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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain drops on today's episode Reality

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Speaker 1: with the King, I got my girl Kate Casey in

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Speaker 2: Hi, Kody, how are you you look?

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Speaker 1: Ravashing? As always on this mid morning.

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Speaker 2: Real rab Machine Monday morning. Yeah, on the heels of

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Speaker 2: the Golden Globes. Did you watch?

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Speaker 1: I listened because you know, oh, this is like our job,

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Speaker 1: and people don't understand that, which is why there's people

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Speaker 1: who start podcasts and then months later they disappear. Because

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Speaker 1: this is a real job. So I was actually watching

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Speaker 1: Potomac and Maritorn Madison to get ready for the day.

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Speaker 1: But I did see clips of the Go Globes and

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Speaker 1: most importantly, I saw Nikki Glazer's opening monologue. I like

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Speaker 1: her a lot.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I like her too. She's really really funny.

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Speaker 2: I kept thinking, how many how many people sitting in

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Speaker 2: the audience are have been convinced by their agents that

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Speaker 2: they're going to win tonight, and I have a whole

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Speaker 2: speech prepared, and their agents really lied to them, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, well.

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Speaker 1: That's all. I thought. It was funny that Tianna Taylor

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Speaker 1: was like, I wasn't going to write a speech. The

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Speaker 1: big with me is this, I'm kind of superstitious, kind

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Speaker 1: of I'm trying to like get away from my you know,

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Speaker 1: what I learned in my childhood. But I feel like

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Speaker 1: you and IK would never write a speech because I

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Speaker 1: think we are great at thinking on the spot and

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Speaker 1: speaking on the spot that I just I would wing

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Speaker 1: it and it'll be like a great.

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Speaker 2: Speed and it would be more authentic exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: But you know the problem in Hollywood is God forbid,

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Speaker 1: you forgot to mention the agent, the director, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: casting producer, you know what I mean. They'll they'll take

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Speaker 1: it personally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so will your husband and your children, right

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Speaker 2: in your case, like your partner and your nieces and

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Speaker 2: your nephews and your parents and everybody you work with

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Speaker 2: in the last twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my nice siblings.

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Speaker 2: And that's a problem too with all the siblings, because

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Speaker 2: there's going to be one or two that pop in

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Speaker 2: your head first and then you know, number seven is

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Speaker 2: like I always thought you hated me, and then you

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Speaker 2: have to go to like group there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would have like the Angie k scroll

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Speaker 1: from the coblic City of People and just like breathe

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Speaker 2: By the way, that scene the finale where they're doing

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Speaker 2: the play, what did you think of it? I thought

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Speaker 2: it was like a sideways ambush, But then I thought

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Speaker 2: the plate of the the plight of the people who

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Speaker 2: make this show is they talk in circles, So how

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Speaker 2: do you actually get them to have any sort of

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Speaker 2: introspection or conflict resolution? If this is what you have

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Speaker 2: to do, that's wild because it looked like sorority sisters

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Speaker 2: who were wasted who put on a play, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Okay, your takes are so hilarious.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how could you take that seriously? If you're

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Speaker 2: sitting there and they're all they're weeping, I would be like,

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Speaker 1: I would get that part either, like this self sort

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Speaker 1: of like introspection. I didn't understand Lisa crying about being commentarialistic.

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Speaker 1: I was completely it.

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Speaker 2: Was like, have you met yourself? Like today's Tuesday? What

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Speaker 1: Precisely? And the other thing too, I might add, is

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Speaker 1: the fact that it's not the first time someone has

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Speaker 2: But maybe they all felt like, oh, this is what

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, honey.

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Speaker 2: We know that's like a knife to the heart.

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Speaker 1: We know that it's the producers who told the actors

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, okay, here's the deal on this one,

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Speaker 2: and you like rip the band aid off, like yeah,

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Speaker 2: a little harder. But you know, this isn't Sheila who

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Speaker 2: lives in Kansas. This is somebody who works back at

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Speaker 1: Oh one. But that's what I was like, Look, I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled to talk to you about a brand new show

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Speaker 1: because I do feel like, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: something else that's in the docu series space. Netflix is

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Speaker 1: in the business of showcasing us reality. You know, we

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Speaker 1: have the selling Sunset, this selling the ELC selling New York.

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Speaker 1: We got only Manhattan. So there are They're trying to

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Speaker 1: really get into the docu space. And Kay Casey, they

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Speaker 1: have a brand new show, Members Only Palm Beach. And

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Speaker 1: within the first five seconds of the show, I said,

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Speaker 1: it's only one person. That's only one person I can

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Speaker 1: talk to about the show. Your name immediately came to mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I can only talk to about this because

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Speaker 1: I know my girl is going to give it to

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Speaker 1: me straight, no chasing like you always do the rain drops.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't heard about it, it's called Members Only

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Speaker 1: Palm Beach is Netflix's new docuserie starring affluent social life

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Speaker 1: featured in Palm Beach, Marlago West Palm Beach. It stars

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Speaker 1: Hillary is A, Taja, Taja.

