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Speaker 1: Early signing day is upon us. Who's gonna have the

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Speaker 1: everybody fit. We're gonna break down every single school, their

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Speaker 1: I'm George Rice with Ralph Amston and this is the

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Speaker 1: signing day is almost upon us. This is like Christmas, man,

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Speaker 1: This is I mean, aside from the actual college football season,

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Speaker 1: State for four years. You know, he's got a family. Obviously,

433
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: this is gonna come with a with a monetary bump.

434
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a larger challenge. Um. I like Zach Hill.

435
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: I know you did too. One of the things I

436
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: like about him is he kind of runs traditional sets

437
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: out at Boise State, not that they can't, you know,

438
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 1: have some fun with that offense. Um, but there's a

439
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: lot of different offenses in the Mountain West. There's the

440
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: you know, run first stuff of New Mexico to the

441
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: air raid stuff out of Hawaii. You kind of got

442
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: to be ready for everything. So to say that Boise

443
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: State runs more traditional sets and they still get it

444
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: done means that Zach Hill knows that you use the

445
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: superior talent you get at Boise they probably recruit better

446
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: than anybody else in the Mountain West. You use the

447
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: superior talent and you exploit the strengths that you have,

448
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: and the defense is weaknesses because at the end of

449
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: the day, some defensive coordinators are just gonna have your

450
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: number and you have to turn around and rely on talent.

451
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: And he's been able to rely on talent. One of

452
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: the things he did at Boys this year that's absolutely

453
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: insane is not only did he go down to Florida

454
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: State and beat Florida State with a true freshman quarterback,

455
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: that quarterback got hurt and then he had to rely

456
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: on a red shirt freshman who had a very very

457
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: good four or five games, and then that guy got hurt.

458
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: Chase Cord and then they had to They went from

459
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: Hank black Meyer to Chase Cord to a Juco transfer

460
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: who possibly had the best gear out of the three

461
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: of them combined. And if he can do that with

462
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: three different quarterbacks, all relatively inexperienced, imagine what he can

463
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: do with Jayden Daniels. Ye yep, I mean that's gonna

464
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: be a good move. And you look at the other

465
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator openings, particularly at Oregon and and obviously Texas

466
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: is waiting to see what's gonna happen with Graham Harrow

467
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: so as USC. But it seems like both that Owes

468
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: schools are trying to lock up their coordinator situation. I

469
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: mean they're trying to lock up their recruiting classes. First. Um,

470
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: and you got Oregon, which is could be in on

471
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Speaker 1: Brian Lingren. I didn't, uh if I mean trying to

472
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: poach him from Oregon State, which would just I would

473
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: love that for them. How mad would Oregon State fans be?

474
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: They already hate Oregon. They're like they buy everything and

475
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: they're only that good because of Phil Knights money. And

476
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: if Phil Knights money buys Brian Lingren, they will be

477
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: sick because what what he was able to do with

478
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: Jake Lutton. Imagine what he'll be able to do with

479
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: either Uh Tyler, Shug Butterfield or whoever else. Um is

480
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: the quarterback next season, even though I do anticipate it

481
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: being shucked. Uh. The other and that running game, that

482
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: running game of Oregon states too. I mean, it's not

483
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: like Oregon couldn't already run the ball, but I'm sure

484
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: that offensive line would appreciate sobody who has that mindset

485
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: of using the run to set up the pass. Uh,

486
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: He's just he's good. They were good and if he

487
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: had anything to do with that much improved team. Their

488
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: defense was terrible. Their defense was leaky, They couldn't stop anybody,

489
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: but their offense did a good job. Just need some

490
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: exposive athletes. Um Chip Long, former UM Notre Dame officeive coordinator,

491
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: scored thirty seven points a game and got a pink slip. Wow. Okay,

492
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: Brian Brian Kelly, Yeah, I'm familiar with Yeah, I'm familiar

493
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: with Chip Long. He's a former tight ends coach at

494
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: Arizona State. He left with Mike Norvell to go to Memphis,

495
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: helped run their offense and sling that sling shot him

496
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: into uh the offensive coordinator role at at Notre Dame,

497
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: and I thought he was doing pretty well. But people

498
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: people don't like their coordinators. That that's just I'm resolved.

499
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: Are you talking to you? Um? That's that's the one

500
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: where the blame always falls. Yeah, I mean, and I'm

501
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: just remember, you know, Mike Novel just took this job

502
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: at Florida State, and I just laugh at how many

503
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: airs on the state fans were sick to death to

504
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: him when he left for Memphis, and now they're all

505
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: wondering what could have been, you know, if he's stuck

506
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: around and uh, you know he had half of timp

507
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: blocked after that that day that he you know, called

508
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: a a pass out of shotgun against Oregon in triple overtime. Um,

509
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: you know, he had people going after him and his

510
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: wife and and the whole program on Twitter. It was

511
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: just an absolute mass And and you know, I think

512
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: that that's been really anything that I've looked at anywhere

513
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: is you you got Notre Dame scoring thirty seven points

514
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: a game, and anytime somebody points that out, their fans

515
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, but the offense was predictable, And I'm like, okay, Well,

516
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: get David Copperfield in there or something, and if if

517
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: he can score thirty seven points a game and you

518
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: can do the ball disappearing trick or whatever else, you

519
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: need to be pleasantly surprised by that offense to get

520
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: you over there. I'm great, but I mean it really

521
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: feels very much in a lot of these situations, like

522
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, you don't know what you got till it's gone.

523
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: And I know you had your beef with the royal,

524
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: but when he took that job at U n LV,

525
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean you were feeling like, Okay, well, now what yo, man?

526
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: The the devil you know is always better than the

527
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: devil you don't know because you don't know. Because at

528
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: least I know what to expect out of a radio

529
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: I know and I and I've said it many times.

530
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a much better head coach.

531
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: And he was an offensive coordinator. But at the same time,

532
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: it was only his second season ever coordinated, and he

533
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: was getting better, right, So I would have been fine

534
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: with the third season. But at the same time, I'm

535
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: not mad if you bring in somebody like Red Lashly

536
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: from s m U, maybe Chip Long. I'm not mad

537
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: at that either, um, but uh, before well, actually, what's

538
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: cal gonna do? I mean, but Bo Baldwin left a

539
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: really good FCS job to take a coordinator job in

540
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve and then he goes and takes a

541
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: head coaching job back in the Big Sky at a

542
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: worst school then he was at originally is does that

543
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: feel like a downgrade? Do you to go from Eastern? Well,

544
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 1: he was at Eastern Washington right and ends up at

545
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: count And that's weird. I'm part part of that those

546
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: because Col's office was just absolutely atrocious. I mean, part

547
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: part of it was his fault. Part of it was

548
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: person Actually I would say a tiny portion of it

549
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: was his fault. The lion's share of it was a

550
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: personnel problem. And then on top of that, you stack

551
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: on top of it that your quarterback got hurt and

552
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: you don't have a backup, serviceable backup. You can't win

553
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: like that. Look at Oregon when Justin Herbert went down

554
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: and uh and Braxton Burmeister had to come in or

555
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: Taylor Ali had to come in. Good kids, bad quarterbacks.

556
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: It just is what it is, you know, Like, if

557
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: you don't have a quality backup, you are in huge trouble,

558
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: Like if he can't stand back there, read defenses and

559
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: deliver the ball on time and on target. Forget about it, dude,

560
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: You you cannot win football games. But now we can

561
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: go through the each recruiting class from each team in

562
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve. Uh, Ralph's gonna break down the classes.

563
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: I'll talk about what what each team needs and um.

564
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: But just overall, Ralph, where do you anticipate, because Ralph's

565
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: obviously very well connected in this everything, where where do

566
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: you anticipate these classes, like the top couple classes finishing

567
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: In terms of the rest of the nation. I think

568
00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve will have two top fifteen classes, so

569
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: that that's pretty good considering the year they had. I

570
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: think that you'll have both Washington and Oregon in the

571
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: top fifteen, maybe even pushing top ten UM. And then

572
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: from that point, I think Arizona State, if if something's

573
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: come together for Arizona State, you could see them in

574
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: the top thirty UM. And I you know, for everybody else,

575
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna see a lot of teams

576
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: in between thirty and forty. And that's that's not good, um,

577
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: but it's not terrible. One of the biggest issues is

578
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: just the bleed out from very quality talent in this

579
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: conference um out into other conferences. California's top you know,

580
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: if California's top twenty players, you've got a bunch of

581
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: them all headed out of state and out of conference.

582
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: You know, if they were staying then it would be

583
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: a little bit different. You know. The number one recruit

584
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: out of California's going to Clemson. The number two recruit

585
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: out of California is going to Alabama, number four recruit

586
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: at of California is going to Georgia. The number seven

587
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: recruit out of California is going to Ohio State. UM

588
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: number ten recruit at of California's going to Ohio State.

589
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: So far, only two out of the top ten in

590
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: California have pledged in conference, and that's Jay Butterfield Oregon

591
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: and Jalen McMillan to Washington. That type of stuff is

592
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: gonna make it really hard to be really high in

593
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: the recruiting rankings. But I still feel at the end

594
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: of the day, Oregon Washington will pull in two really

595
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: good classes and Stanford might have the surprise class. As

596
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: far as just national rankings of the whole thing, I

597
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: think they could pull a top twenty class despite going

598
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: four and eight. Yeah see wow, while I am so,

599
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: let's say that that there's three teams in the top

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00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: twenty and I'm still not as a Pack twelve fan,

601
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't sit well with me, just from the fact

602
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: that the same teams are in the top ten Clemson, Alabama,

603
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: l s U, Ohio State, Texan and Georgia, Texas, Florida

604
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma. You know that those teams are typically in

605
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: the top ten every single year. And when you look

606
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: at winning a national championship, like people have done studies

607
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: on it, all of this that of the past ten

608
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: or twelve national champions all of them had a top five,

609
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: five or six class within four years of winning that

610
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: national championship. So how is the PAC twelve supposed to

611
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: win a national championship when you're when your closest team

612
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: that you've had in recent memory and well, well you

613
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: had usc have a top tier class. Well what was

614
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: that sevent team? And uh, like a top five class

615
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: and sevent team. But aside from that, Oregon has been

616
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: the only other team that's been inside the top ten. Well,

617
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean U c l A two good years that

618
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: they pretty much wasted, but we're not. We won't talk

619
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: about Yeah. So so you so you're just like, how

620
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 1: can you win in National Championship top twenty classes while

621
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: they are good? I think to think about this, people,

622
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: there are sixty four Power five teams, sixty five if

623
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: you count noted Notre Dame. If you're in the top twenty,

624
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: you're just in the top three. You're you're not in

625
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: elite territory. Elite territories like top ten percent. If you're

626
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: not in that top ten percent, it's very difficult to

627
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: get top ten percent results unless you have unless you

628
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: hit on a couple of players and they turn out

629
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: to be you know, you know, like you hit on

630
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: a couple of three stars that turned out to be

631
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: top ten picks, and even then you probably need a

632
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: friendly schedule. Yeah, yeah, Like it just doesn't work like that.

633
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 1: So I know people will tell you stars don't matter.

