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Speaker 1: Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Diamonds and Rough

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Speaker 1: with myself Teddy Mellencamp.

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Speaker 2: And Hey, I'm Erica Jane.

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Speaker 1: I'm Erica Jane who just performed at the Forum. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, give me all the details. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: know about this in advance.

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Speaker 2: Well, no one did. It was a surprise little performance.

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Speaker 2: So top of June I did the Mighty Hoopla in

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Speaker 2: London and uh Jake'sh're from Sister Sisters was backstage and

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Speaker 2: he came up to me and he said, Hey, we

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Speaker 2: have a show in Los Angeles in July. Would you

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Speaker 2: like to come and do the monologue for Let's have

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Speaker 2: a ki Key? And I said absolutely, So that's what happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know what a great like opportunity. They

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Speaker 2: are lovely, the entire band, everybody so kind, and we

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Speaker 2: got to have a good time. I mean, that's really

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Speaker 2: what it's all about.

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Speaker 1: And did amazing Thank you this morning. I was like,

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Speaker 1: how did I not know?

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Speaker 2: Well, I was in these really high high Lubaton boots,

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Speaker 2: so I couldn't like run around like I would have

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Speaker 2: loved to, But it was for the look and you

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Speaker 2: look hot. Thanks and that was. The point was to

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Speaker 2: get out there, look hot, be bitching. It's their show,

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Speaker 2: and just like amp it up and have fun with that.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what they want. What you did, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Thanks. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: So why don't you give me an update on the

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Speaker 2: mystery man in your life?

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, you guys, pres needs to get on it

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Speaker 1: a little bit faster, because by the time they figured

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Speaker 1: out who my mystery man was, we're already done.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh. I wasn't expecting that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like had to call things off and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I open up the freaking world

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Speaker 1: Wide Web the mystery man. Oh now, you guys figured

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Speaker 1: it out.

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Speaker 2: So may I ask what happened?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just, you know, right now it started getting

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Speaker 1: to the point where it's starting to get a little

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Speaker 1: bit more serious. I was like, I don't have the

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Speaker 1: capacity for this right now.

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Speaker 2: So I was serious on his hands. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 2: was like, and you know, he's he's a really nice

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Speaker 2: he's a really nice he's.

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Speaker 1: A really nice guy. It couldn't be a nicer guy.

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Speaker 2: But it was just the place where timing sucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the timing ticks. I don't feel my best, So

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Speaker 1: when I have downtime, you need to rest. I want

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Speaker 1: to rest. Yeah, it's not even like about a need

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Speaker 1: right now. And I think that's the crazy thing about this, Like,

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Speaker 1: who knows three months from now, something else maybe sure happening.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But in the way I'm feeling right

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Speaker 1: this moment, the second I'm done working with my kids

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Speaker 1: and doing all the stuff that I need to do,

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Speaker 1: I want to lay.

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Speaker 2: Well, you have to, and you have to take care

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Speaker 2: of yourself. I mean you've been through a lot, and

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Speaker 2: you're going through a lot still. Yeah, your rest and

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Speaker 2: your is prioritized.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And so it was like, you know, there's nothing

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Speaker 2: Was just like, well, maybe you could maybe take a

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Speaker 2: pause and just maybe come back in the future or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if nothing dramatic happened. Nothing dramatic, man.

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Speaker 1: Other than the press being a little slow on it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you almost an next us?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah? I actually I have a lot legally going on,

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Speaker 2: and it's all like storming at one. Yeah. I have

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Speaker 2: a lot, yes, and one of them is the divorce,

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Speaker 2: So that should be happening here. I mean it's in motion.

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Speaker 2: It's always been in motion. But now that Tom is,

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Speaker 2: you know, sentenced to prison, Yeah, it's time to get

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Speaker 2: a divorce and all that shit. It's time to share,

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Speaker 2: you know what it really is. It's just time to

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Speaker 2: shed all of that and move on when you know,

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Speaker 2: make the next chapter of my life as best as

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Speaker 2: it can be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So that's why I just share it all

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Speaker 1: with you guys, because I have nowhere else to share it,

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Speaker 1: So here you go.

