WEBVTT - The PerkinElmer Story: Part Two

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get in test with technology with tex stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>stuff dot com. Hey there be one, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>tex Stuff. I'm Jonathan Strick. And when last we left you,

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<v Speaker 1>there were two companies that were rising in prominence in

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<v Speaker 1>various forms of instrumentation, but had as of yet absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with one another. Yes, they were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like those that those awkward boys and girls at

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<v Speaker 1>the high school dance standing as far apart from each

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<v Speaker 1>other in the dance floor as they possibly could be.

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<v Speaker 1>They were science ships passing in the night. Yes. So

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<v Speaker 1>we had Perkin Elmer, known for creating scientific instrumentation with

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<v Speaker 1>lots of syllables that make me fall over myself. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we have E. G and G, a group of

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<v Speaker 1>M I T. Brainy acts who were really focused on

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<v Speaker 1>high speed photography and other instrumentation. So when last we

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<v Speaker 1>left off, we were just coming up on nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>or when E. G and G really gets involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the space race. That's right, um. They produced the light

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<v Speaker 1>beacons that were launched into space on board the Gemini spacecraft,

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<v Speaker 1>or the Gemini spacecraft if you're one of those folks

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<v Speaker 1>from NASA who insisted on pronouncing it that way. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard that. That's amazing. You have to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>old videos. I I say jim and I I refused

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<v Speaker 1>to say jiminy other than the fact that if you

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<v Speaker 1>watch those old videos it's too many. You mean like

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<v Speaker 1>the cricket. Uh. Yeah. So that same year, e G

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<v Speaker 1>n G also conducts seismic mapping operations in the English

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<v Speaker 1>Channel as part of a project to create an underwater

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<v Speaker 1>tunnel connecting England to France. This is nineteen sixty four.

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<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't actually see that underwater tunnel for many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many years, decades in fact, but it's really exciting to

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<v Speaker 1>me that I had no idea that dated back that far.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's really cool. In nineteen sixty five, e g

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<v Speaker 1>MNG lists as a public company on the Stock Exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>They had actually already begun offering stock options common stock

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<v Speaker 1>options over a counter back in nineteen sixty for fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and fifty cents a share over the counterstock options.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know, yes, because they were technically public,

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<v Speaker 1>but they weren't publicly listed on a stock exchange, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of an interesting example there. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six, they created e G n G International Incorporated,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a subsidiary of the overall company, and this

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<v Speaker 1>was specifically to encompass all their ocean of graphic products

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<v Speaker 1>and services. We talked in the last episode about how

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<v Speaker 1>they had created underwater cameras and light sources and worked

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<v Speaker 1>with Zack Costa. Yeah, that was really pretty cool. In

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<v Speaker 1>that same year, the Atomic Energy commissioned the a c

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<v Speaker 1>A sponsored construction of a technical services building in Nevada,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically for E G and G. Use Wow. This division,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes known as Albuquerque Operations, would eventually encompass all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of military focused projects, including like landmine detection and ground

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<v Speaker 1>air communications e MP simulation, uh, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>whipment shielding projects for rugged environments. Yeah. I think e

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<v Speaker 1>MP simulations mean that you need some good shielding there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty interesting stuff that that that, you know, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, this started as a company that was all

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<v Speaker 1>about high speed photography and now they're looking into EMP

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<v Speaker 1>simulations for the military. In fact, their relationship with the government.

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<v Speaker 1>E G and G's relationship with the government would mean that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it would get pretty complicated. You had entire divisions of

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<v Speaker 1>the company that we're working in a more commercial aspect,

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<v Speaker 1>and a large portion of the company that was working

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<v Speaker 1>almost exclusively under government contract. That gets pretty complex later

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<v Speaker 1>on too. Nineteen sixty seven, E G. M G goes

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<v Speaker 1>on an acquisition rampage. It's like if you've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>one of those old game shows where you got to

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<v Speaker 1>go on a shopping spree at the end of it

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<v Speaker 1>and just run down the aisles and just shove stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's kind of how I feel. E G

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<v Speaker 1>and G win at this point. Yeah, because things weren't

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<v Speaker 1>quite complicated enough, they needed to add all whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of different corporations. Yeah, there were so many that we

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<v Speaker 1>even we started to list them and then realize that

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a list of names that aren't going

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<v Speaker 1>to mean much to anyone who hasn't worked for one

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<v Speaker 1>of those companies, because most of them are not companies

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<v Speaker 1>that that most of us know just easily by name.