634
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: Yet they don't for individual players and their potential to

635
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: make get to the UH to the NFL, But they

636
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: do matter when it comes to team success. Absolutely. I mean,

637
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: you could not be you cannot be more right. It's

638
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: it's team effort, and especially what you do on the

639
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive lines. There's no teams competing for national

640
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: championship that aren't filled with four and five stars on

641
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: both sides of the line. That's you know, skill players matter,

642
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: they absolutely matter. But unless you are running out there

643
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: with the biggest and baddest and unless you can bully

644
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: somebody else, you're not taking home the trophy. No, not

645
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: at all. So I usually use twenty four seven for

646
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: my recruiting rankings. Ralph hughes his rivals because he's a

647
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: Rivals guy. I I don't have a preference to either one.

648
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: The only reason why I use seven is because with

649
00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: my Football Writers of America, uh deal, I get seven

650
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: for free. So that's what I use. Um that makes

651
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: sense to me. It makes perfect sense to me. Um

652
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: So right right now, and then you can tell me

653
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: how Rivals has it route for right now, it has

654
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: Washington one. These are just packed twelve francs Washington one,

655
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: Oregon two, Stanford three, U C l A for Cal five,

656
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: Colorado six, Arizona State, seven, Oregon State eight, Washington State nine,

657
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: Arizona ten, USC eleven. And you talk to wealth, Yeah,

658
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: it's about the exact same on on rivals where where

659
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: just have on seven, because on rivals, it's got Washington

660
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: with the number ten class as of as of today

661
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: heading into the early signing day week and UH and

662
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: then Oregon tied for eleventh. Oh he's got uh in seven.

663
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: It has Washington fourteen and Oregon sixteen. Okay, okay, Yeah,

664
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: so there's probably a difference of maybe one or two

665
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: players that's a fourth star instead of a three. I'm

666
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: a big fan of Blair Angulo, who does a lot

667
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: of the evaluations for the West Coast over at over.

668
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: I think he does a really really good job. I

669
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: know he gets out to see a lot of these players.

670
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: I was just at the Arizona State Champion Chips watching

671
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: some games and some talent with him on the sideline,

672
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: So you know I either way, you know, I work

673
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: with with rivals, So these are this is going to

674
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: be the reference point for me UM as far as

675
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Rivals rankings go. But as far as UM, I'll at

676
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: least trust seven over the composite rankings that include ESPN

677
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: because I've been out to so many high school games

678
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: and I've yet to see anybody from ESPN, you know,

679
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: watching any of these kids live. I'm not really sure

680
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: how they get there that is that is very interesting

681
00:38:53,840 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: because their their rankings are vastly different than UM then

682
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: rivals or seven, so those those are always very interesting.

683
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: UM So, I guess we'll start at the bottom Ralph

684
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: the bottom of the back twelve because we have surprisingly

685
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: Utah is at number twelve, So I guess we will

686
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: start there. And I'm looking at utass team from last year.

687
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna lose their UH star running back who they're

688
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: all time leading rusher, Zack Moss. They're gonna lose their

689
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: quarterback efficiency game manager Tyler Huntley. They're probably gonna lose

690
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: Jaden Jalen Johnson the corner. It's probably gonna be a

691
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: high NFL draft pick, Lecky Photo. They're gonna lose uh

692
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: Brandon and I as well. Yeah, and I and I

693
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: in uh Pensini, right, he'll probably be gone. They're gonna

694
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: be decimated as far as just their senior talent. Yeah.

695
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: And this is a team that kids don't really come

696
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: in and play early because they're usingly not ready. They

697
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: developed town and I'm looking at them, I'm like, they

698
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: need a quarterback, they need a running back, they need

699
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: some some more twenty seven year old defensive linemen and

700
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: linebackers who have come off their their missions already they

701
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: need Like this feels like a team that who will

702
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: not be picked to go to win the Pack twelve

703
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: championship like they were this year. Yeah, I am I

704
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm I am fascinated by this class because up until

705
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, they didn't have a single

706
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: commit from any state with a Pack twelve school in it.

707
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: They had really just been focusing on Texas, which I

708
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: think is really really good for them. Um, I'm I'm

709
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: surprised they didn't double dip into Florida because that's where

710
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: Zach monson Tyler Huntley are from. Um. You know, I'm

711
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: always surprised when people don't kind of ride the hot

712
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: hand and capitalize on on recruits from a specific area.

713
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: But they've really really hit Texas hard. They've got two

714
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: running backs, a couple of linebackers from from Texas that

715
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 1: I think will be really good, a wide receiver from Texas.

716
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: They they really really hit Texas hard. Um, this class,

717
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: there's nobody that jumps out at me as somebody who's

718
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: gonna come in and play right away. But it is

719
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: so far, it's looking very much like a Utah recruiting class.

720
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: Tyler we just from San Juan Capastrano, California, six six

721
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: to ten defensive end. They're probably gonna get him out there,

722
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: take three years to put forty five pounds on him,

723
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: and then he'll be out there terrorizing everybody like Lucky Poet. Um.

724
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: If there's anybody from this class that I feel like

725
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: could make an impact right away. They've obviously got room

726
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: for a running back to come in, but they do

727
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: have a couple of running backs ready to go. Uh.

728
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be able to replace Sack Moss's production,

729
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: but they do have a couple running backs on that

730
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: roster that I like. It's probably this athlete who will

731
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: they'll turn into a defensive back, Kane Savage out of Anaheim, California,

732
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: former Arizona State commit. Uh. You just gotta love his

733
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: last name. And he's maybe one of the best players

734
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: to come out of Anaheim. Um in a while, he's

735
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: he could be a really really good player. And um,

736
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: you know guys like Jalen Johnson, who I think was

737
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: a Juco product who came in. No, no, no, Jalen

738
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: Johnson wasn't Joy product, but he came in ready to go,

739
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: and that that's kind of few and far between from them.

740
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: But I think that I think that Kane Savage is

741
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: a guy who might see the field. Um and then

742
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm just really really interested to see if they can,

743
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: you know, because again they did not as of two

744
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: weeks ago, they did not have a single recruit out

745
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: of any state that had a Pack twelve school in it.

746
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: And now they've added four Alex Harrison out of Bountiful,

747
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: Utah six five three twenty offensive lineman and then Kenzel Lawler.

748
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: Uh we just so I talked about in Kane Savage

749
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: out of California. So they are finally starting to get

750
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: some people from the areas that you would expect, um

751
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: and and it's still maddening to me that they could

752
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: be one win away from playing for a national championship

753
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: and still bringing up the rear of the Pack twelve

754
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: as far as recruiting. So it's really on them. There's

755
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on them to close this out strong.

756
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: The thing that's weird to me is that like, what

757
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: did you, like, how did you botch this up? Because

758
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: like when when when you look at like when you

759
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: go on rivals, when you're going seven wherever. When you

760
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: look at coaches now, they're not ranked by their ability

761
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: to coach, they're ranked by their ability to recruit. There

762
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: are so many times that you see coaches the head

763
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: coaches higher guys who are six position coaches is rated

764
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: a six or seven position coach or even at eight,

765
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: but they're a tan recruiter. And guess what, they're on

766
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: staff and they're moving up the ranks super quick because

767
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: they know that talent can fade somebody who is just

768
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: learning to coach the position as long as they can

769
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: get guys in. And then some of those guys aren't

770
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: even true position coaches. They're more just focused on the

771
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: on the recruiting while another guy handles the actual um

772
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: position coaching of the players, and that guy just recruits, right.

773
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: And you and I have talked a little bit about

774
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: uh Dante Williams. You know, perhaps I don't give him

775
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: enough credit for for his work with the defensive backs

776
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: out at Oregon, but there's a really good reason he

777
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: went from San Jose State to Arizona, Nebraska to Oregon

778
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: in four years, and that's because those teams that were

779
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: poaching him each time felt confident in his ability to

780
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: poach players, right, so he can go out there and say, hey,

781
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: this is where you need to spend four years. And

782
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: then the next year he's gone coaching at the next

783
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: place trying to bring and talent um and a s

784
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: U is in the middle of doing that right now.

785
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: Arizona State just got a grat assistant named Prentice gil

786
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: from Oregon and uh and it feels very much recruiting

787
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: purpose driven. As you know, they made him a wide

788
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: receiver's coach, but they also elevated Derek Hagan from analysts

789
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: to wide receivers coach. So now you have two guys

790
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: coach in the same position because one of them is

791
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: probably gonna do the bulk of a coach and while

792
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: the other one is primarily responsible for, you know, flipping recruits.

793
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: And so that is a very very common thing that

794
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: and and and it's tough because that you we talked

795
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: about this earlier in the podcast of how you know

796
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: everybody wants that trophy. It's a hunt, right, everybody wants

797
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: that trophy on their mantel of saying I got ex

798
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: player to go to X school, but they don't even

799
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: have any intention of staying at that school. You know,

800
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: they just want to say that they they they achieved

801
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: their goal on the hunt. UM. And so that's why,

802
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm wary of some of these coaches that

803
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: are just out there to be ace recruiters because there's

804
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: not really an allegiance to the to the coaching side

805
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: of it, to sticking around and making sure that they develop,

806
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: because you figured that that would give them even more credibility.

807
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: Because if a player turns out as good as as

808
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: good as you know, their recruiting ranking coming out of

809
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: high school says that they're gonna be, then that's all

810
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: the more reason to see. The better that you recruit,

811
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: the better it is, the easier it is for you

812
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: to win. That these are the rules. So Utah is

813
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: up against it right now, and it's going to take

814
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: them a couple of years to develop these kids, and honestly,

815
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: they might need to get in the juco market or

816
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: the graduate transfer market to be competitive for next year. UM.

817
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: The next team up going from the bottom to the

818
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: top is USC, who a day ago was below Utah

819
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve. They were twelve in the Pact

820
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: of in recruiting. They only have ten recruits. So Ralph

821
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: Ralph I know that you can break this down, like

822
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: because some of the classes have twenty five recruits that

823
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: them have ten. How does this work like where USC

824
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: can't possibly finish last they even though they only have

825
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: ten commits. Right, No, they're gonna skyrocket because they're gonna

826
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: get a couple of good players and that's gonna jump

827
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: them up spots. Um, they'll be fine. You know, USC

828
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: is gonna be fine. They're not gonna be good. It's

829
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: not gonna be a good class. Um, it's not gonna

830
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: fit the USC standard. Um. But now, right now, as

831
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: far as rivals is concerned, being tied for last place

832
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve, that's that's not how this is

833
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna finish out. Now, there's not a lot to like

834
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: about this class as far as the ranking is concerned.

835
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't actually hate the recruiting class that they're putting together,

836
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: though it's all gonna depend not really on how they

837
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: finish it out. But if there's one thing, there's been

838
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: a massive shortage of in the PAC twelve of the

839
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: last couple of years, which is maybe one of the

840
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: reasons why Packed twelve teams haven't been able to compete

841
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: on the national level. It's the tackle position. There are

842
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: not a lot of true tackles floating around in and

843
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm talking about offensive tackles in the PAC twelve. Well,

844
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: the USC is sort of hoarding them in this class.