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Speaker 2: That's well, I'm kind of sad to say that. I

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Speaker 2: think that he was a really nice guy. But I

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Speaker 2: understand you needing to rest and just take care of

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Speaker 2: yourself first. And I think that that's the smartest, healthiest

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Speaker 1: And I think even though right now I feel worse

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Speaker 1: than I did probably three months ago, I actually was

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Speaker 1: doing worse three months ago. So I think he was

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Speaker 1: I needed companionship and he was such a good companion.

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Speaker 1: It took such nice care of me.

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's why I don't think you totally like

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Speaker 2: discard him. I think you just need a rest. I

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Speaker 2: think he's a nice person. Yeah, and you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: you need a moment to get like, yeah, we do.

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Speaker 1: We do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like nice people. It's the only thing I'll

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Speaker 2: have in my life.

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Speaker 1: Well, an older dude with a lot of money asked

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Speaker 1: me out, and I had to say.

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Speaker 2: No, that's fine. You didn't do that in your life.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: It couldn't do whatever, whether it's the teeth, the age,

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Speaker 2: the whatever. You have to do what's right for you, Teddy,

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Speaker 2: and everybody has to do what's right for them no

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Speaker 2: matter what it is.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: This is you know, you get one shot at this

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Speaker 2: thing called life. Well, dearly, beloved, dearly.

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Speaker 1: She came up with that line herself.

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Speaker 2: Your friend Sonny. All right, so we talk about Orange County?

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Speaker 1: Can you okay?

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Speaker 2: I have I watched, but I also have questions about

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Speaker 2: this Katie thing. I have a lot of calm. I

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Speaker 2: have a lot of thoughts you still, I have a lot.

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Speaker 1: And the first thing that I want to say is

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Speaker 1: in regards to bloggers be'ing a part of the show.

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Speaker 2: I you go because I have something to say.

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Speaker 1: It makes me very irritated because I think it just

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Speaker 1: gives them more fuel fuel to keep doing it. And

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Speaker 1: now we're watching a show about people that are wanting

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Speaker 1: to get famed from somebody else else. It's not on

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Speaker 1: the show, and I don't particularly love it. And I

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Speaker 1: also think at this point, the big the powers that

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Speaker 1: going to talk about anything that bloggers saying we're not

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Speaker 2: Aaron should also not be taught. Okay, this is I yes,

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I'm also going to say this, Bloggers

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Speaker 2: should not be coming to Housewives parties. No, I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you something. And this is sounds petty, but I'm going

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Speaker 2: to say it, and then I'm and then I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go back to your point. Sometimes when we get dressed

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Speaker 2: up for events, we want to post our pictures, right like,

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Speaker 2: all right, this is our costume or outfit. We get

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Speaker 2: we get told no, do you know that shady fucking

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Speaker 2: bloggers that come to the events post the party anyway,

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Speaker 2: And so there goes your outfit and all of your

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Speaker 2: Why are you encouraging these people? You know, like when

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Speaker 2: they encourage them and you're including them in episodes, you're

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Speaker 2: including them. I get it. It's it's a part of

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Speaker 2: and drives the whole thing. But you can't have housewives

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Speaker 2: reaching out to bloggers, no, giving away information, giving away

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Speaker 2: the story. You ask us to keep it quiet. You

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Speaker 2: ask us to be quiet, but.

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Speaker 1: Then mean just to press that means pressed.

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Speaker 2: Well, they have their own reach, they have their own following.

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Speaker 2: So you cannot talk to these people.

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Speaker 1: No, And I think the other that's at.

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Speaker 2: Least how I was taught.

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Speaker 1: I was taught that too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there, don't speak about this.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of people that will the way that

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Speaker 1: Katie phrased it, you know, wrote back.

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Speaker 2: You know people, you should not be engaging with them,

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Speaker 2: say thank you, answering questions and giving up information. That's

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Speaker 2: not cool.

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Speaker 1: No, not cool.

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Speaker 2: And you want to talk about us ruining the fucking storyline?

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Speaker 2: What about them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean the fact that there's been so much

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Speaker 2: Why watch the fucking why watch the season?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're ruining the show by talking about this. I

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Speaker 1: mean the girl that's constantly that's currently talking about Katie.

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Speaker 2: Why does she know so much?

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Speaker 1: Because Katie gave it to her allegedly, it's not cool?

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Speaker 1: But now we're seeing it all. But the problem is

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Speaker 1: then we're getting mixed up in other storylines that don't

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Speaker 1: have anything to do with bloggers, Like I feel like

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Speaker 1: what happened with Emily this episode, how Emily didn't fully

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Speaker 1: take you know, I don't think she fully opened up

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Speaker 1: and was completely apologetic for the things that she did

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Speaker 2: When she doesn't have to be well.