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<v Speaker 1>And we ended up cutting the wall out because Yeah, Furthermore,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this was seven and this would continue going

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<v Speaker 1>on for the next several years. So nineteen sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>E G and G successfully test the Phoebus to A,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a nuclear reactor for space propulsion. That's pretty cool, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And in nineteen sixty nine, they contribute several electronic components

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<v Speaker 1>to the Apollo program, which was also pronounced Apollo, So

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't do anything fun with Ellen. It was not

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<v Speaker 1>the Jimini jim anything. That's good. They contributed to the

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<v Speaker 1>first successful use of nuclear explosives to recover deeply buried

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<v Speaker 1>natural gas. That's cool. Also in that year, Apollo eleven

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<v Speaker 1>landed on the Moon and Neil Armstrong's helmet would boast

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<v Speaker 1>a transparent goal protective coding that was designed by Perkin Elmer.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we're seeing E. G and G and Perkin

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<v Speaker 1>Elmer kind of sort of working together but not knowingly

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<v Speaker 1>doing so, they're all working specifically for NASSA. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, just just just hints of things to come. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen seventy three, E G and G supports Antarctic scientific

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<v Speaker 1>research and also contributes instrumentation to the Pioneer ten space probe.

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<v Speaker 1>Also that year, Perkin Elmer would acquire a company called

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<v Speaker 1>inter Data, which was an early computer company, and thus

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<v Speaker 1>begin getting into digitized components and controllers, which would overall

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<v Speaker 1>make their equipment easier for people to use with minimal training. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And in nineteen seventy six, E G and G acquires Rheticon,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a solid state imaging and integrated circuit production company.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, you know, you can see where E. G

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<v Speaker 1>and G is starting to look into the components that

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<v Speaker 1>make up today's digital cameras, including charge coupled devices c

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<v Speaker 1>c ds. That a sensor that's found in many, uh

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<v Speaker 1>though not all digital cameras. And uh, yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 1>there's an interesting note here about some more space stuff, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're Perkin Elmer. One of their mass spectrometers went interplanetary.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of the instruments that went to Mars

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<v Speaker 1>with the with the Viking Lander. That's so freaking awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety seven. Okay, here's the big one, guys. This is

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<v Speaker 1>going to take up a large part of our episode

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the the big blunder really that that

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<v Speaker 1>comes in here. This is when Perkin Elmer wins a

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<v Speaker 1>contract to work on components for the Hubble space telescope

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<v Speaker 1>way back in nineteen seventy seven. If you happen to

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<v Speaker 1>know your history of the Hubble space telescope, it might

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<v Speaker 1>surprise you to know that it all begins back in

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<v Speaker 1>the late seventies because it wouldn't launch until Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>now Perkin Elmer's focus ha ha was on the optical

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<v Speaker 1>telescope assembly. There's a note in here that the pun

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<v Speaker 1>is not intended, and I think you're lying. It's totally intended. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't intended when I was writing it, but then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm totally intending it. Intention has changed.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, their their focus was on the optical telescope

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<v Speaker 1>assembly and the fine guidance system. These are two separate

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<v Speaker 1>systems that they were working on. And so here's the

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<v Speaker 1>highlights of what the Hubble Space Telescope was all about

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<v Speaker 1>and what the problem was. So the purpose of the

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<v Speaker 1>Hubble Space Telescope was to take astronomical measurements and observations

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the Earth's atmosphere, right, because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of of of stuff, including air and clouds and moisture

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<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of other other just things that get

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<v Speaker 1>in the way of your instruments when you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>look at really distant stars. And it's also all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff can act as a filter and block certain types

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<v Speaker 1>of radiation that you might want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>study things like X rays and gamma rays. Now we're

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<v Speaker 1>glad that our atmosphere does this, because life would not

