1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles with James McDonald, Regie 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Reck Jr. And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: material witness on an aggregated Battery, I was a hang 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: gun and um they believe this might be in retaliation 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: to her testimony. Welcome to another edition of The Gangster Chronicles. 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: And this is episode thirteen, and my name is Alex Alonso. 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: You may be aware of my platform, Street Gangs dot 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Com a k a. Street TV, where I interview O G. S. 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Farmer and current gang members, hip hop artists, authors and 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: other influencers. And I'm here with Big and Big Jay 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: James McDonald and this is episode thirteen. And if you're 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: new to the podcast, please go back and start with 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: episode number one because must of our episodes are related 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: to each other and you won't start hearing me until 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: episode three. And if you're listening to this episode of 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles on iTunes, please leave us a rating 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: and a review so that we can continue bringing you 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: this amazing content. You can rate us from one to 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: five five stars if you love the show and if 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: you want to continue to hear it, and also when 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: you write a review. You can include questions, show ideas, 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: and topics that you want to hear on future episodes. 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start this episode with some fact checking 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: from last week, and uh, we actually have a special guest. 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: But before we get to our special guests, let's go 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: through these quick fact checks from last week. Reggie, you 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: mentioned a guy that was on death row for some 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: murders related to the Chino Hills case. His name was 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Cooper, murder of four people, and now they're saying 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: he might be innocent. Well, the governor was trying to 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: um have a reinvestigation of the case, so they're checking 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: his DNA. I guess right now. And according to Kevin Cooper, 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: what do you think he says he didn't do He 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: didn't do it. He says he was framed, Okay. And 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: then the rapist that you were talking about again last week, 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: Reggie was a guy named Wayne Jerome Robertson a K 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: the booty banded up at Corkrane Dick Smiley from the 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: he's really eluders. He probably even east side. Uh, he's 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: so old, so they probably was east side. He was 40 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: when he went to pen Gentian. When he went to 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: the pen and okay, so he's an O G O 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: G the seventies. Okay, well, I found an article from 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: that says that the guards were actually using him at 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Corkran State Prison to rape and beat other inmates. They 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: were betting on him. They stay used him, but they 46 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: were betting. They were putting him in there like uh, 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: some gladiatorship going on, like that movie Animals. So apparently 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: there was a huge investigation in the late nineties early 49 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: two thousand's about this. Dude, Wayne, and I had never 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: even heard that story before. That's crazy, all right. The 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: next thing was, you said, James that Corkland was opened 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: in eighties seven. Last week said eighty nine to corporate seven. Well, 53 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: it stays here that it was built on an old 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: Native American reservation and opened in eighty eight. I protight 55 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: from corporate from Okay, well, maybe Wikipedia sometimes incorrect. I okay. Uh. 56 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: And today, as of today O. J. Simpson hit eight 57 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: hundred and two thousand followers on his Twitter page. No, 58 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna hit a million probably. Uh. I've 59 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: given about a month he'll be at a million. That's 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: just a hundred nine thousand more people. And then, um, 61 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: we talked about Carl Douglas last week. In that monumental 62 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: car case, I said, Pento, we talked about it being 63 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: the pencil is actually a seventy nine Chevy Malibu where 64 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: the family of four children and two women were burned 65 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: when the gas tank exploded back in four point nine billion. 66 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: In Yeah, for damages. I went to the two women 67 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: and four kids. They followed appeal, and I'm sure they 68 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: probably settled all on appeal. Yeah. What I didn't check 69 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: is how much money the family ultimately got. But you 70 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: know Karl Douglas gets whatever that money is or his firm, 71 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: well that and you know all the expenses that the 72 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: attorney there's like that. That's where they get you at all. Right, 73 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: So that takes us to our special guests. Man, this 74 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: is a brother that I've known for many, many years. 75 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: He's actually connected to one of the biggest drug trafficking 76 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: cases in American history. He's from Compton, and I'm talking 77 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: about my brother, Chico Brown. We got Chico Brown in 78 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: the studio today. Man, what's up, Chico? What's going on? 79 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: And I didn't really finish uh describing Chico. I met 80 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: Chico when he was doing sort of what I would 81 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: say community activists work and uh gang intervention and prevention 82 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: work back in the early two thousand's. But you're also 83 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: CEO of agg and Entertainment. Let's start off talking about 84 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: what that's all about. Egg Entertainment is a production company. Um, 85 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: then a few films, uh documentaries. I'm working on a 86 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: few films now with master p Jamie Fox and some 87 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: more people. Um. Started off with Penny Marshall who helped 88 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: me start the company, and that was her way of 89 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: giving back to me, to being back to the neighborhood. 90 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Yeah, and Pete Marshall was a good, 91 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: good lady. Now a lot of people don't know who 92 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: Penny Marshall is. Uh. For all the youngsters out there 93 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: that I never heard of, Penny mercall Lavernon Shirley. Their 94 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: family also produced what was the other show that they 95 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: produced that came on before Lavernay? Happy Days used to 96 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: come on at eight o'clock on Tuesdays and was Lavernon Shirley. Okay, 97 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: I thought they wasn't spending off from r What years 98 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: are we talking about? Like late seven, Marty. Pretty much 99 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: like half the shows that was on network television in 100 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: them days was like martial productions. I like what she 101 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: loved basketball players, but I like that she really liked 102 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: black people most down people. That person I've ever met 103 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: in my life for real, Like she treated me like 104 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: her son. And unfortunately she she passed last year. This year, 105 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: this year, last year, the Simar seventeen, and um, I 106 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: was a little I got a little emotional to see 107 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: her because it's like all the people that I grew 108 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: up with, they're slowly dying on us. How it was 109 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: Kenny was, I think she was up for a while. 110 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: He was here both okay, Yeah, But one of the 111 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: things I wanted to uh talk to you about, Chico, 112 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: is you actually was part of freeway Ricky Ross's indictment 113 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: back in was the nineties six or four. And uh, 114 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: although everyone talks about Freeway Ricky Ross as the one 115 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: getting caught you was you was just co defending in 116 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: that case. Can you talk about how you met him, 117 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: how you guys ended up hustling together, and how that 118 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: whole case came smashing down on your your life. We've 119 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: been doing each other, but this particular time, we uh 120 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: was opening the youth center over there in South Central 121 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: and Cuenshaw, So Rick had just came home and he 122 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: had needed some money, and so I ended up giving 123 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: him some money to help him with the youth center. 124 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: So we building a youth center. Then months months went 125 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: by and his connection from years ago, UH came to 126 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: us and asked Rick did he want to help him 127 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: get rid of you know, start start this business back. 128 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: Rick was like, you know, Rick really didn't want to 129 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: do it, and I didn't want to do it. I 130 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: just came home. I just be the case. Yeah, you 131 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: just came home on another case that we'll probably talk about. 132 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: But was it true that Freeway Rick was sort of 133 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: out of the game at that time. He wanted to 134 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: kind of like retire. He was out of the game. 135 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: He he was out, both of us out of the game. 136 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: But we actually was really doing the youth center on 137 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: Cuenshaw Old Building and he had had when he caught 138 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: the first time you're talking about right on Adams. It 139 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: looked like an old theater that building. So we actually 140 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: was doing uh, we was doing the studio and there 141 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: we're just gonna call it Apolo West. And so that 142 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: led on to me investing my money in it, and 143 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: then we needed some more money. And so when the 144 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: guy Bland don't came. You know, it's all I set up. 145 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: When he dude Bland don't came, he was like, you know. 146 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: He called Rick and said, you know, I need this. 147 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: And Rick was like, you know, I'm I'm out the business. 148 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't have no more money. And that led to 149 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: me giving the money. So that's how I got invoked 150 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: because it was my money. So at that time, Rick 151 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: didn't have any money. No, Rick came home, he didn't 152 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: have no money. I actually helped him. I gave him 153 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: somebody loaned him some money. So he was coming home 154 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: from another case. It just got out on the case 155 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: that he got caught up with the this case, you know, 156 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: and he had I think he did like seven years 157 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: or something. So he came home on that. And then 158 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: we're doing a studio and then Black Done called and 159 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: and led to old Let's go to prison. And now, 160 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: for those who don't know, you're talking about Danilo blond 161 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: dog Oscar Oscar Denilo Blondo from from Nicaragua. Yeah, yeah, 162 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: and I guess he was the connector that really put 163 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Rick on the map. Yeah, he was connect So at 164 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: that time, is it fair to say that Danilo Oscar 165 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: Denilo blond Don was actually working with the federal government 166 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: at the time and in order to to entrap y'all. Yeah, 167 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: that's exactly, but we didn't know that, you know, the 168 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: CIA and all that stuff was involved. We were just 169 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: really trying to make some money. But Rick didn't really 170 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: didn't want to do nothing with it. And I was 171 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: just out of the game. And it was just like 172 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: he was like a father figure to Rick, and so 173 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: he like convinced Rick, like he kept saying, you know, 174 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: just this one time, I owe somebody some money, can 175 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: you get it. Then the whole thing was like, you 176 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: don't have a hundred in Nicodaga, but I can bring 177 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: him to you. You know, I got a hundred up 178 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: and so he convinced. It took months. It took like 179 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: six months or eight months to convinced me to go 180 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: down there and do and do the deal to go 181 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: down where with to Mexico? Is