that point now

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>being the most resourced, most comforted, how does that feel?

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>It's not it shifts, so high is good. High is

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>good mm hmm. And name a resource spot in your body,

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>So a place in your body that feels comforted, soothed, resourced.

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess my back feels good. This chair is very comfortable,

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and so it's like, I don't know, very comfortable chairs.

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And I've noticed a couple of times again with the

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 1>rolling of the shoulders back. So this sort of opening

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 1>sense of empowerment maybe in your heart, in your chest,

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>sense of h yeah, comfort m hm okay, so yeah.

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>So in essence, I think we, you know, can just

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of process a little bit here, um for the

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.479
<v Speaker 1>sake of time. So in essence, what we were doing

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>with him was expanding his window of tolerance. So your

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>ability to sit with distress and not you know, be

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>so fearful of it. In the world, I think what

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 1>happens is we tend to hang out in the place

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>of three to seven um, and some people can go eight,

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 1>nine to ten and it can feel overwhelming, or some

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>can just baseline go flat, um, you know, top down management,

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>which is like we go into rational thinking, we minimize

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>our experience and our feelings um. And so this sort

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.760
<v Speaker 1>of therapy gives you um an opportunity, with the safety

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and support of someone else, to be able to go

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 1>into difficult experience and stay with it within the body,

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>rather than just sit in a room and talk about

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:25.320
<v Speaker 1>your experience and not necessarily make that mind body connection

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that's necessary to really unroote what we store in our bodies.

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>So what was that experience like for you? It was good?

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I have a question, don't do you just think there's

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>any type of utility and people being too hard on

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>themselves like they could benefit. Yes, So our self critic

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 1>is developed early in our lives as a way to

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:50.359
<v Speaker 1>help us stay safe, right, don't cross that street, don't

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 1>touch the hot hands. So initially, earlier in our lives,

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a way to help keep us safe. But as

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 1>we enter into our twenties and older, I think it's

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>really hard work, and it's really important work to start

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to not listen to the self critic Um. It's important

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to do our best, of course, you know, you know,

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>show up for our lives and for our relationships, but

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to do it from a place of criticism is constrictive.

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>So how does one do that? How does one get

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>out of that mode of thinking? So you could think

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>of it like a bus, right, we have you know,

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>internal family systems. It's all the different parts of ourselves,

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>our internal child, our internal critic, our internal perfectionists, all

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>these different parts. So if you're not allowing for the

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>critic to drive the bus and thinking about yourself as

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>parts of like, Okay, that's just a part of myself.

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>That's a part of myself that wants me to do well.

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 1>So you kind of thank the critic, like, thank you

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>critic for helping me do my best and show up.

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>And right now it's not helpful for me, so adapting

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that sort of compassionate approach to it of like and

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 1>right now I don't need that. So one of the

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>things that I think I'm most critical of myself or

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 1>about myself is as we discussed as well before, is

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't allow myself to be emotional like I'm I'm

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>aware of all of the things that I know I

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>need to work on, but I think that I struggled

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to find that compassion within myself, and from what I've experienced,

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 1>people can skew one of two ways, where it's you

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>can skew logical or you can skew emotional. And I

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>think that on that scale, I skew to a fault

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 1>too far to the logical side, which makes it hard

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>for me to connect with the people that skew more

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 1>on the emotional side of things. And I think when

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>that comes to relationships, that's been a kind of a

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 1>fall short of mine as well. So how do I

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>work on that where I can kind of bring that

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>needle more towards the middle of logic and emotion. Mm hmm. See,

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>so that's the top down management, right, going into rational thinking, UM,

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 1>minimizing awareness of feelings and body sensations um. And I'll

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.720
<v Speaker 1>say that is a useful strategy and an emergency or crisis.

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>And I know we briefly talked a little bit about

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>some of the things he's you know, witnessed in his

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>lifetime around people dying. You know, when you pretend you

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>know can I may say, you know, you witnessed a

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>friend get hit, and I mean it was like a

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>really gory accident, and anyone would suffer for post traumatic

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>stress for that, um and then losing your mother and

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>then you know, also another friend to an overdose. So

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>those three events, you know, in the face of crisis,

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.720
<v Speaker 1>you were able to just like okay, I'm gonna be logical,

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna manage, I'm gonna keep it together. But then

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.720
<v Speaker 1>that becomes a habitual way of being in the world.

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>So in relationship, it becomes kind of how you relate

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>in the face of intense emotion. Um. And so what

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I would encourage is see what happens if you stay.

