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Speaker 3: And and welcome to Cowboy Logic. Everyone here comes. Man,

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Speaker 4: Yes, Don, I must be honest when I say you

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Speaker 3: You shape, you shape my hats. He does, he's got

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Speaker 4: It's multiple beavers. It's more than one. We have many beavers.

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Speaker 3: One of these days we will have to show you

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Speaker 3: our pool table. We've done it before, but it stands to.

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Speaker 1: It's not a pool table, it's a that's right.

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Speaker 3: Can I say one thing you.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you being here. By yes, we do, we

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks, don. Can I just say one thing that

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Speaker 3: everybody is finally saying, Why don't we just get it

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Speaker 3: You know I hate to say lumored. I like Mike Waltz.

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Speaker 4: While you're talking about lumer and I got a lot

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Speaker 3: We know for a fact that he represented the oath Keepers,

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Speaker 3: Dems are doing all they can to basically keep violent

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Speaker 8: You've been hit that smooth.

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Speaker 1: And stay. It was okay, but a bad day.

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Speaker 4: But Donald Trump will become the forty seventh president of

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Speaker 10: The bottom line is, whether you like Trump or you

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Catholic logic, everybody, Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: How'd you like that new Trump intro? There? Promises made,

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Donna, Except for that, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Sure, find something to do while you do more headlines.

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Speaker 3: Well it's annoying. Well, we just see promises made, promises kept.

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Speaker 3: Except for Congress Mike Johnson, please do something. Congress is

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Speaker 3: Well, let me see your notes. All he's scribbling. Are

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Speaker 12: You? No?

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Speaker 1: Nope, this is.

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Speaker 3: News you can use. This is news you don't hear

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Speaker 1: We love Donna.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you how much we love Donna. Let

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Speaker 4: me just tell you guys something. So we've got cameras

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Speaker 4: Cameras in the house or outside the house, the shed,

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Speaker 1: And uh no, no, I am going to set this up.

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Speaker 4: And so Donna throughout the day has real America's voice

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's got it constantly going. When Trump was up

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Speaker 1: In the bar.

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Speaker 3: Literally, we will make.

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Speaker 1: America great again. I love you, Michigan, I love you.

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Speaker 1: Have a good time.

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Speaker 12: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: God bless you all.

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Speaker 3: God bless you.

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Speaker 12: There's no need to do down.

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Speaker 1: I said, you're so down, I say, cause you're in

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Speaker 4: Jump.

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Speaker 9: It's only shooting.

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Speaker 4: And that's where you buy me.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to stay in.

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Speaker 4: See, it's hard to stay in.

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Speaker 1: Samn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's puppy band. He always gets in the picture.

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Speaker 4: That's what Donna does all day everybody, that's what she does.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what's so funny.

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Speaker 1: The barn, but that was real time footage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what she does, and I knew Don was looking.

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Speaker 1: Had to blur that out.

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Speaker 3: Bird.

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Speaker 1: You guys enjoy that.

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Speaker 3: I know I did.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get myself in trouble. Totally gonna get

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Speaker 3: everybody for Tina Peters. She filed a federal habeas corpus

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Speaker 3: And Steve Stern is going to be doing one of

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Speaker 3: down at two pm Eastern time, an election integrity call.

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Speaker 3: They're going to try to help Tina Peters. You can

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Speaker 3: we thank Steve Stern always trying to help and prayers

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Speaker 4: Because while you're bull cry, yeah, while you're sending out prayers,

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Speaker 4: we want you to keep our jasick brother, US Marine

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Speaker 3: It was stage two when he went into the gulag,

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Speaker 1: Keep Bart in your prayers, absolutely need them.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know, I want to lighten things up though

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Speaker 3: right and go for a ride. But we haven't done

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Speaker 3: a boot check in a while, slick Rick, eat your

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Speaker 1: Well, are you going to show your all?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Get your boot? Get your boot?

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Speaker 3: No, I got it, decidle, And this is kind of

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Speaker 3: going back to It's got dirt on it, it's got

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Speaker 3: my boot check. Slick Rick doesn't. I don't even think

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Speaker 3: slick Rick wears his boots. I'm sure you have horse crap.

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Speaker 1: Under They look like they're in pretty good shape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these are actually in pretty good shape. This, I

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Speaker 3: mean this square toe.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm wearing.

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Speaker 3: That's not in good shape?

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Speaker 1: No, no it's not.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Rick, is that an old laugh?

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Speaker 1: You got anything that looks like that on the bottom?

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Speaker 3: No, Rick doesn't even look like he wears his. But

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Speaker 3: these how do you pronounce it? Hey, olitha Alitha, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna show y'all something Alitha Texas made in the USA.

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Speaker 1: In the USA, Rick, you got any that have that

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Speaker 3: I fry since eighteen sixty eight. Boot check and fry

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Speaker 1: You never know.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully, though, we're bringing more of it back, more industry

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Speaker 3: back to the United States. I know the resist All

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Speaker 3: That was kind, that was really cool. We went out

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Speaker 3: how the hats were made. The Beavers.

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Speaker 4: We love our Beavers, ladies and gentlemen again, Uh do

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Speaker 4: us A favor prayer is very powerful. Anything you can

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 4: But let's remember Tina Peters and uh pray for her

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Speaker 4: release and pray for our brother Bart's recovery.

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Speaker 1: We love you, Bart, and we know you're going to

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Speaker 1: fight through this year a marine. Ladies and gentlemen, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be back with more cabal logic right after this,

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Speaker 1: right after this.

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Speaker 8: Cast any wear designer shirtsmores the.

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Speaker 14: Body's Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. From the best seat

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Speaker 14: in the house, I can tell you America's heart is

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Speaker 14: still beating strong. In just one hundred days, President Trump

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Speaker 14: did what they said couldn't be done. He stopped the invasion,

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Speaker 14: crushed the bureaucratic waste, brought prices down, and put America

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Speaker 1: He fought for peace when the world was rushing toward war.

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Speaker 4: He gave this.

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Speaker 1: Country back to you.

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Speaker 14: And make no mistake, folks, the American spirit is roaring

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Speaker 14: back with every bit of my soul. Thank you, President Trump.

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Speaker 14: God bless you, and God blessed this land of freedom.

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Speaker 12: We so love.

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Speaker 1: O fact, this is so bad, Rush Limbaugh.

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Speaker 3: I can like, I just look at a picture of

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Speaker 3: them and I start to well up. But how cool

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Speaker 3: is that across the fruited plain everyone, boy, I wish

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Speaker 3: problem is China. China is always the biggest problem, and

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Speaker 3: that would be one Gordon Chang. So let's bring Gordon

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Speaker 3: His latest book, as you See Their Plan read China's

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Speaker 3: Project to Destroy America. And again, you've written so many

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Speaker 3: I on the World That's with John Batchelor and Gordon.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Si jimping was really arrogant. And we go back

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Speaker 12: spending is by Americans. That market can't be replaced. Siegem

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Speaker 12: Ping has irritated not only President Trump, but the American people,

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Speaker 12: and so right now siegem Ping is in a world

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Speaker 12: of hurt. His economy was failing to start out with

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Speaker 12: President Trump, hass with his actions and what we're seeing

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Speaker 12: with tariff controversies around the world. Chinese economy is actually

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Speaker 12: contracting right now, so the terriff war couldn't come at

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Speaker 12: a worse time for China's leader.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know just what you said though, that he

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Speaker 3: was with Putin saying we're going to basically run things

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Speaker 3: here on in now. If Trump didn't get in, that

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Speaker 3: certainly was the case. Because with a Biden administration, of course,

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Speaker 3: if Kamala Harris got in, we were driving Russia into

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Speaker 3: the arms of China. So now it's obviously so different.

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Speaker 3: But what really is so scary is, like you say,

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Speaker 3: the economy certainly isn't doing well, and you know, now

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Speaker 3: I'm just afraid for Taiwan and it's sort of quiet,

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Speaker 3: and I'm just wondering if it's that's not a good sign.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I hope it's a good sign, but

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he's going to lash out, I would

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Speaker 3: say Taiwan would hurt us the most, especially given our

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Speaker 3: trade with Taiwan.

