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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast, Nice rack An, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of Around the NFL. My name is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hansis and uh I come to you from a virtual

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Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal. How

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Speaker 1: are we pretty rare that a money drop take takes

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Speaker 1: you aback? And after after ten years, it takes a lot.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen that expression on Dan's face. Where what

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Speaker 1: is the origin story? You say, Nice rack? There's there's

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Speaker 1: often inside jokes that I don't remember that came up,

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Speaker 1: and I guess it's right. Um, I feel like that

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Speaker 1: was directed at someone else. That would be the end

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Speaker 1: of the podcast, but we're okay. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it means. I feel maybe an insult. You know, you

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Speaker 1: got to get into you know, training camp is gonna

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Speaker 1: start for everybody. You know, I'm gonna have to hit

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Speaker 1: that peloton. You're gonna have to really start to zone

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Speaker 1: in for week one. Maybe work on the rack. Mark

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Speaker 1: Marks zoned in right now, Dan, I didn't take it

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Speaker 1: as a bod comment about you. I think I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure what it was referring to. It was murky and confusing.

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Speaker 1: Well let's just let it pass then and we'll dig

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Speaker 1: in and maybe fire Graver after the show. I don't

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Speaker 1: have the power to remove Graver from the commissioner chair.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, the producer. I would get a three fourths vote,

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Speaker 1: though we could. We could do that another mark, any ideas,

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Speaker 1: marks like finally I outnumbered, we outnumber them. Now, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Thursday edition. I am still in Texas. Um,

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Speaker 1: the boys are still in California. Greg is heading to

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Speaker 1: mother Japan in days now. And what what a moment

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Speaker 1: how many miles will separate? Well, how far is California,

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Speaker 1: But but I'm going, oh, just wait until the flight delays.

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Speaker 1: I ended up a day late to Texas. It's really fun.

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Speaker 1: What's going on in the airline industry? Hey? The the

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Speaker 1: day yesterday for me was fun. I went to Putters

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Speaker 1: get back to you on that mark. What's going on

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Speaker 1: for you and uh in your neck of the woods? Well?

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Speaker 1: One question, are you getting recognized, um, you know at

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Speaker 1: the golf course, UM in eateries on the street. Are

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Speaker 1: people kind of you know, flagging you down just to

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Speaker 1: say thank you for the content, for the work that

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Speaker 1: But this very much is UM college football heaven Um.

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about a little more Texas football

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Speaker 1: It'll be great. They'll be great conversations. There's no escape. Now.

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Speaker 1: Commissioner Roger Goodell testified Wednesday before members of Congress at

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Speaker 1: on him. So I responded to be one of the

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Speaker 1: more enjoyable characters of that era. Oh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: he got to be one of the better undrafted UH

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Speaker 1: free agents of the nineties period. You're an undrafted guy

432
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Speaker 1: and you end up starting in the league for twelve years,

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Speaker 1: start a hundred and forty eight games, win a ring

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Speaker 1: UH with the Ravens. You meant to be part of

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Speaker 1: that broadcast team Kenny, Moose and Goose. I just that

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Speaker 1: that trio. It's always like in my brain it was

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Speaker 1: Kenny Albert Moose and Goose. They were either the number

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Speaker 1: two team or the number three team, and he sort

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Speaker 1: of did this thing. Not many people have replaced it

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Speaker 1: where he was on the sideline, but he was part

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Speaker 1: of the broadcast the whole time, and just saying goofy

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Speaker 1: stuff and and I'm with you on the hard knocks.

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Speaker 1: Memories like I don't remember that much as a player,

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Speaker 1: Ozzie knew some um brought up that he's one of

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Speaker 1: the best run stoppers in Ravens history, and and actually

446
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Speaker 1: that sort of role has continued throughout Ravens history under

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Speaker 1: Tony Sarah Gooso with a big time run stopper in

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Speaker 1: the middle. Now it's Brandon Williams. It's like Hellode not

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Speaker 1: of different guys like that. But that Hard Knocks to

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Speaker 1: me was maybe I'm not remembering well, but I just

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Speaker 1: feel like that was the best one because they sort

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Speaker 1: of didn't realize what it was and it was big

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Speaker 1: time players being totally loose. They got away with a lot,

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Speaker 1: they allowed everything, And if if you're a big enough

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Speaker 1: dork that you would want to go back and watch

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Speaker 1: a Hard Knocks, that would be like my number one

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Speaker 1: recommendation because it's just like a different NFL. And Sarah

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Speaker 1: Goosa was was maybe the star of it, the number

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Speaker 1: one person he was. I mean it was I think

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Speaker 1: Brian Billick thought he was the star because I've never

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Speaker 1: seen a man carry himself with more irrational confidence. Um

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Speaker 1: as the head coach of that team after the two

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Speaker 1: thousand Super Bowl season. I just remember him laying in

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Speaker 1: a hammock at one point was like a Bahama you know,

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Speaker 1: Panama Jack had on just like I Am the King

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Speaker 1: of the World, but Saragosa. That wasn't even his best

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Speaker 1: HBO vehicle, Greggy. He also had a four episode run

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Speaker 1: on The Sopranos right late in that series where he

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Speaker 1: played an enforcer named Frankie Cortez, So you know he

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Speaker 1: had that. He had all sorts of different angles and

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Speaker 1: he um. He also yeh, the what did you call it?

