1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck Clay and I have 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: so much for you. Today. We got the media all 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: in on pressuring Florida and governors desantists more specifically to 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: bend the knee. The schoolmask rebellion is underway in some places. 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: Clay was there in Tennessee, just outside of Nashville. There's 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: continuing media coverage of this one right at the center 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: of the fight. How many COVID breakthrough cases are there 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: right now? A very important and provocative question us. The 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: New York governor is saying there will be a mask 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: mandate as the new New York governor when she comes 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: in here in just a matter of days. HOCl Lorie 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: Lightfoot of Chicago says she will increase the police budget. 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 1: This comes after the police turn their back on her 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: in the aftermath of a police shooting of a police officer, 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 1: fatal shooting and then Cobble capital of Afghanistan, maybe in 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: Talaban in hand. Some are saying thirty within thirty days. 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: Some are saying less than that. It's a nightmare. The 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: whole situation there's unraveling. But one thing we need to 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: start with is that there's obviously something happening right now 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: and we're not being told the whole truth. There are 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: people who say they know answers about what the COVID 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: spread is, motive, what's behind it right now. There are 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: people who tell you they can protect you, that if 26 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: you just listen to them, everything will be much much better. 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: But what exactly could the justification be if you look 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: at the data, I mean, what is the rationalization of 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: what's happening here? They don't really have any good answers 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: for you. You look at places like Florida and Texas 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: that right now CNN has Texas, Arizona, Florida push back 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: against COVID mitigation measures they want, particularly Florida. But all 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: these states to cave in right now here is what's 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: going on. The Broward County of Florida school superintendent is 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: saying they're just gonna go against the state mandate here. 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: You know, my core value is students first. No amount 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: of personal financial loss will cause me to go against 38 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: this value. No amount of money can compare to a 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: person's life or the impact that this virus may have 40 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: on a person or their family. Clay, this is where 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: we are now. They're just going to do what they 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: want to do. She's saying that all the governors telling 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: people is parents have choice. Schools can't make kids massed 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: up if their parents don't want them to. And some 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: school districs are saying no, governor, well that's not how 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: our system works. Clay. Yeah, look, I want to I 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: want to give some data. Right. One of the things 48 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: that we try to do on this show is and 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: this is a big story, and I think there's a 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: lot of discussion around it right now. And I understand 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: why people sometimes feel overwhelmed because the way that the 52 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: daily media cycle goes buckets like you're drinking from a 53 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: fire hose. Right If you're just right now tuning in 54 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: to us and you're like, hey, what's going on? What 55 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: I believe we can do is be as honest as 56 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: possible with our audience, with real data, and try to 57 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: interpret that for you. So let me give you a 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: couple of data points. Here. We've got an article up 59 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: at OutKick right now. I'd encourage you to checkout OutKick 60 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: dot com, the site I run past year. According to 61 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: the CDC, there has been There have been forty thousand, 62 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety six kids eleven and under die. Okay, 63 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: that is an awful story. That is a tragedy for 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: each of those parents. I've got three kids. Everybody knows 65 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: once you become a parent, you have two primary fears, 66 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: one that something should could happen to your kid, and 67 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: two that you might not be there to raise them 68 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: to adulthood. That's every single parent, no matter your race, 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: no matter your gender, everything. So these are all tragedies. Right. 70 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Forty thousand, three hundred ninety six kids eleven and under 71 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: have died since the start of twenty twenty. Fewer than 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: two hundred of those deaths are from COVID. That means 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: ninety nine point five percent roughly of all deaths that 74 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: have occurred in children eleven and under are from something 75 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: other than COVID. That's a big deal to me because 76 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I think it ties in with the fear, because the 77 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: fear really is about kids and masking and everything else. 78 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: So I walked my kids buck to school this morning, 79 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: my two youngest, my first grader, and my fifth grader. 