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Speaker 2: Hmm.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Nila and

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Speaker 3: I'm Erica, and today we are joined by the lovely

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Speaker 3: ladies of Cat and that Cat and that can hear

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Speaker 3: light from the club.

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Speaker 2: They see me, they hate it. They try and catch

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Speaker 2: me ride and dirty. Okay, I don't know that. I

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Speaker 2: hate you guys.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of rolling and hating, I have a question, how

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Speaker 3: how is you?

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Speaker 2: Like? How are your PTA meetings and birthday parties? Do

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Speaker 2: the other moms.

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Speaker 3: Hate on you because you have like this cool thing

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Speaker 3: or they're like they're not, like how what's the vibe like?

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Speaker 3: Because sometimes I find myself not telling other moms about

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Speaker 3: the podcast because we're smoking weed and ship over here.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't, I don't mention.

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Speaker 3: It, but like, what's what's the vibe in your mom

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Speaker 3: in Canada?

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Speaker 4: And we don't. We don't do that ship. We don't

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Speaker 4: do PTA meeting, we don't do birthday parties. We don't

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Speaker 4: we we we don't. We don't partake in that ship.

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Speaker 2: We have seven kids. You don't need to go to

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Speaker 2: birthday parties. This is your birthday. We did that.

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Speaker 4: We're done that.

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Speaker 5: We did that for a long, we did, we did,

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Speaker 5: We're done.

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Speaker 6: I know we're done that, but no, you know, the

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Speaker 6: moms that do acknowledge that they know who we are

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Speaker 6: are always really really sweet and kind and like, thank

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Speaker 6: you so much for what you do and like, you know,

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Speaker 6: you've got me through some hard times. And then and then,

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Speaker 6: you know, sometimes like it's kind of embarrassing because you

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Speaker 6: guys are crazy too and use your open books.

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Speaker 4: They don't know that they might not be in their heads,

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Speaker 4: they might not be.

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Speaker 2: No, we know, we do. We know we're crazy anyway.

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Speaker 4: But like you know, we do.

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Speaker 6: We do like the late night live shows on Thursday

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Speaker 6: nights that are really inappropriate, and you know there's sometimes

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Speaker 6: like you know, bull socks that could be shown.

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Speaker 4: And then I was.

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Speaker 6: Walking down the street and this girl was like, hey,

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Speaker 6: I watch a Thursday night Live and I'm literally like

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Speaker 6: trying to be like a normal mom walking my dog,

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Speaker 6: and I know that she knows that she knows that

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Speaker 6: I know what just happened the night before, and she's

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Speaker 6: like I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm glad you're joining your community.

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Speaker 4: Well so embarrassed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but no, everyone's pretty supportive, and then the other

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Speaker 6: ones pretend they don't know who we are.

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Speaker 3: For our listeners if we don't know, Like Cat and

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Speaker 3: I have been in the mom game for a minute,

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Speaker 3: they've been momming from their car live for a long time.

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Speaker 3: Trailblaze in these streets is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Moms, how did you guys? How did you guys even

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Speaker 1: start your whole platform? And just how did you even

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Speaker 1: go about doing it with all your kids? I mean,

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Speaker 1: we only have one, and I'm like, fuck.

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Speaker 6: So Kat asked me because I was like, Oh, it

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Speaker 6: wouldn't it be great to have a really, really really

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Speaker 4: She's like, would you be able to be with the

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Speaker 4: billionaire if what he really wanted from you was for

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Speaker 4: you to start in his mouth? And I said, I

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Speaker 4: think he could do. He could do I think a

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Speaker 4: lifestyle of billionaires. I think I could do it.

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Speaker 5: We're sitting in our neighborhood with moms walking by, drinking

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Speaker 5: coffee and like seemingly living normal lives, and we're in

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Speaker 5: and that's like we really don't fit in here anywhere,

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Speaker 5: really do we? And it was like a moment where

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Speaker 5: I think our whole lives we've I know it sounds

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Speaker 5: so cliche, but we really never have fit in anywhere,

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Speaker 5: and so it feels like we started something based on

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Speaker 5: a need of what we needed, and other moms always

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Speaker 5: kind of asked us for advice because you know, we're

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Speaker 5: good moms, and I'm just I'm gonna put that right

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Speaker 4: We're really good.