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Speaker 1: I think when it comes to the kids stuff, she.

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Speaker 2: Does, but didn't Katie talk kids talk about her first?

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Speaker 1: But is it first first?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It is, it is, Yeah, it is. It's who

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Speaker 2: It is who strikes her.

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Speaker 1: I actually don't believe you in this moment, because you

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Speaker 1: I don't think you would come after my kids. I

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Speaker 2: I don't think so I would measure my response. But

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying is you should not How about this.

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Speaker 2: You can't judge other people's responses by the way you

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Speaker 2: type of pushback, depending on how the person takes it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think you can call somebody an

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Speaker 1: But if you're going to bring kids into it, which yes,

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Speaker 1: Katie originally started the thing with the kids, but then

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Speaker 1: once they were at the reunion, Emily went full blown

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Speaker 1: into Katie's whole history of her children.

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Speaker 2: To be expected, that's what happens at a reunion, and

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Speaker 2: that's what happens when you pick a fight. These things happen.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you get so what's wrong with you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what's happened.

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Speaker 2: Hell is going on with you?

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Speaker 1: I know I felt I But that being said, I

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Speaker 1: still okay, come back to us, wake up, wake up?

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Speaker 2: Who is this?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's that matter. Well either way. The episode starts

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Speaker 1: up with Shannon picks up Katie.

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Speaker 2: I want to say one thing.

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Speaker 1: The show looks great, looks so good, and they all it.

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Speaker 2: Looks great, everything looks good, the girls look good. I

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Speaker 2: thought that, like when I was watching it, I was like, Wow,

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Speaker 2: this show looks good.

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Speaker 1: So I want to looks it's starting to look more

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Speaker 1: elevate because I've noticed that. I think they elevated like

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Speaker 1: Miami and Dubai first, and then now you're starting to

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Speaker 1: see it, Well.

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Speaker 2: It needed it. Look, this is a fifth however, seventeen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's a working mom. You know, she's got Elouise,

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Speaker 2: fifty grand. Like he said, good for you. Leave her

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Speaker 1: Leave her alone. Leave her also, I have you been

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Like, look, we can't assume anything. We're

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Speaker 2: I'm glad she settled her lawsuit. I've always wanted to

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Speaker 1: Me too. Can we go?

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Speaker 2: Yep, Let's call him.

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Speaker 1: I want to go. Let's call him. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: Well, don't tell him how we're doing it. I mean

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, it's the same way they tell on

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Speaker 2: Hey, come down to my thirteen thousand dollars ninety three, man,

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Speaker 2: just go to the golden door. Look it up. Everybody

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Speaker 1: We all know how much it costs. But when we go,

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Speaker 2: How about somebody who is a child that did not

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's hard to describe Oprah because she's

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, go watch the color purple.

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Speaker 2: The color purple, Like there's so many things. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know, probably never will. God bless Oprah though she's

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Speaker 1: This may be what we needed. But then Shannon and

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Speaker 1: Do we care about this though?

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Speaker 2: I think it? Well, look, we care because it reaches

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Speaker 1: I think you know. Now this is getting into more lawsuits,

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Speaker 2: Why are you spoiling the show? Stop? Stop talking to people.

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Speaker 2: like come on, I didn't Katie get in trouble for this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she got in trouble for this last year.

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Speaker 2: Well did she get in trouble for it this year?

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Speaker 1: Yes, she's getting in trouble for it right now, right because.

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Speaker 2: Not now I'm on the executive side. Yeah, yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I don't think she's at the fit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. You could almost accept this

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Speaker 1: Don't try, but then don't do it again.

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Speaker 2: Also, to let me give you some really good advice, Katie,

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Speaker 2: if you think that these bloggers aren't going to turn

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Speaker 1: Granted this never worked for me. But also, have receipts

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Speaker 2: If I needed to defend myself like that in this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I wanted to know what do you

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Speaker 1: going to the Golden Door, do we have Verizon? Like,

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Speaker 2: I think we need starlink, you know. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I mean, because we need to make sure that we

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Speaker 2: Bring all of this lovely energy there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen to these two bags uppers around here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Last year's Listen, a fight is a fight. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Then we see tam Or going to the psychiatrist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you think of that? You know, I psychologist?

