WEBVTT - Episode 225 w/ Smoke DZA and Hovain 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:16.840 His Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper, 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.840 he's screed is your boy in? Or he's a Miami 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.560 hippop pioneer? What Up is d J e f N? 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.599 Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.480 you know, I mean in the most professional, unprofessional podcast 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.720 and yet number one sorts for drunk fast drinks, motherfuckings 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:37.599 New Year's Eve, that's it's time for drink Champs. Drink up, 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:46.320 motherfuck mother. What a good vie. Hopefully want this to be. 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.120 This is your boy? What up is d J e 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.080 f N? This is drink Chance, motherfucker. Yeah, y'all makes 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:58.440 up and right now. I love doing these episodes. When 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.840 you have you know, artists extorterin there, then you have 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.440 the manager extroter their you know what ianth I'm saying, 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.120 the person that can talk about in front of the 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.520 scenes and the person that can talk about behind the scenes. 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:10.480 The person they gonna talk about what it took to 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.200 get them in front of that camera, and the person 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.360 is god talk about what it takes to get that 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.160 person in front of camera. I love this combination of artists. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.720 You know, our management role I love. These two brothers 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.160 right here. One is a relatingist, we smoking advocate, got 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.479 ten ten independent albums, got albums with all type with motherfucker's. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:30.360 I can't even name so many because he's got so many. 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.360 He got more and it works. Damn. He was the 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.400 first person to work with can sell them. You know, 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.680 understand I'm saying. I called him the East Coast. I 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.720 called him to New York snoop doll. You know what 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.040 I'm saying. Get you don't know what motherfucker's smoked up. 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.840 And the other one, you guys, the manager extorter there, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.920 the man is top of the you know, damn there 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:53.520 running cinematic, doing what you gotta do, bringing artists from everywhere, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.200 bringing them together and making them working, and not only 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.600 making them work and having them work, but making them 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:06.720 make some money. Take I think both drink Chams alumni. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.079 I think you you briefly. I was on briefly in 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:14.240 New York. Yeah, no, man, you've been on camera. Dri 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:18.240 You've just been I think Christmas Special we made Christmas 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.480 on But I've been on the set of A two 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.359 hundred times. But yes, yes, yes, so hope we're gonna 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:29.359 start with you, right being's watched by the way, I 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.400 mean a lot, you know what I mean, Like I 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:38.320 was glad somebody pointed out that little thank you. Let's 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.400 start with you, right, because I remember seeing this blog 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.080 right and it said this guy was saying, Yeah, before 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.760 you want me to manage, you, think about what you're 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.720 asking me, right, And he's like, yo, because you're asking 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:55.480 me to put yourself before me. You're asking me to 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.600 think about you before I think about my kids. You 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.240 asked me to think about you before I think about 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.480 my family. Anything like that. So being sure when you 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:07.280 ask somebody for management, and I thought that that was real, real, real, honorable, true. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.400 But it's also a side that artists don't see. So 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:12.919 it's a two part question. Well, let's let's start in 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:17.320 the one part of it is that accurate statement. Because 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.679 let's say I'm managing you and I got plans to 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.079 go out with my wife and my kids, and you say, oh, hove, 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.920 I got emergency. You gotta come to the studio. Guys, 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.360 I can't go. I gotta go full up on nor 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.359 you gotta do. You know what I'm saying. So being 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.960 a manager, yourselfless, you put your artists before yourself because 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.040 that's the role of the job. Goddamn it, goddamn now smoked. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.680 This is that like, it's how how was it with 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.960 you when you did you start out? You have management 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.080 or that wasn't not something? Um? Well shoot, how I 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:49.520 started out? I ain't originally have management. UM. Me and 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.640 Johnny came in together, Me and Johnny Schife right Cinematic, 0:03:53.760 --> 0:04:00.520 So you know, I helped start Cinematic with Johnny, which, um, 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.840 which tied into being an owner of the Smokers Club, 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.560 a tour that we started at south By Southwest. I 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.000 mean so that okay, okay, I thought that was a 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.400 part of I knew you started it, but I thought 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:19.120 that was south By Southwest, So that's we launched it 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.240 at south By on nine. Um, we had Devin to 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:28.240 do headline it, and under Devin was Smokers Club, all right, 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.920 So the Smokers Club is basically our breakfast club of 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:36.800 pot smokers. UM. The tour started with me currency and 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:41.320 Big Creek Um being Cornerboy paint Um, and you know, 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:46.280 gradually it extended to Juicy j Um, Joe Be, Badass, 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:50.520 Eppisode Be Real, Met the Man, Red Man, Um Burner. 