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Speaker 12: Well, Taiwan One company in Taiwan TSMC, Taiwan's semiconductor Magne

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Speaker 12: factoring company makes ninety two percent of the world's most

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Speaker 12: sophisticated computer chips. And also Taiwan is the center of

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Speaker 12: our eastern of our western defense perimeter. It is democracy,

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Speaker 12: it is a test of American credibility, especially after the

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Speaker 12: collapse of Afghanistan and August of twenty twenty one. So

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Speaker 12: we've got a lot writing on Taiwan, more than most

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Speaker 12: people think. In the last three and a half four weeks,

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Speaker 12: China has been engaged in very provocative military activity against

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Speaker 12: South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, and Australia. On Taiwan, for

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Speaker 12: the last couple of weeks, it's been quiet. This is important,

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Speaker 12: and I think from a number of different perspectives this

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Speaker 12: gets a little wonky. But I think Sidrimping has lost

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Speaker 12: control of the Chinese military. That has all sorts of implications,

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Speaker 12: some good but mostly bad.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was going to ask you about with

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Speaker 4: regard to the organizing structure as well as the military

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Speaker 4: of China. You know, I had heard a couple of

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Speaker 4: weeks ago, maybe a month ago, that he was now

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Speaker 4: actually on the hot seat, that they were starting to

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Speaker 4: look very with critical eyes of him, and this is

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Speaker 4: not good for g So what does it mean with

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Speaker 4: regard to the military might be turning on him.

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Speaker 12: Well, it means that he's not controlling the military, which

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Speaker 12: is the most important faction in the Communist Party. Now,

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Speaker 12: this means a couple of things. One of them is

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Speaker 12: that it is extremely unlikely that Sijenping would be able

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Speaker 12: to start hostilities with an invasion of the main island

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Speaker 12: of Taimwaw. In order to do that, c has to

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Speaker 12: give some general or admir almost complete control over the

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Speaker 12: Chinese military, making that flag officer the most powerful figure

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Speaker 12: in China. Even in the best of times, Sigimping would

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Speaker 12: be reluctant to do that, but especially not now. And

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Speaker 12: it's not even clear to me that he could give

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Speaker 12: that order because it's I think fairly evident that Sijimping's

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Speaker 12: adversaries in uniform are basically in control of the Chinese military.

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Speaker 12: But on the other side of the ledger, Sijmping can

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Speaker 12: lash out. As I mentioned ano the last month, there

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Speaker 12: have been these very belligerent activities. If one of those

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Speaker 12: incidents spirals out of control, I don't think siegen Ping

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Speaker 12: can actually deal responsibly with the world to reduce tensions.

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Speaker 12: So I think the chance of war in Asia is

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Speaker 12: actually quite high, not because China is strong, but because

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Speaker 12: the regime is weak.

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Speaker 3: What's the latest with Japan. The leadership there has seemed

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Speaker 3: to try to go a little more toward the left.

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Speaker 12: Well, the Liberal Democratic Party is a coalition of factions,

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Speaker 12: and if you're looking at time since Shinzo Abe, the

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Speaker 12: long serving Japanese Prime minister, who was very friendly with

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Speaker 12: the United States, Yes, the Japan's moving a little bit

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Speaker 12: to the left, but it's not that far left. What's

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Speaker 12: going on with Japan are trade talks. Those trade talks

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Speaker 12: have not gone as well. I guess, as people think

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Speaker 12: part of it is because the Japanese are complaining, probably correctly,

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Speaker 12: that the Trump administration is not making clear what it wants.

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Speaker 12: It keeps on changing its negotiating positions. That's not a

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Speaker 12: good sign because for Trump to prevail in this trade war,

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Speaker 12: he needs to do a couple of things, and one

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Speaker 12: of the most critic is to stitch up trade agreements

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Speaker 12: with America's traditional trade partners. So if what the Japanese

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Speaker 12: are saying is correct, and I think it is, I

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Speaker 12: don't know, but I think it is, then it shows

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Speaker 12: disunity in the Trump administration with regard to these absolutely

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Speaker 12: crucial trade talks.

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Speaker 4: Gordon, I want to take a moment and ask you

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Speaker 4: also about South Korea. Is South Korea moving further left

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Speaker 4: than even Japan? Weigh in on that, and then I

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Speaker 4: want to plug all the fantastic work that you do.

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Speaker 12: South Korea has a snap presidential election on June three.

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Speaker 12: The front runner is a guy named E J Moon

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Speaker 12: of the Democratic Party of Korea. He's not only a leftist,

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Speaker 12: he's ruthless. And it is not impossible that six months

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Speaker 12: seven months time, South Korea could be a communist state. So, yes,

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Speaker 12: that is moving left. As a matter of fact, no

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Speaker 12: Korea could eventually be merged into North Korea. Yes, that's

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Speaker 12: how serious the situation is. I'm not saying it's going

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Speaker 12: to happen. I'm saying the risk of that happen is

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Speaker 12: much higher than most people think.

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Speaker 4: And I would think that the people of South Korea

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Speaker 4: are not very pleased about that. The people in South

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Speaker 4: Korea are going to elect you Jmum, and they know

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Speaker 4: who he is, so that's not going to be a

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Speaker 4: stolen election.

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Speaker 12: Well that's another story.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well we got forty five seconds. Hold on let's

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Speaker 1: hold that thought.

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Speaker 4: When we get back from the break, we're going to

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Speaker 4: dive into South Korea. But ladies and gentlemen, I want

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Speaker 4: to tell you something very important about Gordon Chang. A

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Speaker 4: he's like a brother to Donna and I, but for

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Speaker 4: you more importantly, he is always credible, always credible. And

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Speaker 4: when we came back on X, the first person that

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Speaker 4: we followed was Real America's voice because it's our network.

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Speaker 4: The second one was that man right there, any Gordon Chang.

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Speaker 4: Gordon Chang's with us in the bar, and we'll be

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Speaker 4: back back with more.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Fill those medicine cabinets. Now, don't wait till you're sick.

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Speaker 5: It's important to remember that Tariffs aren't just tools for

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Speaker 5: trade wars. They're a key part of economic independence. Before

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Speaker 5: income tax was introduced in nineteen thirteen, tariffs were the

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Speaker 5: main source of revenue for the US government. This allowed

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Speaker 5: the country to fund itself and grow without directly taxing citizens.

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Speaker 5: Tariffs protect American workers and industries from being undercut by

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Speaker 5: low cost, lower quality foreign goods, allowing American businesses.

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Speaker 1: To compete and thrive.

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Speaker 5: By levying tariffs, we maintain jobs and encourage domestic production,

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Speaker 5: both crucial for national security and prosperity. Tariffs also help

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Speaker 5: the US negotiate better trade deals, pushing other countries to

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Speaker 5: lower their trade barriers in exchange. So who would oppose tariffs? Globalists,

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Speaker 5: corrupt politicians, and crooked elites whose only care is wealth

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Speaker 5: and power. They take advantage of cheap labor and lacks

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Speaker 5: regulations abroad. They take itvantage of you. Enough is enough.

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Speaker 5: Tariffs are about valuing our workers, our consumers, and our nation.

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Speaker 5: Let's keep jobs in America and use tariffs the way

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Speaker 5: our forefathers did to protect our economy and our future.

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Speaker 5: We need strong economic policies. We need tariffs, not taxes.

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Speaker 5: We need to put America first. And begin a new

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Speaker 5: golden age.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to cawboy logic, everybody.

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Speaker 4: As I was saying before we went to break, when

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Speaker 4: we came back on X, this was the second guy

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Speaker 4: we followed, And the only reason that he wasn't the

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Speaker 4: first is because we're on Real America's Voice. We kind

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Speaker 4: of felt obligated to follow them first. But within a

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Speaker 4: nano second of that, we were following Gordon. I am

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Speaker 4: strongly suggesting that, with regards to all things Asia, you

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Speaker 4: want to be the smartest person in whatever room you're in,

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Speaker 4: follow this guy.

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Speaker 3: At Gordon g Chang, you know, Gordon Gordon.

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Speaker 4: I'll get you our mailing address so you can send

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Speaker 4: me a check for that after the show.

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Speaker 3: Here's what distresses me, all these endless wars that we

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Speaker 3: send our blood and treasure to fail. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: just lost my father in law, who was a Korean vet.

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Speaker 3: I mean to say, now that Korea is it is

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Speaker 3: possibly going to be merged Vietnam, we failed in Afghanistan.

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Speaker 3: We've really failed everywhere since World War Two pretty much.

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Speaker 3: And if this isn't so in your face to the

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Speaker 3: American people at this time, at this point, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what is. But this is very scary.

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Speaker 1: So we were South Korea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you were saying that it's possible the elections can

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Speaker 3: be stolen. Gee, imagine that.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's especially bad in South Korea because it appears

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Speaker 12: I can't prove it, but it appears that the Democratic

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Speaker 12: Party at Korea, which is known as Minju, has been

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Speaker 12: cooperating with China's Communist party to develop the algorithms to

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Speaker 12: steal elections. South Korea has an election system with early

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Speaker 12: voting that is particularly vulnerable to stealing and the result.