that right? Yeah? I 182 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: didn't know that. Yeah, that's what we got busted at 183 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: the border. Yeah, y'all was pretty much like some American mina. 184 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: That's what That's how it went. So, but they he 185 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: was blad done all the time. When he was calling us, 186 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: he was in prison, he was in he was in 187 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: uh Metropolitan in San Diego. But they were so bad 188 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: at Rick on this other case. So it was the 189 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: whole thing, we'll let you out if you help us 190 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: get ricked. And what people don't know, they really wanted 191 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: them to be because of the IRA Contra investigation and 192 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: all that were Oliver North that suf and Maxine water 193 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: is going down there and helping him before all this 194 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: even happened, Like we really didn't know that the conscious 195 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: and stuff until it went down. Like so things like 196 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: say six months for us for me to really go down, 197 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: and that went down to a couple of times, but 198 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't really feeling it, like and then the last 199 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: time when I went we did the deal. So you 200 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: met like some of Blondons people, just one, just one 201 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: of them. He was a FA he was an agent 202 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: acting like he was the man. So something like some 203 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: Mexican looking dude that was working with the fads. And 204 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: at that time you didn't know Blondon was in custody. No, 205 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: we didn't. They let him out for this reason. The busses. Wow, 206 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: that's so deep, man um. So what what type of 207 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: sentence did they give you guys. Ultimately, I know they 208 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: gave life and I had eight and a half years. 209 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: And did you get out early? No? I didn't get 210 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: out early. I did. I mean I got I did 211 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: a drug program. So at what point something that? So, 212 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: at what point did you realize this was a whole 213 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: set up? How long did it take to figure that 214 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: out when it first went down? I didn't know. I 215 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: thought at first I thought was Rick setting me about it? 216 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: Because I really really didn't know because I I went down. 217 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: So we you know, we had to say at Denny's restaurant. 218 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: We met them at a Danny's restaurant and black Dog 219 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: walked in and the other guy, special agent Phillips, I 220 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: know his name, man, but they walked in and then 221 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: like you know, I asked me for the money, like 222 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: you got the money? And I was I'm telling Rick, like, man, 223 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: something's weird, Like I'm like where to work at? You 224 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: know that's me talking about asking what the work? And 225 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: they're like, no, we got it. And I'm gonna called 226 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: Rick to the side of like, man, something right, Man, 227 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: it's like a set up, like not a setup that 228 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: there was a police to set up like this when 229 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: steal my money because I was buying a hundred h 230 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: kilog So I was like, man, I don't know, I 231 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: ain't give him the money. So I didn't give him 232 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: the money. And they're like, I just following me, following 233 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: me to this more and some more around the corner. 234 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: But it was all set up, you know, the cards 235 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: and there everybody in there was the fence. So when 236 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: we went around the corner, so they asked for the 237 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: money again, I said, Rick, go check the car and 238 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: see the ship. Didn't see if it's in there. So 239 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: Rick rolled, he checked it, he gave me it. Okay, 240 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: it was in there. We had a drive. We had 241 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: another dude with us that was driving it, and so 242 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: he jumped in the car. So when he jumped in 243 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: the car was a kill switch already in the car, 244 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: so it never started. But it was a hundred keyloads 245 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: in there. So soon as he went to the car, 246 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: I saw the jackets like da, they put in the 247 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: DA jackets on. By this time, I'm taking off. We're 248 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: in two separate cars. Ricks in the in the in 249 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: the opposite car, and I'm in my own car. So 250 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: when I take off, they followed him. So I'm about to, 251 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, drive to the mall or some ship rick 252 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: drive down the embankment of the freeway hit a tree, 253 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: so by this time we you know, it goes down 254 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: right there. So how much was they're selling those hundred 255 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: keys for? What kind of practice with you guys expecting 256 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: to get it was like ten, So it was a 257 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: million dollars like ten, and that was a pretty good 258 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: price because for out of state then I think that 259 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: it was probably like well, I think sometimes you could 260 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: have got on four nineties that were going for fourteen. 261 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: But like you know, because it was stupid for me 262 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: because I didn't to make no sense for me to 263 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: do this because I wouldly wasn't, say a hundred thousand dollars. 264 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: So it was really stupid for me to do it. 265 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean, but if it was, if this was not 266 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: the fads and this was really getting a hundred keys, 267 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean you you could have been making a lot 268 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: of money out of state with the work. No, But 269 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: as I looked back on it, stupid. It was stupid 270 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: for me to even do it because you made a 271 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: decision that you was out the games. Yeah, I just 272 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: I just I just came on. Yeah, so you must 273 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: have been just like stressed out when you first caught 274 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: that case, I mean I knew. For me, I was like, 275 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't get a life sentence. I knew 276 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: that was like I'm not gonna get a last kN 277 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: that was off the table. Yeah, because you know, honey, 278 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: keylos I read. I knew the guy lives already. I 279 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: just I just left. So I knew what the guy 280 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: laves was for the ship. I know all that stuff already. 281 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: So Rick, you know he had two strikes of it. 282 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: That's only meaning he got life because he had a 283 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: career criminal. So and he ended up getting sixteen at 284 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: the end of the day. First he got life, then 285 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: that got cut down to twenty two, and at the 286 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: end it was sixteen. Because we want to appeared one 287 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: all the appeals and everything, like even when they went 288 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: to I played guilty. I didn't go to trial. Like 289 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: the day of trial, I stood up and said, I'm 290 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: guilty of the charges dealing with the fast That's better 291 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: to do it like that, are opposed to just have 292 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: the people fix your act? Should I say for me, 293 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't. I just did it. I just went to trial. 294 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: And one of case like a year and two years 295 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: before that, so I was thinking, I'm going to trial, 296 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: but they had so much, like you know, they had pictures, 297 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: they had everything. They had been talking to the people. 298 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: So it was like, you know, if I if I 299 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: go to trial, if I lose, I'm gonna get twenty. 300 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: So I just took I played guilty, not knowing how 301 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: much time I learned it to plead and just like 302 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: go ahead and just take the deal, or go ahead 303 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: and plead out that they don't give you as much 304 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: as time as they could or they normally would. Won't 305 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: you realize that Danilo was working with the police, probably 306 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: like we was in there party three weeks and we 307 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: got some paperwork from Gary gay Web. Gay Web sent 308 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: us this paperwork, so me and ricking the sale together 309 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: and then gave Webb said I got some information. You'll 310 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: probably wanted read this stuff. So he sent us all 311 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: the stuff. And this lady had get cought Boka had 312 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: gave him the information because her boyfriend was CALO's letter 313 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: Caller's letter, you know Caller's letters with Escobard person, and 314 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: so she was telling us like they're not gonna testify 315 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: against shot because this guy has been working for the 316 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: CIA all this time, being in money to find dance 317 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: the board Nikodaga with Satinsta. So we're reading this ship 318 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: like damn. So me and Rick going through this every day. 319 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: It's like stacks. They gave us the stacks, but it 320 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: was redacted. All the stuff was blacking out, so we 321 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: didn't know the names, like, man, who were they talking about? 322 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: You know, but it was like stuff like yeah, just 323 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: give it to the niggas. Didn't sell anything, you know 324 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff like damn, So we didn't after that, 325 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: then when Maxine and got involved and she ended up 326 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: giving us to redacted. When she went got it, it 327 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: was still indictments. She went't got all the stuff and 328 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: gave it to us like and then we're reading and 329 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: stuff like damn, man, this is crazy. So all this 330 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: time this has been a happnue the finances war nigga. 331 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: It's you know, like so that really we got the 332 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: thinking of then we're gonna beat this ship. Like were 333 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: in there thinking that we were gonna be there. Then 334 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: they separated and it was me and Rix. They put 335 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: him on the floor, put us on the floor like 336 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: that kind of ship. Then they put us in a hole. 337 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: They put us in the hole because they said, we 338 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: was should we got all kind of stuff up and 339 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: then we got I was getting raided in ourselves because 340 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: information that information, they was taking it and they said, 341 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: we made this story yet. So so Gary Webb is 342 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: the one that first, um kind of put you on 343 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: game what was going on behind the scenes, because Gary 344 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: Webb is a journalist that was writing for the San 345 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: Jose Mercury News back in the nineties. Yeah, I mean 346 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: he got killed. Yeah, well they say it was the suicide, 347 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: but a lot of we talked to him a week 348 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: before he got killed. Is that right, talk to us, 349 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: Talk to us about Gary Webb, because he also put 350 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: out that amazing book called Dark Alliance. I believe that's 351 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: the book. That's the book. But also when he did 352 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: the three part story on the San Jose Mercury News, 353 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: it was called Darker Lines in that newspaper, and that 354 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: was like one of the first things that went viral 355 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: on the internet. All the pictures, all the pictures that 356 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: was in the book. I gave it to him. That 357 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: was that was my discovery that the pictures of the money, 358 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: the birds, everything in that. But his career did get 359 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: messed up from writing all of that. He couldn't get 360 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: jobs at certain newspapers. The l A Times did them wrong. 361 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: Watching the post. They wanted the story. So Gary was like, 362 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, Chi, I'm not gonna I talked to him 363 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: maybe day, like I'm not gonna give up the story. 