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.440 The list goes on. But uh, you know, it's something 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.880 we just started as just our crewe, you know what 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.240 I mean. Niggas just always smoked together. We smoked the 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:02.440 same type of mar wanna keep for me on? You know. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.280 It was just something that we could start for us 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:09.200 by us, and it just started as just as an 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.040 idea on shaped roof, just you know, we just smoke 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.840 this club named the show at south By that and 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.400 then it turned into a south By the first two 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.920 thousand nine. That's pretty much our drinking traps. So it 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:27.440 was just a crew just sitting around. He would be 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.320 playing poker and I would be recorded, And if you 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.640 really think about it, poker and recording, it's kind of 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:37.360 like the same time. So what are you doing that 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.159 coup point? Alright? Cool in the background? Alright, cool? All right? 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.360 So yeah, so that's that's crazy. So all right, spoke. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.200 What's them moving on? How did you in currency even 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.160 link up? Well, me and Spitter? Funny ship is I 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.760 met Spitter with Spitter with smoking blunts. He's probably gonna 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.160 hate this. No, we're gonna spin into that into that. 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.640 But um I met Spit, I want to say, because 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:02.160 he'd go on a because you don't know, I was 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.480 into that, so I mess Spitting in two thousand and 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.760 eight when he was on the Freshman cover, I met 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.800 him through Mickey Facts. Mickey had a session and he 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.160 had he had spit of the he had Corey guns there. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:18.920 You had a few people there and we had cut 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.080 a racket prematurely. Um. And then maybe like a year 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.960 and a half later going to d D one seventy 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.720 two shot out to Dame Dash. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.800 one of my mentors. Relink with Spitter, And this is 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:33.880 the time he was living in New York. Ain't becoming 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:40.320 less crazy nowadays, he's craziest sane. It's one of those 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.080 craziest sane. You know what I mean. You know when 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:48.400 he was telling the truth, he was yellow so much passionate. Yeah, 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.600 but I don't want to keep going so um. So 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:52.720 that was around the time he was living in New 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.400 York and ship and you know, I always know where 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.680 the weed is at all, got it? So that was 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.560 our bond, smoking weed and eating weed brown And a 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.520 lot of niggas think New York don't got good weed. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:05.800 Like a lot of people like like if you don't know, 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:07.840 that's the only l a niggas that that feel like 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:16.520 that just now he is though niggas is weed snob, 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:21.280 so snob weed snobs all right, so on to you know, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.680 we call this thing called fan weed, right with Sometimes 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.160 the fans got good weed, and then sometimes they got 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.280 weed which is whatever they think is good. But that 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.040 might not fit criteria, so that would be the weed 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.360 that would be like, you know, give it to the 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.360 homies or or whatever. But when I say weed snobs, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:45.120 we did niggas that we're gonna turn the hook. We're 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.800 gonna turn our nose up. If the weed ain't right, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.800 we might send you back with the weed. Throw a 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.200 couple of times dudes through weed to me on stage 0:07:54.200 --> 0:08:00.120 and yeah, I'm never worried about smoking whatever. Some one 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:05.120 just throws out. Can't give me nothing. But but it 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.720 was like a criminal, like a girl throwing panties on stage, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.920 Like at first, let you say something when I first. 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.680 You gotta realize when I first was going on stage 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.720 and people don't read at me, this is there. Coming 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:22.200 to Miami another going to Atlanta um strip club ship 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.640 was kind of corny to us. So throwing our culture 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.840 that's our court. But I didn't know that at the time. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.160 So meeting on stage. A person don't want anything at me. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.520 I like, the first time I want to do wead 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.480 at me. We beat the ship out to do like 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:44.679 we were in the crowd whom he was like a 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.520 strip no, because it's the same thing you're doing. So 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.160 it was it wasn't so he said, you look at 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.160 what I do. And then we looked and I was like, oh, 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:57.640 court to pan, okay, this is dack, you know what 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.719 I mean. But but it's it's something that that that 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.360 is different. But okay, I'm sorry because because you got 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.040 me reminiscing this ship. So you know that's that's just 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.040 the definition of weeds. Not for us. It's a person 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.079 who knows it. We know it. And if you come 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.160 with something that's not it with some funny names and 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.320 some ship you want to name, that's not even gonna 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:16.839 send you back with it. Let me tell your funny 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.760 story man and styles p right, that's another weed SnO, okay, 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:27.120 lit right, we get, we get. I don't know what change, 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:37.240 so let me tell you. So we all we go 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:42.280 to HT Times Cannabis Cup Award. Right, so we're the judges, right, 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.679 me and stole A. Everybody else is not look like us. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.679 So we go to the Hot Times mansion. And the 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.520 Hot Times Mansion was ill because the higher you got 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.960 in the mansion, it was like a seventh floor mansion. 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.000 And Answerdam, You've been the answer them Asterdam was a 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.120 small She's like that. So but the higher you got, 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.960 the small of the room, Scott, but the more potent 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.040 this ship was. So they had dabs back and like 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.880 this is a fact, like like fifty years ago. Anyway, 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.560 this is probably like the only time I got mad 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.439 at styles people Styles being sitting there looking at we 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:23.439 like inspect the gadget and you know, I don't know why, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.480 maybe mad, but I was just looking like, yeah, we 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:30.360 hunt and we don't keeping moving. I was like, I'm shot. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:37.199 He said, your Norri, I'm taking my job. Sious and 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.160 he did serious, was like and then he was He 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.120 kept saying, I'm trying to be invited back. But now 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.480 she is crazy because at some point it goes from 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.360 just wanting to get high to wanting a feeling like 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.080 it's at a certain point like I like a sour 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.240 o g feeling right here and there I can do 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.800 my flavors to the runts, to the CERTs, to the 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.880 to the cookies of what I'm but predominantly, if I 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.400 could pick, I'd like to keep my lungs old school, 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.280 like the sour of the old geez. So, so how 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.640 is it with you saying? I mean I'm an old 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.360 g guy, you know what I mean? And I still 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.800 smoke sour from time to time if some good sour 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.000 coming around, I found no good sour from long time. 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:20.959 Next time you come up top, I got yeah, no, 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.240 so um, yeah, you know I funk with the flavors 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.199 every now and then too. But for me, you know, 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.599 runs with funk with runs and I you know, I 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.480 funk with me and I funk with ain't about Nick, 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.600 ain'tbody over there. But um, you know, when it comes 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.240 to the funny names and ship outside of the ones 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.959 you feel me, it's like nigga, we could just name 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.160 some weed. We can name this weed right now, get 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.160 a bag marketed, and it's it's whatever we say. You 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.439 don't spoke up, o G. That's the first one. But 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:56.319 my second one is Jesus told. Now, Jesus told, just 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.480 make sure the packaging is good and out right. Now 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.319 they just want the bag. You want me to bring it? 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.640 You want me. Look, I don't. I don't want to 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.400 pick up your hall on niggers too much, but I'm 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.480 gonna be honest. You know, the first time I've ever 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:16.680 seen we marketed chice bubbs. It was a spot called 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.400 three Wise Men. I can't tell if it was a 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:25.920 Hunting forty three or hunting forty kind of rising. Maybe 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:29.959 we're gonna fall off word. I've never seen this. I 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.559 never that was this, but there was a spot called 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.679 three Wise Men. This is what Biggie got machine gun 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:41.079 funk from what they used to do was everyone had 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:45.160 twenty bags, dimebags whatever they used to just give you, 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.760 I know, like a fortune cookie. So we used to 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.240 say machine gun funk on it, or like Buddha Buddha. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.240 So that was like the first marketing. So they had 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.040 the same exact ship that what's your COLDA had them 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:00.839 one four nine or what's you called it had a 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.240 hunt four when you come up with dry burn Bridge. 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.120 That's the same exact sh But the fact was they 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:11.880 took time out. It wrote me a note. I kept 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.400 coming back just for that. And then who was pick 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:20.360 up your Heart? Yeah that's the next the very next 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:25.720 person who marketed weed that everyone is copying off of now. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.240 No dis respect to everyone, from cookies to runs to everybody, 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.760 all of them. I know everybody. But if they didn't 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.480 really know the history that branching bag, you couldn't duplicate that, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.120 can you remember? Let me just tell you something. Let 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.960 me just tell you something. Listen to me. You couldn't 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:47.040 bull it. You could not go to Chinatown whenever. However 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.000 he did it, they could not. And if you did it, 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.559 you it looked at it looked at through gazing, like 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.000 the way his bag one, this ship was. This bag 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.320 was so crazy. This I've never told this story before. Pone, 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:04.040 I'm sorry. I'm ready bones in jail. I literally can't 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:05.959 see my man in jail. I can if I wanted to. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:11.160 So I'm lit, though I get licked up. I get lit, 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:16.520 you know, So I'm like, I I want to know anyway. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.680 So what I couldn't do is keep it shortly laced. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.200 So I told her. The one thing I didn't tell 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.360 her was to take it out the bags. So the 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.320 next time the chicken showed me, she was like, yo, 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:31.840 that ship cut my whole ship up. Because she must 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.640 have took the ship and not take it. She left 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.240 it in the triangles. That ship got on y'all. I mean, 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:45.600 what kind of let just this is how, this is how, 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.440 this is the first time. I kind of think that 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.080 I was being spiked because it was one time I 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.080 woke up. I had no bud. Wait, did they spiked 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.520 your weed? I thought I thought I was bit spiked 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.680 because I won't got I had no bud, have money 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.920 on me. Everybody in my street like yo, yo, you 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.840 want some, but I'm like nah. I waited for our cab. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.720 I went all the way to a hundred and fifty 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:17.360 first Street at satan Nick before I smoked. Yeah, he 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.120 was on another type of time and it was late 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:29.680 and it was brown on the weed. He had the 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:34.000 tostic It wasn't always green the top not talking to 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.880 It's called tostick. And then he had the green. I 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.360 never remember what the green was. I was suggested was Joe, 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.120 but Branson still out there. We're gonna get him on 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.000 the show. Branson got the juice bar right now to 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.760 and he got his own. Fampaigne got his own still 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:55.960 got tiger bone. To another person in that conversation, I 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.440 want to say that you know I'm market and at 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.480 least for me, is the person and that put me 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.960 on to real weed for real, and that Shice Bubbs 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.880 because because because at first I thought you and See 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.120 Bubbs was a group that was under dip set. That's 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:12.760 what I thought, because that's what I first seen you 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:16.040 at right right rightly see now, sh Shics had Purple City, 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:21.000 which was his own movement with Kasa a um a mafia. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.440 I was just a young nigger that used to be around, 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.600 right and I was a part of a group smoking 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.000 numbers at this time, just doing my work. I mean, 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.480 this was what this was what Johnny, This is just me, 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.160 you know, just trying to find my footing, and Johnny 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.560 linked me with Shice, and Shice took a liking to me. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.840 So I want to I was Purple City, but it 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.520 was like I was a little man. I was a 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:49.160 little and that's what it in a cruil city, okay. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.480 And Purple City to me is stip set, so right right, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:56.320 right right right, And this is before and this is 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.240 this is before I knew Jim and Camp, you know, 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:02.000 so I was still an see me, I would think 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:03.520 all of your hall of niggas just know each other, 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.840 like by default. I think y'all just took at this 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.000 point or you didn't know them at that I didn't 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.920 know them at this thought in my mind you Max 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.400 b Cam oh, y'all was in the same home room 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.080 punishing around that time. I used to be around Max 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.960 because Max used to be and the sessions with Shice, 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:27.520 you know what I mean, and shooting the knick Knack 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.159 video and all that ship Like I was there for 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.160 the Trap Nigger video, just sitting behind the scenes seeing 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.000 how she was moving, wanting to be extra in the video, 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.639 just to be in it, you know. But that was, 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:39.960 you know, part of my dream ventus frames on what 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.439 are those those pieces are? John Paul got to you right? 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:50.600 Come on looking at my so bang you you're working 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.200 on your own all right immediately right? You know what, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.119 I'll wait for that for the shot, but you are, 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.440 so how do you go from We're gonna gonna do 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.399 some shots, Lea's around, Oh he's outside. I feel like 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.119 he's doing a little bumball. So so how do you 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.600 even even I got I got a bunch of management 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.399 questions we actually got this Thursday, We're supposed to have 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:18.720 Eric Knix and James Cruise come up and kick some bolly. Now, 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.560 um one thing that I noticed, right, I didn't know 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:29.760 how much a headache artists for That's what I like. 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.640 I wanted to do that. And I technically can't get 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.040 mad at any artists because there's not one thing that 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.720 they've done but I have not done. So I technically 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.119 gotta shut the funk up. But how is that keeping patience? 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.840 How is that? And and okay, go ahead. I mean 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:47.960 it's like it's like anything you do, you gotta know 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.480 what you're signing up for. And every artist is different. 