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Speaker 1: The Moose, Goose and Loose? What was it again? It

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Speaker 1: is Kenny Moose and Goose that the Blue team was

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Speaker 1: a team for a while. I feel like we used to,

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Speaker 1: or at least I used to have some fun at

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Speaker 1: the expense of Goose with his role on the on

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Speaker 1: those telecasts, so we're like cut to Goose and then

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Speaker 1: he'd be the way I always remember it, he'd either

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Speaker 1: like be behind the field goal post or like halfway

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Speaker 1: up the tabel and they just throw it to Goose

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Speaker 1: and he'd say something Goose esque and then he would

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Speaker 1: come back to the telecast. Um. But yes, definitely a

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Speaker 1: memorable uh figure. I feel like West had strong opinions

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Speaker 1: on Kenny Moose and Goose if he went back to

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Speaker 1: like our two thousand, fourteen thirteen, it's like we have

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Speaker 1: been we have been doing this a long time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they were that that I understand that a nice nickname,

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Speaker 1: but they were critique to times. I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: part of it. Wasn't everyone's cup of tea on air,

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Speaker 1: but that you And one more note on Jalen Ferguson.

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Speaker 1: Uh great nickname in college sack Daddy Awesome. He holds

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Speaker 1: the FBS FBS record for career sacks with and wow,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. I know, I mean that that, you know,

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Speaker 1: that is sad. And he was going to have you know,

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Speaker 1: when I did the projected starters. Not that the football

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Speaker 1: side of it is that important, but you know, he

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Speaker 1: he had an opportunity because of injuries and just how

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Speaker 1: their roster is. He was probably penciled into to start

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Speaker 1: this year. They've been good at kind of developing that

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Speaker 1: position and this was his time to step up. And

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Speaker 1: just it's tragic. I think everyone there, his teammates and

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Speaker 1: everyone were just stunned. There. It was out of nowhere, alright,

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Speaker 1: And finally in the news arch manning the next Manning,

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Speaker 1: there was the father. Was he too Lane? Was he

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Speaker 1: too Lane? Guy? Archie Archie was that old miss. And

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Speaker 1: then with sts you know, that's still one of the

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Speaker 1: great saints of all time. Um, there haven't been that

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Speaker 1: many that have topped him. And then there was Peyton,

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest to ever strap it up, multiple

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Speaker 1: m vps, a couple of Super Bowl wins. And then

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Speaker 1: Eli who had a couple of Super Bowl wins of

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Speaker 1: his own at Greg Rosenthal's expense directly and one of

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Speaker 1: the great German ever. And now here comes arch son

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Speaker 1: of Cooper Cooper, who as another brother from the Manning

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Speaker 1: family that people thought had a chance to be a

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Speaker 1: truly great pro but I believe it was a neck

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Speaker 1: injury that kept Cooper from following his NFL dreams. But

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Speaker 1: here is his son, who is a blue absolute blue

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Speaker 1: chip quarterback. He ends up um committing to Texas over

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Speaker 1: other suitors that included Georgia, Alabama, l s U, Clemson,

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Speaker 1: and Virginia. Now we are not your source for college football,

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Speaker 1: h insight, but Justin Graver is an of Texan As.

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Speaker 1: I sit in Texas right now. Like I said at

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Speaker 1: the top of the show, they love their college football.

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Speaker 1: And I could picture a young Graver just rolling through

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Speaker 1: co Eds and then just attending all those Saturday games. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's doing the hook him horns thing or whatever that

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Speaker 1: is there it is, and then now you have this

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Speaker 1: dude or he pumped up Graver. Yeah, pretty pumped up.

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Speaker 1: I think Texas is finally back. Right. We can say

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Speaker 1: it with confidence. Games first, right, and the sec you

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Speaker 1: would think you would think with him if he if

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Speaker 1: he lives up to his billing. I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know anything about prospects, but he's been like the

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Speaker 1: number one prospect hype wise for years. Yeah. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's just because his name is Manning, but

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Speaker 1: he's like the clear number one quarterback on that level

539
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Speaker 1: of like Trevor Lawrence Andrew luck type of guys Opal

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Speaker 1: works out and Graver you just, um, you know when

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Speaker 1: you went to school. I asked you before the show.

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Speaker 1: You just missed the magical um run of cult McCoy a.

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Speaker 1: Texas probably the last really relevant era for them in

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Speaker 1: some respect. Will this pull you back? Will you be going?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that you'll go back and watch games?

