1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: It was an NFL trade deadline. To remember for the 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Jets is Darren Mugy pulled off a couple of blockbusters. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that where Brian Balding are coming up. Also, 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: we're going to preview Jets brown Sunday at MetLife Stadium 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: with Baldy. We meet anybody in the world, and I 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: think we're gonna win. 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Next Sunday's. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: Jets wonderful. 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Can't wait, Put your seat belts on and get ready 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: for the ride. 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In fact, I was on 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: WFA and New York doing my weekly Tuesday hit when 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: the sauce gardener trade came down. Like literally, I got 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: it in real time as I was on the show, 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: the midday Show, and so I was just you know, 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: I was just taking on my feet, going it's good 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: for Indianapolis. They really need a star corner and they 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: could actually have a great defense. But it's good for 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: the Jets. It's just good for the Jets. I mean, 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: you acquire those kind of picks and you know, and 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: you free up a lot of money. And look, I 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: believe that Azariah Thomas, you know it can be a player. 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: He played well in the last game that he played. 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: And then when quinnin Steel went down to Dallas, I thought, 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: more picks and you can maybe build this in the 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: eyes that Moogs and Aaron Glenn wants to build it, 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: they deserve that right to do it. Nobody's going to 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: have more draft capital to get. 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: It done with. 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: But it was it was shocking to see both those 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: players get moved. But then to get the value for 39 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: it is well. 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: Baldy just touched on it. The value is the key 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: word here, because Derren Muji talked this week about him 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: meeting with his personnel department each week and saying, this 43 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: is where we assess the value on our players, and 44 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: we know we anticipate before the deadline, we are going 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: to get calls, and specifically when we're talking about Indianapolis, 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: he said the offer got sweeter with time or bigger 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: with time more assets. 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I just in fact, it's it's pretty ironic. 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: Eric. 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: I just did the Colts and the Steelers game one 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: Sunday in Pittsburgh and I talked to lou Anarumo, their 52 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. He lives literally next door to me in 53 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: Florida and we're good friends. And I was asking him 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: because they were trying to get some corners back. Travarius 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: Ward has been hurt, Jalen Jones is hurt, and so 56 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: he's just like playing practice squad type guys. So I 57 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: was asking him about some of the guys that were playing. 58 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: He was like, I'm gonna do the best I can, Baldi, 59 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: but you know, honestly, like we we have to upgrade 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: the position, Like he told me that on Sunday. So 61 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: it's not that he's running the personnel depart in Indianapolis. 62 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: He isn't. 63 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: But this is a talented defensive coordinator, and what they 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: all want are players that they can count on, depend on, 65 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: and then they can create ways to disturb the other 66 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: team's quarterback going forward, I think Sauce is in a 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: good position. Alex Pearce is a star player, you know, 68 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: star wide receiver for him. They played together at Cincinnati. 69 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: He's gonna have at least one friend in the locker room. 70 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: But I thought Indy got the player they wanted. They 71 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: gave up a lot to get them. But you know, 72 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: some teams are looking to make a run saying we 73 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: could do it this year. They've got a great offense, 74 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: leading rusher in the league. So I mean, nobody wants 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: to see Sauce go. You know, he was the first 76 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: one on the field quality man up, you know, just 77 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: stand up guy. But in the apse of getting a 78 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: good player, the Jets are getting a lot of value. 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, make no mistake about it, buddy, in this Jets 80 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: organization appreciated what Sauce Gardner brought to the table for 81 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: this team. 82 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: Yep. 83 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: But when Muji looked at that trade proposal, it's two 84 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: first round picks, one first round pick in twenty twenty 85 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: six and another first round pick in twenty twenty seven. 86 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: And the Jets have you know, they're continuing to try 87 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: different things at the wide receiver position. So they get 88 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: another guy in ad Mitchell. What can you tell us 89 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: specifically after jumping more into the film room about Mitchell, 90 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: because that's a prolific Colts offense and they have a 91 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: lot of skill position talent. So maybe he was buried 92 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: down to depth chart, but he'll get more opportunities here 93 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: with the Green and White. 