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Speaker 1: Final start this week Dallas Boston matchups.

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Speaker 2: Players who you got? I have a oh geez, are

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Speaker 2: back in the We are in Miami, back home.

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Speaker 3: I got a special guest for you, man, man man

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Speaker 3: NBA champion.

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Speaker 4: Very few people that I can learn something from, that's right,

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Speaker 4: very few people.

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Speaker 5: So this is exciting for me.

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Speaker 2: An NBA All Star just signed up.

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Speaker 5: Big ass chit chi.

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Speaker 2: And well deserved.

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Speaker 1: Man in the building, Crime Butler, appreciate you coming in,

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Speaker 1: my brother.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me. I love to set up. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is dope. Yeah, appreciate it. She appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations will jump right into congratulations on a new four

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Speaker 1: year deal.

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Speaker 2: Well deserved man, Thank you. It was so unexpected too.

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Speaker 3: I uh, obviously I knew that my contract was coming

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Speaker 3: to an end, and we had a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 3: success over the last couple of years, uh, stemming from

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Speaker 3: his time and everything that he's poured into the organization,

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Speaker 3: into the young guys, and you know, it just came

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Speaker 3: out of left field. I was like, oh, snap, it's

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Speaker 3: a blessing. It's a blessing.

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Speaker 1: Well it's almost full circle though, get drafted here and

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Speaker 1: now coaching here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, It started with him and d Wade,

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Speaker 3: me and my young fellas, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: look at it. Yeah, man, he was my young fella.

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Speaker 3: Now he's the Triple O G Now, so you my

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Speaker 3: I was just sitting back watching and I was like, oh, snap,

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Speaker 3: like damn, Like he's speaking truth to power and we

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Speaker 3: like we don't have to say too much because he's

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Speaker 3: echoing everything. So it was important to just watch that process.

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Speaker 3: For me, that was awesome.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: I tell people all the time, Bro, it's like, I

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Speaker 4: understand that. You know, the league is getting younger and

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Speaker 4: these guys are more talented, But you can't really put

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Speaker 4: a price tag on hiving a veteran voice in your

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Speaker 4: locker room. A guy who's relatable to the players, who

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Speaker 4: has experience, who's won championships but not necessarily has the

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Speaker 4: coaching position, but can echo and be a voice in

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Speaker 4: the locker room and be another extension of your coach.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's invaluable in any locker room. And I

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Speaker 4: was just fortunate enough to be here, But in any

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Speaker 2: It's most over, it's one of the most overlooked things

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Speaker 4: And you gotta have guys that listen, have young guys

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Speaker 4: that want to listen and want to get better. And

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Speaker 4: to the credit of the Heat, we brought in the

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Speaker 4: right guys, you know what I mean. So it goes

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Speaker 4: both ways.

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Speaker 3: You always have guys that listen when they're respected by

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Speaker 3: work and everything that he stand for, you know, speaking

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Speaker 3: truth to power, it's no gray area with him.

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Speaker 2: You know where you stand, you know.

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Speaker 3: So it's like those guys, and it's a handful of

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Speaker 2: You need those guys in the locker room.

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Speaker 5: Did that for us. He did that for me and Dwayne.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We first got here. You

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, a sugar coat and shit, he

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Speaker 4: shot it straight. We speak the same language. You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, what it is, what it ain't. You

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And this is how you're gonna

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Speaker 4: survive in this league. And he gave us that and

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Speaker 4: it just trickles down and that's why we got a coach.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I was fortunate to play with both y'all and both

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Speaker 1: know exactly where you're staying with both you matter fact,

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Speaker 1: be honest and that and that's but that's to me,

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Speaker 1: that's the one thing that needs to be done for

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Speaker 1: all these young kids coming through because they don't like

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Speaker 1: it's almost like raising kids they.

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Speaker 2: Ain't supposed to know. Yeah, like they ain't supposed to know.