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Speaker 2: Roslin, Maria and Gail I Jail.

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Speaker 1: If you have time to look through seven hundred pages, right, So, Kate,

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Speaker 1: this show is wild and we just have to get

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Speaker 1: right into it. And it's eight episodes, a pure mess. Kate,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts of Members Only Palm Beach Because

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Speaker 1: these are affluent women who are living in a society

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Speaker 1: that is very red state, very Republican. Mar Logo is

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Speaker 1: the seventh character on the show for sure, Ronald Trump

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Speaker 2: Yep. Well, first of all, I love a story about classism.

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Speaker 2: lot of people watch. Most people watch this between Christmas

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Speaker 2: be because it is just complete froth. It's not anything

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Speaker 2: want to know how people live who seemingly have a

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Speaker 2: a perfect spot. The hiccup is that Palm Beach island

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Speaker 2: where the billionaires, but billionaires live no one can film there.

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Speaker 1: You're out of your mind, but explain that to Okay,

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Speaker 1: So if Palm Beach Island, so two things I have

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Speaker 2: Any permit, Like, I don't care. If you are you know,

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Speaker 2: HBO Max and you're going to make a documentary about

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Speaker 2: The people who live on Palm Beach Island are the

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Speaker 2: They probably have a separate made quarters, and they never

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Speaker 2: but most importantly have the most social currency. And now,

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Speaker 2: while money may be abundant down there, the truth is

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Speaker 2: So I'm talking about influence and reputation and club memberships

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Speaker 2: and invitations. They are treated as the real currency of status,

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Speaker 2: aren't just economic, but cultural and social. In other words,

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Speaker 2: privilege must be recognized by peers to really count. So

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Speaker 2: they're like cheesebags from Philly, like it is.

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Speaker 1: What it is.

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Speaker 2: They are not people who like have this pedigree and

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Speaker 2: they worked to Goldman Sachs and they, you know, go

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Speaker 2: to Moustique. You in theory are watching this because you

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Speaker 2: want to see wealth versus social currency and these hierarchies.

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Speaker 2: But it's a bunch of people that are transplants. Now.

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Speaker 2: During COVID, I don't even remember this, but I was

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Speaker 2: trying to pitch a show, which was, in retrospect, the

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Speaker 2: dumbest plate time to ever pitch a show. But I

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Speaker 2: Okay, now here's what you need to know about Roslin.

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Speaker 2: No, I have people to do it for me, like

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Speaker 2: think she and her husband do pretty well and they've

432
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 2: got young kids. So there's like a total disconnect because

433
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: you've got someone like Gail who has the worst wig

434
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: that I've ever and I'm not somebody who pays attention

435
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: to wigs. So if I if I notice it, it's bad,

436
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yeah, it's like I never

437
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 2: know who's like high at a party, Like that's just

438
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: not my lane, that's not my wheelhouse. I also don't

439
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: pay attention to wiggs. If it's that bad, it's that bad.

440
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: For that, I salute her. And she's somebody who probably

441
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 2: had money twenty five years ago, but her husband passed

442
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: away and now she's an identity crisis. So she's probably

443
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: pissed at this young girl. Younger girl. She's probably like

444
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: thirties right, with young children, gorgeous body, yes, and she

445
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 2: and her husband are probably gonna, like, you know, make

446
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: twice as much, right, and she's at a real crisis

447
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 2: at her life. Like I'm not accepting now. The story

448
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: about Gayla is that she got kicked out of mar

449
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: Alago one time, or she tried to talk to Donald Trump.

450
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: Apparently it was like hey remember me, and I think

451
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: security was like, get this lunatic out of here.

452
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: And then did you see but she wants to.

453
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: Go back if I was kicked out of a party.

454
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. If I was kicked out

455
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: a party, I don't want to go back.

456
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: No. Never, never. Now there is a bottled that circulating online.

457
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's Ai. But Gail who

458
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: knows of her with Donald Trump? He did write her

459
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: a letter.

460
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: Probably maybe like fifteen years ago, right.

461
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: Like this is years ago. But again, what we know

462
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump allegedly is he's a it's a boys club,

463
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: so he may have known her husband.

464
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: Probably her husband, yeah right, probably, yeah, thats.

465
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's sort of like her proxy to him.

