Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 1: So I tweeted out this thing over the weekend, this
Speaker 1: long thread about the sexual revolution that I found was
Speaker 1: really interesting and a lot of the responses were fantastic,
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, that sparks a conversation we should
Speaker 1: do on the air, and then became aware of the
Speaker 1: perfect story to lead us into that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this young British woman, she's an only fans performer.
Speaker 2: Lily Phillips.
Speaker 3: She's twenty three years old from an intact home, middle
Speaker 3: class English but she's a porn on OnlyFans performer and
Speaker 3: decided to have sex with one hundred men in one
Speaker 3: day as some sort of click bait publicity stunt thing
Speaker 3: and documentary filmmakers deciding to make a documentary about the
Speaker 3: before and after.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering what people like, people who haven't heard this already,
Speaker 1: what their initial reaction to that was. Is there anybody
Speaker 1: listening whose initial reaction was anywhere in the realm of
Speaker 1: that's hot or were was practically everybody's initial reaction like
Speaker 1: physical revulsion.
Speaker 2: I get physical revulsion from hearing that.
Speaker 1: Not only do I not have a ooh that sounds hot,
Speaker 1: it kind of makes me sick to my stomach to
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's physically disgusting on several different levels, including the
Speaker 3: fact that the body is not meant to take that
Speaker 3: female form specifically. And secondly, I think there's a soul
Speaker 3: deep revulsion to any person being exploited in that way,
Speaker 3: including by herself.
Speaker 2: That's that's a damaged, sad soul.
Speaker 1: Well, who are the guys that participated in it and
Speaker 1: enjoyed it enough?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know the logistics of it, honestly. Well,
Speaker 3: in a lot of the documentaries about how she realized
Speaker 3: she had to remove her mind and her soul from
Speaker 3: her body during this experience and that was disturbing and
Speaker 3: discouraging and saddening and sickening and blah blah blah. But
Speaker 3: now you know the the bizarre and truly horrifying PostScript
Speaker 3: is she's announced that she's going to have sex with
Speaker 3: a thousand guys in a day as their next stunt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting that her immediate reaction at the end
Speaker 1: of the day of having sex with a hundred dudes
Speaker 1: was tearful, and I've seen the promo physically obviously emotionally
Speaker 1: physically shaken. I mean she was disturbed, yes, by what
Speaker 1: had happened. And I saw one reviewer say that this
Speaker 1: documentary is the best anti porn documentary unintentionally you could
Speaker 1: possibly make.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are serious psychological issues going on there.
Speaker 1: It's terrible, right, And does it mean anything more or
Speaker 1: not about our culture or anything? Or is it just
Speaker 1: a one off, stupid stunt. We can discuss that, but
Speaker 1: it leads into this pretty good I came across this
Speaker 1: and retweeted it. Like I said, I thought it was
Speaker 1: interesting this guy thinker writer person. The sexual Revolution was
Speaker 1: a disaster. Sixty years ago. They tried to redefine sexuality
Speaker 1: to liberate mankind using finger quotes. Everything they said was
Speaker 1: a lie. Yet there lies a ruined millions of lives.
Speaker 1: Here's the worst live the sexual revolution that is still
Speaker 1: plaguing society today. The sexual Revolution became prominent in the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties on the service.
Speaker 2: I said that in.
Speaker 1: Practice, however, it sought something sinister societal destruction. It sounds
Speaker 1: crazy at first but let's meet one of the movement's leaders.
Speaker 1: Do you know if her name is Kate Millet or
Speaker 1: Mallett or I don't know, am I l e Tt.
Speaker 1: Kate Millet was a leading figure of this sexual revolution.
Speaker 1: Time magazine called her the Karl Marx of the women's movement. Like,
Speaker 1: that's exactly sonod compliment. The thesis of her work was
Speaker 1: the family is a den of slavery, with the man
Speaker 1: as the bourgeoisie and the woman and children as the proletariat.
Speaker 1: Here she is on the cover of Time magazine back
Speaker 1: in the sixties. I'm looking at it right here.
Speaker 3: Well, they get the march part, right, Yeah, that's part
Speaker 3: of Marxism. She was just turned her attention to that
Speaker 3: aspect of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mellett said casual sex would free women from the
Speaker 1: slavery of marriage. Well, there you go. The fact that
Speaker 1: she thinks marriage is slavery is all you need to
Speaker 1: know about her. In reality, however, Millet wasn't after liberation
Speaker 1: like any Marxists. She wanted one thing, societal destruction. Her
Speaker 1: Sistery Mallory shared a chilling story explaining Millet's true agenda.