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Speaker 1: Like if you if you're mad as a young kid

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Speaker 3: You got to be so creative in your your tactics

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Speaker 3: now to get proper execution from younger guys. Because let's

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Speaker 3: face it, like we grew up in real time going

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Speaker 3: But also like people don't want to, you know, go

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Speaker 3: so the ship is different, you know, like a blister.

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Speaker 3: It's different. It's different.

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you say that because the hardest thing for

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Speaker 1: to me, and it's just my experience, is when you're

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Speaker 1: Both of you guys had that, like that transitioning out right,

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Speaker 1: and then you go on to coaching. What was the

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Speaker 1: biggest challenge for you coaching wise? Because you were always

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Speaker 1: a grinder. You were always a grinder, like hard work play,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean talents as hell, but grinders. What

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Speaker 1: was the hardest transition for you when you started coaching?

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Speaker 4: That life was a transition. He was selling crack life.

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Speaker 4: Life was a transition. You're looking at a maid.

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Speaker 5: Man. We're talking about fu one.

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Speaker 4: Ed were talking about the three sixty three sixty turning

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Speaker 4: right back to the same we gonna go back.

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Speaker 2: But listen truth to power.

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Speaker 3: Like with that being said, I knew that if if

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Speaker 3: I could sell poison for real, like if I could

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Speaker 3: sell dope, I know I can sell hope. You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. That's easy is this Sunday, But it's

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Speaker 3: like that's just what it was. So my whole process

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be a coach or a teacher in

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Speaker 3: some capacity, was in a twenty eleven you know, second

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Speaker 3: in Dallas, and I was like, damn, how can I

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Speaker 2: Be out there and do what the fuck I need

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Speaker 3: And I'm like going through this process and it's you know,

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Speaker 3: started in film sessions where I was like Rick Kryloles

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Speaker 2: Like, hey, why the fuck, Like why we're not getting back?

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Speaker 2: What's this?

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Speaker 5: Where the shrink you know, the rotation slow?

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Speaker 3: And it's just like, oh man, I like doing this,

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Speaker 4: to talk about that championship. I hate to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Fuck that championship.

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Speaker 5: You don't talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Dirk credited you for being a huge reason of why

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Speaker 4: they win that championship obviously after your injury. First of all,

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Speaker 4: did you put your knee cap back in and heard

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Speaker 2: Man, you know where we're from.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna tell y'all had like one hundred like

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Speaker 3: this is no no cap, no bullshit, Like I had

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Speaker 3: this is the time, like the momentum in my favor

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Speaker 3: Janni's and all that's so it's you know, easy to

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Speaker 3: get Bucks tickets, probably about five hours discount pack. And

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Speaker 1: Yeah sounded like some Kobe shit right there, and you

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Speaker 2: That sounds like some Kobe shit. You know what you

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Speaker 3: That was the only thing I remember from that conversation.

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Speaker 4: The fact that you brought up Kobe, it's just and

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Speaker 3: I would say this, like the mama mentality is what

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Speaker 2: And I and I say that.

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Speaker 2: This is what Roles was talking about.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't see an individual doing it, but I

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Speaker 1: That's why I love hearing it because you see all

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Speaker 5: Young boy like to say, they got your mama.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, but you even see all

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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's not it's not to make believe it's

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Speaker 4: that trade me and d Wade was a little hurt.

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Speaker 4: Me too, bro, It's a little hurt we had. We

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Speaker 3: I came back from Antigua and I heard about the

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh shit, like I'm all that rumors

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Speaker 3: like that ain't real, and this for social media, so

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Speaker 3: it's just some shit happening on the ticker. I know

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Speaker 3: Shaq is coming, So I was like, damn, what the

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Speaker 3: It was like, oh yeah, somebody gotta go with picks

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Speaker 2: Told me it was a great investment. He was like,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, a great investment.