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Speaker 12: There have been three national elections where there's been evident

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Speaker 12: voter fraud twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 12: In two of those elections, twenty twenty and twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 12: voter fraud actually changed results. It didn't change the result

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Speaker 12: in twenty twenty two, but it almost did. So, Yes,

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Speaker 12: there's the problem voter fraud. But you know, the South

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Speaker 12: Korean population, they're unhappy with the conservatives, and you know,

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Speaker 12: there's a lot of reasons to be unhappy with the

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Speaker 12: conservative faction in South Korean society. But the point is

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Speaker 12: that ej Moon is not only a leftist. There have

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Speaker 12: been leftist presidents before. The difference is that he is

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Speaker 12: absolutely determined to basically end democracy, where previous left presidents

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Speaker 12: were content to be sort of milk toast about it.

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Speaker 12: So this is a problem that I don't think that

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Speaker 12: we in Americans understand, and the Trump administration, I think,

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Speaker 12: is going to be caught a little bit flat footed

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Speaker 12: on this. They know about the problem, though they don't

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Speaker 12: know exactly what to do about it.

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Speaker 3: It kind of sounds like so many elections all around

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Speaker 3: the world.

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Speaker 4: Really are you Are you able to on any type

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Speaker 4: of a semi regular basis advise members of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 12: Only if they ask. I know, I tweet, I write,

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Speaker 12: and I hope they hear what I say. I tend

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Speaker 12: to think that they do. But you know, for me,

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Speaker 12: it's I just do what I can, and you know,

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Speaker 12: then it's in God's hands.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's called you out. I remember in

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Speaker 3: some of the rallies and I remember thinking, Hey, I know, Gordon,

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Speaker 3: well cool is that clearly?

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Speaker 4: Clearly he knows, he knows who you are, and he

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Speaker 4: knows and there's a reason why he knows who you are.

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Speaker 4: The question is, Rubio, why aren't you tap and Gordon Chang,

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Speaker 4: you know's what's going on here.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's okay. I mean, I've got my hands full

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Speaker 12: of just trying to keep up with what's going on,

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Speaker 12: and you know, I am you know, I'm very happy

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Speaker 12: to be talking to you because that gets out to

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Speaker 12: the American people, and the American people really important because

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Speaker 12: you know, as people say, in our democracy, no foreign

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Speaker 12: policy is sustainable without the long term support of the

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Speaker 12: American people. So it's really important for you know, to

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Speaker 12: talk to you guys, because you guys have reach. So

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Speaker 12: I'm very appreciative of being able to speak here today.

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Speaker 3: So as far as the entire thing with the trade

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Speaker 3: war and the deficit and everything else in the tariffs,

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Speaker 3: what do you think is going to be the outcome

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Speaker 3: of this because in all of these cases we're hearing,

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Speaker 3: you know, big beautiful deals are being made and then

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, not to me, that's how Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump operates. He you know, he pushes, then he pushes back,

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Speaker 3: he pushes. So I just kind of, you know, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to see how the sausage is made, just

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Speaker 3: I just want to be able to eat it with

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Speaker 3: a little bit of onions and peppers. That would be fine.

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Speaker 12: The answer to that question is really it's up to

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Speaker 12: President Trump. The Chinese have lost agency. They no longer

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Speaker 12: control what's going on. C. Drimping is in a very

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Speaker 12: difficult place. As I mentioned, the Chinese economy almost certainly

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Speaker 12: control acting. Now it's in a deflationary spiral, which means

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Speaker 12: that there are no good outcomes. Also, remember China is

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Speaker 12: the smaller economy than ours. They're less than two thirds

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Speaker 12: the size of the American economy. They're also the trade

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Speaker 12: surplus country. Last year, China's merchandise trade surplus against the

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Speaker 12: US was two hundred and ninety five point four billion dollars.

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Speaker 12: That was up five point eight percent from twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 12: In trade wars, trade surplus countries always get hurt because

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Speaker 12: they've got everything to lose.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 12: The only card that Sigian Ping has because everything China

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Speaker 12: can do to retaliate, and it can do a lot

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Speaker 12: of stuff, but everything China can do to retaliate hurts

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Speaker 12: China as much or more China than it hurts us.

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Speaker 12: There's only one thing sigein Pin can do, and that

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Speaker 12: is to get the American people to pressure President Trump

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Speaker 12: to preemptively surrender. If that happens, China wins. But I

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Speaker 12: don't think Trump is going to surrender. I think Trump

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Speaker 12: is absolutely determined because he believe leaves he is on

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Speaker 12: a mission to protect the American worker. He's a member.

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Speaker 12: In the campaign, he talked about McKinley and tariffs. I mean,

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Speaker 12: how many Americans talk about that in any form, not,

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Speaker 12: you know, certainly not on the campaign trail. So he

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Speaker 12: believes in this, and so I think he's going to prevail,

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Speaker 12: you know.

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Speaker 3: Real quick. Amazon apparently thought they were going to hurt

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump by saying what was made in China and

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Speaker 3: what wasn't. In my opinion, I think that's awesome because

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Speaker 3: now I know when not to buy.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, you know, if Amazon wants transparency, which is

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Speaker 12: what they said about putting listing the tariff price, then

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Speaker 12: these guys should list the country of origin where this

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Speaker 12: craft comes from, exactly as country of origin labeling, and

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Speaker 12: it should be required by all of these websites, including Amazon.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's awesome.

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Speaker 10: Did you have another guess?

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Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to get into tariffs.

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Speaker 4: At the beginning of this segment, you guys got to

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Speaker 4: see kind of a tariffs one oh one bumper that

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Speaker 4: we played and Gordon, because you're a genius on all

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Speaker 4: levels in my opinion, What are your thoughts on the

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Speaker 4: tariffs just broad stroke.

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Speaker 12: Well, absolutely, we have to have those tariffs. We can't

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Speaker 12: allow China to steal intellectual property to the tune of

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Speaker 12: half trillion dollars a year. We can't allow the Chinese

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Speaker 12: to engage in these increasingly predatory tactics because you know,

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Speaker 12: American communities have been devastated by the loss of factories

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Speaker 12: and that's the loss of hope, that's the loss of

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Speaker 12: the future. So this is a struggle that we have.

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Speaker 12: Remember we have had injurious China policies for three decades.

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Speaker 12: We've had injurious trade policies for three decades. We're not

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Speaker 12: going to get out of this without some pain. And

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Speaker 12: President Trump is as good as his word. You know,

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Speaker 12: we had a lot of presidents, especially Obama, talk about

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Speaker 12: China being a problem with trade. They didn't do anything.

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Speaker 12: Trump is the only person to do something. So we

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Speaker 12: Americans need to stand behind our president. I know a

741
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Speaker 12: lot of people don't like him, it doesn't matter. We've

742
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Speaker 12: only got one commander in chief. This is not peacetime.

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Speaker 12: This is one of the most dangerous points of history.

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Speaker 12: We need to stand behind our president and this is historic.

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Speaker 3: And this is what is so humiliating to me when

746
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: I talk to some friends. Oh you know, it's a mess,

747
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah blah, Like this didn't happen overnight.

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Speaker 3: This happened over decades, and you've got one hundred days

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Speaker 3: you want this thing fixed. Gordon, unfortunately, we're already out

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Speaker 3: of time. Folks find him at Gordon Chang dot com

751
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Speaker 3: on ex Twitter whatever, at Gordon g. Chang and he

752
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: always has some great information there and his books. The

753
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Speaker 3: latest one you see there Plan Read China's Project to

754
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: Destroy America. That's his latest. But he's got a whole

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Speaker 3: library of great books on this whole area. And full disclosure,

756
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Speaker 3: we went to the same high school. But you know what,

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Speaker 3: Gordon obviously went on to bigger and better things law

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Speaker 3: school and now.

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Speaker 5: You know he is what he is.

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Speaker 1: Hey it with this.

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Speaker 4: Next time we're in Jersey, we're doing a diner with you, right,

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Speaker 3: Maybe the Barn Party, the.

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Speaker 4: Barn Party drummers, just like you saw last week, Sean Perrish,

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Speaker 4: I mean President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Acknowledged how great you Barn Party drummers are. Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: We are going to get right to business.

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Speaker 4: I probably should say Danna's name, Uh, but we're going

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Speaker 4: to get right to business because we have got an

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Speaker 4: interview here that we have waited now at least a year,

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Speaker 4: if not longer, to be able to hold. And I

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Speaker 4: reached out to this gentleman and uh, through a few conversations, Uh,

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Speaker 4: he agreed to come on the show. And we're going

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Speaker 4: to give you J six from a big time different perspective.