Speaker 1: Mallory recalled attending a feminist meeting with Millet in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty nine. The meeting began with a disturbing chant, which
Speaker 1: she called the Litany of Evil. It explained the core
Speaker 1: beliefs of Millet in her group. Here's the chance, as
Speaker 1: written in the book The Anti Mary, which is all
Speaker 1: about this woman. Why are we here today? The chairwoman asked,
Speaker 1: to make the revolution? They answered, what kind of revolution?
Speaker 1: She replied, the cultural revolution? They chanted, And how do
Speaker 1: we make the cultural revolution? She demanded, by destroying the
Speaker 1: American family. How do we destroy the family by destroying
Speaker 1: the American patriarch? How do we destroy the American patriarch
Speaker 1: by taking away his power? How do we do that
Speaker 1: by being? By destroying monogamy, they shouted, and everybody cheered.
Speaker 1: How do we destroy monogamy by promoting promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution, abortion,
Speaker 1: and homosexuality. And here we find the great life of
Speaker 1: the sexual revolution. Push promiscuity to destroy the family. But
Speaker 1: how does promiscuity destroy the family? And this is where
Speaker 1: it got really interesting to me. It breaks the bonds
Speaker 1: of marriage, destroys trust, and so's division between the sexes.
Speaker 1: Casual sex is dehumanizing other people's bodies, become the means
Speaker 1: for selfish pleasure. People degrade one another, themselves and their souls.
Speaker 1: A society that celebrates promiscuity is a dying society. To
Speaker 1: idolize sexes, to destroy trust, friendship, and family. In short,
Speaker 1: all civilizations live and die by their families. What, then,
Speaker 1: does healthy sexuality look like. Sexuality reaches peak virtue when
Speaker 1: it's expressed in marriage and its procreative. Why it orients
Speaker 1: your sexuality to love instead of lust. It becomes a
Speaker 1: force of charity that builds loving families. Monogamy is about
Speaker 1: giving everything to a person you love most. You don't
Speaker 1: lose freedom, you flourish and virtue. Procreation, meanwhile, teaches you
Speaker 1: to love your children more than yourself. Families become the
Speaker 1: force of charitable love. They're the bedrock of a healthy society.
Speaker 1: The takeaway above all offered grace who fallen victim to
Speaker 1: the lies of the sexual revolution. This person wrote beyond
Speaker 1: that reject the lies of casual sex. Lust drives you
Speaker 1: to ruin, but love offers an endless exaltation of virtue.
Speaker 1: One of the interesting things I thought about all that
Speaker 1: is he at no point got into the religion part
Speaker 1: that those who are such proponents of you know, free
Speaker 1: sex and sleeping around everything like that always point to
Speaker 1: people that are against that as some sort of religious
Speaker 1: sticking in the MUDs wackadoos. He didn't have to go
Speaker 1: there at all, Metalists. I mean, there is no denying
Speaker 1: that the sexual revolution tracks perfectly with the breakdown of
Speaker 1: the American family and endless divorces and blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's interesting to me. And I'm reminded of the
Speaker 3: old saying the greatest trick the devil ever played was
Speaker 3: convincing mankind he doesn't doesn't exist, the extent to which
Speaker 3: the Marxists of the world pitch various policies.
Speaker 2: Whether we're talking about what we were just talking about.
Speaker 3: And I had professors, at least one who has just
Speaker 3: kind of a casual throwaway as part of one of
Speaker 3: our discussions, I think it was a philosophy class, explained
Speaker 3: that the family is actually an institution of oppression and evil,
Speaker 3: and society will only be free when the nuclear family
Speaker 3: is torn apart. And I was sitting there, as a
Speaker 3: Midwestern kid from a happy, intact family, thinking the hell
Speaker 3: are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Free to do?
Speaker 3: What well, see, well that's my ultimate point though, which
Speaker 3: I'm working my way toward, is that whether it's that
Speaker 3: or the Alvin Braggs of the world and the Cesobodeines,
Speaker 3: the progressive prosecutors who are in George Giscone's who are
Speaker 3: pitching that we need this criminal justice reform to bring
Speaker 3: social justice to the streets, and we.
Speaker 2: Cannot prosecute our way out of the things we.
Speaker 3: See as if anybody thinks you can, again getting back
Speaker 3: to the devil convincing us he doesn't exist. What percentage
Speaker 3: of the population understands that these people make these moral
Speaker 3: arguments for these policies and the people, the real activists
Speaker 3: don't mean a word of it. Now, they're useful idiots
Speaker 3: on the college campuses. They've bought the moral arguments and
Speaker 3: they think they're sincere, and so they pitch them to humanity.