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.760
<v Speaker 1>So see what happens if you stay and lean in

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 1>as I said last week, to the discomfort of course,

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>have good boundaries. So you know, when it's a partner

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of emotion there and you don't

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>know how to help, it's okay to say, you know what,

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I let's take a break. I need a little time

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>out here to resource myself. Go get someone or go

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 1>get some tea, maybe go for a walk so you

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>feel resourced enough. Um. But you know, we talked about

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I heard on this podcast ghosting. Ghosting has been a

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>theme lately, and the whole lessons of ghosting is because

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:02.359
<v Speaker 1>people are too uncomfortable to have that conversation or they're like, oh,

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just better if I don't say anything because it

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.840
<v Speaker 1>will be too hard or uncomfortable. So it's all about

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 1>distressed tolerance, expand your window of tolerance, be with discomfort,

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>keep doing your therapy, and your therapeutic you know container

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>where you have the safety of one other person and

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the privacy to be able to deepen and go into

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the emotions. And it's all about embodied presence practices. So

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>we talked about yoga, UM, these practices where dance, we're

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 1>in our bodies. We have the presence in our bodies

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 1>um and it, you know, allows for us to develop

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>an attuned awareness of our somatic self beyond the thinking,

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 1>because we are more than our thoughts. If we were

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>just our thoughts and I were to say I'm a

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:48.879
<v Speaker 1>bad person, does that mean I'm a bad person, because

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily. It was last week as well. You said

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>we're more than just our thoughts, and I kind of

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>disagreed with you because I think that's really all we

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 1>are is our thoughts. Oh, I see, I disagree with you. Well,

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and I was just all my thoughts. I God be

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>in a bad place, right, But what are you If

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not your own thoughts? You are you are your actions.

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts and your actions are two very different things. Okay,

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:10.879
<v Speaker 1>so you can think one thing. Have you ever thought

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to kill somebody. I don't think so you've

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 1>never had not like legitimately, but you've never really thought

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>like somebody pissed you off to the effect where you're like, god,

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I oh god, I even not punched them in the face.

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>You've never had that feeling that on your head. We're like,

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that person pissed me off so much, I want to

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>punch them in the face. But you didn't punch him

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>in the face because you rationalize your thought and able

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 1>we're able to calm yourself but then not act on

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts. Okay, but you're not the thought of punching

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>him in the face. You're the thought of reasoning with

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 1>yourself to then get over the idea of punching him

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>in the face. So then you become the person that

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't punch him in the face exactly, which is the

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>person you are. But the thought of actually doing I

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know. You've never like because I disagree with you

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>in that sense. What about what about your heart? What

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 1>about your spirit? What about your you know, um gut like,

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>what about who you are? Sprain? I don't know. I

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 1>just think that at all, if it starts here, I

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.240
<v Speaker 1>agree with you of our serotonin is released in our guts,

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the happy chemical one transmitters, so they're discovering more that

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 1>actually our gut is a brain and our heart is

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 1>sentient and intelligent too, So we might have three brains.

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Where's the third heart gut in the actual brain? Okay, um, well, heyy,

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming in. I know this

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 1>must be I think it's probably more challenging for you

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 1>because it's more expedited than like a regular full session. Yeah,

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>typically your brain spotting session should be fifty minutes to

0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half, and so you know, we

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>had to really condense it. And of course this was

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>a demonstration. It wasn't a therapy session because this, you know, therapeutically,

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it's appropriate to do it with um, the support of

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>just a counselor one on one so that you feel

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.839
<v Speaker 1>safe to really go there. But I felt much more

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 1>comfortable back when it was just us too, that on

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 1>all these jamos were in studio with us. So maybe

0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>next time you're in that we can do a one

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:02.840
<v Speaker 1>on one full session. And yeah, you're just hackling the

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 1>entire time, peanuts. His eyes were closed, smacking him with

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a little point. Um, So what's next for you go

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 1>back to San Francisco. Back to San Francisco this evening,

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>my short, little flighty easy trip. Cool. Well, if we

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.800
<v Speaker 1>don't have you in studio, we'll have you on the phone,

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and next time you're in Los Angeles, give us a call.

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll just individual sessions with you. We'll do some couples

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:32.720
<v Speaker 1>therapy there you go, Okay, do you actually ever consider

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I know it doesn't seem like you probably need it,

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 1>but would you ever consider it? Um, of course we

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.879
<v Speaker 1>would consider it, but it's really just not necessary right now.

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't want to say it's not necessary

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 1>in case, you know whatever, but it's just not something

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.479
<v Speaker 1>that we would do right now. We talk a lot

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:52.359
<v Speaker 1>about everything, so pat she is a very emotional person.

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 1>It's very emotional, and then I'm very receptive, and then

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>she's and then she also conversely is able to get

0:47:58.000 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>things out of me that I have very difficult time

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Yeah, that dynamics kind of like what you

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 1>were talking about. So I love these said receptive. So

0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 1>being receptive and yet not trying to fix, not trying

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to change her, not trying to fix her, but just

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>being attuned and receptive to her. Oh, I'm never going

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 1>to fix Ashley, and she will never fix you. She

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to be fixed. She's perfect. That's right. You.

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, maybe not. I got a lot

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 1>of work to do, maybe progress. But that was the

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>point that I was trying to make because I think

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I askew too hard to the logical side of things

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:31.919
<v Speaker 1>that this allows me to I guess even like move

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit towards emotion, get out of your head

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and deeper than emotion actually, because our

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.800
<v Speaker 1>feelings are emotions are are cognitive to thoughts and feelings,

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 1>so it's actually more visceral body based you're getting in

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:43.399
<v Speaker 1>your sensation. I gotta talk to my gut a little

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 1>bit more, I think, okay, I'll work on that through

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 1>the active meditation. All right, well, thank you again for

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 1>coming in. It's always a pleasure. I'll be honest. I

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say it actually, so i'll say it,

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:00.399
<v Speaker 1>and I'm probably gonna get some backlash for this. From

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:03.240
<v Speaker 1>our phone call yesterday, I thought that you were going

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 1>to be like, you're very articulate and intelligence and you

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>have a very soothing voice. I was like, this old lady,

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 1>so wise, beyond her years, and now will come to

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:18.839
<v Speaker 1>find out what you're in your your twenties, and so

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you're even wiser beyond the years. And I thought you

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 1>already wise beyond Wow crazy. That's kind, thank you. I'm

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:29.279
<v Speaker 1>an old soul. Um. Anyways, you have a website, yes, yes,

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 1>it's Hitt m FT dot com h g W I

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>T t R m FT. And you don't have an

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Instagram Nope. I I don't believe in social media. It

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>creates the dopamine surge in the brain that contributes to addiction.