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Speaker 2: I think is she a psychiatrist or psychologist?

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Speaker 1: I don't know which one gives pills which one doesn't.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know which one she is, but she's

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Speaker 2: in this episode, Well.

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Speaker 1: One like Gina is the only one to ask me,

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Speaker 1: ask about me? What dickheads? I know all of you. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I didn't actually care about that, but you know, I

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's very weird to see it. And it's

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Speaker 2: That's okay, you don't need to because what you were

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Speaker 1: But I mean it also is it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: I mean, your life is bizarre. Our lives are bizarre.

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Speaker 1: bit weird. But I but I think you know, Tamor's

440
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 1: handling it well. The women brush over it pretty quickly.

441
00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how it would be any different, Like

442
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: I I would assume there are some people that are like,

443
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 1: we don't want to talk about this. This isn't our

444
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: story to tell.

445
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. So in some ways, it's like

446
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 2: it's a very sensitive subject, you know, talking about you

447
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 2: because nobody wants to upset you, nobody wants to, you know,

448
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: be intrusive, and no one wants to do that. So

449
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 2: I get it. I get exactly what you're saying.

450
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it's a it's a tricky situation.

451
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 2: Like how do you address something like this with being

452
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: respectful to you and saying, you know, this is my

453
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 2: friend and I'm sharing my life.

454
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: So it's a little hard time. It's hard.

455
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a bit of a struggle there,

456
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: you know. Tamma said she was crying a lot since

457
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 2: her last appointment, and she also brought up all of

458
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 2: the backlash that she got on the pod for saying

459
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 2: that she could be on the spectrum. Yeah.

460
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought that as she was sharing that.

461
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 1: And I think Tamra, you know, at first when I

462
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: read it all in the press, because it was everywhere.

463
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, before I was a nice person. Guys, I know

464
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 2: that you see someone on TV. I but we all do.

465
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: That shit, like somebody will mention something to us and

466
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden and the doctor may have said,

467
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: you are showing signs.

468
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: Who knows it was, you know, maybe not properly worded,

469
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: but she doesn't, you know, like, come.

470
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: On, I don't think she was trying to hurt anybody. No,

471
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: trying to open up for the like about her personal

472
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 1: journey and her trauma and her things like that. And

473
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: so I think that was a little bit of I.

474
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: Think she just stumbled over her words and maybe it

475
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 2: came out not the best, But I don't think the

476
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: intention was to be mean or her.

477
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: Because essentially Emily says a very similar thing. She just

478
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: says it better.

479
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah about that.

480
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: You know, when she's talking about her son, you know

481
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 1: he hadn't been fully diagnosed yet, she's talking about, oh.

482
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 2: Well he's not eating, he has tactile Like, poor baby.

483
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: I have a I have a friend who her son

484
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: has a similar laying. And it's so tough because it's

485
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 1: not like something that you have an answer to.

486
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: We have to eat. Yeah, is so wild because it's

487
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: kind of bizarre.

488
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: And I mean I've seen a I've seen the child

489
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: in real life, like literally will not like there's like

490
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: five items.

491
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: Of food and that's it.

492
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, And so I think there's more kids

493
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: or more people out there struggling with that than we

494
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: actually know. I had never heard of it before.

495
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: I had not heard of this, But I feel very

496
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 2: badly for Emily because that's hard. You know, anytime your kids, anytime.

497
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: You can't fix a problem, your help fix a problem

498
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: your kids are going through.

499
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: It's a rough one, yeah, super rough.

500
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: And then to her and Gina, we're talking about how

501
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: you start to guilt yourself.

502
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: Of course one hundred percent that it's your fault.

503
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, oh shit, how did I miss this?

504
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: How did I miss this? Why couldn't I have seen it?

505
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: What did I do wrong? Did I sit on this problem?

506
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: All that kind of shit?

507
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? But then we would you get married in a bikini?

508
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: Knew, but I did. I did love it when Tommy

509
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: Lee married Pamela Anderson in a bikini.

510
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: That that's Pamela Anderson.

511
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 2: That's my point, you know, that's my point. Yeah, I mean,

512
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: I think Jens adorable. She's got a great body. I

513
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 2: just you know, pam did it, and.

514
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: You already got engaged in it. You don't need to

515
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: do it twice, right.

