1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals held their own and fought against a playoff caliber 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Texans team, whoever ultimately fall twenty one sixteen to the 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Texans in Houston. Welcome into Morning Scramble, presented by Verizen 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: from the Sea Geek Studios alongside Jody Jackson and Zach Gershman. 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: I'm Danny surak. Arizona's offense struggled to consistently move the chains, 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: the defense stole the show despite a two to nine record. Postgame, 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: linebacker Josh Woods said it best. If you think we're 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: a bad football team, you don't watch football. Jody, what 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: good can you take away from the twenty one to 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: sixteen lost in Houston? 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: Well, Danny, like you said, the defense was incredible in 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: that second half. After giving up three hundred and thirty 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: three yards of offense to the Texans two hundred and 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: fifty nine through the air with CJ. Stroud really attacking 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: this Cardinals defense, they only gave up eighty six yards 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: in the second half and shut them out. So then 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: you were just kind of waiting after interceptions, after a 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 2: couple punts, after every time the Texans were able to 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: uh or they were able to get the ball back 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: from the Texans for that offense to get going, and 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: besides the first possession of the second half, which was 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: a touchdown by Kyler Murray, the one fourth down that 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: they converted of the day, you know, they weren't able 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: to do a whole lot and so that was what 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: was frustrating. And so my takeaway overall though, especially after 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: doing the postgame show with Craig Grielou on radio, is 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: the passion from the fans about not winning that game. 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: And so what that tells me is that in a 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: two and nine season, whether it's because of the fight 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: we've seen all year, the improved coaching, the rookie class, 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: or Kyler Murray being back on the field, which probably 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: is kind of more than just the icing on the cake, 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: probably one of the big reasons why people are expecting 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: a victory in a twenty one to sixteen game where 35 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: you kind of had opportunities late. 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: And that's a good thing. 37 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: I know, the people in the building here always, you know, 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: the players and coaches expect to win. 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: They're always disappointed when they lose. 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: But to see everything turning from well, you know, the 41 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: talk early in the season of you know, going from 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: conspiracies and tanking and. 43 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: All of this too. 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: You know, seeing that this team is a team that 45 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: is competitive on most days, especially now with Kyler back 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: and coming off a win last week. I mean, that 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 2: to me is really what it's all about, and it's 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: what we all want to see, and it's the passion 49 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: among the fans in. 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: Particular, and so and it does Kyler Murray. 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: The other thing that I want to mention is Kyler 52 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: Murray was extremely upset after this game, and that to 53 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: me is also a good thing. You know, he should 54 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: be and him showing that, I think is also another 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: step in what his maturation looks like. 56 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: It definitely is is the first time he's lost in 57 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: the state of Texas in a game in the NFL. 58 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 5: He's always done really well. 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: With him being with it being his home state, I think, Jody, 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: to your point, the one conversation, the one quote that 61 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: I go back to all the time is what DJ 62 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: Humphrey said during training camp. It's not a culture shift, 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: it's a culture shock, and you could see it all around. 64 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: And that's why this isn't a typical two and nine season. 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: And so many of these games they've been hard fought. 66 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: It's been the minor details that have really hurt you, 67 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 4: because if those minor details were executed the way that 68 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 4: the Cardinals would hope that they would be executed, it's 69 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: not a two and nine season. 70 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 5: It's a completely different record. So there's a lot of positives. 71 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: There's a lot on the bright side to look at, 72 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: and I think with this being a playoff caliber team 73 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: on the other sideline of the Cardinals. 74 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 5: Held their own. 75 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: It was Kyler's second game back from that ACL injury, 76 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: and something that had been missing throughout those games where 77 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: Kyler was not on the field the accurate deepall first 78 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: drive for the Cardinals Sunday a forty eight yard bomb 79 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: from Kyler to wide receiver Rondo Moore. Kyler hung in 80 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: the pocket, he relied on that protection from the offensive line. 81 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: He was calm, and then he found. 82 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 6: More for that great ball. Jody. That's what's been missing, 83 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 6: is that deep all. 84 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: It really is, and we saw more explosive plays last 85 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: week against Atlanta. We saw that early and I think 86 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: that's also what was disappointed about not seeing that in 87 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: the second half. But we saw it on that first 88 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: touchdown to Rondell Moore kind of right out of the gate, 89 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: and my favorite part of that guy is was seeing 90 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon so excited. 91 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: What a cool shot. You know. 92 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: We saw the camera shot that had Kyler facing JG 93 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: and they were and he was just smiling. 94 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: He had that. We know how intense he is. 95 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: And even though it's funny because early you know he is, 96 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: I think a guy that's easy to smile, but you 97 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: don't see it a lot during the season, and certainly 98 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: not during a game when everything's flying fast and sometimes 99 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: things aren't going well. 100 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: But he was. 101 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: He was smiling, like grinning ear to ear and uh, yeah, 102 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: it's something that's been missing. It's something that Kyler can bring. 