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Speaker 1: And do you think that Manning has a chance to

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Speaker 1: outshine cult McCoy in the setting. I think he does

548
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Speaker 1: because his name is Manning. But he's got to be

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Speaker 1: he's gonna win games. Like Greg said, so I've been

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Speaker 1: pretty like into Texas football. They have a really fun

551
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Speaker 1: way of making you strong believers in September and then

552
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: completely crumbling down the stretch. So every year is like, um, yeah,

553
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Speaker 1: I mean they've fallen off the map, but now you

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Speaker 1: know they're they're entering the sec They're getting ready. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to Isadore, Newman where Arch goes to school. A

556
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Speaker 1: couple of my good friends from college went there a

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Speaker 1: football jugger not despite being some small like school, and

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Speaker 1: they somehow get all the Mannings. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: that works. That's a great point, Greg Dan. What is

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Speaker 1: going on in the streets in tech. You're in Texas,

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Speaker 1: You're it's he let around you. What's the physical human

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Speaker 1: response to this news that just broke hours ago? You're

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Speaker 1: right there, there's nothing going on. I'm actually fairly close

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Speaker 1: to Austin. But again, the Texas is very spread out,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's very different than where the three of

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Speaker 1: us currently live, which is a very highly concentrated region

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Speaker 1: of the country, So I haven't seen another human today. Putters,

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Speaker 1: putters and gutters is like where everyone is uh hanging

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Speaker 1: out and that's it. There was like seven people of

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Speaker 1: putters and gutters, um, and that's it. But anyway, good

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Speaker 1: good luck to see that picture, by the way, of

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Speaker 1: all the Mannings hanging out. I believe in New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: but maybe maybe not. Maybe they were in Texas and

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Speaker 1: they all had identical looking polos and wrinkled uh shorts.

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Speaker 1: And I showed that picture to my son to see

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Speaker 1: if he recognized anyone in the picture, and he did

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Speaker 1: recognize Peyton Manning and mentioned how much he dislikes Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning as a Patriots fan. I don't like that guy there, Dan.

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Speaker 1: You know there's a Manning nephew or you know on

580
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Speaker 1: that wears Slayer shirt and has a mohawk and you know,

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Speaker 1: ripped up jeans and a chain and smokes cigarettes that

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Speaker 1: they just keep hidden. Yeah, probably like up in the

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Speaker 1: attic somewhere, like chained to a chain to a bed,

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Speaker 1: like you know the Kennedy story, the poor Kennedy woman

585
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: that they kind of kept out of view. UM, a

586
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: similar situation. They put they put a drill into her

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Speaker 1: head by the way. So I know it's a very

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Speaker 1: sad story. I was kind of dancing around that aspect

589
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Speaker 1: of it, but more that she was kept out of

590
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Speaker 1: the public I for the balance of her life, sodomized,

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00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: taken out of the taken out of the rotation. Could

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Speaker 1: this guy be lobotomized. I don't know. If he exists,

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Speaker 1: he might be in danger. Certainly he'd be in danger

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Speaker 1: of being forced to wear khaki shorts. Similar to how

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Speaker 1: marx um child that popped up a few years ago. Right,

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Speaker 1: remember the missing child. I mean, she's not missing anymore,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't talk. It's my my daughter. We've dan

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Speaker 1: met her. She's a very nice young woman. What's her deal.

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Speaker 1: She's twenty four years old, lives in not too far

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Speaker 1: from here. And that was News and Notes presented by

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Speaker 1: dot com. All right, let's take a break and we'll

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Speaker 1: get to some deep internal thoughts that would never be

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Speaker 1: shared with the public from your favorite NFL stars. All Right,

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Speaker 1: we're back. It's time. It's time to dig in to

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Speaker 1: let the people know what's really going on behind the

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Speaker 1: eyes of some of the most notable NFL figures. And

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Speaker 1: I would say this, and I think this needs to

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Speaker 1: be a bit of a promise that we won't use

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Speaker 1: anything that we broadcast today against these individuals because we

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Speaker 1: are in a sense you could say, it's an invasion

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Speaker 1: of their privacy at a biblical level what we're doing here.

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Speaker 1: So that goes for everyone listening, any Shadowy League figures,

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Speaker 1: including that one gentleman on the third floor, and anyone else.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair ground, real set. I think that's

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Speaker 1: that's just because we're wielding a certain amount of power

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Speaker 1: here and it's going to take us and the listeners um,

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Speaker 1: a lot of restraint to not even think about it.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you hear something very disturbing about someone

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Speaker 1: and every time you see them, that's all you can

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Speaker 1: think about. We've got to refrain from that being the

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Speaker 1: case with these NFL figures. Well, right, two, Like people

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Speaker 1: are concerned about that privacy data, um, and we're getting

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Speaker 1: literally inside their brains. That's some privacy data you normally

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Speaker 1: want to protect them. They can't, all right, So let's

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Speaker 1: let's get inside a brain. Greg, do you want to

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00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: get us going today? Sure? Um, let's get inside the

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Speaker 1: mind of pet Carroll. People ask me all the time, like,

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Speaker 1: how long is this gonna take? Are you gonna throw

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Speaker 1: the ball forward? I don't know that. I don't really

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Speaker 1: care about that. What do I do know is that

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Speaker 1: things are going to go the right way. People want

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Speaker 1: to say, Oh, Gino or Drew, how about asking this question,

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Speaker 1: Rashot or ken that's Shotpenny or ken Walker. Here's what

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Speaker 1: Gino can do. He can turn around, hold the ball

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Speaker 1: to his left, and then one of those running backs

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Speaker 1: can run to the left or to the right. It's

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Speaker 1: up to them. They actually you can also run to

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Speaker 1: the middle, one of the things we've been thinking about.