94 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: Well, it was really a depth chart thing. I mean, 95 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: they had Michael Pittman junior who they love, and they 96 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: had Alec Pierce, and then Josh Downs is a slot receiver, 97 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: and they just you know, they drafted Ty Warn. There 98 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: really wasn't a place on the field. 99 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: Now. 100 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: I saw him Week four against the Rams, and he 101 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: had a bonehead of play. I mean everybody saw. You know, 102 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: he's making an unbelievable play, seventy five yard touchdown, the 103 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: Accults are gonna win the game, and he starts celebrating 104 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: before he gets across the end zone line. We all 105 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: saw it and uh, you know it was a fumble 106 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: touchback and raised seven points that he had. 107 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: But the talent is there. Eric. 108 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: The guy's six to two, he's two oh five. He 109 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: runs in the mid four threes like he's legitimately, you know, 110 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 2: Georgia Texas the place heat. I mean, he's the top 111 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: flight talent and he he can run the routes he 112 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: can like he's there's skill there, real skill now this 113 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: year with this offense and the way it's going, like 114 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: he just there was just wasn't a whole lot of 115 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: three wide receiver sets or four wide receiver sets to 116 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: get him on the field. And so he got a 117 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: chance to play against the Rams because I think Pierce 118 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: was hurt that day and he had a good day 119 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: except for the you know, the head play that he 120 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: made not cross the goal line first. I'm sure he'll 121 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: learn from it, but there's real value in that. It's 122 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: the second round pick played at major universities. Like he 123 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: can flat out run and he's got size. 124 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the size speed combination is really interesting to me 125 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: because Baldy, when you watch him on film, is this 126 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: guy's got legit separation ability up here at this level. 127 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: So when you're looking at the Jets offense, they're coming 128 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: off a game where they masked more than five hundred 129 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: total yards and that was without their star receiver, Garrett Wilson. 130 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's expected back on the practice field this week. 131 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to see if he plays against the Browns. 132 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: But you know, you're starting to see some things come 133 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: together that are interesting for the Jets right now because 134 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: you do have Garrett Wilson, you do have I. 135 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: Think he could be a solid number two. I mean, 136 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: Garrett's gonna be the number one, but I can see ad. 137 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: I think he's more of it, just an outside guy. 138 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: You know, Garrett, you can move him around. 139 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: He's your Z. 140 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: You can put him in a lot of different spots 141 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: and he can flourish with matchups. But this is a 142 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: big X receiver now that can flat out run. And 143 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: he's when you watch, he's very smooth. He's not stiff, 144 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: he's not robotic. He comes out of his breaks good. 145 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: He catches the ball with his hands like there's there's 146 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: a lot I mean, look that draft that he came 147 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: out of. There was a lot of good receivers in 148 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: that draft. And you know, Xavier worthy some of these guys, 149 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: and honestly like he's like he's got the talent to 150 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: be a really good player. 151 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: Baldi, Let's go to the second blockbuster. I don't know 152 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: if you were live on Radio one that happen, but 153 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: your thoughts when you had heard that Quinnin Williams was 154 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: shipped to Dallas and the Jets were getting a second 155 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: round pick in twenty twenty six, a first round pick 156 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven, and a former first round pick 157 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: in Mazzie Smith. 158 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know they got the right team that they're 159 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: still trying to build a defense. They're hungry for good players. 160 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: You know, they made the trade with Michael Parsons earlier 161 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: this year. They got Kenny Clark, who's still a really 162 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: good player. I could see Kenny and Quinnin and Odiga 163 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: Zua as they're starting defensive tackles there in your base front. 164 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: He gives them better pass rush, I think than Kenny Clark. 165 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: But you know, they're trying to build their defense from 166 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: from the inside out. They they traded for Logan Wilson, 167 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: so they're trying to build their defense from the inside out. 168 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: They've had trouble even with Micah, they had trouble against 169 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: teams that could really run the football. They want to 170 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: get better there, and so they've got a very good offense, 171 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: very talented offense. You know, Jerry Quinn will find out 172 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: that Jerry treats his players very very well. 173 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: He'll like it. 174 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: There, And look, I think it's a chance for Quinn 175 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: to get a new beginning. Like, you know, he's he's 176 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: endured a lot of losing in New York and that 177 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: can wear players down. 178 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: I think it's a new beginning for him. 179 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: But to get that value for Quinn all right with 180 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: a big contract, Like he's still young, but you know 181 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: he's sick. 182 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. Was he six years into this now? 183 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: You know? 184 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: Hea, But like he's into this spring for a while, 185 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: like to be able to get a first and second 186 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: round pick and Mozzie, And look, Mozzie's got his issues. 