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Speaker 1: This This one Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are on a Thursday, one of

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Speaker 2: the best sporting days of the calendar year. The NCAA

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Speaker 2: Tournament is underway. March Madness is off and running, and

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Speaker 2: I couldn't be happier. There's a number of reasons why

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Speaker 2: this tournament is so popular. Obviously the upsets, the buzzer

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Speaker 2: beaters and all that stuff, but it's also a sign

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Speaker 2: that spring is on the horizon. Here. By the time

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Speaker 2: this tournament's over, we're into April, and you feel like

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Speaker 2: the worst of it is behind us. But Steve, I've

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Speaker 2: got another bone to pick that is completely unrelated to

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Speaker 2: the tournament. By the way, I saw a Brandon being upstairs.

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Speaker 2: I wished him and his UNC w Seahawks good luck.

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Speaker 2: UNC Wilmington. That's his alma mater. What is it called,

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Speaker 2: the Sea Dowks See Seahawks Seahawks, Yeah, the UNC Wilmington.

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Speaker 1: See.

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Speaker 2: I said good luck to your Seahawks tonight, and he's

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Speaker 2: looked at me. He goes, it's gonna be a late one.

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Speaker 2: They don't tip until ten ten. That's a rough one.

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Speaker 2: And they're playing and they're also playing Texas Tech, which

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Speaker 2: is not great either, but they had a nice run, so.

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Speaker 1: It's already. Come on, man, march mad.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I could I could have picked up over

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Speaker 3: Texas Tech meaningless three pointer the watch them go in

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Speaker 3: tonight right the other but the other bone to pick

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Speaker 3: for me, Steve, because it is reached.

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Speaker 2: Intolerable proportions. Junk email.

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, you're not even in my league.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you right now the stuff that is

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Speaker 2: just filling my inbox. And I'm not talking about our

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Speaker 2: work emails because fortunately we have all the security safeguards

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Speaker 2: and stuff that weeds that junk out. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm on a pretty big online outfit for my email,

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Speaker 2: and I would say about a quarter of it gets

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Speaker 2: filtered out to spam. I routinely, it's a daily thing now.

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Speaker 2: I just routinely select forty emails that I know are

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Speaker 2: junk and don't even open them. It's just highlight them,

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Speaker 2: delete all at every every day. It's just and if

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Speaker 2: I if I miss two days, it then becomes a

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Speaker 2: ten minute process of I'm wasting ten minutes a day

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Speaker 2: just getting rid of the junk email.

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Speaker 1: I do that. I'm that saying. I don't even I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised at you even think about reading any of those.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't. I just select the least like highlights,

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Speaker 2: left margin, you.

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Speaker 1: Can, I swipe them off.

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Speaker 2: I try to pick them all as a group and

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Speaker 2: then delete all. Here's the other thing. So what I

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Speaker 2: used to do in an effort to try to wean

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Speaker 2: go in unsubscribe. Dude, that doesn't even work anymore. Here's

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Speaker 2: the other thing that you got to watch out for.

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Speaker 2: Because we all know about the scammers out there. They

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Speaker 2: send you stuff like you know your uh, your subscription

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Speaker 2: needs to be renewed for whatever whatever, and you know

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Speaker 2: you look at the sender and you can tell it's

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Speaker 2: a phony email. They're hoping, even if you don't open

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Speaker 2: the email, that you select the unsubscribed button in their

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Speaker 2: junk email, because if you do that, now you're giving

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Speaker 2: them your email without even realizing, you're creating a whole

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Speaker 2: other can of worms that you're opening up by doing that.

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Speaker 1: Well, they already got your email because they sent you

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Speaker 1: the right.

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Speaker 2: But I've seen it. I get ten different things after that.

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Speaker 2: I made that mistake once. So now I just so

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Speaker 2: you can't even unsubscribe half the time, and half the

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Speaker 2: time when you do unsubscribe, it doesn't do anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're like, oh, give us a week and we'll make

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Speaker 2: sure no further emails come to you. It's like a

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Speaker 2: month later, I'm still getting garbage from them. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: I can't do it anymore.

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Speaker 1: I'm totally with you.

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Speaker 2: It's first world problem. It's a minor nuisance, but it's

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Speaker 2: a constant one. It's I spend ten minutes my day

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Speaker 2: every day cleaning out junk in the inbox.

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Speaker 1: I get it. It's terrible. It's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: it is the cost of doing business. I get it.

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Speaker 1: But man, oh man, I if you what a people

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Speaker 2: What do they hope to achieve? Especially the scammers, I

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Speaker 1: But come on, man, you always get those ones where

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Speaker 1: be better? This one's where you've been billed such and such,

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Speaker 1: or the ones that were You're like, well wait a second. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they try and get yeah, try and get you with

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Speaker 1: either a fear tactic of like you build me where money? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: By either taking or giving you money is the two.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we are far advanced from the days of

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Speaker 2: I am a prince in DJIBOUTI. Yeah, and I've learned

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Speaker 2: that you are a descendant of one of our princes

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Speaker 2: that just passed and you're about to inherit eight million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Please contact me. We're long past those days. That's the

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Speaker 2: scammers are far more sophisticated. Didn't you just laugh when

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Speaker 2: you used to get those? I actually missed those a

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Speaker 2: little bit. At least you got to laugh out of those.

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Speaker 1: My mom got a call, and you know, my mom

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Speaker 1: is advanced in years obviously, he's a nonagenarian, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And she got the call from a voice and said, hey, grandma,

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Speaker 1: it's your favorite grandson, O boy, you know, and she

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Speaker 1: tried to, you know, tried to lure my mom in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she went on Matt Lock on him. I was

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Speaker 1: I was proud of her. She didn't she didn't send

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Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, great, So I was proud of her

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Speaker 1: for sniffing it out. But I that is outstanding.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you just got out foxed by a ninety plus

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I got to figure out. I got to

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Speaker 2: figure out a better way. There's no way to streamline that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to streamline that to gobble up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's got to be stuff anyway. There's got to

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Speaker 1: be away. I know there is. They know there is too,

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Speaker 1: and they won't give it to us a way to

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Speaker 1: weed that stuff out. If you don't know, if that

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Speaker 1: to my email unless whatever, you have to do something.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be harder than that, it's yeah, so

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Speaker 1: there's got to be a way.

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Speaker 2: It's like that.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know too, there would be a way,

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants that, yeah, right, because they don't want to

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Speaker 1: you know, people go to jail for that. So they've

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Speaker 1: got that. That's probably out there as well. You can't

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Speaker 1: And you know, old ogs like me would think, why

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Speaker 1: don't they do that? They don't do it? I know,

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Speaker 1: just stop stop junk emails, please.

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Speaker 2: I'd be a happy a much. I think I'd be

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Speaker 2: a much happier person if that was the case.

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Speaker 1: That would be one small thorn out of my side.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if it had changed my life allway.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't change my life. But just what I'm with

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Speaker 2: you to deal with it every day, Mike.

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Speaker 1: It is one of the little nuisances of being a

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Speaker 1: person who has an active email account. Yeah, you know, but.

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Speaker 2: Well I'll deal with it. It's fine. It's just just

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Speaker 2: a minor nuisance. But man, it's every day. We got

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Speaker 2: some Bills news to pass along to you. This is,

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Speaker 2: you know, not like anything major lee breaking. I just

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Speaker 2: thought it was an interesting story to pass along. NFL

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Speaker 2: dot COM's Nick Shook put together a list of players

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Speaker 2: who are still free agents and decided to deem the

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Speaker 2: best fits in terms of team for those players. One

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Speaker 2: Bill's free agent made the list. Cornerback Rusuell Douglas, who

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Speaker 2: Shook believes best fit, is back with the Bills. Here's

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Speaker 2: what he wrote, Douglas is well versed in the nomadic

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Speaker 2: life of an NFL mercenary, even making a few practice

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Speaker 2: squad appearances a few years ago before resurrecting his career

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Speaker 2: as an active member of a roster with the Packers

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Speaker 2: in twenty one. He's shown a kN act for making

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Speaker 2: he plays over the course of his career. Didn't have

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Speaker 2: a great year with the Bills in twenty four, ranking

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Speaker 2: in the hundreds among all corners in PFF's defensive grades.

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Speaker 2: That might suggest he shouldn't re sign with the Bills,

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Speaker 2: but they also need to fill a corner spot or

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Speaker 2: two after trading away Kyer Elam. Bringing back Douglas at

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Speaker 2: I'd imagine a difference in expected market value might drag

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Speaker 2: Cooper's best fit as the Arizona Cardinals. They I mean,

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. But there are short numbers.

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Speaker 1: At the position. Yeah, here's the thing. The teams right now,

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Speaker 1: the teams right now hold the hammer in free agency

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Speaker 1: because players and people a say, aye, he can go

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Speaker 1: you realize, I'm out here because I'm out of work,

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Speaker 1: and you start, you know, the the clocks ticking. You

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna have a place to play, you know it, really,

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Speaker 1: you really are out of work. If you're at a

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Speaker 1: certain level of free agency. It's not you're out there

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Speaker 1: feeling six phone calls a day and they're they're a

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Speaker 1: I imagine it's pretty silent for a lot of these players,

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Speaker 1: and they had a conversation early in the in the process,

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Speaker 1: and the team's probably if they were nice, the teams

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Speaker 1: unless we signed two other guys in free agency and

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Speaker 1: the other list. That's it. It's not all sunshine and

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Speaker 2: This you're not the only option that's right.

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Speaker 1: So you're looking out there and you're thinking, I got,

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Speaker 1: find a team and that's that still has money, right,

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Speaker 1: so the Bill and yeah, so the Bills are sitting

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Speaker 1: there going listen, we'll sign you, but we're not going

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Speaker 1: to sign you until your number is the same as

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Speaker 1: ours and we're not. Our numbers not changing.

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Speaker 2: It's tricky and with each passing day that you wait,

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Speaker 2: teams are using up more and more of their money

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Speaker 2: that's available to them. So there's the pie gets smaller

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Speaker 2: and smaller and smaller. Let's go around the NFL, which

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Speaker 2: Believe Diggs will turn thirty two before the season is

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Speaker 1: If Digs can run like he did, you know before

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's some stuff you got to live with,

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Speaker 2: Yes, but what did we see and he.

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Speaker 1: Killed the Patriots when he was with us?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right. What did we see the last two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say this too. It it's hard for

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Speaker 1: And you know, after an ACL he's he's not going

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Speaker 1: You know, he's he's not gonna and I hate to say,

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Speaker 2: Be probably, and he's thirty one.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be thirty two.