640
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: They can actually start running to the left, and then

641
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: they can change directions and then run to the right.

642
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: There's all sorts of options. I'm just so jacked and

643
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: pumped to get after it. I'm so happy. Russell Wilson's gone.

644
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Wait was that? Was that allowed? Was that what allowed? Out? Loud?

645
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: I like the Pete Carroll cadence. I thought, you really

646
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: got Pete Carroll down there just right. I can always

647
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: you can always hear the winter green gum chomping between

648
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: the back bowlers. It's funny, yeah, that Pete, you know,

649
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: still always positive, always completely confident that the most optimistic

650
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: scenario plays out. That's just Pete Carroll. I mean that

651
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: he's not concerned. I think, I think, I mean now

652
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: that we know that, I mean, he didn't want to

653
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: even let it out from his own internal thoughts there

654
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: at the end. But he's just so excited. He's so

655
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: excited to be turning the page from this domineerian personality

656
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: that was running his his franchise, when he has so

657
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: many different offensive options that he laid out that Drew

658
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: lock Ginou can do very well. Well. It's funny Greg

659
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: that you, um, we're able to drill into the mind

660
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: of Pete Carroll, because I have drilled right into the

661
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: mind of that quarterback that you mentioned, Geno Smith. Oh

662
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: my gosh, I thought you said that, Russell. This is it.

663
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: This is my moment, my stage, and no one's gonna

664
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: take it for me. Last time I was in training

665
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: camp with a starting job in my back pocket, some

666
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: Jabroni teammate broke my jaw because I skipped out on

667
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: a high school football camp without noticed and refused to

668
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: reimburse the cost of airfare. My teammate had fronted me

669
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: in good faith. What a jerk. That guy was totally

670
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: in in the wrong. But I'm always right. I'm Geno

671
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: Smith coach Carol traded for Drew Lock. That's funny as hell.

672
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: Beat knows that dude can't hold my giant jockstrap. Let's

673
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: strap Drew in the Gino coasted this summer. Then watch

674
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: him plummet to a horrifying death. Yeah that's right. I'm

675
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: straight up murdering the competition. This Baker Mayfield coming to town. Please.

676
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: The only thing that dude could beat me in is

677
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: commercial revenue and a lack of troubling d U I

678
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: R s. And that's only one nothing plenty of ball

679
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: game there, mental checklist time, baby win, a starting job?

680
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: Check when m v P check, when super Bowl check?

681
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: Find proof Earth is flat? Sideways check? Oh yeah, this

682
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: is gonna be a great year. Still chasing that flat

683
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: earth concept. I like that he's he doesn't give up.

684
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: Well he doesn't dress because I would have thought I

685
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: would have been the one who could get inside the mind.

686
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: But you you really did it. Um. He backed off

687
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: that flat earth stuff publicly, but you know he thinks

688
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: about it all right, And you know, and Pete Carroll

689
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: has some theories of his own, so the two of

690
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: them kind of go hand in hand. Interesting. It's gonna

691
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: be an interesting season in Seattle based on what we

692
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: just heard. Well, I hope the murdering was metaphorical, you know,

693
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: on the field, um, because otherwise it be a little

694
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: to be troubling. But again, we can't use any of

695
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: this him. No, it's but if anybody wants to, you know,

696
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: shoot Drew Lock, the d M that might have ability

697
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: to maybe just a heads up, watch your back. I

698
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: don't think we're supposed to tell Drew Lock based on

699
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: the ground rules. I think surprised by trust tree here.

700
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: That's all right, all right, was another edition of MS

701
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: Sipping on Vena checking on. I assume you have someone

702
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: from the Seattle Seahawks. I do not. I am traveling.

703
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm taking us to Tampa, where we're going to get

704
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: inside the head of Bruce Arians and sometimes it bugs me.

705
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Tom retires, then Tom un retires, then I retire. Kind of,

706
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 1: let's be real, baby, I was bumped upstairs, classic lever

707
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: poll on the old guy. So now Tom and left

708
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: witch Huddle is a twosome to design the weekly game

709
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: plan without me. Classy moved by Lefty after I went

710
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: to bat for him ten thou times. Some times I

711
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: tell myself trust nobody bright side. I'm still making a

712
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: fat paycheck, still get to eat in the team cafeteria,

713
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: which by the way, has hugely improved since they replaced

714
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: that last chef's super dull Jessica Yardley with this new guy,

715
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: El Gucci. El Gucci has done incredible things to the menu.