Speaker 3: But at the core of it, it's not because they
Speaker 3: think these policies will help our society.
Speaker 2: It's that they think it will tear it apart.
Speaker 3: They want to bring on collapse in chaos, because in
Speaker 3: that chaos, this is straight out of March.
Speaker 2: It's amazing nobody knows this.
Speaker 3: Out of that chaos, they take control and institute communism.
Speaker 1: Well, how about this, How much do you think the
Speaker 1: sexual revolution plays a part in the breakdown of the
Speaker 1: American family, as this person just laid out.
Speaker 2: Do you agree with you? Very very large?
Speaker 1: Yeah, very very large, if not like practically all of it.
Speaker 1: I know one in that I mean who I mean,
Speaker 1: I can understand how if you're a twenty two year
Speaker 1: old guy, you might think that's a win. Maybe a
Speaker 1: twenty two year old woman you might think that's a win.
Speaker 1: But long term, really did it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: There are a lot of my favorite thinkers agree that
Speaker 3: the transitory feeling of freedom and the enjoyment of promisecuity
Speaker 3: among women was very very short lived. And among the
Speaker 3: vast majorities of women, they realized, Oh, being convinced that
Speaker 3: I can have sex just like a promiscuous guy is great.
Speaker 2: It was a lie.
Speaker 3: It just enabled them to be used by more guys.
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't judge you folks. You do
Speaker 3: whatever you think is right, whatever you feel. You choose
Speaker 3: your own life path, and I wish you well. But
Speaker 3: there's just no questioning this. And we're old enough to
Speaker 3: have seen several of these cycles. All change is not progress.
Speaker 3: There are things that catch hold, and everybody is doing them,
Speaker 3: everybody's talking about them. It's a huge trend in a
Speaker 3: society that turn out to be terrible, practically disastrous. Just
Speaker 3: because everybody's doing it doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Speaker 2: Far from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting. Do you think there's any putting
Speaker 1: the genie back in the bottle on that sort of
Speaker 1: thing outside of like a cataclysmic you know, great depression,
Speaker 1: World war sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 3: I mean, in spite of these big societal waves we've
Speaker 3: been talking about, people still have the capacity to make
Speaker 3: their own judgments and craft their own lives. I suspect
Speaker 3: that among people who see it that more the way
Speaker 3: we see it, it'll be fine. But no, I think
Speaker 3: you're right to have a serious change back to a
Speaker 3: more traditional view of sexuality and sex and marriage and
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. Yeah, it would take some huge,
Speaker 3: huge societal change.
Speaker 1: I just I'm surprised there's not more like just looking
Speaker 1: at the results and thinking, Okay, are we better off
Speaker 1: here than we were before? And if you think so,
Speaker 1: explain to me in what way you have more sexual
Speaker 1: partners by the end of your life. How's that a win? Necessarily.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. It's tough because people just
Speaker 3: they're living their lives. They're surrounded by one hundred different
Speaker 3: inputs and swirling currents of this, that and the other,
Speaker 3: and it's tough for them to really nail down one
Speaker 3: particular aspect of life like this and say, okay, that
Speaker 3: change has had a bad result.
Speaker 2: It's just all too confusing.
Speaker 1: I think, well, I don't think what this one is
Speaker 1: that confusing. I think it's a fairly straight line from
Speaker 1: sexual revolution through the family coming apart, and the the
Speaker 1: explanation there of the you know, sowing the seeds of
Speaker 1: distrust and lying and blah blah blah blah blah, all that.
Speaker 2: Sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: That's just horrible, horrible, horrible.
Speaker 3: To add to that, the richest government on earth declaring
Speaker 3: to women all over the country you don't have to
Speaker 3: be married to a man anymore.
Speaker 2: You can be married to the government.
Speaker 1: Awesome anything that. We've got a lot of replies on Twitter,
Speaker 1: but most of you aren't on Twitter. What do you
Speaker 1: think you could text or email? I mean might have
Speaker 1: some in mail bag tomorrow. You could text now four
Speaker 1: one five, two nine five KFTC. All right, we had
Speaker 1: a side whether we ll not hear this or not.
Speaker 1: So we've got the audio of that only fans chick
Speaker 1: who had sex with one hundred guys in one day.