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Speaker 2: So he is and support piece to your past.

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Speaker 1: Now, whether he his his personality and his career and

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Speaker 2: Nothing, right, but I don't know if it's going to

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Speaker 1: I think I'd go back and spend some real time

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is one to file away when we get

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny we don't pay nearly enough attention

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Speaker 1: Here's the Steelers do not have a second round pick?

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Speaker 2: Well then yeah, now you're looking at.

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Speaker 1: They go from twenty one to eighty three. That's a

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Speaker 2: Oh well that's right because they sent their second round

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Speaker 1: So that's Uh, how is.

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Speaker 2: he's certainly happy about that after signing a four year,

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Speaker 1: Dude, that's gonna sue a lot of hurt.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna sue a lot of hurt. But what if

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Speaker 1: Whatever pain he's feeling, or should I say one hundred

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Speaker 2: Just inject the one hundred and fifty into my veins.

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Speaker 1: To get into my veins. I'll be good. I'll make it.

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Speaker 2: Fifty million is more f that's exactly what Oh my god, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Is It's true. We've seen this coming down the pipe. Now,

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Speaker 1: Rob Perkins, Aaron Rodgers is gonna Aaron Rodgers is gonna

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Speaker 2: Don't Jukie walks away. You don't even think that's a

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Speaker 2: don't like that situation of like that situation. That's all

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Speaker 2: I got to choose from. I'm going on mayahuasca, ayahuasca.

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Speaker 1: Think the guy we've seen and experience with the New

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he can right probably can't.

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Speaker 1: Bless his heart if he can, but that does that

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Speaker 1: would be that would be like I'll say, let's just

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Speaker 1: I say he may do this.

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Speaker 2: He'll threaten to walk away.

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Speaker 1: Or he'll say I'm ready to play if you need me,

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Speaker 1: Oh see, leave leave the door open. He'll say, I'm

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Speaker 1: That's in the NFL. You never get to play quarterback again.

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Speaker 1: You can say an executive of your own company, as

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Speaker 1: and that's in the NFL. And there's nothing like doing that. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: So you might want to squeeze out every last drop

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I think because I'm sitting here, we don't have

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Speaker 2: Well. Cam Newton saw it that way also, but he

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Speaker 1: Well, he was playing for New England and that's a

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Speaker 2: He's also throwing bounce passes on ten yard outs. Rogers

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Speaker 1: That's right. I still think he's got something in him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, we'll see where he ends up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he will end up somewhat New York.

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Speaker 2: No, Cleveland's still trying to figure their situation out, although

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, who's who's playing quarterback

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Speaker 2: Last summer was like the summer of joint practice injuries.

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Speaker 1: Haven't done that in a year or two, have they?

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Speaker 2: No, No, they have not. They did it with twenty

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was so hot. Yeah. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like you had to bring towel with you

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Speaker 2: People were ready to pay money for spots in the shade.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that. It was is brutal.

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Speaker 2: It was blistering.

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Speaker 1: It was blistering and humid.

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Speaker 2: So that's the word.

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Speaker 1: But it didn't seem like it was uh, I mean

437
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Speaker 1: it didn't seem contentious. I don't think we got anybody nicked.

438
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Speaker 2: No, there are a couple of shoving matches like you'd expect,

439
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: especially when the heats like that. Yeah, but there was nothing.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was you had two head coaches at

442
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Speaker 2: the time that respected one another and then they demanded

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Speaker 2: that of their team.

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Speaker 1: Plus both head coaches had been with one of the

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Speaker 1: teams two years prior. Yeah, right, I mean McDermott was

446
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Speaker 1: there in twenty sixteen. He was the defensive coordinator, so

447
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Speaker 1: that he had a lot of Yeah, so there's a

448
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Speaker 1: lot of crossover there, So I'm that's different, Yes, but

449
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Speaker 1: I get it though, I mean it.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see, like, did the same number of

451
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Speaker 2: teams undertake it feel there's enough value in it, or

452
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Speaker 2: where the injuries kind of a.

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Speaker 1: Detendent it more. It is becoming a really delicate balance

454
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Speaker 1: in the preseason. How much do you play if you're

455
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Speaker 1: not gonna have if you're not going to have joint practices,

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Speaker 1: and you remember it was it's been a thing where

457
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Speaker 1: you have a couple of days of joint practice then

458
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Speaker 1: the game, right, But if you're not gonna have any

459
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Speaker 1: joint practices. Don't you really have to give your guys

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Speaker 1: some reps in those games?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think you do. And look there's a team that

463
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Speaker 2: takes it to the extreme the other way. I mean,

464
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Speaker 2: we know that, you know, the Rams don't play Stafford

465
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Speaker 2: anywhere in the preseason. The Bengals don't play anybody, and

466
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Speaker 2: they routinely get off to zero to two, one and

467
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Speaker 2: three starts. Are they going to change their stripes? No

468
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Speaker 2: pun intended, because they're the Bengals, But are they going

469
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Speaker 2: to change their approach to preseason games because every year

470
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Speaker 2: they're slow out of the gate and they're playing ketchup?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every year? Right, Well, you know the Bills were

472
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Speaker 1: three and oh out of the gate, then they went

473
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Speaker 1: three and two after they played got beat by Houston

474
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Speaker 1: and or Baltimore, Hughes and respectively. But then they went on,

475
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: you know, like a huge win streak that they got on.

476
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Speaker 1: The Bills have notoriously got off to fast starts, so

477
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Speaker 1: you got to think they kind of handle it the

478
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Speaker 1: right way. Some of it has to do with the

479
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: way your team's constructed, where your leadership is, how much

480
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Speaker 1: they want to play, what they say about it, how

481
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Speaker 1: they play out of the shoot. Do they need reps

482
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Speaker 1: in the preseason Some guys, some veterans do, some don't.

483
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Speaker 1: Having your finger on the pulse of each individual player

484
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Speaker 1: is really difficult to just seems mcdermot's got that going

485
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Speaker 1: because they they have always gotten out to three wins

486
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Speaker 1: out of their first four games or something like that,

487
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Speaker 1: and sometimes better than that. So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And our good people in the control room are reminding

489
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Speaker 2: us about the joint practice they had last year with

490
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Speaker 2: the Steelers the day or two before the actual preseason

491
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Speaker 2: game against the Steelers in Pittsburgh just last summer. Right,

492
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Speaker 2: it was a one day kind of deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that went.

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Speaker 2: That seemed to go well, right, Well, again, two head

495
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Speaker 2: coaches that know and respect each other hair in alma mater,

496
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Speaker 2: you know, have a firm grasp on or deliver a

497
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: firm idea of what's expected of them. Nobody's allowed to

498
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: act like a moron, right, and you know, for all

499
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Speaker 2: intensive purposes, it went well.

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Speaker 1: But it's amazing that you go back all the way

501
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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty, the Bills have been at least three

502
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Speaker 1: and one in their first four games every single year,

503
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Speaker 1: and sometimes better. There were four to zero and twenty twenty.

504
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one they were four and one after

505
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Speaker 1: losing their opening.

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Speaker 2: They know how to come out of the shoot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In twenty two they were five. Well, they were

508
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Speaker 1: guy six and one coming out of the gate in

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Speaker 1: twenty two. Twenty three was a little different. Twenty three

510
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Speaker 1: was yeah, it was four. It was three and one.

511
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Speaker 1: They lost the Jets coming out of the gate, but

512
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: they won three in a row, lost to Jacksonville then one. Yeah,

513
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: that's when they went win lost win loss, win loss

514
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Speaker 1: win loss. Yeah, in twenty three, but they were three

515
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Speaker 1: and one coming out of the gate, so they've the

516
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Speaker 1: first month of the season is always gone well for them,

517
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Speaker 1: which kind of we said this the other day when

518
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Speaker 1: the when the suspensions came out for Hoyt and Ogunjobi,

519
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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, Eh, they'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll figure it out. And I getting the preseason

522
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: right is not nothing to me. It's not nothing. And

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Speaker 1: the Bills have gotten like I said, they have done

524
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: it well. Some teams don't. Yeah, And these joint practices

525
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: and the preseason games, I mean, you gotta it really

526
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: is an individual player by player by player by player decision.

527
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Speaker 1: Who plays, Who's who doesn't and how much and it's

528
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Speaker 1: always a risk.

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Speaker 2: We have Maddi Glabb coming up a little bit later

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Speaker 2: on in the show. She'll be joining us in the

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Speaker 2: second hour with the latest edition of the Mock Draft Watch.

532
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Speaker 2: She pours over all the mock drafts that are out

533
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Speaker 2: there in cyberspace and lets us know who the most

534
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Speaker 2: popular players are for the Bills at thirty So we'll

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Speaker 2: catch up with her an hour number two. And since

536
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Speaker 2: we are talking draft today, we thought that should also

537
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Speaker 2: be part of our topic of discussion today, which is

538
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Speaker 2: which position will account for the most Bills draft picks

539
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Speaker 2: this year? You let us know at eight h three

540
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: zero five to fifty one eighty eight, five point fifty

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Speaker 2: two five fifty the numbers to get on board. I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of us believe it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a defense heavy draft. The Bills have ten picks. They

544
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Speaker 2: may not end up with ten, maybe it's only eight

545
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Speaker 2: if they move around the board a little bit. But

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Speaker 2: I think the majority of us believe this is going

547
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Speaker 2: to be a defense heavy draft class. So with that

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Speaker 2: in mind, which position do you think will account for

549
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Speaker 2: the most Bills draft picks this year? And I think

550
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: we have to separate defensive tackle from defensive end.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, can't just say D line and

552
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: you can't say dB either. I mean safety and corner

553
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Speaker 1: are going to be two different positions. I'm still think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be defensive line because of what because

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Speaker 1: of the bird's eye view, Brownie's kind of turned me

556
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Speaker 1: onto this. They want to have some guys in the

557
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: pipeline because Epanessa's in his last year and you got

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Speaker 1: a couple of one year deals and they're going to

559
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: be back right back to this and this last two years,

560
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: they've been bereft of anybody on the roster when the

561
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: league year ends or when the season ends because everybody's

562
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Speaker 1: contracts up. So they'll have you know, Javon Solomon and

563
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Speaker 1: these guys in the pipeline as well as these draft

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Speaker 1: picks whatever they have there. So I think it might

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Speaker 1: be defensive tackle this year, maybe defensive end, one of

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Speaker 1: those two, and it'll depend on how the board falls

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Speaker 1: as to which one it is. I'm I think they're interchangeable.