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Speaker 5: Moms, and I think it's because we're fairly confident in

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Speaker 5: our decisions, Like we don't second guess what we're doing

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Speaker 5: every day.

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Speaker 4: We just kind of do it and don't apologize for it.

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Speaker 5: And I think that we started something to have conversations

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Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 5: Like you always try to have conversations and then you're interrupted.

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Speaker 6: So we needed and we needed to create a place

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Speaker 6: where we belonged, and if we were the leaders of

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Speaker 6: our community, then we definitely belong We.

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Speaker 5: Started that, right, I'm not leaders of anything. We're just

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Speaker 5: two moms who have a bunch of people. You're the leaders, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I got it. Community, you're the leader.

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Speaker 2: You guys are community leaders. Okay, community, I'll take it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're community leaders and social scientists.

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Speaker 1: And I also I have to say that the woman

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Speaker 1: husband every day.

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Speaker 2: Give me surprise how freaky people are?

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Speaker 1: Like, there's people and I'm sure you get like people

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Speaker 1: that message you and you look at their Instagram and

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Speaker 1: you're like what the fuck? Like they're telling you like

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Speaker 1: their most freakiest, deeakiest stories you've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: Like there was one that actually with the girl.

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Speaker 1: Wrote into us, and we have a segment on our

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Speaker 1: show called horror Stories where like, you know, you can

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Speaker 1: share like your hotels, and like this woman wrote in

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Speaker 1: and she basically.

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Speaker 2: Like her she like was hanging out with a guy

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Speaker 2: that was like her friend and they started having sex.

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Speaker 1: Then her boyfriend showed up her house and started knocking

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Speaker 1: and was like trying to get in, and she was

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Speaker 2: And then the guy she's having sex was open the window.

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Speaker 1: They started, so they start having sex in the window,

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Speaker 1: and then the boyfriend started.

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Speaker 2: Watching them through the window, and then he knocked on the.

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Speaker 1: Door and then then locked the door and then he

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Speaker 1: came in and then oh sex.

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Speaker 2: I was like, what is this? I porn? And then

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Speaker 2: I looked at your page.

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Speaker 4: Wait, show me her page.

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Speaker 2: You didn't show me her page. I can't remember now,

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Speaker 2: but I'll show you later her page. I was like,

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Speaker 1: She was having like, uh penetration, no double penetration threesome.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, well, I mean, I guess it's

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Speaker 1: no look for double penetration. There is no Lie just

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Speaker 4: I feel like she.

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Speaker 6: Got so lucky.

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Speaker 5: It was a bit desperate at all the doors being

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe it. I was just like, you

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Speaker 1: can't put ship past anyone. Don't don't, don't, don't let

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Speaker 1: those girls want. Those moms walk by you with their

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Speaker 1: dogs and their coffees. They're probably getting d peed last night.

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Speaker 6: Okay, do you do you guys have one story that's

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Speaker 6: like your hoeyus.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you've probably told told your audience very scary.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes there's been some creepy ones. We would we want

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Speaker 1: to encourage people.

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Speaker 3: To, like you, share their leg what what would be

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Speaker 3: would generally be considered a very horror like act or

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Speaker 3: horrorsh act. You know, just tell your story, because who

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Speaker 3: why do we do horrish things to tell? People about

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Speaker 3: half the shit in my life I've done. Because I'm like,

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Speaker 3: this is gonna be a good story.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go. I gotta go do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, if I don't do this, like what kind

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Speaker 3: of what kind of storyteller?

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Speaker 2: Would I be?

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Speaker 4: In a park in the middle of the day so

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Speaker 4: I could tell the story?

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Speaker 2: How did you keep your balance? You must be a

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Speaker 2: great rollerblader.