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.480 The way um and what this is't not the way 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.880 and with is not the way I am with styles. 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.920 Every artist is different management it is not like a 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.399 broad thing is ala Carman. So the things you may 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.040 need for me, he might not need. I might have 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.080 to call you every morning at seven a week. You 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.440 up to go over business, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.240 So you just gotta know your personnel and just kind 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.920 of like it's like having children almost you know, you 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.080 know what Noah likes? You know what? You know? What 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.280 do you keep your clients out to a minimum because 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.920 you can't spread yourself to things. You see, Now, I'm 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.520 part of a management company. I'm the president of cinematic management. 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.000 So I have other managers under me, so it's like delegation. 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.640 I learned delegation. So all right, you go with this artist, 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:32.439 but I'm gonna still call and check and make sure 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.560 everything is running smooth. So is it about knowing the 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.040 staff too, because what if you put somebody with with 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.520 deer that that don't smoke and like he just knowing 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:45.000 your personnel not to send nobody else who does for me. 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.159 If it's somebody who don't smoke, it's not gonna work. Well, 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:50.720 you know what I'm saying. So for sudden with this, 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:53.600 I'll try to go or he'll handle it on his own, 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:57.160 you know what I'm saying. Styles somebody like I don't 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.480 book him a hotel and don't get a balcony because 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.760 he got some mot make sure they got vegan options 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:04.800 for you know what I'm saying. So you just got 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.600 to know your person now. Like one time I um 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.600 I walked in the room. We we this is like 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.280 the no smoking policy just started. Everyone in death Jam 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:16.120 was like, yo, don't smoke in your fucking rooms. Put 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.320 you so everybody, we're all on point. Then DMX teas 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.080 to be downstairs, like you know what you're doing checking 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.720 the mouthtop But I don't know, keep going to the DMX, 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.880 moving this movie like the cigarette. I'm like that, I'm 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:32.920 not ten times flatinum trying to do that. But um so, 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:38.320 now so now now what is there? Were crying? Miss right? 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.639 If you what is there a difference from working with 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:45.400 a new artist, um then working with the elder Statesman? 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:50.320 Because the Elder Statesman been through it before. He he's 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.000 not getting too super excited about new ship. You know 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:54.600 what to bring to him, like he has a certain 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.360 standard with a new artist, like you kind of gotta 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.480 hold his hand and walk him through everything. You try 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.359 to be at everything, every first, every first award show, 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:06.160 every plaque ceremony. Older guy, like you know, he knows 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.040 what he likes, he knows what to do with most, 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.920 most most, most of all, he wants ship to be routine. 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.000 Who's the most improved artist? Who happen? Like who's the 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.000 artist that you worked with? And he was like, I'll 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.040 never work with again? And then you wind up saying 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:22.159 you know what he is? All I don't know? And 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:27.800 there's there's gotta be pros and constant like the old 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:29.840 artists could be more stubborn than the young yards. They're 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:31.760 more stuck in their ways. So it's like you're trying 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.520 to change somebody behavior that has been used to first 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.800 class flights and the remote and the rich cars and 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:39.560 for twenty years, and you were like, yo, no, not 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:43.399 this budget. You manage the artists now that's from the 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.119 era in the nineties that had the budgets and had 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.720 the big labels. They don't understand that mentality. It's hard 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:50.520 to crack and be like, no, that's what I want. 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.320 It's very tough to work with people who were who 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.320 their hey day was behind them sometimes like it's got 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.359 to pick and choose because sometimes people be like the 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:03.200 plastic cup then mindset of this is how it should 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:04.760 be and not this how it is. You know what 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:12.200 I'm saying, you wouldn't want to I'm ship, come on 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:16.560 man from left Frock bro in bro I like, I'll 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.200 be sitting pictures of whole with drinking ace of Spade. 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.000 Like there's like like, yo, you don't want to upgrade 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:25.080 your cup. I'm like, no, they're gonna wantain you. Baby, 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:30.600 I want to rEFInd you. Come on, let's get this. Yeah. 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.280 Oh my bad, my bad. I apologize, I apologize. Come on, 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:35.920 let's get some shots going. What you what you're doing? 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:37.800 The shot I gotta do. Say you guys have some 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.480 you want shout the shot the in with the Columbia white, 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:44.800 with the Colombian white. He doesn't put no ice in 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:51.280 his ships. Shot. It's like how you call it. It's 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.720