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Speaker 2: For me, which last year, and believe it or not,

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Speaker 2: the most popular position was offensive line. Now they were

570
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Speaker 2: all Day three picks, but Cedric Van Prang, Grainger, Tyland Grable,

571
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Speaker 2: and Travis Clayton the UK Kid, all offensive linemen. So

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Speaker 2: that was the position that ruled the roost last year.

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Speaker 2: You tell us which position will account for the most

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Speaker 2: Bills draft picks this year? Open lines for you at

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Speaker 2: eight h three zero five to fifty one eight at

576
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Speaker 2: eight five, fifty two five fifty the numbers to join

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Speaker 2: us or hit us up on the tweet sheet at

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. We'll take a break here, but take

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Speaker 2: your phone calls next.

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Speaker 5: Stay with us.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on a Thursday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, which position will account

583
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Speaker 2: for the most Bills draft picks this year? We all

584
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Speaker 2: have our position preferences as to what we'd like to

585
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: see the Bills addressed in the draft with their ten selections.

586
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: They had ten selections last year, used them all went

587
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Speaker 2: five on offense, five on defense, three offensive line, and

588
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: selected that was the most popular position last year. You

589
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: know what the most popular position was the year before that?

590
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Speaker 2: It was the offensive line again. Oh, because they drafted

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Speaker 2: Osiris Torrance. Oh yeah, and then they took Nick Broker,

592
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Speaker 2: the guard from Old Miss late in the draft and

593
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: then he got poached by the Houston Texans from our

594
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: practice squad, as has tended to happen more than I

595
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 2: would like to see. I can't imagine how much that

596
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: grinds the gears of Brandon Bean in the personnel department.

597
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Speaker 2: Like you make a good late round, Picky, He's not

598
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Speaker 2: quite good enough to make your roster because you have

599
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Speaker 2: an A plus roster, so you put him on your

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Speaker 2: practice squad, and then you watch some other team with

601
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Speaker 2: not nearly as good a roster be all too happy

602
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Speaker 2: to take him and put him on their fifty three man.

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Speaker 1: That would bother me. Yeah, it's a yeah, you get

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Speaker 1: all the Yeah, you get a team who absolutely crushes

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Speaker 1: their draft or you know, gets as good as players

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Speaker 1: as you can get, and everybody else gets their shot

607
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Speaker 1: at him. Yeah that stinks. I mean, I'm you vet

608
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: these guys better than everybody, and then everybody post.

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Speaker 2: It's like everybody takes advantage.

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Speaker 1: Everybody takes advantage of your Yeah, your good sense. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that bothers that stinks.

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Speaker 2: But who am I to say, I'm not even part

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Speaker 2: of the process there, but you let us know. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you. Steve kind of gave his take on this,

615
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Speaker 2: I tend to think it's down to two positions as

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Speaker 2: to what could win the day here in terms of

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Speaker 2: the most number of players picked at a given position

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Speaker 2: for the Bills with the ten picks they have. First

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Speaker 2: of all, I don't think they're going to have ten

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Speaker 2: picks when it's done. I kind of envisioned them having

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Speaker 2: more of eight. I think Brandon's going to do a

622
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Speaker 2: little moving around the board, so I think eight is likely.

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Speaker 2: And then I think it's down to two spots. I

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Speaker 2: think it's either going to be defensive tackle or corner,

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Speaker 2: because I could easily see them, at least as the

626
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: roster is constituted now, them drafting two corners in this

627
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Speaker 2: draft or drafting two defensive tackles in this draft, and

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Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, they might have two of

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Speaker 2: each by the time it's done. Just from a sheer

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Speaker 2: numbers perspective, corner is a thin position right now, and

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Speaker 2: so too is defensive tackle when you lump in the

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Speaker 2: fact that Ogunjobi is going to miss the first six

633
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Speaker 2: game of the season on suspension. So I could see

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Speaker 2: them going two and two on both those positions, right

635
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Speaker 2: because they need numbers and you need cheap labor too

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Speaker 2: with your cast.

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Speaker 1: And this draft is heavy in those players D line, edge, tackles,

638
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: and edge. Yeah, you could make a case for corner,

639
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: although you got one quality starting corner and you're really

640
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: looking just for one more guy, right. You do want

641
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: to cast a wide net though, and just in case,

642
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: particularly drafting thirtieth, because every guy you pick up in

643
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Speaker 1: the draft is gonna have question marks about him.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and the corner. You signed Dan Jackson one

645
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Speaker 2: year deal and.

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Speaker 1: He's a known commodity too, and you're and you know

647
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: here he was a backup the first time around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a depth piece, I think.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, like if you want a guy that, if

650
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Speaker 1: you want a guy that you can like write him

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Speaker 1: an ink on the lineup every every seat, you're going

652
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Speaker 1: to do that at at least at thirtieth. He didn't

653
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Speaker 1: have to do that with Benford. But I don't know,

654
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Speaker 1: you know, I can't count on having that happen again, right,

655
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Speaker 1: I'm the guys that are rare, I'll say it again.

656
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: The guys that are rare are the big dudes. You

657
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Speaker 1: got to get them when you can get them, and

658
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: get the right guy.

659
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Speaker 2: And it's an uncommonly deep class at defensive tackle this year,

660
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 2: so all the more reason to get one early scoop

661
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Speaker 2: up another one later. And as we know, the Bills

662
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: have drafted more than one corner in a single class before.

663
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Speaker 2: They did it with Elam and Benford a few years ago,

664
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Speaker 2: so that's not out of the realm of possibility either.

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Speaker 2: And it's considered a good cornerback class. I don't know

666
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Speaker 2: if it's a great cornerback class, but certainly good enough

667
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Speaker 2: to scoop up some talent that hopefully is good enough

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Speaker 2: to play in your lineup in year one. Maybe not

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Speaker 2: week one, but maybe by week seven or eight they're

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Speaker 2: working their way into the lineup. That would be nice.

671
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Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I see it. I think

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Speaker 2: it's corner or defensive tackle. Did you let us know

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Speaker 2: what you think? Eight o three to zero, five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty. Is there

675
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Speaker 2: any outlier, dark horse kind of position you could see

676
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Speaker 2: possibly winning the day?

677
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Speaker 1: Safety?

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Speaker 2: Safety? Okay, I think they'll take at least one, And

679
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: once again, you're talking about a team with guys at

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Speaker 2: that position, but they're on one year contracts.

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Speaker 1: It might be that even if you take two players

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Speaker 1: at one position. That's the most. You know, they're not

683
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Speaker 1: going to take three safeties.

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Speaker 2: I know that, but no, but you got Demor Hamlin

685
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Speaker 2: re signed on one year deal. He signed Derek Forrest

686
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: away from Washington one year deal. And you've got Cam

687
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Speaker 2: Johnson or Cam Johnson. Cam Lewis entering the last year

688
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: of his contract this year. He had he resigned for

689
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Speaker 2: a two year deal last year.

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Speaker 1: You got to feel like too, Damar cam Lewis. I

691
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Speaker 1: don't know about Forrest. We haven't seen anything about the

692
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Speaker 1: wrap Taylor Rap. You got to feel like the guys,

693
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Speaker 1: even the guys you draft in the fifth, sixth round,

694
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Speaker 1: are going to come in and compete. They're gonna have

695
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Speaker 1: the athleticism to come in and compete with those guys

696
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Speaker 1: to start. It'll, you know, like we talked about a lot,

697
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whether they can do it mentally

698
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Speaker 1: and earn the trust of a coaching staff at safety

699
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Speaker 1: as a rookie, which is hard to do.

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Speaker 2: I mean that position has a lot of responsibility in

701
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Speaker 2: this scheme as well.

702
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Speaker 1: But even so, athletically, anybody you draft in this in

703
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Speaker 1: this draft is going to be on par with what's

704
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Speaker 1: already in the room athletically, you know, experience does count though,

705
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Speaker 1: but they're going to come in and compete if you draft,

706
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Speaker 1: you know, if you get safeties off the board, depending

707
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: on what round they're in, that's how high they go.

708
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Speaker 2: And I know we discussed this to some degree in

709
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Speaker 2: our podcast which will be out later today, latest edition

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Speaker 2: of Bills by the Numbers, But I think there's a

711
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Speaker 2: pretty good chance that the value will be good for

712
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Speaker 2: a team like the Bills in terms of where they

713
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Speaker 2: pick at a position like safety, because a lot of

714
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Speaker 2: the higher priority positions, as we know, get ticked off

715
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: the board first, and so what falls to you in

716
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: essence is higher rated talent at maybe the non premium

717
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: positions like safety for example, or linebacker or you know,

718
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: guard or whatever, or even running back. So yeah, I

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00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: mean I could safety is a good dark horse pick. Steve,

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Speaker 2: well done, Thank you. That was that was very good

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Speaker 2: by you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three oh five fifty one, eight eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty Those are the numbers to get

725
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Speaker 2: on board. As we told you, we're going to be

726
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Speaker 2: joined by Maddie Glab in the second hour of the show.

727
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Speaker 2: We're gonna do a little mock Draft Watch. It's been

728
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Speaker 2: a minute. We've been so busy with free agency, we

729
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: haven't really been able to put our ear to the

730
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Speaker 2: ground with mock Draft Watch, which appears on Buffalo bills

731
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Speaker 2: dot Com every Friday leading up to the draft, and

732
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Speaker 2: then Maddie comes on the show with us to kind

733
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Speaker 2: of bring us up to speed as to what will

734
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Speaker 2: be revealed on Buffalo bills dot Com at the end

735
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: of every week in terms of the most popular picks

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Speaker 2: for the Bills. So we look forward to that conversation

737
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Speaker 2: in hour number two. But I just kind of see,

738
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Speaker 2: let's look at it this way, Steve. So we've got

739
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Speaker 2: position preferences as to what we feel will rule the

740
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Speaker 2: day in terms of the most popular position. You mentioned

741
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Speaker 2: Ed Rusher, I said, defensive tackle or corner. What about

742
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: offense versus defense? With this slew of draft picks, I

743
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: think we feel it's going to be heavy defense.

744
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: But to what degree if we go if it we've

745
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: ten picks, if we make all those picks bare minimum

746
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Speaker 1: six defenders probably more probably more bare minimum six because

747
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Speaker 1: when you get into the fourth now they won't have

748
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Speaker 1: any seventh rounders, but you get into the sixth round,

749
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Speaker 1: fifth and sixth round.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's where half the picks are.

751
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: The blind Yeah, the blinders come off, and you're going

752
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Speaker 1: to pick a guy because you're not going to pick

753
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: a guy who you know has no shot at making

754
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: your club, even if he is at a crucial position

755
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: that you need, you're just gonna you're not gonna do it.