187 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: He wasn't a fan this new regime of Brian Schottenheimer 188 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: and Matt Eaberfoilis they won a fan. He was inactive 189 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: for a lot of games. But you know, the talent 190 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: that made him a first round pick coming out of 191 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: Michigan is still there. He does have to figure out 192 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: a way to become a better pass rusher. He said 193 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: he lost weight, got in better shape this year. You 194 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: don't really see much pass rush. But I mean if 195 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: you just played him as a one technique, you know, 196 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: just to kind of plug things up in the middle, 197 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: he can at least do that for you right now. 198 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting when you look at the Quinn 199 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: Williams trade and the assets the Jets got in return, 200 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: and you compare what Dallas did recently in terms of 201 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: ship in Michaeh. Parson's the Green Bay. 202 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: Well, look, i mean Quinn was the third pick in 203 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 2: the draft, okay, and here you are. I mean, I'm 204 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: a little lost, but maybe it's six years now, Eric, 205 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: I forget exact. 206 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: Seventh do NFL season now, So. 207 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: Okay, seventh, okay, but still you're getting a first in 208 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: a second for a player that has played a lot 209 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: of football, and it's been a good player, been a 210 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl player, has gotten double digit sacks, you know, 211 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: from the inside. Like he's had good seasons. We've all 212 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: seen him win his one on ones over and over 213 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: and over again. I mean, you leave him with one 214 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: on one against any Gardner center in the league, he's 215 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 2: probably gonna beat him. 216 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: It's just he's just that good. 217 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: And so that's like he's gonna have a chance to 218 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: do that, you know in Dallas right now. But honestly, 219 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: for a guy that's played that much football to still 220 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: get a one and a two for him, you know, 221 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: in succeeding years. I think that's I think that's great value. 222 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: For him, Baldy. 223 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: So I'm jumping around a little bit because there's so 224 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: much going on from a Jets perspective, Let's go back 225 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: to the cornerback position and that Cincinnati game, a Z 226 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: Thomas got his first professional start. He gave up the 227 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: touchdown to T Higgins. We all know that, but we 228 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: talked about it last week. Chase had nineteen argets and 229 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: was held to less than one hundred yards receiving. And 230 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: what do you think of his compete level? Also, what 231 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: do you think about his physical skill set? Because he's 232 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: stepping in the spotlight right now, and from a Jet's perspective, 233 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm awfully excited to watch this guy. I really like 234 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: his combination of the physicality, the size, and he just 235 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: plays with an edge and outside look. 236 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, I think 237 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 2: there was a reason why he was drafted where he 238 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: was and and he got a chance to play against 239 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: the elite of the elite, and you know Jamar Chase 240 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: and T Higgins, and he he didn't back down. 241 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: He competed. 242 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: He made a play on the sideline down the field, 243 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, he's just an interception, yep, And so like 244 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: I think there's something there. I mean, look, as much 245 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: as we all love sauce, you know, he had more 246 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: interceptions his rookie year than he had the next three 247 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: years combined, you know, And so that's just I mean, 248 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: you want your corners to be able to take the 249 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: ball away, get your on football is in right now. 250 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: And so. 251 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: Look, I thought that he was a value pick when 252 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: they got him in the third round this year. And 253 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: I think some of the guys like that with that 254 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 2: kind of skill, they just need to play. They they 255 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: need to practice. They got a head coach who's been 256 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: a cornerback in this league. He understands, you know, the 257 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: mindset you got to have, whether it's short term memory 258 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: or how to compete, or how to play without getting 259 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 2: your hands on guys, how to locate the ball. I mean, 260 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that you can get away 261 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: with in college because it's just a completely different game. 262 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: But I think at this level here, you want to 263 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: challenge receivers. You want to be able to see the field. 