364 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: You know, whatever happen. They didn't believe in the story 365 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: story originally because they could have wrote it if they wanted. 366 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: They knew the story was true. Yeah, they knew the story. 367 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: None of the Cats, Jesse Cats at l A time, 368 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: Jesse Cats could have wrote the story if he wanted to, 369 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: but he didn't. He wanted Gary to give him the story, 370 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: and Gary push Gary out and Gary wouldn't do that. 371 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: But a lot of these I think a lot of 372 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: them didn't believe the story. I mean ship it was 373 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: enough evidence. The judge even told it like right before trial, 374 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: like even after the try, even if they lost, like 375 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: when when we got sentenced and she said, you know, 376 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: this could have went any either way. But all the 377 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: stuff that I'm telling you, they wouldn't let him lit 378 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: in court. Like none of the c A stuff was 379 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: allowed in court. It was like we made up the story. 380 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: So you don't think any of the stuff that Gary 381 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: Webb was going through, contributed to any sort of depression 382 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: that he might have had. I was talking to the 383 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: guy all the time, Like, you know, the lady who 384 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: gave him the story cor Boca. It was alledge that 385 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: he started, you know, having affair with her, so his 386 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: wife got caught up and that kind of stuff and 387 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: all kind of stuff was happening with the story. Like 388 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: and I was a really tight with good like you know, 389 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: we developed a relationship because of the case. So what's 390 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: your what do you think happened to him? He got 391 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: Gilly said twice And now Reggie Um and James, what 392 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: do you think the guy that wrote the book, he says, 393 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: shot twice in the head? In the head? Right there? 394 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: Is it possible to commit suicide with two gunshot wants 395 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: to the head? I don't think so. I mean, you 396 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: congraze yourself, but just not talked to the girl. He 397 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: told me this is like he said. People was on 398 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: the back of his pole working and he told me 399 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: if he get killed, he didn't kill us up. I 400 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: talked to him and he told me that. But why 401 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: at that time, back by that time the story was 402 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: already out in the San Jose didn't have another Oliver 403 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: North book was already out. He was writing another story. 404 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean Oliver North was in that paper for Oliver 405 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: North was on that case. He was on the first one, 406 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: the second one. Yeah, And that's what I'm saying. They 407 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: didn't want another one that the government couldn't go through 408 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: another one of those type of hearings, because what happened, 409 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: like when he was talking about the Carry Commission, when 410 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: they did that, it was really about the drug but 411 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: they never talked about the drugs. They just talked about 412 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: the guns and stuff. But the funding, the funding exactly. 413 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: But when the planes was coming coming here, they was 414 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: loaded with the cook and then they went back with 415 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: the girls and so carry you know who was Secretary 416 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: of State act. The question like why're we talking about 417 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: the key was being over. It's all real. So John 418 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: Kerry wanted to talk about it more. He didn't want 419 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: the gun. He didn't want to talk about the guns 420 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: because he knew they were beinging over at first. And 421 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: he's a former presidential candidate, right, yeah, so he of 422 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: course he wanted to deal with that explo you know, 423 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: unfortunately they got caught up in that Republican Democrats. Do 424 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: you think it was political for John Carey, like he 425 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: didn't really care. I think everything is political. But what 426 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm curious about is max and arters was so vocal 427 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: about this in ninety six, nine seven, and then one 428 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: day she wasn't talking about it anymore. Question and she 429 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: just shut her mouth up on the topic, like did 430 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: someone come knock on your door? I think they had 431 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: something on her husband. But I answered that question because 432 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: you know when I when I came because I had 433 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: got out on Bill for like I on a few 434 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: months and she got She actually helped me get out 435 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: on the bed, like am I out on Bill? I 436 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: go to the thing that they had when when uh 437 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: what the head of the CIA, Deute came to Watts. 438 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: I was there with Maxine that was incompetent, right, had locked. 439 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Y'all know who her husband was, right, you know he's 440 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: the ambassador. The ambassador, So tell us about the incident 441 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: that locked because that was a crowded room. It was 442 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: in there. I stood up and told him they was lying. 443 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, because they was telling the people, 444 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: but they didn't know I was in there, Like as 445 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: you can find it on the internet, like they were 446 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: talking about well, you know, there's no evidence. It's made 447 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: up story. We're still investigating from the FBI. And then 448 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: I stood up and saving you're lying because you just 449 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: think that gave me a paper said investigation was over 450 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: and that we was going to prison. I was like 451 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: stood up, like you know, I'm Chico, you know the data. No, 452 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: I was in there, and I was like, you know 453 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: y'all up here lying to the people talking about the 454 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: investigation going on. I'm about to get sentence in it 455 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: because I was about I had to go to court 456 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: and like the next couple of days. But he was 457 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: telling the people like, yeah, you know you were able 458 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: to get out. I got out of like a mission, 459 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: out of bill, like indecimil Like I remember going to 460 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: Dr Dre New Year's party, so I think I got 461 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: out of party the twenty ninth. But I had stayed 462 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: in there for like a year, and he finally gave 463 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: me a bill. So they gave me a bill after year, 464 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: so I built out and then I went to I 465 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: was actually had an office in Maxine office, sitting with 466 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: her every day, so you had some important people behind 467 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: you the whole way, Like I'm surprised you actually did 468 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: any time on this case. Man, Well if we would 469 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: have won the case, but I knew we wouldn't go 470 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: win because it was too much like like when we 471 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: was going to court like every day, like you know 472 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: they had. I mean, there was so many CIA operative 473 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: in there. It was like you gotta go like three 474 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: or four medal detectives and then they say a black 475 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: do ain't gonna show up. So when black don't show 476 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: it up, I stood up and play guilty because we 477 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: couldn't win with him showing up. Because even though all 478 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: the stuff happened, they did not let us talk about 479 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: the CIA and all of that stuff just alright, case 480 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: we got busted with this and that's what it was. 481 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: So they never lived. They didn't allow none of this 482 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: just to happen, like talk about that what happened with 483 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: the government to see IA and that. Yeah, that's one 484 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: reason why I don't assist people on federal cases because 485 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: you don't have that leeway. You don't have that flexibility 486 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: to express yourself on the views and opinions on a 487 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: particular case and the facts. They want you to write 488 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: every thing that you believe in, and then it gets 489 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: presented to the U. S attorney. Then the U s 490 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: attorney will go to the judge and say, I don't 491 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: want alexand this. I don't want Alexander and I don't 492 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: want him saying that you're talking about as a witness, 493 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: as an expert consultant. Yeah, and the fact that this 494 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: is how, this is what happened in the federal kid, 495 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: but the state they're not that strict on the state trial. Well, 496 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, my brother was actually fighting the federal cage 497 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: with a gun and they was trying to give out 498 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: four years. Four oh when they offered you six years, 499 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: but if you go to try and lose like that's yeah, yeah, yeah. 500 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: So they was bringing up all the things that he 501 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: did in his past and this is gonna get you 502 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: fifty years. So I mean, this is why the conviction 503 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: ready to show goddamn how people take a deal. But 504 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: you know it's when you look back at your cage. 505 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: Do you think that if I fought it, I might 506 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: have won it maybe or do you just already know 507 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: that there was no winning that case. No, because for 508 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: my case is like I would like they had me, 509 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: they had me like this then Rick, Like, but what 510 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: I mean by winning it, we know you did what 511 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: they say you did, but there's all these other entities 512 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: involved that will get exposed in the trial. Therefore, maybe 513 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: Chicos not as guilty. Uh, the government has to take 514 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: some culpability in this as well, and maybe we'll give 515 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: you a path. If they would have, if they would 516 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: allow us to talk about the stuff about the CIA, 517 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: would happen everything we couldn't even that wasn't no defense 518 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: for us. We got caught with it and they had everything. Okay, 519 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: let's say you go to trial, though Danilo Blond don't 520 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: has to come and testify against you. Did that up? Okay, 521 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: but your attorney can cross examine him. They did that, 522 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: They did all that. Rick went to trial and he 523 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: was banking up. We're always making that thing because the 524 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: lady Core told us and then Gary us, no way 525 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna show it because you have any trapment case. Basically, yeah, 526 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: they almost, but yeah they so does hone keylo. They 527 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: had the word, not us. They had the words the cocaine, cocaine. 528 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: But just think how many times they usually cocaine to 529 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: get people like you and the rush got the pictures 530 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: of cocaine and the drug dealers making the transaction and 531 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: get caught it's the bed saying we are drug dealers. 532 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: I got a honey keys you want to buy them? Yeah, 533 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: but it's the FEDS selling cocaine to dude who us 534 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: already out the game and didn't even want to participate anymore. 535 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: That don't even matter. You ain't not the game. If 536 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm a journal on that case, I'm looking at the man. 537 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm feeling cheeko on this ship. You know what I'm saying. 