756
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: So you're gonna So that's when the offense defense blinders

757
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: kind of come off. So I you know, later on,

758
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: like last year, they're picking an offensive lineman, that's what's

759
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: going to happen. Because they have so many picks later

760
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: in the draft, you can't really say, yeah, all ten,

761
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Speaker 1: all ten picks are going to be defense. It's gonna

762
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Speaker 1: you know, not allow. It's just not gonna happen that way.

763
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Speaker 1: So I'm you know, they've got picks oh, one, o, one,

764
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Speaker 1: oh six. I think it is.

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Speaker 2: So in round four, right, so it's.

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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, six is the number. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say seven because I think they recognize

768
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Speaker 2: and I believe with the added incentive of knowing you're

769
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Speaker 2: not going to have two of your free agent signees

770
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Speaker 2: for the first month and a half of the season,

771
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Speaker 2: I think prompts the Bills to maybe make an additional

772
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Speaker 2: pick or two on the defensive side of the ball,

773
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Speaker 2: just by virtue of the fact that you're not going

774
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Speaker 2: to have those two players for what amount to the

775
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Speaker 2: first third of the season. I think that's a big

776
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: chunk of time that you want to have accounted for

777
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: in terms of player numbers at the position. You don't

778
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: want to just be throwing out, you know, some Joe

779
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: blow player. You want somebody that's gonna be able to

780
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: stem the tide and not have much of a drop

781
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Speaker 2: off if you can possibly do it. And I think

782
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Speaker 2: with the depth of this class at defensive tackle, I

783
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Speaker 2: don't think that's an insurmountable task.

784
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Speaker 1: Right.

785
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Speaker 2: Yes, you're drafting late, think about it.

786
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Speaker 1: You can play it stands right now, they've got four

787
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Speaker 1: picks between one sixty nine, one seventy one, seventy three

788
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Speaker 1: and one seventy seven. That's four picks and like in

789
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: eight spots. So they're not gonna I don't know that

790
00:41:53,880 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna. You're not gonna double down on those spots, right, So, yeah,

791
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: you're not. It's going to be hard to get so

792
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: many defensive sided players, even at the positions you need

793
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: that deep in the draft, it's just you got to

794
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: take the best player. You got to take the best player.

795
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Speaker 2: And while I subscribe to that philosophically, if you're if

796
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 2: you're remotely close between two positions and the need position

797
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: and need positions one of them, you gotta lean that way.

798
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Speaker 1: But think about this though, that you're talking about starting

799
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Speaker 1: at one pick one sixty nine, you're already going to

800
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Speaker 1: have made five picks well, right, so that will alleviate

801
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: some of the desperation if you are feeling that desperation

802
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: for that side of the ball. I mean, that'll alleviate

803
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: some of those first five picks, right So, and you'll

804
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: feel really good about a couple of those, at least

805
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: three of them. So, yeah, you get into that one

806
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: sixty nine, one seventy one, seventy three, one to seventy seven.

807
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: Who cares where they're at, I mean, come on, So

808
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: it's hard to sit here and say yes. And we

809
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: do it all the time. We have every caller after

810
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: callers like I will take a wide out and then

811
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: nine defenders, you know, like okay, yeah, it's not gonna

812
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: happen like that.

813
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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. When we come back, we'll

814
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Speaker 2: take a peek at the tweet sheet. Let you know

815
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Speaker 2: what your thoughts are on which position will account for

816
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Speaker 2: the most draft picks for the Bills this year? Aight, O,

817
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Speaker 2: threeh five fifty. We're back with some of those thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Next here on One Bill's Live, presented by coll Out

819
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Speaker 2: of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, which position

820
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: will account for the most Bills draft picks this year?

821
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: You let us know it, Ato three five fifty. Let's

822
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: go right to the phones and to Kim in Angola.

823
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Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Kim, you're on one

824
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Speaker 2: Bills Live.

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, gentlemen. How are you good?

826
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Speaker 1: Great?

827
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do that the defense is going to be

828
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Speaker 4: the number one and I think they built did a

829
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 4: pretty good job on free agency so far. The only

830
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Speaker 4: thing that heard them, in my opinion, is the two

831
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Speaker 4: guys that are on six game suspensions. Now, the positions

832
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Speaker 4: I think the Bills need are They're probably going to

833
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: draft the DT, but he's got to be as big

834
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Speaker 4: as a former Bill Ted Washington. You can't have. You

835
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Speaker 4: got to have an unmovable object in there. And the

836
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Speaker 4: other positions. I believe we need to draft at least

837
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Speaker 4: one more cornerback, and but we need to concentrate on safeties.

838
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 4: It seems like our starting safeties get injured a lot

839
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Speaker 4: and they miss games and we need bodies back there.

840
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 4: All well, yeah, very much so. So anyways, I appreciate

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Speaker 4: uh listening to you guys on the radio, and I'm

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00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 4: gonna hang up and listen to you.

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Speaker 1: Now you're thinking, yeah, yeah, the only Yeah, the six

844
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Speaker 1: game suspensions are flying the ointment. I don't think it

845
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: changes their plans in the big picture. I think they

846
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: feel like they'll be able to absorb those the same

847
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 1: way they would if they were both out six weeks

848
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Speaker 1: with an injury, because they're going to practice through preseason

849
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: and the preseason games, and they'll probably get a lot

850
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: of reps in those preseason games actually, because they're going

851
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: to go on the shelf for six weeks. Defensive tackle, Yes,

852
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 1: it would be nice to get a guy like Ted

853
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: Teddy Washington was one of a kind. I hate to

854
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: say it, like that, Bruce Leeve. You ain't gonna find

855
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: Ted with Washington in this draft.

856
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Speaker 2: I mean, there are wide bodies in this draft that

857
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: are rated pretty highly, but you're talking about a guy

858
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: that probably should merit more. Hall of fame consideration. For

859
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: as effective as he was, for as long as he was,

860
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Speaker 2: I'll played twenty one seasons.

861
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Speaker 1: He was never outside of the top five and run defense.

862
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: On any defense that he played for, they were never

863
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: outside of the top five in run defense in twenty

864
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Speaker 1: one seasons. He was a first round draft pick by

865
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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers. He was big time talent,

866
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: and yes, if you can find a guy like him,

867
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: obviously you take him if he's on the board. He

868
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: was a one of a kind though, So good luck

869
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: with that corner. Yeah, at least one, sure, at least one, Yeah,

870
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: maybe maybe two. And safeties. I'm with you. I'm with

871
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: you one hundred percent. I think you're right on Ken.

872
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a defensive tackle, probably more than one.

873
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: You probably come out of this draft with an edge guy.

874
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna come out of this draft with a corner,

875
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: at least a corner and at least a safety, if

876
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: not one or two of either one or both.

877
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: Let's go to Alex in Charlotte next. What's up, Alex?

878
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, how you doing good?

879
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: Hey?

880
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 6: It was interesting you brought up the joint practice in Spartanburg.

881
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 6: I actually took my newborn son down there, and with

882
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 6: the heat and humidity, we did not last long.

883
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 4: But it was not weak buddy.

884
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, to answer your question, I think it's going to

885
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 6: be corner as well.

886
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

887
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 6: Brandon Bean typically shows us what the plan is through

888
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 6: free agency and that's been heavy on the D line

889
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 6: with the additions of Hoyt Bosa and Ogunjobi. I do

890
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 6: think we're going to draft some D line and but

891
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be spread out between tackle

892
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 6: and ed rusher, maybe one apiece, but corner, we we

893
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 6: got to start figuring some things out preparing for some

894
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 6: people to leave. As you guys mentioned, Dan Jackson's at

895
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 6: this point in his career more more depth than anything else.

896
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 6: And I'd hate to know what's going to happen if

897
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 6: we lose Benford, if we can't get him under contract.

898
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 6: But we we need not just depth, we need playable

899
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 6: depth at corners.

900
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the difference, Alex, Yeah, yeah, right, I

901
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: mean that's the difference. You need you need some higher

902
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: end players.

903
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: You need some higher end NFL play at that spot

904
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: more so than you do down inside. Right now, you've

905
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: got guys that can play, you can't you wouldn't be

906
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: able to row to hate him as they have in

907
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: the past. With the with where they're at right now. Now, well,

908
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: when those guys come back, you can you know, when

909
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: Oguin Jobi is there and Hoyt is there and you

910
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: mix them in with Ed and dey Kwon, Yeah, you

911
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: got four pretty good guys right there. But so you

912
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: can go the difference is at corner. You know, you

913
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: don't have anybody there that's been on the field a

914
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: ton and started very many games. And that's you've got

915
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: to have guys like that. You gotta have guys like that.

916
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: Let's squeeze in Dave and Buffalo here before the break.

917
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 7: What's up, Dave, Hi, thanks for taking my call. Sure,

918
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 7: I think there's good news and there's bad news. The

919
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 7: good news for the Bills is that they've done such

920
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 7: a good job at building out the roster that they

921
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 7: really can't go for the best player available virtually regardless

922
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 7: of position. They have a number of different ways so

923
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 7: they can improve the team, like building from the inside.

924
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 7: The guys Cam Lewis and folks who are on the

925
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 7: rock that might even fit the DV need depending on

926
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 7: where they are in development to the draft and free

927
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 7: agency and things like that, But overall, I'm really instructed

928
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 7: by some past history. There's a draft where I think

929
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 7: it was two thousand and six where we had a

930
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 7: clear dteny just like now, and we took John McCargo,

931
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 7: who was a really well regarded player in the first round,

932
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 7: but then ended up taking this guy named Kyle Williams

933
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 7: in the fifth round. And actually, as it turned out,

934
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 7: Williams was actually the lifelong Bill and a great player

935
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 7: and somebody that we loved. And the Cargo pick is

936
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 7: you know, I think went to the Bearers or someplace

937
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 7: after that. So overall, you know, I think it's really

938
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 7: it just shows how much of a craft shoot the

939
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 7: draft is where you can pick someone like a Kyrie

940
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 7: Elam with the first round and then you know, with

941
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 7: a Christian Benfer in the same draft in the sixth

942
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 7: round who ends up being your your go to starter

943
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 7: and things like that. So it's a crap shoot.

944
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a little bit, I think most you

945
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: can you point at that, and and you're right, Tom Cargo,

946
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams, Benford Elam, those are really the exceptions rather

947
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: than the rule, But they do happen, and they happen

948
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: to everybody, right, It has been in decades past, not

949
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: so much in the current climate in the NFL, but

950
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: it has happened in decades past, where you draft a

951
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 1: guy high, you play him no matter what, no matter

952
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: if the guy's better. He just didn't do it any

953
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: other way. Now, it's not so prevalent the best guy

954
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: plays because it means something to the other fifty three

955
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: guys in the locker room. When they know you're playing

956
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: a guy that shouldn't be playing ahead of another guy.