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<v Speaker 1>really be possible if we didn't have that protective layer. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's excellent, but it does mean that making observations from

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<v Speaker 1>the ground is very tricky. So what do you do, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>why not put a telescope outside the atmosphere in Earth orbit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly the reason that NASA decided to to pursue

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<v Speaker 1>this idea, the Hubble Space Telescope. So here's how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>In general, it uses mirrors to direct light to one

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<v Speaker 1>or more of several scientific instruments that are contained within

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<v Speaker 1>the telescope, and then those instruments analyze the light that

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<v Speaker 1>comes in. So those mirrors are incredibly important, right. They

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a very specific way of focusing that

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<v Speaker 1>light so it hits the sensors just right. That the

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<v Speaker 1>mirror shape and the electronics that are used to guide

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<v Speaker 1>them are very critical. Yeah, because if it's not focusing

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<v Speaker 1>the light, then you're not getting really good images. So

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<v Speaker 1>Perk and Elmer worked on the mirrors for the optical

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<v Speaker 1>telescope assembly, and they had to build the structure for

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<v Speaker 1>it and the supporting systems, then assemble all of them

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<v Speaker 1>and to test it before it was sent into space.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the testing part that met with some criticisms, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say. So. The telescope's launch met with several delays.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. The original date was October launch, but that

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<v Speaker 1>did not happen. No, in January of six for those

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<v Speaker 1>of us who are old enough to remember, we had

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<v Speaker 1>the horrible tragedy of the Challenger disaster, and that set

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<v Speaker 1>back the entire space industry by several months, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>All of NASSO basically bent itself to figuring out why

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<v Speaker 1>this tragedy had happened and how it can be prevented

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<v Speaker 1>in the future exactly. So then, uh, it gets pushed

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<v Speaker 1>back over and over again. It wouldn't actually launch until April,

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<v Speaker 1>and once it was an orbit, it immediately started taking pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>whereupon everyone realized something was not right. Yeah, they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>as crisp as they needed to be. They weren't. There

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<v Speaker 1>was this notion that the images they would get back

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<v Speaker 1>from the hubble we're going to be a certain level

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<v Speaker 1>of clarity and crispness. And they were not nearly crisp enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they weren't awful, but they were blurry, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was some confusion at first as to why that was,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually they determined that the problem was Hubble's primary mirror,

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<v Speaker 1>which had been pollished over the course of an entire years.

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<v Speaker 1>How big and delicate the thing is, it had something

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<v Speaker 1>called a spherical aberration. It means that that the curve

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<v Speaker 1>on it was was very slightly off. Yeah, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the thickness the similar larity of a thickness

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<v Speaker 1>of one of a sheet of paper. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at that and you were to take a sheet

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<v Speaker 1>of paper, divide it fifty times equally, one of those

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<v Speaker 1>would be the difference in curvature that it was versus

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<v Speaker 1>what it was supposed to be. But but even that

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<v Speaker 1>small difference meant that the light bouncing off of it

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<v Speaker 1>was being focused on a very slightly different point than

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<v Speaker 1>it was supposed to be, right, So that meant that

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<v Speaker 1>the the center, the light that was hitting the center

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<v Speaker 1>was hitting one part of the sensor, and the light

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<v Speaker 1>that was hitting the edges of the mirror was hitting

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<v Speaker 1>a slightly different focal point. So no matter why however

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<v Speaker 1>you align the mirror, you were never going to get

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect image because the center and the edges were

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<v Speaker 1>out of alignment of the mirror itself, and so how

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<v Speaker 1>do you fix this? Well, they decided to use what

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<v Speaker 1>they called the Corrective Optics Space Telescope Axial Replacement, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they named it just so they could get

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<v Speaker 1>the acronym co star. So CO star was a series

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<v Speaker 1>of ten smaller mirrors that intercepted the reflected light from

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<v Speaker 1>the primary mirror and then corrected it for that spherical aberration.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had to go up there and then do

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<v Speaker 1>some very delicate surgery on the Hubble Space telescope in orbit.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, This all took place in in December of

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<v Speaker 1>nine three UM. The installation required eleven months of training