264 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: You want to be able to play man, you want 265 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: to play able to play zone. You want to be 266 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: able to challenge certain guys and you got to work 267 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: on your technique every single day. And I think Aaron 268 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: can help him grow with that position right now. 269 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. And we're we've reached 270 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: that point of the season and rookie year where he's 271 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: had a lot of practice. Ruck now he's going to 272 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: have the opportunity out in games. That's starting Sunday against 273 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and just follow that up with a 274 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: Thursday night visit to the Patriots and they'll be facing 275 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs and Drake May I'm frankly excited about that. 276 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about a veteran there on 277 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: the outside. Brandon Stevens struggled out of the gate. Yeah, 278 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: the last five games, five six games, he's been one 279 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: of the better corners in the National Football League. What 280 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: have you thought about the way he's gotten acclimated in 281 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: the system. 282 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: Well, I honestly, I remember when Rob Ryan was in 283 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: Baltimore with Brandon Stevens and he told me that this 284 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: guy's going to be a starter in this league. Like 285 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: he came in through the back door, he rose up, 286 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: become a good starter, was a starter on the number 287 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: one defensive football only two years ago in Baltimore. And 288 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: sometimes you just got to get acclimated. 289 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: You've got the. 290 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: Communication, the style of defense, you know, is the ball 291 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: coming out quick? Who you're playing against, Like, I think 292 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: you just have to learn how to play in a 293 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: different uniform. 294 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: And I think it took him a few weeks to 295 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: figure that out. 296 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: But you know, they've had incredible performances and back to 297 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: back games against Denver, against Carolina where they weren't giving 298 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: up big points, you know, and then against those receivers 299 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. I mean, you're gonna you're gonna give up 300 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: some plays there. But I think he's been really solid, 301 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: you know, since he's really settled in right now and 302 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: figured out who he's playing with and playing you know, 303 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: who's who's behind him in the whole communication level. 304 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: I feel like now he can really get into his game. 305 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: So the PDEs are on upswing from Steven's perspective. And 306 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: also he brings a physicality to the game, so he's 307 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: always been good against the run. Uh, what do you 308 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: make of the revamp secondary overall? So you're talking about 309 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: two rookies gonna start on Sunday? Got Melchi Moore, What 310 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: have you seen from him, because we've spoken a little 311 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: bit about A. Z Thomas. But the other guy in 312 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: the mix there is Jarvis Brownlee. You made that raid 313 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: earlier this season, and he's come on board and taken 314 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: over the nickel rains. 315 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't think it's one of the reasons why 316 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: they traded you know, Michael Carter. Yes, all what Jarvers 317 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: can do from the very first game. I mean he 318 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: was traded on a Tuesday and started, uh you know, 319 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: on a Sunday and was an impactful player, you know, 320 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: right away, and he just needed a chance to play. 321 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: He wasn't getting that, I guess in Tennessee. But anyways, 322 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: like that, they they liked him so much, and because 323 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: I think he's bigger than Michael Carter, like, I think 324 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: they liked his physicality and his size and his tackling ability. 325 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: They unloaded up, you know, a starter to Philadelphia. They 326 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: needed a nickel corner in the worst way. And so 327 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: I think there's that. And then Malachi really played well 328 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: in this last game, you know, I thought against Cincinnati, 329 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: and so uh, you know, rookies got to get on 330 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: the field these days. You got to get value for 331 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: these guys. He was drafted, you know, pretty high for 332 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: a reason, you know, but he played in a major 333 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: program at Alabama, and so I think that when you 334 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: watch the way Alabama safeties transitioned to the NFL. You know, 335 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: Nick Saban coaches coached the secondary when he was there. 336 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: He played a lot of NFL coverages at Alabama, a 337 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: lot of inverted cover two down in the box, like 338 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: the way we saw him play in the last game. 339 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: And so now I think he's just and it's a 340 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: position of need for the Jets. They need him to 341 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: be a solid player at that position. 342 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: Man. 343 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: So speaking of Alabama, let's go back to the offensive 344 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: side of the ball and talk about Matchi. He was 345 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia most recently, went there in the offseason after 346 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: a couple of years with the Houston Texans. He's not 347 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: a burner like an A d Mitchell. He's got some 348 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: short area quickness and he also has some returnability. And 349 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: if you're him, are you looking at this as hey, 350 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: this is a great opportunity because you know, the Jets 351 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: are trying out some different things in the offensive side 352 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: of the ball. At the receiver position. 