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We will talk about what was said 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.920 in the funeral of George HW. Bush, and also updates 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.960 on the Muller probe, the sentencing of General Flynn. You 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.000 know more about that and much more coming up on 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.839 the buck Sexton Show. This is the buck Sexton Show 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.920 where the mission or mission is to decode what really 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:46.720 matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake, American, You're a 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:57.680 great American. Again the buck Sexton Show begins. Remember to email. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.440 He had a circle of friends with whom he shared 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:04.040 or received the latest jokes. His grading system for the 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:08.359 quality of the joke was classic George Bush. The rare 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:12.720 sevens and eighth were considered huge winners, most of them 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.480 off color. George Bush knew how to be a true 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.920 and loyal friend. He nurtured and honored many his many 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:25.919 friendships with a generous and giving soul. There exists thousands 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:29.919 of handwritten notes encouraging or sympathizing or thanking his friends 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:35.200 and acquaintances. He had an enormous capacity to give of himself. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:38.960 Many a person would tell you that Dad became a 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:43.959 mentor and a father figure in their life. He listened 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:50.400 and he consoled. He was their friend. That was Bush 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:55.200 forty three, George W. Speaking about his father who, as 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.280 he passed away just a few days ago to day 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.440 of morning today in the country officially laid the president 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.640 to arrest the National Cathedral at a ceremony where former 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:11.080 former and current presidents, where current president were in attendance. 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:17.280 And there's a moment of reflection. I think about the 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.359 the end of an eraor not just of George H. W. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.880 Bush as a man and as somebody who was so 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.000 involved in the history of this country in many ways, 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:35.280 but also for a certain style and type of leadership. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.440 The veterans of the Second World War, for example, when 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:44.360 you think of men like Bob Dole and George H. W. Bush, 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.160 you know, men who served and were part of what 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.720 we consider the Greatest Generation, would still called the greatest generation. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:56.240 There is a national reverence for that. That is one 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.240 of the few things these days that feels like it 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:04.880 somewhat transcends partisan lines, not always, not entirely. And we'll 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.560 talk a bit about some of the unfortunate part is 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:13.560 in sniping that has occurred as this ceremony was under 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.520 way and in the days leading up to it. But 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.240 it was also one of those moments when you could 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.680 see people who we're all we know best from the 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:30.760 public stage as politicians, as as leaders, as people of 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.200 service to the nation, but also of power and influence. 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.320 And you know, you saw George Bush today as as 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.640 just a guy who lost his dad, And that was 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.960 first and foremost. What was was coming across during much 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.839 of the eulogy is something that we can all sympathize with. 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.320 Whenever you see somebody who's lost to family member. It's 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.960 at that most basic human level of the emotion that 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.640 you know you would feel or have felt from losing 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.440 a family member in your own life. It's something that 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.800 happens to all of us. It's part of human condition. 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:06.080 But that inherent suffering that comes with the loss of 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.960 family members is also one of those areas of life 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.440 that in a strange way, it brings us all together. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:18.000 It's it's pain that we can all understand and all 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.800 all respect that what that means and what one is 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.960 going through. And along with the celebration, and there were 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.120 celebratory aspects of the eulogy today as well. I mean 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.560 I've I remember I've been to a I went to 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:35.440 a couple of funerals growing up for peers, friends of 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:39.440 mine too, in particular that come to mind. That was 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.480 very different in the sense that those funerals, those were 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.280 people who were one was in high school, one was 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.000 in college, and it was a remembrance, and there was 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.159 a celebration aspect of those lives and how they touched 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:56.240 their family members and their friends. But obviously lives cut 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:01.000 way too short with George H. W. Bush and doesn't 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.479 get any I mean, a life doesn't get any fuller, richer, 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:10.680 more impactful than this in many ways. I mean, okay, 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.360 some of you would say, Buck, come on, you know Jesus. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.960 I mean there are people that yeah, but you know, 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.400 you know, the man just passed away. This is when 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.640 you're eulogizing somebody, you'll say things like it doesn't get 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.280 any life does not get any richer than this, and 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.680 we don't have to actually measure out what lives may 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:30.800 have been more impactful. Bush forty three also had some 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:35.039 some more you know, just a regular guy touches that 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.920 he added into things today. Plick clip one at age ninety, 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.800 George H. W. Bush parachuted out of an aircraft and 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.520 landed on the grounds of Saint Anne's by the Sea 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.919 and Kenny Budport, Maine, the church where his mom was 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:56.359 married and where he worshiped often. I would like to 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:00.200 say he chose a location just in case the shooting. No. 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:10.679 In his nineties, he took great delight when his closest pal, 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:15.200 James A. Baker, smuggled a bottle of Gray Goose vodka 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:20.120 into his hospital room. Apparently it paired well with the 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:26.360 state Baker had delivered from Morton's to his very last 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:34.040 Day's Dad's life was instructive, so laughter coming together of 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.840 the people there, and that that part of it was 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.760 all the man. The man got the celebration of his 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.840 life that he deserved today, and I think it was 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.760 it was nice for the country. I had friends who 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:53.120 went to pay their respects here in DC and we're 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.480 talking about and showing photos and videos of the lines, 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.000 lines stretching so very long. You know, yesterday I spoke 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.880 about how I don't ever like the notion of forced 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.880 reverence for political figures, and I do have concerns about 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:10.000 the elevation of our political class into something that becomes 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:18.160 uncomfortably close to a nobility. But that's a broader discussion. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.560 It's not just brought on by what's happened here with 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.440 George H. W. Bush and the way that people are 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.200 talking about him. And there are ways that that people 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.880 are affected by individuals that they didn't know and never met. That. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:35.080 I mean, I can completely respect. There have been, you know, 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:39.559 one or two authors that passed away who for me 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:45.400 I remember a sense of of loss, not deeply personal loss, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.160 but you know, their work had had enough of a 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.080 of an influence on my life that the recognition that 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:52.920 they would be no more and there would be no 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:57.280 more of their words to read. You know that that 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.120 took a moment. You know, some of them gave me 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.200 a you know, Christopher Hitchens was one. I know he's 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.880 rapidly anti religion, but on some issues he was brilliant. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.000 Michael Crichton, who I've mentioned you before, for pure entertainment purposes, 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.160 I just loved his books, so I can understand that. 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:16.079 And really also, in a way that might be surprising 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.760 to some of you to hear Anthony Bourdain when he 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:24.920 took his own life. I read Kitchen Confidential and just 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.520 loved it as a book. And I had all these dreams, 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.480 and maybe that's why these days I want to have 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.280 a little time in my hands. I try. I try 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.800 to do a little more, a little more cooking, you know. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.160 I like to actually try to see if I can 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.040 make some of these things that I've always wanted to 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.760 learn how to make. But Bourdaine, to me, was was 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:47.559 an example of someone who you assumed that he had 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.000 it figured out. You know, you assume that if you 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.480 wanted to leave your you know, your job that you 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.040 weren't crazy about, if you want to get out of 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.240 the cubicle or just get a you know what, what, 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.440 what better escape could you even imagine than being the 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.360 guy who just goes all of the world, that cooks 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.360 food and eats the food of different cultures and hangs 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.559 out with people in travels. It just seemed like everything 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.320 was And then he took his own life, obviously because 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:15.720 of tremendous pain that he was feeling that people weren't 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.880 aware of. And I never met the guy, didn't know 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.200 the guy, but that, you know, I know that it 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.000 can send a jolt through you. Just the stories of 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.360 other individuals and the way that they affect us even 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:28.960 when we don't know them. And for those who knew 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:33.320 hw Bush, I know this is particularly solemon. For his family, obviously, 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:38.040 it's a very, very sad. As much as he lived 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.000 a great life, you know, it's sad people lost their dad, 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.760 lost their granddad. I was not able to get to 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:48.680 the funeral, was not the funeral today or the viewing 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.520 that happened last night in the Capitol Hill, but it 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.120 was certainly able to see a lot of the footage 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.959 and speak to friends of mine who made it there, 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.400 and it was incredible how many people came from all 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:05.520 