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<v Speaker 1>and five days of spacewalks once they actually got up there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about it because you know, you're in

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<v Speaker 1>those giants space suits, right, you have very little mobility,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a lot of flexibility. It's it's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a limited period of time that you can be

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<v Speaker 1>out there. It's incredibly high risk kind of operation and

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<v Speaker 1>also just one that's just monumentally difficult. But they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to do it. They were able to make this replacement. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't come cheaply. The estimated costs were somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the round of eighty six million dollars. It's a big

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<v Speaker 1>mistake to have to fix. And then subsequent visits to

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<v Speaker 1>the hubble involved replacing some of the old instrumentation on

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<v Speaker 1>there with new versions of it that could by themselves

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<v Speaker 1>account for that spherical aberration, meaning that co star eventually

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<v Speaker 1>became obsolete because the instruments could correct for the error

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<v Speaker 1>all on their own. They didn't need that extra set

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<v Speaker 1>of mirrors. So that's kind of cool and in another

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<v Speaker 1>prick and Elmer system would need a replacement. Uh you,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I mentioned that they had the fine guidance system.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the second part of the systems they worked on.

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<v Speaker 1>So fine guidance system was all about letting the hubble

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<v Speaker 1>remained very stable while taking measurements and to very finely

0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.960
<v Speaker 1>tune the telescope's directions that you're pointing exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to point at. They had to replace one of

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<v Speaker 1>the three sensors, which a huge deal because that is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's wear and tear like eventually, so and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like that was a faulty system, but this

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<v Speaker 1>gave Perkin Elmer a pretty black eye at least in

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<v Speaker 1>the space industry for a little while. Uh, and became

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the stuff of legend in in the NASA chronicles.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a mistake that no one knew about

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<v Speaker 1>until after the Hubble Space Telescope was in orbit, which

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<v Speaker 1>was decades after Perkin Elmer had gotten the contract. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, anytime you've got a near billion dollar mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a government contract. That's not that's not looking great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty rough. So we've got a lot more to

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<v Speaker 1>say here. But yeah, yeah, don't worry. It's if we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have it's not sad ending books. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a happy ending, we promise. But we're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break to thank our sponsor. Alright, so we're back,

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<v Speaker 1>and now that we've got the Hubble hubbub out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way, uh, we're gonna go back to nineteens sent eight.

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<v Speaker 1>So we took a little bit of a diversion in

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<v Speaker 1>order to cover all of Hubble. I thought it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been too confusing to actually intersperse Hubble with the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of this. It would admit a big mess. But

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<v Speaker 1>N E. G and G. Remember them, that's the other

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<v Speaker 1>company we had been talking about They joined the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Energy in Morgantown, West Virginia, in order to look

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<v Speaker 1>at fossil fuel and alternative energy research, and that following years,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy nine, E G and G would establish

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<v Speaker 1>a new company called E. G and G Hydro Incorporated,

0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to establish hydro electric power sources in the northeastern United States. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>back in ninety eight, while we're time hopping around, UM,

0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.520
<v Speaker 1>some E G G monitoring equipment was used aboard aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>measuring the radiation levels at Three Mile Island. Yeah, so

0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that was the nuclear power facility in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>that accidentally released radioactive coolant in the form of steam,

0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and so they needed to have ways of measuring the

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<v Speaker 1>radiation without putting people in harm's way. Uh. It's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me again just to see how far from the

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<v Speaker 1>origin of eggs. Uh. You know, per this, we've come

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<v Speaker 1>from high speed photography to Three Mile Islands and fossil

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<v Speaker 1>fuels and alternative energy. That's kind of interesting. Nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>they also do something else with extreme photography. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about setting up cameras around Mount St. Helen's, which erupted

0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:19.520
<v Speaker 1>that year. Uh. An enormous eruption that that was, uh,

0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, read your history books for that, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was I remember living through uh the news reports on that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was always really dramatic. So they set up

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<v Speaker 1>cameras to help the U. S. Government kind of keep

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on what was going on, again, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do so without putting people in harm's way. Two NASA

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<v Speaker 1>awards E G and G a contract to provide base

0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:44.440
<v Speaker 1>operations support at Kennedy Space Center. Obviously a big contract there.