466
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: But at the Netflix premiere party of this show, have

467
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,239
Speaker 1: you seen his footage of security wrapping Gail removing her

468
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: from the party.

469
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: Well, Gail, I think maybe she just like doesn't know

470
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: how to like pedal a break, you know what I mean.

471
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: You know somebody who goes to the party and you're like, Okay,

472
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: let's have a glass of wine and They're like, I'm

473
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: on glassy. I don't know. I think she just takes

474
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: it too far.

475
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: Oh, it takes a tumble.

476
00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: If you know she's rhythmic gymnastics expert. She throws a

477
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 2: couple of back off a bench. How do you fall

478
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: off a bench? Remember she fell off the bench. And

479
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 2: I love a wag askew. That's my favorite.

480
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, Caren and Huger Potomac. So the thing that I

481
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: thought was so interesting was this was, like, to me,

482
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: one of the first reality shows that really honed in

483
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: all like you said, classism, hierarchy, Dale and Rosenland sort

484
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: of took Romina under their ring. Not that you give

485
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: us a backstory and they tell me, but they're taking.

486
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: Her under her wing. Let's be honest, Like if I

487
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: if I'm at a table with them and we're all

488
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: I would go, You guys took her under your wing

489
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: because you wanted to demeanor. You wanted to make yourself

490
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: feel better. You shouldn't dress that way. You look like

491
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: a whore. I mean, didn't say that, but if that's

492
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: what they're intimating, right, like, you're no cluss. They wanted

493
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: to feel better about themselves and the way that they

494
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: were so weird with each other, like I love you.

495
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're passing the torch? What what torch

496
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: are you talking about? It's like delusion. But the way

497
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: they were talking to her was so demeaning.

498
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah no, and I what was so fascinating to me

499
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: was how Romina sort of tried to listen and understand it,

500
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: but they kept beating her up and she broke down.

501
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: She cried, She yelled at Gail, your wig is bad,

502
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: you know. And then what was so interesting to me

503
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: is the sort of love affair that Rosalind and Gail

504
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: have towards each other. What do you make of that?

505
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: Because Roll is at Gail like like you are lucky

506
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: to be in her world. But people Hillary said Gail

507
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: is full of shit, and she got and that her

508
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: Marologual membership is not on pause because they'll do pauses.

509
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: I think it's like Housewives, where you've got a new

510
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: person on the show and there's someone who is kind

511
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 2: of pulled them aside and gone like, just you know,

512
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: if you want to have success on the show, you know,

513
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: just hang with me, like I know the ropes. I'm

514
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: best friends with everybody. And then they find out at

515
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: the end of the season that actually the producers hate

516
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: that person and so does the audience. I think it

517
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: was like that. I think she thought, well, according to Hillary,

518
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: she's like persona non gratta like all over town. So

519
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: maybe she felt like, I've got a life raft here.

520
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: If I cling onto this, then like I'll have some

521
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: ability to I don't know, like this secures me the

522
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: opportunity to be on the show. It for the season,

523
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: if not for three more. I don't know. Maybe she's

524
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: like led her to believe that she's like really tight

525
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: with the producers. I find a lot of reality stars

526
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: kind of do that, especially with first season, Like when

527
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: you have an ensemble show, it's like, oh, you know,

528
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: this was actually my idea for the show, and you know,

529
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm really close, and then you find out later that

530
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: that's not even remotely true. Yeah, and I have to

531
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: tell you, Like, there's a guy on TikTok. His name

532
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: is like the elder Annial, and he started posting that

533
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: he had a show that he was creating in Palm

534
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: Beach and that uh, Sue Bell, who's the older woman.

535
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: Who you have to describe baby Obsessed.

536
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Said he had Sue Bell on his show and then

537
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: he was frustrated because the net whatever network didn't take

538
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: that show. So I know three different projects in Palm

539
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: Beach now. So there's Snowbirds, which was Purveyors of Pop,

540
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: which was Bravo didn't want. Then we have this show,

541
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: and then there was this other one with his guy Joey,

542
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: and he said Sue Bell was a part of his

543
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: and he said, we just couldn't get interest. Then it

544
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: was like two days later he said, guess what, because

545
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: of the success of the Netflix show, we're back on board.

546
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh they are.

547
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: He said, there are two companies that now want to

548
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: make the show. But he said the caveat is that

549
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: they probably can't have Sue Bell because she's got a

550
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: conflict with Netflix. So my point is, I think all

551
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: of these women who are thirst traps are all kind

552
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: of like at lunch together Sherry notes, trying to get

553
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: in roads, and they're all completely unaware of how much

554
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: the other person knows. And they are all these like

555
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: production companies there sniffing around. One could maybe believe that

556
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: Gail had some sort of power if you had like

557
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: thick glasses on and hearing needs. And just to me,

558
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: it's obvious, like what that I know somebody. I know

559
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: somebody who worked on one of those projects, and they

560
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: said that. She said that Gail is completely like just

561
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: like bananas, just bananas, like not doesn't live on our planet,

562
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: like I'm a big deal, like I'm a superstar. Like

563
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: she thinks she should be on the cover of Town

564
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: and Country, which for reality shows is perfection. But if

565
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: we were in real life, we with throat punch her.