716
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: Wonderful pork tenderloin yesterday for lunch, every morning, waffles dipped

717
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: in butter and foreign syrups. There was a fish fry

718
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: last Friday, which I was first in line for. El

719
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: Gucci has his own way of crispin French fries and

720
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: then serving them with multiple dipping sauces ranch, chipotle, sweet chili, honey, barbecue, Dijon.

721
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: The other day, battleship for NET came up to me

722
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria and there I was huddled over a

723
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: massive second lunch. Two dense Try Tips sandwiches, a big

724
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: bowl of spaghetti undermeat sauce, a green salad with honey

725
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: dipped croutons, and a massive tumbler whiskey. What you've been

726
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: working on these days for Net? Asked me nothing, baby,

727
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: I said nothing at all. Wow. That checks out feels

728
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: um feels on point. It feels like, Um, I have

729
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: some concern level for Bruce's health, you know, because he's

730
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: been You see him puttering around in that golf cart

731
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: when he was coaching last year. So I don't know

732
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: if there's like a lot of exercise. Um. And I

733
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: definitely it seems like al Gucci, great food, but dangerous

734
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: that he's eating almost too much. It's a problematic path potentially. Yeah,

735
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: Bruce is he loves life and he's not a guy

736
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: that's always as careful as he needs to be. So

737
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: hopefully he's mixing in some salads of the commissary. Um.

738
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: I I would love to see, honestly, So since the

739
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: announcement came that he was moving upstairs, what was that

740
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: in February January February if you gave him a piece

741
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: of loose leaf paper and a pen in and said, please,

742
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: if you could, Bruce, list everything you've accomplished work wise

743
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: since you've moved into this front office role. I would

744
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 1: love to see it. And he can't bullshit. He needs

745
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: to actually list tangible work that he's done. He's probably

746
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: made half a million dollars in salaries. Right. I don't

747
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: know if he has a boss, but I I think

748
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: it would be good if he doesn't. I mean, I

749
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: feel like I am. You know. We're still working hard

750
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: and I want to do the best job we can.

751
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: But I have slight arians tendencies here because our huddle

752
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: has really gone up and not since we moved into

753
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: Engle several and it's free so much like for arians

754
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: um and I schedule my time at work around service.

755
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: I actually had to run in yesterday to just get

756
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: the microphone to bring to Japan, you know. And I

757
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: and I showed up specifically to get the end of

758
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: breakfast and waited around for the beginning of laton before

759
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: that eleven am. It off right ten thirty, so you

760
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: have to get there before ten thirty, hang out to

761
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: a couple, you know, talk around, and then get that

762
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: lunch and sometimes then we'll take a podcast if it

763
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: was a day we do that. Come back for kind

764
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: of lunch too, which is like a souper a little

765
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: lunch part two. Yeah, they've got pizza slices um free

766
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: all the time. There was a initially when we moved

767
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: into the building, they said, you know, it's going to

768
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: be free for I think September, just so that people who,

769
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: you know, the anxiety of returning to work, like, let's

770
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: kind of grease the skids, give you some nice food,

771
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: and the pricing the cost never came. It just was

772
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: remain free, which is sort of an anti corporate move there.

773
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: Typically they're like taking water coolers away and stuff like that.

774
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: Not here. And during our contract negotiations and you know,

775
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: you you have different options and you're weighing what you

776
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: want to do next um with the podcast and in

777
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: our careers, and you know, we ultimately you know, when

778
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: I was asked, you know what what made the difference?

779
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, yeah, you know great, you know,

780
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: great people work here. It's great. You know, the studio

781
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: is great. We've had such a great run here at NFL.

782
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: We think we could keep it up going forward. But really,

783
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: if you wanted to get into my internal monologue, it

784
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh, the free food at the much improved promissary,

785
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: Like it starts there and ends there. It was at

786
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: least of my thinking in terms of making a final decision.

787
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: And that's an internal monologue, Greg, you got another one?

788
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: I do all right? Let's do it. This is inside

789
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: the mind of Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I really think for me,

790
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: it's it's just kind of funny how this off season

791
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: being portrayed in the media. We're all gonna miss Devant.

792
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: I love Devanty. You saw the photos on Instagram. That's proof, right,

793
00:45:51,200 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: that's real mhmm to himself. But I don't know if

794
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: people really saw the results of the m v P

795
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: Award voting the last two years. One name I didn't

796
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: see at the top, Davante Adams didn't. He didn't see

797
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: him get a vote. But I and kind of people

798
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: maybe should should go see those results the m v

799
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: P Award the last two years. There is one name

800
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: that that's there. It's pretty consistent. So it's like I

801
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: told Goody last year, I think I've been pretty incredible

802
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: and based on my years, yeah, I think it'd be

803
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: nice if everyone out there just recognized. Now, if there's

804
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: one thing I know to be true, it's that inside

805
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers's brain, there's a lot of self congratulatve with

806
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: some congratulations going on so vindictive. I mean, he he

807
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: just he needs to look for someone to to push

808
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: back against, and he sees he sees what's out there

809
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: and this is the closest thing. Oh, people, people aren't

810
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: ranking there are the Packers in their top five offenses?