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Speaker 4: Like the Godfather always say, when a whale is available,

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Speaker 4: That's what we always understood caause I remember my name

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Speaker 4: was in it had One time we were talking about

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: The usage and yeah the ball, yeah that that that

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Speaker 4: How can I argue if you bring in Alan Ivison, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I gotta.

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Speaker 1: As a human being, if you have any self awareness,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it sounds good, but I still had

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Speaker 2: It's the most uneasy thing.

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Speaker 1: Like in our profession, we have a there's a blessings

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Speaker 1: I got traded on my birthday right.

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Speaker 5: Now, birthday killed at the happy birthday? Do from where?

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Speaker 1: From Orlando to Memphis? Yeah, And so when I was

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Speaker 5: You have a party on your birthday? What you do

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Speaker 1: It's in the middle of the season, so you ain't

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Speaker 4: That I would have been a day late. I would

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Speaker 4: Kill I'm enjoying my birthday.

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Speaker 5: Damn that.

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Speaker 4: And we're finish turn up to see We're fin to

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Speaker 4: shut all that down before we get to Memphis.

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Speaker 2: That too.

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Speaker 3: You gotta uproot your family and like people don't understand

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Speaker 2: Man, the sacrifices that we make.

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Speaker 1: Family makes too, like those it's in February, man, break okay,

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Speaker 1: you have them fun in school too bad.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I tell people all the time what

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Speaker 4: where if you play bad, I can look at you

442
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,360
Speaker 4: in your face and tell you a piece of shit.

443
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 4: You playing like shit, you look like shit.

444
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,680
Speaker 5: Go do that. In the corporate world, they're gonna file

445
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 5: a lawsuit on your ass. Go tell your.

446
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 4: Employee at work you playing you working like shit today?

447
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 4: You look like shit, you smell like shit and you're

448
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 4: working like shit. Real, get the fuck out and say

449
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 4: that ship in corporate and watch what happened. Your ass

450
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 4: won't have your job no much longer. Like we literally

451
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 4: ain't listen. Tell people all the time. Man, this ship

452
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 4: ain't for the week. This ship will keep you up

453
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 4: at night. This ship is not for the week. Everybody

454
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 4: ain't built fit this.

455
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: And these teams that are going through the playoffs for

456
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Speaker 1: the first time, I'm starting to see it too, because

457
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a freaking roller coaster.

458
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Speaker 2: Man. No empathy, Yeah, because.

459
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Speaker 1: They're talking about how good they were and how great

460
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: this team is and blah blah, blah blah, and then

461
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 1: they go to this goes and happens to them, and

462
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 1: now they're talking about how shitty they are.

463
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 5: I disagree with that.

464
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: I know, I know you do. But that's what happens.

465
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 2: Watch you're part of it.

466
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 4: Now, what do you think about what they did not

467
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 4: speaking to tn T and and how they how they

468
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 4: held how they held their stance on that as a team.

469
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,880
Speaker 4: I like the unity. I like when the locker rooms

470
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 4: stay together. Listen right or wrong? Take size for your dog.

471
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Speaker 4: Ride for your.

472
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Speaker 2: Dog An too. I like him.

473
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Speaker 5: Well.

474
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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, whether like this, it's

475
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 4: like the old school ship, like the coach make the

476
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 4: team hate each other, but at least they together and

477
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 4: TN T at least they y'all was together.

478
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Speaker 5: I worked for T and T someing, so we might

479
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Speaker 5: have to cut.

480
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Speaker 4: I want to say, fuck y'all, I fuck with y'all,

481
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is the locker room is together.

482
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 3: If you wrong in public, you right in public, but

483
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 3: you're wrong behind closed doors.

484
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: Like if it's real unity, that's what it's.

485
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 4: Exactly, And there's a power in that. Yeah, there's a

486
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 4: power in that. What did you think about that? What

487
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 4: did y'all think about that? How they stood on that?

488
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think what you're saying is a

489
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: lot of truth to it. Like the reality situation is,

490
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, Aunt, who wasn't the one getting killed stood

491
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: up for the rest of the guys because they want

492
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: to talk to Ann.