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Speaker 4: We have got former Lieutenant Capitol Police Tark Johnson, that

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Speaker 4: is joining us.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 1: You probably remember how you doing, my friend? How what

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Speaker 1: are you doing?

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Speaker 9: I'm doing good? How you guys doing to We're good.

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Speaker 4: You probably remember an interview that he did with Tucker Carlson,

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Speaker 4: and ironically, within.

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Speaker 1: Hours after that, Tucker was gone from Fox. If I'm

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Speaker 1: not wrong, that.

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Speaker 3: Seems to be the moo Tucker. I got to tell

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Speaker 3: your toxic.

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Speaker 1: Listen very briefly.

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Speaker 4: Back when Tucker was granted access to the forty seven

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Speaker 4: thousand hours of footage, two of his producers reached out

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Speaker 4: to us, and I spent about an hour and a

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Speaker 4: half on the phone with them, and I said, you

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Speaker 4: can do this one of two ways, gentlemen. You can

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Speaker 4: go in there and try to figure out heads from

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Speaker 4: tails on all of this footage, and you will be

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Speaker 4: lost in a quagmire footage. Or you can reach out

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Speaker 4: to some subject matter experts that I considered to be

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Speaker 4: subject matter experts, you know, Jeff McKellop, A Dan Caldwell,

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Speaker 4: a Kelly Megs, these guys that had nothing to do

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Speaker 4: for days and weeks and months. But look at that

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Speaker 4: footage while they were in C two B and they

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Speaker 4: didn't take me up on it, and before you know it,

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Speaker 4: Tucker was gone. But I guarantee you, even somebody with

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Speaker 4: a trained die like you goes in and tries to

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Speaker 4: look at that footage.

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Speaker 1: It's going to take you a lifetime over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again. At any rate. Welcome, sir, to Cowboy Logic.

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Speaker 4: We are going to discuss something that you laid out

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Speaker 4: a while back beautifully so that everybody can understand this,

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Speaker 4: and that is the hierarchy of the Capitol Police Department,

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Speaker 4: in which you've got the chief and at the time

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Speaker 4: it was chief sounned, and then you've got two assistant chiefs.

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Speaker 4: You've got Pittman, who was in charge of intel, and

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Speaker 4: then you've got Thomas, who was in charge of operations.

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Speaker 4: And this is very very important that you guys listened

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Speaker 4: to what I'm gonna call you, TK man.

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Speaker 1: I heard you go by TK am. I right, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, here we go.

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Speaker 4: TK is going to lay this out to you in

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Speaker 4: layman terms so that you all understand what went wrong

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Speaker 4: on J six.

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Speaker 1: TK have at it, sir.

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Speaker 9: Okay. So I'll start just to let the audience know

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Speaker 9: that I was a member of the Capitol Police for

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Speaker 9: twenty three and a half years. I achieved the rank

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Speaker 9: of sergeant and I'm sorry, let's go back. I was

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Speaker 9: a special agent. I got that rank in two thousand

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Speaker 9: and three. I got promoted to sergeant in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 9: I'm sorry two thousand and four, and I got promoted

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Speaker 9: to lieutenant in twenty eighteen. When I was promoted to lieutenant,

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Speaker 9: I was assigned to the Capitol Division, And on January sixth,

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Speaker 9: my job was I was the commander of routine operations

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Speaker 9: in the Capitol while they were counting the electorial votes

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Speaker 9: on January sixth. So that was my job. So twenty

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Speaker 9: three and a half years.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot.

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Speaker 9: I know, Like I said, twenty three and a half years.

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Speaker 9: So just to give you an idea of what January

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Speaker 9: six was, it was a nothing day. We expected absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 9: I had planned on leaving early that day because I

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Speaker 9: knew that I knew that it was going to be nothing.

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Speaker 9: We had very little to no intail of anything that

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Speaker 9: was sposed to occur, and that's what I thought it was.

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Speaker 9: So we found out, you know, and I don't have

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Speaker 9: to go as far as what happened, because everybody knows

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Speaker 9: what happened on January sixth. So now we're trying to

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Speaker 9: dig out what actually occurred on January sixth. So let

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Speaker 9: me give you the structure. So you had Chief Stephen

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Speaker 9: Stun who was the chief of the entire Capitol Police,

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Speaker 9: in charge of Yoga Nan Depictment, who was the commander

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Speaker 9: of Intaeil, and she was he was in charge of

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Speaker 9: He was the direct supervisor of Chad Thomas, who was

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Speaker 9: the assistant chief in charge of the Operations where I

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Speaker 9: worked at. So operations have to device and a plan

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Speaker 9: to secure the capital based on the information given to

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Speaker 9: them by the Intel section. So the Intel section basically said,

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Speaker 9: you got gonna do anything to worry about. It's fine,

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Speaker 9: you know. So operations on that day we were working

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Speaker 9: with the skeleton crew because we expected absolutely nothing. So

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Speaker 9: Thomas was totally saying bag he didn't get the information.

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Speaker 9: We found out after January sixth that Pittman and her

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Speaker 9: deputy Sean Gallagher had the intail around December twentieth, almost

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Speaker 9: three weeks before January sixth. So they had the intail.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you, Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. What intel did they have?

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Speaker 9: They had the intel, what was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Or do you have any idea what that intel said?

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Speaker 9: Yes, the report said that people want to store on

880
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 9: the capitol, break in, take the subways, everything.

881
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 4: So but the intel you were provided with said that

882
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 4: this was going to be a low impact or a

883
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Speaker 4: low it was.

884
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 9: Burger like a regular event.

885
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 3: They downplayed it. So they downplayed it when they knew

886
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: millions of people might even show up a yui.

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00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 4: Okay, and I don't want to keep interrupting you, but

888
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 4: they had this intel as early as.

889
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Speaker 9: What date, December to twentieth boom?

890
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so picture this, ladies and gentlemen.

891
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 4: You got Chief Son, you got Pittman, who's the assistant

892
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 4: chief of Intel. And it's the role of intel to

893
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 4: provide operations. Who assistant Chief Thomas was in charge of

894
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Speaker 4: and what TK worked under provide operations with that intel

895
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Speaker 4: so that they could properly prepare.

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Speaker 1: Is that a good way to put it?

897
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 9: That is exactly correct?

898
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: All right?

899
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Speaker 9: Keep going, Okay, so now we're there. So now the

900
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 9: intel was there at the report. You can look it up.

901
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 9: Believe it's public. It's twenty one TD one point fifty

902
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Speaker 9: nine and it basically laid out what was going to occur.

903
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 9: Pittman had that information and did not give it to

904
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Speaker 9: either Chief Son, who was the chief of the Capitol Police,

905
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Speaker 9: or Chad Thomas, who was in charge of the Operations Bureau.

906
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Speaker 9: So neither one of those two individuals had it. What

907
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 9: makes it even worse is that days before, leading up

908
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 9: to January sixth, Chief's son was trying to get National

909
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 9: Guard support on Capitol Hill that day, but the Senate

910
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 9: Sergeant at Arms and the House Egeant at Arms, the

911
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 9: House eget Arms his name is his name was par Irving.

912
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Speaker 9: The Senate Sergeant Arms was Michael Stinger. They told Son

913
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Speaker 9: that he did not have the intel that articulated the

914
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Speaker 9: need for the National Guard. Even though Pittman had it,

915
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Speaker 9: she didn't give it to him. So he was denied

916
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Speaker 9: the national Guard, or denied the ability to request the

917
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Speaker 9: National Guard from Berving and Stinger.

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Speaker 4: Okay, hold that hold that thought too, Hold that thought too,

919
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 4: because this is this is critical because not only not

920
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 4: only did sund feel like it would be important to

921
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Speaker 4: have national Guard, Trump requested it and suggested it.

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Speaker 1: And I can tell you after conducting probably.

923
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Speaker 4: Close to two hundred interviews with jan six ers, the

924
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Speaker 4: vast majority of them behind bars. Every one of them said,

925
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Speaker 4: none of this would have happened. If those protesters would

926
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Speaker 4: have walked up and stood in front of national guard,

927
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Speaker 4: none of that would have happened.

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Speaker 3: And but my big question is, well, we got a

929
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: minute here. Did Donald Trump get that intel? Or did

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00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: did Pittman hold it from him?

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Speaker 9: Biggest thing? So now that was huge, okay, President Trump.

932
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Speaker 9: And I was listening to the I read the reports.

933
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Speaker 9: I was listening when they had the public interviews for

934
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Speaker 9: January sixth, the j sixth Select Committee, and I'm waiting

935
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Speaker 9: for them to say Donald Trump had that information. He

936
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Speaker 9: never had the intail. So if he never had the intaeil,

937
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Speaker 9: how can you blame him for it? If he never

938
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Speaker 9: had the intail?