over the country just to pay their respects. It's a testament, 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.480 I think, to how much the American people still really 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:13.240 do feel a kinship and connection to their leaders. And 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.120 it's one that I hope we can continue into the future, 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:23.440 even in this era of feelingly seemingly constant. Feelingly is 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.360 one of those things that maybe that could be a word, 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:30.320 feelingly seemingly constant contact with everybody in political life and 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.440 now with Twitter and Facebook and all these other aspects 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.640 of it. So with that, I wanted to take a 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.600 moment here to say, Okay, so that's on the plus 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.560 side of US, and then now we have the media 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.319 and the usage of this moment in time, the usage 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:51.160 of this period in the country's history to score political points, 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:58.120 to bash Trump, to take this and for the most 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:03.600 narrow self interested purposes, use it as a use the 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.720 passing of hw Bush as a platform for the advancement 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:14.040 of rapidly anti Trump political views. It is not surprising, 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.400 but that does mean does not mean it is not troubling. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:23.959 We will get into that and also apologies an advanced team. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.160 I love doing this show so much and talking to 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.360 you so much that I have to be dragged from 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.319 the microphone no matter how ill I am. But today 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.160 I'm I'm gonna be pretty much at the at the 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.480 outer limits of what my voice can handle. I've gotten 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.599 really sick. I knew it was, it was going to 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.400 come on pretty badly, but today it's going to be 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.280 a rough one. So apologies in advance for that. You know, 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.040 give me a day or two. My voice will hopefully 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.800 be back to normal. But if you hear some it's 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.640 going to be in a lower octave or two. You're 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:55.200 gonna hear some break, some cracks in the voice. I'll 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.880 try not to cough into the Mic, I'm in bad. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.120 I actually got worse today. Otherwise, if I had in 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.199 this bad last night, I would have probably had Raheim 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.080 or Harlan or one of our friends fill in. But 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.360 I will push through. We will have a fantastic show. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:13.120 We hold our shields high. Even if we sneeze on 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.640 that shield a little bit and sniffle on it, we 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.080 will hold it high. So we will come back with 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:26.120 Morris they would be. But what becomes undeniably obvious with 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:30.000 every bio run about Bush forty one is that stark 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.080 contrast between these two many over the last two years, 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:38.160 deviancy has continued being defined down by this current president, 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:43.480 his cronies, his supporters. Oh, Donald Trump is one eighty 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:47.679 from who George H. W. Bush is. The world looked 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.880 to George Bush because he was a leader, respected, he 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.920 had proved himself. This president has you have to do that. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.160 This president that we have now is trying to unravel 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.719 everything that he did and Obama Jack. I think he's 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.199 doing this because he feels he has to do it. 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.040 I can't help but wonder if there was a thought 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:09.880 bubble over Donald Trump's head just now what he was thinking. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.600 I have to imagine who was thinking how much the 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:17.199 big character of the man and contrast with the small 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:21.680 character we see we see today. George Bush believed in 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.960 the institutions of government, which I think too is another 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.520 reason why this moment to remember and to compare and 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.760 contrast is so important, because our institutions are so under 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.200 siege right now by the government itself. And that is 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:37.560 why we celebrate George H. W. Bush's legacy and fear 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:42.160 the next two years of mister Trump's wild White House. Right, 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.520 it's all all an opportunity to bads Trump. The funeral, 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.080 the discussion about the life of George H. W. Bush. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.680 You know, just take it and pivot and bass Trump. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.160 You know you got bad weather. Blame Trump, you know, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:03.080 no matter what it is, is just blame Trump. That 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:10.120 that's the that's the secret sauce that the left decides 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.800 to go with here all the time. It's pretty pathetic, 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:17.160 but I guess they really can't can't help themselves. Um, 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.720 they really do think that this president that they say 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:25.320 things like destroying all these normsum destroying all these norms. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:29.120 And then I was wondering, like how by by using 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.960 Twitter or mean, what what what norms is? What is 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:36.080 Trump doing that. There wasn't a norm established of sexual 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.920 propriety in the White House that Trump destroyed. Bill Clinton 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.440 destroyed any notion of sexual propriety in the White House 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:46.240 or you know, proper sexual behavior. So that's not a thing. 