353 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: He's mostly been a slot receiver. 354 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: Eric, you know, when he was in Houston and Philadelphia 355 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: really didn't get a chance to play much. He was 356 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 2: a returner. In Philadelphia, they have Devontae Smith, and they 357 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: have a J. 358 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: Brown. 359 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: They had you know, you know, dot Johan Dotson, So 360 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: they had their three guys. He just didn't get on 361 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: the field much, but you know, they used him as 362 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: a returner. But when he was in Houston when he 363 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: did get a chance to play, his best game was 364 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: against the Detroit Lions. Caught his one touchdown against the 365 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: Lions was you know, one of the few games that 366 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: he started. When he was in Houston. He came off 367 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: of a major knee injury. You know, at Alabama, but 368 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 2: you know, you play football at Alabama, you know they're 369 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: only going to get the very best of the best, 370 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: and just to get on the field there, you got 371 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 2: to compete. 372 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: So I think it's a fresh start. 373 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: He really didn't get a chance to play, like I said, 374 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: in Philly, but he could get a chance. They've been 375 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: looking for that position in New York for a long time. 376 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: They've had a lot of guys come through there to 377 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: play that slot position. They've drafted different guys. He might get, 378 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: you know, a chance to really play in that position 379 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: and maybe solidify that position. 380 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: Speaking of solidify, what does Harrison Phillips leadership mean to 381 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: this group right now the defensive side of the ball 382 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: after you make the trade of Quinn Williams to Dallas. 383 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: Because he's a guy seeing a little bit of everything 384 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. This is a young roster again, 385 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: they're seeing people exit, seeing some young players come in, 386 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: and he seems like just the perfect guy there in 387 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: the middle to be a stabilizing force on and off 388 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: the field. 389 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, if you think about Harrison, I mean he's playing 390 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: on a great defense last year on a team that 391 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: won fourteen games. Okay, they tied for the league lead 392 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: in turnovers takeaways last year with thirty three. He was 393 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: being coached by Brian Flores, who's a quality coach. He 394 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: went up against Aaron Glenn's teams and saw what Detroit 395 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: was doing. He's a veteran guy, He's been around. He 396 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: was you know, I saw him in training camp up 397 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: in Eden Prairie, Minnesota this summer and you know, kind 398 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: of having some discussions with him about some things, but 399 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: like he didn't think like his time was up there, 400 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden. He gets traded right before 401 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: they brought in Javon Hardgrave and Jonathan Allen. He knows 402 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: what it's like to get moved in the last second 403 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: like this. So he's seeing new guys come in, he's 404 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: seeing you know, solid guys leave, like he's seen this 405 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: before and what this can be all about. Like he's 406 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 2: got a new home here and he's playing good football 407 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: and he's a position of need, and so he's going 408 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: to tell some of these young guys that are in 409 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: there getting a chance to play, like, play yourself into 410 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: a second contract, play yourself into a role in his team. 411 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: He's sitting in that defensive line meeting room right now, 412 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: and he's the veteran of that room. And so you know, 413 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: Quinn's gone. You know, he's played enough this year through 414 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: the first eight games where he can have a leadership role. 415 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: And he's a leadership guy. 416 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: You know, he's very smart, he's educated, he understands the 417 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: league and the business. I think that it can be 418 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: a real good presence in that defensive line room with. 419 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: Him and another guy is going to get more opportunities 420 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: starting Sunday against the Browns is Juwan Briggs, a former 421 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown. And he's the guy who's really taking advantage 422 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: of his reps here in terms of his role coming 423 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: in there, being the rotational guy and providing some pressure 424 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. He's got a couple sacks. What now 425 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna have more on his plate and we'll have 426 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: to see if he can take advantage of it. 427 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think there's any question. 428 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 2: You know, you can only evaluate these guys when they 429 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: get a chance to play and they get on the field. 430 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: And so he's got a golden opportunity and a position 431 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: of need to go out there and secure himself a career, 432 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 2: not just this year, but going forward. One thing that 433 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 2: these moves that were made yesterday, Eric and look, but 434 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: the message is clear to anybody. I don't care if 435 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: you're Harrison Phillips or who you are. This is a 436 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: new regime that's evaluing all their these players going forward. 