80 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: They've now implemented a mask mandate in the area where 81 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I live, but they're not really enforcing it. Everybody was 82 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: walking in. I would say the vast majority of parents 83 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: their kids did not have masks on. These are not parents, 84 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: by the way, that are making irrational decisions because they 85 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: want to risk their children's lives. I think this is 86 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: important about parent voice. I care more about my kids 87 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: health and safety than I do anything going on in 88 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: my life. And I look at all the data and 89 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: know that wearing a mask is not making them safer. 90 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's what the vast majority of parents 91 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: out there are doing. And Buck. Unfortunately, you know how, 92 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: we're going to be covered because we already saw at 93 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: CNN is doing hit pieces based on the event that 94 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: I went to. We played you yesterday the clip of 95 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: my speaking at the school board meeting, and CNN today 96 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: this morning, Ali our producer Texas and says, hey, CNN 97 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: has got video where they're trying to make everybody thousand 98 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: or more parents who showed up like their Neanderthals, who 99 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: who don't care about science. They're they're your mask insurrectionists. Clay. 100 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: That's actually that's what That's what there what's actually happening 101 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: right now. That's the circumstance. That's the situation, Blake clip one. 102 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: They ended up voting in favor of a temporary temporary 103 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: mask commandate that would only apply to the elementary school 104 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: students there. And what you saw after this meeting in 105 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: the parking lot was the anger and frankly, the vitriol 106 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: boiling over what supporters or I should say, opponents of 107 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: masks lashing out at the supporters of masks and even 108 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: heckling people walking out of that meeting wearing masks. We 109 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: know who you are, we will find you. We also 110 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: heard someone in the background saying, I am a parent, 111 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: So these are parents heckling other parents. Erica, Oh, when 112 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: an example they're setting it is disturbing to put it mildly, 113 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: play the world's smallest violin and pass around the soy 114 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: milk clay. You were there here. CNN is trying to 115 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: make it seem like anyone who shows up at a 116 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: meeting like this to voice their opinion about what Ireland. 117 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: You know, Tucker did on his show last that on Fox, 118 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: the study that the Irish people look at the day 119 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: that they've said it's basically child abuse. Okay, you're making 120 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: kids uncomfortable causing anxiety. It does not keep them safe. 121 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: For obviously people should be upset about that. But the 122 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: hysterics that think, you know that little Timmy or little 123 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: Susie is gonna die if they don't have some stupid 124 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: piece of cloth over their face all day, they're the 125 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: barbarians who are threatening people. Now, that's what they're saying. Yeah, 126 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: and this is emblematic of how unfair reporting can be. Right. 127 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: We talked about the mostly peaceful protests that CNN covered 128 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: for months, the BLM riots that were taking place all 129 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: over the country, and what did they say, Even the 130 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: people who were burning down police buildings, who were trying 131 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: to burn down courthouses, they were saying, oh, that's a 132 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: small minority of the protesters. A couple of people are 133 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: really fired up as these people who have gotten a 134 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: mask mandate put in place walk outside of the building 135 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: and they tell them, hey, we think there should be 136 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: consequences for what has happened here. And this, to me 137 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: is indicative of what happens when your representatives. And I 138 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: had a buddy call me and I'm curious what you 139 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: think about this buck that had a buddy called me, 140 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: and he said, you know what, I've never paid attention 141 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: to who's on the school board before. I mean, that's 142 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: what he said, candidly. He's got four kids, and he said, 143 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: I've never cared. You know, I pay attention to who 144 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: I vote for governor, I pay attention to who I 145 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: vote for Senate, all those things. He said, I've never 146 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: thought about the school board. But what this showed me 147 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: is the school board, the lowest level of the democratic process, 148 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: often can have the most impact. And I bet most 149 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: of you out there listening to us right now, I'll 150 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: but put myself in this category. I didn't know who 151 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: my school board representative was. I never really thought about 152 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: it when I went in to vote. I'm gonna care 153 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: now because they are not reflecting in our neighborhood and 154 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: in our county. They aren't reflecting the democratic values of 155 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: the people. And so when you do that, you create anger, 156 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: and you create discord and distrust. And that's what we 157 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: saw in the wake of that meeting. It's gonna get 158 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: worse everybody, unfortunately, the country. It's gonna get worse because 159 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: you already you have more of the dominoes falling, You 160 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: have the Governor of New York incoming Governor of New 161 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: York Hocle saying going to be a universal statewide mask 162 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: mandate in all schools in New York. Does anybody think 163 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: that California's, you know, not not going to make sure 164 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: that they the Kentucky just did it, Buck, Kentucky just 165 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: made a universal mask mandate for everybody in the school. 