845
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: They're not the highest rated guys in the world. But

846
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, Courtland Ford out of Cedar Hill, Texas, he's

847
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: six six three. Casey coll You're out of Baytown, Texas,

848
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: he's six seven, Caden Stephen out of Camas, Washington six

849
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: six to eight. Jonah Monheim at a more Park uh California,

850
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: he's six to eighties. Really their smallest offensive linemen in

851
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: this class. Andrews to work out of Los Gatos, California,

852
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: is six six. And Andrew Millick, who have seen a

853
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: bunch of out of Chandler, Arizona out here at Brophy Prep,

854
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: he's six five. They got six six out of the

855
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: ten that they have committed right now are all offensive linemen,

856
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: all six four or taller. And you know, USC traditionally

857
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: has no problem pulling skill position players, no problem doing

858
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: that at all. Um So if they can lock it

859
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: up to where they're able to block for you know,

860
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: for for Keaton Slovis or j T. Daniels or whoever

861
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: is going to be you know, passing the ball the

862
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: next couple of years out there. I think the position

863
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: uh stuff, it's gonna come. The skill position stuff. They

864
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: can't stay away from USC. That's the school they want

865
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: to be at. You know. They just want to sort

866
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: of like unionize and force change, and it's not gonna

867
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: work out that way obviously, and so they're still gonna

868
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: have to make the decision that if you want to

869
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: fight on, you gotta drop your fight, right So, um,

870
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: I think I think that some of these recruits are

871
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to sort of just say, all right, we

872
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: we held out long enough, let's go to USC UM

873
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: and USC will have at least there's a few of

874
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: these linemen that are gonna they're gonna do really well

875
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: for themselves. Um at the college level. They have the

876
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: size to do so, and if they get coached up well,

877
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: I think that they'll be good. So I don't hate

878
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: this class, even though they definitely they definitely need to

879
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: add some serious pieces, uh. And what they're lacking most

880
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: of all right now, linebackers and cornerbacks don't have any Yeah,

881
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: and that's where they need to get better because their

882
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: set at quarterback with Keaton Keaton Slovis and j. D.

883
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: Daniels potentially backing him up, and um, they really won't

884
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: need a quarterback in this class. But then then after

885
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: that they have the Garcia kid who committed as soon

886
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: as Bryce Young was like, no, I'm out, I'm going

887
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: to Alabama. Um they have Um, they're they're pretty good

888
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: at well, not pretty good. They're still gonna be really

889
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: good at wide receiver. Tyler Vaughn's may or may not

890
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: come out in the draft. Pittman is gone, he was

891
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: a senior. I'm murrasst Brown will be back. The Drake

892
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: kid will be back. Um, they're there. Their defensive line

893
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: could use a little bit more depth. But what was

894
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: his name, Drake Jackson? He was yeah, consistent all season

895
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: the baller. Um, they're okay at linebacker, but line linebacker

896
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: and secondary they gotta get better. The kid ha Funga.

897
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: He's a great tackler. It's always hurt and he doesn't

898
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: really cover all that great. But they I mean, this

899
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: is a team that is very talented. They need another

900
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: running back, but they're they're they're not bad. They still

901
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: got Stephen Carr. The the freshman who played at the

902
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: end of the season, MALAPAYI should should should be back.

903
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: This is not I mean this team, it's still going

904
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: to be good. They just need some additional pieces. But

905
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: but here, here's the thing that I want people to

906
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: focus on as far as it goes in classes, is

907
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: that US the only has ten commits right now. Ten

908
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: com it. So what that turns around the means is okay,

909
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: So how does that relate to the rest of the country,

910
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: Because there is quality of class versus size of class,

911
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: because there there was one year Lane Kiffin had a

912
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: top thirteen class and he on they had thirteen players

913
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: in it thirteen. So yes, the size matters, but also

914
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: what you're getting in that class. So rout, how does

915
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: this USC class with ten commits rank like with other

916
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: teams around the country with about the same amount of commits.

917
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: That's a great question. Not not well, So we'll say

918
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: that they have ten commits right now. Let's look at

919
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: anybody who has twelve or less. Uh, there's a couple

920
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: of group of five teams that are currently ahead of

921
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: them right now in some lower tier Power five teams

922
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: that are also a little bit ahead of them. Um,

923
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, Duke has twelve commits and they're currently ranked

924
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: ahead of USC according to Rivals. Vanderbilt as twelve commits,

925
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: they're currently ranked ahead of USC. According to Rivals. Illinois

926
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: has twelve. They're at sixty four, which is eight spots

927
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: ahead of UM of USC. I believe Missouri is at

928
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: sixty with twelve commits. M Virginia and TCU have thirteen

929
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: apiece their fiftieth and fifty second. UM. Let's see, I

930
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: think there was one or two at Florida State. They

931
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: only have thirteen commits right now, but they're all pretty good,

932
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: which has them at thirty six in the country. UM.

933
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: You know that that's that just goes to show you

934
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: as long as as long as the players that you're

935
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 1: securing are ranked, you know, four stars and the star system.

936
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 1: Let's be really clear. If Rivals gives somebody four stars,

937
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: and what they're saying is that player is probably gonna

938
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: start a couple of years in college. If Rivals gives

939
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: somebody five stars, they're saying they expect that player to

940
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: eventual will be a first round pick in the NFL draft.

941
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: So you know, if you only get ten commits and

942
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: they're all four and five stars. You're gonna be ranked

943
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: way ahead of everybody else. But right now USC is

944
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: sitting with I think nine four stars on a two

945
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: star kicker or not nine three stars. I apologize. They're

946
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: not gonna have trouble filling the fifteen spots, So yes,

947
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna go up um the next team Arizona fourteen

948
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: commits at this point in time. This is the complete

949
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: opposite of USC's problem. You. USC has talent everywhere. That's

950
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: why their fans are so upset about the coaching. Arizona,

951
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: on the other hand, there they have holes everywhere. Who's

952
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna be their quarterback? Are they in love with Grant Goodell? Uh?

953
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: Kevin Sumpley didn't show that this year, kept switching them

954
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: out like what it was bad there. They don't have

955
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: depth at wide receiver or any like real real talent

956
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: at ride wide receiver. On defense, what do you You're not?

957
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: Your best player was Colin Schooler and and he's a

958
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: late round NFL draft pick. I'm not even sure if

959
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: you have any other NFL draft picks on the defense

960
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: that we're starting this last year. This is not I mean,

961
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: this team does not look like a team that can

962
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: be very competitive in the Pact twelve probably gonna be

963
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: picked to finish last in the South Route. Can any

964
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: of these four team commits, no four stars come in

965
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: and help Arizona immediately or change the tide? I mean

966
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: they need j C transfers, They need JUCO transfers. This

967
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: team needs depth and they need talent in a hard way.

968
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: And I thought Kevin Somelon could recruit Arizona. I thought

969
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: he could recruit Texas. What is happening? I don't know.

970
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: Just today, George, just today two of their players announced

971
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: that they won't sign early. So for other offers, well,

972
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: they're they're holding out to see who the defensive coordinator

973
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: is going to be, who the defensive line coach is

974
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: going to be, if anybody else on this coaching staff

975
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: is gonna get fired when contracts come up. Um, and

976
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: so all of the sudden, you know, Cedric Melton, who

977
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: is probably their best offensive line commit out of Houston, Texas,

978
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: is going to wait until February. Um. Alphonse i Wack

979
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: out of Seattle, Washington, a six ft three cornerback who

980
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: they really really need, just tweeted, I'm not signing early.

981
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: To clear confusion due to uncertainty on Arizona's coaching staff

982
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: right now, I will not be signing early. Those two

983
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: things are not great. You know. Their longest commit is

984
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: a local guy, quarterback, Will Plumber Um, you know, and

985
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: the way that things go with quarterbacks, I'm sure that

986
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: there there are plenty of schools that are going to

987
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: take advantage of the fact that there's some confusion about

988
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: what's going on right now and will be blowing his

989
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: phone up as well. The only I only see one

990
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: guy in this entire class that I believe can come

991
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: in and compete right away for playing time, and that's

992
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: Carrie Crump out of Culver City, California, three star, five

993
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: seventy pound defensive back and UH. And the reason that

994
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: he'd be able to come in and compete right away

995
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: has almost as much to do with the fact that

996
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: there's then at defensive back as it does his skill.

997
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: This is this is tough man. That there are two

998
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: receivers that they pulled in this class. Um. They both

999
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: UH their their developmental projects. They got Roberto Miranda out

1000
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: of Germany and Dilon Miller, who was sort of a

1001
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: tight end h back guy, UM who's really talented. But

1002
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, they've got to find out a role for him.

1003
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: They got a guy named Reagan Terry, sixty pound monster

1004
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: that played against tiny competition and if he you know,

1005
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: that worked for Pinassl. But for some guys, there's a

1006
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: huge shock factor of trying to go up and play

1007
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: at that next level when when everybody you've played against

1008
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: is so small. So I don't like this recruiting class.

1009
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of guys that are gonna

1010
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: come in and do anything right away. And they were

1011
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: so thin last year that it makes you wonder if

1012
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: the guys who did get experience and stuck around are

1013
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: gonna be able to step up or if they're going

1014
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: to be affected by more coaching changes. Wow, the future

1015
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: does not look very bright in Arizona. And at this

1016
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: point in time, they're probably wishing that they have rich

1017
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: Rod back. Um. Yeah, that and that's not good. Uh.

1018
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: Next up, we got Washington State with nineteen commits, when

1019
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: when I look at Washington State's recruiting classes, I don't

1020
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: expect to be like wowed. Um. Their defense was not

1021
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: as good as it had been the previous two seasons,

1022
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: particularly their their pass rush because they always played with

1023
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of undersized uh defensive tackles, and the defensive

1024
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: is they want to be fast. All it is rush

1025
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: to quarterback. And they almost played like the Indianapolis Colts

1026
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: played when they had Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis Russian

1027
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: where they stopped to run on the way to the quarterback.

1028
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: And Washington State they had the issue with their defensive

1029
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: coordinator this year. Tracy Clay's quit in the middle of

1030
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: the season. Got into it with with Mike Leach, you had,

1031
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: the defense didn't get any better. And so when I

1032
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: look at this recruiting class, I'm like, Okay, you got

1033
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: a ton of wide receivers, got quarterbacks even though you

1034
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: got like thirty of them on the roster already, you

1035
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: got offensive lineman. Where is the help on the defense?

1036
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: Ralph uh So, I'm with you that they did a

1037
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: really good a job like they always do, of restock

1038
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: in the offense. Jaden Delora out of Honolulu, Hawaii St.

1039
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: Louis High School out there, really good high school. He's

1040
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: gonna be another good quarterback for them. But I think

1041
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: they already got like six scholarship kids, so you know,

1042
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how that works out. They

1043
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: got a bunch more offensive linemen, some developmental kids to

1044
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: come in and fill fill in. And they've got some

1045
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: good guys coming back as well. Jiden King at a

1046
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: Calabasas is going to be a good running back for them. Um,

1047
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, might do some slot stuff as well. Could

1048
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: get on the field early. We'll see. Um. But you know,

1049
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: they they got a couple of linebackers. But they what

1050
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: they need to do is they need to stock up

1051
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: on defense. I mean, they could have an entire class

1052
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: where they don't take a single offensive player, and I

1053
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: don't think anybody would blame him because it at this point,

1054
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: it's just kind of common knowledge that what Mike Leach

1055
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: does on offense works. You know, I don't see much

1056
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: drop off coming from Anthony Gordon to whoever takes over next.

1057
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: You know, nothing against nothing against Gordon at all, but

1058
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: you know that's just the way that this offense works.

1059
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 1: They're gonna get a bunch of yards. Um, they need

1060
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: someone to get there. The when they were at their best,

1061
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: they were getting stops defensively. Um. And I keep I

1062
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: look at this class and I keep thinking back to

1063
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: that thing that you and I talked about a couple

1064
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: episodes ago where that player that that that ended up

1065
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: decommitting from Washington and going to Wyoming said that, you know,

1066
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that nobody at Washington State cares

1067
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Speaker 1: about winning the Apple Cup is nobody on Washington State

1068
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: is from Washington State. And I'm looking at the nineteen

1069
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: commitments that they have right now, and so far, only

1070
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: one of them, Devin Kailani and an offensive lineman out

1071
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: of Lake Stevens, is actually from the state of Washington.