Speaker 1: And if you were listening to the previous segment, we
Speaker 1: are not celebrating this sort of thing at all. We're
Speaker 1: using an example of the breakdown of I don't know society, well,
Speaker 1: I don't even know.
Speaker 2: I don't even think it's morals.
Speaker 1: I think it's practicality, just the practicality of having a
Speaker 1: happy life.
Speaker 3: A lot of morals, that's what they are, sure, Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But they're always looked at wrong.
Speaker 1: They're looked at as like a because God said it,
Speaker 1: you have to do it? What kind of weird I
Speaker 1: would believe in that. No, it's gonna give you a
Speaker 1: better life, is the reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's because it's been tried five million times living
Speaker 3: a life, and we've figured out the best ways to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: Anyway, back to our question, we've got audio of this
Speaker 1: woman describing what.
Speaker 2: It was like. Do we want to hear from m.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, why not? Yeah, I've heard it before. It's uh,
Speaker 3: it's interesting, Go ahead, Michael.
Speaker 2: First one, it's not for the week.
Speaker 4: Girls.
Speaker 1: If I wants it was hard, I don't know if
Speaker 1: i'd recommend it. Why.
Speaker 5: I think if you're a different type of girl, it's
Speaker 5: very like.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like being in a sense of like
Speaker 2: it's just a different.
Speaker 3: Feeling.
Speaker 6: I don't know how to explain it. Like it's not
Speaker 6: like just having something yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Just one in, one out, Like it feels intense, I'm sure,
Speaker 4: like more intense than you thought.
Speaker 1: It might totally And then she starts crying and that nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get to the next one, Michael.
Speaker 2: I think that was kind of the hard part is
Speaker 2: like this is this is irrelevant, stop it.
Speaker 3: This has to do with more generally with her only
Speaker 3: fans career and just constantly providing satisfactory content for subscribers.
Speaker 3: But in other clips that I've heard, she talks about
Speaker 3: she can't remember the faces of most of the men.
Speaker 1: Well, of course, not one hundred in a day, how
Speaker 1: could you?
Speaker 2: And I quote from the Free Press.
Speaker 3: At first, she pretends she's upset because she feels badly
Speaker 3: that some men and haven't been satisfied despite traveling a
Speaker 3: long way and supporting her. But soon what appears to
Speaker 3: be the real truth beyond her grief is revealed quote.
Speaker 3: I think it was like feeling so robotic. I've got
Speaker 3: this routine of how we are going to do this,
Speaker 3: and like sometimes you're just disassociated and it's like not normal.
Speaker 3: And in other words, she was describing separating her body
Speaker 3: from her soul. And as this writer points out, the
Speaker 3: way she describes her experience is virtually indistinguishable from the
Speaker 3: symptoms of rape trauma, syndrome, mood swings, dissociations, self blame, guilt,
Speaker 3: and sometimes hyper sexuality.
Speaker 1: And then she'll be dealing with a lot of these
Speaker 1: feelings the rest of her life and she's only twenty three.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And this writer, it's very good, gets into various
Speaker 3: sex workers of various ages and various parts of the world.
Speaker 2: The whole I have to deaden my soul to get
Speaker 2: through it.
Speaker 1: You know, someday you might want to meet a nice
Speaker 1: guy and get married and have kids, and this has
Speaker 1: made it quite a bit more difficult. Oof Again, did
Speaker 1: anybody react to that whole story?
Speaker 2: Is that's hot? I don't think anybody did. Armstrong and Geeddy, so.
Speaker 1: We were talking about this ondly fans fan star who
Speaker 1: had sex with one hundred guys in a day, and
Speaker 1: they made a documentary about it and it's disgusting. And
Speaker 1: then we rolled into this Twitter thread that I came
Speaker 1: across over the weekend about the sexual Revolution and out
Speaker 1: was a lie and it destroyed American families and it
Speaker 1: made women less happy. And maybe you agree with that,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't. Kay, Do you want to weigh in
Speaker 1: on any of this Before we get to some texts,
Speaker 1: this whole story makes me sick. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: It's just listening to that clip of her talking about
Speaker 4: what about the aftermath? She sounded like a rape victim,
Speaker 4: and it just this is gonna this is She's twenty
Speaker 4: three years old, right, She's got her whole life and
Speaker 4: she I just feel very bad for this girl.
Speaker 1: She's pretty financially successful. I think she got two million
Speaker 1: dollars for this, and she has like five employees or
Speaker 1: something like that, lives in London, my full time employees,
Speaker 1: so she's but like, is that two million dollars? I
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to justify it. I just just throwing that
Speaker 1: in a couple of texts we got about this whole topic,
Speaker 1: this one. I'm afraid she's going to kill herself in
Speaker 1: the future. I hope not, but that wouldn't shock me.