103 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: We all know he can spin the ball downfield. We 104 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: know what he did with his legs last week. We 105 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: saw that against it. You're like, you know what, that's 106 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: that's got stay in power, that's not going away. That's 107 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: just god given ability and even with a repaired knee, 108 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 2: it's there. But Zach, I mean, spinning the ball downfield 109 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: is something that he can do. 110 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: We just want to see it. I think a little 111 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: more often. 112 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 4: And I think also a little bit more consistently because 113 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 4: we've seen some of the Kyler Murray's passes. 114 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: They've fallen a little bit short at points. 115 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: I mean, the one to Hollywood Brown that was intercepted 116 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 4: was a little bit short from Kyler Murray. Trey McBride 117 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 4: last week made an incredible grab to save the game 118 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 4: for the Cardinals that ultimately led to the Matt Prader 119 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: field goal to win the game. 120 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 5: That was also a bit short. 121 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 4: That was came on the back shoulder and Trey McBride 122 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: had to lunch all his way out to go make 123 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 4: that grab. But I mean, I think it's Kyler Murray's 124 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: ability to stay in the pocket because he did take 125 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 4: a lot of hits in this game, and we know 126 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: the ability to scramble out of the pocket and to 127 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: avoid pressure like he's able to do better than anybody 128 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: else in the NFL. But it's also his willingness to 129 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 4: take a hit, because we know K one does not 130 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: like to get hit. But that's what we've seen in 131 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 4: this progression. And to go back to John again in 132 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: a little bit, you want your team to resemble. 133 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: Your head coach and your your staff as a. 134 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 4: Whole, and this team definitely does that because they know 135 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 4: how to get to business, they know how to take 136 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: their business right, but they also know how to smile 137 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: a little bit when things are going well, and that's 138 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: what we were able to see in glimpses in this one. 139 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray finished with two hundred and fourteen passing, fifty 140 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: one rushing yards of passing and rushing touchdown against the Falcons. 141 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: Kyler was under centered nine times, something that is new 142 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: to what Kyler is playing with in his career against 143 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: the Texans just five, Zach, how much more comfortable did 144 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Kyler seem in his second game back. 145 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 4: I mean, you could definitely tell that he was a 146 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: little bit more comfortable. I think in the ways that 147 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: Kyler needs to improve still is that there is the 148 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: technique and people I know kay One said that there 149 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: really wasn't much RUSS, but it kind of looked a 150 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: little bit like there was. There were some throws that 151 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: came off like a duck. They were loosely thrown balls 152 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: that kind of wobbled their way to the receiver and 153 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 4: did not make the full. 154 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 5: Trajectory that it was supposed to go. 155 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: So I think in some cases k One seemed a 156 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: little bit more comfortable in terms of the system and 157 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: the play calling. There wasn't as much miscommunication issues, but 158 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 4: there's still is some russ that I think kay one's 159 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: gonna need to kind of brush off a little bit. 160 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me, I was a little concerned 161 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: with underthrown the underthrown balls. You know, a wobbly ball 162 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: can happen sometimes as long as it gets where it 163 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: needs to go, it's fine. 164 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: But these passes really did. 165 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: It, I think looking at it, I mean maybe the 166 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: obvious thing is there was more of a rush, There 167 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: was more of a problem with that front, giving the 168 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: cards O line a bit of a problem, and so 169 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: it's how do you handle with that pressure? How do 170 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: you handle the blitzes that came late in the game, 171 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: because there were many. As this fourth quarter got closer 172 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: to the end of the game, you saw more blitzing 173 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: by the Texans, and he didn't handle it as well, 174 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: you know, And that's one thing that every quarterback in 175 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: the NFL has to deal with. Kyler a lot of 176 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: times is able to scramble away from that. I thought 177 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: the Texans did a pretty nice job because lord knows, CJ. 178 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: Stroud was throwing. 179 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: Picks there at a high rate yesterday to all season 180 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: in nine games and then three yesterday, so they had 181 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: to do something to kind of stop what the Cardinals 182 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: were trying to do because they had opportunities to come 183 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: back and try to win this game. But yeah, for me, Kyler, 184 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: I think I did see some rust, and again I 185 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: kind of attribute that to a little bit better of 186 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: a Texans defense in this game, not as strong a 187 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: performance by the offensive line. I think it's going to happen, 188 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, his arm is fine. I don't 189 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: think there's any issue with health. I think we'll see it. 190 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, he just. 191 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: Needs to be more on target with those because again 192 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: in this league, that's what quarterbacks have to do, especially 193 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. 