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I should delete my Instagram. I don't believe in

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 1>social media either. And yet here we are. Well you

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 1>use it to make money? Wow? More than that? Well yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's you know, if it's your you know, livelihood.

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>If you use it for work, that's one thing. But

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I choose not to s markt through. Well, you can't

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 1>find her on Instagram, Twitter or Facebook, but you can

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 1>definitely find her on the internet, Haley M Sorry Hewett

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 1>m FT dot com. Uh. And it's h E W

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I T T okay, just like Packard Hewett Hewett Packard. No,

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that's Hewlett, like Hewlett Packard, not like that guy. Anyways,

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 1>j check it out, and Haley, we'll circle back with

0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 1>you at a later date and we'll see everyone's doing

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.359
<v Speaker 1>the Thank you so much for coming in. Thank you Haley.

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Great having Haley back in here. It is good to

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:37.920
<v Speaker 1>meuter face to face. That was nice. We got emails

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 1>so well, before we get to emails, I know it's

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>coming up. Okay, good, We got on scrubbing in. We

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 1>got Tanya's point of view on the date with Dean,

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and now we need to get Dean's point of view

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>on the date with date. All right, Can I get

0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a little preface because I wasn't here, so there was

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 1>like a conversation between you and telling you that you

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:56.839
<v Speaker 1>guys were going on a date. Dean's mouth is full

0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of sugar bear hair. So I will say this because

0:50:59.880 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I need the sound of people eating on microphone. It's

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:06.359
<v Speaker 1>a pet peeve. He asked her out. He legitimately asked

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:08.839
<v Speaker 1>her out. He asked her out without any kind of

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, preconceptions, any kind of tongue in cheek. There

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 1>was nothing like that. He legitimately asked her out, and

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>she was very questioning of it, and what are your motivations?

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:19.640
<v Speaker 1>And now you just playing with me because we've been

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>friends for a long time. But he was like, no,

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I really want to take you out on a date.

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 1>And she eventually relented and said yes. I broke her

0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 1>down because her her guard is up. So he picked

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 1>her up at six thirty last Wednesday. Uh, they went

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:41.520
<v Speaker 1>to Elefante. They were denied I make a reservation for

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the date. So I tried to make a reservation. They

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 1>were all booked up. They said, if you guys want

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to try and come to the bar, we might have

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>seating for you. So we showed up at Elfhante obviously

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>sure enough, they didn't have any seating. Um. So No.

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 1>One Garden is like a two block walk away, and

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 1>it's actually much nicer. It's like a rooftop. You can

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:57.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of overlook and see the street. We think that

0:51:57.360 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>they weren't dressed nicely enough for Ellafante. We're both in

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:03.320
<v Speaker 1>jeans and a T shirt. They're going to a concert, Yeah, okay,

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 1>we're concert Betty who? So she just a pure concert

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday night, sin cinema. Betty who was actually really funny.

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Who the funny thing is about this? I was thinking

0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:12.720
<v Speaker 1>this on the way here is It's such a funny

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 1>thing to go on a date, especially with Tanya, because

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 1>not only does she talk about it on Scrubbing In

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:19.320
<v Speaker 1>with you guys, he talks about in Ronsea Christ in

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the Morning, which is just so easy for me to

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>find access to and listen to. And I'm like, I'm

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>listening to her talk about a date that she went

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 1>on with me. Just it's just kind of funny and weird,

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:30.239
<v Speaker 1>very it's a really good plug for the podcast. I

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>can't complain it's um, but I mean, the date went well.

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:36.279
<v Speaker 1>What did she did she say anything on scrubbing in

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 1>or on the Secret Show that that really piqued her

0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 1>interest that you thought, Oh that's interesting. I didn't know

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:43.320
<v Speaker 1>she felt that way. Um, I think on scrubbing and

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.120
<v Speaker 1>she said something along the lines up, I was thinking

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:49.919
<v Speaker 1>about him over the weekend, which it's weird. It's not weird.

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 1>It was very sweet. It's very sweet, she said, So

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>she was thinking about you over the weekend after the day, Yes,

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 1>did you guys? All right, hold on, let's hear the

0:52:57.600 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>about the day. I want to hear your version of

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the date. I picked her up at six thirty on

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the dot. Okay, she said so right on time. Um,

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 1>we drove to Elfhante valid my car. Obviously we can

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:12.359
<v Speaker 1>get an elephante. So we walked down to Sonoma, had

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:15.839
<v Speaker 1>a glass of wine and some hummus and uh a

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 1>salad beat salad. You know I love salad. Uh. And

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 1>then we walked down to the pier and watch Betty

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 1>who finished her set. She had like three songs left.