1072
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: So what if you're Mike leads, you obviously need top

1073
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: tier wide wide receivers and to to run your offense.

1074
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, like, why I know that

1075
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: there is more talent, like overall there's more talent in

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01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: in California that then there are at a lot of

1077
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: other states, right, But I'm looking at it and I'm saying, Okay,

1078
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: why is there being such a difficulty recruiting the state

1079
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: of Washington so well, like are they not going? Are

1080
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: they not going there? Because I mean there's literally only

1081
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: out of their recruits, out of their commits, they have

1082
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: won one from the state of Washington. That doesn't make

1083
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: sense when there are kids in Washington who I mean

1084
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: even the top kid, the number one or number two

1085
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: kids in the class. It's out of the state of Washington.

1086
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: What so there are kids there, smallest is there this year?

1087
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: There are some top tier kids there. Why are you

1088
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: not in on any of them? Right? And and the

1089
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: the kid they did get isn't even ranked in the

1090
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: top ten of of this year's rivals in state rankings

1091
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: for the state of Washington. Um. And so you know,

1092
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: I think everybody has that issue. You know, Texas, definitely, Arizona,

1093
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: California struggling it with it right now where kids just

1094
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: kind of want to leave. But at the same time,

1095
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: you should be able to do better than one player

1096
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: in in in your home state, especially if you got

1097
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: the words state in your school name, you should definitely

1098
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: be representing you know, or or attempting to represent your

1099
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: your home state because it's uh, it just it makes

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01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: for a better, more special experience. I think, oh for sure,

1101
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: for sure. Um, the next team up, well, so what

1102
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: Washington State has had a Mike leaked. He can reload

1103
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: at quarterback, so they will continue to be a tricky

1104
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: team to play. But I don't see him as special

1105
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: next season. Uh, they need to get a guy who

1106
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: can come in and be a three year starting quarterback.

1107
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: Maybe sit the first year, learned the offense, and then

1108
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: that's when you're gonna have them turn around and do

1109
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: something special. I think, UM, you have next up Oregon State.

1110
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: Oregon State. I promise you I would have voted, especially

1111
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: if they had gone to a bowl game. Jonathan Smith,

1112
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,959
Speaker 1: Pack twelve Culture the year they far exceeded expectations, far

1113
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: exceeded And like Jake Lutton looked awful before this year,

1114
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: he didn't look like he was a good quarterback. Now

1115
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: this year he threw a lot of touchdowns, didn't throw

1116
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: a lot of interceptions. The a team that lost what

1117
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: eight games last seven or eight games the previous season

1118
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: by at least twenty one points, was competitive in all

1119
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: but what like two games. That is a big step

1120
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: in the right direction. And they were picked the finish

1121
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,959
Speaker 1: last in the North and they didn't had the same

1122
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: pack twelve records Washington. Um, this is you know, their

1123
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: their recruiting class. I need to um replace Isaiah Hodgens.

1124
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: Obviously their were wide receiver. Is Jevia their quarterback going forward?

1125
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: The kid who started against Oregon made his first start. Um,

1126
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: they need another running back because Jamar Jefferson will be back,

1127
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: but Artavius pierces out um hamilcar Rochette is going to

1128
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: the draft, right. I don't think he's announced yet, but

1129
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you can probably use another year. But also

1130
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean I told wouldn't I wouldn't blame him on

1131
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: capitalizing on what he did this year. Yeah, but it's

1132
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: as good as he was, it didn't feel as dominant

1133
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: as I think you need to be. I I'm with you.

1134
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: I think he could use another year. And did you

1135
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: see him, by the way, did you see him not

1136
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: too pleased with being packed twelve second team? And then

1137
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated went ahead and put him on the like

1138
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: national first team that they put out and so he's like, yeah,

1139
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: that's team was a joke. It was a joke. Like

1140
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: it was a joke, and John John Wilner wrote a

1141
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: really good article about it. It was an absolute joke.

1142
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: And you pointed out one of the biggest hypocrisy is

1143
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: on it. How do you give Cabon Thibadeaux pack twelve

1144
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: freshman Defensive Player of the Year and then you put

1145
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: another freshman on second team and he's not on there

1146
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: whatever at his position I digress um, a team that

1147
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: made the next team up may actually and we would

1148
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: get into some four star guys fourteen commits Arizona State

1149
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: four or four stars that they ten three stars. This

1150
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: is a team who is making a crazy push because

1151
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: obviously they have Brandon I you returning the bet. The

1152
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: star the bell of the ball is Jane Daniels. You know,

1153
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: this team looks like they are a team on the

1154
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: up and up, but they need a running back drastically.

1155
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: They need um. They're gonna need some help in the

1156
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: secondary too, with Jack Jones gone, they're gonna need um,

1157
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, like their linebackers they're young. Just some more

1158
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: general depth. Oh but most importantly, help on the damn

1159
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: offensive line. Help your boy Jane Daniels out keep him upright?

1160
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: So is how is this class going to finish their

1161
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: seventh in the pack twelve right now? According to twenty

1162
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: four seven. But I'm hearing that they're trying to pull

1163
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: some rabbits out of the hat. Well. But so before

1164
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: I talk about Arizona standing, going to jump back a

1165
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: little bit, um because I didn't say anything about this

1166
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: organ State class. I'll talk a little bit about both

1167
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: of them. I I do want to talk about organ

1168
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: State just for a second, because I had three goals

1169
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: for this organ State class for them to progress on

1170
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: what they've already sort of started to build. One is

1171
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: they gotta beat other schools for some commits, and they

1172
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: did that. They they've got a few commits, uh this

1173
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: year that that other schools were in on, hot and heavy.

1174
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: It's not even a we didn't want him anyway situation.

1175
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: Um guys like six pound running back Isaiah Newell. Everybody

1176
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: in the pack twelve wanted that guy, you know. So

1177
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: they're they're doing some good things. One of the other

1178
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: things I wanted to see them do is get some

1179
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: instant impact players because that can be really really tough

1180
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: to get some freshmen that are going to come in

1181
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: and play right away, and or junior college guys. And uh,

1182
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: they actually got a former Arizona State commit in Alex Lemon,

1183
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: a junior college defensive end out of San Diego, California,

1184
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: who d committed from a s U after visiting Florida.

1185
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 1: So a SU fans figured, well he's a Gator, and no,

1186
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: he committed to Oregon State. Uh. And I wanted to

1187
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: see them developed some other aspects of their offense. Uh

1188
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: and they're I think they're gonna do that. They got

1189
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: a couple of really good tight end prospects to commit

1190
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: in Jake Overman from Anaheim, California sixty five and Tommy

1191
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: Spencer six to forty out of Roseville, California. So I

1192
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: really really like what Oregon State is doing. They're beating

1193
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: out other teams for some good recruits. They got some

1194
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 1: instant impact guys, and they even got two quarterbacks in

1195
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: this class to help challenge Chevya, you know, to see

1196
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: who's gonna take over for Jake Luton. So that's gonna

1197
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: be really cool. Jumping into Arizona State, this is a

1198
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: weird class because, um, they just dumped three of their

1199
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: offensive line commits uh in Aidan Finney, um and uh

1200
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: and and they had another one Frank Thompson who that

1201
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: one was kind of rough because he played in the

1202
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: state championship game at Sun Devil Stadium, then found out

1203
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: after the game that he's not part of the class

1204
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: and that will be the last game that he played

1205
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: at Sun Devil Stadium. So you know, you never really

1206
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: like to see that and that and that caused a

1207
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: little consternation out here. Um amongst local high school coaches.

1208
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: And then they also just said by to their six

1209
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: ft ten German offensive line recruit, who then turned around

1210
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: and said he's gonna sign with with um UCF because

1211
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: Arizona State told him, you know, you're probably gonna be

1212
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: a blue shirt if you come here. So the reason

1213
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 1: they're doing that, the reason they're dumping all these offensive

1214
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: line commits, is because they know that they need to

1215
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: protect Jayden Daniels with guys who can play right now.

1216
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: And I think they're going to hit the transfer market

1217
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: pretty hard and look for absolutely anyone and everyone who

1218
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: wants to grab transfer in, including some of those guys

1219
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: like Henry Hattis that are coming out of Stanford. So

1220
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: that's why you're seeing you're not going to see a

1221
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: very good offensive line class from Arizona State. Where they've

1222
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: put all their eggs in the basket is they've got

1223
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: a couple of cornerstone recruits. UM Jordan Banks is a

1224
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: future NFL player. He's at a Harvard City, California Narbonne linebacker.

1225
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: He's very special. He will He's an Antonio Pierce special.

1226
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: He will go out there and he will make an

1227
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: impact as a freshman UM, so he's really good. They

1228
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: got Joe Moore out of St. Louis, Missouri UM who

1229
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: could make an immediate impact. In Omar Norman Lott at

1230
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: of Sacramento, both on the defensive line that could make

1231
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: an immediate impact. But what they need to do is

1232
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: replace all of the carries that they're losing with you know,

1233
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: Benjamin going pro because he had of the carries this

1234
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: last year. Diamante tram Um out of Akron, Ohio who

1235
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: kind of waited around for Ohio State offer for a

1236
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: while and then decided to commit to a s U.

1237
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: He's probably a guy that's going to get more than

1238
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: a s U S carries next year. So they do

1239
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: have some good guys in the class as it stands.

1240
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: But what they want to do, George, to close this out,

1241
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: is they're trying to not only flip Johnny Wilson from Oregon,

1242
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: but they're trying to lock down two of California's best

1243
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 1: two rivals one players Gary Bryant and Levon Bunkly Shelton

1244
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: to go along with it. What do you think of that?

1245
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: That is unbelievable, dude, So you're gonna tell me that

1246
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: that they're gonna sign all four of those kids with

1247
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: you in your your county at Johnson Jr. Two amongst

1248
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: those four yes, yes, so so that bro. And then

1249
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: you have Bran Brandon. I you they're already there's he's gone,

1250
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: he's gone, He's he's headed to the draft. Oh I

1251
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: thought it. Oh wait, hold on, who Who's who's returning?

1252
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: The franky Frank Derby is It's gonna be the guy.

1253
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: And then they got a guy named Jordan Porter never

1254
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: mind and uh and Curly Yeah, but they get nobody

1255
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 1: with a lot of experience, so up and these these

1256
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: kids are like anybody else. They think they're going to

1257
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: come in and take over right away. But there's only

1258
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: one ball and that's a lot of wide receiver commits.

1259
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: If they pull this off, yeah, if they pull this off,

1260
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: they need Graham Harrow as their office of corp dator.