194 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Any rust we saw against the Falcons not about with 195 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: the skill of throwing or running, the false start, the 196 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: delay of game, those were not there this week. So 197 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: in terms of comfortability of being back on the field, 198 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: being in this offense, communication with offensive coronator Drew Petsi 199 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: that seemed to improve a little bit this week's act. 200 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 5: It definitely did because the discipline. 201 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: I think after having a week like you did the 202 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: previous one against the Falcons, when there were so many 203 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 4: pre snap penalties that truly hurt you, I think that 204 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: that was hunting and the team honed in on. And 205 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: I don't think that that just Kyler. I think that's 206 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: everybody as a whole. But that's also the offense getting 207 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: used to having Kyler taking command of the huddle. So 208 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: it all kind of correlates with one another. 209 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 5: I did think though, that k One. 210 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: I think when he played against the Falcons, we were 211 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 4: all so enamored by his ability to just be able 212 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: to run the ball. How he did not seem like 213 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: he lost a beat in the slightest bit in this game. 214 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 5: Once again, the running was not the problem. 215 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 4: I just think that you twerk your body so much 216 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: when you throw these when you throw these balls, and 217 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: that's a lot to handle for a repair knee. So 218 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: while I don't think it's the arm that's necessarily the problem, 219 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 4: I think it's the whole body. And it's not to 220 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 4: say that's a problem. Kay One's the type of quarterback 221 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 4: that he's going to hit the lab today and he's 222 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: going to. 223 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 5: Work this stuff out. 224 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 4: He's going to iron it out because he was very 225 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: frustrated postgame. 226 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: Well, he talked about his footwork too, and that needs 227 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: to get better, and he talked about that after the game. 228 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: And so I think that was part of it. Why 229 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: you know, he didn't have the ball on target in 230 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 2: a couple of those situations. But you know, we did 231 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: see some penalties late and one was an offensive PI 232 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: that took him back ten yards. So they were behind 233 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: the sticks on a few things. 234 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: They there was a delay of game. 235 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: I mean, there were a few things that didn't go, 236 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: you know that they just didn't look as dialed in 237 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 2: and it was a little, you know, it was a 238 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: little reminiscent of past years, and that's what concerned me 239 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: a little bit because he didn't look like he knew 240 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: exactly where he wanted to go with the ball late 241 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 2: in the game, and that's that next step that I 242 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: want to see him take to come back. 243 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: Being down twenty one to ten and a half, the 244 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals were shooting themselves in the foot on third and 245 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: fourth down. Arizona just three for ten on third down 246 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: Sunday one for four on four downs. I appreciate the 247 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: aggressiveness on fourth down and trusting the personnel on the field, Zach, 248 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: It's been a struggle to convert those What is missing 249 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: on this Cardinals offense in those crucial situations. 250 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 5: I think I. 251 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 4: Wouldn't necessarily say what's missing. I think that they're the targets. 252 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: The defense knows how to cover this Arizona Cardinals offense. 253 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 4: And I think that so many of the plays that 254 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 4: we have not been able to convert on third and 255 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: fourth down is because the ball's been short of the sticks. 256 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: And it's also because you've been so far back, going 257 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: back to what you were saying, Jody about how it's 258 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 4: second and long, first and long because of pre snap penalties, 259 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 4: so you have a lot more yards to gain because 260 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 4: of that. 261 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: But I saw something on Twitter. 262 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: I don't remember who tweeted it out, and we were 263 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: talking about it before we started the show here, but 264 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 4: this is not the season to go for field goals 265 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: when it's fourth down. I mean, I understand that the 266 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: percentages have kno gone the way that you wanted to go. 267 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: I mean, one for four on fourth down in this 268 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: game is not It's not good. It's not good. And 269 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: three for ten on third down is also not good. 270 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 4: But I appreciate the aggressing this, as you said, because 271 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: they want to kind of establish themselves and make a 272 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 4: name for themselves here and despite it being a two 273 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: and nine season, that the fight is not of a 274 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 4: two and nine team. This is not a team that 275 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: has given up because I mean Kaiser White said bj 276 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: O Jilari said. 277 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 5: During your sideline exchange. 278 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 4: They want to win out and they still believe that 279 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: they have a chance to make the playoffs and to 280 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 4: have that sort of philosophy and that sort because mathematically 281 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 4: it's still a possibility. 282 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 5: So that's their thought process. 