166 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: So this is it's even hard to keep up because 167 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: these things are changing day in and dad in all 168 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: these states. But you're looking at this and what they 169 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: really want is Florida, because Florida is that's a beacon 170 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: of freedom, has been the beacon all along of we did. 171 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: They did not lock down, They did not go to 172 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: that place that they were told they had to or 173 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: else it was going to be an experiment in death 174 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: and all this other stuff that they said. Now, what 175 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: they're desperate to make sure happens is that Florida can't 176 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: be the control group because if you have schools in 177 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 1: Florida without masks and all these other states with mandatory 178 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: masks for children, that will be able to do a 179 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: very clean comparison of whether or not this stuff matters. 180 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I would bet a large sum 181 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: of money on if we can get to this place 182 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: where we see what the control group of Florida says, 183 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: we'll know that this is all stupid and the people 184 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: that are pushing this are hysterical loons. They want to 185 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: avoid that at all costs. So all they need is 186 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: Broward County a few others to have. If you have 187 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: a patchwork system, it's going to be well. The data 188 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: is muddled. We can't see some schools had at some schools, 189 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: didn't you know. We need to have some places that 190 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: hold the line against this madness. And I'm worried the 191 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: pressure right now is gaining so much. In part of it, Clay, 192 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: is how are we having when we have what is 193 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: it over one hundred and one hundred and ninety million 194 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: people in the US have gotten at least one dose 195 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: of this vaccine. One hundred and sixty three point nine 196 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: million people have been fully vaccinated, and we're being told 197 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: that there are some states that have, you know, fifty percent, 198 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: sixty percent vaccination rates that are all gosh, the delta 199 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: varian is gonna It's only possible for this to be 200 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: as bad as it is right now if there are 201 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: some things that they're not telling us yet. But we're 202 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: gonna find out soon like this vaccine or the vaccines 203 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: where off even faster than was anticipated. Which when you 204 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: hear doctor Anthony Fauci saying, you're gonna everyone's gonna he 205 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: said it today, Clay, Everyone's gonna need a booster. And 206 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. These are quotes from Axios that 207 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: I saw this morning, number one story Biden's COVID fear 208 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: fading vaccines, and it says here, surprising new research, not 209 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: surprising to people who've been paying attention to this show, 210 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: shows the effectiveness of COVID vaccines. I'm reading directly from 211 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: Axios fading faster than expected, raising fears inside the Biden 212 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: administration about the health and messaging consequences for Americans. I'm 213 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: reading directly from Axios, and this is a senior Biden 214 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: official that is not named. But the quote here is 215 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: I think everybody believes this wanes over time. The question 216 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: is to what extent. Nobody wants to be behind the 217 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: eight ball here. We want to catch it before there's 218 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: an issue, and that's why there is very intense scrutiny. 219 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: They're looking at Israel, Buck, they are looking at England. 220 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: Israel is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, 221 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: and the overall hospitalization rates are skyrocketing. There is very 222 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: and we talked to Alex Berenson last week. A lot 223 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: of people criticize Alex Barnson, They try to cancel him, 224 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: but the data doesn't lie right and ultimately the data 225 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: is telling us there are major issues with these vaccines 226 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: and how long they last. 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In appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 258 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: I am Clay Travis. He is Buck Sexton. Clay Travis 259 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show we are trying to have one 260 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: of the last places you can have an intelligent conversation 261 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: about data, risk analysis and everything else, says the continuing 262 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: COVID madness spreads across the country. And I was talking 263 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: about the mask related situations, and CNN did this morning 264 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: a story ripping the parents who had shown up for 265 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: the school board meeting that I spoke at on Tuesday night. 