811
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: Are people so worried? Oh, the Packers are gonna be

812
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: really missing Davante Adams. The Packers are about one man

813
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: and one man only. This will be a good test.

814
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: They haven't quite stacked the roster in this favor. There

815
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: are some other quarterbacks that have gotten better UM support

816
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: this offseason, in my opinion, and one of them is

817
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: a guy that's about into his second year up there

818
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: in New England. Well, summer break is here. I'm back

819
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: home in Jacksonville and it feels good. Drinking natty lights,

820
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: blasting my favorite band, Creed, taking the pontoon boat out

821
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: on the lake with Becky jog Head and all my

822
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: other friends. We deserve this. I deserve this. I've worked

823
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: hard on my body and game all offseason so guys

824
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: like Craig rosen Bloom can make snarky comments at my

825
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: He won't be able to make snarky comments at my

826
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: expense this year. But hanging out with babes and bros

827
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: doesn't stop my mind from wandering, and at night I

828
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: forget it. I can't sleep, I can hardly breathe. That's

829
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: all I can think about. Who is my offensive coordinator?

830
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: Is it Mr QB sneak on thirty nine Joe Judge?

831
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: I can't be Is it Patricia? That Patricia? Like I?

832
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: I locked his keys in his car at minicamp twice.

833
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: I know enough by now that it's not appropriate to

834
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: ask questions or have creative thoughts with my team. But

835
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: every other quarterback knows who their coaches. Why can't I?

836
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: It's almost like, hey, stop, what Belichick? Is that you?

837
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: How could you be in my head? It's impossible. You

838
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: will do as you're told to take orders from superiors

839
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: without question. But do you understand? I just do you understand?

840
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: Grumble grumble, yes, sir? Okay, no more Creed on the

841
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: pontoon only bon Jovi. Yes, yes, coach, My life is

842
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: a nightmare. Wow, it's not easy up there in the

843
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: Patriot Way. I mean, it's it's Belichick's next frontier. We

844
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: think we can get inside the mind. He's inside the

845
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: mind of ninety different men, the monitoring their conversation. He

846
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: waited a long time to penetrate the mind of Mac Jones,

847
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: to this pivotal moment where there was doubt. It's a

848
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: big finish. It's a big finish. I think it's one

849
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: of his skills, the greatest skills in the legendary coaching

850
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: run is that ability to mind meld. It's funny because

851
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: when I when I hear like Mac Jones's voice inside

852
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: of his head, for some reason, it's like more like, well,

853
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: I hope the guys are really going to catch the

854
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: balls this year. That's just I don't know why. That's

855
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: I really gotta have fun playing the football with the guys.

856
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: It sounds like from Jacksonville. That kind of opened up

857
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: a whole other world for me. Yeah, I thought you

858
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: were going into that. I didn't. Why does that open up? Yeah?

859
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: I guess that kind of makes sense. He seems like

860
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: a like a sort of southern bro, which is what

861
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: Jacksonville I imagined to be. Alabama. Yeah, I mean, no

862
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: disrespe to anybody listening from Duval, but I thought he

863
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: was like a good old boy from I guess from

864
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: Alabama or the surrounding area up there. I don't know. Anyway,

865
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: it's rich that in that in North Florida, you know,

866
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: it's very uh it's very southern Laurabama. Is that I've

867
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: been there, had I've had a few wild nights at Florabama. Again,

868
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: how come we didn't get any of these Rosenthal wild nights?

869
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: You speak about them with such frequency. Did any of

870
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: them happen post nine eleven? Greg? Uh? Wait nine eleven? No? No? Well,

871
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 1: I mean I had some wild nights in my life,

872
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: but I was out of college and and there might

873
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: have been a few trips back there for weddings and whatnot,

874
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: but not not at Florabama. I mean, you're trying to

875
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: implicate Greg, and no, I'm just saying that most of

876
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: greg wild tales happened from an era before um even

877
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: nine eleven. It's it seems all right. I just wanted

878
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: to make sure you weren't read. It was an important

879
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: sort of um Greg moment in the country that was

880
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: like a before and after. I see where you're going,

881
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: But I was out here in Los Angeles at the time,

882
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: working at Hallway Pictures, which produced uh Johnson's Family and

883
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: Vacation starring Cedric the Entertainers. In terms of the time

884
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: space continuum continuum there mark that if our theory holds true,

885
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: that Greg was born age thirty two standing up? Does

886
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: he even know what nine eleven is? Is he just

887
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: playing along right now? Well that's a that's a rich mystery.

888
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: And not all these two lane stories are just part

889
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: of some amazing backstory that I pre wrote. Yes, all right,

890
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: that's given me a lot of credit. Alright, Mark finished.