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Speaker 6: So there was like this this big, big park biking

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Speaker 6: with a guy and it was like broad daylight. And

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Speaker 6: then there was a bridge and it was a public bridge,

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Speaker 6: but I could hold on to the bridge, so.

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Speaker 1: The skates do have that little like break so you

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Speaker 2: Though on the back, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you're lucky you didn't go forward and knock

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Speaker 4: your teeth out. It was quick. Nobody came, but they

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Speaker 4: could have, and I just sorted it feels like a disaster.

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Speaker 4: I wish I could have fumed it, Like imagine we

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Speaker 4: could watch that it was real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds pretty dangerous.

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Speaker 3: You're just like a that's like you're a stunt like artist,

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Speaker 3: because I would have surely broke something sexual stuff. My

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Speaker 3: next job, My next job, you'll put on your resume.

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously our our plot.

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Speaker 1: Getting back to how you guys started your your whole

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Speaker 2: You guys have book.

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Speaker 1: You have a book, you have a podcast, You're facebooking,

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Speaker 1: you're living your mommying. You're like your kids are all

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Speaker 1: you had. I think you have makeup on or just

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Speaker 5: I want to look like I just worked out all

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Speaker 5: the time and I don't care if it ever goes

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Speaker 5: out of stop. I wanted the moon to see me

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I need to send you some product. Do you

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Speaker 2: know I have a beauty brand. I need to send you.

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Speaker 4: You have your own beauty brand?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I me and my mom.

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Speaker 4: You know, I tried.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to send you guys some product, but I

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Speaker 1: think it was when we first met, and like whoever

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think you are about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beauty. It's called beauty blender. You know the

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Speaker 1: pink egg can makeup sponge. Yes, my mom, my mom

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Speaker 1: made it.

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Speaker 2: I love your face right now.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that is a big deal.

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Speaker 5: We like everything just so you know, that's actually our

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Speaker 5: make it bag. Whatever is given to us. We don't

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Speaker 5: have real makeup. It's like whatever is a gift, that's

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Speaker 5: what's in our bag.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna send her home stuff. You're gonna be glowing.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm so excited right now.

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Speaker 6: But doing all of that stuff, that takes a lot

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Speaker 6: of like a part of our brain and a part

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Speaker 6: of our passion. But there was space left over here.

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Speaker 6: They needed to be filled by something we created that

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Speaker 4: And they also make money for off, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 6: Like we had to do that, and you know, Kat

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Speaker 4: We definitely do not need them. What we do need

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Speaker 6: With that, but they're they realized like we could we

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Speaker 1: So because mat are mostly feeling like how because I

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Speaker 4: Right, it's very nice to think that way.

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Speaker 2: Go to Strange Sex Paid.

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Speaker 6: You know, I haven't been able to catch up on

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Speaker 3: His brother bought it for him as a release gift.

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Speaker 5: The only reason you're not blowing our minds is because

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Speaker 5: Basically, the sex trade industry is such a like hot

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Speaker 4: It's just like going to the dentists to get your

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Speaker 4: I'm a human.

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Speaker 5: How many people have like one night's fans wasted and reddit,

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Speaker 5: You know, my favorites are the people who are like

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Speaker 1: Oh right, it's always it's always that, It's always we

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Speaker 1: the mommy community can be so cruel, you know, like

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Speaker 1: like I was in competition with women or girls, because

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Speaker 1: my mom was like, she's just jealous of you. Oh

447
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Speaker 1: she's jealous of you. Oh she instead of addressing like

448
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Speaker 1: what actually happened here? That's so true and so and

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Speaker 1: so I had to really unlearn that behavior and unlearn

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Speaker 1: that and like I even like I think having a

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Speaker 1: daughter has really helped happen to my femininity and powered

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Speaker 1: by girls and women around me, and especially this has

453
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Speaker 1: been like the thing that kind of just like busted

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Speaker 1: it all open for me was the podcast and like

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Speaker 1: having such an amazing community of women that pour themselves

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Speaker 1: into me and I pour themselves and I pour myself

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Speaker 1: into them. You see all the love that can that

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Speaker 1: can happen. And now having daughters too, like I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't ever want that to be the case. And

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Speaker 1: it's it's just so fucked up. I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: in a circle of like women that are so empowered.