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Speaker 1: Exactly? All right, So hold on right, we're gonna go

940
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: break here, ladies and gentlemen.

941
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Speaker 4: We have waited a long time to bring this great

942
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 4: man on here, and and you talking about courage. We're

943
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 4: gonna find out what this has cost him by opening

944
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Speaker 4: his mouth and talking about this.

945
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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out what it's cost him.

946
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Speaker 4: And it is reprehensible that best ladies and gentlemen, we've

947
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Speaker 4: got t K. Tark Johnson, Capitol Police, former Capitol Police

948
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Speaker 4: lieutenant in.

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Speaker 1: The barn with us. We'll be right back. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Cawboy Logic. Ladies and gentlemen, we have got a

951
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Speaker 1: very special.

952
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Speaker 4: Four segments the entire hour with Tark Johnson, former Capitol

953
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Speaker 4: Police lieutenant. And again, sir, not only do I appreciate

954
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Speaker 4: you being here, I appreciate you trusting us enough with

955
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 4: your story to come on the show with us, because

956
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 4: we greatly appreciate that, and we value not only the

957
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 4: role that you played to protect everybody that you touched

958
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: on Jay six but also that you are willing to

959
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 4: speak out the truth because that's the bottom line.

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01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: You know, you said in one.

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Speaker 4: Interview that you're not looking for accountability, but you are

962
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 4: looking for the truth so that everybody that was wronged on.

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Speaker 1: January sixth can be made whole.

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Speaker 4: Now that was a paraphrase quote for you, but I agree, man,

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Speaker 4: you know, and I think that we got a.

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Speaker 1: Ways to go to get this truth out.

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Speaker 4: But you brought up in the last segment the sergeant

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Speaker 4: at arms for both the House and the Senate, and

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Speaker 4: very briefly, those individuals are selected by whichever party is

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Speaker 4: controlling the House or the Senate at that time. So

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Speaker 4: if you've got Democrat control of the House and the Senate,

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Speaker 4: you're going to have a Democrat chosen sergeant at arms

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Speaker 4: for both. But they are part of an extremely powerful

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Speaker 4: entity and that's called the Capitol Police Board.

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Speaker 1: And we have been told by a mutual.

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Speaker 4: Friend, Steve, along with other J six lawyers, that that

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Speaker 4: Capitol Police Board wields more power than Congress itself.

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Speaker 1: And you want to explain that a little bit, well.

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Speaker 9: I would say not not Congress as a whole, you know,

980
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 9: because Congress can still dictate who's going to be the

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Speaker 9: sergeant at arms. So but the position is very, very powerful.

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Speaker 9: The you have the House to sergeant in arms, you

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Speaker 9: have the Senate sergeant in arms, like you said, and

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Speaker 9: you pretty much laid it out. But they can be removed.

985
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Speaker 9: But yes, they control the Capitol Police and who's going

986
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Speaker 9: to be the Capitol Police chief. So a member of

987
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 9: the Capitol Police Board is more powerful than an average

988
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 9: member of Congress, yes, you know, but no, not Speaker

989
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 9: Mike Johnson or the Speaker of the House or you know,

990
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 9: the minority leader. So they're not leadership, but they're still

991
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 9: powerful individuals, very powerful individuals, and a lot of times

992
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Speaker 9: people don't understand that just because you don't know who

993
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Speaker 9: these people are or what positions that they hold, they're

994
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Speaker 9: still very very powerful people. And the people on the

995
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Speaker 9: Capitol Police ward are very very powerful.

996
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Speaker 4: All right, Let's go back to Pittman then, and Thomas

997
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 4: and Son for that matter. Okay, because from what I

998
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 4: can tell, and ladies and gentlemen, you can see you

999
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 4: can see Tk's social media his ex account there. I

1000
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 4: strongly urge you to follow him. He's very regular at posting.

1001
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 4: And again, you got to understand the level of courage

1002
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Speaker 4: that this man has. He has basically become a whistleblower

1003
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Speaker 4: for Capitol Police and the wrongs that took place at

1004
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Speaker 4: the upper echelons with the most powerful people in the

1005
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 4: Capitol Police. Pittman ends up not passing on intel to

1006
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Speaker 4: operations causing havoc that day, and.

1007
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Speaker 1: She gets promoted along with Gallagher who gets.

1008
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Speaker 4: Promoted, and then the promote Son is terminated and Thomas

1009
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Speaker 4: is terminated. Let's get into that a little bit, because

1010
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 4: it seems like if you do something to fairs, you

1011
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Speaker 4: get promoted.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well yeah, and people have to understand, and I

1013
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 9: wish you know. But you know, I though sometimes I

1014
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 9: go back and think people really want to know what

1015
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 9: really occurred on January six I'm not one hundred percent

1016
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 9: sure that the majority of the country really wants to

1017
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 9: know what occurred on January sixth, Because when you really

1018
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 9: look at just a little piece of information that I've

1019
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 9: given you guys, and the information that you've heard Steve Baker, Pittman,

1020
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Speaker 9: Sean Gallagher withheld critical intel. They were supposed to give

1021
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 9: that critical intel to Son and Thomas. They did not.

1022
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 9: Thomas and Son were basically kicked off the department. It

1023
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 9: was not Sun, but Thomas was forced to sign the NDA.

1024
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 9: I was told Son has spoken out. You have never

1025
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 9: seen anything from Thomas. Thomas was in charge of operations.

1026
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 9: How come he doesn't testify for the Jay Sis Select Committee.

1027
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 9: How Come he's not testifying publicly publicly in any committee

1028
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 9: because he's nobody even knows. I don't even know where

1029
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 9: he's at now. But I think that if people really

1030
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 9: want to start figuring out what really occurred on January sixth,

1031
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 9: you will probably want to start with him.

1032
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Speaker 4: So you're saying that, if say Jim Jordan decides he's

1033
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 4: going to do something productive.

1034
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Speaker 1: What needs to happen is he needs to put Sun

1035
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Speaker 1: and Thomas.

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Speaker 4: They need to be subpoened, they need to be sworn in,

1037
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Speaker 4: and they need to testify of exactly what with regard

1038
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 4: to them transpired on Jay six, because they got they.

1039
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Speaker 1: Got canned on January eighth, I take eight hours later was.

1040
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Speaker 9: The son was now Thomas was still there, but he

1041
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 9: was basically muted. He didn't say anything. And then eventually

1042
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Speaker 9: I think a couple months later, he got the.

1043
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Speaker 3: Boot and Yogananda Pittman got promoted to Berkeley, which just

1044
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Speaker 3: happens to be Nancy Pelosi's district to do something you know,

1045
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 3: their security wise, but it does seem if you told

1046
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Speaker 3: the narrative you got rewarded.

1047
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 9: Well, I don't think it was actually Nancy Pelosi's district,

1048
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Speaker 9: but I think it was.

1049
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Speaker 1: It was another cover oka.

1050
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Speaker 9: But she did get taken care of one. And when

1051
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Speaker 9: she got that job, she was actually still employeed with

1052
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Speaker 9: the Capitol Police, so she had she was the chief

1053
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Speaker 9: of that department California, Berkeley, and she was still the

1054
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Speaker 9: assistant chief of the Capitol Police.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good of you can get it.

1056
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: I need to read I got to put on my

1057
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Speaker 1: X ray respects to read this this note.

1058
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Speaker 4: Are some of our very trusted Jay sixers that have

1059
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Speaker 4: appeared on our show. Claimed that there was someone calling

1060
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Speaker 4: the shots that day. Okay, And and if you if

1061
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 4: you vision envisioned this as a control center, a command

1062
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Speaker 4: center that was calling the shots of what of what

1063
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Speaker 4: to do or what not to do, that would be

1064
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Speaker 4: either Pittman or Thomas. And Thomas didn't have the proper

1065
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 4: information to be making decisions anyway. He was probably flying

1066
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 4: by the seat of his pants when he saw what happened.

1067
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Speaker 4: But you said that on the comms channel that you

1068
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Speaker 4: were listening to, you were hearing repeated cries for help

1069
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Speaker 4: from uniformed officers and crickets from the command nothing.

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Speaker 1: Can you expand on that?

1071
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Speaker 9: We were a street We were ignored. And I was

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Speaker 9: angry even after the curb. I was angry at Son

1073
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Speaker 9: because I was like, why wasn't he responded on the radio.