957
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: That's a that's a problem. That is a problem, and

958
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: teams realize it. So if they blow it on a

959
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: draft pick, they you know, they take their medicine, play

960
00:50:54,760 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: the better guy and move on. It does happen or

961
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: are It is a crapshoot to a certain extent, But

962
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: that's what all this work is, you know they're doing.

963
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: And that's you know, conversations we have here on the

964
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: air every day. You know, you gotta take a stack,

965
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: you gotta you're gonna draft somebody. You gotta draft somebody,

966
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: try and find the right guy.

967
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, the mock drafts have been trying to

968
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 2: find the right guy for the Bills. Ad picked thirty

969
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: and compiling any and all of those choices is our

970
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 2: colleague Matty Glebs. She will join us in our number

971
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: two to lay out who have been the most popular

972
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: selections and at what position. We'll get to that when

973
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 2: we returned with Matty.

974
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 4: Next.

975
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: Here on one Bills Live presented by Colid of Health,

976
00:51:40,520 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

977
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 4: One.

978
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. At hour two.

979
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: Here on a Thursday, Chris Brownstein past joined in studio

980
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: by Bill's reporter Mandy Glab, who this time of year

981
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: has a sole focus, and it is the mock drafts

982
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: in cyberspace, soup to nuts, all over them, covering them all,

983
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: compiling them all. The Excel spreadsheet is in full effect

984
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 2: right now.

985
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 8: I have it open right now. You guys are worried

986
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 8: about the march madness brackets, I'm worried about the mock drafts.

987
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: Fun, fun, fun, let's go So all right, why don't

988
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: you just give us an overview here first? I guess

989
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: before we get to names, is there an overriding position

990
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: that is ruling pick thirty for them?

991
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: Right?

992
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 8: So, I've tracked about sixty so far, and I want

993
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 8: to say, right off the bat. We started tracking them

994
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 8: after the season was over, so think late January and

995
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 8: right off the bat, we saw a lot of defensive

996
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 8: linemen getting mocked to the Bills. After free agency, the

997
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 8: first wave of free agency, you usually start to see

998
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 8: a shift because the roster picture starts to become a

999
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 8: little bit more clear. Defensive tackles are still getting mocked

1000
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 8: to the Bills at a very high rate post first

1001
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 8: wave of free agency. So the favorite position group is

1002
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 8: defensive line. Out of the sixty we have tracked, thirty

1003
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 8: one times, a defensive lineman is heading to Buffalo with

1004
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 8: a thirtieth overall pick. If you break it down between

1005
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 8: defensive tackles and edge rushers, twenty three defensive tackles to

1006
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 8: eight edge rushers, heavy heavy detackle. Next up is cornerback.

1007
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 8: Cornerback has been mocked to Buffalo thirteen different times, so

1008
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 8: we are starting to see safeties and cornerbacks and defensive

1009
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 8: tackles seem like that is the favorite post the first

1010
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 8: wave of free agency. Wide receiver is not far behind.

1011
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 8: Eight times. Wide receiver is in third place right now.

1012
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: It's right up there, I'll tell you. In jeez, yeah,

1013
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: even these national guys. All they do is tune into

1014
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: one Bills Live and listen to our show, and that's

1015
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: where they make it.

1016
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 9: That's where they get all there we've been talking about.

1017
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 9: That's all about us, know what we're talking about exactly,

1018
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 9: but that's exactly the way our show has gone.

1019
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: It's all about defensive tackles, defensive ends or safeties or

1020
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: corners or whatever. And you know, and the occasional wide

1021
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: receiver gets thrown in as a you know, so in

1022
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: case that everybody eats mantra goes different. That's where we're at.

1023
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: But Steve and I were talking about this though, Maddie,

1024
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: because there is some belief that and history will tell

1025
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: us this is probably true too, that the big guys

1026
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 2: usually go early. And knowing that and knowing the Bills

1027
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: are picking thirty, the value could very well be at

1028
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: corner or safety. So I'm not terribly surprised that you're

1029
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: telling me that those two are growing in popularity.

1030
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're seeing players like Malachi Starks, Nick Emon Worri

1031
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 8: trey Amos round Now some of the names that I'm

1032
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 8: seeing being mocked to. Buffalo trey Amos has been mocked

1033
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 8: to the Bills twice in the last like fifteen that

1034
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 8: I've tracked, so he's become a name that's popped up

1035
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 8: a little bit more. Out of defensive backs, the favorite

1036
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 8: is nick Emon Worri right now being mocked to Buffaloes

1037
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 8: five times.

1038
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: Would you say more of these safety corner have come

1039
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks here or were they

1040
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: spread throughout your info gathering process.

1041
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 8: They've been spread throughout. I am seeing if we bunch

1042
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 8: them together in defensive backs and combine the two, we're

1043
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 8: seeing more defensive backs be mocked to buffalo post the

1044
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 8: first wave.

1045
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: Of free well, yeah, and you draft and you sign Bosa,

1046
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: Ogunjobi and Hoyt and it's like, okay, now they're full.

1047
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 8: Right now, it's defensive tackle, safety and cornerback is what

1048
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 8: we're seeing a lot of since like March tenth, I'll say,

1049
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 8: is the latest ones.

1050
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: When you look at some of these website, I'm thinking

1051
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: that the value is gonna like Brownie said, corner is

1052
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 1: gonna be there's gonna be some value on the board

1053
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: when you get to thirtieth and there's gonna be some value.

1054
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: It's safety because it's hard and I'm gonna go back

1055
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: and look, if I can to see how many safeties

1056
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: get picked on average in the first round, there's three

1057
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: of them that are really good. This nick emun worry

1058
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: that we've been talking about. Malachi Starks, of course what

1059
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: we've been talking about, and then Xavier Watts as well.

1060
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: Those three guys, to me are guys that are going

1061
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: to push to start right out of the gate. And gosh,

1062
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking one of them is

1063
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: not going to be there. I know, and but like

1064
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: not a single one of those three guys.

1065
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 8: You think about when a run on and position is

1066
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 8: going to start, and Brownie you mentioned it, the big

1067
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 8: guys usually go early. If Buffalo deems like we need

1068
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 8: another defensive tackle because we have one that's gonna miss

1069
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 8: the first six games of the season, maybe they decide

1070
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 8: to move with when the run on defensive tackles begins,

1071
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 8: they decide to move up to go get one of

1072
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 8: those defensive tackles. Or maybe safety and cornerback is going

1073
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 8: to look great because everybody's busy taking a defensive tackle

1074
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 8: to where some of these safeties and corners get pushed

1075
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 8: down a few picks.

1076
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: And then well then you got to figure out too,

1077
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: if the Bills are gonna pick at what is it,

1078
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: fifty six and sixty two? They might think, you know,

1079
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: if we wait, we're gonna be okay back there getting

1080
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: one of these other guys that we have, you know

1081
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1082
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: They're gonna look at their board and see they're gonna

1083
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: look at their board.

1084
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: And they're gonna say, you know, when he gets this

1085
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: fifty six and sixty two, we're still gonna be sitting

1086
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: pretty on this other's position. So let's grab it now.

1087
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: Let's take this guy now or whatever. Where the rest

1088
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: of your picks are has a lot to do with

1089
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: what you feel like you need to go and where

1090
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: the value of the board is going to be.

1091
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: All right, So, with defensive tackle the most popular position pick,

1092
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: let's go through some of the names now, Maddie, that

1093
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: are popping up at the defensive tackle position for the

1094
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: Bills at thirty.

1095
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 8: So I'll give you some names and we'll run through them.

1096
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 8: I'll get your take on these guys too.

1097
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 6: But the.

1098
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 8: Far and away favorite right now heading to Buffalo at

1099
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 8: number thirty is Kenneth Grant out of Michigan. He's been

1100
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 8: mocked to the Bills eleven times so far. This name

1101
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 8: has not dropped off since we've been through that first

1102
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 8: wave of free agency. We are still consistently seeing him

1103
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 8: mock to Buffalo at thirty. This guy is six', four

1104
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 8: three hundred and thirty one, pounds has six and a

1105
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,479
Speaker 8: half sacks in his. Career he had three sacks last

1106
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 8: season twenty twenty. Four he was second Team All american

1107
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 8: and second Team All Big. Ten he's got incredible physical, traits,

1108
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 8: big big, build quick, feet violent. Hands you can see

1109
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 8: when he hits somebody it. Hurts he offers position flexibility.

1110
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 8: Two and this is the type of player who's going

1111
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 8: to help end plays before they get out of hand

1112
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 8: because of his ability to go chase somebody. Down that's

1113
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 8: why a lot of people Love Kenneth grant is his

1114
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 8: ability to, chase his ability to drop into, things his

1115
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 8: quickness with his size six, four three thirty, one and

1116
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 8: he has very quick. Feet he's not going to give

1117
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 8: up until play is. Over what do you guys think

1118
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 8: About Kenneth?

1119
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: Grant he's, there, yes but he won't be a.

1120
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: Lot of people at the combine were telling us they

1121
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna last that.

1122
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: Long he's that, good he is that good if he's

1123
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: there at.

1124
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: THIRTIETH i, mean the first, thing that's the guy AFTER

1125
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: i watched. Him the first THING i wrote is moves

1126
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: with uncommon fluidity for a man his. Size nobody that's

1127
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty one pounds should move like. That,

1128
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: YES i, Mean i'm watching him string out stretch plays

1129
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: to the. Sideline it's crazy getting. There and he's three

1130
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty one. Pounds he's.

1131
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: Big, now he's a guy that That we had a

1132
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: call earlier, said you, know you need a guy Like

1133
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: Ted washington in this. Drap this guy's he's not as,

1134
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: big but he, Moves he moves and he bends and He,

1135
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: yeah he's got some, athleticism he plays with some. Violence

1136
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: like you, said he's got a high energy about his.

1137
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 8: Play and when you see that on tape and you

1138
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 8: see a kid who's three hundred and thirty one pounds

1139
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 8: and moves like that and the effort is there and

1140
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 8: the motor is, there you start to think, About, wow

1141
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 8: this type OF dna fits In, buffalo fits with our

1142
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 8: culture that we have. Here but like you both, say

1143
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 8: who knows if he's gonna be available at number Thirty

1144
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 8: BECAUSE i have WHILE i have tracked mock drafts where

1145
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 8: he's heading To, BUFFALO i have seen a bunch where

1146
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 8: he's getting picked in the.