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:29.919
<v Speaker 1>And I don't really know anybody whose songs, but Tanya

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>is a big fan, so it was fun to see

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>her in her element. We kind of danced around for

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. You did not hold hands. We there

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 1>was a point where we were like she like reached

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:42.000
<v Speaker 1>for my hand and I was like, well, to me,

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 1>hand holding is more intimate than kissing someone. It's like

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you hold hands with a girlfriend or a boyfriend. It

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 1>really is an announcement to the world, like, hey, look,

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 1>we're in a relationship, and for a first day, it

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.480
<v Speaker 1>just seems to me like I just I wasn't comfortable

0:53:57.520 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 1>with it. I get that. Um. And then so we

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:02.359
<v Speaker 1>walked around and actually Sissany who was on the Morning

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 1>show with the Seacrest. She and her husband have a

0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:06.799
<v Speaker 1>plaque on the pier at the end and so we

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:08.839
<v Speaker 1>like went down and found that, which is really cool.

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:10.360
<v Speaker 1>It took us like maybe twenty minutes to find that,

0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 1>so it was fun. And then we just walked back

0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:14.279
<v Speaker 1>and then I just drove her home. Do you guys kiss?

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I got to her to her house, we walked up

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to her door and we just hugged and I left.

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 1>So no kiss? Did you consider kissing her? I thought

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.400
<v Speaker 1>about it, but it's just it's a very weird dynamic.

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 1>It's a very weird dynamic. Even describing it, it's weird. Yeah,

0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 1>And I love Tanya. She's an incredible We all know

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 1>she's an incredible human. I like, there are some things

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:37.239
<v Speaker 1>that go through my mind, like what are the repercussions

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of kissing her? Like let's say the kisses great, Let's

0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 1>say the Chris is horrible? Right then, like what happens

0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:43.719
<v Speaker 1>when we see each other once a week for the

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:46.440
<v Speaker 1>rest of eternity? Or it's like like, I don't know,

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>it's just a lot to consider changes things. Is that

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the concern? It es thing? Okay? Yeah? And I also

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's not weird because you guys are weird, but

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:56.319
<v Speaker 1>it's weird because there's so much pressure on this day.

0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Everybody knew about it. Everybody knew that you guys are

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:00.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna come on the podcast and talk about on air.

0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's like that puts you're already an awkward position.

0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:08.279
<v Speaker 1>It's like like you're holding hands, you're kissing. It's like,

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and all right, let me ask you though, when you

0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 1>guys were like grabbing your glass of wine and having

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 1>your beats out, was it more of like friendship vibes

0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 1>or was it more like, oh wow, this could potentially

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:19.800
<v Speaker 1>be more than friendship vibes? Um See, even that's awkward

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:23.160
<v Speaker 1>to ask because Tanya's are like, that's it's a man,

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's tough. There's a lot that time

0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know about each other that it was

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:28.440
<v Speaker 1>nice to be able to sit down and discuss, Like,

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 1>she found you fascinating. She really did well. I find

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:33.200
<v Speaker 1>her fascinating. To The weird thing is I felt like

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>she's very open. She wears herself and her personality on

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:39.960
<v Speaker 1>her sleeve, and so it's like what you see of

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:42.719
<v Speaker 1>her on the podcast and on Seacrest is exactly who

0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 1>she is. And so there were no like blind sided

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 1>blind sidings, like I wasn't caught off guard by anything

0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:50.320
<v Speaker 1>that she said. Um, I think that she maybe was

0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:52.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more sounded with the things that I've

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:54.840
<v Speaker 1>told her, just like about my life, which is fine,

0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and and like like there was never a lull in

0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the conversation. There was never like a moment of silence

0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 1>or anythink that, uh, it went really really well. It's

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:05.320
<v Speaker 1>just as I think, it's something that should be taken

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 1>slowly before jumping in and playing tonsil hockey with each other.

0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:14.799
<v Speaker 1>It's just something that needs to be um in my

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 1>opinion more, what's the word I'm looking for? Like cautious.

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Cautious is very important. It is a good word, just

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 1>like methodical, maybe in a sense before you take any

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.440
<v Speaker 1>actions that makes sense. It's a little delicate. You want

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to be careful. I get that now. Who said this

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:35.239
<v Speaker 1>date up? So you went to TIY was like, I

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:37.279
<v Speaker 1>want to take you out on a date. We were

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 1>discussing I think on my on this podcast or on

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.080
<v Speaker 1>her podcast a couple of weeks ago. One of the

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:46.799
<v Speaker 1>one of the scrubbing in when he's talking about help

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 1>by second and I don't know, I was just like,

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:51.919
<v Speaker 1>let's go on a day. It'll be fun. If nothing

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:53.760
<v Speaker 1>else it'll just be two friends hanging out and obviously,

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 1>obviously sure enough it went well. I would assume that

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:58.319
<v Speaker 1>there will be a second day. I understand the balls

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:00.359
<v Speaker 1>in my court. I listened to scubbing in did asked

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:03.399
<v Speaker 1>me to go to church with her on Sunday. Huh, Well,

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 1>so I was celebrating my friend's birthday at a Bronco

0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:07.480
<v Speaker 1>bar because the Broncos were playing. I'm a big, big,

0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 1>big Broncos fan. Um. I will say I haven't had

0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the best of luck with church dates as well. So

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:17.000
<v Speaker 1>post breakup with Leslie, I went to a church maybe

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 1>a handful of times. Uh. Two of those times I

0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 1>would say, we're on a date, and it's fine. It's

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 1>just that's something that I also can only start doing

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 1>once I'm comfortable enough in the relationship. Of course, such

0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>people take dates to church. I've never well, there was

0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the post breakup. I was like super stress,

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:40.120
<v Speaker 1>very anxious. I was like, I need to do something

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to help me, like re establish myself as a human.