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<v Speaker 1>And in nineteen eighty five and E. G and G

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<v Speaker 1>scientists actually got to join the Space Shuttle crew for

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<v Speaker 1>a mission. It was Mission fifty one b slash Space

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<v Speaker 1>Lab three in order to study crystal growth in micro gravity.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just wonder, like, how cool is it for

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<v Speaker 1>you to say that you worked at a company where

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<v Speaker 1>one of your co workers got to go out into

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<v Speaker 1>space to do work. That's that's pretty cool. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>say that, No, we can't. Uh, one of our former

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<v Speaker 1>co workers went on a parabolic flight and got to

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<v Speaker 1>have um um uh you know, the the simulated weightlessness.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about as close as I think we've gotten, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still pretty neat. So N nine E G and G.

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<v Speaker 1>Is awarded contracts to support the Department of Energies super

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<v Speaker 1>conducting super collider project in Texas UM, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>super colliders are always awesome. Even when those projects don't

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately finish, it's still nifty. In nineties, some of their

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<v Speaker 1>components would play an integral role in the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Defenses global positioning satellites. Yeah, so we're talking super high

0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.960
<v Speaker 1>tech and in it was a big, big year. So

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<v Speaker 1>Perkin Elmer merged with a company called Applied Biosystems, which

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<v Speaker 1>was founded by two Hewitt Packard employees, and that company

0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:10.040
<v Speaker 1>designed and manufactured scientific instruments, the first one being a

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<v Speaker 1>protein sequencer. In October of n Perkin Elmer agreed, along

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<v Speaker 1>with Hughes Aircraft, to pay a twenty five million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>fine to head off a government lawsuit regarding that Hubble

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<v Speaker 1>mistake you talked about. Perkin Elmer's specific share of that

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<v Speaker 1>would be fifteen million dollars, which, when you consider that

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<v Speaker 1>the the price of the or the cost of the

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<v Speaker 1>error was much higher than that, I guess they were

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<v Speaker 1>getting off relatively easy. Yeah. I have no doubt whatsoever

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<v Speaker 1>that the people at Perkin Elmer were trying very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to make a good product just based upon the company's history.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also I mean, they were under a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of criticism saying that after all this time, when all

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<v Speaker 1>that testing, you would think that that aberration would have

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<v Speaker 1>revealed itself. And some people alleged that there were at

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<v Speaker 1>least folks at Perkin Elmer who were aware of the

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<v Speaker 1>problem but allowed it to go on anyway. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's true or not, I don't know, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was certainly in the allegations. Also, E G. And G

0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.960
<v Speaker 1>got into the micro machining game in a partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>the Institute of Microelectronics, National University of Singapore, so building

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<v Speaker 1>lots of teeny tiny machine parts at this point in

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<v Speaker 1>was another big year. Uh So that year Perkin Elmer

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<v Speaker 1>reported revenues of more than one billion dollars. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>not doing too bad for themselves despite all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Huw about how about that that fifteen million dollar uh

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<v Speaker 1>fine might not seem so uh so monumental in comparison

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<v Speaker 1>to a one billion dollar revenue. You never want to

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<v Speaker 1>find obviously, but um and and a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>was coming from that from that life Life Sciences division

0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that they had just recently m. Yeah, so life sciences

0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.159
<v Speaker 1>was becoming a really big part of Perkin Elmer's portfolio.

0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean before they were really in chemistry in general

0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and inorganic chemistry in particular. And yeah, so now we've

0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing them branch out. Meanwhile, E, G and G

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:14.320
<v Speaker 1>reorganizes into five operating segments, uh, and then almost immediately

0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.760
<v Speaker 1>discontinues one of those five. They had a Department of

0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Energy Support division, but with all of that stuff that

0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.479
<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about for the past couple of decades, right,

0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.479
<v Speaker 1>all the alternative energy stuff, all that. But what happened

0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.520
<v Speaker 1>was they had made a bid on a particular contract,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't work out, and the company ultimately decided that

0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.080
<v Speaker 1>it made more sense to just fold the division than