266 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: We talked about it and played the clip. On Wednesday, 267 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: actually went on with Tucker and had a good conversation 268 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: with him, and he did a great job. Tucker Carlson 269 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: did last night on Fox News laying out exactly more 270 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: arguments for why masking children is pure madness. But CNN 271 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: and you know this, Buck, they are trying to portray 272 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: everyone who is opposed to masking children as if they 273 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: are lunatics. And I will just say this, thousand people 274 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: showed up, almost all of them very respectful, making the 275 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: arguments that they hold. Dear, you know how this work, 276 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: because Buck, they find one or two people and you 277 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: use them as a stand in for arguing that everybody 278 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: is irrational and deranged. Who is in favor of kids 279 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: not wearing masks? Yeah? I remember when he used to 280 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: cover the Occupy Wall Street protests back when I started, 281 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Oh ye at the Blaze. I mean, there were people 282 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: that I could have interviewed and put on and put 283 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: on air that we're talking about, like the lizard space 284 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: lords that were actually running walls tread and the right 285 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: and the flying saucers, and but I realized, Okay, that's 286 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: not really a fair representation of the overall Marxist lunacy here. 287 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: So I'll go to somebody who's actually going to talk about, 288 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, how money does grow on trees and AOC 289 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: actually understands economics, although she wasn't an office at that point, 290 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: but you get what I'm saying. Um, I gotta tell 291 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: you this. This clip, they have clay of the guy. 292 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: We we gotta play because otherwise we're not. You know, 293 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: this is this is now run and hide. You have 294 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: all these parrots, all these parents who are just saying, hey, 295 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: stop abusing our kids with your anti science nonsense. And 296 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: this is what CNN wants people to take away. Everybody's 297 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: taking notes. Buddy, keep dellow, Flood, put your mask. Do 298 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: we know who you are? We know who you? Calm, 299 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: keep it calm, no, no mask. We're on these guys side. There, No, no, 300 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: they're not, they're not on Please on her side, please 301 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: her side, calm down, all right. So they find one 302 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: or two people who are fired up, and look, I 303 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: get it, because you're not having your were cursing or anything. 304 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: Don't threatening anybody. I mean it was It's not even 305 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: that bad in the grand scheme of things. But they're 306 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: gonna play that over and over. And you know what 307 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: already happened. Buck, One of my buddies sent me the 308 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: Daily Mail and he was like, hey, are these your quotes? 309 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: And the Daily Mail has those guys quotes and they 310 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: have my picture up yep, like it was me speaking, 311 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: and see you are you are? You are? You're now 312 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: a leader of the mask Insurrection. I mean, yes, I 313 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: have to be the unmasked bandit and keep it stealthy 314 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: here in New York because I'm completely outnumbered. But you 315 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: can actually lead lead a rebellion interest solution that would win. 316 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: We've got the revolutionary army that would actually win. I 317 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt about this. We got so 318 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: much to get into as we continue to unpack today's show. 319 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you spending time with US. I gotta 320 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: tell you, if you're with AT and T, Verizon or 321 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: T Mobile, you're paying too much for your cell service. 322 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: Switch to pure Talk and pay just thirty dollars a month. 323 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: Pure Talk they are a cell phone company and they 324 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: can say you up to eight hundred dollars a year. 325 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: My own son has pure Talk. He loves it. It's 326 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic for him. 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Welcome 337 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: back to the Clay Travis and Bucks Sexton Show. We're 338 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: just trying to get to and this is Buck. We're 339 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: trying to get to the bottom of what's really going 340 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: on right now with there's the code but policy stuff 341 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: and there's the actual virus. And as you know, the 342 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: people who say they have all the answers are wrong 343 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: over and over again. They don't care. We will continue 344 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: to dive into this, including the possibility that I mean 345 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: Fauci saying boosters for everybody today are inevitable, which to 346 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: me indicates this isn't. We have gone in the span 347 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: of just over three months from get the shot and 348 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: you're done, to get endless shots and mask up, mask 349 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: up your kids, get ready for possible lockdowns, and oh, 350 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: carry around your vaccination papers with you. What an amazing 351 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: change from say, May of this year to now. But 352 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: we're also are going