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:45.160
<v Speaker 1>So I went a few times by myself. Uh, and

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:47.840
<v Speaker 1>then I went with like a friend and then this

0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:50.040
<v Speaker 1>girl that I was interested in dating, like knew that

0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I went and she wanted to come, and so I

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:53.560
<v Speaker 1>took her as a date. And then this other time

0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:56.000
<v Speaker 1>she wanted to go, so she took me as a date. Uh.

0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:57.160
<v Speaker 1>And so it was just one of those things where

0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:59.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like where we should be going anyways, so let's

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 1>go together and enjoy it together. A cute date. It's

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:05.320
<v Speaker 1>almost a test. It could be a test, depending on

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:07.440
<v Speaker 1>who's doing the app it's not. I don't think it's

0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:09.919
<v Speaker 1>a cute, and I think I failed that test, Tana test.

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's a cute? First, it's a cute

0:58:13.200 --> 0:58:14.960
<v Speaker 1>third or fourth day? Yeah, of course, if you guys

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:17.360
<v Speaker 1>hang out, there's some chemistry there. And then at least

0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:19.280
<v Speaker 1>if you invite her to church, she knows that you're

0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 1>religious and Bubbo, you can have had that conversation, well

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:24.560
<v Speaker 1>knows I'm not religious. I'm open to the idea of

0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 1>that entire world, but on my own I'm not. And

0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing too, is like when I went post

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:31.240
<v Speaker 1>breakup back in April, when I started going, Um, i

0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:32.640
<v Speaker 1>went a few times and I was like, now I

0:58:32.640 --> 0:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>remember exactly why this isn't for me, because I hadn't

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>gone to church since I was fifteen years old. I

0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>went every Sunday until I was that age, um, and

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:41.440
<v Speaker 1>it was just one of those things where I was like,

0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that I tried it again, so that way

0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I can kind of really reaffirm the fact that it's

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 1>not something I'm interested in right now. And again, like

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 1>if the person that I eventually fell in love with

0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and got married too, if that was a big opponent

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of their life, I would have no issue with that.

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 1>But right now, which is one of those things where

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like it makes sense. I'm curious to think though,

0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:01.440
<v Speaker 1>if there wasn't so much pressure on this day between

0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you and Tania, if you would have held her hand

0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 1>or like been a little less cautious just for the

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 1>simple fact you're more in the moment rather than thinking

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:11.360
<v Speaker 1>about the ramifications of the day. I think that there

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 1>are there's two sides to this specific scenario. Um. I've

0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 1>always been an advocate of dating friends. Antonia and I

0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 1>have been friends for a year, so we know each

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:25.240
<v Speaker 1>other pretty well. UM. That being said, it's kind of

0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 1>on the other side of it. It's it kind of

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:28.240
<v Speaker 1>makes it a little bit more difficult to break down

0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that romantic barrier because then we're holding hands, and I'm like, oh,

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just holding hands with a friend, you know what

0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Uh, So that's the challenge. And so you're

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:38.640
<v Speaker 1>saying if if it wasn't, if I wasn't me and

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't. The reason I'm saying that is because you

0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:42.400
<v Speaker 1>made a comment earlier you said, like, holding hands for

0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 1>me is very intimates boyfriend girlfriend. I'm curious, though, if

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you were just platonic friends with somebody, I think you'd

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:49.600
<v Speaker 1>hold their hands and have no issue with it, because

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you're like, no, this is fine whatever. But now that

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:54.840
<v Speaker 1>there's like a potential romance, you feel more awkward about

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.120
<v Speaker 1>holding their hands because you're thinking about the future rather

0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:59.520
<v Speaker 1>than just being like, this doesn't mean anything. I've held

0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Ashley's hand, Yeah, I know. That's that's honestly the first

1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:04.600
<v Speaker 1>thing that popped in my head before we started dating.

1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:06.560
<v Speaker 1>But that was honestly the first thing that popped in

1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:10.360
<v Speaker 1>my head. I'm I'm I'm fine with it, guys, but no,

1:00:10.440 --> 1:00:15.520
<v Speaker 1>it's because I remember Ashley told me that, um and uh,

1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like, well, you're not holding's hand

1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:20.600
<v Speaker 1>in hand anymore. That's a really good point because I

1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:22.200
<v Speaker 1>think that both actually I knew that there would never

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:24.680
<v Speaker 1>be like a romantic interest on either exactly, so it

1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:26.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't awkward. You guys are just friends holding hands, there's

1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:30.160
<v Speaker 1>nothing to it. But now that you're like potentially forming

1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:33.000
<v Speaker 1>this relationship with Tanya, she's no longer just a friend.