538 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm like man and THI law enforcement. No I'm not. 539 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: That's how law enforcement. I'm mad THI. It's unfair. I 540 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: believe unfair. Man, you know at the Radio City Hall 541 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: or you know, his his foundation, what he was about 542 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: to you know, I forget what he called it, his 543 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: hall that he was about to make there and then 544 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: say hey, here it is. I gave a couple of days, Uh, 545 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: bring me some money to do that. Then maybe that's 546 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: a little. So if you're on Chico Brown's jury, you're 547 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: you're saying guilty. Oh wow, I couldn't even even if 548 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: the judge let some of this other stuff come in 549 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: about to see, that's different. But they didn't live there, 550 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: allowed none of it to come in. Like we couldn't 551 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: even talk about it. They wouldn't even like you know, 552 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: my lawyer got up and said he talked about it 553 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: like you no, we oh listen strike that we can't 554 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: even mention. It's about to see how you can't none 555 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: of this stuff. So Rick tried this and trial you 556 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: can't mention I tried was just we got caught with 557 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: a honey. The jury never knew that police just the 558 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: ones that shoulder that the afterwards over they don't know 559 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: nothing about the CIA because this would happen now then 560 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: do now? But this even happened to us like we 561 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: were so we're in there like we just getting let 562 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: us from say trust HASKI. He wanted to do life 563 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: story on us, so he wrote as a letter they 564 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: went raided his office in New York, so that kind 565 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: of stuff down and said we made this story up, 566 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: like like damn, this is a rap. So I didn't 567 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: want another. Did you start feeling like people don't even 568 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: want to talk to me now? People don't want to 569 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: come visit me, people don't want to call me because 570 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: of what's happening to people that have contact with you. 571 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: But we was like for like I mean, before he 572 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: wrote the book. Before the book came up, we knew this, 573 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: but nobody else knew this, like Maxine and knew it, 574 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: but the book don't don't come out until, like I 575 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I think the book came up when I 576 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: had got out of bed. The book came out, I think, 577 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: and I remember going to the story to get the book, 578 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: but he kept saying wait till the book come out, 579 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: wait till it would come out. So pretty much got 580 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: out on the pills. Then yeah, because they a second time, 581 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: because it was like it's like they wasn't with two cases. 582 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: That's really one case. So you end up been extra strike. 583 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: So the career criminals we got life. So you end 584 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: up winning both of the pills. So he end up 585 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: he end up getting sixteen at the end of the day. 586 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: I just watched an interview on lad Well Freeway. Say 587 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: he was doing a hundred A hundred keys a day? 588 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: Is the exaggerating a little bit A hundred a day. 589 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean they had a direct connect with danil O 590 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: Blonde hing if you got a hundred of the day, 591 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: you got forty cats out there. That's on that level. 592 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Checking him out of towns. Nothing. I've never even seen 593 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: a keyload of coke I've never seen. I've seen that. 594 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: I've seen a quarter key. That's the most. Nine that's 595 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: the most I've ever seen. So the thing about a 596 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: hundred keys, what's the most you've ever seen? I never 597 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: seen the key either. Wow, I would have thought of 598 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: in the in the evidence room, there's not a key 599 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: sitting in and they let me in there. I saw 600 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: sixty three keys, to be honest. So, like I said, 601 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: I know about the incident with uh what what's that 602 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: boy name? Community? And then I gave Think credit for 603 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 1: with the trailer that keys. So the Dark Lines came out. 604 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: So that was two years after he wrote those articles 605 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: in the San Jose Mercury News. No, they came out 606 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: before is when he put the story in the newspaper. 607 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: And then he took those three stories and made that 608 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: into the book because I went to get the newspaper 609 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: when he like, I actually have the original print outs 610 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: off the internet, and they had the cover was somebody 611 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: hitting the pipe with the CIA logo around it, and 612 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: the CIA said to the San Jose Mark Renews, take 613 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: our logo off of that article. That's a copyright infringement 614 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: because they didn't like the way they had a crack 615 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: pipe in the middle of the logo, but I was 616 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: I was able to print it out with that original logo. 617 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: Remember that, Yeah, I haven't. So I'm the asshole on 618 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: this uh, on this panel. I gotta ask you, bro, 619 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: how what do you feel? Or how do you feel? 620 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: And I know you're doing a lot with the community 621 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: and the youngsters now and we're gonna talk about that too. Um, 622 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: and we get into that. But when some people would say, um, 623 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: the you and free freeway was the cause of a 624 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: lot of the black families being messed up in America, 625 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, we didn't know no better because it 626 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: was at the early age, you know, so this is 627 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: all new, Like this was new to us, like even 628 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: and we didn't know how it's gonna affect people, even 629 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: that it was going to genocide or dude, have this 630 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: long lasting effect on our community as it happen, homes, 631 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: everything destroyed the black man. But it was all pre playing. Man, 632 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: that's some stuff. It was already out there. You don't 633 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: start doing it anyway. Well, the first case, so we're 634 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: talked about, he's talking about the second case. Well, there 635 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: was never any purchase made on the second case, so 636 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: damage done them. But you know, uh, they never bought 637 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: the hundred keys. Yeah, it's something about the history of 638 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: selling drugs. Yeah, that's all I'm just saying. You know 639 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people would say, well, you know freeway 640 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: in but there's a market for drugs, for drugs in America. 641 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: Someone's gonna sell those drugs to the people who they 642 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: were the ones that did it. They didn't well they 643 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: didn't have ships, that's what I was. They didn't bring 644 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: it over here. Well, it was brought to a little 645 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: bit of everybody because when it first came out, I 646 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: remember in the hood and eighty. I mean it was 647 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: popping for everybody. And who who do you think was 648 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: the source of I don't know who it was. I 649 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: didn't go to the time when it came. You know, 650 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: it was something different for us because now we're buying, 651 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, doing different ship, but were also selling it 652 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: to people. Some of our good friends I know of 653 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: are still on drugs right now today, Like Coon Dog, 654 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: you know from the neighborhood, he's still on it right now. 655 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And that's from night. But 656 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: we know more people on Shirm than anything else. Probably 657 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: back the end of the seventies, but they got right 658 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: get reverted because it's so hard. But in the eighties 659 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: and the nineties rock cocaine was affecting the black community 660 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: and the black family more than anything. If you don't 661 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: know someone in your family that was addicted to that, well, 662 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: I think it was people. They was on the potter. 663 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: They weren't on that rock and destroyed, destroying. Really like 664 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: if we talked about comes and it's Compton up a man, 665 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: I know him, Compton, how bad it was people walking people, 666 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: how houses getting burgeraged? He was affected somewhere. You had 667 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: your your kids stealing from the mama's and daddies. I 668 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: mean not the two police reports where they were taking 669 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: the TVs out of the house to take to the man. 670 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: I used to do a stolen vehicle report every day 671 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: and it was definitely for not people on the level 672 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: that that they were accused of being on. I'm talking 673 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: about just for the strawberry is going to give up 674 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: the car to the little thirteen fourteen year old guys 675 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: giving the cars that they can ride around and then 676 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: as soon as they sold broke up, they gonna fow 677 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: a police report. It was just don't even look at 678 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: like our parents was buying homes and compting, and there's 679 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: a gap like in the eighties, like we were supposed 680 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: to be buying losing it because because the kids on 681 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: crack grandmother then sold the house Grandma Grandma. Then then 682 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: it just devastated, not just compting. Everywhere you go, every 683 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: black communter was those people over there. And then we 684 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: used to that was like the crackhouse and everybody just 685 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: going that was what coming to my house. Yeah she was, 686 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: she got rid of some time. But I mean, I mean, 687 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: it's just the choices that people make. And now like today, 688 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: like you, you're trying to make a difference. You're trying 689 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: to get back from what you where you felt that 690 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: you wasn't wrong. Get I mean, do you really think 691 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: you old? When I came home, Like for real, when 692 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: I when I first came home, I immediately started working 693 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: at a place called home because, um, well your heart 694 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: seem to have been there the first time. Yeah, Robert Greenwell, 695 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: who was the movie producer Accident, what you wanted to like, 696 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: I gotta get back. That was my whole thing was 697 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: giving back. Uh, And so I started working at the 698 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: place come home and then I saw them kids, I 699 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't be like, you know me sell dru exisen. So 700 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm like talking to him like, man, you're going to prison, 701 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: Like this is what's gonna happen at the end of 702 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: the day. This was gonna happen no matter how much 703 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: money you make. And then the day like even when 704 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: we really get called, it's like, damn, this was pre 705 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: playing a year ago. They for a year like in 706 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: my first case, it was like six year investigation, like 707 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: this is like and then with Rick, they waited for 708 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: him to get up. It was already pre playing, like 709 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: let's set this back up. And when it was mad, 710 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: it was mad. What was that because he testified against 711 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of cops exactly. So I get caught up 712 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: and rixed. I get caught up on he test his 713 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: police and he tell he'd tell you he too, like 714 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: the other day I saw he was talking about it. 715 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: But like I really didn't have nothing to do with 716 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: that situation. I really just came on and you wish 717 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: you didn't have no money? Then I was broken. Yeah, 718 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: So that's that's how I get a caught up in 719 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: this situation. I'm surprised people call him a snitch because 720 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: he's exposed about him. What's that? Yeah? Have you heard that? Yeah? 721 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean I think when you're when you're exposing beure 722 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: a practic and the fiction to corruption. That movie with 723 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: the lay in, that's why he gets the past. You 724 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: got it just died Ray Lucas. Yeah, that's why you 725 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: get past because he was like, I only took down 726 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: police crookeet cops. Okay, um, talk a little bit more 727 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: about a place called Home? Where was it located? How 728 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: did you get that job? And what was it like there? 