to talk to you about the 353 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: latest in Chicago with Lori Lightfoot after the cops turn 354 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: their backs on her and the aftermath of a homicide 355 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: of a police officer. She's now saying she's gonna increase 356 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: funding and we're gonna have to talk about Afghanistan as well, 357 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: because it is it's it's collapsing even fast we even 358 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: officially leave Buck, we're not even getting out of the country, 359 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: and we may have lost the whole thing to the 360 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: tale And they're basically telling everybody in the US. They're 361 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: they're saying everyone in the US embassy. Americans get out. 362 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean that we're at the This is starting to 363 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: look like run for the exits. This is gonna get ugly, 364 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: and we can't guarantee any American safety that's still left 365 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: in the country. You know that, That's what this is 366 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: looking like right now. They just seized Condahar, or at 367 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: least they've gone into that. They've made it to Martyrs Square, 368 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: which is kind of like the Times Square of Condahar, 369 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: if you will. They've gotten into the center of the city, 370 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, they're still fighting, maybe over who's 371 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: in full control, but they've already gotten Condahar. They've taken 372 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: more than a half dozen provincial capitals. They control more 373 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: than half the country. They just seized Gosni, which is 374 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: just to the south of Kabble and is close enough 375 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: on Cobble's periphery that it starts to become a access 376 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: choke point to the capital city. So I mean the 377 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: the Boa constrictor of the Taliban, if you will. The 378 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: coils are getting tighter around the throats of the Afghan 379 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: people with every passing hour, and I mean, it's just 380 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: stunning that McClay. We've been we've been training the Afghan 381 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: military and Air Force, and we've we've spent almost all 382 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: in this country and it's not gonna last the summer 383 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: after we've said we're not going to hold this thing 384 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: together anymore. What's amazing is now now the argument between 385 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: people seems to be for those who still make this argument, 386 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: and there are some people I like in media who 387 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: still say this stuff. Well, obviously we shouldn't have left 388 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: because we could have held it together with three thousand 389 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: troops forever. Other people look at this and say this 390 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: is this is as much as we could accomplish in 391 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: terms of stability operations after twenty years. I don't know 392 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: what the right answer is in Afghanistan, right. I think 393 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm somewhere in the middle where it's almost like a 394 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there who end up 395 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: getting married to people that they shouldn't get married too 396 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: because they dated for a long time, right, And I 397 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: feel like if you say we have to stay in Afghanistan, 398 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: you're kind of like those people, because then you're going 399 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: to get divorced eventually and you should have never gotten married. 400 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: But you said, well, we spent all this time together. 401 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of the logical next step, and it's a 402 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: marriage that you know is doomed to fail at some point. 403 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's what's going on with Afghanistan, 404 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: where even the people who are arguing we should stay 405 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: there are primarily arguing we should stay there because we've 406 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: stayed there as long as we have, and because we've 407 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: invested so much time and money in it, and it's 408 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: a moment that you leave it immediately collapses. It proves 409 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: that basically we wasted a trillion dollars there. I mean 410 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: a trillion dollars. We talk a lot about the Infrastructure 411 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: Bill and everything else. We could have spent a trillion 412 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: dollars a lot better ways in the United States than 413 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: what we ended up spending in Afghanistan. You can go 414 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: back and there was a book that I remember I 415 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: was actually told to read even before Clay I joined 416 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: the CIA, by Michael Schoyer, Imperial Hubris, and this was 417 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: published back in what two thousand and four, and which 418 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: he was just saying, if you look at the if 419 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: you look at the history of Afghanistan, all the attempts 420 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: in the past to do exactly what the US had 421 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: decided by two thousand and four was the mission set 422 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: which the chance of this succeeding if you believe that 423 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: history matters, was almost zero. But we had, you know, 424 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: four star general after four star general, diplomat after diplomat, 425 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: people who were special envoys, and you know, at the 426 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: very top. And I saw this up close and in 427 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: person when I was there. If you want to get promoted, 428 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: and you want to get the big book deal, you 429 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: want to be on the board of Raytheon, you want 430 