1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:36.480
<v Speaker 1>She's a potential partner that you feel awkward holding your hand,

1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:38.360
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just curious to think, Like, I wonder if

1:00:38.360 --> 1:00:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you guys were just like, hey, let's hang out this

1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:43.360
<v Speaker 1>night and then didn't put any um projections on it,

1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:44.720
<v Speaker 1>if you would have held her hands. So you're not

1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a big thing, but just kind of something that popped

1:00:46.600 --> 1:00:49.920
<v Speaker 1>in my head. So you're saying I shot it down

1:00:49.960 --> 1:00:51.280
<v Speaker 1>before you even had the chance to take off. I

1:00:51.320 --> 1:00:55.280
<v Speaker 1>don't think you're shooting no, but I I'm curious to

1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:59.840
<v Speaker 1>see if that this cautious approach will hinder it and

1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:02.840
<v Speaker 1>anyway rather than trying to let it blossom. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any other way to do it

1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:07.160
<v Speaker 1>because we're all friends, were all hanging out, we all

1:01:07.160 --> 1:01:12.480
<v Speaker 1>work together, so it's like a little blurry blurry Yeah,

1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:15.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's interesting, So we'll see what happens next. I

1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:18.400
<v Speaker 1>have two more questions. One, she said, you walked in

1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:20.360
<v Speaker 1>front of her a lot. You did not like that.

1:01:20.480 --> 1:01:22.280
<v Speaker 1>She didn't like that because we did a morning hack

1:01:22.360 --> 1:01:24.480
<v Speaker 1>or something on the morning show. That that's that that's

1:01:24.480 --> 1:01:26.280
<v Speaker 1>a bad sign, that that he's not into you. Sign

1:01:26.800 --> 1:01:28.720
<v Speaker 1>a guy who's really into you will slow his gate

1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:31.000
<v Speaker 1>to stand to be walking next to you. And the

1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:32.520
<v Speaker 1>thing is, I don't really have much of response to that,

1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:35.680
<v Speaker 1>because that's apparently a subconscious thing. Yeah, it is. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe it was just one of those things

1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:41.000
<v Speaker 1>where I, I, I don't want to say it felt uncomfortable,

1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:44.120
<v Speaker 1>but I just like I felt like I hadn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that goes back to the point that maybe your

1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:48.760
<v Speaker 1>cautious approach might already like shoot down the potential of

1:01:48.800 --> 1:01:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys having something because you're overthinking it and you're

1:01:51.880 --> 1:01:54.040
<v Speaker 1>not allowing yourself to be in the moment because you're

1:01:54.080 --> 1:01:57.560
<v Speaker 1>too afraid of the consequences that could potentially come from

1:01:57.600 --> 1:02:00.120
<v Speaker 1>you guys trying it and not working out. Right, Like

1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:02.360
<v Speaker 1>I kind of almost have an obligation to take things slow.

1:02:02.760 --> 1:02:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you do. Yeah, that makes sense. I think you should. Man,

1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:10.160
<v Speaker 1>it's you pour bastard. I'm sorry. They talk about your dates.

1:02:11.480 --> 1:02:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm really I'm feeling very grateful right now. That's why

1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:16.480
<v Speaker 1>we're here to help I suck at dating. But I

1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:19.560
<v Speaker 1>also want people to know that, like everybody listening to

1:02:19.800 --> 1:02:22.520
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate Tanya and Dean putting themselves out there and

1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:26.560
<v Speaker 1>like analyzing your date, even something as simple as walking

1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:28.600
<v Speaker 1>in front like I'm sure so many people do that

1:02:28.640 --> 1:02:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and they don't even realize, but you're willing to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>say oh, yeah, I guess I was walking in front

1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of her. Maybe that wasn't a good sign. It's like

1:02:36.320 --> 1:02:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you're willing to say that, and Tanya's willing to talk

1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:39.720
<v Speaker 1>about it too, So I'll give you guys kudas one

1:02:39.760 --> 1:02:42.720
<v Speaker 1>more thing. So Tanya, we talked about how she's just Tanya,

1:02:42.760 --> 1:02:45.200
<v Speaker 1>that there is no air Tanya off air attorney, It's

1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:47.640
<v Speaker 1>just Tanya, which I love that about her absolutely. Why

1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:49.880
<v Speaker 1>she's so good at what she does. When you're at

1:02:49.920 --> 1:02:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Beutty Who and when she's at a concert she sings

1:02:52.480 --> 1:02:54.880
<v Speaker 1>at the top of her lungs, dances like like there's

1:02:54.880 --> 1:02:57.920
<v Speaker 1>nobody watching, just sings so loud. And some of that

1:02:57.960 --> 1:03:00.600
<v Speaker 1>was on Instagram. How do you see that? Because some

1:03:00.640 --> 1:03:03.040
<v Speaker 1>would find that annoying, and some find that adorable because

1:03:03.080 --> 1:03:04.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like she's a twelve year old. It's the most

1:03:04.640 --> 1:03:07.560
<v Speaker 1>endearing thing. I agree, I think it's adorable. I don't

1:03:07.600 --> 1:03:09.800
<v Speaker 1>think that that would, ever, in my opinion, be considered