Speaker 1: As she gets older, it's going to become more clear
Speaker 1: on just on the idea of the sexual revolution was
Speaker 1: a lie and uh nobody benefited got this text I
Speaker 1: thought was interesting. Born in San Francisco, I lived this
Speaker 1: period right to this person, and I think I know
Speaker 1: who they are. Even then I thought something was off
Speaker 1: about it. And now alone without children and a bunch
Speaker 1: of cats, and I can say, what a krocabloney.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. From a dude's side of this, female absolute and
Speaker 1: relative of happiness has gone down since the feminism and
Speaker 1: sexual libertine culture of the sixties. Women complained, got their
Speaker 1: way and made themselves less happy. Guess who they're going
Speaker 1: to blame for their lack of happiness. Most divorce men
Speaker 1: can tell you, haha, writes this person. Wow, well, well
Speaker 1: enjoy that. Laughing last, I'm just.
Speaker 3: Reminded of the unif for the Joe Getty unified theory
Speaker 3: of civilizations. That and there's so many examples of it.
Speaker 3: It's almost tedious that we veer from one guardrail to
Speaker 3: the other, never have any idea when we hit the
Speaker 3: sweet spot, and keep going until we've gone way too far.
Speaker 3: And created a disaster. Then we veer back toward the
Speaker 3: other guardrail. Another example of this, you know, crime policy
Speaker 3: back and forth, there are too many people in prison,
Speaker 3: were too hard on crime, Well, there's too much crime
Speaker 3: in the streets.
Speaker 2: We didn't need to be harder on crime.
Speaker 3: And it just goes back and forth. Sexuality, I think
Speaker 3: is similar. Their a handful of other fairly obvious examples.
Speaker 1: But on the left side of politics, I don't feel
Speaker 1: like the left appreciates appreciate culture at all and the
Speaker 1: role it plays in society.
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem to be a concern.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 3: I think in general, on the left, including you know,
Speaker 3: moderate lefty people that we could work with that would
Speaker 3: be fine, we can talk about policy and come to
Speaker 3: a happy conclusion, there is in general much less regard
Speaker 3: for the importance of culture.
Speaker 2: I would agree completely.
Speaker 3: And on your outer left, and I'm not talking about
Speaker 3: five percent, I'm talking about like twenty five percent of
Speaker 3: the left, they hate the culture and want to destroy it.
Speaker 3: Back to my theme, a lot of the neo Marxist
Speaker 3: stuff they pitch it to you as a way to
Speaker 3: improve society. They are fully cognizant of the fact that
Speaker 3: it will not do anything but destroy society.
Speaker 2: That is their goal.
Speaker 3: They've written books, their names are on the spine. This
Speaker 3: is not my fantasy. They will tell you proudly that
Speaker 3: this is their goal. Does that bother anybody.
Speaker 1: On the left that the champion of the sexual revolution
Speaker 1: was out to destroy the American family because I thought
Speaker 1: that would be better for I mean, I know some
Speaker 1: of you agree with that, but not most of you,
Speaker 1: right anyway?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I will always be amazed till my
Speaker 3: dying day how few people take the radical left at
Speaker 3: their word. They have told you precisely what they're doing,
Speaker 3: and people like me are considered I don't know, paranoid
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's not paranoid at.
Speaker 1: All, religious wacko. We need some really good transition music, Michael.
Speaker 2: Do you need maybe even two sit different?
Speaker 5: Perhaps I do it in stereo, Go ahead, Marxist.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't you know? The lady along with.
Speaker 3: Their cats at San Francisco reminded they were cat sitting.
Speaker 2: My daughter's a cat. Your cat sitting? I think you
Speaker 2: to make the communist warbler go away? Michael?
Speaker 3: Have you no sense of when enough is? I don't
Speaker 3: know why am I yelling at Michael you're cats sitting you.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: Indeed, my daughter has two absolutely delightful cats. They are
Speaker 3: kind of adolescent age. They haven't quite mellowed out into
Speaker 3: super chill cats lay on top of the sofa and
Speaker 3: just look at you. They still want to play a
Speaker 3: lot and stuff. So they're there. They're a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Do they on things? That's always my concern if I'm
Speaker 1: watching anybody.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're very very well littered. Boxy train naturally.