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: to get invited to the Aspen Ideas Festival, you had 431 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: to be a person in the Afghanistan context who was 432 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: going to say, oh, we figured it out. Now, we 433 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: figured it out in two thousand and eight, we figured 434 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: it out in two thousand and eleven. We've you know 435 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: that they would keep on saying, now we have the 436 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: winning formula. Because Clay, the person who comes back from 437 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: being in charge of Afghanistan in the last twenty years 438 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: or so telling everybody this is a society that, in 439 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: terms of infrastructure, cohesiveness, development and history, has almost no 440 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: chance of being a coherent and durable state. That person, 441 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, when you have the whole military industrial complex 442 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: focused in Afghanistan, they don't get promoted, they don't get elevated. 443 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: They're not they're not treated like a hero. And so 444 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: I think that the echo chamber effect he was very real. 445 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: By the one more point on this was just that 446 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: Obama when he came in, and so I was in 447 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: the CIA in two thousand and eight and in the 448 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: transition in two thousand and nine, when Obama took office, 449 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: Clay there was a hole. There was a seismic shift 450 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: even in the intelligence community from Okay, well, Iraq was 451 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: the bad Bush war. Afghanistan is the good Obama war. 452 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: And no one ever stopped to think, We'll hold on 453 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: a second, why is that true and what does that 454 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: even really mean for right now and for the mission 455 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: set that we're facing. Domestic politics was driving it. I 456 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: think the only way we could have gotten out of 457 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: Afghanistan and declared victory is if we had done it 458 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: immediately after killing Osama bin Laden, right, because ultimately he 459 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: was the reason to go into Afghanistan. That's at least 460 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: for people out there, whether you buy it or not. 461 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: And I know he wasn't in Afghanistan, but he was 462 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: being protected by Pakistan and a Bata bad but that 463 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: would have at least been I think narratively a way 464 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: to declare victory and leave, right, but they would have 465 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: had the exact same, exact circumstance. Now we're leaving and 466 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: we don't even have the illusion of being able to 467 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: declare victory. At least then you could have sold the 468 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: idea of we accomplished the mission, accomplished banner and the 469 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: whole thing. And and right now what we see is 470 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: that it's just the American people. I mean, the problem 471 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: with this is, or should said the problem, but the 472 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: reality of it is that Trump wanted us to get 473 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: out Trump voters. I was one of them. I advocated 474 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: for us leaving when Trump was in office. I thought 475 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: that we should draw down. So you know, we can't 476 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: forget what we thought was a better strategy for America, 477 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: for an America first foreign policy a year ago or 478 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: two years ago, just because Joe Biden as president now 479 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: and that all said, though the people who were advocating 480 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: for withdrawal all thought this was probably gonna happen. It 481 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, withdraw it's gonna be fine. It was 482 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: We've tried. It's up to think. Therepidity has surprised some people, 483 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: but the end results, yeah, they I mean the the 484 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: ICs and by the way, for every IC assessment that 485 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: gets you know, reported on to the press, whether it's 486 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: open source or someone's kind of leaking the executive summary 487 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: or something. For every one summary, I mean for every 488 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: one Intelligence community paper Clay that assesses these things, there's 489 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: like hundreds of other one. You know, there's a so 490 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: much people think that it speaks within one with one voice. 491 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: I think they're even seventeen Intel agencies now, I was 492 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: sixteen when I was in. I mean, they're expanding them. 493 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: They're all fighting with each other all the time. It's 494 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: a mess. Uh. They thought though, that you had at 495 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: least once we drew down six six months was kind 496 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: of the that was the consensus. Yeah, and we're not 497 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: even we're not even at the draw down, and it's 498 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: looking like, I mean, we're gonna be airlifting people with 499 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: helicopters off the rooftop of the embassy in Cobble. It's 500 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: kind of what it feels like right now. It's gonna 501 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: look just like what happened when Vietnam collapsed, right, I mean, 502 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: there's going to be that element. And that's why I say, narratively, 503 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: you're correct that the end result was going to be 504 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: the same no matter what. But I think Americans, if 505 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: we had said we got ben Lauden, let's leave at least, 506 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: then there is a idea that we might have had 507 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: some success. So I think the I think the Obama 508 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: administration in that case was also was also in a 509 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: more difficult spot to do that because remember Obama surged 510 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand troops to Afghanistan. You're gonna surge 511 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna pull out precipitate. I remember he 512 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: did the he announced and this goes right to the 513 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: Afghanistan good war, Iraq bad war, a concept that the 514 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: Democrats were all invested in, including by the way, Joe Biden. 