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<v Speaker 1>a bad thing. I think the opposite would be bad,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like they're within themselves, they're not able to

1:03:15.360 --> 1:03:17.680
<v Speaker 1>let loose and have fun. And she was encouraging me too.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, all right, now, like you go up

1:03:19.040 --> 1:03:20.240
<v Speaker 1>there and jump up and down, and I'm gonna go

1:03:20.280 --> 1:03:21.360
<v Speaker 1>over here and jump up and down. I was like,

1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:23.160
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's great, let's go. This is much more

1:03:23.160 --> 1:03:25.920
<v Speaker 1>fun than so. I love people that are willing to

1:03:25.920 --> 1:03:27.720
<v Speaker 1>just make fools themselves and not even care because they

1:03:27.760 --> 1:03:29.160
<v Speaker 1>love something so much. For example, if I was at

1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:31.320
<v Speaker 1>a Matchbox twenty concert, I'm gonna lose my ship and

1:03:31.360 --> 1:03:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like start screaming, and like if actually was with me,

1:03:34.000 --> 1:03:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I hope she'd be like, oh, this is adorable. Conversely,

1:03:36.520 --> 1:03:39.240
<v Speaker 1>when we're at Backstreet Boys together, actually loses her mind,

1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and I love that because she just loves them so much.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great quality Tania possesses too. She's able to

1:03:43.640 --> 1:03:45.400
<v Speaker 1>find joy in just about anything and I think that's

1:03:45.400 --> 1:03:47.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty rare nowadays. And so you find someone like that,

1:03:47.800 --> 1:03:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you're like, okay, Like this girl can make any situation

1:03:50.480 --> 1:03:53.440
<v Speaker 1>into a fun situation, especially for someone like me, Like

1:03:53.480 --> 1:03:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I definitely I noticed that, and I'm like, Okay, that's awesome.

1:03:56.840 --> 1:04:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Every time I see Tanya, she is always smiling. She's awesome.

1:04:01.160 --> 1:04:04.560
<v Speaker 1>But so in terms of the next date, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we'll stop talking about it so much because he does

1:04:06.680 --> 1:04:08.760
<v Speaker 1>put pressure on it. That's my advice to you. But

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<v Speaker 1>she so we were talking yesterday and she I made

1:04:11.120 --> 1:04:13.160
<v Speaker 1>a comment that I've never seen a Grays Anatomy episode,

1:04:13.400 --> 1:04:14.680
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, oh my god, you have to watch

1:04:14.720 --> 1:04:17.840
<v Speaker 1>season two episodes sixteen and seventeen. I don't know what

1:04:17.880 --> 1:04:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that is, but I would watch the guy who had

1:04:19.920 --> 1:04:22.919
<v Speaker 1>the bomb and his abdomatic watched that episode, watch one.

1:04:23.000 --> 1:04:24.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the one OULD watch, and I'm like, okay, I'll

1:04:24.560 --> 1:04:26.600
<v Speaker 1>definitely watch this to get a better understanding of WHU

1:04:26.640 --> 1:04:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Tanya is as a person. And then I made her

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<v Speaker 1>watch my favorite childhood movie, which is this anime movie.

1:04:31.600 --> 1:04:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Easton might have heard of it, heard of Akida. Oh,

1:04:35.120 --> 1:04:38.080
<v Speaker 1>It's it's phenomenal. It's about set in Neo Tokyo. It's

1:04:38.160 --> 1:04:41.320
<v Speaker 1>it was made and not many people know. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite movies. I actually told her that yesterday. Um,

1:04:43.800 --> 1:04:45.439
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're one of three parts. Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been pronouncing it in a super white America. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how I always okay. A phenomenal movie. I've seen parts

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I've read parts of the manga as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're a bigger fan than I am. You got

1:04:59.600 --> 1:05:03.400
<v Speaker 1>hurt of to Japanese animated movie. I think I convinced

1:05:03.440 --> 1:05:05.080
<v Speaker 1>her to do it, but she hasn't done an yet.

1:05:05.120 --> 1:05:06.760
<v Speaker 1>So you guys go from your second day at church

1:05:06.800 --> 1:05:10.040
<v Speaker 1>to your third day at watching me. I have a

1:05:10.080 --> 1:05:12.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred questions. So this is hypocritical of me to say.

1:05:12.120 --> 1:05:13.720
<v Speaker 1>But if I were you, I would ask her out

1:05:13.760 --> 1:05:15.720
<v Speaker 1>on the down low, and you guys go out without

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<v Speaker 1>telling anybody to say, we haven't already had a second day. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of emails here, Caitlin. I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>to real quickly. Caitlin at the first date, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was so nervous for she felt physically ill. It was

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour before the date and she remembered the

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<v Speaker 1>hypnosis episode of the podcast. It was hypnotized so so

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm gonna try it. It worked. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>this session was over, I was totally relaxed, calm, and

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<v Speaker 1>excited for my day and throughout the day, it was

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<v Speaker 1>confidently at a great time. I felt so comfortable with

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<v Speaker 1>everything that was happening. Was fantastic. We have another date

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<v Speaker 1>plan this weekend. Thank you so much for having a

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<v Speaker 1>place to talk about things that are awkward or uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't always want to address and sharing those

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<v Speaker 1>discussions with us. Huge fan of all three of you,

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<v Speaker 1>including Vanessa. That's very sweet. Thank you so much. That

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<v Speaker 1>is very sweet. And Whitney has a question, Sorry, you

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about it. It It didn't say including Vanessa. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was funny. No, I'm just saying the three

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<v Speaker 1>of you. Whitney met a guy to wedding a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago. Totally hit it off. Nothing physical happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but we exchanged phone numbers. At the time, we were

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<v Speaker 1>long distance. He was in Chicago and I was in Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>but we did hang out a few times when I visited.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked for seven months after I just moved to

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago for a job. Since I've arrived, he's initiated more

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<v Speaker 1>conversations and doubtings and one on one dates and in groups.