1074
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Speaker 9: But then I found out later he was directing other

1075
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Speaker 9: resources to the capitol so we could get some help,

1076
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Speaker 9: so we could start to de escalate the situation. Pittman

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Speaker 9: Gallagher had the intail. There were other commanders in there,

1078
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Speaker 9: and a lot of those guys didn't really do anything either,

1079
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Speaker 9: but it's hard to blame them directly when they didn't

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Speaker 9: have the intail. So when it comes to what occurred

1081
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Speaker 9: on that day, a lot of people could have done

1082
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Speaker 9: a lot of things. Different officers, officials, demonstrators, everybody could

1083
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Speaker 9: have done things differently, but none of us expected what occurred,

1084
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Speaker 9: with the exception of Gallagher who had the intail and

1085
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Speaker 9: Pittman who had the intail. So when you had the

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Speaker 9: demonstrators on the ground they would come to the Capitol,

1087
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Speaker 9: they had no idea they were being set up, you know.

1088
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Speaker 9: And then the officers on the ground from Metropolitan and

1089
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Speaker 9: the Capitol, they had no idea they were being set up.

1090
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Speaker 9: So and even some of the officials in the command

1091
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Speaker 9: center they had no idea that Pittman and Gallagher had

1092
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Speaker 9: this intail and knew what was going to happen in advance. So,

1093
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Speaker 9: you know, Son did the best that he could, and

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Speaker 9: like I said, I had no issues with him. He

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Speaker 9: did what he could. Pittman and Gallagher, that's my issue

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Speaker 9: and that's what my focus.

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Speaker 3: It took four years to come out.

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Speaker 4: We got we got less than a minute and a

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Speaker 4: half before we got to go to break. I feel

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Speaker 4: like this is a million dollar question here. You may

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Speaker 4: or may not know the answer to this.

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Speaker 9: So do I get a direct deposit after answer?

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Speaker 1: You might, you might set up.

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Speaker 3: Against and go, it might bounce. It'll probably bounce.

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Speaker 4: Okay, who was directing Pittman to not provide Thomas and

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Speaker 4: Sunned with that intel?

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Speaker 9: That's the million dollar question. I'd even pay a million

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Speaker 9: and one for it. Pittman has to be asked that question,

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Speaker 9: in it in a deposition or under open That hasn't

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Speaker 9: happened yet.

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Speaker 3: Did she go before the Gen six committee at all?

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Speaker 9: I think she did closed hearings, So she did a

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Speaker 9: couple of I think she did a couple of public ones.

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Speaker 9: But I can tell you I think she did it

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Speaker 9: to gain the favor of Nancy Pelosi's why she didn't give.

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Speaker 1: The okay and that speculation.

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Speaker 4: I want to make sure everybody understands that you're I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's one thing to do what you're doing, it's another

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Speaker 4: thing to make sure that people understand that you're speculating

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Speaker 4: on something. All right, Yep, when we get back from

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Speaker 4: this break, you're gonna learn a little bit about what

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Speaker 4: this has cost Tark and his family because it's cost.

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Speaker 1: Them a lot. We've got Tark Johnson in the barn

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Speaker 1: with us J six coverage on Cowboy Logic. We'll be

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Speaker 1: right back.

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Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, don new and with GAP, but we're Logic

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01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 4: along with Robert Lego Man Morse and you're gonna get

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Speaker 4: the story behind Still There.

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Speaker 1: So long story short.

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Speaker 15: After I had had my entire life destroyed and thrown

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Speaker 15: into the DC GOO Lag, I was blown away with

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Speaker 15: the fact that we were going to sing our national

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Speaker 15: anthem at nine PM. So about a week of that

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Speaker 15: went by with tears in my eyes because of the

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Speaker 15: pride that I felt. I started screaming the lyrics still

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Speaker 15: there because after everything they had taken from me, and

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Speaker 15: after everything that I was willing to overcome, my faith

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Speaker 15: in my God, my faith in my country, and the

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Speaker 15: camaraderie that we had for one another and our families

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Speaker 15: was still there. So I screamed those lyrics and at

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Speaker 15: first they didn't like it, but after a while they

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Speaker 15: caught on and now it's part of the national anthem.

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Speaker 15: So I might have personally tweaked the national anthem for good.

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Speaker 1: For still there, all right, Welcome back, to Capitol Logic.

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Speaker 4: Everybody k in the barn with US Capital Police, former

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Speaker 4: Capitol Police lieutenant and what I would term as a

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Speaker 4: truth teller.

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily a whistleblower, but a truth teller. Tark.

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Speaker 4: What is this done to your family? What is this

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 4: done to your career? Because you are very outspoken about

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Speaker 4: getting the truth out.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm pretty outspoken. But yes, I had to forfeit

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Speaker 9: my career seventeen months away from full retirement. But for me,

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Speaker 9: and I took a heck of a pay cut. I

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Speaker 9: transferred to another federal agency. I can't really disclose where

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Speaker 9: I work at now because I would have to get

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Speaker 9: permission from them to talk about it publicly. But I

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Speaker 9: transferred to another federal agency so I can finish out

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Speaker 9: my years. But yes, I took a substantially large pay

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Speaker 9: cut and forfeited my law enforcement career, so I'm not

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Speaker 9: a police officer anymore. But I felt it was the

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Speaker 9: best thing to do because I knew what occurred on Janeuars,

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Speaker 9: since I knew the lies that were being told on television,

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Speaker 9: and when it was time for me to come back,

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01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 9: I didn't want to come back to them knowing what

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Speaker 9: I knew because I wanted to be on the right

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Speaker 9: side of his So I'm glad that I left them.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have integrity, sir.

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Speaker 3: In some of the videos, just real quick and it

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Speaker 3: was later on in the afternoon, you can clearly see

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01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: the Capitol Police and the Metro Police saying we were

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Speaker 3: set up, we were set up. This is a setup.

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Speaker 3: And again these are videos that took years to come out.

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Speaker 9: Because that's exactly what it was. Because it wasn't they

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Speaker 9: should have known. I mean, you can't have that many

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Speaker 9: people coming to Capitol Hill and have no intel on

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Speaker 9: it at all. So yeah, they were absolutely set up.

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Speaker 9: Hotels were being booked up all around the city and

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Speaker 9: nothing from the Intel section saying that this is going

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Speaker 9: to be bad when they had the information. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: they were angry because they were set up.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm going to go out on a limb there

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Speaker 4: and say that you were probably the only uniformed law

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Speaker 4: enforcement officer on Capitol grounds that day between Capitol Police

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Speaker 4: and MPD that was sporting.

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Speaker 1: A MAGA red ball cap, and.

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Speaker 12: You know it wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably spot on with that.

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Speaker 4: And I did say uniform because there were plain clothes

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Speaker 4: that were wearing them, okay, but.

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Speaker 1: In a uniform. You were the only guy.

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Speaker 9: Now, I was the only one.

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Speaker 4: You know, when you first look at that, you go, wow,

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Speaker 4: check out him, he's a Mega supporter. Well you weren't

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. You know you probably I think I

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Speaker 4: read your lifelong Democrat that left the Democrat Party after this,

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Speaker 4: But and you did say Trump twenty twenty four. I

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Speaker 4: think on your social media, give us the story about

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Speaker 4: the red Maga hat.

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Speaker 1: Why did you put it on?

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Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 4: Talk to us about your approaching and your discussions you

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Speaker 4: had with the oathkeepers.

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Speaker 9: Well, initially, I got a call that some of my

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Speaker 9: officers were trapped at the top of the steps, so

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Speaker 9: I tried to go up those steps to bring me

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Speaker 9: officers back down. And I went up the first time,

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Speaker 9: and on my way down that first time, someone he

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Speaker 9: was reaching over. I thought he was going to hit me,

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Speaker 9: and then he put the Mega hat on my head

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Speaker 9: and then he asked for the hat back, but I

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Speaker 9: said that I need the hat so I can get down.

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Speaker 9: And then another guy was trying to ask what the

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Speaker 9: communication was, and I was like, I got this Mega

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Speaker 9: hat and I'd like to keep it. But he wants

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Speaker 9: his hat back, so I don't know which. I can't

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Speaker 9: remember which hat I ended up with, but I kept

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Speaker 9: the hat. So I got down the steps and I

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Speaker 9: decided to keep the hat on because I had to

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Speaker 9: go back up there again. And I even announced on

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Speaker 9: the radio that I was wearing a mega hat so

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Speaker 9: my command staff would know that I had to hat on.

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Speaker 9: And I went up the steps. Well before I went

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Speaker 9: up the steps, a guy approached me and he would say, wow,

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Speaker 9: you know, what do you think about was going on

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Speaker 9: out here? Because he saw the red Mega haat And

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Speaker 9: I told him what I thought, and then I told

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Speaker 9: him that I needed some help to get up the steps,

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Speaker 9: and we had to help me, and we got up

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Speaker 9: steps and we were able to bring the officers back there.