729 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: Place called Home was the seventh and Central and uh, 730 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: what happened? Gary? Uh? What's his name? Robert Greenwall who 731 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: bought the Robbert Greenwall had bought the rights to the 732 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: book about Me and Rick, and so he's coming. He 733 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: visited me while I'm in prison. He was like, so, Cheeka, 734 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: what you gonna do when you come home? I said, 735 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: I gotta get back. I got you back to the kids. 736 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: And he actually was on the board at a Place 737 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: Go Home. He said, go talk to Deba. She's the 738 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: founder of Place Go Home and if you if you 739 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: want to work there, you can work there. So they won. 740 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: When I came home, I stopped working at the place 741 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: go Home. I started as and when year was at 742 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: uh two thousand one place I call home, being around 743 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: a while because I remember back in ninety six Sugar 744 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 1: did some I think he donated a studio or something. 745 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: The studio stud I just went up an other day. 746 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: So I came home in two thousand one and I 747 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: met you shortly after you came home. Then my first 748 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: office was two thousand and one on Adams, and I 749 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: came to you. Yeah. Yeah, I had my little spot 750 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: on Adams and Normandy, which is an area where I 751 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: grew up at had my first little office. It was 752 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: so tiny, it was twelve feet by upstairs, yeh, upstairs. 753 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: And then I grew out of that office and got 754 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: one on Wilshire and uh. But yeah, man, at that time, 755 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: you were at a place called home and just like 756 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, helping the kids, doing game provention programs. And 757 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: I started a sports program, a a U team because 758 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: I was started the kids, you know, and then I'm 759 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: one of the kids really participating in basketball. So you 760 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: end up starting them programs and educational program So first 761 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: I thought I was just gonna go up there and 762 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: just you know, get out for parole. So I was 763 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 1: still I really started liking the kids. So I started 764 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: going to Compton and pick up the kids, like the 765 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: Morrow and then the kids people. Ya don't know that 766 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: he he was very instrumental helping the Morrow, the Rosa, uh, 767 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: you know, get his get his career going on the South. 768 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: So I got a few kids right now and that's 769 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: in the league. Like when I started the traveling team, 770 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 1: end up building it from one team to like eight teams, 771 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 1: and I'm traveling all over with the kids raising money. 772 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: Um that was my nister. I knew how to raise 773 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: the money because I had a lot of celebrities, and 774 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: so I've raised money to take these kids all over 775 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: the country. You also, uh have a good relationship with 776 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: mamter P. That relationship we've been tight even like families 777 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: from Louisiana. So we actually friends before we even he 778 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: made it big. We knew each other. Then my father 779 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: knew his father, that kind of stuff. So now you 780 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: grew up in Compton, What part of Compton, what neighborhood 781 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: area where did you first, you know, get your start 782 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: at and in uh Compton corner pocket, coming by crib stones. 783 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: My neighbors like I'm I'm been knowing them all my life. 784 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: We grew up on the same street. What's that Jerry 785 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: Stone and what's the other one? Michael Michael Stone, Anthony 786 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: and punching and all. I'm like, we lived like four 787 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: houses that five hours of down. So it was it 788 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: like growing up over there in corner Pocket. I mean, 789 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: it was it was growing up then. You know, we're 790 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: talking about sixty four when I was born. I mean 791 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: I got shot in seventy six, like when I was twelve, 792 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: gang violence stuff like that. But fifty four, yeah, look 793 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: good for you. Yeah. So I mean just like any 794 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: other normal family growing up, and you know, the gang 795 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: stuff start coming. I think Pocketed like seventy two. So 796 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: I was not involved in it until like seventy seven, 797 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: seventy eight, just claiming neighbor because it wasn't I didn't 798 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: get jumped in the gang. This is where I'm from, 799 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: so I didn't had to get jump in the game. 800 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: This is where you know, we riding bikes and stuff 801 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: like that that we became that going to Pocket. It's 802 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: like just like every neighborhood had started. Like you you're 803 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: fund man, that's where you're gonna be fun. You've been 804 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: a company guy in freeway in l a guy had 805 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: tod y'all meet just having money type, like you know, 806 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff being in the game. You know 807 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 1: each other, you know each other, like, oh, that's food 808 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: from you, you know. And then I mean, but I 809 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: wasn't just regular dudes on the street, you know, it 810 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: was just it was just money, like, yeah, a little 811 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: bit better in the game than others. And you're right there. 812 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,879 Speaker 1: The Carver Carver Park is close by to Carver Park, 813 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: you know. Then Clocketing Carver Park was tight when we 814 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: like I went to sten you for my first year 815 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 1: un till my friend Norman got killed like nineteen eighty, 816 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: like got shot in the head with me there. So 817 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: that was like one of the biggest well not the biggest, 818 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: but one of the first out of school nineteen eighty. 819 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: So I got shot in the head while we're going 820 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: to centen because then that Centennia was cryptonpart over there anyway. 821 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: But then it was like then when he got killed, 822 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: they kicked all of us out and we end up 823 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: going to compt and that's how we had like we 824 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: had to go to compt and like kicked everybody out 825 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: that lives in the pocket, so district. We got to 826 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: redistrict this real quick. And James, you went to Centennial also, right, 827 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: I went. I didn't go to class, but I went 828 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: to Jenny Man. I I remember like putting us to 829 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: come up there, like you know, I was, I was 830 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: ditching in the ninth grade. I was going with the 831 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: Walton but I used to go up there. But she 832 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: used to come up there, Like, man, why is this 833 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: old dude coming up there? Man? Grade? Like he'd come 834 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: up there because hang out selling single joints. He's talking 835 00:43:55,160 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: about putting y'all, yeah, picking up his good friends. That 836 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: was then. That was. But to me, I ask you, 837 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: do you regret any of that the game banging days. 838 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of people died, like a lot 839 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: of people that you know, it's terrible if you really 840 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: think about like that's the stupidest shit ever, Like if 841 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: you think about it now, like how do you even 842 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: I think about it now? And and I do say, 843 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, if I know what I know now, I 844 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 1: would have never been like that. Um. I think gang 845 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: banging create monsters inside of the ball of us, you know, 846 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: and then when you get older, you you reflecting that 847 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: should and you'll be saying like damn, I know I 848 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't get down like that, you know. I mean a 849 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: lot of times, like even your brother used to be 850 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: in a cart with me, like because because Manny and 851 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: I raq all in my family so used to go 852 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: over there, like they all knew me because I was 853 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, I was hitting everybody over there. So it 854 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: was like, you know, people gave me a pass because 855 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: of that reason. Like I remember, just like I mean, 856 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: you're bringing everybody, you got them all right, ship got 857 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: riding motorcycles and cause anybody not just saying nothing to 858 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 1: that guy. So it was cool with a lot of pirrous. Yeah, 859 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: like everybody in FRUITTI like it was all about that, 860 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: like purple okay whatever. A lot of people at a 861 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: Staters out of towners don't understand the idea that Piru 862 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: and the crib Can function together. Were the same bus 863 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: to school with the team. The bus picked us up 864 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: in stock with they get they come from that side, 865 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 1: get on the bus and we came from this side. 866 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: Kind of bus. We fought on all the way to 867 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 1: the things back they pick us up, dropping back off. 868 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: It's crazy ship. This is you know, this is eighty Yeah, 869 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: like you know, you got a lot of like you say, 870 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: eighties people are getting shot in eighty two, but not 871 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: like you know eighties, five, six, eight up, but like 872 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 1: eighty yeah started game making them start to been able 873 00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: to get the high. Yeah that control. Then you don't 874 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: have to break in the neighborhouse to get the guy girlfriend. However, 875 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 1: you got it now. I noticed over the years, you 876 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: don't really talk a lot about the neighborhood you grew 877 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: up in. I was wondering you just you don't really 878 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,760 Speaker 1: go there too much. I mean, you know, everybody, especially 879 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: people from Compton, are always saying what part of the 880 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: neighborhood they're from or where they grew up. And he 881 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: was mainly known as the man not a game. Yeah 882 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: that's true. You know both parts played. He played both parts, 883 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: but that he may have one title, yeah yeah, the 884 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: kid of titles. So even carrying those titles. I mean, 885 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, some of the little kids might look at 886 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: you right now and say that's what's going right there. 887 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: That's when they used to. I mean it's crazy because 888 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: you can't. People want did you live past that? That's 889 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: true because you know, I put I put my name 890 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 1: in there they say Corning Pike Crib like on the internet. Yeah, 891 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: they don't let you live past that. Even with all 892 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: the stuff that I do now, and there's always like, 893 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's either the Cohen Pike Crib is either 894 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: the Freeway race story it's up. It ain't that out. 895 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: And I've done films. I just you know, I did 896 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: the movie VACS, like about the vaccination. I got some 897 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: stuff that I've done. I gotta deal with Netflix. I 898 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: really do movies now, but it's still, you know, I 899 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: think it's just now saying that I'm a producer um 900 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: CEO this company. But it took a while. Well let's 901 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 1: talk about that Netflix deal. That was a Compton project. 902 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: Let's take us to the beginning of that that deal 903 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: right there. Well, this was something I was already doing. 