516
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: I think maybe let's let's switch it up and wear

517
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: something cute.

518
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: I you know, I could let her borrow my Nicole

519
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: Miller dress I wore sixteen years ago, oh my pink

520
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: blue batata and burn it. No, I still have it. It

521
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: fits my toe.

522
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

523
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: Then Heather, Emily and Tama made up for dinner. Ta

524
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 1: updates them, updates everybody on how therapy is going, and

525
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: then Tama talks about blocking Katie on Instagram. This is

526
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: where we get more into the blogger.

527
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: Situation troll accounts.

528
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: But after she was on our podcast. She made a

529
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: post accusing Tama of secretly running the reality Blurb website.

530
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: That's a big website. That's a lot of fucking that's

531
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: a real fucking Reality Blurb does a lot of concept.

532
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: You got to be full time with that. So Tamra

533
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: is running all of these things and Reality Blurb like.

534
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing one hundred podcasts.

535
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: That's a reach and a half, babe, because reality Blurb

536
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: is busy. Reality Blurb they are constantly cranking out to

537
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: stuff like, you know, kudos to reality Blurb.

538
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: You guys are good, Tarama, Do you get paid for

539
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: this fifteenth job? But Tamra threatened to get her lawyers

540
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: involved if they don't stop, and then, apparently while this

541
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: was all happening online, Katie reached out to the Bravo

542
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: Babe to talk badly about Tamra, calling her evil and

543
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: also accusing Tamar's assistant Katie who is He's on second

544
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: year of being talked about.

545
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: Wow, Katie Kayden golf Cloud. You know what's interesting about

546
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 2: this show just everybody gets their fucking ass dragged in here.

547
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: I mean even the gardener at some point gets dragged in.

548
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: He's gonna do something. He's gonna have forgotten something and

549
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna, We're gonna nobody's gonna miss it.

550
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 2: No, I mean, let's god. Sometimes this show I just like,

551
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: really yeah really, But then they show the screenshots.

552
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: This is all happened.

553
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: No, wait, so let's go. Bravo Babe then went and

554
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: did a podcast talking about how Katie had called her

555
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: to talk about Tamra. Yesterday, Bravo Babe spoke to Okay,

556
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 2: saying she had conversations with Katie for over a year,

557
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 2: including a call with Katie and her husband Matt, and

558
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: also released this screenshot of her DM and call with Katie.

559
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: Hold on, how do we see oh audio call? Does

560
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: it show how many minutes it was? Two minutes? It

561
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: could have been a message.

562
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: Her assistant lives in Tennessee, but he doesn't.

563
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: Okay, he doesn't. I'm not gonna tell you guys where

564
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: he lives.

565
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: But I know Camra went to dinner and caught Katie

566
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: in a lie doing it. I mean, if you're gonna, hey,

567
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: here's the thing, Yeah, blogger, they're going to turn on

568
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: you like, this is gonna this is what happens.

569
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, just stay just Katie, learn your lesson over a

570
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: year and then don't you don't need to. Here's the thing.

571
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: If you are gonna engage with the bloggers, that's that's

572
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 1: you know.

573
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: Keep it surface, keep it, keep it surface. Thanks so much.

574
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: Oh this is fun. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, thank you.

575
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: Appreciate the support.

576
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: But then don't dog them out on the show like

577
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: she's like, I don't even know her name.

578
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: Whoa did she think like that this Bravo babe was

579
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: going to take that on the chin and just take

580
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: it for her.

581
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: Babe, Bravo Babe's gonna make.

582
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: Bravo babes coming out swinging for you. I mean, I'm

583
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: just saying like, and and and rightfully. So, if you

584
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: fucking do this ship, what do you expect people to

585
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: be honorable?

586
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: No, if you're gonna be up Bravo babes ass to

587
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: make sure she's leaking stuff for you, she's gonna.

588
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: Be up your ass when you turn on her. And

589
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: I don't get that. Did you think there's loyalty in here?

590
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: I don't know the chicks thinking. Can you start calling

591
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: me my little teapot?

592
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: Yep? You want teapot? Hello, my little tea.

593
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: Pat, here's my little tea pot short and stout, pour

594
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: me over it, to me over and pour.

595
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: Me out, something like that. Well that was not good.

596
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: We hold on that. We nailed it. I thought, yeah,

597
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: high five five, okay, I almost cut my finger off.

598
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: What are you doing playing with knives?