1261
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the only way you can pull this

1262
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 1: off and make everybody happy. Because USC found a way

1263
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: to get four guys a hundred yard game, and that's

1264
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: what you're gonna need every single game. You're gonna need

1265
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: four hundred yards passing and it to be distributed equally

1266
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: for people not to hop into transfer portal. This looks

1267
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: like five guys plus Frank Darby. Somebody's getting into transfer

1268
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 1: portal and ending up somewhere else, just like Divine Williams

1269
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: got out of USC because he's like, hold up, I

1270
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: don't you know I'm fourth on the depth chart right

1271
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: right now, and these three dudes don't come out of

1272
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: the game. There's no balls, and then we're trying to

1273
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: run the ball to dude, these dudes are be in

1274
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: a transfer reportal before you can blink. If that actually,

1275
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: if they're able to pull it off, but it would

1276
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: be a hell of a haul for um for herm

1277
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: epwords for Antonio appears, the rest of their staff. That

1278
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: would be a hell of a hall because that's gonna

1279
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: bump them up super high in the rankings. But they

1280
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: need to hit on some of their those officive alignment though,

1281
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: which is probably just as crucial as it is for

1282
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: the Whiteouts. Yeah, none of it's gonna matter if you

1283
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: can't protect Jane Daniels. Yeah yeah, because he threw seventeen

1284
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: touchdowns this year, but you need him to throw thirty seven.

1285
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: That's what you really need him to do to really

1286
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: open up some of these football games. Uh, Colorado mail

1287
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: Tucker's full first full cycle of a recruiting class. Yes,

1288
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: he signed his first class last year, but it wasn't

1289
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: like you didn't get the chance to recruit the entire

1290
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: year and all of this stuff. And Colorado is super

1291
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: birthin particularly on defense. They have a couple of good

1292
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 1: players Landman at linebacker, even though it's gonna be gone,

1293
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: like this is a good football that, Like, they have

1294
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 1: a couple of good pieces. But they're losing a ton

1295
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 1: on at wide receiver. They're losing Laviska Chinalt. They're losing

1296
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: uh inexplicably Katie Nixon. Yeah, and Tony Brown was the

1297
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: guy for them at times this year and they're losing

1298
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: him too. Yeah. They I mean, they literally lost all

1299
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,919
Speaker 1: three of their wide receivers and they're losing uh Stephen Montes,

1300
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: who we wrote an article about Unafraid Show. Uh, so

1301
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: you guys can go there see it about his whole career,

1302
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: like he's one of Colorado's all time leading quarterbacks but

1303
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: never even playing a bowl game. Find that very interesting,

1304
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: So we talked about where he fits in the whole

1305
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: pantheon of Colorado quarterbacks and all of that. But they

1306
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: need a ton of help roup. I mean, they are

1307
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:55,839
Speaker 1: a couple of recruiting classes away from from being really

1308
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: really competitive. But if it feels like they need to

1309
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: get infusion of some older guys, maybe some juco talents

1310
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 1: and transfers all of that stuff for Colorado to really

1311
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: be competitive and impact twelve. I love this class. I

1312
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: really do. I just from top to bottom, I absolutely

1313
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: love it. It's not the most talented class in the

1314
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: entire world, but when you just look at it as

1315
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: a whole, assuming they're able to keep some of these

1316
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: guys together and withstand other, you know, other people making

1317
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: overtures um as as we head into the early signing day,

1318
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: this we could be talking three years from now about

1319
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: how the class of turned it all around for University

1320
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 1: of Colorado, because I think melt Tucker understands some very

1321
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: fundamental things about the game of football, one of which

1322
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 1: is that nothing matters unless you can get to the quarterback.

1323
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: Nothing at all. If you can't pressure the other team's quarterback,

1324
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: you might as well give up. And if you look

1325
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: at this recruiting class, they've got a defensive tackle at

1326
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: Harvard City, California named Jordan Berry six three, three oh

1327
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,799
Speaker 1: five three star kid. They've got Guys Thomas, a defensive

1328
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: end out of Clarksdale, Mississippi. They've got Devin Grant, a

1329
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: defensive end at San Antonio, Texas, Alvin Williams, a defensive

1330
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: end out of Ellenwood, Georgia. Justin Jackson a defensive end

1331
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: at a Sanatobia, Mississippi. They're gonna go after the quarterback,

1332
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: and they got that big time transfer right from Alabama.

1333
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: They they understand this staff understands that they're gonna need

1334
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: to replenish that defensive line. Let the cream Rice to

1335
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: the top so they can go out and compete and

1336
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: give this offense a chance to win them some games.

1337
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: They've done a really good job, in my opinion, of

1338
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: replacing some of the receivers that they've lost. Brendan Rice

1339
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: might be thinking about taking Johnny Wilson's spot out at

1340
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: Oregon if Johnny Wilson flips to a s U, so

1341
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: you gotta keep an eye on that, But as of

1342
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: right now, he's still committed to Colorado. I think that

1343
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: you know he's uh, he's four star wide receiver. I

1344
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: still feel like he's underrated. He's very like throwback eighties

1345
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: type wide receiver. Huge, Bill loves to go up and

1346
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: get it, very unselfish. UM. Great football player, and then

1347
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: they probably have one of the most underrated UM would

1348
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: be signees of the entire class and a guy who

1349
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: should win the All Name Team Montana Limonious Craik out

1350
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: of Inglewood, California. He had offers from several Pack twelve

1351
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: teams that loved him. He chose to to to give

1352
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: his pledge to Colorado and I think he could be

1353
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: a big time wide receiver for them. Six pound kid

1354
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: come out of Englewood. They've also got a couple of

1355
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: tight ends because they've really struggle to use the tight

1356
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: end in recent years, and I think that they're going

1357
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: to try to turn that around as well. UM and

1358
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: some big offensive lineman as well. This class, from top

1359
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: to bottom is special. The one thing that is missing

1360
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 1: is they don't really have like a game changing quarterback.

1361
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: Brendan Lewis is okay out of Melissa, Texas. But I'm

1362
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: mean he's okay. He he reminds me a little bit

1363
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: of Tyler Hunting. Um. They need somebody who's gonna kind

1364
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: of transcend, and if he ends up being that guy,

1365
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,560
Speaker 1: then I'll eat my hat. Or whatever. Um, but I

1366
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: think I do think that they're one very special quarterback

1367
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: away from making this the class that really turns things

1368
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: and went around for them, And they might get Jason Harris,

1369
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: the four star Simeon Rice Clone, who probably should be

1370
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: going to you o ay because his brother plays there

1371
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: and his dad's in the Ringermanda there, but Arizona's got

1372
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 1: too many problems for the kid to to to consider

1373
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: going where his dad and brother play, So you know,

1374
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: Colorado might be able to capitalize on that as well. Dude,

1375
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,839
Speaker 1: I think that this signing day is gonna get crazy

1376
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be flipped. Like if Johnny Wilson bags

1377
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: out of Oregon, which you know, he's removed all signs

1378
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: of being a commit on social media, which I actually

1379
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: applaud him for, if he goes to as you, I

1380
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: applaud him kind of of how he's done it because

1381
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm just not gonna post anything, I'm not

1382
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it, I'm not gonna put up I'm

1383
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: decommitting all of this stuff. Like dude, I'm just gonna

1384
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 1: tell the coaches and I'm just gonna do it like

1385
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to you know, like I don't want

1386
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: to create a Twitter mob and a Twitter story. Just

1387
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: just get it over with. Just rip the mandate off.

1388
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: It will all be over. Um yeah I'm not and

1389
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: then but that's gonna cause like you were saying some

1390
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: other dominoes to maybe flip with Brendon Brendan Rice with Colorado,

1391
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: like you just never know what other wide receivers are, like, Oh,

1392
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: hold up, there there's an opening up there. I'll take it.

1393
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: Uh uh, next teame up. You got cal cal Their

1394
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: recruiting classes full right right now. They've done a really

1395
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: good job getting this class together. Their coaches said they

1396
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: believe that they're gonna hold it all together. Shouldn't have

1397
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:00,799
Speaker 1: any flips, but you never know. They have a quarterback

1398
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: they need in Chase Garbers. This is his team. Now.

1399
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: This team started out four and oh with him. He

1400
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 1: turned a corner, broke his collarbone. Team sucked. He came back.

1401
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: They finished seven and five. I thought they were gonna

1402
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 1: finish four and eight if he didn't come come back.

1403
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: But a miracle game from Monster and and Garbers coming

1404
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: back was the trick to do it. They have two

1405
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 1: of their defensive backs coming back, their starters from this year. UM,

1406
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 1: so they're they're gonna be good in the secondary again,

1407
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,839
Speaker 1: same coordinators. They do need to replace Pack twelve defensive

1408
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: player of the Year Evan Weaver, and they need to

1409
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: get a little better on the defensive line. But it

1410
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: just feels like that they are that cal is one

1411
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: or two recruiting classes away from being able to win

1412
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve North and one or two recruiting and

1413
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: well like from having one of those special years, because

1414
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a special year to knock off Washington

1415
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: and Oregon and win the Pack twelve North. But to

1416
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: think they're about two recruiting class away from that, and

1417
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: also two recruiting classes away from being able to land

1418
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: a significant amount of four star recruits. That's what I think.

1419
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: I loved their class of ten, so you know, I'm

1420
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: I want to give them credit for for what they

1421
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: were able to do there. I think that you'll see

1422
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: plenty of players step up from the from the twenty

1423
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: nineteen signing class um as we get into next year.

1424
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 1: But this class is good too. You know. There there

1425
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: are some guys that they wrestle away from other schools

1426
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: and that they got to commit early. UM. This recent

1427
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: edition of DeAndre Rodgers, the four star tight end out

1428
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: of some amish Washington that could be an instant impact guy.

1429
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: I mean, especially giving Chase Garber some some check down options,

1430
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 1: some some some options over the middle. Um. You know,

1431
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, most tight ends aren't ready to come

1432
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: out and block right away, um in the Pac twelve.

1433
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: But I definitely think it gives them some options in

1434
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: the passing game. So I really really like that Ricky Corea,

1435
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: the six three five pound Fresno, California defensive tackle, that

1436
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: was someone I know that as you loved. And if

1437
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: you pair him with Brett Johnson on the inside for

1438
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 1: Cow they could create some issues for other teams running games.

1439
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: One of Cal's biggest issues was not really having much

1440
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: of a running game this year. And you know they've

1441
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 1: got a running back commit who will see that he

1442
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: was he was supposed to be a really really big deal.

1443
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Chris Street. Um, he was supposed to

1444
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: be a really really big deal. And you know, as

1445
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: a junior, you thought he was gonna be a really

1446
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: special player. You got that four star designation from rivals.

1447
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: As a senior, they kind of changed up their offense

1448
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: a little bit his production dropped and then he ended

1449
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: up breaking his leg and so, um, you know it

1450
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: wasn't a serious injury or anything like that. But I

1451
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: when he committed to Cal before his senior year, I thought, Oh,

1452
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: this is a guy that's gonna come in make an

1453
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: impact right away. And now he's kind of more of

1454
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: a mystery to me. Um, they got to go up

1455
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: and get it. Receiver and Tommy Christacos out of Scott's

1456
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: tale Arizona, who I really like. They've got a Frank

1457
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: Darby clone who's I feel underrated by rivals in Aidan

1458
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: Lee six to two oh five all muscle can run

1459
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: a nine route, you know with with with the best

1460
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: of them, just kind of has to get some other

1461
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: stuff down with his game. Um, it's a solid class man.