904 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: And a matter of fact, Timmy Rule, Timmy Rout was 905 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: with me when I first started this, like I was 906 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: building houses in Competent and him and man when I 907 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: first started doing this in Competent. What happened We started 908 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: that guys did a game prevention program in Compton. We 909 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: started off with like eight dudes, not four dudes. It's stuff. 910 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: Then when big I don't know it's hundreds of dudes coming. 911 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: I satted up celebrity baseball game cripts and pie routs, right, 912 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: I mean every neighborhood was involved, and so it was 913 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: promised jobs, you know, the dudes like, yeah, I'll do this. 914 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure y'all get some jobs and ship. 915 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 1: It never happened. So I decided like, oh man, this 916 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: is terrible. Like the dudes looking at me like chick man, 917 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: he said this, you said that, And I was like, 918 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: So I started a person in the house and come. 919 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: So I put the house like, man, this is what 920 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get the house. I know 921 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: all y'all learned to scale like in jail. So I'm 922 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: gonna take y'all and y'all gonna fix the house, and 923 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay y'all like that. So I was doing that. 924 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,439 Speaker 1: I was going to the mile, but I was getting them. 925 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: I was throughtown and so I put five cripts and 926 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: five pipe routs together. So I started building houses in Compton, 927 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: just refurbishing them. I was paying them out of my pocket, 928 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: like I give. I was giving him a hundred dollars 929 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,919 Speaker 1: a day. I think I had twelve to it because 930 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: I was paying the twelve OEt of dollars of day. 931 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: So this kept going on for years. I was kept 932 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: buying houses, kept eating in the house. And then I'm 933 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: telling Penny Penny more so, like she said, so what 934 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: are you doing? Like are you're giving back? Like yeah, 935 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing, she said. So I had 936 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: videotapes on my phone and I was showing them like 937 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 1: these dudes in these Christian PROBERTI was they getting a loan. Look, 938 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 1: they're really getting a loan because they're working. And so 939 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 1: Penny were like, what you call Mark, Mark Wahlburt, And 940 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: she said, called Mark and show him this. I think 941 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: this is something that you can do and we should 942 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: really get behind you and help you. So Mark told 943 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: me to come to his house. I went to his 944 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: house and I showed it to him. Like she goes, 945 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: what if you what if you start building like Youth 946 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: Sentence in Compton and baseball Field, But you know if 947 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: if they if the if the buildings are available, we'll 948 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: help you raise the money to buy the building. So 949 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm like cool, Like all right, So I went to 950 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: count and found the buildings like say, like Cynthia and 951 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: the building that was one of the first ones. I 952 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: was gonna do it, like yeah, but I and I 953 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: and I said it was cool because I like, I 954 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: just want to redo it. Like so now at this 955 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: point is like, okay, you gotta get permission from the city, like, okay, 956 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 1: write a proposed. I did all that stuff, so I 957 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: got Mark Warburg and then like give me the money, 958 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: you know, Chico, go ahead and just do it and 959 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 1: just keep doing it. Rebuild your sitting. Then we would 960 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: come making. So that's where at first I had an 961 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 1: HBO and then we took it to somewhere else than Netflix. 962 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: Loved the idea. Some Netflix like it's great, you can meet, 963 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: let's do that. So I ended up submitting about proposal. 964 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 1: But we still work. We never started working. So the 965 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: dudes is working filming. I was feeling like six or 966 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: seven months because the dudes. I got the dudes working, 967 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: but I'm thinking no reason that they would say no 968 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: because I'm giving the money. I got the dudes working, 969 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: and the dudes everybody happy because they getting you know, 970 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm paying the twelve huts weeks. So everybody just working 971 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: and happy. And then what happened when they denied this 972 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: because of the you know with the politics. Okay, talk 973 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 1: about how that vote had a impact on this program. 974 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: Let me be advocate to say their side of the 975 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: of the of why they say, because I'm a little 976 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 1: confused on why does the Compton City Council have any 977 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 1: say so over a private show between private entities because 978 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: the buildings that I wanted to do was owned by 979 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: the city by the city, and it was in redevelopment, 980 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: and that they were having to while put all this 981 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: money into a building when they have to give it 982 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: back to the state. Is the people that against But 983 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: it was all politics. It was this young lady on 984 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: the board, uh Jana um Zarita, I'm saying her name correct. 985 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: And the young lady that he has a good relationship 986 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: with his the mayor, which is Asia Brown. Anything that 987 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: she was voting and someone got her on on tape 988 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: and it anything that she the Asia was four or 989 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: even it was good for the city. And that don't 990 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: make no sense because years this is his money he's 991 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 1: putting up. Now, if you're helping us, this man is 992 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: helping gang bangers get to get off the street. Ain't 993 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 1: nobody else doing this in Compton? I got down down 994 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 1: in one work Big Dave Ducky, I mean ship, I 995 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 1: had everybody on the thing like you know still today, 996 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: Well they'd need a job. They got Chris Brown in 997 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: the head locked right now, and you know what that's 998 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: that is so crazy, all all your rivals, you're working 999 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: with him in that you did win him in a 1000 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: different way. And that's that's the coldest part about this. 1001 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: Everybody don't see you got you got Bloods, Encryption, Compton 1002 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: finding each other, killing each other every day. But now 1003 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you got a man 1004 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: hiring Bloods, which he could have kept that just to 1005 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 1: his side of the city. It was worth you know, 1006 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta sacrifice stuff to happen. It was worth 1007 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: it in my opinion, for for that to go down, 1008 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: because that eventually hurt her. He lost her job as 1009 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: a June. Jana's Rita is not a city council member. 1010 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: Should you shooting put this again? You know, and they 1011 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: want me to bring it back, but it's just, you know, 1012 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,280 Speaker 1: the controversion that went, Like Netflix never wanted the consperence. 1013 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: It was just me going in there to do Gonzales part, 1014 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: to do Sentiate building, to do the golf course, like 1015 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: the controversy like Chico, you know, what's this conference? Why 1016 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: is they saying no? They couldn't believe that they were 1017 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: saying no when I raised the money to bring it 1018 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 1: to the city, and what they would say, you know, 1019 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to like both sides to tell it. 1020 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: They would say, well, we don't need to do anything. 1021 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 1: You heard, you heard nobody this offer on the on 1022 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: the golf course. That's golfing. You hurd the homeless. So 1023 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: why you ain't going out to help the homeless and 1024 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: all of that. But it wasn't about that. It was 1025 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: just that they anything positive. That's why our streets and 1026 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: all of that is still messed up in the city. 1027 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 1: It's because anything that was positives going on those three 1028 00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: those those three they they they voted that like it laughs. 1029 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: And I'm telling them, like when they did that, I 1030 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: was like, you know, we sideboard like that, I really 1031 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: did this. You're gonna do this for real? And they 1032 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: were like, well, you know, but every three no votes though, 1033 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: so it took more than she controlled all three of 1034 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: the votes. So if there was a revote and after 1035 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: the council members changed, like you said, they're gonna have 1036 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: to go through the red tape and all the politics 1037 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 1: down there, and they're gonna say yeah, like they will 1038 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: say because it's something positive. I mean, this literally cost 1039 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: this woman her job, I believe, Like I mean, iked 1040 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: no question to co Yeah, yeah, this cost to her 1041 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: her job, and so I'm pretty sure she would she 1042 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: would retake Well, what really cost her job is because 1043 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: it happens all the time, but somebody was smart enough 1044 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: to catch it on tape, her pretty much saying it, 1045 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 1: and the social media. I was filming the show, right, 1046 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: it's five cameras in there, and I got post sole 1047 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: around the wall that we're filming show in the Mexican 1048 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 1: guy stood up and said, while all these cameras in there, 1049 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: that's on the tape too, and they told him that 1050 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 1: the city manager said he has the right and he 1051 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: has to permit. They said all of this in there, 1052 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 1: and she still made the statement and said all that 1053 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 1: about the man the East Ship and die she would 1054 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 1: never vote for She said that on tape that I mean, 1055 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: everybody media, I'm sure to you, I have the whole trailer, 1056 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 1: like it's terrible to watch, Like, so, how difficult will 1057 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: it be to reconnect with Netflix after the no vote. 1058 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: Are we still talking? And what's it like working with 1059 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg? Mark? Mark is a real dude, Like you know, 1060 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 1: I've traveled with him, like you know, go to Boston 1061 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: was parents and Mark actually helped He gave me, like 1062 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, I bought the building. He actually bought a 1063 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: building for me on Weston like years ago, like probably 1064 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 1: twelve years ago. Like I've been working with once since 1065 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: I came home. So's he's actually acutive producer of other 1066 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,479 Speaker 1: TV show meet him and Penny sause they could produce 1067 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: that is those names, those names alone, lay ship want 1068 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,720 Speaker 1: to do it? Yeah, with just those two names alone. 1069 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: So without Penny, uh, does it create challenges to keep 1070 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: the show going. The only thing was messed up the 1071 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: show was the consen what's is crazy to me? And 1072 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 1: the show was gonna show not only show was gonna 1073 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 1: help a content. We're just gonna take this to New 1074 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: York Chicago and do it all over, do it all 1075 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: over and take the guys from their city and show 1076 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 1: that you got Krypton pote roules who was killing each 1077 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 1: other and yeah, and I'll be getting calls from right 1078 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 1: now like we had do the show like even like 1079 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: Lord l A. Lynnwood. You know they want me to 1080 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: come to the city. That's just too positive for these 1081 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 1: for people, just too well, no, I think the right, 1082 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 1: that's all. Yeah, that's all. It was just fortunately for 1083 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:59,240 Speaker 1: the city and the community. You know, you need to invest, 1084 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean investigate the part about what they are saying 1085 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 1: about the state owned buildings, you know and REDI development. 