599
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: You know me? I was just doing a knife show outside.

600
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: I was doing some can do.

601
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: That kind of ship, I said, you know, i'd like

602
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: I just I worry about you and then cutting fingers.

603
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: I was trying. No, I was trying ditches stitches did

604
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: stitches did?

605
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: God? I did some mushrooms yesterday and they're still with me.

606
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: You did fu?

607
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

608
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: How many a lot? Oh?

609
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome.

610
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: Does it make you feel relaxed?

611
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: That's why I'm so slow, That's why I don't give

612
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: a fuck.

613
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it because now you're matching my level.

614
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm really yea, my energy is right with you.

615
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: And I didn't even do mushrooms. You mushrooms. I've never

616
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: done it.

617
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: Oh it's nice. It's better than having a drink, I think.

618
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: Because see I can't really drink now. I try to drink,

619
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: but I won't do mushrooms. I wonder if they would too.

620
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: I wish I liked pot.

621
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it like you eat on

622
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: that and go to sleep. This makes you just feel

623
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: like giggly, Oh like giggly.

624
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: Do you take a capsule or do you put chocolates? Chocolates? Well,

625
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: when we're at the Golden Door, it might be a

626
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: good time for us to try.

627
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: I'll come over here and give it to No, don't,

628
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm kidding. I'm not giving teddy. She said, We're not

629
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: giving your ship.

630
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: We're getting permission. We're gonna get that hoody relax, mushrooms.

631
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got my fasterday. I felt amazing.

632
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: Oh your birthday was yesterday? Yeah, oh so, no wonder

633
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: you were shrewing it up?

634
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: Went up. I've got to do something. I'm telling you what.

635
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: These fifties who said that, you know what, My forties

636
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: were great. These fifties are a challenge. I mean, challenge accepted.

637
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: But this ship is not great.

638
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: Listen, the forties haven't been great for me. I know,

639
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: so I don't really know.

640
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: And you know what the thirties, hold on, hold on,

641
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: I think that starting in twenty twenties, when both of

642
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: our lives blew up.

643
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were doing pretty great.

644
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: Then we're doing really good. And then twenty twenty like

645
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: Dove Slate's finger, the murder at your house, Da Da

646
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: da da, Like it.

647
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: Just kept it kept going, and the same for you.

648
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: I just kept rolling in and you know what, we

649
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: would like it to be a change.

650
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: It's going to be five years and like we need

651
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: a moment.

652
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: You need a moment. We need a moment when is

653
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: our high going to happen? It better happens soon, and

654
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: it better happened like now, that's.

655
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: Why I was shrooming it up.

656
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why get doctor's permission, So Carpy DM.

657
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: I wonder if we shroomed it up on the pod

658
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: if we would sound different. If you guys could test.

659
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: It, I think I would be just as clear, probably funnier,

660
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: probably a bit f funnier. Okay, Gina and Emily meet

661
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: Katie for coffee. On the way, Emily tells Gina there's

662
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: a chance Luke has autism and that sucks. Yeah, I

663
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: feel bad.

664
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: It was really hard. You can see that Emily's really struggling.

665
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: You can see that even when Emily's talking to Shane,

666
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: you can tell they don't even fully know how to

667
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: communicate on it because she's trying to protect herself as well,

668
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: of course, and then he's just being a dude's saying whatever.

669
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: Well, dudes, look, dudes are not the best in these situations,

670
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: no offense. But you know, in moms and their children,

671
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: it's a different dynamic, I think, And you know, I

672
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: feel badly for Emily and it sucks.

673
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a lot going on. But then I

674
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: heard that Emily's really getting the crabbeat out of her

675
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: this episode for all the Katie stuff versus Katie getting it.

676
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: Why because people are mad at Emily for what she

677
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: did and not and here we go again. She didn't

678
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: fully take accountability for what she did, so people are

679
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: what she did at the reunion, what she did last season, okay,

680
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: And then how she's behaving this season when she's getting

681
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: so worked out.

682
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: That's okay, she's got a lot on her plate. She's

683
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: allowed to act that way.

684
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: She's giving what season was your hard season?

685
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh god? Welln't even like she's nowhere nearro how I

686
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: was acting.

687
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't know her. When she gets married, she gots

688
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: really marred. What about when she put the little food

689
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: in her.

690
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: Amazing?