1147
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: Twenties, yeah AND i MEAN I i THINK i had him

1148
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: as my third best defensive. TACKLE i can't see the

1149
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: third best defensive tackle in the class going. THIRTIETH i

1150
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be gone long before.

1151
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: That all, right with this, Class, yeah they've got. Him

1152
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: i've got seen him as high as twenty. One so,

1153
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: yeah it's here's gonna be a Tough the real question

1154
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: is what if he drops to like twenty twenty four To.

1155
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: Minnesota Steve's steve's already dreamt up the trade. Up he's

1156
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,959
Speaker 2: Already minnesota putting picks.

1157
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 8: Together, well if you give him this and, this we

1158
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,919
Speaker 8: can move up for only has four.

1159
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: Picks if they would be very amenable.

1160
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: Took the problem is at twenty one is The Pittsburgh

1161
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: steelers and there and a lot of people think they're

1162
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: the got people that are going to Take Kenneth grant

1163
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: at twenty. One you can't line The bills are not

1164
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: going to be able to trade up to twenty. One

1165
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: it's just too expensive to do.

1166
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: That all, Right who is name number two at defensive.

1167
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 8: Tech all, Right, well If Kenneth grant isn't your soup d,

1168
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 8: joor Maybe Walter nolan out of Ole miss is another

1169
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 8: big defensive tackle six,' four two hundred and ninety, six

1170
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 8: pounds eleven and a half sacks in his career six

1171
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 8: and a half sacks last season a career High, for

1172
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 8: nolan A Consensus all american in twenty. Twenty Four once nolan,

1173
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 8: gets going he has a motor that is so tough

1174
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 8: to stop a. Powerful body you see that in his

1175
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 8: legs and. His hands it helps him win those one on.

1176
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,959
Speaker 8: One matchups nolan has some really nice bend to rip

1177
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 8: and get. Off blocks that's what stood out to ME

1178
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 8: when i watch some of. His highlights how do You

1179
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 8: think nolan could Fit In buffer?

1180
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: CLOWS defense i liked his versatility At. Ole miss he

1181
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: went from seven tech all the way inside to, one

1182
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: tech So ole miss clearly thought he was capable of.

1183
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: HANDLING that i don't know if he can be quite,

1184
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: that versatile especially if he's right around three, hundred pounds

1185
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: but he definitely has some position flex which you know the.

1186
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: Bills like he also has a very. Long build he's

1187
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: just long all the way through. Long arms, you Know

1188
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: the bills, like, tall long. Lanky players so is this

1189
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 2: like a guy that plays a classic left defensive, end

1190
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: position Like A phil hanson type in a four. TO

1191
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: three i, don't KNOW but i will say the guy

1192
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,479
Speaker 2: does a good job working. Off stunts he's Got real

1193
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: he had real good timing with his teammates on stunts

1194
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: because a lot OF times i saw him coming free off,

1195
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: of stunts and a lot of times it was because

1196
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 2: he timed, it right waited till the offensive lineman fell

1197
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: asleep for half, a second and then shot the gap

1198
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: and made the play in.

1199
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: The, BACKFIELD yeah I like i like, the string his upper.

1200
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: Body string he seems to have great, when guys, you

1201
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: know he's like. A machine once he grips, onto you

1202
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: You get you're not getting away until he. LETS go

1203
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: i like that. About him you don't you're not going

1204
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: to get in the yards, after contact, you know trying

1205
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: to break. His tackle. You don't you watch. His film

1206
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: nobody breaks tackles on, the guy. Even quarterbacks he once he's,

1207
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: got him he's. Got him and that's that's a. Little,

1208
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: thing yeah he is not as Good as kenneth grant, to,

1209
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: me no but he's may well be available at.

1210
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: Number thirty many of his SACKS were i felt of

1211
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: the coverage variety more than him being so disruptive and

1212
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: getting to the. Quarterback quickly so he'll he'll push, the

1213
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: POCKET but i don't know if he's going to get

1214
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: the quarterback on the ground a. Whole lot so, that's

1215
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: yeah kind of some of THE things i saw. With Him,

1216
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 2: all right we got.

1217
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 8: One more name one a defensive tackle Out, Of Oregon.

1218
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 8: Derek harmon he had eight and a half sacks in,

1219
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 8: his career five sacks, last year a SECOND Team Ap

1220
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 8: all american honors in twenty. Twenty four this is a

1221
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 8: defensive tackle who is a. Run stoper harmon pops into

1222
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 8: lanes to make sure the play. Ends there his frame

1223
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 8: takes up a lot, of space which frees up his

1224
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 8: edge rushers and linebackers up to go get. The quarterback

1225
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 8: he has some size and strength to move. People around

1226
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 8: that's kind of what stood out to me when watching.

1227
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 8: His tape ran a four nine to five at, the

1228
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 8: combine so he can move played three Seasons At michigan

1229
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 8: state before moving Over. To oregon what strikes You About

1230
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 8: derek harmon.

1231
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: Great hands almost every snap he's making contact with the offensive,

1232
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: lineman first and that allows a defensive lineman to dictate

1233
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: how that snap's going to. PLAY out i found it

1234
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: interesting that they would move him out on the edge

1235
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: at times and then kick him back inside on more.

1236
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: Obvious rundowns he's got two MOVES that i. Really like

1237
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: he's got a one arm. Stab move he's just, naturally

1238
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: strong so he's got this one arm stab move where

1239
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: he just walks alignment back with, one arm and then

1240
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: he's got a. Rip move and then he's got a

1241
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: step to the edge move that kind of allows him

1242
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 2: to get on the shoulder of linemen and then he

1243
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: squeezes through creases and. Gets penetration but for a guy

1244
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: that goes, three ten super light on, his, FEET yeah.

1245
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: I thought for a guy, three ten he's slippery, at

1246
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: times you KNOW what. I mean he's got a GOOD

1247
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: bend i thought. HE had i like his pass rush

1248
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: as Well As kenneth Grant Or. WALTER nolan i think

1249
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: his pass rush technique is better than any of the guys.

1250
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: WE'VE discussed i think he's the best one. At that

1251
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: and he's got a little bit more weight than, You

1252
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: Know walter nolan or one of the. Other guys not

1253
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: as Much As, kenneth GRANT but i like him better

1254
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: as a pro prospect because of his pass rush moves

1255
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: and his athleticism off the edge and His, like browne

1256
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: so you can kind of dip him down inside or

1257
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: take him to. THE edge i like that, about him

1258
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: and he does that at a little. Heavier weight he's,

1259
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: ALSO heavy, I mean i, mean tall He's got he's got,

1260
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: good size a good height.

1261
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: As Well so i'm like he played in a, physical conference,

1262
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: you know three years In The. Big ten then he

1263
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: Goes to Oregon and organ's In the, big ten so

1264
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: he's right back in the. Same conference they've still run

1265
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: the ball a lot In The. Big ten so there's

1266
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: plenty of good tape on him in, terms of, you

1267
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: know being a force in the. Run front and he is.

1268
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: That of the three we've talked About In, Kenneth Grant,

1269
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: Derek Harmon. WALTER nolan i Put him grant and then,

1270
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: This Guy derek harmon And then nolan. BEHIND these i

1271
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: like harm and BETTER than I, like nolan just because

1272
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: of the way he the way the way, he plays

1273
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: the way, he's built and the kind of what he

1274
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: brings to the like, you said the first contact right

1275
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: and down inside the energy level, he brings the hands,

1276
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: he uses and his athleticism seems to come out more

1277
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: in his pass rush than the.

1278
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: Other. GUY yeah i like both of those guys More.

1279
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: Than nolan seems a little limited in the ways in

1280
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 2: which you can. Use him EVEN though i was mentioning

1281
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 2: how he worked all up and down, THE line i

1282
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: kind of got the sense That old miss wasn't sure

1283
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: what his best, position was so they tried him at

1284
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: a bunch of. DIFFERENT spots i think when you do

1285
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 2: start seeing him, do that even IN, the sec it's

1286
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 2: because he's he may just may be their.

1287
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: Best.

1288
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 8: Option yeah.

1289
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: He, may, talented right he. May be they're just leaning

1290
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: on his. PHYSICAL talent i don't know that to be,

1291
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: the case but it seems to me like when you

1292
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: get down and, you know not so much IN, the

1293
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: sec although what happens you Get got they just, he's

1294
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: come he's staying on the field and he's playing here

1295
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: because this other guy plays better, over here and he's,

1296
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: good enough you KNOW what.

1297
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 2: I mean and the other, thing too not that he

1298
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,799
Speaker 2: couldn't fix this by eating a couple of. Extra meals

1299
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 2: But the bills already have an undersized guy And at

1300
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: oliver upfront there on, THE interior i don't think you

1301
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: want to have another guy that's subbed, three hundred which

1302
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: You know nolan is at least. RIGHT now i mean

1303
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 2: he's four pounds from being. Three hundred it doesn't seem

1304
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 2: like a, big deal but he's a little bit lighter than.

1305
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: These GUYS and i Think the bills are probably gonna

1306
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 2: draft two defensive tackles when it's, all, said no one

1307
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: guy's gotta be a, space eater like, a, big huge

1308
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 2: three to twenty, plus guy and then if the other

1309
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: guy's a penetrator and he's about three zero five three,

1310
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: ten five but you gotta. Get one and if.

1311
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: You Can Get, kenneth grant you're well you got bold

1312
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: run the. Big things and that's. The problem It's Like

1313
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: Brian thomas junior last year. Wide receiver he's not gonna,

1314
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: be there that's.

1315
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 6: The.

1316
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 8: Problem yeah Derek's.

1317
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: Like romadoonzay he's not gonna.

1318
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: Be.

1319
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 8: There Yeah derek harmon, to me has these physical traits

1320
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 8: that he's been, gifted WITH and i think does a

1321
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 8: better job of using, those traits using his strength and

1322
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 8: his frame to take up that space and stop. The

1323
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 8: run like, you said he's a. Run stopper THAT'S what.

1324
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 8: I noticed and if you're looking At what buffalo could

1325
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 8: add to, their defense at times last Season the bills

1326
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 8: had a hard time stopping. The run and maybe it

1327
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 8: wasn't rushing yards, per game but the rushing yards per

1328
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 8: attempt number sometimes was really high for. This team so

1329
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 8: to get a space eater and somebody who can really

1330
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 8: Help at oliver move and have some space to do

1331
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 8: what he needs. To do we think About at oliver

1332
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 8: when he was, a young younger player and kind of

1333
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 8: the players that he worked best. OFF of i mean

1334
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 8: early on It Was star little and then it Was

1335
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 8: Exactly dayclon jones in his first Season.