515 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: He was a big you know, Iraq bat Afghanistan good. 516 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: Joe Biden also wanted to cut Iraq into three separate countries, 517 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: and then people who knew Iraq had to explain to 518 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: him the lines that you would draw, like go through 519 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: Kirk Cole, the different rosal and oil fields, and yeah, 520 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: it's not just like you sit there, you draw a 521 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: line on a map, and everyone's gonna be okay with this. 522 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: But but you had the Obama administration surge troops there, 523 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: and also you had had the withdrawal, you had the 524 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: withdrawal from Iraq, turning into the ISIS and ISIS was 525 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: JV and you start to look at all these things together. 526 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: The biggest and most obvious failure of the Obama administration. Okay, 527 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: I can't say that because everyon's gonna go out me 528 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: and say, oh, there's a different Okay. One of the 529 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: biggest and most obvious failures of the Obama administration, top 530 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: to bottom, was on the foreign policy front, where every 531 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: challenge that they faced, starting in two thousand and nine, 532 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: they made worse. Every area where there was violence and 533 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: conflict deteriorated essentially over the course of Obama's presidency, most 534 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: notably Syria and Libya, but also Rock and Afghanistan and 535 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: name a place. So, wow, we actually did do Afghanistan. 536 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: Right now, Clay, we'll come back. I mean, we've got people, 537 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: we got phone calls in right now about both the 538 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: COVID madness and Afghanistan. I feel like we could want 539 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: to rack and stack some of our Yeah, let's get 540 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: let's let some of the callers way in, and then 541 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: I want to start at the top of the second hour. 542 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: Why is why are cases surging in Florida and why 543 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: is Florida so important right now? That's a big discussion 544 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: I think we need to get into. I love that 545 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: tweet to set you from We gotta give Florida is 546 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: Stalingrad right now. If they get Florida to fall, we 547 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: all turned into Australia. I'll give credit to that guy 548 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: in a second. It's a brilliant tweet, all right. We 549 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: got a testimonial here from Melanie about rough greens. She 550 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: writes in from a Daresville, Georgia. I was very skeptical 551 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: about trying rough greens. I was sure my dog would 552 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: need it. Boy was I wrong. My dog loves rough greens. 553 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: Now he only eats the food I put rough greens on. 554 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: He got so much more energy. 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That's Roughgreens dot com, slash Clay 571 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: and Buck, Roughgreens dot com slash Clay and Buck. Walk 572 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: back and Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Thursday edition of 573 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: the program. A lot of you want to weigh into 574 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: what we've been talking about so far throughout the course 575 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: of the show. Encourage you as always go subscribe to 576 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: the podcast. You can search out my name, Clay Travis, 577 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: you can search out Buck Sexton. Lots of you doing that. 578 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: We appreciate all fifty states, over four hundred of the 579 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: affiliate stations out there. And let's start. Let's see, let's 580 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: start with William in Raleigh, North Carolina. William what you 581 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: got for us. Hey, guys, thanks so much Roy, you do. 582 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: We appreciate you taking up the mantle here. Thank you. 583 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: Just what I wanted to discuss was how soon, especially 584 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: after this axios that she just talked about, will the 585 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: administration begin to blame Trump at warp speed for not 586 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: getting the vaccination efficacy that they feel like they should 587 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: have had and why this is wearing all, Why the 588 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: third booster, the potential fourth booster shots that they have 589 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: been talking about. I just feel like that that is 590 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: coming because these guys, nothing sticks, nothing they do is 591 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: their fault. I just feel like some of this stuff 592 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: is getting ready to come down with this administration and 593 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: how all of this is going in doctor Fauci. There's 594 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: just a lot out there. Then I think they're gonna 595 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: try and turn this thing around on the whole Trump 596 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: process again. William, Can I just say, I think your 597 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: analysis here is really astute, and I think that you're 598 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: right about how the narrative, the media narrative, and the 599 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: Democrat narrative will shift very rapidly if we get to 600 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: the point where vaccine fading and I don't know what 601 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: we really you know, the sort of vaccines fading over time. 602 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: We'll have to come up with a term for this, 603 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, because it's not the same as vaccine failure, 604 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: which it doesn't work. I'm not saying that, no one's 605 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: saying that, but vaccine fading over time that seems to 606 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: be I mean, why do we need boosters if that's 607 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: not the case? The old unit the fastest. I think 608 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: you're I think it's likely that there will be a 609 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: Trump rush this thing through, Clay. I think you will 610 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: hear that. I think I think William's correct. I think 611 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: he's right too, And we've talked about that off the year, 612 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: because sometimes we talk about off the air. Hey, let's 613 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: play this forward several months, right, nobody's got a perfect 614 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: crystal ball. But yes, they will start to argue that 615 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: they move too quickly. And again, this is one of 616 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: the flaws I think that is the most pronounced of 617 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: the CDC in general. They have created They've created an 618 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: expectation that the vaccine caused saves all problems, solves all problems, 619 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: and it's going to lead to COVID zero and that's 620 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: not in any way reflective from the data itself. And 621 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: I think that disconnect blows up very quickly on people, 622 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: Candice in Wisconsin, what you got for us? Hi, congratulation 623 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: on a show, guys. I became a Conservative during the 624 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: first year of Obama's presidency at the recommendation my late father. 625 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: He told me to start listening to a radio was 626 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: saying to rush because I knew something was really wrong 627 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: with this man. And so I've been a volunteer in 628 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: the GOP for quiet some time, about fifteen years. And 629 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm really really upset to see this infrastructure bill coming 630 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: so close to passing because i think it's the hammer 631 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: to implement a lot of tyranny that the Democrat Party 632 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: and states have not been able to go through with 633 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: because they don't have the money and the foot soldiers 634 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: to do. And I'm very angry that um Am Radio 635 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: hasn't done a better job framing this for people and 636 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: keeping this bill from going through. We spent way too 637 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: much time on COVID hysteria for a year and a 638 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: half and it's been a distraction. Also, It's been a 639 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: lot of things, but it has also been a distraction 640 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: from other things that they're doing, and we should spend 641 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: a lot more time on this infrastructure and what was 642 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: in it. And I think it went through because we 643 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: didn't spend enough time on it. And I mean, I 644 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: think it's going to go through, all right, Candice, Well 645 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna pass. It passed sixty nine to thirty. So 646 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: I understand people can be upset with the infrastructure bill. 647 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: So we talked a lot about the infrastructure bill yesterday, 648 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: and I think the biggest takeaway is it's a gamble 649 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: by Mitch McConnell that Joe Mansion and Kristen Cinema, two 650 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: of the moderate Democratic senators, are going to be willing 651 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: to dial back in a big way the three point 652 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: five trillion dollar budget bill. That's the gamble that they 653 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: are making for College. Just wanted to vote for stuff 654 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: that he thinks will be popular and well. And he 655 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: also was in favor of infrastructure under Trump. The infrastructure 656 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: was I don't think this is a tough I don't 657 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: think this is a tough sell for a lot of 658 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: those people in the GEO. But I like this. Republicans 659 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: like to spend money too, and they like to buy 660 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: sneakers too. Yeah, And I think it is a good point. 661 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: But I think the risk is what is going to 662 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: happen with Cinema and mansion. We spend a lot of 663 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: time on that. Okay, why does Florida matter so much? 664 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: And why is to use the example it the Stalin 665 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: Grad of the COVID, the COVID resistance. We're gonna talk 666 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: about that, and Michael Watson was the guy. By the way, 667 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna get Michael. Michael Watson on Twitter wrote that, Yeah, yeah, 668 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: you sent that to me, and I do think it's 669 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: a good analogy. By the way, I'm headed to Florida tomorrow. 670 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time down there. We're gonna 671 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: talk about what exactly is going on in Florida, why 672 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: it's so significant, and why Ron de Santis has emerged 673 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: as maybe the default battleground, the leader of the anti 674 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: Biden resistance, all of that and more when we come back. 675 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us Florida. It's 676 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: about you're listening to Clay Travis said Buck Sexton fund 677 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: the EIB Network