283 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: I mean, again, that's interesting because you can you can 284 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: have that philosophy of hey, we want to work on 285 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: fourth down, we want to try to have the mentality 286 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: to convert those. But when you're six for twenty two 287 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: on the season, you're right, not as good as a 288 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: percentage as you want to see. They didn't have James 289 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: Connor for a big part of the season. For me, 290 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: some of these fourth and you know, it wasn't like 291 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: it was fourth in inches. I mean easy to be 292 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: the Monday morning quarterback. I would have just kicked the field, 293 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, certainly one of the field goals and then 294 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: you're not chasing, you know, twelve minutes left in the game. 295 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: Then at the end, you're not trying to. 296 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: Score a touchdown, you're not kind of throwing what was 297 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 2: It wasn't a Hill Mary, but the sideline passed to 298 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown, which was another the third turnover on downs 299 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: in that fourth quarter. So you know, for me there, 300 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: you're just it would have been better if you're trying 301 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: to get Matt Prater into his range is sixty yards, 302 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: so you're just trying to Yeah, So you know, again 303 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: it's a team where you know, not looking at I 304 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: know they want to one out. I know they want 305 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: to have the mentality it's not gonna probably not going 306 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: to cost them. 307 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: A playoff birth, but I would have liked to have 308 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: maybe seen that. 309 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, again, analytics they do work most 310 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: of the time, but you don't you also don't maybe 311 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: account for your defense coming up big like that and 312 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: shutting out the opposing team. So maybe, you know, again, 313 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: that's the Monday morning quarterback part of it. I think 314 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: it's easy to say kickfield goals, but you also maybe 315 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: don't account for what we saw, which was that defense 316 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: shutting down the Texans in the second half, which was awesome. 317 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: It was a tale of two halves for the Cardinals defense. 318 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: The first half Houston with three hundred and thirty three 319 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: total yards, three touchdowns, second half eighty six total yards, 320 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: zero points on the board, two of the three total 321 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: turnovers by the Cardinals, two of which came in the 322 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: end zone. Zach, what changes were made to put pressure 323 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: on Houston in the second half. 324 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 5: I think it's the pressure that they put on CJ. Stroud. 325 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 4: They were able to get by the offensive line and 326 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: start to meet c J. Stroud in the backfield a 327 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: little bit, because when he had a lot of time 328 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 4: in the pocket, that's when he was able to sling 329 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: the ball around the way that he did. I mean, 330 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: I think that one long ball touchdown they threw to 331 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: Tank Dell. I mean that was an incredible He had 332 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: a lot of time in the pocket though, which has 333 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: allowed him to find Tank Dell. If you watch Tank 334 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: Dell's route against Marco Wilson, it was like as it 335 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 4: was like a windy road and he just went all 336 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: the way out and it was absolutely gorgeous. I mean, 337 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: that's what offensive coordinators are going to show week after 338 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: week because that's the type of route that Tank Dell 339 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 4: ran that could truly shift out and juke out a 340 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: and opposing defense. But the differences in terms of in 341 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 4: terms of the first half to the second half, they 342 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: made CJ. 343 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 5: Stroud feel like a rookie quarterback in the second half. 344 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 4: I mean, to have the three interceptions, to go from 345 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: two to nine games to three in just this one 346 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: is quite remarkable. So I think that they got pressure 347 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 4: to him and the defense. The coverage was a lot tighter. 348 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: There's a tendency at times to give up three four 349 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 4: yards because you don't want to have the big explosive play. 350 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 5: You don't want to allow those up. 351 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 4: And that's why they played a little bit tighter press 352 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: and because of that they were able to get some interceptions. 353 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: I got to tell you, this defense continues to amaze me. 354 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: We already we can list how many defensive alignment are out, 355 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: but we won't again. You can go on and on 356 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: from who they're missing from the first couple weeks. Then 357 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: you add Lucky Foksu leaving the game. You add Ledbetter 358 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: wasn't playing. Kevin Strong's been battling something, but he was 359 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: out there. They just continue to lose bodies and play well. 360 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: And they made adjustments. Earlier in this season we were saying, hey, 361 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: maybe those second half adjustments on defense weren't exactly where 362 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: they needed to be. I mean, the biggest case of 363 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: that being against the Giants, but there were other ones 364 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: not as dramatic where you're like, okay, you'd like to 365 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: see more adjustments. 366 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: This was perfect, and. 367 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: They put pressure on him when he and then when 368 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: he was trying to attack the middle of the field, 369 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: which is what we were seeing, which is what his 370 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: bread and butter is. With these receivers, we really haven't 371 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: heard of these guys. I mean, Tank Dell's a rookie. 372 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: He's kind of showing what he's. 373 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: Able to do. 374 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: But attacking the middle of the field, now, all of 375 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: a sudden, with some pressure, it turned into picks. And 376 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: even in the first in the at the end of 377 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: the second half or I should say a second quarter, 378 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: Jalen did that as well, Jalen Thompson, so tremendous defensive adjustments, 379 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: even losing guys like FO two and because you're white, if. 380 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 5: I could go off one thing. 381 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: A big part of the interceptions too, is because when 382 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: you do get into the red zone, the field gets 383 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: a lot smaller, so the mistakes get a lot more 384 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: you know, they get a lot more magnified. And because 385 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 4: of that, you're able you don't have as much field 386 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: to cover because you only have within those twenty yards there, 387 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: within those ten yards and in a lot of cases 388 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: in the end zone. 389 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: Especially Houston finished with three hundred and eight passing yards. 