1462
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 1: I I like it. Um. I don't see a ton

1463
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: of guys that are going to come out and shocked

1464
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: the world right away next year. Um, but I think

1465
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: they're building depth. They're going to be the team in

1466
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,799
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve North that sort of takes the Utah

1467
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: recipe of building depth, but do it does it with

1468
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: more talent in my opinion, and that that could work

1469
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 1: out really well for them. That would be. That would

1470
01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: be good because I want the conference to be as

1471
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:06,919
Speaker 1: competitive as possible and the better teams that you play. Then, granted,

1472
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 1: I do believe that the Pack twelve has at the

1473
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: most competitive conference from top to bottom when you look

1474
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: at the most other conferences. The teams at the at

1475
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: like the I'm not just talking about teams twelve and eleven,

1476
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: talking about ten, nine, eight, that when they play their

1477
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: best game, they can hang with the teams in the

1478
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: upper tier and and there, and if you look at

1479
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: the bottom of the SEC, it's awful. They all fired

1480
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 1: their coaches, all fired their coaches because they were terrible,

1481
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: and that's not what you see. And you're gonna have

1482
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: teams in the Pac twelve that are middling because everybody

1483
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 1: can't win. You can't have Jonathan Smith continue to improve

1484
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 1: it Oregon State while Mike Leach is still winning team games,

1485
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: while Kevin Sumlin is doing good, while Clay Helton is

1486
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: doing good, while uh Mario Cristo Ball and Jimmy Lake

1487
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: at Washington and and Justin Wilcox. They all can't be

1488
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: winning ten eleven games at a time. So this is

1489
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a dog eat dog world. And the recruiting

1490
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: is where it starts. The next thing we got up

1491
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 1: is uh the UKLA, the U c l A Bruins

1492
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: twenty commits. Chip Kelly almost has a full class. His

1493
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 1: recruiting is always a big mystery because it's like, what

1494
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: is his system? He's got a bunch of old guys

1495
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: on his staff, how like like he never has a

1496
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: top tier recruiting class, but his teams have won. So

1497
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: the question is can he duplicate that success that he

1498
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: had at Oregon at U c l A. That's the

1499
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 1: biggest question that people want to see. He's got a

1500
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: whole team full of freshmen and sophomores who started pretty

1501
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: much every position on his team, so there'll be some

1502
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: of them will be juniors that this year. Now he's

1503
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: got to get to a bowl game. Can any of

1504
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: these twenty commits come in and play immediately? You know,

1505
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: they say that his system is a mystery. Um, but

1506
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: when you look at the twenty total commitments that they

1507
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: have right now and the fact that eighteen of them

1508
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: are six one or taller and fourteen of them are

1509
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 1: six ft two or taller, is it that much of

1510
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: a mystery or is he just getting really tall dudes

1511
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: that he can develop over time, because I mean that

1512
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: that really seems to be to be the goal of

1513
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,560
Speaker 1: what they are doing here is to course correct against

1514
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 1: Jim Mora Juniors uh system of getting the best players

1515
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: in the country who somehow weren't aware that there was

1516
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 1: a beach a few miles away and spend all their time,

1517
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, playing in the sand instead of making sure

1518
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: that they're ready to play on the field. Signs the

1519
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 1: Tide recruiting classes, but have nothing there, nothing soft man,

1520
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: just soft, just Kobe Bryant, gift soft. That's all. That's

1521
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: all I can really say is that is you know,

1522
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: you need players, um, you need players that are going

1523
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: to um come in with almost that chip. Kelly's uh

1524
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: an army guy, right he served, Yeah, so you he

1525
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 1: needs guys that have that the mental makeup that they're

1526
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: going to go to the mat, you know, for for

1527
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 1: their program and for their head coach. But he needs

1528
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: them to have the like sec bodies. So this is

1529
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: his way of doing it, is of of getting a

1530
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: bunch of guys that he can sort of build up crap.

1531
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 1: Even the kicker they took in this class is six

1532
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: to like, you know, they're there, They're gonna put a

1533
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,719
Speaker 1: bigger team on the field, and they're gonna be able

1534
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: to run his system. Whatever that system, Maybe he's going

1535
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,839
Speaker 1: to be able to run that system with big, fast,

1536
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: aggressive players. Um. You know, some of these guys in

1537
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: this class are a risk. You know, Jeremiah Trojan coming

1538
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 1: off a shoulder injury, six four pound linebacker. Um, you know,

1539
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: we'll see if he can withstand the putt an extra

1540
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 1: weight on and playing at a high level. You know,

1541
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Bruno Fina has only two forty pounds on the offensive line,

1542
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, but he's got good jeans. His dad, John Fina,

1543
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: playing the NFL for a long time and is another

1544
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: one of those guys who played at University of Arizona

1545
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: and watched his son go elsewhere. Despite the fact that

1546
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: his son blocked on the same line that Kevin Sulle's son,

1547
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: Jackson someone was a tight end on. And that school

1548
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 1: is only four miles away from University of Arizona. They

1549
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 1: lost Bruno Fina to u c l A, So you know,

1550
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 1: it's just another example of what the because Arizona doing. Um.

1551
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't think that this is a

1552
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: super special class for U C L. A UM. But

1553
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: I think that it's going to add depth and it's

1554
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 1: going to help them scaffold. I just I honestly, I don't.

1555
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 1: I want to see people be patient. I want to

1556
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: see them give Chip Kelly the opportunity to be there

1557
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 1: for four or five years because I want to see

1558
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 1: what an entire Chip Kelly u c l A team

1559
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 1: looks like. I want to see at least three recruiting

1560
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 1: classes from Chip Kelly out on the field together, mixing together,

1561
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: built up and coached up um. But I don't know

1562
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: if if if Brewin fans are going to have the

1563
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 1: patients to let him do it. Oh, I've won agree

1564
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 1: one agree. I mean, and this is a team that

1565
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: must win and must win now, Like they don't have

1566
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 1: to win ten games, but they have to get seven

1567
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: on there. And that's going to require a couple of

1568
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: these guys big, because if they have a ton of

1569
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: freshman playing again, something's going way wrong, way way wrong.

1570
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: Because they played a ton of freshman in the last

1571
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: two years, freshman and sophomores, So those guys should be

1572
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: juniors and seniors. It is time for them to start producing.

1573
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 1: Otherwise you're just recruiting backwards. Because I'm not sure if

1574
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't believe that U. C. L a Is set

1575
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: at quarterback yet. Dorian Thompson Robinson is good and terrible.

1576
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's excellent, he makes phenomenal plays, and then sometimes

1577
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: he makes bone head plays. They need to get more consistency,

1578
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: either out of him or just at the position in general.

1579
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: They need a running back because Kelly's out of there.

1580
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: They need a more playmaking white receivers. Yeah, they have Coda,

1581
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 1: they have the the young kid number two, the kid

1582
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 1: who returned to punt against to Washington State. They have

1583
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: so they do have some good players. It's just a

1584
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 1: matter of getting those guys to play well. And obviously

1585
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: they need help on defense because their defense was just

1586
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,759
Speaker 1: not good this this this last year. I mean, there's

1587
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 1: no way to say it. There's no other way to

1588
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 1: say it. Their defense needed left a lot to be desired.

1589
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 1: Um the next team up, this team is gonna need

1590
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 1: a ton of help because Stanford just has twelve players

1591
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 1: who are in the transfer portal. And me and Ralph

1592
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 1: did a little research. Pretty much all of them, if

1593
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: not all of them, are seniors who are transferring. And

1594
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:54,679
Speaker 1: how Ralph can you explain to them. Why so many

1595
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 1: seniors from Stanford are transferring. I mean, no, not successfully,

1596
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 1: but I'll try really hard. Um, let me give you

1597
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: some background on this. So, a couple of guys that

1598
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 1: I covered there at the high school level out of

1599
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 1: the state of Arizona went to Stanford, and I tracked

1600
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: their progress over time. One was named a t Hall

1601
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: and one was named Casey Tucker, and they were both

1602
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, and they were both starting out there,

1603
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: and they both got hurt as seniors, Okay, and that's

1604
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,759
Speaker 1: when I noticed when I went into the Stanford roster

1605
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: that a lot of guys were listed as seniors even

1606
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: though they had years where they didn't get on the

1607
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 1: field at all. In fact, if you pull up a

1608
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 1: lot of the seniors on the Stanford roster, it says

1609
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 1: did not see action, which in any other circumstance at

1610
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: any other school would usually mean that you're designated a

1611
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 1: red shirt for that year. So if you come in

1612
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 1: as a freshman and you don't play, you come back

1613
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: the next year still as a freshman with four years

1614
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: to play four instead of five years to play for

1615
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 1: Stanford doesn't really red shirt people whether they play or

1616
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: not as freshman and so A T. Hall and Casey

1617
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 1: Tucker both miss what would have been their senior year

1618
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 1: with injuries. They're both granted an extra year of eligibility.

1619
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: Casey Tucker graduates from Stanford and moves on to play

1620
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 1: offensive landed Arizona State. A T. Hall sticks around and

1621
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 1: plays as a red shirt senior for Stanford. At the

1622
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: same time, another kid that I covered named Lane Beach.

1623
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: He was a senior but didn't play as a freshman,

1624
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 1: and they basically just said you're done by And that's

1625
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: when I started. No notice, Stanford works differently than everybody else.

1626
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 1: They don't red shirt unless they need you, then they

1627
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 1: retroactively red shirt you. So and so that's the question, George,

1628
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 1: when you and I went through their roster and found

1629
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 1: out that everybody in the transfer portal is already a senior,

1630
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,839
Speaker 1: how is that possible. You can't be in the transfer

1631
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 1: portal if you're already finished. And that's basically what Stanford

1632
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 1: this is conjecture at this point, might be telling these

1633
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: guys is like, hey, we don't have room for you

1634
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: if you come back, and we can retroactively read shirt.

1635
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 1: But but how is Henry hattis one of those guys,

1636
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, he must not have played

1637
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 1: as a freshman, But then they don't they don't say that.

1638
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no, no, no no no. I mean

1639
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: how don't they make is I mean, he's going to

1640
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 1: have fifties scholarship offers no doubt in my mind. Um,

1641
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: but I don't know, I honestly that. So are you

1642
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 1: insinuating that there's some type of an issue that would

1643
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: make a bunch of guys who have been on this

1644
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: team for four years all have a mass exodus or

1645
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: do you think it's the program telling them, hey, it's

1646
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: probably time you move on. It's got I think for

1647
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 1: probably the vast majority of them, it's the program telling

1648
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 1: them to move on, which makes no sense. I don't understand. Like,

1649
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: it's not like like Stanford can now go out and

1650
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 1: sign thirty seven kids in a class, right, that's gonna

1651
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: put them well under eighty five scholarship player. They must

1652
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,679
Speaker 1: exist under eighty five all the time because they don't

1653
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 1: red shirt. Now. Now, this is very true because if

1654
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 1: you look at their seventeen class, they only signed fourteen kids. Eighteen,

1655
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 1: they signed fifteen kids. Twenty uh nineteen, they signed twenty

1656
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: three kids, Like they haven't signed twenty five kids in

1657
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: a long time, and they just lost twelve. They're gonna

1658
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 1: be well under eighty five. Like how how do you

1659
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 1: exist like this? Like why would you not give let

1660
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: the kids stay or even red shirt them like traditionally

1661
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: just to have depth. It makes zero sense. And and

1662
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,719
Speaker 1: that could be why into the Stanford in this case,

1663
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 1: it is trying to be way too smart. Intellectual brutality

1664
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: is broken. They I listen. I like, David Shaw has

1665
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 1: been fine at Stanford, been way better than people could

1666
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: have imagined. Stanford has a problem. They may have to

1667
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: change their offense. Davis Mills is probably going to be

1668
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback next season, right, and you're just like, Okay,

1669
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: you couldn't run the ball this year. You couldn't run

1670
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 1: the ball to previous year. After your offensive line coach

1671
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 1: left two well, your your officer line coach and office

1672
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 1: coordinator left to be the head coach at Rice, which

1673
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 1: just craziness. Why he would leave to go to Rice

1674
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 1: because you can't win it Rice, It's impossible. Um dude,

1675
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: It just like they just haven't been the same. And

1676
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 1: now you know you're under scholarship, you already have a

1677
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 1: tough time getting kids in school. I'd have no idea

1678
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 1: how Stanford comes comes back from this. This feels like

1679
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:18,719
Speaker 1: a like a three, like a two three recruiting cycle

1680
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 1: fix and I don't know if this is it in

1681
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 1: this class row and yet it's pretty good class. It's honestly,

1682
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,799
Speaker 1: you know. They got one of the best offensive tackles

1683
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,599
Speaker 1: in the entire country, one of the only five stars

1684
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: in the entire country, and Miles Hinton out of North

1685
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: Across Georgia. He's gonna be in this class. They got

1686
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:43,919
Speaker 1: six fund wide receiver out of Newport Beach, Ethan Garber's

1687
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: favorite target, John Humphreys, who has over twenty touchdowns in

1688
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: almost two thousand years receiving this year, but he's ridiculous.