566
00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 2: But great of course. So I think, yeah, the unsophisticated

567
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: person who's trying to work their way up the ladder

568
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: may have for three seconds gone, that's the life raft.

569
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: I've got to like hang myself onto that one because

570
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: that's what's going to take me places.

571
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: So that makes sense why Roslyn feels like she has

572
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: this allegiance towards her, because when you think about Taja

573
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: and Maria, I really was here for Maria and Romina's friendship. Yeah,

574
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: I like Romina, not Romina. Maria reminds me of a

575
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: mob life totally. You know, she gets a little bit

576
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: of renee Gano.

577
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: Like definitely, I feel like she could beat somebody up.

578
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: She could absolutely take someone down. She's like UFC adjacent.

579
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: And also, I love a midlife DJ now some on

580
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: social media who are in that space, or like she

581
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: uses beginner's equipment, and I say, gives a shit because

582
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: my favorite was when Melissa Gorgo wanted to be a

583
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: pop star at age like thirty five. So I love

584
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: a midlife DJ now. Of course, like I said, the

585
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: classes and issues are like, she doesn't DJ at mar

586
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: A Lago, okay, Like, so I think they're trying to say,

587
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: like she DJs at like a Jamba juice outside, you know,

588
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: like a stre party, which kind of would make her

589
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: even better. But when she crawled across the floor on

590
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: the song after they had, you know, said to Romina,

591
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: you have to be careful about the way that you

592
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: dress when we know these parties that they're going to

593
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: are not actually on Palm Beach Island. They're like in

594
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: a strip mall in a neighboring town.

595
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: So explain that to me, because obviously, listen, the a

596
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: story across all eight episodes is the fact that what

597
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: you said earlier is the fact that everybody wants to

598
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: belong to mar Alago, which is on Palm Beach Island.

599
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: Correct, No, but it's it's like you could probably see

600
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: it from Palm Beach Island. It's like across the water.

601
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: Got it?

602
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: But like that's just the status be like for lack

603
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: of and this is a real weak example, but like

604
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: back in the day, like soho house, Remember it was

605
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: like Okay, I don't know how I need to get there,

606
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: but I gotta go there because you know, if I'm

607
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: seen there, that means like I'm super sophisticated, I'm high,

608
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: like super high in the social ladder.

609
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: And there's membership fees associated.

610
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean these I mean it's bananas. It's

611
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: like hundreds of thousands of dollars for these clubs. Okay,

612
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: So then my friend was visiting and her dad, excuse me,

613
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: my friend's dad was visiting and he lives in a

614
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: penhouse on Palm Beach. No is it West Palm Beach, No,

615
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: it's Palm Beach, Palm Beach Island. Yeah, one of them.

616
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: But I go, okay, give me the lowdown, like what's up?

617
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: And he said the same thing. He goes, people will

618
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: lose their minds. They're only here for a couple of months,

619
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: because he's there for a couple like in the nice months.

620
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: But he's like, there are people who will come here

621
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: just to like find somebody. Like the people will come

622
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: to try to like snag themselves like a like a

623
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: wealthy woman or a wealthy man just to like saddle up.

624
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: Like the crazies will come out on top of like

625
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: the people that are the billionaires and the super connected.

626
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: Then you have the tryhards that are coming there to

627
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: kind of like snag somebody. So you have all levels

628
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: of social situations and status and all kinds of different people.

629
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: So that's what makes it such a wildly fascinating id

630
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: like like Art Buzzel in Miami, Right, Yeah, you're the

631
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: people that are actually buying like a acasso, and then

632
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: you have the people who are wearing like plastic dresses

633
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: and you know, got an uber and are hoping that

634
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: they meet like an oligarch. Like that's fascinating, right, Like

635
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: that's that's good, that's good time to watch.