390 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: After the game, head coach Jonathan Gannon said they were 391 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: just unable to overcome those first half explosive plays. Still 392 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: an impressive performance from the first half to the second 393 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: half by this Cardinals defense. You guys ready to pull 394 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: out the whiteboards. Let's do it my favorite time of 395 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: the day. Let's go into our players of the game. 396 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: I was thinking about do I want to do a 397 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: drawing for this or songbirds? 398 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 5: You know last week I couldn't. I couldn't do. 399 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 6: Tell me that I send in this chair. You would have 400 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 6: been inspired. 401 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 5: I thought it would have been disrespectful to you because 402 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 5: I I can't. 403 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: You didn't feel like you could come up with an 404 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: adequate replacement for Danny's art. 405 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: Whatever you would have drawn would have been disrespectful because 406 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: it would have been significantly better than whatever I would 407 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:57,359 Speaker 1: have attempted. 408 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 6: Jody, you can go. 409 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: First, Okay, I'm going with Chris Barnes, who really was 410 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: thrown in there after the injury to because you're white 411 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: and Josh Woods did a nice job as well, and 412 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: then Barnes got some playing time. He played about thirty 413 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: three percent of those snaps, which was of course second half, 414 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 2: and then he had the interception. 415 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: I really like, you're gonna see. 416 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: Big numbers here because you know, again he didn't play 417 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 2: the whole game, but that interception was yet another spark 418 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: for this team. 419 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: And I like the speed that we saw. I think 420 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 3: even Paul Calvc. 421 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: Brought that up to him and he appreciated that because 422 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: anytime you get your hands on the ball, you know, 423 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: these defenders they want to catch at number one and 424 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: then they don't want to go down. They want to 425 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: be able to get some yardage. And he certainly did that. 426 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: So great job, Chris Barnes. Keep up the good work. 427 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: He's been a guy that's come in when he's when 428 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: he's come in and gotten the playing time, I think 429 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: he's really shown up. 430 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: A forty six yard return on that interception. He had 431 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: the speed, Zach, the wheels. 432 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: Are definitely out. 433 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 4: I went with Jalen Thompson and I think he had 434 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: the one interception the end zone and he also had 435 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: a sack. He also led the Cardinals with eight tackles. 436 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 4: Jalen Thompson, I thought had a really solid game. I 437 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 4: thought it was one of his better games of the season. 438 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: To go back to the previous question about what kind 439 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: of change with CJ. Stroud, I think a big part 440 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: of it was the sack from Jalen Thompson. He got 441 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 4: him out the game for a little bit. They had 442 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 4: to evaluate him for an injury. But just I feel 443 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: like that pressure to see a safety come from all 444 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 4: the way in the backfield, in the back of the 445 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: end zone rather to just blitz his way through the 446 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 4: offensive line and really lay the boom on CJ. 447 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 5: Stroud. 448 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 4: I think could have been in a season where c J. 449 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 4: Stroud has had so much success, it could be one 450 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 4: of those welcome to the NFL moments because Jalen Thompson 451 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 4: did well, and I thought with Buddha Baker not having 452 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: as much production on the field, Jalen Thompson really stepped 453 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 4: up in his place. 454 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: Thompson was untouched on that zack he brought the hammer, 455 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: had a big smile postgame when asked about his first 456 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: career sack said, yeah, it took five years. 457 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 6: Hopefully I can get some from I didn't even. 458 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: Realize that first career career sack because we all know 459 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: he can lower the boom. We've seen it in the 460 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: secondary on wide receivers. But yeah, I think you're right. 461 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: Zachi made Stroud think will. 462 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: Think a little bit more because everyone's aware of Buddha 463 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: Baker back there. But to see thirty four not just three, 464 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 4: to see thirty four come from the secondary end and 465 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 4: lay the hammer, I mean truly, I think changed the 466 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: complexion of the game a little bit, because that's when 467 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 4: you start to see the excitement and. 468 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 5: The juice start coming from the cardinal Sidehine a little 469 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 5: bit as well. 470 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: This player may never speak to me or doing an 471 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: interview with me again after seeing my drawing. 472 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 6: I am so sorry. Dennis Gardiner. 473 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: Yes, I tried to do a drawing with his hands 474 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: in the air like his celebration. Thank goodness, Like you 475 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: can't zoom in on this camera and see he's hitting 476 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: the strube. I gave him long hair. There's a forty 477 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: five on the jersey down there. I kept it small 478 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: so that nobody could really take a screenshot. 479 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 5: And I'm taking a picture of this later. 480 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: The arms are interesting, A. 481 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 6: Very nice way to put in Jenny. 482 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: Thank you, Dennis Gardak did not have big numbers in 483 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: the game, He didn't necessarily have splash plays. Whoever, he 484 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: played with the effort he shows up with every week, 485 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: which embodi he's what this team is trying to have 486 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: moving forward. There were multiple plays where a Texans receiver 487 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: broke first contact and it was Gardak who had the 488 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: effort that push to end up making the tackle. Wasn't 489 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: even his man. Dennis Gardak had a good tackle on 490 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: special teams. He just continues to show up and whichever 491 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: way his number is called upon. 492 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one point in the game where I 493 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: said he is everywhere because he was making tackles on 494 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: the perimeter, he was making tackles downfield, and it was 495 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: just it was fun to see out there with the 496 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: locks flowing out out the helmet. 