1689
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: They could possibly grow him into a tight end or not.

1690
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 1: It's up to them, because they got a really good

1691
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 1: tight end like they always do in Lucas unger at

1692
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 1: a Morristown, New Jersey, six ft four pounds. They got

1693
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:06,799
Speaker 1: to four star defensive backs in Brandon Jones and Aidan Hector,

1694
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 1: and then their offensive line recruiting outside of Milesinton's is

1695
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 1: still pretty good because Connor McLoughlin's a four star tackle

1696
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 1: out of Tampa, Florida. And then they got probably the

1697
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 1: best interior blocker in the entire country in Drake Metcalf

1698
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: at a St. John Bosco. And he's only six seventy

1699
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 1: but he's been handling whatever dudes come his way for

1700
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 1: his entire high school career. And that's just And now

1701
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:35,879
Speaker 1: nobody I named is under a four star. So there

1702
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,719
Speaker 1: they are. You can't call it reloading because they weren't

1703
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: exactly loaded this year, but they're loading. This might be

1704
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 1: it might be a class that really helps him out. Yeah,

1705
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 1: So so this is one of those rebuild classes. Yeah,

1706
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: it's possible. And the offensive line recruiting they did in

1707
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 1: this class, um might be why a lot of guys

1708
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 1: are early because so many freshmen played on last year's

1709
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 1: team that you they you like, have like three or

1710
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: four sophomores that start for them and then just coming

1711
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 1: in in this class, I mean, they've they've got some

1712
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 1: One are the most slept on guys is Levi Rodgers

1713
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 1: out of Washington, six five seventy pound tackle. You know,

1714
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 1: they got a bunch of guys that can play tackle,

1715
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 1: and so that this is it's gonna be a really,

1716
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 1: really good class, and it'll just be interesting to see

1717
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 1: how they shaped their offense around what they have there,

1718
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: because the one thing that this class is missing, George,

1719
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 1: is it does not have a dynamic, superstar running back,

1720
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 1: which is really sort of what has made them over

1721
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 1: the last few years. You know, they've had you know,

1722
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, Bryce Love, the big kid who should have

1723
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 1: won the Toby Gerhardt. They have really good back yeah, um,

1724
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 1: and there's not one of those in this class. Onto

1725
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,040
Speaker 1: the next class, the number two rated class in a

1726
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 1: back twelve right now you got or again twenty two

1727
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: commits one five star, seven four stars and then the

1728
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 1: rest three stars. Um, they are potentially well they obviously

1729
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: they're not set at quarterback only because Tyler Shug has

1730
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 1: not played very much so they need to see him. Um.

1731
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 1: I still think they need a dynamic running back at

1732
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 1: a special running back because none of the guys who

1733
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: played this last year. I know that c. J. Verdell

1734
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: had a big game in the PAC twelve Championship. He's

1735
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,679
Speaker 1: gotten a lot better and he is a really good back,

1736
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:45,719
Speaker 1: but I don't see him as special. And by special,

1737
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean like a guy who if you if if

1738
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 1: you forget to block a guy or two in the backfield.

1739
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: He's making them miss and then turning like a guy

1740
01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 1: who turns three yard losses into a four yard games.

1741
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's the difference between a special back.

1742
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: It's not always the that that you hit so many

1743
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 1: home runs. It's just that you make people miss and

1744
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 1: you make you know, a one yard game into a

1745
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 1: five yard game, and not just by running over people.

1746
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 1: You just you know, you use your vision, make people miss,

1747
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: our patient, all of those things. Um and I think

1748
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 1: that they need, Like Oregon is not trying like I

1749
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 1: think they're in a different position than some of the

1750
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,600
Speaker 1: other Pack twelve teams. They're not trying to compete for

1751
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve championship. They're trying to compete for a

1752
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 1: national championship. So I think they need uh difference makers

1753
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 1: at wide receiver position and not just good players like

1754
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:50,640
Speaker 1: special wide receivers, a special back, get set at quarterback,

1755
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: and also on defense, just just turn that defense into

1756
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 1: a whole army of of of top tier NFL talent,

1757
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: like potential NFL talent. That's what they're trying to do.

1758
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: And with this class, I think they're doing a good job,

1759
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: would you agree, Ralph, Yeah, I think the nice thing

1760
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 1: about this class is it's a really really good class,

1761
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 1: but also the pressure is off of it a little

1762
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 1: bit because of how good last year's class was, you know,

1763
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 1: in the number seven ranked class in the country according

1764
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,679
Speaker 1: to Rivals, and you know guys like Sean Dollars who

1765
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,719
Speaker 1: could very possibly step up and do some special things.

1766
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,879
Speaker 1: UM at the running back position. You know, really dynamic

1767
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,879
Speaker 1: players if you need them to. Cavon Thibodeau was obviously

1768
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 1: part of that class as well. UM. This was a

1769
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 1: good class before they got Noah Seul, who, to me UM,

1770
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 1: in any other year, any other year, would be the

1771
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:51,600
Speaker 1: number one linebacker hands down in the entire country. But

1772
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 1: they're also in the hunt for Justin Flow, who is

1773
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: the number one linebacker in the country UM and is

1774
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 1: very much sort of the reincarnation of Vontes Perfect, only

1775
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 1: with a better, better head on his shoulders. UM. And

1776
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: so I mean, if if the possibility exists that Seoul

1777
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 1: and Flow could come in together in the same recruiting class. UM.

1778
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 1: Even though a lot of this class, there are a

1779
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 1: lot of developmental guys in this class, and there's still

1780
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:21,600
Speaker 1: a couple that might actually fall off UM that we

1781
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 1: had talked about. But even though there's some developmental guys

1782
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 1: in this class, I think he'll be shielded by the

1783
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 1: fact that UM nineteen was so good and the top

1784
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 1: end of will be as good as anyone in the

1785
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 1: country outside of maybe Clemson and Georgia. If you can

1786
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 1: land both school and Flow seel on his own as

1787
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:45,680
Speaker 1: a program changing linebacker, he's an incredible UH player. He's

1788
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:49,759
Speaker 1: not as transcendent as his brother is of an offensive lineman,

1789
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:53,640
Speaker 1: but he's close and close is pretty darn good. UM.

1790
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 1: You know, I think that Jay Butterfield's a good quarterback.

1791
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll come in and supplant anybody right away.

1792
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,799
Speaker 1: I think Jackson LaDuke at a Sparks, Nevada is somebody

1793
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 1: who I'm really interested to see if he lives up

1794
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 1: to the hype UM or not. Uh. And yeah, I

1795
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 1: mean it's an interesting class and that it takes care

1796
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: of a lot of needs UM, but it's not overly flashy,

1797
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 1: So I like the class. Uh. And really, depending on

1798
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,759
Speaker 1: what happens with Justin Flow, I might end up loving

1799
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 1: this class. That's an interesting thing because if they pick

1800
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 1: up Justin Flow, because I saw the kid play in

1801
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 1: in high school. I think this kid is is um

1802
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 1: oh man, what was the kid's name down at Georgia

1803
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 1: who committed to U C l A originally and then

1804
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:48,760
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator left to go to Atlanta and then

1805
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 1: he went to Georgia. You play for the Bears? Now? Um? Ah,

1806
01:45:55,560 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 1: Ralph the linebacker? What classes? The classes? He was? He

1807
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 1: was the linebacker for Georgia when Georgia played Oklahoma in

1808
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 1: the Rolls Bowl. Um, the kid is sideline to sideline? Um? Right,

1809
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 1: oh man? Okay, So while while you look that up,

1810
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:30,560
Speaker 1: I'll just finish talking about this. This a class um

1811
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 1: obviously the big key, one of the big keys to

1812
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 1: this classes. Also who who may flip because they got

1813
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 1: a D commitment from a kid from Florida, the Avante Williams. Um,

1814
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Johnny Wilson? And I also heard

1815
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: some news about Miles Slusher that Miles Slusher, the kid

1816
01:46:53,280 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma will afourced our kids maybe going to Arkansas. Yes, yes,

1817
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:06,480
Speaker 1: I said Arkansas, which is bizarre in and of itself.

1818
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 1: Are you talking about were you talking about Roquan Smith earlier? Yes? Yeah,

1819
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 1: if that's if Roquan Smith had thirty pounds and four

1820
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 1: more inches on him. Yeah, yes, exactly, you're giving that

1821
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,759
Speaker 1: he would do you understand the two years of Cabon

1822
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 1: Thibodeaux and Noah Seul and Justin Flow on the same

1823
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 1: defense together and you got a bunch of other good

1824
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 1: players together. But it wouldn't just those three and then

1825
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of stick figures. It wouldn't matter. That's how

1826
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 1: good those three football players are. I mean, and that's

1827
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 1: a that's a conference championship at least just having most

1828
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:51,679
Speaker 1: and what and what if they get Ringo too? Men?

1829
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 1: Oh man, if they get Kiley Ringo along, I don't know.

1830
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 1: We we just we we might just focus known Oregon

1831
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 1: for a couple of years now that we got the

1832
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 1: criticism of a couple of people says that that's what

1833
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: we do. But um, it'll be hard not to if

1834
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 1: they if they bring in, you know, three five star

1835
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 1: players in one class a year after getting a five

1836
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:15,560
Speaker 1: star defensive end who won Packed twelve Fresh One of

1837
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 1: the Year. Ye, the last class is gonna be Emmy.