636
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: This is why this show is interesting because I think listen,

637
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to the raw hospals parks, we kind

638
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: of know how the sausage is made. And every city,

639
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: yes is different, but tonally it's we know what we're

640
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: getting watching it, right, And they're so self aware that

641
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: they're all jockeying for position, and they're all trying to

642
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: like be a carbon copy of the Queen Bee on

643
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: the various shows and blah blah blah, because it's sort

644
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: of like the game of Thrones on Housewives, because you

645
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: can be a one season person and lose her and

646
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: get fired and they bringing on somebody else whereas what's

647
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: interesting about Members Only Palm Beach is the fact that

648
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: we are in the world that we hear about and

649
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room is this and I could

650
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: not wait to talk to you about it. We know

651
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: that on Housewives, for example, it's considered faux paul for

652
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: a housewife to be a Donald Trump supporter or even

653
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: to admit that she's a Republican. Right. What's interesting about

654
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: Members Only Palm Beach is they lean into those two

655
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: things that housewives would never do, despite who they follow

656
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: on that's true. Yeah, do you think I thought that

657
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: was a very interesting choice for Netflix to say, we're

658
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: seeing over two hundred countries. This man is the president

659
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: of the United States, so there are people who follow

660
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: him on social media and it digit do voted for him.

661
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: This is a world that Bravo, in my opinion, would

662
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: never tap into because of the PC nature of the show.

663
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: Do you think it was smart for Netflix and lean

664
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: into it because it provides something globally?

665
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: It was like top top ten, so obviously it resonated.

666
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: But I think what people, I think that the best

667
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: way to sum it up is on Housewives, you have

668
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: like the friend of who's like a wacky character. It's

669
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: a show of all wacky side characters, like each person is.

670
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be enough to be maybe like cast and

671
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: a real And actually I read that Maria tried to

672
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: be on Real Housewives of New York like years.

673
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: Ago, so I can see that.

674
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 2: It's it's like the person who's like the side character

675
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: on the Housewives. It's just it's just show filled with them.

676
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: So it's like enormously funny because they're trying so hard

677
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: to work their way into a system that will never

678
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: accept them. There's no I mean, people who have a

679
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 2: lot of money would never be accepted into social circles

680
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: in Palm Beach. So the the idea of these like

681
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: transplants who are like cheesy trying to make their way

682
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: when it's like so obvious to the audience, like you

683
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: will never be accepted. What are you doing? But their tenacity.

684
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta respect the hustle.

685
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh and and and that's what it is to me.

686
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: They're all hustlers. And to me, I feel like Sue

687
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: Bell is like the only real deal.

688
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, yes, yes, uh huh okay, She's like

689
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: personifies Palm Beach. It would kind of be like me

690
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: doing a show about me and a group of my

691
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: friends with kids trying to go to New York to

692
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: be like Eileen Ford models, you know what I mean,

693
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: where you're like everybody be like girl, give it up,

694
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like that, and that's

695
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: what's so funny.

696
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: And the thing about Sue Baille, did you know this

697
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: Kate that she's a former fashion model.

698
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: She was a former fashion model. Yeah, and she was

699
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: married up until recently. I think he passed away. But literally,

700
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: what I have heard is like she knows everybody. But

701
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: like I said, this guy says that she was supposed

702
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: to be part of his show, but now she's obligated,

703
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: probably because contractually obligated with Netflix now.

704
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: Which is interesting because she's not main cast.

705
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: No. But then Hillary did an interview apparently where she

706
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: said Sue is like eighty and the and the filming

707
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: is really hard for her. Or actually, when I heard that,

708
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: I thought, is she trying to sabotage her by putting

709
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: that out in the world, like she doesn't like her getting.

710
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: So we have to talk about Hillary. So what I

711
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: gathered is, like you said, in New York And it's

712
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: funny that Hillary and Jill zerre a our friends because Hillary,

713
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: to me is like the Jill zeron of the show,

714
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: you know how like Jill Zer to the full ownership

715
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: of like I'm the queen bee of New York City.

716
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: New York City is my playground. I'm going to take

717
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: bethany another you know, transplant and introduce her to my

718
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: social circle. And Jill Zerry even today, after not being

719
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: on the show for MENI meany meany many years, she

720
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: still believes that when it comes to New York City,

721
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: especially Upper East Side, that she is the queen Bee

722
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: and that she's been doing this for years. Hillary has

723
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: that personality when it comes to that, though. Do you

724
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: buy that Hillary is presenting herself to be as authentic

725
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: as she proclaims to be.

726
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: Oh, I think she's totally authentically herself. I think she

727
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 2: and jail have a similar personality. Probably probably had moms

728
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 2: that were kind of like, this is why it is,

729
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: and you know, domineering and you know you got to

730
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: do this. And I think they probably are like that

731
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: with their friends. What do you mean you're going to

732
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: do that? And you have to go on vacation here

733
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: and this is the hotel that you stay at. I

734
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: think she's totally authentically herself. What I find is so

735
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: funny again is that they all are actually from Philadelphia.

736
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: They didn't like a lot of them didn't even have crossover.