891
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: Well this is strange because um, I we must be

892
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: LinkedIn in this exercise some agreement. We're using these powers

893
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: because I also have a new England patriot, um who

894
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: is going to be very important to to Mac Jones.

895
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: And that his first round pick um Cole Strange. And

896
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 1: when I was um penetrating the mind of culture strange. Uh,

897
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of spent a lot of time

898
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure out because he was doing

899
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: something weird. He all of his internal monologues are done

900
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: in dear diary format. That's how he thinks. Um, I

901
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: don't know if that appeals to Bill Belichick, and that's

902
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: why they you know, maybe drafted over drafted him. But

903
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: this is here we'll go here we go. Yeah, interesting

904
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: dear diary. I heard the chuckles when I was drafted.

905
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: Of course I did. Who's this guy? And why is

906
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: he going twenty nine. Overall, the little blogger boys won't

907
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: be giggling so hard when I grind a dolphin's interior

908
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: alignment into dust four minutes into week one. Those little

909
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: keyboardists won't know what to say when I make all

910
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: pro after seventeen pristine starts without allowing a single sack

911
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: of mac Daddy Jones. My physical body glows like a diamond.

912
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: This morning, I climbed the mountain located at the edge

913
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: of my apartment complex, upward and through the hilly regions

914
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: to where few trees remained. There, I encountered a billy goat.

915
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: It stood frozen, its eyes piercing into mine. Through some

916
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: hidden power of nature, the goats spoke to me telepathically

917
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: something many humans do not understand, said the beast, its

918
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: eyes now blazing red. Is that your experience here is

919
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: simply a vision, a dream of sorts, but not in

920
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: the way that you think of dreams. Is football real?

921
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: I asked, not especially, said the goat. Are you real?

922
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: I asked? Can I answer your question with a question?

923
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: Said the animal? Okay, Would you believe me if I

924
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: said I was your ninth grade girlfriend, Nikki Exxon in

925
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: the form of a mountain goat. But Nicki Xxon married

926
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: Chris Trigger. No, that's a false illusion. I am Nicki

927
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: x song and I'm still in love with you and

928
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: think about you every day. Cole, I have to go now,

929
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: I said, I have to lift weights the facility. Then

930
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: I walked down the mountain and got into my truck

931
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: and drove the Patriot Place where strength and conditioning coach

932
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: ted Frumpy spotted me on the dumbbell. Mm hmm, wow,

933
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: it's I love that both you and Cole are are

934
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: fans of the phrase my physical body UM and UM,

935
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: and I feel like um. This is almost a dream

936
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: for you, for you to mark that you would run

937
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: into um, a high school or middle school ex girlfriend

938
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: in the form of a goat like you, You would

939
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: love that I felt connect more connected. Yeah, I think

940
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: like you know, I mind the the minds of many

941
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: NFL players to do this exercise and has stood out

942
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: to me. I feel a connected kind of um brotherhood

943
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: to him, knowing what we know. You know what we

944
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: learned minutes earlier. I would be concerned if I'm cold,

945
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: that Nikki Exxon could potentially be in great danger as

946
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: seen as a distraction and one that needed to be muzzled,

947
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: or I guess industrialized. Um, if goats being processed, people

948
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: people eat some goats, right well, Or that Nikki x

949
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: on x um um potentially is Bill Belichick. Um, and

950
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: she's not. It's not really Nikki's levels. He's turning into

951
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: the clown from it where he has the ability to

952
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: take on different forms and then psychological and physical menace.

953
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a heavy thing to be Belichick

954
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 1: and inside all these minds because he has been open

955
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: up to many of the darkest secrets of the known universe.

956
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: And I hope he can keep his focus as coach,

957
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: knowing what he now knows about Nikki and the goat

958
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: and and everything. All the implications Bill Belichick is pennywise,

959
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: it actually checks out. Um, all right, there you go again.

960
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: Anything you heard here, Try not I know you can't

961
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: eliminate it entirely from your mind's eye, but just try

962
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: to understand that these were private thoughts and m and

963
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: to respect them in that sense. Thank you to everybody. Yeah, great, great, right,

964
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: I think, Um, you know, we've we've done this in

965
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: the debt of the off season a few times. I

966
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: feel like we need to bring this back on a

967
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: Tuesday or different show during the season. I think getting

968
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: inside their minds during the season, I think would be

969
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: a fun expert g s. All right, that's it for

970
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: another week of shows here in the off season, Greg,

971
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: you will no head off to Japan. Got a got

972
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: a big championship game in the y m c A

973
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: Bronze League coming up on Saturday first. So your coach

974
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: you sent a text your coach, the coach of your

975
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: son's team quit like on short notice, and you've been

976
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: thrust into the role of head coach at the most

977
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: critical juncture of the season. That hindsight, he sort of

978
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: groom me he needed extra help and was a little

979
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: inconsistent of with his attendance and had various reasons for

980
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: it throughout the season, and then he just was gone. Um,

981
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: and I've had to take over, and um, I don't

982
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: know how to run a basketball practice like pastad If

983
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: you watched Winning Time on HBO, I feel like more

984
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: like the Dave McGinnis or I guess Dan Campbell with

985
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: the Dolphins would be one I would rather be or

986
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: Joe Vit. You know that. But but I'm struggling and

987
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: we're in the championship game against a team that is

988
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: nine in one and whose coach takes it so seriously.