1086 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: But that's their biggest that's their only defense is that 1087 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,800 Speaker 1: the building that they're about to invest the money and 1088 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: we have to get back to the state. We don't 1089 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: the city, meaning the city doesn't own them. So the 1090 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: City of commun doesn't even own these buildings. That's what 1091 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: they say. That's what they say, that they own the building. 1092 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: Like they're take it that we've been working at the 1093 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: golf of course sixty years. Will who the guy that 1094 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: runs the golf course, part three sixty part three of them, 1095 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: there's never been no work done on the golf course. 1096 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: So when I went over there and asked him, he 1097 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: was so happy, like, you know, we're gonna do this, 1098 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: and I like, you know, have a celebrity golf thing 1099 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: here and make sure that your building, like you know, 1100 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: it's been a million dollars on this building, but if 1101 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: they're just gonna make people come to Compton. He was 1102 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 1: so hurt that he didn't get past man like he 1103 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 1: actually quit. He's a city employee, you've been there for 1104 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: six t is who's the front running from city manager 1105 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: now that I Rambo resigned, resigned and like that everything 1106 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: that happened happened for a reason, like it just to 1107 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 1: do a big curve in the whole Compton politics. What 1108 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 1: was it? Was it true to Jana not Jana Satra 1109 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: and Rambo was in a relationship party that that I 1110 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 1: don't even know. I know who who does this? No 1111 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: vote hurt the most that this project got stalled, Like 1112 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 1: who's who's really affected by this? The most people to 1113 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: own a building decryption problem was me? It is bestly too, 1114 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: because you know it's about production. A lot of people 1115 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: mad at you because they think you have something to 1116 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: do with the no vote. No, that you didn't do something, 1117 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: You didn't work hard enough to get this voted through 1118 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: on like every day, Like like the crew is say, 1119 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: altogether there has to be like thirty or forty years old, 1120 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: is that they did all this go down? The actually 1121 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: feeling we started feeling problems and when they got finally 1122 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: denied December. It's not that old six months ago Decembers, 1123 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: but you know we still meet. You know, it would 1124 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 1: end up building the studio, like a private studio in 1125 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: the building some stuff, like found the building in Compton, 1126 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: Like we we meet over there now. But it's it's 1127 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: just like the city of have nothing to do with it. Well, 1128 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 1: we still talk, like we still talk every day. What 1129 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 1: it did, dude like got her all office, got dudes 1130 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 1: that we're never talking like her in and then somebody 1131 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 1: else little yeah, the other dude trying to Yeah, sometimes 1132 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: it's not good to all on yourself with people. So 1133 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 1: if Omar was actually Mayor, this wouldn't happen either, because 1134 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 1: he was together. He was actually helping her. Yeah, she 1135 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 1: didn't want to associate herself with him too much. Help 1136 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 1: Asia Okay, not Asia, Jina Okay. Yeah, Omar was held 1137 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: from Jina and it kind of hurt him. He kind 1138 00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: of try to say a distance because him and the 1139 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: roy Guillery doesn't get along that well. They called him 1140 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Bishop or something like that, but they don't get on, 1141 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: and so he was trying to cut a distance. But 1142 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 1: of course Bishop is getting the blame down for you know, 1143 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: because Omar said to see if he would listen to me, 1144 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: you were the one. So they're gonna through all of 1145 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: that right now. But I got a question, Yeah, do 1146 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,439 Speaker 1: you do you or have you had any resistance from 1147 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: different sides, like how do you balance this guy's working together? 1148 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 1: We had to meet the Compton party two or three weeks. 1149 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: It tells the age of the people. So that's that's 1150 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: the biggin. You got to know the age of you know, 1151 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: like you know, older dudes like me. But then we 1152 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 1: bought the younger dudes in by three weeks ago at 1153 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: the church. It was it was interesting, Okay, what age 1154 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: is that when you say younger eight? Usually the hardheads. 1155 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: It was you know, it kind of went down, but 1156 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: it was cool. It was like it was in the 1157 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 1: newspaper of the day that that stuff that was in. 1158 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 1: It was time to the nice art that we did it. 1159 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 1: It was real nice though. It was like it was like, 1160 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, pot the seventy eight of us. The 1161 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: meeting went good. We're talking about the meeting went good. 1162 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: It went good, but you know it got kind of 1163 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 1: heated and ship well, I mean, you know you're gonna 1164 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 1: have some knuckleheads in the crowd. You know you got those. 1165 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm this for one hundred on both sides. My question 1166 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 1: is like just like just working with both sides. No, Man, 1167 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 1: that was like the most excited and fascinating stuff because 1168 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: we really get you know. I mean there's people who 1169 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 1: shot somebody from my neighborhood and we noticed, like you're 1170 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 1: shot in and shot him. We're talking about this. You're 1171 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 1: all doing the ninety two right, I mean the truths. Yeah, 1172 01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: and we talked about that too. That did not work out, Will, Yeah, 1173 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: we were like, when you know, no, I worked out 1174 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: pretty good. Come one had the lowest crime rate yan 1175 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: gang homicide rate since the year following. It had its 1176 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: own reasons for not It may not have lasted as 1177 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: long as people wanted it to last, but some people 1178 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 1: will tell you that it still lasted to them. You know. 1179 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: It had a different impact on everyone in a different way, 1180 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, but I think it did have an impact. 1181 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,959 Speaker 1: Look at them homicide number. You have the right guys 1182 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 1: over the little youngsters that that will that that that 1183 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 1: have enough influence over them to talk. That's the main thing. Yeah, 1184 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 1: because the youngsters is the one that the old hands 1185 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: like Jays. That was one of my questions, like like 1186 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 1: you do with the older catch, which they already but 1187 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 1: each dude, like how we set it up. Each dude 1188 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: was supposed to go back to his neighborhood, like say, 1189 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 1: somebody representing this neighborhood and you gotta go back to 1190 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 1: your neighbor and talk to the honest And that's how 1191 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: we was doing the whole program, Like that was your 1192 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: thing for being a part of the game. Convincing thing. 1193 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: You gotta has to be somebody to go over there 1194 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 1: and they can talk to them something. Sometimes these youngsters 1195 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 1: ain't listening to the old gs. And then you see, 1196 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 1: these are the ones I truly believe we got to 1197 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 1: reach because if you stop this kid, his mentality is 1198 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna be different when he when he had a kid, 1199 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 1: and he ain't gonna want to think like that. All 1200 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 1: the youngsters are the ones is out there today active. 1201 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: You don't got too many fifty year old kids out there, 1202 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 1: like really active, you know what I'm saying. But the 1203 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 1: respect though, no, but you're no good if you're not active. 1204 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 1: And Luke Cash look at that, Oh he ain't doing 1205 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 1: what we're doing. We out here wolf just keeping him 1206 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: one hunted. So my thing is if you if you 1207 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: take the youngsters and put them in there just doing demolition, 1208 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: exactly what I was doing. Like yeah, I got some 1209 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 1: youngsters too. That was like one part of the program. 1210 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 1: And you gotta be you gotta tease this dude. Man, 1211 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: you gotta go back showing them that like look, man, 1212 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 1: as you part of this community too, we need you. 1213 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 1: So he can go back and tell the dude check man, 1214 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm tired. I don't want like I was doing houses 1215 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 1: way in the valley, dudes coming home tired, man, like 1216 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,479 Speaker 1: manny them like I had new working ain't so tired. 1217 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 1: Working was the first thing they ever had. They never 1218 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: had no job, so using and moving their bodies the 1219 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: way they was. I mean they wouldn't use to that. 1220 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 1: They was used to waking up in the hood, hitting 1221 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 1: the block. Let's do what they do. So, I mean, 1222 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 1: it's something different for everybody because I believe, like for real, man, 1223 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 1: nobody was born the big Game member, Like you know, 1224 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 1: that's it. You know, you get attached to the lifestyle 1225 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 1: because you go outside your dice, drink whatever, and then 1226 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: that like you said, you have a kid, you got responsibilities, 1227 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: and that's the part that most of your youngsters don't understand, 1228 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,440 Speaker 1: like the responsibility part of it. And then once you 1229 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 1: get older, you get the thing like, damn man, I 1230 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 1: wasted all this time doing this for and give him 1231 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 1: a pay check when they're is you robbed somebody? You 1232 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,959 Speaker 1: spend that money like that, But when you earn that money, 1233 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 1: bottom shoes. I ain't been a pace to spend all 1234 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 1: my money on nothing. You know what I'm saying, is 1235 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 1: they they they you become more frugal with your money. Yeah, 1236 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 1: you have to. You have to. So that's what that's 1237 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 1: what they need to be chump man, and exactly what 1238 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 1: we're trying to do. The program would really help because 1239 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: he's like and we do like a lot of the 1240 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 1: sports program is done in kind of like the baseball stuff. 1241 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 1: We all grew up like we knew each other. If 1242 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: you're from fruit time where we all knew each other. 1243 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 1: We played baseball South part and I played basketball. I 1244 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 1: lose part when I was a kid, Like you know, 1245 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 1: the basketball program was in. So all that stuff got 1246 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,439 Speaker 1: taken away and then you want this can you ain't 1247 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: have nothing? Apple time, It's gonna get you some I 1248 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 1: always say that, I said they don't want our previous 1249 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 1: shows that in still putting all this money into the 1250 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement and all of that, we really need to 1251 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 1: start getting that money back into the parking recreations. That's 1252 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: exactly like like me, that's what I'm trying to do now, 1253 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 1: like rebuild and revitalize the whole sports and wreck like 1254 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, these kids got even like if it's boxing, 1255 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is, you gotta get these kids something to do. 1256 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 1: They'll have nothing to do. They're gonna find something. And 1257 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of them that they got some squabble 1258 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 1: that ship being some gloves, you'll get a whole bunch 1259 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 1: of them to come through there that's worthy, are aware 1260 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 1: and some gloves. You got a lot of them out there. 