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Speaker 1: And that was an oathkeeper that approached you down at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the steps. Am I correct?

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Speaker 9: I found out later that he was an oathkeeper. No,

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Speaker 9: I had not heard about the oath keepers until after that.

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Speaker 1: I got you.

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Speaker 4: All right, While we're on oathkeepers, let's get into some

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Speaker 4: of the problems that they encountered being their trial and

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Speaker 4: people that testified against him. Lazarus and Harry done yes

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Speaker 4: and we actually provided footage of the Stephen Horn footage

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Speaker 4: which is public domain, that showed the oath keepers were

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Speaker 4: actually standing in a semi circle protecting Harry Dunn, and

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Speaker 4: that conflicted with not only his second and third three

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Speaker 4: oh two form with the FBI, but also everything that

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Speaker 4: Lazarus had to say.

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Speaker 1: So why don't you get into that a little bit?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I heard there were two three oh two's conducted

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Speaker 9: with Harry Dunn, and I had not. I have not

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Speaker 9: seen even today either one of those three oh twos,

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Speaker 9: So I can't really say which one is the truth

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Speaker 9: because I didn't see either one. Now, Steve Baker beautifully

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Speaker 9: uncovered the lies or the some people would say lies.

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01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 9: I would call them lies. Some people may say he

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01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 9: just didn't remember. But he put hisself witnessing and interaction

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Speaker 9: with the oathkeepers and Harry Dunn at a time when

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Speaker 9: he wasn't even in the build. So to me, there's

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Speaker 9: no excuse for that to me as an outright lie,

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Speaker 9: and I and and nothing's happened, and there's no public

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01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 9: outrage for it. You know, I still don't understand that

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Speaker 9: even today. But he put hisself witnessing and alteration or

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Speaker 9: a contentious situation between Harry Dunn and the Othkeepers and

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Speaker 9: he was not there and there's no public outrage.

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Speaker 4: Well, the three O two's Dun's three O twos that

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Speaker 4: the Oathkeepers were privited to see went from the first one,

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Speaker 4: which is the Oathkeepers did nothing but help me to

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Speaker 4: the Oathkeepers were causing problems and were or threatening to

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Speaker 4: even worse that they you know, he feared for his

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Speaker 4: life from the Oathkeepers basically, and I'm paraphrasing them, and

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Speaker 4: then testified against him. And then Lazarus comes in and

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Speaker 4: talks about where he was when he wasn't And going

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Speaker 4: back to that footage, that Stephen Horn footage, Kelly Meggs

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Speaker 4: was sitting in the hole in d C post sentencing.

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Speaker 1: When he saw that for the.

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Speaker 4: First time on our show using Pluto TV on his tablet,

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Speaker 4: and he calls up and he goes, that's the footage

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Speaker 4: we were asking for.

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Speaker 1: I said, dude, it's on YouTube and it wasn't.

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Speaker 9: Allowed a question. You're talking about the footage of Steven

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Speaker 9: Lass not being there.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm talking about the footage of the oath Keepers

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Speaker 4: actually standing in a semi circle protecting Harry Dunn because

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Speaker 4: the footage that was provided.

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Speaker 9: Huh, they didn't get that information in trial.

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Speaker 4: No, the footage that they were provided with ironically stopped

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01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:34,520
Speaker 4: right before Stephen Horn got to them and then continued

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Speaker 4: up about eight or ten minutes down the road, and

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Speaker 4: the prosecution claimed that it was damaged. And the thing is, Man,

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Speaker 4: I don't Donna and I don't have access to evidence

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01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 4: dot com. We're not lawyers, Okay, So we had to

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01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 4: go find that footage that Stephen Horn two hour footage

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Speaker 4: on YouTube downloaded.

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Speaker 1: And then we could ab after the trial.

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Speaker 4: Meg's is evident in a discovery you know, that was

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Speaker 4: that was public domain at that point.

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01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: So we laid it in and we showed exactly what

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Speaker 1: they did. Yeah, they just stopped it. Man.

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Speaker 3: I mean the whole thing back you say, has been

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01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 3: a setup, a total setup. And then the sham j

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01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 3: six committee comes in and only picks and chooses, basically

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01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 3: cherry picks who they want to testify. They put it

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01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 3: on a prime time right when the oath Keeper one

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01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 3: trial was going on. So what do you think is

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01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 3: going to happen? I mean, it was almost one hundred

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 3: percent conviction rate as it was, but it was just

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01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 3: a total setup from start to finish of just everybody involved,

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01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 3: which makes it just so wrong on so many levels.

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Speaker 3: And yet we still don't have another real jan sixth

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Speaker 3: committee yet.

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Speaker 4: I got to ask you, we're going to break. I

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Speaker 4: got to ask you for a yes or no on this.

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Speaker 4: Were you ever asked to testify in any of the

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Speaker 4: oath Keeper trials.

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Speaker 9: I got subpoena and the Stewart Road trial.

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Speaker 4: Okay and okay, we're gonna run out of time on

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Speaker 4: this segment before you can answer that.

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Speaker 1: But I'd be very curious on what transpired during that testimony.

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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, we have got an amazing gentleman with us,

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Speaker 4: Tarique Johnson, former Capitol police officer.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more.

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Speaker 15: D You know what, after playing with my legos all

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Speaker 15: day long and signing these books, moisture has just been

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Speaker 15: sucked right out of my hands.

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Speaker 12: That happened.

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Speaker 1: That's happened.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 11: One of the things that I do is I keep

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Speaker 11: sugarcreek goods body butter with me at all times. One

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Speaker 11: of the things that you'll notice here is they've.

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Speaker 1: Got coconut oil shade butter, cocoa butter. They've got sweet

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Speaker 1: Almond oil, have fun lime oil, all those oils inside it.

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Speaker 15: Here here's my hand Baby's faux Silky Smooth Pillum Silky spoon.

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Speaker 11: So one of the things that's important about this is

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Speaker 11: although it has all those oil compounds in it, unlike

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Speaker 11: other brands, it doesn't leave you with that gleasy feeling.

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Speaker 1: Right, you don't feel like a slime bank. While you're

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Speaker 1: at it. You can also get some of their wonderful soaps.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I personally like the sweet Corn Indian and a

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Speaker 11: sweet Corn that they have, but that Romeo.

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Speaker 1: And Juliet's thest pretty good. Nice for going.

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Speaker 11: And if you order now and ask for the Cowboy

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Speaker 11: Logic package, give the promo Coach seventeen seventy six.

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Speaker 1: Not only can you save money, but.

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Speaker 11: All the profits and proceeds but the January sixth defense.

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Speaker 11: Thank you so much, Sugar Creek Goods.

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Speaker 12: We love you.

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01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 11: Thank you for everything you've done.

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01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 1: With the back ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: I think you'll agree that this is a special hour

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01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 4: that's shedding a lot of light on things, and all

1349
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 4: our Jay six brothers and sisters that are watching this,

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01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 4: I hope you're paying attention to what tk's.

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01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: Talking about here.

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01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 4: When we went to break, we are about to jump

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01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 4: into the Oathkeeper one trial. There were three of them,

1354
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen. The Oathkeeper one trial involved Jessica Watkins,

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01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,560
Speaker 4: Kenny Harrelson, Stuart.

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01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: Rhodes, Kelly Meggs, and somebody else. And i'mdrawing up BLANKO.

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Speaker 4: At any rate you testified in that trial. Would you

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01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 4: expand on that a little bit?

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Speaker 9: Well, I've got I was subpoena in the trial, so

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01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 9: for the prosecution. So they brought me in and they

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01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 9: wanted to do an interview. They wanted the Capitol Police

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01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 9: attorneys in there, and I said, I'm not talking about

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01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 9: anything if the Capitol Police has anybody in the room.

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01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 9: So then they said that we don't know if we

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01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 9: can do an interview. I said, fine, I'll leave. They

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01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 9: walked out. They came back in and said we're gonna

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Speaker 9: go ahead and do the interview even without the Capitol Police.

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01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 9: So we began. They showed me videos of what occurred

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01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 9: with the goalkeepers that were helping me, watching them go

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Speaker 9: up the steps, we watched them come back down, and

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Speaker 9: then they wanted to know what I thought about what

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Speaker 9: was occurring. And I told them unequivocally that they helped

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01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 9: me and I don't think I could have made it

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Speaker 9: up those steps, and they basically protected me going up

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01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 9: and down those steps one and to the FBI's credit,

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01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 9: they didn't had to give me a lie or say,

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01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 9: you know, I wouldn't have done it anyway. But I

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01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 9: told them that. And after that interview, they didn't want

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Speaker 9: me to test. So you never testified.