989
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: It makes me that's the best if you could beat

990
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: If you could beat the team with the coach that

991
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: takes kids sports way too seriously, it's so much more rewarding.

992
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: But we're we're five and five. We're heavy, heavy underdogs

993
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: in this. We gotta want to take the other gentleman

994
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: to task. But what kind of person quits the team

995
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: as coach just before the championship game? Why not can

996
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: you not maybe cap it off with one more constant?

997
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: He left me in a tough spot a couple of

998
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Probably didn't think we were going to the championship.

999
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: We've had a nice orchestrated this playoff run. Two and

1000
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: one games, the games that take care of themselves. The

1001
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: practices are some of the longest hours of my life.

1002
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like I don't know what to do.

1003
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: Are you playing big or what's your rotation going to be? Well,

1004
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: they're six years old. You try to give everyone some

1005
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: playing time. But I know the way this guy works.

1006
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: He's not taking his best players out. So I'm definitely

1007
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 1: doing like a box and one given putting our best

1008
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: defensive player on their one superstar, and just that's my

1009
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: main innovation, hoping for the best is Walker has seen

1010
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: an uptick in playing time since you took over. Now

1011
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: I almost overcorrect and trying to do it. But he's

1012
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: he's solid, like he would be in the middle, you know,

1013
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: he's he wouldn't be playing the whole game anyways, like

1014
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: some of the we do have a couple of stars.

1015
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: When you announced this, Graver had some very good ideas

1016
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: for practices and stuff. Would you would you ever consist

1017
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: consider bringing him on as an assistant coach? I would

1018
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: love to. I wish you had sent me those suggestions

1019
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: and I could have had over the Santa Monica y

1020
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: on Thursday for the last practice or Wednesday, and but

1021
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: I could have used your help because I looked at

1022
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: that clock and I was like, wait, we got twenty

1023
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: more minutes. What am I gonna do? What did you

1024
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: suggest grammar? Oh? I suggested layup lines three. Man, we've

1025
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: a nice scrimmage. Scrimmage always eats up the scrimmages, but

1026
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: they the scrimmages the standby in coaching youth. Yeah, teams,

1027
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: you got twenty five minutes left, uh, scrimmage? How about

1028
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: like a game of course, don't the kids play a

1029
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: game of horse with like you know, like a ice

1030
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: cream Sundays as as a surprise that that would take

1031
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: thirty minutes? Right? It just like you're living kicking and screaming,

1032
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: but with basketball instead of soccer, which is great. Well,

1033
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: just know the kids. The kids think you know everything.

1034
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: It's the parents that you have to win over because

1035
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: they're watching, and they're watching. Yeah, I feel like I'm

1036
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: letting like the ones who are genuinely talented. I feel

1037
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: like I'm letting them their kids down that they're not

1038
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: really getting any learned. Greg, you've tugged them to will

1039
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: follow you into taking them to the championship game. I don't.

1040
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. Like yourself. If you know, if anything,

1041
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: you can turn to the parents and say eat it,

1042
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: they should. They should applaud what you've done. Well, what

1043
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: one of them could have stepped in and seem support

1044
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: if they're they're all nice. Just think about this too, Mark,

1045
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: think about the big I'm assuming Greg the coach is

1046
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: a bigger man. He gets angry at something happens in

1047
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: the game. He says something to Greg you know, Greg

1048
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: has a way of saying things back to people I

1049
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: won't And just imagine what would happen if Greg hits

1050
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: him with a little Greg bomb, if he keeps complaining

1051
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: to the officials and stuff like that. I'm gonna I'm

1052
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna say something. I think I need to go to

1053
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: this game and see how this. It's my call for

1054
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: another Peacemaker summit. I know this guy. I haven't said,

1055
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: I haven't said a word in in our matchups, but

1056
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: it's on everyone's radar. Believe there's always that guy. You

1057
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: know exactly without ever having seen or know the man,

1058
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: I know exactly the type anyway. All right, that's a

1059
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: good luck to you in the championship. When is it

1060
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: Saturday morning? Alright? Good luck in the championship and uh

1061
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: trip to Japan and Mark will be you and I

1062
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: UH with Cavon Thibodeaux on Monday. We gotta figure out

1063
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: how we're gonna move that relationship forward closer to friendship status. Well,

1064
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: I have full confidence that we do. Each time we

1065
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: meet with him, Um, you know, the friendship becomes more intense,

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01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: and so I think that that that is the direction. Beautiful,

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you, everybody for listening. Enjoy your weekend,

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: have fun, be safe, head to putters and gutters if

1069
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 1: you're in the Marble Falls area. If, even if you don't,

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Speaker 1: just remember one thing, he'd the call