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<v Speaker 1>He helped me do random stuff around my condo. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been very present. I don't feel like I'm in the

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<v Speaker 1>friend zone. But he's also not straight up asked me

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<v Speaker 1>on on a date or made a move. But am

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<v Speaker 1>I missing help? I super duper suck at dating, Whinney,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you super duper suck at dating, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he might suck a little bit. Guys, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>guys suck. We're just afraid to step up as it's

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<v Speaker 1>really true. We're just like you ever seen the episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Boy Means World where Eric goes up on stage

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, since the beginning of time, men have

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<v Speaker 1>been stupid, and then he's like, this is to make

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<v Speaker 1>up for it, and then all the guys come out

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<v Speaker 1>and dance. This is how I feel about guys. We

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<v Speaker 1>just like we continue to mess up time after time.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe this guy is just really afraid to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you out, but he's always like lingering around hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>something might happen. The challenging thing for a guy sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>too is and I think Tanya and I have we

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<v Speaker 1>discussed this a little bit is we spent all this

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<v Speaker 1>time building a rapport with someone, but that rapport is

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<v Speaker 1>purely friendly friendly, and then it's hard to break through

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<v Speaker 1>that wall of going from friend to romantic because you

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<v Speaker 1>have such a strong foundation as friends and it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's gonna be awkward if maybe I'll ask her out,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she'll say no, and then maybe, like the friendship

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<v Speaker 1>is jeopard as at that point too, who cares? Why

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<v Speaker 1>do we need so many friends? And I've never understood

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<v Speaker 1>that argument. I hate friends friends. I just don't get

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<v Speaker 1>the I don't know why you need so many friends

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<v Speaker 1>of the oppositect that you don't want to ruin the friendship,

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<v Speaker 1>ruin it if you have those feelings, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>ruined anyway. You have friends for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Um My thing is that you know when I'm older,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've talked about before, and uh so, back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, you hated asking people out because it's you

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<v Speaker 1>get nervous and you want to throw up, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>putting yourself out there and you're afraid of rejection. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a choice, though nowadays it seems you have

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<v Speaker 1>a choice because you can just swipe swipe, swipe swipe

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<v Speaker 1>and all this other stuff. They don't really have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask anybody out. And you're going group dates and he

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<v Speaker 1>just casual or maybe he's just gotten worse and worse

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<v Speaker 1>and worse over the years, but it seems like no

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<v Speaker 1>guys want to step up. I think he's interested. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's no other reason for him to be always

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<v Speaker 1>around and always doing stuff for you and hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>at your conduct and they've hung out in groups, he's

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<v Speaker 1>helped her, and he's responsibility to ask who out, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy or the girl cause she just asked him out.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the idea of her just saying, hey, can

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<v Speaker 1>we go on a date moment like that modern woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I say go for it. I agree, I say go

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<v Speaker 1>for it to He's not really stepping up, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>always around, so there's probably some sort of interest there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gotta be, And so yeah, when he I'd suggest

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<v Speaker 1>asking him out and exactly what's the worst that can happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe invite him over to the apartment one time

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<v Speaker 1>to help you, like hang a shelf and then just

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<v Speaker 1>jump his bones. Yeah, and then just show you're only

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a T shirt that works on a T shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's honestly, that's my suggestion. Maybe turn on some Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>Get some glasses of Barry Manilowan in the lines. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the sensory overload. We can't have Barry Manil and Netflix. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get a few sessions from the master cuddler

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<v Speaker 1>before she comes over. Oh good God in heaven. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are all we have today. All the emails will keep.

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<v Speaker 1>Please keep sending the emails in those are my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>part of the show. I suck at dating and I

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<v Speaker 1>hurt media dot com perfect. Keep sending them there. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much to Samantha Hess from the Not Not

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<v Speaker 1>Professional Cut anymore. She is a master cuddler. And thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for Samantha coming on the podcast. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, Haley uh for doing a therapy session

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<v Speaker 1>with Dean. I know Dean gained a lot from that,

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<v Speaker 1>and so did we as listeners. Haley, you are welcomed anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>Please come visit. Thank you planet Hollywood, where all of

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<v Speaker 1>us will be this weekend for the I Heart Festival.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we sign off fully and completely, is it inappropriate

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<v Speaker 1>to ask a perspective therapist out on a date. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. At this point. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you had a private session in her office, then

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes weird. But she was a guest on your podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got news for you. She's probably gonna listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast because she was on it, so she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna know that you're kinda It's all part of the plant.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening to this week's episode of Help

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<v Speaker 1>I Suck At Dating. I'm Dean, This is Jared with

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