1336
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: With, buffalo yeah and, MORE importantly I think harmon has

1337
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: a greater chance of still being on the board down

1338
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 2: in an area where If the bills can't get him,

1339
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 2: at thirty they could at least move to a spot

1340
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: where they could get him and not pay.

1341
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: A giant price.

1342
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 3: To.

1343
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,839
Speaker 8: Do yeah harmon has been Mocked to buffalo. Five times

1344
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 8: nolan has been Mocked to buffalo Five times grant. Is

1345
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 8: eleven so those are your three favorite defensive tackles so

1346
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 8: far that, we've tracked.

1347
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 2: All right and this so this latest Edition Of Mock

1348
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 2: draft watch goes. Up tomorrow it goes.

1349
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 8: Up tomorrow it's four. Point zero so you're gonna see

1350
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 8: a lot of these names that we're gonna that we

1351
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 8: have talked about in terms of. Defensive tackles and then

1352
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 8: you're gonna see those safeties and those cornerbacks sprinkled in

1353
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 8: especially as.

1354
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: Of, late okay very good. Manage stuff we will have

1355
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: you check in with the next edition when it is ready.

1356
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 2: For posting look forward, to it see if.

1357
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 8: Anything changes, you know they're coming out once a.

1358
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 2: Week, now yeah fast. And furious, we're.

1359
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 8: Ripping guys we're.

1360
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 2: Getting ready appreciate. The Time That's maddi glabb joining us

1361
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 2: with The Latest Mock, draft watch which you can find

1362
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 2: Tomorrow on buffalo bills. Dot com we take a, break

1363
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: here get some thoughts on the tweet sheeet. From you

1364
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 2: next here On One bill's live Presented By. Collide Health

1365
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo.

1366
01:11:53,960 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 5: Bills radio, all.

1367
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 2: Right good conversation There with maddy about some of the

1368
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 2: popular picks To the bills at thirty and the mock

1369
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: drafts going. Around cyberspace we do want to get back to,

1370
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 2: our conversation which is which position will account for The

1371
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 2: most bills draft picks? This year could very well be,

1372
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: defensive tackle as we were talking. About earlier maybe it's

1373
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: a space eater that goes, three thirty and then maybe

1374
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: it's a penetrator that goes three oh five and you

1375
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: get two in. The draft could happen If the bills

1376
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: keep the majority of their ten picks in this.

1377
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: Year's draft but.

1378
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 2: You tell us which position will account for The most

1379
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 2: bills draft picks this year in? Your mind ado three

1380
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

1381
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: five fifty gott to crack open the tweet sheet here

1382
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: for the, first time brought to You By Corrigan, moving

1383
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: systems the official equipment moving company Of The, buffalo Bills and,

1384
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:52,560
Speaker 2: paul says through the first, three rounds two defensive tackles

1385
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: and an edge rusher. Fingers crossed so he's not only going,

1386
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 2: all defense he's GOING all, d, line okay which would

1387
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 2: run in concert With what maddie was telling us from. The,

1388
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 2: mox yeah, YOU know d line the. Most, popular yeah.

1389
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 1: If if they get, the right if they get, the

1390
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: right guys are gonna. Be FINE AND i I don't

1391
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: they're not. Gonna go they're not gonna. Do this they're

1392
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: not gonna go two DT's in an edge or an

1393
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: edge and two DT's OR a dt edge dt whatever,

1394
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: you have whatever order you can throw those in Not

1395
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: going they're not going through d linemen, fair enough it,

1396
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: would be.

1397
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 2: It would buck. CONVENTIONAL wisdom i Know that i'd be.

1398
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 2: Pretty Amped and.

1399
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: I'm not Saying it's i'm not saying it because it's

1400
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: a bad idea or that you know it. Could Happen

1401
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: i'm i'm not saying that you just don't do that for.

1402
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: Some reason i'm just saying there's gonna be there's too

1403
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: many moving parts to have it come out.

1404
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: Like that it also means you're not touching the cornerback

1405
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: position until, round, four yeah which is a, LITTLE concerning.

1406
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 2: I think and it.

1407
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 1: Could fall the board could fall. That way the bills

1408
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: get there and all of, a sudden, you know none

1409
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: none of their corners, are there or they think they're

1410
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get their corners in the third or,

1411
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: fourth round, Fourth, round yeah.

1412
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: We know stranger things. Have happened we've seen it absolutely

1413
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: from ourt defensive tackle. Defensive back we've got to be

1414
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 2: too deep at. Both positions so he's in favor in

1415
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: this year's draft of having coming out of it with

1416
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: two defensive, tackles selected two corners, or sorry two. DEFENSIVE

1417
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 2: backs i could see a corner in a safety getting taken,

1418
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 2: pretty easily.

1419
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: Easily easily, and yes we do have to be too

1420
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: deep at, every position but and that seems to be

1421
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: where they're lacking quality depth at. This point. We'll see,

1422
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm yeah i'd live with that. For sure i'd be

1423
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: very happy.

1424
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 2: With that david on the tweets, Sheet says i'm leaning

1425
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 2: towards a tie between defensive tackle. AND cornerback i can

1426
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 2: see two draft picks for. Each, POSITION yeah, i mean

1427
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: we've Seen the bills do. It before they drafted two

1428
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 2: corners in the twenty. Two draft you know they've drafted

1429
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: two defensive ends Back And, rousseau, WELL no, i mean

1430
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 2: or Was it Rousseau And basham shane draft in twenty one.

1431
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: And he came back and got epinessa the next year

1432
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: right the.

1433
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: Year, before actually he was a second round pick in

1434
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: twenty Because the bills didn't have a first and twenty

1435
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: because Of the. Digs Trade so epanessa was the first

1436
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: pick in, round two the first pick that. THEY had

1437
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 2: i guess would be the best way to. Put It go,

1438
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 2: bill says. Defensive interior they need bodies given, the suspensions

1439
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: and it's the deepest skill position in this. Year's, DRAFT

1440
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: well i don't know if it's a, skill position. PER

1441
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 2: se i can see them walking away with Three d

1442
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 2: jays and a couple of edge you guys to round out.

1443
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: The Draft, Go bill so five half of the ten

1444
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 2: picks going to. D, Line, Wow, okay, NOW look i

1445
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,839
Speaker 2: mean there is a case to be made for edge, rusher,

1446
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 2: because yes you. Have players you Just signed rousseau to.

1447
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 2: An extension You Drafted javon solomon. Last year he's probably

1448
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 2: gonna be a bigger part of the rotation.

1449
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 3: This.

1450
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: Year bosa You sign bosa and you Still. Have epinessa here's.

1451
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 2: The catch bosa's on a one year Deal and epessa's

1452
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: in the last year of. His contract so if you're

1453
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 2: planning for the now and the, near future it probably

1454
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 2: would be hoove you to get another edge rusher in.

1455
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 2: The pipeline we Know the bills usually carry nine or

1456
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 2: ten defensive linemen on the, roster anyway so have. That

1457
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: fifth they've had five pass rushers the last couple of

1458
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 2: years on the, fifty THREE so i don't think that's

1459
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: out of the realm of possibility. At all two defensive,

1460
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 2: EDGE guys i don't know. About, That, one, YEAH two

1461
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 2: i don't know.

1462
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: Not with not if it's three defensive tackles and two.

1463
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 10: Edge guys going a, little overboard there's that's a little,

1464
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 10: bit HYAPERBOLE but i round out the draft just my

1465
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,839
Speaker 10: favorite going to balance the draft out by taking five.

1466
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 1: Defensive.

1467
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 2: Linemen uh jacob says cornerback is the. Only answer need

1468
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 2: to Replace Al in douglas may need a third corner

1469
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 2: To replace benford in. Twenty six obviously need a third

1470
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 2: tight end and a, wide, receiver speedster, defensive end and.

1471
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 2: Defensive tackle two did he leave out?

1472
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: Any positions, say so we got to have, third corner,

1473
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: tight end, wide receiver. Defensive end that's five. Different positions

1474
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: you just five.

1475
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 2: Different positions did one tweet that's, Something, THERE jacob. I

1476
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: do what drew my eye was the third tight end spot?

1477
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 2: You have, you know You have NOx and, kincaid Obviously

1478
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 2: But quinin morris is out there selling his wares on

1479
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 2: the free agent market making free. Agent visits You Have

1480
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 2: zach davidson's resigned as a reserve future, free agent but

1481
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 2: he's largely a pass, catcher only so third tight end

1482
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: is something they will have to. Look, at now you

1483
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: could get a veteran for a one year deal out

1484
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: in free agency, floating around or you could use a

1485
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: late round pick for a third tight end that you

1486
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: know can block and play on. Special teams that kind.

1487
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: OF player, i, Mean Heck quintin morris was an undrafted

1488
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: rookie and made, the squad so you can even go

1489
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 2: into the undrafted pool and potentially find your third. Tight

1490
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,560
Speaker 2: end but they're gonna need somebody that can do a

1491
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 2: lot of. Different, things, yeah.

1492
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: Right the.

1493
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: Low, priority yes.

1494
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: You're getting a little bit into the weeds WITH.

1495
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 2: That, Smi yes i'll. Admit that i'll.

1496
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 1: Own it, I'm there i'll look over the weeds. With you.

1497
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 2: And the guy named, six POSITIONS so i figured we'll

1498
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 2: entertain one.

1499
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: Of Those.

1500
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 2: Uh connor on, the tweet, she says d line would be.

1501
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 2: My guess with the Suspensions of Hoyt And. Ogan joby

1502
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: there is. A need Oliver and carter are the only

1503
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: TWO interior d linemen on the roster past. This year

1504
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: buffalo needs affordable impact players and the draft will be

1505
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 2: a perfect place to help fill. The void This is

1506
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: this is kind OF what i was, Getting. AT steve

1507
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: i don't think the Suspensions for Hoyt And ogen joby

1508
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: necessarily change the, overall APPROACH but i do think it

1509
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 2: cements the urgency at. The position like because those two guys,

1510
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 2: ARE suspended i don't think they're going to suddenly draft for,

1511
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 2: defensive LINEMEN but i think it raises the urgency to

1512
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 2: make sure you come out of it with at Least, TWO.

1513
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: Yeah i. Get that in the, big PICTURE this i

1514
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: don't think this Changes any The suspensions i'm talking about don't.