1838
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: Is this Jimmy Lake's first class or is this Chris

1839
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:29,679
Speaker 1: Peterson's last class? At every class has been a Jimmy

1840
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 1: Lake class. That's and that's why Chris Peterson is no

1841
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: longer the head coach of Washington in my opinion is that,

1842
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, because because because he was having these feelings

1843
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:47,760
Speaker 1: that he he potentially was, you know, not giving it

1844
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: his all and he's thinking about moving on. It makes

1845
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 1: it that much easier to have those thoughts when you

1846
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 1: know that you're gonna be leaving the program in the

1847
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 1: hands of the person who helped you construct every recruiting

1848
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:02,759
Speaker 1: class that you've put together. I mean, he's the reason

1849
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 1: that they've put all these defensive backs in the NFL

1850
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 1: that they came through Washington first. He's the one who

1851
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 1: got a lot of these guys there. Okay, that that

1852
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:15,639
Speaker 1: makes sense. And the cool part is that even though

1853
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson announced his resignation, they've been able to not

1854
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 1: only hold this class together, it seems like that the

1855
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 1: kids have really, you know, made a point to say,

1856
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 1: you know what, we're staying at Washington. We're happy, we

1857
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 1: love Jimmy Lake any anyway, We're good. So their class

1858
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 1: is gonna stay together, you know they obviously, um I

1859
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 1: saw two of the kids play. I saw the two

1860
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:50,759
Speaker 1: kids from the two corners that they recruited from Lawn Lawndale,

1861
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 1: one of them the safety, one of them a corner

1862
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 1: mckill Eastein and Elijah Jackson. These kids are big like

1863
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 1: they are when when they're listed at six two and

1864
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 1: six one, that's what they legitimately are. These are big,

1865
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 1: long range e nambi awesome way in high school looking

1866
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:14,640
Speaker 1: kids like these are. Oh no, I'm serious, dude. I

1867
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 1: was impressed. These kids look good like they look good

1868
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 1: in their in their in their uniforms, and they played hard.

1869
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 1: They you know. There, there's not a lot to say.

1870
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 1: Washington does a phenomenal job of identifying talent, particularly on

1871
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. They know what they're

1872
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 1: looking for and they get it, which is even more impressive.

1873
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 1: I think the coolest thing they did this year is

1874
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:46,559
Speaker 1: this is probably one of the State of Washington's best

1875
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 1: every years as far as the talent that it's produced.

1876
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 1: And outside of not landing g Scott the wide receiver, um,

1877
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 1: they got everybody else right, I mean, they they landed

1878
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:10,639
Speaker 1: some serios. Got the most important person was Savelle Smalls. Yeah,

1879
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, and and they also have um Sam Adams

1880
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 1: the six pound running back son of Sam Adams, a

1881
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 1: six ft four pound defensive tackle. They got Sam Adams Jr.

1882
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 1: As as as part of this class as well. Um,

1883
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 1: you know Carson Brunner, a three star a linebacker out

1884
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 1: of Redmond, UM Sawyer Rack and Elli uh pound wide

1885
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:37,600
Speaker 1: receiver at a Brush Prairie. Like they went hard in

1886
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 1: Washington's year, Jerry and Hatchett, um four star offensive lineman

1887
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 1: at a Ferndale. Uh. They just they just got every

1888
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 1: good player, almost every good player in the state of Washington,

1889
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 1: including number twelve in the nation week side defense events

1890
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 1: of l Smalls. And so you know this defense is

1891
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 1: going to continue to be really really good talent wise. Um.

1892
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,680
Speaker 1: You know you're you're talking about those two corners that

1893
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 1: you saw, and those two corners are probably the two

1894
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 1: lowest rated guys in this entire class for Washington. Yeah,

1895
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 1: at least you know, at least a cordon arrivals. And

1896
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 1: so they got another good tight end, Mark Redmond out

1897
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 1: of Newport Beach, California six pounds. So they're just restocking

1898
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 1: on that end. And then the cornerstone of this class,

1899
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:26,599
Speaker 1: Stewart is Ethan Garber's did not follow his brother Chase

1900
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 1: to Cal he chose to go to Washington instead, and

1901
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna keep his commitment even though they made

1902
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 1: the change at at head coach, because I know that

1903
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 1: a couple of schools came kicking the tires, including Arizona State.

1904
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 1: Ethan Garbers through for like sixty five touchdowns and only

1905
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 1: five interceptions this year or some nonsense. He is he

1906
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 1: is different and h he could be the playmaker that

1907
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 1: really puts Washington over the time. But they still got

1908
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 1: big arm J C. Jacob Jacob Eaton at least for

1909
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 1: right now. M And you so you now you don't

1910
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 1: think he'll go pronounce? I think it depends on what

1911
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 1: happens on Saturday, what what happens in their bowl game

1912
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 1: against UH Boise State. If he doesn't have a spectacular game,

1913
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, If you're not going to be

1914
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick as a quarterback and you

1915
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:27,799
Speaker 1: have that kind of hype, you need to stay in school.

1916
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: If if you like, if you're for sure going to

1917
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 1: be a first round draft draft pick, then you know,

1918
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:37,720
Speaker 1: then I can't begrudge anybody getting their money, even if

1919
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 1: they're not necessarily ready. It's hard to pass up you know,

1920
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars. Yeah, and so that they

1921
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,599
Speaker 1: got one of Kili Ringo's teammates on this team. It's

1922
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 1: amazing that they didn't get a shot at Kiley Ringo

1923
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:53,600
Speaker 1: considering he's from Washington originally. But take make sure you

1924
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 1: remember the name Jacobe Covington's. Um he's bigger, he's stronger,

1925
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 1: and he's a out as fast as Keiley Ringo. He

1926
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 1: plays at safety and he has yet to really tap

1927
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 1: into what he's capable of doing. And if Jimmy Lake

1928
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 1: works his magic with Jacoby Covington, you could be talking

1929
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 1: about just another in a long line of first round

1930
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 1: defensive back. I was watching Taylor Raft play play today

1931
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 1: and I was just like, dude is good. He's a

1932
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 1: baller too. Um So, at the end of the day, Ralph,

1933
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 1: with these recruiting classes, where do you think that they

1934
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:31,799
Speaker 1: will finish? Like, where do you think the PAC twelve?

1935
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 1: What order do you think the PAC twelve ultimately will finish?

1936
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 1: From one to twelve? Okay? So I mean I think

1937
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 1: that it really depends on Justin Flow, on whether or

1938
01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 1: not Oregon jumps Washington. If Justin Flow goes to Clemson

1939
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 1: or Miami. Um, and I know that there's a couple

1940
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 1: of delusional USC fans out there that thin that there's

1941
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 1: still that possibility. But he was he was in a

1942
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 1: picture with Carol Folt today doing to fight on symbol

1943
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 1: Ralph Well, I don't know. According to his handler, it's

1944
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: been down to three for quite some time, so that

1945
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 1: would be quite the coup. Um. Oh yeah, Uh, it

1946
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 1: would be very interesting to me if all of a sudden,

1947
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, I would be equally surprised as if he

1948
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 1: committed the University of Arizona, you know, so. Um, But

1949
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 1: I do think you're gonna see. I think this is

1950
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 1: a really special Stanford class and they're they're gonna hold

1951
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 1: down the number three spot. It depends on what Justin

1952
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 1: Flow does of you know, whether or not um Oregon

1953
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 1: as number one or number two. If they don't get him,

1954
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 1: I think they'll be second. I think that Arizona State

1955
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 1: was going to finish strong with a bunch of wide

1956
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: receivers and uh, and that will put them at the

1957
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 1: number the number four spot. Um, gosh, I think I

1958
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: like I think I like CAL to hold tight. Maybe no,

1959
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 1: I think USC will jump CAL. I think the USC

1960
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 1: is going to kind of hold hold fast at number five.

1961
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 1: I think that they'll get maybe a couple of four

1962
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 1: stars and fill out their class um and and they'll

1963
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 1: be in the top half. Um. You know, I think

1964
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 1: from there it's really interesting because you could kind of

1965
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:31,040
Speaker 1: flip a coin, you know, I think that U. C.

1966
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 1: L A has a strong class and Cal has a

1967
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 1: strong class, and so you know, you can maybe flip

1968
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 1: a coin for where they finish as far as the

1969
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 1: six and seventh spot, and then you're talking about from

1970
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 1: eight on down, and that's where you know, eight through

1971
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 1: eleven could really be interchangeable. I even if we have

1972
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 1: Colorado at eight, I've told you how much I love

1973
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 1: that class, maybe more so as far as just the

1974
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 1: overall impact versus other recent classes than anyone else. You know,

1975
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 1: I really love Colorado, but I think that they could

1976
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 1: finish in the rankings near near eight, you know, and

1977
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,680
Speaker 1: then you know, from that point you've got you've got

1978
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 1: Oregon State another class that I really like, UM and

1979
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: Washington State a class that's kind of okay. Um, you

1980
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 1: know that the you'll have a few teams in the

1981
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 1: mix there from eight to eleven. But I think the

1982
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 1: really interesting thing is They're just gonna be a Grand

1983
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:30,960
Speaker 1: Canyon size gap I think between whoever finishes eleventh and twelve. Um.

1984
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 1: You know, you could have Utah finish as low as

1985
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,839
Speaker 1: eleven and as high as eight or even seven possibly,

1986
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 1: but the gap between eleven and twelve with University of

1987
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: Arizona I think being at the bottom. I mean, this

1988
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 1: is just this is just gonna be a really bad

1989
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 1: class for University of Arizona. And the entire point that

1990
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 1: they brought you know, Kevin, Kevin, someone in was to

1991
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 1: jump start their recruiting, um, beyond what rich Rod was

1992
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 1: able to do, because I definitely don't think it was

1993
01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 1: to coach better than rich Rod. So um, you know

1994
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 1: that that that's that's gonna be super regretible, UM for

1995
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 1: for you of A to have gone to all this

1996
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:10,400
Speaker 1: trouble to bring in the coach who consistently brought in

1997
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 1: top ten in the country classes of Texas A and M.

1998
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 1: You know, what does it say about Tucson if you

1999
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 1: can't even get them away from last place in the

2000
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: PAC twelve? Yeah? Bro, that I mean I feel like,

2001
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it can't be an indictment on Tucson because

2002
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 1: rich Rod was able to recruit better than that there,

2003
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 1: so you can't be in indicting Tuson. I mean Bob,

2004
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean Bob, Bob to Leo who that ul um

2005
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 1: that who? All the Arizona coaches before that have been

2006
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 1: able to recruit better than last in the Pac twelve. Um,

2007
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 1: but you guys, recruiting day is coming up super super fast,

2008
01:58:57,320 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 1: super super quickly. UM. Hopefully you guys enjoyed this episode.

2009
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 1: We will have a episode, so we won't have our

2010
01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:10,400
Speaker 1: normal episode on Thursday, but we will see you guys

2011
01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 1: a week from today. Talk about all the recruiting Bowl games,

2012
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. UM, real quick, Ralph, who do

2013
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 1: you have in the game? Washington or boise State? I like?

2014
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 1: I like Washington. I think it's the change for Boisey

2015
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 1: State of losing their offensive coordinator right before the game

2016
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 1: and the fact that and the fact that you know

2017
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 1: it's I think that you know that they'll be energized

2018
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:43,160
Speaker 1: to play for for Jimmy Lake, I think, Um, and

2019
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 1: I still you know I'm gonna die on the Jacobison Hill.

2020
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 1: I think that if if if he's gonna go out,

2021
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna go out strong. All right, Well,

2022
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:58,879
Speaker 1: you Like we said in the beginning of this season,

2023
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 1: you get Jacob, you get Jacob Eason and you can

2024
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:05,640
Speaker 1: have him, buddy. You get Jacob Easton and you get

2025
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:07,960
Speaker 1: Khalil take How does that? How does that look right

2026
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 1: now for you? Buddy? Hey, I'll only know is that

2027
02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:15,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen one tonight. So that's all I gotta say.

2028
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 1: Who Yeah, Okay, I like bad I like bad quarterbacks.

2029
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:24,320
Speaker 1: What do you want? All right? Appreciate you so I

2030
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 1: appreciate your energy. Peace out, Catch you guys later.