497 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: I just love how that's a guy that made a 498 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 4: name for himself in special teams and despite being one 499 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: of the starting outside linebackers, he still is an active 500 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 4: member in every phase of special teams. And it's one 501 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: of those players that you know, some players just want 502 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 4: to graduate from special teams and play on their side 503 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 4: of the ball and that's about that. 504 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: But Gardak, he is. 505 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 4: The one that realizes that that's kind of how he 506 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: made his name for himself, and he appreciates that. I 507 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: think his relationship with Jeff Rodgers is also really solid, 508 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: so he was all over the place. 509 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: Kardik has made a name for himself with the Cardinals. 510 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: He has the most sacks by an undrafted free agent 511 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: in Cardinals history. Let's go into our turning point of 512 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: the game, Zach. Five minutes left in the fourth quarter, 513 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: Texans had the ball at the Cardinals twenty six. Why 514 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: does that play your turning point? 515 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: I felt that the turning point it was kind of 516 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: indicative of all the three interceptions. That one was when 517 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: Antonio Hamilton picked it off and he went down with 518 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 4: groin injury right. 519 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 5: At that exact play. 520 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 4: But at least he got his feet down because he 521 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 4: gave the Cardinals the ball back because he intercepted right 522 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 4: on the sideline. 523 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 5: I thought that a big part of. 524 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 4: This and something we have not hit on, and I 525 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 4: think we didn't hit on it for this exact reason 526 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 4: is because the turning point was you had three interceptions 527 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 4: and not a single point to show for it, and 528 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: because of that, that really hurts. You can't that's the 529 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: complimentary football that this team has been looking for. Defense 530 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 4: gives the ball back to the offense. Offense is supposed 531 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 4: to score kind of on a rotating basis, and in 532 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: this case, the defense step in ways we have not seen, 533 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: especially for turnover wise, in quite a few weeks. So 534 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: to see that and for that one specifically with the 535 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 4: game on the line five minutes left, and obviously they 536 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 4: didn't get that fourth down conversion as they were trying 537 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 4: down the field. But I thought that that that was 538 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: a turning point because you have so many opportunities and 539 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: it goes down into a jody where you have to 540 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 4: be able to translate it towards points. 541 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: And you're right, that was an area of concern. 542 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: And you look, the defense is playing okay, but they're 543 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: not getting turnovers. And then all of a sudden they 544 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: get three in this game, and yeah, you got to 545 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 2: get something out of it. And I think that's why 546 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: the offense took it really hard and again rightly. So 547 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: you know, we talk a lot about you don't want 548 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: to see fingerpointing and things like that, like what. 549 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: We're seeing in Pittsburgh, Like I don't. 550 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a tough. 551 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: Situation when you don't generate anything and then all of 552 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: a sudden, your defense is starting to get upset and 553 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: different people on the offense are getting upset. 554 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: But with this Cardinal team, it's not like that. 555 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: I mean, this offense can can carry their weight and 556 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: hold you know, carry their water or bucket of water 557 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: or whatever the sayings are the cliches. They absolutely can 558 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: and in fact, there are gonna be times where they'll 559 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: pick up their defense. But it wasn't yesterday, and it 560 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: can be deflating. And then the other thing that kind 561 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: of you know, got lost in everything because we can't 562 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: talk about a bad call, it just is what it is. 563 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: But the punt, the muffed punt that kind of got 564 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: laid on Antonio Hamilton and it didn't even appear to 565 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: it appeared to touch the gunner for the Texans. 566 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: And that was a bad break. So between that bad break. 567 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: And not turning the turnovers into points, it just felt 568 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: like it was this uphill battle Danny. 569 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, to get points on the board. 570 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 6: Turnovers do come in bunch. 571 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: Us Cardinals had three after not forcing or turnover in 572 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: three weeks. While it is deflating for the offense to 573 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 1: not put points on the board in return, it is 574 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: a good sign that the defense is in the right spots, 575 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: having the right reads and able to take the ball away. 576 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: Let's pull the whiteboards back out and even if you 577 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: guys aren't able to see us on the live stream, 578 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: we'll be sure to let you. 579 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: Know what ours the play by play. So you're no drawing, No, 580 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: no drawing. 581 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: That's that's why we lost the camera beat. Honestly is 582 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: my drawing. I don't think that's a coincidence, as our 583 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: producer Jacob is laughing on off on the side. 584 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 6: Trust me, I picked up on that. 585 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: So it's funny not knowing like and now all of 586 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: a sudden, my handwriting has really gone down, like all. 587 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 3: Of a sudden. Oh wait, no one's gonna do if 588 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: we don't see this. 589 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: But Jody, what was your song watching the game or 590 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: this Monday morning, how you're feeling postgame? 