Speaker 3: The cats do that naturally. Really, they have some sort
Speaker 3: of problem, but they've been delightful. They're a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: They're so sweet, and I'm not allergic to them by
Speaker 3: some miracle. But Judy and I have agreed that, like
Speaker 3: the last evening, I walk the dog, I run up,
Speaker 3: I play with the cats because they need some interaction
Speaker 3: stuff like that. I go downstairs and I feed the dog.
Speaker 3: Then I take a shower, and then I blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Then I got to go to deal with the cats
Speaker 3: because Judy was out. And then I go out to
Speaker 3: the garage and this frog or toad or something's jumping around.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm living I'm Doctor Doolittle over here. But
Speaker 3: it's a lot of work. It's a lot of responsibility
Speaker 3: having two more beasts in the house. Yeah, poor packster
Speaker 3: is so old and I don't know if he's hard
Speaker 3: at hearing or whatever. They don't meow upstairs because they're
Speaker 3: restrict restricted to one upstairs bedroom and they meow and
Speaker 3: we look at past her and he's like, what what
Speaker 3: are you looking at me for?
Speaker 2: So he's totally unaware.
Speaker 1: I'm a pet fan in general, but the pet thing
Speaker 1: is just it. It's beyond where it was thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. It's just and oh, yes, can you
Speaker 1: afford it? Do you have time for it? Does your
Speaker 1: lifestyle allow for this? And the traveling with the pets.
Speaker 1: While I was staying in a hotel over Thanksgiving, nice
Speaker 1: hotel that allows dogs, and most of the people I
Speaker 1: saw having their dogs in the hotel, they looked miserable,
Speaker 1: trying to deal with it.
Speaker 2: Is stressed out, stressed out.
Speaker 1: And I saw mom and dad trying to get the
Speaker 1: dog out of the room with the kids and.
Speaker 2: You hold that, you hold the dog, I'll bring them.
Speaker 1: It's like, is this fun for anybody having the dog
Speaker 1: with you on this trip?
Speaker 2: Or it would have been just fine. To have the
Speaker 2: dog at home.
Speaker 1: Or not have a dog.
Speaker 3: You talk about facets of modern life. I don't get
Speaker 3: I love dogs. I love my dog, but he's not
Speaker 3: coming on any damn trip. Sorry, he's not coming to
Speaker 3: the store with me.
Speaker 1: I've talked to my son about this. I said, you
Speaker 1: gotta get this early in the relationship. I mean, are
Speaker 1: they dog rides in the truck with you wherever you go,
Speaker 1: person sleeps in the bed with you, person goes to
Speaker 1: the restaurant or not? And are you because he's a
Speaker 1: no way and uh, because.
Speaker 2: That's it, that's it.
Speaker 1: That could be a deal breaker because one of you
Speaker 1: has to give on something that's obviously very important to you.
Speaker 2: Right, animals in the car?
Speaker 1: I hate it, absolutely, Oh really I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't mind that for some reason.
Speaker 3: But I just the logistics of trying to do things
Speaker 3: and tend to a dog. Katie, what the side of
Speaker 3: this are you on? Are you the dog goes everywhere?
Speaker 2: Person? Oh, my dog has a car seat. Sure, that's
Speaker 2: absolutely fine, but I don't want to do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he actually went to a restaurant with us and
Speaker 4: was very well behaved.
Speaker 1: It was amazing cool, It's fantastic.
Speaker 2: I just I don't want to do it, miss Now,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: On what it's not on something else to worry about.
Speaker 2: Ah, it's funny's your your best friend.
Speaker 1: You do have situation though, where you have set on
Speaker 1: the air that you were working toward a family, and
Speaker 1: so you got the whole messing thing going that that
Speaker 1: that's that's different too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little baby crazy, Yeah exactly, you've got sweaters
Speaker 4: and stuff, that's what.
Speaker 1: That's what?
Speaker 2: Oh lord, yeah, my daughter in the cat's place place.
Speaker 3: It's it's so clearly rehearsing, which fine, but yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: I think that's natural.
Speaker 2: Sure, right, quick question for Katie.
Speaker 5: When you took the dog to the restaurant, did you
Speaker 5: guys order him a meal?
Speaker 4: I did order him a plain beef patty and he
Speaker 4: thoroughly enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: All right, So we're dealing with a nut job here,
Speaker 3: Folks's sweet kind of nutty.
Speaker 1: Do you take him through the drive through at Starbucks
Speaker 1: where they have what do they call him?
Speaker 2: Puppet pop?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: I have not done that. Yeah, you're well you don't
Speaker 2: love them, then, I guess. Oh god, I was.