737
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: They all just happened to be from Philadelphia. The five

738
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: main cast members, almost all of them. Hillary is from Philadelphia,

739
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: born and raised in Philadelphia. That's what I'm telling you.

740
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: They're all fish out of water. I love it so

741
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: so anyway, she's been Hilary's been there for I think

742
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 2: twenty one seasons or something. By the way, married five

743
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: times A love a woman who's had a lot of marriages.

744
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: Love it.

745
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: Oh that tells me everything I need to know. I

746
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: do love though the relationship she has with her son.

747
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: I think despite all of that, he seems to be

748
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: like a well rounded young man.

749
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but five times, five times.

750
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about her husband?

751
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: I mean, he's fine. He's like a dud, you know

752
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: what I mean. But if she's that kind of personality,

753
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: she needs a dud.

754
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: She one thousand. I think. Yeah, after the fourth husband,

755
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: she realized I need somebody that doesn't want the spotlight.

756
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: It's all about me. Doesn't really have a job, you

757
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like kind of me.

758
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: I think she tested on Heather Heather's podcast that I

759
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: think he was like the concierge at a hotel.

760
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: It was Yes, that's how they met.

761
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: My mom always said, you can only have one star

762
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: of the show, and that is you know, wherever, whatever

763
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: it may be. So let's say your husband is a teacher,

764
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: you go to the teacher's event, he's the star of

765
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: the show. But then when you go to the roller

766
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: skating rink and you're the roller skating star, you're the

767
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: star of the show. I think Hillary is the star

768
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: of the show in her life with that, like in

769
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: her marriage, every day of the week. And I think

770
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: he's totally fine with it.

771
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't give a shit, doesn't care at all. He likes cooking.

772
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, A funny thing that happened when I interviewed Roslin

773
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: was she had just started to see the episodes, so

774
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: I had seen the episodes before, but it was like

775
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: the day before she had binged the entire She said,

776
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: I stayed in bed and I watched all eight at

777
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: eight episodes. So she was in that frantic mode which

778
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: you go through every day of your life, where you're

779
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: getting calls from yes, the cast members like holy shit,

780
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: like what why did you include that? That's not what

781
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: I meant. So I grabbed her right that moment. So

782
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: she was in that frantic period. But then she goes,

783
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: I really like the way I look on TV and

784
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: that I was like, you're made for TV. That confidence

785
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: should propel you through it because this is not going

786
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: to be easy for anybody to endure the comments, you know,

787
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: the attention. But if she could in the chaosco I

788
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: gotta tell you I look great on TV. I was like,

789
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: this is this is your life, this is it, this

790
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: is it for you.

791
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: That's why listen. As a seasoned producer, that's why my

792
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: watch this show. I gravitated towards more of her because

793
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, there is something special about her. I think

794
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: she's very likable, very likable. I think she means everything

795
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: that comes out of her mouth. I think she's so

796
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: aloof two things that she has a leaf, you know

797
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: what I mean? I got that from her. She honestly

798
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: was somebody that I was like, great casting her, and look,

799
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: I like Hillary, you know what I mean, I like

800
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: a boss woman. I think that's good to watch now

801
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: before I'll let you go.

802
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: But by the way, the scene where that they're in

803
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: like West Palm Beach and they're at the you know,

804
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: uh was it? Taja and Roslin are waiting for Hillary

805
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: to arrive such a ball or move to go to

806
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: show up like forty minutes. That's like I need to

807
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: remember remind you I'm more important. And then when I

808
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: get there, I'm also gonna remind you I work and

809
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: you don't. You just sit around all day and like

810
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: do AEROBICX. Like that to me was like put that

811
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: in a college course. Unbelievable.

812
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: So I really Ca'm gonna mention the cars he rolled

813
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: up in and the outfit she was wearing.

814
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Yeah, that is why you need Hillary on

815
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: that show. I was like, oh my god, this is

816
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: so well played because she probably was around the corner.

817
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: She was just waiting like I'm gonna wait. Yeah. One time,

818
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: Dan Dan, my husband had a business like when he

819
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: was in college, and he goes into this investor meeting

820
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: and they meet. He gets to the with his colleagues

821
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: to the office and it was like two hours. They

822
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: made him sit in in the uh in like the

823
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: lobby two hours and then they go into the meeting

824
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: and the guy is all the way in the corner.

825
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: There's no furniture in the office. Really, the desk is

826
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: all the way in the corner, and their stacks of cash.

827
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: What uh huh like wait wait physical cash. Yeah.

828
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: Anyway, it was like a meeting about like potential investment.