691
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: I was like, what kind of doughnut was that it

692
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: would have I would have forgotten about it.

693
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: I've done that sometimes and brought something home and been

694
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: like chocolate candy for me, chocolate in my pocket, and.

695
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: Then it'll have melted and then it's all over all.

696
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: It gets washed like that too.

697
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: Yep, Katie's gonna host a hot pot lunch and then

698
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: Gina tells Katie it feels like she's trying to hurt

699
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: everyone in the group. Then they go through this whole

700
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: thing that Jen said something about Katie but she doesn't remember, saying.

701
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember it either. Remind me.

702
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: What did Jen's Oh, Jen, I guess called Katie.

703
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: Oh, and that she and then she says I didn't

704
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: but she did because.

705
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: She didn't even say she didn't. She said, I don't

706
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: remember doing it, which I don't think is denying.

707
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: It's not denying. No, it's not denying. But you know,

708
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: Bravo's good for that flashback, Honey, come to get.

709
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: You somehow someway we'll probably see.

710
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: Okay. So Shannon preps for her Golden Door event, and

711
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: Tarma said that she isn't friends with Shannon anymore. She

712
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: says that Shannon betrayed her.

713
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: How she's saying that Shannon betrayed her because when she

714
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: got booted off the show, Shannon ditched heir.

715
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was years ago.

716
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: No, but it was only that. It was last year,

717
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: was their first year being back together, and they fought

718
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: the whole time.

719
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Tama called her drunk and she had hit

720
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: the house and it was a thing.

721
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: Did you know she got pulled over again, but not

722
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: for drinking.

723
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: Oh for speeding or something for like.

724
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: Texting and driving. But it broke the probation.

725
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: Oh does it put her probation in jeopardy?

726
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, allegedly, damn it. I saw that. I saw

727
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: that when I was perusing.

728
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: The Oh, come on, Shannon Boo. I know, rats, But.

729
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: Now we have talk text you know, but can you

730
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: do that?

731
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: I pulled over in the Gelson's parking lot to do

732
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: some texting before I pulled up here.

733
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: You know, you can always come early and text from them.

734
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: No, it's fine.

735
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: I I almost said the lobby as I from the lob.

736
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: It is a lobby in here. No, but I just

737
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: whipped into the parking lot and just like did some

738
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: emails and did some texts because I I don't want

739
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: to do that on the road.

740
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Do you think that Shannon and Tamar are gonna make up?

741
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: They should because they have a long history and they

742
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: really should put both all of it behind them they

743
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: move on. Otherwise, it's just it's, you know, that beef

744
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: that festers and then you don't even know what you're

745
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: fighting about any longer, and you just don't like let

746
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: it go.

747
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: Well. Also, I need more than just the best friendship

748
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: of Gina and Emily. I need I need another friend

749
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: group because I gotta be really honest and this is

750
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: I think that Jen is, you know, likable, but the

751
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: Jen and Katie friendship isn't doing it for me.

752
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 2: No, I think that, Yeah, you need Shannon and Tamara

753
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 2: to be friends, you need more friends. Yeah, it feels

754
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: like there's a couple of little friendships happening. Who's Heather

755
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: friends with? She keeps it neutral, she keeps she.

756
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: Sitting neutral, She dabs where she can. But I think

757
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: her work is done mmm elsewhere? Okay, all right, you know,

758
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: I think and I got in trouble, she got mad

759
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: at me for saying this before, But I think she

760
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: is a very intelligent woman. She is, and I think

761
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: that she thinks three steps ahead, which is great, which

762
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: is great, great, great for her, great for her. But

763
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think it shows.

764
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: I got you. Listen, live how you want to live,

765
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: be yourself.

766
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: And if that's who you are, it works for her.

767
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 2: Who cares like not everybody's going to be the same.

768
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 1: I remember I miss being that way.

769
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: I remember had Toed telling me she's like Erica, don't

770
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: try to be anything other than yourself because people like

771
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: certain things about certain women. They may identify with this

772
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: one and their family and this one over here with

773
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: their career or this one with whatever they do. So

774
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 2: don't you know, and you don't have to make yourself

775
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: into something.

776
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

777
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 2: I agree to be yourself. And tamer says she doesn't

778
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: want to talk to Jen, and Jen and Ryan have

779
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: been attacking her on social media, and Jen talks about

780
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 2: a Tamra's cease and desist. Guys, stop sending the legal

781
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: ship to waste job.