1261 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 1: And they love to fight. Yeah, they love to fight. 1262 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 1: My whole thing, I've always dreamed that I had a 1263 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 1: building and I had the older guys that was doing breaks, 1264 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 1: alternatives and ship like that, teaching the kids how to 1265 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, and they took all that out of school, 1266 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 1: like even the woodshop and left the metal shop. Oh 1267 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 1: that was taking out and I had that I don't know, 1268 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 1: and it was so stuff like that. We got to 1269 01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: keep the kids involved. If not. I mean, you know 1270 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't want to see it happy, 1271 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Like let's keep the community. Yeah, James always been big 1272 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: on teaching the trade. Yeah, everybody's not gonna go to 1273 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 1: college and go to school. Let's teach you out to 1274 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 1: trade where you can still make money because you're making breaks, 1275 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 1: doing breaks and working on cars, and it's gonna always 1276 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 1: be a business for them. Absolutely not everybody want to 1277 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 1: go to university, and you don't have to. If you 1278 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: learn it here and you and where you're learning, and 1279 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 1: that you can be certified from there, then it's worth it. 1280 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 1: You know, going to somebody's garage and learning it. They're 1281 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 1: not gonna certify you just because you learned that that 1282 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: uncle's garage. So you have to have a building where 1283 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 1: a program where you can be certified. Man, you know 1284 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 1: something like that, and then say I got some under 1285 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:47,959 Speaker 1: my build, I'm gonna go get a job. I'm gonna 1286 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 1: do this. It's something we love to do. You know 1287 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you run the streets all day, 1288 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day in a car and getting 1289 01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 1: high and leaned out and just d can, you ain't 1290 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: gonna want to do nothing. But if you wake up 1291 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 1: and go here learn how to put on your time. 1292 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,440 Speaker 1: I watched this one black guy just giving out suits 1293 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 1: to the young brothers and and and it made them, 1294 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 1: it made him feel good about thisselves. You know what 1295 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what comes to me. That's what And 1296 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 1: if everybody working on their own city like that, then 1297 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,639 Speaker 1: you can take it from your city to this city 1298 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 1: to that city and don't have no problems. My city good, 1299 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 1: my backyard clean. Stept at centennial of high school. They're 1300 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: they're in Raeford. He did a thing when he had 1301 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 1: all types of black men come in to teach him 1302 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 1: how to tie tie and gave him a t I 1303 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,720 Speaker 1: donate tis to teach him how to hire tie. You 1304 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 1: know a little brother that goes a long way that 1305 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 1: is little from Pyro brother. Yeah, who never gaged banged 1306 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 1: by the way for a couple of years because because 1307 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,600 Speaker 1: my whole costs up on the competent rise that I 1308 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,599 Speaker 1: was doing. Like because everybody, when you go to prison, 1309 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a job. So is it plumbing, if 1310 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 1: it's drywall, if it's payton. So I was like every dude, everybody, 1311 01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 1: all of us went to prison, but nobody want to hire. 1312 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: So what if we just started the construction company? What 1313 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 1: you learned how to do? Yeah, that's that's how I started. 1314 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,679 Speaker 1: Like you know, the town says, so it was time 1315 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 1: putting the floors in Like so yeah, man, yeah all 1316 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 1: that is real, Like I was a plumber in prison, 1317 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like the teacher got 1318 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 1: the whole everything because you run the prison. So take 1319 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 1: that trade from prison and bring it back out to 1320 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 1: the streets. But they're not gonna hire you. I have to. 1321 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 1: We have to hire you, like we gotta make this 1322 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 1: this happen. So that was the whole concept of the show, 1323 01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 1: Like these dudes went to prison, came home like everybody 1324 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 1: was on the show. All of them went to prison, 1325 01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 1: and the good thing would have shown other at what 1326 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,680 Speaker 1: we can do and make them not be scared to 1327 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 1: take a chance on hardness exactly. And then then right now, 1328 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: like for real, after all this stuff came out, then 1329 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you all once we finished, I'm gonna 1330 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 1: show you all the show and you see the dudes 1331 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,640 Speaker 1: where it can we're doing this eating together everything like 1332 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,160 Speaker 1: some way out like it needs to dudes, who was 1333 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,360 Speaker 1: you know when the eighties was killing each other. Man, 1334 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you get that back and going, yeah, 1335 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 1: I think we need to We got a feature the Brothers. Man. 1336 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: I ac truly I should have God. I applaud you, 1337 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 1: like like because what you're doing a lot of cats 1338 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,560 Speaker 1: out of Compton that have money or had should have 1339 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,439 Speaker 1: been doing this a long time ago. And and and 1340 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,639 Speaker 1: I like one hundred applaud you because you didn't only 1341 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 1: look out for your own people. You looked out for 1342 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 1: your black people. And you got the Bloods and Crypts 1343 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 1: doing the thing. And man, just the cold thing. Like 1344 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 1: we was eating dinner or eating lunch and every day 1345 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: and we talked about all the you know, we talked 1346 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 1: about this stuff like many everybody. Everybody want to go 1347 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 1: back and help man grab to do because because I remember, 1348 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 1: like I don't know about four or five years ago, 1349 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 1: because when I first started this and I had a 1350 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,599 Speaker 1: celebrity I had a I didn't even call a celebrity game, 1351 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 1: but I had to have Penny market on him come. 1352 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 1: But it was krypton part rous planning each other at 1353 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 1: Compton College. And we so it was like five thousand people. 1354 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 1: Every neighborhood was at this place, at the thing in 1355 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,600 Speaker 1: the police were like, chick, I don't know how you 1356 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,759 Speaker 1: did it. I don't even know how this is even possible. 1357 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,799 Speaker 1: This sounds like every neighborhood was there, man, and everybody's 1358 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 1: shaking it in. You know. We got a picture with 1359 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 1: just it's so many crypti part rules on the field 1360 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 1: and it was it was great, Like no, nothing happened 1361 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 1: like what happened the folding weeks that nobody got a 1362 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 1: job and that's what that's how the program went away. 1363 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 1: Like I actually like, you know, no, I can't get 1364 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: down like this if I promises do job. I promising 1365 01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 1: this and it don't happen. So I stepped away from 1366 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 1: the program. It I was the president that would have 1367 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 1: got exposed on next that it's gonna happen. It's still 1368 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's just a fact, like you know, like 1369 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people take a chance with some people. Yeah, 1370 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm still today. Like the little piece that 1371 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 1: you guys saw, just a little piece, like I'm gonna 1372 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 1: show you the trailer. It's like twenty two minutes, but 1373 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,720 Speaker 1: it's dudes, like we actually building the building, tearing it 1374 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,400 Speaker 1: down and how to building like today, is the trailer 1375 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,680 Speaker 1: posted anywhere online? Are you keeping everything off for now? Yes? Like, 1376 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 1: but like I showed it because you know, yeah, no, 1377 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:39,960 Speaker 1: I w wasn't shoving around because the piece what happened, 1378 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 1: the little piece that everybody saw, because I showed it 1379 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 1: to somebody and they've at least it. So that's how 1380 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: that happened, and it's still out there now. That's that's 1381 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 1: the piece they showed and that's how she end up 1382 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 1: losing the job. Okay, that's the argument is And whatever 1383 01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,679 Speaker 1: taping we're talking bragging about, she got three votes. Yeah, 1384 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,640 Speaker 1: that that's all on the tape. That's on the same one. 1385 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,080 Speaker 1: That's on the tape. That's all that's all feature in 1386 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 1: in that video. You alright, Well, I think we're about 1387 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 1: at a time. But thanks Chico for coming down. Keep 1388 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 1: us updated, Please keep us updated on this Netflix project, man, 1389 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,160 Speaker 1: because you gotta do whatever it takes to get this 1390 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 1: thing done. Man. Yeah, you know it's it's it's gonna happen. 1391 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 1: It's it's powerful before we wrap, and you ain't just 1392 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,720 Speaker 1: gotta do it in comfortable, yeah, but before we wrap, 1393 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:39,040 Speaker 1: do you deal directly as um being part of ag 1394 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,160 Speaker 1: entertainment which is your company A G G Entertainment. Do 1395 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 1: you deal directly with Netflix or do you have to 1396 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: go through a production company? How? How for other people 1397 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,160 Speaker 1: who have ideas and want to produce and want to create, 1398 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 1: how does one get their project on Netflix? Lap This 1399 01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,120 Speaker 1: this the first time I did. But I walk in 1400 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,679 Speaker 1: there with Penny marsh and Mark Wallberg as my executive producers. 1401 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 1: So you know, if you do the work, then you 1402 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,200 Speaker 1: know they want content. You just gotta be some good content, 1403 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,080 Speaker 1: you know. But you can't just walk into the doors 1404 01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 1: of Netflix like you did. The name. Yeah. So a 1405 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 1: lot of people listening to are saying, damn, I don't know. 1406 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,719 Speaker 1: I don't know product Like I got a full flares 1407 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 1: production company like UM editing rooms and all that, like 1408 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 1: Cinema Leebra. I'm the president too at Cinema Lebre Studios. 1409 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,680 Speaker 1: So are you constantly looking for new content all the 1410 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 1: time all the time? Okay, I'm doing some films right now, 1411 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,160 Speaker 1: and you can walk in with the idea and we 1412 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: put it on paper. I have meetings like every Monday, 1413 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,800 Speaker 1: black group of writers that write these stories, and you know, 1414 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 1: we got a full flaed But I mean that distributed 1415 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 1: films too. So how do people get in touch with 1416 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,720 Speaker 1: the who are listening to this podcast right now that 1417 01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,720 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about their content. You can 1418 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,680 Speaker 1: email me at Chico uh C H I C O, 1419 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 1: B R O W and forty nine at gmail dot 1420 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 1: com and then once we talk, then I'll give you 1421 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 1: an OH, you've been all right, ladies and gentlemen. We 1422 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 1: are out of time, but I want to thank everyone 1423 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 1: for listening to another edition of the Gangster Chronicles. Please, 1424 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,800 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this episode on iTunes, rate and 1425 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 1: review us so that we can continue bringing this content. 1426 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 1: And I appreciate everybody that's been listening, and I'm out. 1427 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,760 Speaker 1: This has been a digital Showbuch Network product. Here