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.520 So I don't really want to hear from libs about that. 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.200 And by the way, Trump hasn't done anything bad when 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.800 it comes to that while he's in office. They're just 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.920 you know, there's some allegations of infidelity from his pre 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.960 presidential era, which I would also note, you know, Kennedy 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:05.600 was a was a complete you know, lady Chase and 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.800 maniac JFK and Teddy too, I mean, all these guys, 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.160 so that that's not really when they're talking about a 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:18.440 presidency and norm busting and what exactly do they mean. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.040 I find that a really interesting exercise when you ask 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.200 angry liberals about this, because they never get into specifics. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:29.680 You're never told what the thing is that they say, Oh, well, 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:34.560 he's he says things about a ongoing criminal investigation, and 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.320 then I'll say to them, I had this experience with 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.920 David Frum, who thinks himself as a very erudite and 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.000 thoughtful fellow. He said it's you know, it's it's just 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.920 he's used the word unprecedented, so I do pardon me. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.480 I took the bait. He said to me, it's unprecedented 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.880 what Trump is doing here speaking about an ongoing investigation. 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.040 I said unprecedented, as in Barack Obama saying there's nothing 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.800 to Hilary's email investigation while she's running for the presidency. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.520 Rock Omama said that there's nothing to it. So it's 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.320 not unprecedented, and it's not a standard that Trump is destroyed. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.840 So what are the standards that Trump is destroyed by 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.479 fighting back against the media. I played the clip for you. 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.800 George H. W. Bush told Dan rather than rightfully so, 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.400 that he had nothing to be proud of that night, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.480 that he was trying to go after him on TV. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.040 So you know what is is this is just an 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.960 echo chamber. It's an echo chamber of people in the 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.120 establishment media who view Trump as a threat to them, 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.840 and they preferred the era of hw Bush because he 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.040 adhered to these rules that allow the media to get 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.040 away with all kinds of things. Here's another person over 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:44.600 at CNN and play fifteen. While President Trump's name was 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:50.040 never said in any of the speeches, the tributes to 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:57.800 former President Bush. Every word, every adjective, every anecdote stood 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:04.920 in stark contrast to this presidency. And I think we're 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.040 going to be talking a lot about that. And and 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.119 I genuinely don't think it was intentional at this general. 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.679 I think it was just describing the late president for 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.560 forty first president, and it is it is what it 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:21.560 is correct when it in making the tribute, it was 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:27.120 another time, another person, and it couldn't have been more stark. Well, 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.960 they're the ones making this comparison, but you know, every 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.720 word is in contrast to Trump, and I don't think 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.760 that that's I don't think that's true. And I also 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.800 don't think that everything has to be about Trump all 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:41.400 the time. I mean, maybe that's just me. Maybe I'm 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.760 naive and thinking that we can have a conversation about 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.240 something that is not Trump related with the media at 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:51.199 some point in time. But also they were you know 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.280 that you can't leave this out. They trash Push forty 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.960 one trashed and when he was president, oh, you know, 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:03.640 they constantly he was you know, he was uh, he 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:08.840 was a plutocrat, and he was a warmonger. You know, 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.159 he was stiff, He was boring, he was this, he 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.360 was that. You know, they weren't, they weren't favorable. This 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.880 this after the fact nostalgia for Republicans, whether it's McCain 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:25.000 or Bush forty one, this is just opportunism from the 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:30.679 establishment media, just using these as baseball bats to go 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.880 after the Trump administration. And you know, I wish these 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.399 people had some honor, some dignity, some integrity so they 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.400 wouldn't feel the need to do this all the time. 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:42.040 But we know that they do. We know that they do. 