437 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: Who do we like, who do we keep? Who do 438 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 3: we make our next you know group? 439 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: Uh, you know, our next fraternity that we're gonna build 440 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: this team around. Everybody gets that opportunity to do it 441 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: right now. Depends on how they play, perform, prepare, you know, production, 442 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: all that stuff. Matters, and it's it's a new set 443 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: of eyes making all the evaluations everything that happened before 444 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 2: all the guys got drafted by you know, Joe Douglass 445 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: and all the other guys Like it's it's a new 446 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: set of eyes right now, and you get a chance 447 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 2: to build your career like honestly from this day going forward. 448 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and then we're gonna dive 449 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: into the Jets Browns matchup Sunday at Medelete Stadium. The 450 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the jewelry company, 451 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: The Shining Bright and Doing Good. Personalize your game day 452 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: and look by shopping spirited styles and so much more 453 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 1: at your local Kendra Scott store or Kendrascott dot com, 454 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: where a team spirit meets personal style. All right, Paul, 455 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: the message was clear this week from Aaron Glenn. I 456 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: sat with him in the studio and he said, make 457 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: no mistake about it. Yes, we made these trades because 458 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: we think this is best for our team and this 459 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: entire organization. But we are out there to win this 460 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: week and for every game remainer remaining here on our schedule. 461 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: So and you know, Jet fans are gonna get a 462 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: chance right at the Jet Life Stadium this weekend to 463 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: see what this not just a new team, but what 464 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: the news team. Can they come off their biggest win 465 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: obviously their only win the bit, but the best that 466 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: they played. Can they come off of that win where 467 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: they did everything well? The quarterback played his best game, 468 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: the line blocked their best the running backs had their 469 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: best day. Right the defense made two stops at the 470 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: end of the game. They have a bye week. They 471 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: make these blockbuster trades. The Jet fans want to see 472 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 2: what do we have going for forward? Do we have 473 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: something to look forward to? Can they stack like Cleveland is? 474 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: If you look at Cleveland right now, it's rookies everywhere. 475 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: Harrold Fannon is a rookie. Dylan Gabriel is a rookie. 476 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: You know the running back Queen Shawn Judkins is a rookie. 477 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: They got a rookie Mason Graham. They got a rookie 478 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: squaestionis or a middle linebacker. 479 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 3: It's it's rookie. 480 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: They got a rookie three way player that plays defense, offense, 481 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: and special teams. Like it's all rookies. Like they've turned 482 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: the page. They've you know, and and so they're still 483 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 2: led by Miles Garrett, you know, and all that kind 484 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: of stuff. But they're they're a team that's building for 485 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: the future. And they've just changed their offensive coordinator. Stefanski 486 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: just turned it over to his offense coordinator called the plays. 487 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: So we'll see how that goes. But they're a team 488 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: that is struggling, just like the Jets. But what the 489 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: Jets want to want, what Aaron wants is for this 490 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: not to be a distraction. Like we're building and game planning, 491 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: and we saw them as an offensive line the best 492 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 2: game of the year against Cincinnati. Now Cleveland's different. They're better. 493 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: They're much better upfront. Like you're gonna need a great game, 494 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: a great game plan to handle Miles Garrett, but they've 495 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: got other guys that can beat you. They're a pressman 496 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 2: coverage team. Jim Schwartz has a Super Bowl ring to 497 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 2: his name in Philadelphia. He's a good coordinator, really good coordinator. 498 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: And they're trying to do the same thing. They're trying 499 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: to stack wins, and so they've got one more than 500 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: the Jets. But this is a good a good This 501 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: gives a good contest at home to be able to 502 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: get your second win in a row and maybe build 503 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: something going forward. 504 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: Garrett can be a one man wrecking crew. And which 505 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: was so fascinating that last time out for Cleveland because 506 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: they had to buy Sunday as well. As they went 507 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: to New England. He sacked Drake May five times and 508 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: they still lost that game by about twenty. With that 509 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: being said, you mentioned in the Jets offensive line, and 510 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: they are building that foundation up front. Garrett, how much 511 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: movement do you anticipate from him on Sunday? And what 512 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: do you expect when he sees are my Membu? And 513 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: also and or I should say Olu Fashno. 