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Speaker 1: Shocking that they never had you come into the courtroom.

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Speaker 9: And I would have said just that. I would have

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01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 9: never lied to start, even though I know the DJ

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Speaker 9: was under you know, the buy An administration, I would.

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Speaker 1: Not have lied.

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Speaker 9: I would have told the truth right right.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's why they didn't want you in there.

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Speaker 3: But this shows you why even now prosecutors who are

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01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 3: leaving left and right are saying, well, you know, that's

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01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 3: because we can't agree with what's going on with the

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01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 3: new DJ. Yet they basically withheld evidence and did Brady

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Speaker 3: violations in numerous cases. And that's a perfect example.

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Speaker 9: And I think that they were like when I said, yes,

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01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 9: those people were agreed, there are hundreds and hundreds of

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01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 9: people that were agreed. On January sixth, demonstrators people who

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01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 9: were prosecute, the arrested and then prosecuted. And I think

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01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:06,719
Speaker 9: that we all know about the Ashley Babbitt settlement, depending settlement,

1397
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 9: but it's going to be a lot more settlements on

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Speaker 9: both sides of it.

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Speaker 1: And officers very quickly. A gentleman by the name of Manager.

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Speaker 12: Is that?

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01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: How you pronounce that?

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01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,759
Speaker 3: Thomas Manger, Thomas Major.

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01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 9: He's our angly the most corrupt politician in the country.

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01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 9: I know exactly who he is. He's the chief of catiplies.

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01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 3: Wow, And why do you say that, because this is

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01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 3: just a fact.

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Speaker 9: He is grew up to the core. He's the one

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01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 9: that was using his general counsel to not give out

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01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 9: that video footage. If it wasn't for him, the video

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01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 9: footage would have been out years ago. He was the

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01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 9: primary and keeping that footage out because all he had

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01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 9: to do was say, all right, release the footage and

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01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 9: it would have been released. They wouldn't have had to

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01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 9: fight it.

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01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 4: But we can't.

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01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 3: Can't Speaker Johnson do that?

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01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 9: Not if Major is telling them that if you release

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01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 9: this footage then you are compromising capital security. So not

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01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 9: even the Speaker of the House is going to go

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Speaker 9: against me. Because the Speaker of the House is not

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01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 9: an expert at security.

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Speaker 1: Major supposedly is and he was basically hired, am I correct?

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01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: To cover for Pittman and Gallagher.

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01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 9: That's why he was brought in to cover for them.

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Speaker 1: And he is acting chief of police or he is

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Speaker 1: the chief of police.

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Speaker 9: He's the chief of police, and he was hired to

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01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 9: do that job. And he did a wonderful job protecting.

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Speaker 3: Those two, protecting those two, all right, So is he

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Speaker 3: staying there or are they bringing somebody else in?

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Speaker 9: I don't know if you guys heard, but Roger Stone, uh,

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Speaker 9: and with one of his investigator reporters, broke a story

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01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 9: that Major was under his company called Major Holdings with

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Speaker 9: ye yes, defense contracting defense contracts, and currently he was

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01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 9: bringing in millions of dollars under his business from contracts

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Speaker 9: into the Biden administration.

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Speaker 1: So after that, all right, he froze up. We're hoping

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Speaker 1: we're going to get about there.

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Speaker 3: He goes, after that, what happened?

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Speaker 9: So I'll repeat it. So after after that story leaked

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01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 9: from Rogerstone and his investigative reporter, I think his name

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01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 9: was Thomas Smith, Major resigned after the story came out

1443
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 9: that his company was he was getting money. His company

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01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 9: was getting money millions of dollars from from the Biden

1445
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 9: administration defense contracts. I guess I don't know who they were,

1446
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,440
Speaker 9: but I heard the money was coming from the Biden administrations.

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01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 9: What I heard?

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Speaker 3: And how long ago was this? When did this occur?

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Speaker 9: This was between since he was the Capitol police chief

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01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,759
Speaker 9: from two dollars two thousand and one to probably present.

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01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 4: All right, all right, now you've got big concerns about

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01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 4: who potentially could take that spot.

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Speaker 1: Am I correct?

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Speaker 9: So I recently found out that Major, who was supposed

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01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 9: to step down yesterday, has decided to stay on a

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01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 9: little bit longer. So I think he wants to stay

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01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 9: ontil the end of the month so they can say,

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01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 9: I guess he wants to try to have a say

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Speaker 9: and who is going to be the next chief of police.

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Speaker 9: Major put out a letter the other day, and I

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Speaker 9: have a copy of the letter. I'll be posting that

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01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 9: on X probably in the probably by tomorrow morning, before

1463
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 9: the afternoon, I'll be posting that letter and Mainjiro after

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01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 9: the Ashley Babbitt settlement came out. But when I when

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01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 9: I say Major is totally a democratic operative that's exactly

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01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 9: what he is. He's all about the Democrats.

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01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 4: And that we need to worry about. Who do we

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01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 4: need to worry about? That that may fill his shoes.

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01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 9: Sean got If Shawn Gallagher, Shawn Gallagher takes over as

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Speaker 9: the chief, you can forget. January six will go down

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Speaker 9: in history as an insurrection caused by Donald Trump. If

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Speaker 9: Seawn Gallagher position is gonna make sure nothing comes out.

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Speaker 3: So it's meet the new boss, same as the old

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01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 3: boss doesn't. Doesn't you know, Speaker Johnson have any say

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Speaker 3: in this at all.

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01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 9: Shawn Gallagher is a very powerful individual, so as was,

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Speaker 9: as was Pittman, as Major is now and as even

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01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 9: though he's leaving, he still has power, and he's probably

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01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 9: trying to pull strings as to who's going to take

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01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 9: over because it's important because if the wrong person gets

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01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 9: in and Maine's position, then they going to uncover everything,

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01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 9: every dirty thing he did, it's going.

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01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 12: To come out.

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01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 4: And he who appoints that position, who appoints the chief

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01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:55,520
Speaker 4: of Capitol Police.

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01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 9: The Capitol Police Board does that, Okay.

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01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 3: So it's so the corruption is just so deep and

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01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 3: which is unbelievable, and you know, as lay people before

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01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 3: We got into this four and a half years ago

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01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 3: or so. You know, we just thought the Capitol Police

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01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 3: were there, and they you know, walked around the Capitol

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01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 3: and that's kind of who you see when you went

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01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 3: for your capital, you know whatever, when you visited the Capitol.

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01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:24,719
Speaker 3: But the amazing power that they have is eye opening.

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01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 3: It's totally eye opening. Do you feel they have more power?

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01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 3: Actually the Metro Police, at least right in that one

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01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 3: area by far.

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01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Metro Police doesn't have jurisdiction on Capitol grounds.

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01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 12: No.

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Speaker 4: The only way they are allowed to be there, and

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01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 4: the only way they were allowed to have been there

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01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 4: on January sixth, is if the Capitol Police Board requested

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01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 4: formally that they come onto the grounds to assist.

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01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 3: But that happened.

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01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: We don't know that that ever happened. Okay, and we're

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01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 1: gonna leave it. We're gonna leave it with that because

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01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,440
Speaker 1: we got to go. It was a formal.

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01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 9: Request, yes, son, because when everything broke out, he was

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01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,839
Speaker 9: trying to get help to de escalate the situation.

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01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, it is good to know because we couldn't

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01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: find any proof of that.

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01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Archie, thank you for being I

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01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 4: know you got to run and we'll close out the

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01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 4: show without you, buddy.

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01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 1: We appreciate you being here, man, and we hope to

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01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: have you back again. All right, we've lost him.

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01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 3: Ron was perfect timing.

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01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, please go follow this man on X.

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01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 4: He's put it all on the line to tell you

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01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 4: it's It would be so much easier for him to

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01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 4: have just gone away. Yeah, okay, and uh, all right,

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01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 4: we gotta go. We gotta go to the anthem. Gentlemen,

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01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 4: remove your hats. Ladies and gentlemen, hand over your hearts

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01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 4: for those beautiful national anthem efortsung that buy our beloved

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Speaker 4: Jay sixers. We'll see you next week, and we appreciate

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Speaker 4: the fact that you trusted us with two hours of

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Speaker 4: your valuable time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, guys. God bless.

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Speaker 12: And conserve.

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Speaker 7: What I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United

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Speaker 7: States of America.

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Speaker 1: Who is all ried and riding.

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Speaker 5: Your girl.

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Speaker 12: Mo swee

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Speaker 7: Square, and to the Republic for which it stands, one

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Speaker 7: nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all