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<v Speaker 1>to continue trying to bid for these contracts. They still

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<v Speaker 1>got government contracts in other ways, but not in energy anymore. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also something big happened just in world news, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that that underwater tunnel between England and France, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chunnel, the Channel. I once had the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>go on a trip underneath the channel, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get a chance to take it. But this is really

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<v Speaker 1>cool because you know, G and G was the company

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<v Speaker 1>that did all that seismic mapping of the English Channel

0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:08.399
<v Speaker 1>to try and study the possibility of having this underwater tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is we're seeing it start to pay off

0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.880
<v Speaker 1>decade later. Uh and in nine, E G MNG one

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<v Speaker 1>government contracts to build advanced X ray and explosives detection

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<v Speaker 1>systems for locations ranging from the Manchester Airport at the

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<v Speaker 1>in the United Kingdom to federal courthouses throughout the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>So again really branching out, nineteen, the non governmental division

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<v Speaker 1>of E G MNG purchases the Analytical Instruments division of

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<v Speaker 1>Perkin Elmer for four and fifty two million dollars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so now they change the name or this is why

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about E G and G and Perkin

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<v Speaker 1>Elmer for two episodes. You know, you've been waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>find out how are these two companies involved, apart from

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they occasionally worked on projects that came

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<v Speaker 1>together in the form of the Apollo program. It's because

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<v Speaker 1>the year in part of E G m G buys

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<v Speaker 1>part of Perkin Elmer, and the new company is called

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<v Speaker 1>Perkin Elmer, except it doesn't have a dash in it. Yeah,

0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.359
<v Speaker 1>we probably should have mentioned that Perkin Elmer previously had

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<v Speaker 1>a dash between Perkin and Elmer. Yes, imagine every single

0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:14.879
<v Speaker 1>time that we have said the word Perkin Elmer previously

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.280
<v Speaker 1>in these two episodes, that we were saying Perkin Elmer

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<v Speaker 1>but with a dash. Yeah, now we're saying Perkin Elmer

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<v Speaker 1>with no dash, which obviously saved the company millions of

0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:27.960
<v Speaker 1>dollars by eliminating that dash. Um. But now, seriously, they

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<v Speaker 1>became Perkin Elmer. So what happened to the rest of

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.359
<v Speaker 1>the Perkin Elmer company. You know, only part of it

0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.200
<v Speaker 1>was purchased by E. G and G. Right, the old

0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:41.120
<v Speaker 1>company became PE Corporation, which was focused on that life

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.360
<v Speaker 1>sciences and biotechnology kind of stuff. Yeah, and also on genomics.

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<v Speaker 1>So in two thousand, PE Corporation changes its name to

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<v Speaker 1>apple Era, which was a kind of a portmanteau of

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<v Speaker 1>Applied and Selera, which were parts of other companies they

0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 1>had acquired previously. Yes, and if you happen to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to you forward thinking, you will know that Celera is

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<v Speaker 1>a genetics and genomics company that in fact has very

0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:07.919
<v Speaker 1>little to do with Selary, despite what it sounds like. Right,

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 1>So we finally have this point now where we've got

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<v Speaker 1>we've got Perkin Elmer. Uh, there was a brief time

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>where Perkin Elmer and PE Corporation made it really really confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>And plus you had you know, the the governmental parts

0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of E G and G that still exists as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh complicated issue. So from two thousand to two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen, we had even more crazy corporate shenanigans going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, a lot of a lot of purchases and

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<v Speaker 1>acquisitions and change name changes. The name specifically Applied bios

0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Biosystems got tossed around and capitalized and recapitalized in several

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 1>different iterations. Yeah, it was changed from Applied Biosystems to

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.880
<v Speaker 1>like PE Biosystems, and then a year later changed back

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<v Speaker 1>to Applied Biosystems and then eventually acquired by a totally

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 1>different company. So yeah, we're this is why this is

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.280
<v Speaker 1>a really complicated topic. It's not just the technology, which

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:04.600
<v Speaker 1>all on its own is complex, but because we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the really uh muddy and sometimes political world of

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<v Speaker 1>commerce and how a company is more than just a

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<v Speaker 1>single unit. It's made up of all these other divisions

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and subsidiaries. I think it's really messy really quickly. In fact,

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 1>there were elements of some of these companies that had

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<v Speaker 1>their own stock symbols, So you had divisions within one

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:29.399
<v Speaker 1>company that each were being publicly traded but in different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's unusual too, or at least unusual to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it may happen all the time, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those things where I was like, really,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's not entirely uncommon, but yeah, well, you know,

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it shows how much I play the stock market. I

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<v Speaker 1>I that stuff is just opaque to me. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>so what exactly is Perkin Elmer no dash up to today? Wow?