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Speaker 1: But I know generally out there it's not like that.

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Speaker 5: I believe culturally, men and women both do it just

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Speaker 5: to women. Like I was sitting there and it was

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Speaker 5: a bunch of our kids and they were picking apart

466
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Speaker 5: which TikToker was better, and then they literally started to

467
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Speaker 5: make but this one's prettier because of this, and this

468
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Speaker 5: one has better hair, and I don't like that one.

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Speaker 4: And I was just like, why can't you just like

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Speaker 4: both of them? Like they're they're not against each other,

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Speaker 4: you guys are.

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Speaker 5: And I think universally the media puts two whips like

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Speaker 5: Jennifer Aniston and Angelina, and you know, like we constantly

474
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Speaker 5: are putting women like they could never possibly like each

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Speaker 5: other and the guys just kind of like the winner,

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Speaker 5: and it.

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Speaker 4: Drives me insane.

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Speaker 5: And I think that culturally, even in movies, when you

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Speaker 5: watch every movie, there's no mean boys, it's mean girls.

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Speaker 5: When we watch like any TV show, watch the girl characters,

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Speaker 5: and I encourage you with your daughters growing up. In

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Speaker 5: every TV show, especially the Disney shows, there's a girl

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Speaker 5: airhead and there's a mean girl, and two hate each other,

484
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Speaker 5: and the guys are always a one standing by being

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Speaker 5: the kind of the saviors, and it's really depressing to watch.

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Speaker 5: There's not a lot of positive girl friendships. There's one

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Speaker 5: that I found called Alexa and Katie, and they are

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Speaker 5: really supportive best friends of each other.

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Speaker 4: But I have you.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I can't think of another show where there's

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Speaker 5: not a bit girl in the mix.

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Speaker 3: Always always a bitchy girl, and my kids always mimicking her.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, terrible and yeah.

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Speaker 6: I sometimes I actually like, you know, I feel like

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Speaker 6: you know, as a girl growing up too, I could

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Speaker 6: I could sense when you first meet a girl who's

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Speaker 6: like hesitant because she thinks that it's going to be

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Speaker 6: like that, and then then they warm up, you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean, Like I feel like I with girls

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Speaker 6: just I've always been never really had been rymny guy friends,

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Speaker 6: like really just really connected to girls and be friends

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Speaker 6: with girls.

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Speaker 1: But I could often sense a girl that was like

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Speaker 1: hesitant to like open up because.

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Speaker 6: She's thinking gonna be a certain way, yeah, protecting themselves

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Speaker 6: from what they think the bitchiness that might come out.

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Speaker 6: And I still know that feeling when someone's like just

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Speaker 6: hanging back because they're like, is she gonna be nice

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Speaker 6: instead of being like, of course she's gonna be nice.

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Speaker 2: Right right right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just so grateful that we connected with you.

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Speaker 1: It's like you guys didn't know us from a cannap

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Speaker 1: pignt and you guys accepted us with open arms and

514
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Speaker 1: vice versa. I really feel like you are us in Canada,

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Speaker 1: and you are and we are you here? You got Like,

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Speaker 1: if you guys are listening, make sure you follow Catinat.

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Speaker 1: They literally like they do.

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Speaker 5: Have to stop for one second and let you know

519
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Speaker 5: that you guys have a little bit more of a

520
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Speaker 5: fun life than us because you're dope, you're not married

521
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Speaker 5: and you have suddenly he takes your kids sometimes and

522
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Speaker 5: it's like totally okay, you know, like daddy takes it. So,

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Speaker 5: I mean, we are living vicariously through us and if

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Speaker 5: you are not following them, you are missing out.

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Speaker 4: But we do.