829
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: And now he looks back at he's like, what like

830
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 2: that is like a trip and that person who who

831
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: I will tell you offline who it was, is the

832
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: subject of a documentary out in the world. But that

833
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: was like one of their like moves is like to

834
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: keep the people waiting in the lobby to remind you

835
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: you wait for me. So if somebody that's my advice

836
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: to you, if you want to see diabolical, arrange a

837
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: meeting and make somebody wait for a while. But that's

838
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: what you did.

839
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: Rain Johns that's what. You have to watch this on

840
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: YouTube as well, because my mouth is on the fucking floor.

841
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by that. Okay, Kate of all the housewives

842
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: from Beverly Hills, oh See, Atlanta, Potomac, New York City,

843
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Miami. Okay, what housewife pastor present?

844
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: Okay?

845
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: Can you see being a part of members only? Palm Beach?

846
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: Oh Alexia in Miami. Oh, but she's like think she's

847
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: like I think she's a democrat. I just think like

848
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: her aesthetic, but like that that kind of like I'm

849
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: a former mob mob wife kind of mentality, and I

850
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: kind of think she would be so funny, like I

851
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 2: don't need to go to mar al Ago. That would

852
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: be funny to have somebody kind of show up and

853
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: like I don't want to be seen there. That would

854
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 2: be of the conflict, would be great.

855
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: Yes, I see her, I can see Sutton. Oh could

856
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: you no? Tell me no?

857
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: No, because she represents to me the actual people that

858
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: live there that are embarrassed by the show. Like she

859
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: would she'd be like, I do you think Sutton wouldever

860
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: want to be seen with Romina? No, Like that's that's

861
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 2: old money versus new money, right, what I want Sutton

862
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: on the show, of course. But you know what I

863
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: said to Did I say this to oh Darren who

864
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: made the show? To the producer? Yeah, yeah, I said, Darren,

865
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: you are going to have so many unbelievable people reach

866
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Speaker 2: out to you who want to be on the show.

867
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Speaker 2: It's just going to get better and better and better. Oh.

868
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And they have.

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Speaker 2: People from like Europe and like, yeah, god knows where

870
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Speaker 2: in the world that are going to go. I want

871
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Speaker 2: to be on that show. People do that with Housewives.

872
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: Now we're talking global scale. This show is going to

873
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: get better and better and better.

874
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Speaker 1: I want more of it.

875
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: I I.

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Speaker 1: Really enjoyed because again you and I have talked about this,

877
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: how we're kind of bored with the same a reality

878
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah, and I felt like this

879
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: this woke me up. It was sort of like too, yeah,

880
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: it woke me up.

881
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: Like I was like, now we're cooking.

882
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: Now we're cooking, and I'm intrigued by conversations that I

883
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: don't have on all the shows and listen it was.

884
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: It was more of an eye opening world to me

885
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: that I know exists, but no one dares to show

886
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: and it reminds me of because I said this to

887
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Speaker 1: you about like the view for example, how I'm like,

888
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, I want to know more about like the

889
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: other side, because they do exist, and I'm just curious

890
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: about like their thought process and rather or not, you know,

891
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: people agree or not disagree. I think it's worth hearing

892
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: the other side. And I think this show really showed

893
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: you how the other side lived. They talk about and

894
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: it was like being a fly on the wall.

895
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: Also, I kept thinking this was filmed last year, and like,

896
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 2: as time goes on and the world changes, honey, it's

897
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: all going to be so different season to season, you know,

898
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely, like put this in a time capsule, right.

899
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: Oh, I want more of it. So listen rain Jobs.

900
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 1: If you haven't watched it yet members only, Palm Beach

901
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: is currently streaming on Netflix and listen watch the episodes.

902
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: If you have watched it, let Kate and I know

903
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: what you think.

904
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: I want to know.

905
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: We're both packed up on X and we will respond

906
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: to you, so let us know. He was comments on

907
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: Spotify as well. Hey Kate Casey, let my audience know

908
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: where they can find you. Follow your support you, my darling.

909
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing they need to know is that

910
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 2: every week I put out a list of what to watch.

911
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: So there are reality shows and documentaries that you do

912
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: not know about, and I don't want you to miss

913
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: out on it. So if you go to Katekacy dot

914
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Speaker 2: substock dot com, you're going to get a list. And

915
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: I have run everything from sports to true crime, to

916
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 2: reality ensembles, to competition to obscure documentaries. So go there.

917
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Speaker 2: You can find me on TikTok and it's katekc Instagram

918
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: at Kkcca, I'm on x I'm on Threads. My podcast

919
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: is called Reality Life with Kksey. I have six episodes

920
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: a week and I'm bringing you interviews with the people

921
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: behind camera and in front of the camera. And I'm

922
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: telling you by the end of the week, you're going

923
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: to go, oh my god, I have three things I

924
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: have to watch.