Speaker 1: Watching that family fight their dog at the at the
Speaker 1: at the hotel, trying to get the kids and the
Speaker 1: dog and all the stuff. And I thought that freaking
Speaker 1: looks miserable. They look, oh no, I.
Speaker 4: Mean mine's twelve pounds, so I can just pick him up.
Speaker 1: That is a difference. I've always been a big dog person.
Speaker 1: Joe and I have talked about this over the years.
Speaker 1: I've always liked big dogs, always had big dogs. Then
Speaker 1: Henry want to pug. We got a pug. Here's something
Speaker 1: awful handy about the tiny little dog. You just pick
Speaker 1: up here, come here, setting you over here for now?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And housing and feeding and cleaning up after a seventy
Speaker 3: five pound dog as well.
Speaker 2: It's many multiples of the little fella.
Speaker 3: Although I did lose that bet against the Chiuamo owner.
Speaker 2: But either you heard about that or you didn't.
Speaker 3: You know, on the other end of the lifespan, Katie
Speaker 3: do various people who may or may not be like
Speaker 3: rehearsing parenthood. When Delaney left the house, it was when she,
Speaker 3: you know, went off to college. It was a couple
Speaker 3: of years after our dog Onyx had died, who's a
Speaker 3: black lab too, And I was so disoriented by not
Speaker 3: having another beast to care for. I we got a dog,
Speaker 3: and whoever you are, I should remember your name. Some
Speaker 3: emailer wrote, Joe, are you out of your friggin mind?
Speaker 3: You finally got an empty nest, you got all this
Speaker 3: freedom and you got a big dog.
Speaker 2: What's the matter with you? And he was right on
Speaker 2: one level.
Speaker 3: Although backsher is my buddy and I love him, but yeah,
Speaker 3: this time and Judy has put her foot down, and
Speaker 3: it's fine. I need some sort of dad detox program
Speaker 3: so I can just get used to it's just the
Speaker 3: two of us, and I'm not caring for another beast
Speaker 3: who needs my attention A lot?
Speaker 1: Does free you up a lot when you don't have
Speaker 1: a pet? Yeah, man, let's go here or there or whatever.
Speaker 3: But you know, as some listeners know, I had a
Speaker 3: minor child under my roof for twenty five consecutive years,
Speaker 3: and it's not easy to transition.
Speaker 2: Out of that life. Sound it's not effortless.
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. I will have to imagine in
Speaker 1: about ten years, eight years, I guess we.
Speaker 2: Will finish strong. Next. Have we played Mariah Carry?
Speaker 1: That is the most popular Christmas song of all time?
Speaker 1: They claim we should have that on that it's them
Speaker 1: of trite Christmas songs.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, you want to hear that troll up over
Speaker 3: the great Andy Williams. Get your own show, buddy, not
Speaker 3: in my something or other.
Speaker 1: Trump did a press conference today, very long, took lots
Speaker 1: of questions. Here's one of them.
Speaker 7: I think the two things happening. We're seeing these leaks
Speaker 7: every day. You know, Facebook's coming on board and other
Speaker 7: companies are coming on board. Plus the rallying cry around Pete.
Speaker 7: I think Trump is as tough as ever right now.
Speaker 1: It does not sound like a question and answer. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump at his press call, all right, the wrong one here, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. Any questions for Howard by the way, Commerce,
Speaker 1: Chris Gerry, do you see another trade deal with China coming?
Speaker 6: I think the president h it's easy for me. You're
Speaker 6: sitting next to me, so it's okay. Now.
Speaker 2: The President has.
Speaker 6: Very clear agenda for tasks, and I think reciprocity is
Speaker 6: something that is going to be a key topic for us.
Speaker 6: How you treat us is how you should expect to
Speaker 6: be treated.
Speaker 5: So well.
Speaker 1: Reciprocal. If they tax us, we tax them the same
Speaker 1: amount they tax us. Forget it, just for a second
Speaker 1: about the word tech.
Speaker 2: They tax us, we tax them, and they tax us.
Speaker 6: Almost in all cases they're taxing us, and we haven't
Speaker 6: been taxing yet.
Speaker 1: So I mentioned there is a guest essay in the
Speaker 1: New York Times from some think tank dude that thought
Speaker 1: Trump's got this right on China and in a position
Speaker 1: to like really devastate them and to our favor. Michael mcfowell,
Speaker 1: former ambassador, tweeted this out yesterday. US stocks now make
Speaker 1: up sixty five percent of the global equity market, the
Speaker 1: highest in history, eleven times bigger than the second largest country,
Speaker 1: which is Japan.