1515
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: Change anything don't. Change anything you're going in as though

1516
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: You lose Ogunjobi and hoyt to injury for, Six weeks

1517
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna have enough bodies to fill. In there and,

1518
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: you know while you you hope that those guys overachieve

1519
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: and do. A lot but this is like getting those

1520
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: guys back or getting them at the. Trade deadline call

1521
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: it what. You want this is. IT'S not, i mean

1522
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: They signed hoyt to a three. Year deal they want him.

1523
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: Long term they like, The Player. Ogan jobi you can

1524
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: make a, case that, you know maybe he would never

1525
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: have been signed had, he not, you know had had

1526
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: they known about the six. GAME suspension i, get that

1527
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: but still it's like. An Injury they this does not

1528
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: affect the way you do business or any specific thing

1529
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: about the draft or anything. Like that you got to

1530
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: you're trying to get the best players you can by hook,

1531
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: or crook by free agency or, by draft, by trade

1532
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: by signing a guy off, the street your practice. Squad

1533
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: elevator you you. Don't care so you're gonna have a

1534
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: guy to put, in there plug, in there and it's

1535
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: gonna be economically fine because of it has to. Be,

1536
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: THIS no i think the suspensions are a side note in.

1537
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: The margin they have nothing to do with the plot of.

1538
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: The story so that's not even a consideration for how

1539
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: you handle a draft pick. At all you can't let

1540
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: it be because then you're You're getting you're. Getting distracted

1541
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: you're getting distracted by. Something, THAT yeah i, get it it's,

1542
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: a concern, but dude you're this is big picture, time

1543
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 1: here you're you're you're a five time. Defending champ don't

1544
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: change your way you do business becomes because some guys

1545
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: getting you lose a guy for six weeks or two

1546
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: guys for.

1547
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 2: Six weeks joey on, the tweet she Says the bills

1548
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 2: will double up on both defensive tackle and corner in.

1549
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 2: The draft they need quality young players at both, those

1550
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,839
Speaker 2: positions and it's Worked before Elam, and benford, for example

1551
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: we only need one to, pan out and doubling the

1552
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 2: picks at those positions increases the chance we get as Starter.

1553
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 2: Go bills what do you think of the shotgun mentality spray? The,

1554
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 2: POSITION yeah i can.

1555
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: See it, if if if, they're there. Take them i'm all.

1556
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: ABOUT it i was going down. The list there's gonna

1557
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 1: be some. Guys HERE you, i said you won't find

1558
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: a Guy Like. Ted washington you're gonna find. A couple

1559
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys on the list that are. As,

1560
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: BIG yeah SpeI they're three thirty plus and there's, six

1561
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: five six. Y. Six Uh ted washington was listed at six.

1562
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 2: Four, three twenty five. Which, was, laughable.

1563
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah uh but he no matter how what weight, he

1564
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 1: played at which was significantly more than. Three twenty four

1565
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: no matter what weight, he played at. He was you

1566
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: he could move. Down the line you had to run

1567
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: around him because he could slide from tackle to tackle

1568
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: as fast as the running back could get to the,

1569
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 1: tackle to tackle and you you weren't, getting any grunt.

1570
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: Gaining any ground he. Was unbelievably strong so those bodies

1571
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: are going to be in this draft class and depends

1572
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 1: on you know when. You see him ted was a first,

1573
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: round draft talent not just. A. Physical being right he wasn't.

1574
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: Just a body he. Was a, Talent so yeah i'm,

1575
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: Find a guy find one, of those guys and if

1576
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 1: you have to cast, a wide net you. Got ten

1577
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: picks so we were laughing at three defensive tackles. AND

1578
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: two edges i won't laugh if. They, DO it yeah

1579
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: i won't laugh if.

1580
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 2: They do it andrew, on the tweet it says cornerback

1581
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 2: and safety reason we lack in depth. In those positions

1582
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: you ARE authentic corner i don't think there's any. DEBATE

1583
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 2: about that i think they've mitigated the lack of depth

1584
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: at safety because They Brought, back DAMAR hamlin who i

1585
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 2: think in an ideal world, is a Backup And, then

1586
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: derek forrest who they signed in free Agency. Away from

1587
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 2: washington this guy has experience both in the box and.

1588
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 2: In center field was more of a Reserve safety for

1589
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 2: washington the last, couple of years but earlier in his career.

1590
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: Was a starter so it's a player with experience under

1591
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 2: his belt and can play. ON special teams i see

1592
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 2: a guy like him. MAKING the roster i think he's a,

1593
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 2: Depth piece also so if you want to find somebody

1594
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: to challenge for a frontline, Role at safety i'll. Listen to,

1595
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 2: that you know To challenge Either, rap OR bishop who

1596
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 2: i think many are forecasting as. The projected starters they got,

1597
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 2: to EARN it but i think many people project those

1598
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: two to be the starters. In twenty five if you

1599
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 2: can draft a player of a high enough caliber and

1600
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 2: quality to challenge, THOSE two guys i think it makes,

1601
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 2: you better anyway because it's going to either push those

1602
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: guys to play their best or they're going to be.

1603
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 2: Overtaken by them that's what it's and that's what bringing in.

1604
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: Competitions all About that's what bean has always, attempted to

1605
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: do and bringing guys in and bringing better guys in

1606
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: to compete at a higher level than the guys that

1607
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 1: the starters have already. Beaten, out right yep that's the.

1608
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: Way it's done and the reason this is hard to

1609
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: do is because these guys are PLAYING against as i laughably,

1610
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,919
Speaker 1: always put it they're playing against dental students. And engineering

1611
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: students they're not playing, against you know they're Not Playing, against,

1612
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: Dion dawkins right they're playing, against you.

1613
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 2: Know this is one of the first ones we've, Seen so,

1614
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:10,560
Speaker 2: far aaron says. LINEBACKER or corner i haven't seen linebacker. A,

1615
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: whole lot Now you got bernard locked up, with the extension,

1616
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 2: but you know with the Contract Readjustment, from matt mulano

1617
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: he's going to be a free. AGENT next year I

1618
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: Would envision dorian williams as the heir apparent, to his.

1619
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Position you know and behind those Guys You have Eddie Ulafocio.

1620
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: And joeann Dreesen but in. Specter's already there, inspector's still

1621
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 2: there but you could use you could stand to use a.

1622
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 2: LITTLE depth there i don't think that's a high priority,

1623
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 2: By any means but if you're sitting there in round

1624
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 2: five with three picks and there's a, LINEBACKER you like

1625
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: i wouldn't be opposed to with. Locking one down.

1626
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: With the trends over the last, handful of years maybe

1627
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: more with the linebackers getting lighter and lighter and faster

1628
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 1: and more athletic and coverage guys more than tackling Guys

1629
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: between the more and more athletes are vailable to, Play

1630
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: that position so you're getting a lot of guys. That

1631
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: can go and it's A little bit i equate it

1632
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: now with a little bit like the, running back position

1633
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: where you've got so many guys who've been carrying the ball.

1634
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: Their whole lives linebackers. A little bit more and more

1635
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: guys now are THE size of nfl linebackers because now they're. Basically.

1636
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: Oversized safeties, RIGHT so yeah i think my point is

1637
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: there are gonna be more abundant athletes that you can

1638
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: find at that position in the draft in the mid

1639
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: to late rounds than going up and jumping up. And

1640
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: getting them you're gonna it's gonna be hard for any

1641
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: linebacker to jump into the first round unless you're, an

1642
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: edge guy an outside guy in A three four gotta take.

1643
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 2: A break here one final segment to go as we'll

1644
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: mull through some of these final thoughts on the tweet

1645
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 2: sheet and the most popular position pick you could See

1646
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 2: in the bills draft. Plans this Spring Here On, one

1647
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 2: bill's Live Presented By Kalida Helth It's.

1648
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:20,480
Speaker 11: Buffalo bill's radio.

1649
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: So getting back to this pick, a thirty conversation you

1650
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 2: try to look at what's In front of buffalo in

1651
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 2: terms of teams and what those teams might need to

1652
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 2: try to assess what's going to be Left for the

1653
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 2: bills when they're standing there. On the clock denver at

1654
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: twenty has a bit of a defensive. Line positional need

1655
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 2: you Would Hope that sean payton would, lean towards offense

1656
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 2: knowing they have a running back and receiver, need as

1657
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 2: well and maybe he takes a running back there at

1658
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 2: pick number twenty and leaves a defensive lineman on the.

1659
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: Board for YOU pittsburgh needs, d line help as we.

1660
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 2: Have already Outlined They lost ogun Joby, to The Bills

1661
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 2: and cameron hayward is ENTERING his. Twelfth nfl season there

1662
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 2: aren't too many more years, left for him so they

1663
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: could get. A Defensive tackle THE chargers need d line help.

1664
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 2: On The interior the packers could.

1665
01:27:58,240 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 1: Use a little.

1666
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: D line HELP. They, lost tj slayton their, best Defensive.

1667
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 2: Tackle to cincinnati vikings at twenty four don't really need.

1668
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: Defensive line help they signed a bunch, Of Big behemoths

1669
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Jonathan Allen. AND javon Hargrave i believe houston needs. Defensive

1670
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 2: interior help so Too, do The. Ravens the lions so

1671
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 2: you've got that's about five teams right in front of

1672
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:28,560
Speaker 2: you from twenty to twenty nine that have. Defensive interior

1673
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 2: needs so my fear as the run starts somewhere in

1674
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 2: the early Twenties and the bills are going to be

1675
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 2: left out in the colt as far as that, position

1676
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: is concerned which again kind of points me back to corner. End,

1677
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 2: or safety yeah in terms of where the. Value might

1678
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 2: be there's a ton of defensive tackles. In this draft

1679
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: there's a ton of talent that goes deep. Down the board,

1680
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 2: like twenty guys some people are saying you just may

1681
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: have to wait on picking. A defensive tackle.

1682
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: You just, make you know just get your hierarchy together

1683
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: and take the, one that's left the highest, one that's

1684
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 1: left whether it's edge. Or defensive tackle but you're gonna get,

1685
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: a good player and you're gonna get a player with

1686
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: some with the right. Traits at thirty that. Says a

1687
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: lot if you can get a, guy with traits maybe

1688
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: you can coach him up and if if, your culture

1689
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,440
Speaker 1: works he'll. Play his, best.

1690
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 2: Programming note the latest Edition of the Bills by the numbers.

1691
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 2: Podcast is out we dive headlong into some drafting Trends Of,

1692
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 2: one brandon bean so be sure to check that out

1693
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 2: on any of. Your Podcast platforms saint john's is tipping

1694
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 2: at

1695
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 11: Nine Five Th johnny's let's go