782
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: It's such a waste of money and then nothing happened.

783
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: And nothing happens. It's bullshit.

784
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: It's time.

785
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: It's quick the show or leave if you don't want it.

786
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: Because now there's multiple lawsuits going on.

787
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: Dick. I don't know, you know, like yeah, like it's

788
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: just a really just to waste a fucking time and

789
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 2: I'm tired of all of that.

790
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: But why Okay, And I know we already discussed this,

791
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: but it's kind of how it ends. But Katie is

792
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: is she playing games here when she's when she doesn't

793
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: even bother to reach for her phone?

794
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: Well, it felt to me that way. It felt that way.

795
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: It felt very convenient that there was no signal. It

796
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: felt very convenient that it was there was no answer,

797
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: It felt very convenient. I didn't like it. I mean,

798
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: it's great for the show. It leaves it on a

799
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: hook and then you can, you know, kind of wonder.

800
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not mad at that from a from

801
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: a story perspective watching the show, but at the same time,

802
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: if I was on the show and I would, I

803
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: would be like, no, here is my phone?

804
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: Like did you like this episode?

805
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: I didn't hate it. I thought it was nice.

806
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So, I mean that was the first episode. But

807
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: we have to talk about what happened with me and

808
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: Erica the other day. What this was so funny? So

809
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: Kyle and I went to do a thing for Oh

810
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: my God, a magazine, a magazine shoot. So I'm fully glad.

811
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: But then I put on my Jammy's when I was done,

812
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: and I rode in the car with Kyle, and then

813
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: she was getting out to film and I see Erica

814
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: and I like, give her this big wave and you

815
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: can tell she's kind of looking at me funny, and

816
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, she thinks I'm about to film.

817
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: Oh. I thought Teddy was showing up for work. I

818
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: was like, Teddy, are you coming today? Get out of

819
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 2: the car, Look, Darwed, it's Teddy. Guys, everybody, Teddy's here.

820
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: And then everybody's kind of looking at me and they're

821
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: all dulled up, and I am seriously, in jam have.

822
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: Your hair makeup on? You had changed your clothes, you

823
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: didn't have on your wig. But the bottom line is

824
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: you looked beautiful. And I thought she's gonna come to

825
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: this event that we were, you know, filming, and I

826
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 2: was so excited and You're like, I'm not coming in there.

827
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean. I tried so hard,

828
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: It's like, please just for five minutes, come on.

829
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: But it's like I see that you have closed in

830
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: the back right.

831
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: We were trying so hard to get her to come, shoot,

832
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: we have closed in the back, get in these clothes.

833
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm just here because it's en route

834
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: to my house. I can't drive. Jen's in the back, right, Jens,

835
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: and that.

836
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: I didn't even see Jen in the back, by the way.

837
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: By the way, I saw Jen at the forum the

838
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: other night, but oh yeah she was there. She I

839
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: guess you see cashing, But I didn't see Jen in

840
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: the back. All I saught was get ready, Oh my god,

841
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 2: you're here. You're here, and put these clothes on. Everything's

842
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 2: going we see all of them.

843
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: No, but yeah, so that was that's how you know,

844
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: that's how rumors get started.

845
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at you there, I was so excited.

846
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm not even getting out of this car.

847
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: I was like, come on, come on, make it fun.

848
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: But thank you guys for tuning in for another episode

849
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: of Diamonds in the Rough. For those of you who

850
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: didn't know, once Real Housewives Orange County came out, we

851
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: are taking a pivot onto talking about Orange County instead

852
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: of ourselves. Yes, but we still will find way to

853
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: talk about ourselves eighty five percent of the time.

854
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: Well you know, it'll be mostly us and then those

855
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: broads for most see like you know, we're gonna pepper

856
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: it mostly with us, and then a dash of Katie, Gina, Tamra,

857
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: Shannon and Heather and Emily, Emily, I'm so sorry, Emily,

858
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: Chen and Jen. No shade, no shade.

859
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: We're just thinking about ourselves.

860
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: No shade. We're just thinking about ourselves. That's how it

861
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: goes down.

862
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: That's our tackline. That's we're not we're not after you.

863
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: We're just about ourselves.

864
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just about ourselves over here. Thanks for hanging

865
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: out with.

866
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: Us today and we'll talk to you next week.

867
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: Bye,