591 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 2: Well, and this is a little misleading, I'm going with 592 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: under Pressure, which is the famous song for you know, 593 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: throughout football, you hear it when sacks are happening. And 594 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: it wasn't so much that the Texans were sacking Kyler Murray. 595 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: I believe they did sack him a couple of times, 596 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: but Orstraudo was sacked actually three or four times, and 597 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: I think Kyler maybe only once. But it's more of 598 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: the pressure situation that Kyler and the offense and certainly 599 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: not just singling out Kyler, but pressure in the fourth 600 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: quarter or late to make something happen. And I just 601 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: felt like in the pressure moment you wanted to see, 602 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: you know, and we were we saw last week, right, 603 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: so now of course I was expecting it to happen. 604 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 3: Ever, get game winning drive? Can we get a game 605 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 3: winning drive? 606 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: And it didn't happen, so under pressure, which is David 607 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: Bowie and Queen I believe on the song. Again, we 608 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 2: hear it all the time in stadiums when you when 609 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: you see a sack, And it wasn't that the Kyler 610 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: was under more pressure. They didn't rack up a bunch 611 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: of sacks or anything like that. But I just again, 612 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: any the mark of a good team. And I know 613 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: at two and nine people are probably saying, well, yeah, 614 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: they're not a good team yet. But going back to 615 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: the Josh Woods quote, it's not a bad football team either. 616 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot to like here, but I. 617 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: Think in the key moments late in the game, how 618 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: do they handle pressure? That is gonna determine where this 619 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 2: team ends up and going forward, and it is on 620 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: the quarterback many times. How do you handle that pressure 621 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: to make something happen? 622 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 6: I thought that song was by you two. 623 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: I think David Bowie for sure. 624 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust you on that. I'm just learn something 625 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: new every show. Zach, what was your song? 626 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 5: I hope this one's not by you too. I went 627 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 5: with Blink one eighty Two's all the. 628 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: Small things, and the reason for it is because DJ 629 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 4: Humphrey said postgame that it. 630 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 5: Truly was a game of inches, and in a. 631 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 4: Lot of cases, it goes back to that Antonio Hamilton 632 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 4: punt situation. 633 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 5: It's the small things. 634 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 4: You see Greg dort waving him off, and you were 635 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: not able Antonio Hamilton was too into the block to 636 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 4: see that Greg dortch was trying to wave him off. 637 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 4: Because of that, if regardless if it hit him or 638 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 4: not or did not hit him, which it did not 639 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 4: hit him, but regardless if it did or did not 640 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 4: hit him, it's one of those things where like those 641 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: are the small details that are gonna hurt you. 642 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 5: It's the penalties, it's the and although there weren't as many. 643 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 4: It's the third down, the third and longs that you 644 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 4: have to deal with. It's the backup running backs not 645 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 4: being able to have as much of an impact. It's 646 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 4: the small things. Obviously, we're gonna point towards K one. 647 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 4: We're gonna point to the stars on the defense because 648 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: those are the leaders. 649 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 5: Those are the ones we have to point towards. 650 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 4: Those are the ones that are gonna want to say 651 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 4: you should point towards me. But it's the small things 652 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: that really are the ones that continue to bite you. 653 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 4: And hopefully in this coming week with Los Angeles coming in, 654 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 4: you have another divisional game, which you've not had for 655 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks. You've got to be able to 656 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 4: try to turn things around. 657 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: We were on the same page, Zach. I went and 658 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: feel so close. By Calvin Harris, this team does feel close. 659 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: The two to nine records says Otherwise, you can't just 660 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: look at the stat sheet to determine how well a 661 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: team is playing and also the movements that are being 662 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: made in the progressions week after week. For the long 663 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: term success of this team, you have to pay attention 664 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: to the details. You were just touching on that, Zach, 665 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: that was something that offensive lineman DJ Humphries talked about 666 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: in the locker room after Sunday's loss in Houston. 667 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 6: That's a good sign to me that you are close. 668 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: That you are fighting against a playoff caliber team in Houston, 669 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: against a quarterback and CJ. Stroud who has now earned 670 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: his name to be in the MVP talks. There were 671 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: MVP chants that I could hear through the press box. 672 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 673 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: So it was impressive the way that this team fought 674 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: and they are close, and that is something I know 675 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: that moral victories don't show up on the stat sheet. However, 676 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: this team is close to what they are trying to 677 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: have for short term and long term success. 678 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: And I gotta look that song up now. I don't 679 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: know if I know that one. 680 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: I want you I want you all to keep your 681 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: whiteboards out for a surprise, surprise, a surprise. 