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Speaker 1: We do often say like we're so glad we're not married.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no offense because we get to drop our

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Speaker 1: kids off.

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Speaker 5: Please bye, no offense. You actually nailed it. There is

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Speaker 5: zero offense taken.

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Speaker 6: Like it's not like, oh my god, how no, and

532
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Speaker 6: not live with the person you're dating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you could choose, you know what, I'm bored

534
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Speaker 4: of you. Let's move on. Don't you just go to that? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Next?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

537
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Speaker 1: But but like if you check out Catinat, like they

538
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Speaker 1: hang out all the time, just like me and Mila,

539
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Speaker 1: We never fucking leave each other's side.

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Speaker 2: Your husbands both are named.

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Speaker 4: Mark, like they are Yes, it's so cheesy. It's so cheesy.

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Speaker 4: I have to tell you. It's so market it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we live in like this neighborhood that's like things.

544
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Speaker 5: It's just Natalie, we need to go somewhere.

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Speaker 2: We come out, la. Why are Mark and Mark going

546
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Speaker 2: to start throwe podcast?

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Speaker 5: I know they're not very funny, you know, they're not

548
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Speaker 5: very like they're you know they're they're they're just reasonable.

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Speaker 6: You know, they would say reasonable things. You want a

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Speaker 6: reasonable thought.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like yeah, you know they kind of say

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Speaker 4: no a lot, you know what I mean, Like they're

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Speaker 4: just like two. I know we have to go.

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Speaker 6: I had to I just I just just go text

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Speaker 6: my daughter and this I love this about my daughter. Okay,

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Speaker 6: she comes home yesterday she said, I went for extra

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Speaker 6: help before because it's a quarterly semester, so she's finishing

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Speaker 6: her first semester.

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Speaker 4: I had my final exam yesterday, went for extra help. Mom.

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Speaker 6: I am sure I got like at least an eighty percent.

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Speaker 4: She just checks back, she's like sixty percent. Close.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm so happy that she feels safe

563
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Speaker 1: telling you that. Y I would have done everything to

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Speaker 1: hide anything I could from my mom. And now with technology,

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Speaker 1: there's no hiding like you get emails immediately, you can't.

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Speaker 2: You can check on you.

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Speaker 5: You're talking to two girls who got kicked out of

568
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Speaker 5: high school, so I mean the the.

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Speaker 4: Standard is weird.

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Speaker 6: I just don't know if she thinks sixty is really

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Speaker 6: good because I or what.

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Speaker 4: We should have a little chit chat.

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Speaker 5: You girls are seriously amazing and you women, you lady,

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 4: I don't I hate the world.

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Speaker 3: I hate.

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Speaker 4: I don't like the.

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Speaker 5: Word woman, but I think a lot of people do.

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Speaker 5: So I'll say you could tell me you powerful people

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Speaker 5: are amazing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you guys for having me on you guys,

582
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Speaker 1: make sure you go follow Cat and Nat check out

583
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Speaker 1: their podcast Mom truths.

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Speaker 5: LA and Joints with you. You know, I want to

585
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Speaker 5: get high with you too. I feel apparing only those

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Speaker 5: two and then to a podcast.

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Speaker 2: You know you can come. You can come hang out

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Speaker 2: in my backyard. Yes, yes, I love.

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Speaker 4: I haven't. I haven't done it in so long. And

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Speaker 4: I told you I want to roll it like I

591
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Speaker 4: want to roll one.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a lesson.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you less I don't think it's good at it.

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Speaker 2: You got it? Okay.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes they're too tight.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Like, I'm like that. I don't want to ship, you know,

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Speaker 4: but I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 5: I can't wait. I'm saving myself for you. I can't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 2: You'll find me.

603
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Speaker 4: You'll find me naked, running your neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: But oh my god.

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Speaker 2: All right, ladies, we'll have a great guys.

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Speaker 4: So much.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye, it's so well, let's just say yes, run.

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Speaker 2: You saw them so many tamns

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Speaker 3: H