925
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we have to talk about documentary that was

926
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Speaker 1: on your list that I did watch? Which one Evil Influencer?

927
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I interviewed the director of that one.

928
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's when we watch it.

929
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Speaker 2: Oh was this woman insane or what? By the way,

930
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: do you think that they I think that they were lovers. Well,

931
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: the daughter she wrote a book and she said that

932
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Speaker 2: that one night her mom was going up to her

933
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Speaker 2: room upstairs and that Jody was upstairs and there were

934
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Speaker 2: like all these candles lit.

935
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Speaker 1: They really do like about that?

936
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Speaker 2: Yes, well that's what I think that like Jody has

937
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: like internalized repression of her sexuality and she takes she

938
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Speaker 2: was taking it out on a lot of the men

939
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: that she would bring in these couples for therapy and

940
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: then convincing these women you don't really need your husband,

941
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: you need to because I think she wants to like

942
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Speaker 2: get it, get down to get down. Yeah, one hundred

943
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Speaker 2: percent they were. There were a couple that's and then

944
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 2: you that the shame that they were probably carrying because

945
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 2: their religion is like this is not cool.

946
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they lived together. The husband had to see

947
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Speaker 1: his children over a year.

948
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that dingling husband who's out of the house doesn't

949
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: see his kids. It is like, okay, whatever you say.

950
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: There was two I still the house in the.

951
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: Desert, the multimillion dollar house and the couple's massages with

952
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 2: the with the campbells. Yes, they were absolutely a couple.

953
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I can talk to you all day. All right.

954
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Speaker 2: By the way, last question, did you watch did you

955
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 2: watch heated rivalry.

956
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: Am I not an ugly gay man who like loves

957
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: loves all things LGBT? Honey over the it was Christmas break? Yeah,

958
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: And and to the point Kate, I thought the finale

959
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: was like episode seven, you know what I mean?

960
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: Like, so I was like wait what.

961
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, okay, ways, but I was sort of like,

962
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: all right, next episode. I'm like, are you kidding me?

963
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: Besides, and then I went insane on threads. I was like,

964
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 2: please tell me there's another season. But the good people

965
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: of HBO Max and Crape by the way, and astute

966
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: person at HBO Max was like, you know Crave, which

967
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: is basically HBO in Canada, Like they've got some incredible

968
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: stuff that person needs, like a raise and a half,

969
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. What they're guys brave projects.

970
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: Yes, like the Casey brothers, the guys who this trade

971
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: for things, the guy who did what's that Kevin Costner's

972
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: not anymore paramount, yo, you know how to get like

973
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: these massive overall deals. Yeah, they need that.

974
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Speaker 2: Oh right, it's I hope those guys. You know what.

975
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Speaker 2: The biggest thing I walked away from that This is

976
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: how you know my brain thinks, please bring back unknown actors.

977
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Speaker 2: Stop stop hiring people because they have a big TikTok following.

978
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't.

979
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: It doesn't superb actors. If they had stuck some of

980
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 2: these you know, influencers in the same actors all the time,

981
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Speaker 2: that would have not been the same project.

982
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Speaker 1: No, I can't not, Can I go still further to

983
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Speaker 1: start if you're going to have a gay role, start again,

984
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Speaker 1: cav openly gay actors.

985
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

986
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Speaker 1: It was so I mean, I could talk about this

987
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: all day it was. But anyways, it was a ten

988
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Speaker 1: out of a ten. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

989
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's like casting me to be like

990
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: a just Sell Buncheon. It's like, okay, what he'd a rivalry.

991
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: I hope those guys have very long, long careers. And

992
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: you know what I like too, Yeah, I think that

993
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: the actor that played Shane, he is so funny in interviews.

994
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: He's totally authentic himself. I like that the publicists are

995
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: not telling him to, you know, kind of turn the

996
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: volume down on his personality. He like curses and is like, yeah,

997
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 2: I love that too.

998
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: No, I think they're great. They're great. Please watch he

999
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: a robbery on HBO Max two is a underful scripted show,

1000
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: and again it goes with what we were saying about

1001
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: members only palm Beach. I think the success of these

1002
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: shows is showing the world that people are bored with

1003
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: the same on the same all and the fact that

1004
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: more women are watching hitted robbery than gay men shows

1005
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: you and a lot of streatment. I'm watching it too,

1006
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: but it goes to show you that there's an audience

1007
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: for new storytelling, whether it's unscripted a scripted. Yep, yeah,

1008
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: all right, love you kkse, honey, thank you, I'll see

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Speaker 1: you the next one.

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Speaker 2: You got it.

1011
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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

1012
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack

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Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube

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