682 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 6: It's Thanksgiving week. 683 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm curious to know the first question for the whiteboard 684 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: best Thanksgiving dish? 685 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 3: Ooh. I like that. 686 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: I love Thanksgiving. I just love the holidays. I won't 687 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: bore you guys with my I have a little bit 688 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: of a history of some Thanksgiving dinner. 689 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: Issues with the cooking faux pause. 690 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not like many years ago, not fully defrosting 691 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: the turkey. Oh, Jody, I'm putting it in the oven 692 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: and I need many many hours later after eating a ham, 693 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: still didn't cook. 694 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: So make sure Thanksgiving this year. 695 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: I kindly invited us to her house for Thanksgiving. 696 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: Zach and I I think now many years ago, but 697 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: I sent a picture to my family, my in laws 698 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: and my husband's family who was there that day. This 699 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: is going back eighteen as my mother in law said, no, 700 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: we don't forget. Oh you think we remember stuff from 701 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: eighteen years ago? 702 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: Yes, they did. And I said, I sent a picture 703 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: of the butterball. 704 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: I said, it's getting defrosted right now because it's a 705 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: big bird, so it will be ready to go. Guys, 706 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: it's going to rebound in a big way at eighteen years. 707 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: To figure this out, you'll have. 708 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 6: To send us a picture. 709 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 5: Zach. 710 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 6: Favorite Thanksgiving dish. 711 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 5: I went with a dessert. I'm on a pea CAMPI. 712 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 4: My dad makes an incredible pea CAMPI, so that's the 713 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 4: one I'm gonna. 714 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 5: Have to go with. 715 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a I'm a basic kid. So like 716 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: turkey's good and all. I like turkey. 717 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: Throw some gravy, on it. 718 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like my turkey, but like I think pea 719 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 4: CAMPI I'm a big chocolate junkie, so like some chocolate 720 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 4: chips next now with it like. 721 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: That, it's solid with stuffing. I like the stuffing the turkey. 722 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: I like it all, you know. I like the green 723 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 2: bean castrole. I like a little sweet potato. As long 724 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: as I'm an anti marshmallow. I know greenbe castrole, Danny. 725 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: I know that that was a big I. 726 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: Wrote GBC with a big heart underneath it. 727 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 6: You mean it that much. I do. And everybody in 728 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 6: this office. 729 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: In this office is crazy because nobody else likes green 730 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: bean castle. 731 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 6: I've learned besides myself. 732 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: That's just wrong. 733 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: Maybe my family just makes it really well and other 734 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: families don't have a good recipe because that is one 735 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: of the dishes where extras are made, because everybody wants 736 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: second and third. 737 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: I love it, and I love it. One year I 738 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: made it. I know the go to is the cream 739 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: of mushroom soup in the can. But if you make 740 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: the mushroom soup from scratch, if you love mushrooms like 741 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: I do, and and that is really good. 742 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 6: And I've done that, fresh mushrooms. 743 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: Fresh mushroom soup. Maybe that's a mushroom thing, you know. 744 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: But as I mentioned, I'm as basic as they come. 745 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 4: So like all this, the only green I like is money. 746 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 5: So I know. 747 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: From let's let's do quickly most overrated dish. 748 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 749 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 6: Wow, I've got a good one. 750 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: I kind of but I didn't. Okay, go ahead, Danny. 751 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: I love Thanksgiving. I love the dishes, the side dishes. 752 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: I wrote turkey. Now, my brother in law smokes turkey 753 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: very well. That is different, but a plane typical Thanksgiving 754 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: turkey just doesn't really cut it for me. I'm not 755 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: a big gravy person. That is I I'll put it 756 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: on my plate absolutely, it's Thanksgiving. You if the turkey 757 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: is there, you have to put on your plate. But 758 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty overrated. 759 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 5: I like turkey, but. 760 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 4: I still put turkey as my most as my most 761 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 4: overrated dish because like, although I like it, I recognize 762 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 4: why a lot of people don't like it. I'm only 763 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 4: going to have turkey when it is Thanksgiving time. I'm 764 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 4: not going to have it any other, you know, any 765 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 4: other time. Like every other dish, I think you could 766 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 4: have a multiple other dates whenever. 767 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 5: You kind of see fit. But yeah, I don't know. 768 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 5: Turkey is kind of a one day, one day year thing. 769 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: Well like the turkey better than you guys. 770 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: For me, it's this I like the sweetest heads, but 771 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: everyone does the marshmallows on the top. I don't like 772 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: the marshmallows. 773 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 6: Interesting. 774 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 5: I actually like that one. 775 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: Wow. 776 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: Okay, well, Jodie, Zach and I are going to have 777 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: to reconvene off. 778 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: I think how far I have greet Next week we're 779 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 3: gonna make. 780 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 5: That's so foul. You're not the only person I've said that. 781 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 6: Oh boy, it is Thanksgiving week. 782 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 5: We hope all of the conversations already. 783 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: We hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving. The Cardinals 784 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: return home Sunday to State Farm Stadium World. They will 785 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: host the Four Insists Los Angeles Rams. It's a two 786 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: o five kickoff. We'll be right here next Monday morning, 787 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: ten am Live for Morning Scramble for Jody Jackson and 788 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: Zach Gershman. I'm Davey StrEG. Thanks so much for tuning in. 789 00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week.