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 1>So much stuff? Okay. So Perkin Elmer also owns lots

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<v Speaker 1>of other little subs of the eeries. When I say little,

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about multimillion smaller than Perkin Elmer, which is enormous.

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>It's a two point two billion dollar company. So Perkin

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Elmer is involved in things like stem cell research, has

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>a subsidiary called via Cord that does that kind of work.

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Also genomics and diagnostics through a company called Signature Genomics.

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Also prenatal screening through Perkin Elmer Labs, slash nt D

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:31.719
<v Speaker 1>viral and bacterial DNA slash RNA isolation, chemical analysis, thermal analysis.

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>This one's really cool, the thermal analysis because imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>you are a giant manufacturing company and you work with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different chemicals and you are trying to

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>create a new product, but you're not entirely sure if

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.680
<v Speaker 1>your processes are going to work with the chemicals you

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.880
<v Speaker 1>want to use, Like you aren't really sure if your

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 1>factories are going to explode or not, that kind of thing.

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 1>What thermal analysis does is run through the various processes

0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>at the same temperatures and conditions that you would have

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>your production facilities to see what happens. So if toxins

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 1>are let out, if there's anything dangerous, if the ultimate

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>uh end product is not serviceable for some reason. It's

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a prototyping for chemical manufacturing. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of neat. Uh. They've also got their

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<v Speaker 1>hands and energy conservation UM and like green energy solutions

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and environmental monitoring and analysis that all

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<v Speaker 1>like pollution and toxin detection kind of stuff. Food science, neutraceuticals,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a word that they use, neutraceuticals. You guys, This

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<v Speaker 1>is the best word I have ever heard in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't seen that until it showed up in the notes. Neutraceuticals.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure they mean vitamins. Yeah, that that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>They also are involved in creating forensic analytical lab equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>so for law enforcement agencies and that sort of thing,

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and they do consumer product materials testing. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>an other way where they try and help companies determine

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 1>that their products are indeed non toxic. Very important. Let's

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>say you're making toys for young kids, or or or

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>cookware or comfiting or I mean basically anything that we

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>come into contact with has to go through this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of testing. UM and haza for having fewer things around

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<v Speaker 1>us that cause cancer, right exactly. So this is the

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of company that builds the stuff that allows other

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 1>companies to finish their products. It's one of those that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you've never heard Park and Elmer before,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's it's not a big surprise, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's not one of those that is usually

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<v Speaker 1>direct to consumers and any kind of way unless you

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<v Speaker 1>work with scientific lab equipment, in which case you may

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 1>be really familiar with it. Yeah, So this has really

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>been an interesting topic for us to cover because I

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>was not familiar with Park and Elmer apart from I

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>knew of it because the hubble hubbub, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>all I had heard of. And I really wasn't familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of the equipment because my my experience

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>in chemistry, I remember doing titrations and that's about as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I remember, and that didn't involve any any

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>complex equipment. Yeah, my kind of experiences from like tenth

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>grade in high school. Yeah, So it's it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>while for each of us, and so it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fun to go back and look at this stuff. It's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, material that I don't often look over, and

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>it's fun to to explore that. So if any of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have suggestions for other fun topics we can cover,

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, something that you've always wondered about, even if

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you know maybe it's one of those things kind of

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>like this this subject where it involves lots of different

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.880
<v Speaker 1>types of tech. Let us know. We like the challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give us a lot of heads up time, uh, Like, Hey,

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the anniversary is coming up next week of such and

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>such company that's been around for four years. That might Yeah,

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