514 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: Well, Justin I mean not that I want to bring 515 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: up past history, but Justin Field's first start in the 516 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: NFL was in Cleveland and Miles Garrett put him in 517 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: the graveyard a few times that day. So did Gjevian Clowney. 518 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. Like I think he was sacked 519 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: nine times. 520 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: Uh. 521 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: You know, Miles Garrett wants to go test. I know him, 522 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: I know his mentality. He's gonna line up over you know, Olu, 523 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: He's gonna line up over Membu. He's gonna test both 524 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 2: of them, and then you know last week, look he 525 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: got five sacks. It's five sacks. 526 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: But it wasn't game changing type plays. 527 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: Eric. 528 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 2: They still overcame the sacks, the loss of yardage. They 529 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: didn't turn the ball over, you know, and they were 530 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: still able to hit their their big plays. 531 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: Uh you know. But so he's gonna make plays, he 532 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: just is. 533 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: It's good for all ofer to go up against him, 534 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: and I like to see him go up there one 535 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: on one, like, yes, you can chip them, you can slide, 536 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: there's things you can do. But I also want to 537 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: see both those guys line up on the league's best 538 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: and see what that looks like and feels like, you know, 539 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: when you've got to protect your quarterback. Now, Justin can 540 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: get out of harm's way. You know, if you get 541 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: beat quickly, he can rescue the play. 542 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: But I'd like to see. 543 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: These guys go up there and feel his punch and 544 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: see what that's like, see what the best is like. 545 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: Because honestly, as you're a young player and you block, 546 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: you know a guy like Miles Garrett, just the way 547 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 2: Will Campbell did on Sunday on a couple of occasions, 548 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: you come out of there's feeling better about yourself and 549 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 2: about your ability. It's a good measuring stick for these 550 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: young guys. 551 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. And the Jets said great 552 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: balance against the Bengals. This is a totally different challenge, 553 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: but it's going to be fun to see what the 554 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: Jets offense looks like against one of the better defenses 555 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, forget about the record. I 556 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: know they're two and six. This Cleveland defense is top 557 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: five by any measure if you really look at them. 558 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: Game plan wise, the Jets got that balance going with 559 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: the rush attack and the passing attack against Cincinnati, nine 560 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: different pass catchers and all Garrett Wilson anticipates Aaron Glenn 561 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: anticipates Garret Wilson to be back in practice this week. 562 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: We'll have to see if he's out there on the 563 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: field on Sunday. With all that being said, and you 564 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: mentioned Schwartz before, what should the offensive game plan be 565 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: against this Cleveland defense. 566 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: Well, I think you've got to start with, you know, 567 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: emphasizing the run in different types of runs. It could 568 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: be fly sweeps like we saw Isaiah Williams in the 569 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: last game against Cincinnati for eighteen yards. It could be 570 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 2: different things with you know Adams or with Bresee it 571 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: could be with two tight ends, it could be spread 572 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: him out and try to get you know, lanes winning inside. 573 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 2: You got to get s questions you're blocked. He's one 574 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: of those linebackers that if you don't block him, he'll 575 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: make every tackle, and so you know that's that's gonna 576 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 2: be paramount to be able to get. 577 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: Up to him. 578 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 2: But you know, Schwartzey plays a lot of man coverage, 579 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: you know, and so you know, sometimes the quarterback, if 580 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: he scrambles and the guys are down the field playing man, 581 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: you could get some big running lanes. 582 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: So it'll be. 583 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: Interesting to see if Schwartzy decides to play more zone 584 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: to keep more eyeballs on justin in case he does 585 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: break the pocket and scramble, or if he stays in 586 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: his mand demanded schemes, because that can vary depending on 587 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: who the quarterback is defense. 588 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to oversimplify things here at Baldy, but 589 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: when I look at this Cleveland offense, they started with 590 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: Joe Flackle at the beginning of the year, they've gone 591 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: to Dylan Gabriel. They've struggled to throw the football. You 592 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: mentioned Judkins before, for me, what I'm circling as far 593 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: as this matchup is concerned. What does the Jets rush 594 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: defense look like in week one minus Quinn Williams and 595 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: can they take away junkins. 596 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: I think jud Kinds are really good back is really 597 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: good back. Maybe he's had some big runs. And Dylan 598 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: Sampson is the third down back. He's the other rookie 599 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: right now, but he came out of Tennessee, I think. 