Speaker 2: China is equal with Canada.
Speaker 3: Right where do you want to bet your own money
Speaker 3: on the future? The US of a is where, well,
Speaker 3: the vast majority of mankind says, for damn good reason.
Speaker 3: And back to that Trump Plutnik press conference. That sounds
Speaker 3: like a very annodiety, a very banal thing to say,
Speaker 3: they tax us, we tax them the same. That's a
Speaker 3: revolutionary break from last forty years of policy towards China,
Speaker 3: where business America and the business of America is business
Speaker 3: still said, Look, it is such a vast freaking market.
Speaker 3: Yes they're screwing us, Yes they're cheating us, but a
Speaker 3: they're kind of a third world country and they need
Speaker 3: a hand up.
Speaker 2: And b we're going to make so much damn money.
Speaker 3: Who cares if they're subsidies to their industries and their
Speaker 3: tariffs are utterly unfair and uneven with ours. Let's just
Speaker 3: put up with it and make money. Well, Trump is
Speaker 3: saying quite correctly, in my opinion, we've let that go
Speaker 3: long enough. Now there's going to be reciprocity. It's going
Speaker 3: to be an even play in field China you still
Speaker 3: want to play. Going to be interesting to see how
Speaker 3: this works out. But as I just pointed out, with
Speaker 3: those stats and many others, we have a lot of leverage.
Speaker 3: I love it, Love it, love it, especially when you
Speaker 3: consider that a lot of countries around the world are
Speaker 3: feeling the way Jack, You're always feeling, Hey twice that
Speaker 3: all this cheap Chinese crap on all of our shelves,
Speaker 3: and we don't manufacture anything anymore. Our textile industries have
Speaker 3: gone away. Just everybody's buying Chinese crap that they're dumping
Speaker 3: in our market.
Speaker 8: Enough, I'm inspired every single day by the remarkable work
Speaker 8: that Jack and Joe perform on behalf of the American public.
Speaker 8: They've got a busy day Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and so on.
Speaker 8: They have carefully prepared for these final thoughts. And the
Speaker 8: fact of the matter is they have final thoughts and
Speaker 8: they have them every single day.
Speaker 2: That is remarkable, how good that is. Here's your host
Speaker 2: for final thoughts, Joe Getty. It's disturbing.
Speaker 3: Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the
Speaker 3: crew to wrap things up for the day.
Speaker 2: Michael Angelow lead us off. Got to take another crack
Speaker 2: at the Christmas slide. Still haven't quite gotten them right.
Speaker 2: Every time I look up there, they're still crooked. So
Speaker 2: gotta get them right.
Speaker 3: Yeh's a spirit that's the most important, Michael. Katie Green,
Speaker 3: our esteemed newswoman. As a final thought, Katie.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll bring this up on the One More Thing
Speaker 4: podcast because I'm not proud of it. But I did
Speaker 4: my first bang bang yes on Saturday.
Speaker 2: To back meals of a different kind. What were they?
Speaker 4: McDonald's and Domino's.
Speaker 3: Nice, bang bang basic, But you know what, well done.
Speaker 2: Jack.
Speaker 1: A final thought for us, I've big guy, I've got
Speaker 1: to find the joy. I was running errands all weekend long,
Speaker 1: running around in the lines and the parking and the
Speaker 1: and I just I was I was surly, and I
Speaker 1: just could not find the Christmas joy. I've got to
Speaker 1: work on that over the next week and a half.
Speaker 3: My final thought is heavy, heavy, friends, bend it the
Speaker 3: way slightly, use your legs, not your back. If you're
Speaker 3: looking for a happy life, go with ancient wisdom over
Speaker 3: momentary trends.
Speaker 1: Good one Armstrong and Geeddy wrapping about other grueling four
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Speaker 2: Fan for Christmas.
Speaker 3: You might have to put the old gift certificate under
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Speaker 2: We we'll see you tomorrow. God bless America. Screw it,
Speaker 2: I'm leaving ping a personal privilege. I think that right now.
Speaker 2: You know the honeymoon's over, so little doo much docky dog?
Speaker 2: Do you understand share the word?
Speaker 1: You're three?
Speaker 2: Come on, this is the United States. You'll marry for
Speaker 2: God's sake. Yeah, remember that.
Speaker 1: Be optimistic, stay strong, remember you came from your mom.
Speaker 2: It's a little stupid Dale. Thank y'all very much, Armstrong
Speaker 2: and Getty