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.080 We'll talk about Flynn and Muller and the probe coming 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.760 up here in a moment. That and more. Team. If 0:19:46.760 --> 0:20:01.680 you're right back, he's holding the line for America, buck 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:06.200 sext in his back. Unlike any other club that's nearly 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.520 as exclusive as this one, they don't get to pick 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.919 their members. We do. This is a very very different 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.680 group of people, and yet we have decided to bring 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.440 them together in this fraternity and it, you know, something 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.840 changes about how they relate to each other. And you 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:21.840 sort of saw that, you know, what did you make 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.800 of the dynamic once you saw it? Well, one thing 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:28.359 that was tricky, I think is that if there's a 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:32.240 mission of that group. It is to protect the institution 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.800 of the presidency. When you have a new number of 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:39.119 this club who has taken a blowtorch to the institution, 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.639 and not by accident, quite intentionally. It's the promise he 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:49.560 made when he ran. So this is someone on MSNBC 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.159 who's the former editor or editor of Time magazine in 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.520 case you didn't know how liberal Time magazine was, and 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.040 Je Prouser mic grab this one for me in the 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.000 break is a perfect sample of it. Taking a blowtwards 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:05.359 to the institution, the presidency. This is something that that 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.760 stupid people in the media say to sound smart. What 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.959 does that mean? How taking a blow towards how you know? 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.639 The criticisms that I had of the Obama administration of 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:20.080 Obama himself were criticisms of generally things he did or 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:24.119 policies he was pushing for. It wasn't I just don't 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:29.159 like the way Obama is in general acting about you know, 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:32.600 his day to day blow towards to the institution the presidency. 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.280 That's quite a charge to make, isn't it. I would 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:40.040 like some specifics. And what I always notice is when 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.000 I've asked liberals and this, I get the chance to 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.600 do this on The Hill Show. Sometimes, can you just 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:48.720 give me some specifics of what backs up this assessment 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:53.800 that you have. They tend to be indignant, They tend 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:59.159 to be outraged, very very upset about just what exactly 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:02.680 I'm what am I getting at? You know, I said, well, 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:04.240 I mean, if you're gonna say that the president is 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.359 destroying the presidency, I just I just wish you could 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.520 give me some examples of how he's doing that that 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:15.040 don't involve conspiracy theories and fantasies about Russia collusion or 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:20.119 other things that normal sane people don't put any stock in. 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.359 And that then makes me think about Russia collusion. Here 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:25.520 here you go. There, there's there's different views of this 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.760 out there, you know what I want to Even you 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:30.280 had tube In over at CNN and Flynn over not 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.119 Flynn mud over at CNN. They're all saying, oh, you know, 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.880 the other shoe is gonna drop. You know the other 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:40.280 shoe is not gonna drop. But speaking of dropping things, 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:44.240 they won't drop this this hoax. They won't let it go. 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:46.520 We got Greg Jared joining later on to talk about 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:50.120 the specifics of the Muller probe from this week, including 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:53.720 the Flynn, no jail time recommendation and all that, And 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.920 I'll get into some of that just a moment here. 0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:00.359 And I'm also gonna in this break drink copious amounts 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.280 of t I'll be right back. Remember James Comey, Director 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.200 of the FBI, fire, Deputy Director McCabe lied three times 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.680 under oath, fired, Chief Council to the FBI Jim Baker demoted, 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:14.040 then left. FBI Council Lisa Page demoted then left, and 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:18.000 Deputy Head of Counterintelligence Peter Struck demoted then fired. But 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:21.560 even those five people thought Mike Flynn didn't lie when 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:24.720 he was interviewed by the FBI. Only Bob Muller did. 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:26.720 And now this is what happened. So we got to 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.360 keep this in context. The top people to the FBI 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.399 all demoted, left or fired, who launched and ran the 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:35.800 Clinton investigation, launched and ran the Russian investigation, put the 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:37.600 fake dossier in front of the fire suc court to 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.600 get a warrant to spound the Trump campaign. Even they 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.720 didn't think Mike Flynn lied when he was being interviewed 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.280 by the FBI. And now Bob Mueller is saying he 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:49.880 should get the most lenient sentence possible, but they still 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:51.679 have the information he gave him. We'll find out what 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:57.240 that is when we get the unredacted version. I agree 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:03.959 wholeheartedly here with everything him Jordan's saying. General Flynn should 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:08.080 be fully pardoned. No question about that. Flynn should be pardoned. 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:12.520 And I have no inside track on this, but I 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.639 thoroughly believe that Flynn will be pardon I believe President 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:21.000 Trump will will clear him legally of any lasting now. 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:25.000 He still has been essentially bankrupted, his reputation has been 0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:28.280 greatly damaged. But at least he will not have to 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:32.280 live his life as a felon. He will not have 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:34.680 to live his life with that March after thirty years 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:41.880 of serving his country. A non an unimportant and minor lie, 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.720 if a lie at all, told the people that under 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.960 the circumstances. I don't even think Flynn really knew. We're 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.199