600 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, they played both rookie backs. Harold Fanning is 601 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: a really elusive tight end. People thought they might trade 602 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: in Djoku because he's been that good. But look, Dylan 603 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: Gabriel's left handed. They don't see left handed quarterbacks in 604 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: the sleep. You know, Like he's a left hander, so 605 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: you know you want to get your pressure. 606 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: From the other side. 607 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: But you know, the interior of this offensive line, you know, Buttonio, Wyatt, Teller, 608 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: po Chick. They're as good as any three interior linemen 609 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: in this whole league. Then they've been like that. They 610 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: can cut you up, carve you up in a lot 611 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: of different ways, and so your fun mentals, your techniques 612 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: are paramount. They love to pull Potonio in the power 613 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: Run game. He's excellent at it. And then Judkins is 614 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: just a patient runner that's got power and explosiveness, and 615 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: so he's a difficult guy to get to the ground. 616 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: He breaks a lot of tackles. Yeah, they've got to 617 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: work cut out because of their foundation. And we'll see 618 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: they got a new offensive coordinator, we'll see. But that's 619 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: typically been the foundation to Stefanski's team is to really 620 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: be able to run the ball effectively. I don't believe 621 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: that their receivers, you know, whether it's Tillman or Judy, like, 622 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: I just don't think they're great players, you know. 623 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: So I think that you know, they throw to the 624 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: tight ends and they throw to the backs. 625 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: Right now, Well, the big picture, let's end right there. 626 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: You mentioned foundation. The Jets have five first round picks 627 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven, two in 628 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, three in twenty twenty seven. You could 629 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: have four picks in the top fifty next April. But 630 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: everybody within these walls, our focus remains focused on Sunday 631 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: as far as the players and the coaching staff are concerned. Well, 632 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: the personnel department continues to do their job as far 633 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: as trying to improve this roster each and every day. 634 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean the winning teams in this business 635 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: that win consistently, they draft and they develop players. Okay, 636 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: they developed their own and when they become good players, 637 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: they reward them with second contracts. That's the foundation of 638 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: winning teams. That's what Kansas City has done. That's what 639 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: Buffalo has done. That's what the Eagles are doing. And 640 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: they sprinkle in the trades and free agency to address 641 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: weaknesses when they miss on a pick or they miss 642 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: on a player, and it's going to happen. But forget 643 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: about all that right now. It's still about developing young players. 644 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: And the Jets are full of young players. We've mentioned 645 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: a bunch of them here today. I think Justin Fields 646 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: still wants to prove that he could be a starting 647 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: quarterback if he can play and pick up where he 648 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: left off against Cincinnati, against this defense, and make good decisions, 649 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: take care of the football like he has been doing 650 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 2: all year, make the throws that are there, you know, 651 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: not be hesitant to pull the trigger. Play with no fear, 652 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: like he can still have a future wherever it might be. 653 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: It might just still be in New Yorks, like he's 654 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: still playing for that deal, and so we saw bres 655 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: Hall have one of his best games ever. You know, 656 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: he still wants to show to the world that he's 657 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: a quality back and be mentioned in that realm. And 658 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: so it's still about developing these guys. Tipman is still 659 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: developing at bright guard. You know You've got you know, 660 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: Simpson is still developing with that left side. And so 661 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: I want to see what Maca Taylor you know, does 662 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: here going forward. I mean, caught his first touchdown pass 663 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: against Cincinnati. I want to see more of those. 664 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: Baldy a lot to play for. It's gonna be fun 665 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: watching this team not only Sunday, but the following Thursday 666 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: as they go and face the New England Patriots. But 667 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: great job today breaking it all down. It's been an 668 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: eventful week for the Green and White. 669 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: It has been, and there's a lot of changes. But 670 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 2: I like Aaron Glenn's approach right now. They're not giving 671 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: up on the season. It's not over. It's about because honestly, 672 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: he wants to be here for a long time. Like 673 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: draft status, they've got all their picks. They need to 674 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: win as many games as they can. They have to 675 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: show us the fans and his team and the regime 676 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: that they're all about developing and improving and playing the 677 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: best football, you know, as we go into November here 678 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: going forward. 679 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: Well said buddy. We'll see you next week. 680 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: Okay, buddy. Thanks Eric,