493
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Speaker 2: So I think it.

494
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a lot to appreciate and myer

495
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: about it, to be honest with you, but it's hard

496
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Speaker 1: because part of our job, too is stepping up when

497
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 1: she ain't right and talking about it. Yeah, so it's

498
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Speaker 1: a it's a back and forth, right Like they always

499
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Speaker 1: talk about it, man, like once you have a bad

500
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: game or.

501
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 2: A good game, you gotta stand on that podium. That's

502
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 2: what they pay you for. Yeah.

503
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Speaker 3: I think it is a space because I've been in

504
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Speaker 3: the media. I was in the media space for four

505
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 3: four and a half five years. And the thing that

506
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 3: I try to do when I address talent or anyone

507
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 3: on any platform after games, after they get a chance

508
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: to decompress, I try to have empathy. I try to

509
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: think about, like from a tactical standpoint, what is this

510
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: individual going through. I try to think outside the bat,

511
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 3: outside the box, because it's layers to know their process,

512
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 3: and then you put yourself in those situations. I know

513
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 3: it's easier said than done, but you really have to

514
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 3: authentically put yourself in those situations. So I went in depth.

515
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,239
Speaker 3: And I was watching the game on Mother's Day and

516
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 3: I'm just I have an elephant memory when it comes

517
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: to these type of things. And I was sitting back

518
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 3: watching the game and one of my close friends was

519
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: doing color commentary on TNT and they were just like, what.

520
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 2: Is going on with Kat?

521
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: Now? I know we don't supposed to speak on other

522
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: players or anything, but it was like, what is going

523
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 3: on with Cat? And I was like, it's Mother's Day.

524
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 3: He's playing on Mother's Day. Like do you do not

525
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 3: think that has a profound impact on his when he

526
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: woke up this morning, when he had to go out

527
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 3: there and have this disposition mentally to go out there

528
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: and produce at the highest level after coming off this

529
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 3: emotional win versus Denver at the time, and now getting

530
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: ready to go to battle. So as fans, you have

531
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 3: to and now getting the money that you're getting, you

532
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: have to just understand that pressure and what comes with it,

533
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: Like this is your responsible I don't give a fuck

534
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: how you feeling, what's going on in your world?

535
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: You got in a car accident? Why didn't you play today?

536
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 5: Exactly?

537
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert had a baby, Like why wasn't you out there?

538
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: Was it? His first kid? Was his only kid?

539
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 3: Like, dude, people know with children, how many times you

540
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 3: get a chance that witness a life come into the

541
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 3: world that you helped produce, Like that is a real experience,

542
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 3: Like you don't take that or change that for anything

543
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 3: like That's like one of those moments. So it's just

544
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: things to me that I'll just be like, Wow, like

545
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 3: the world is really missing out, and have we got

546
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 3: to this place where it's just like nobody give a fuck.

547
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 3: From a competition standpoint, I'm a competitor. I want to

548
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 3: hoist up that trophy at the end of the year

549
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: by any any means within the rules. But at the

550
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 3: same time, I also understand the joy of life because

551
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: I've seen it from this side. I've seen it from

552
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: that side. I experienced the worst ship. We lost people

553
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: close to us, so i understand that perspective as well,

554
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, damn, we're really fucked up as

555
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 3: a society. Yeah, I just had to put that out

556
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: there like that. We're fucked up as a society to.

557
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 2: Think like that.

558
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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking speaking of hoisting trophies.

559
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Speaker 5: Which one? Which one? Are you gonna talk about?

560
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: No, we're gonna talk about who were gonna who's gonna.

561
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 2: Win it this year? First, that's deeed.

562
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 5: I just gonna talk about the trophies, the Yukon or No.

563
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: No, we're gonna get all that though.

564
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: We got plenty of so many.

565
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: That's why we're gonna talk about this one. We ain't

566
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 2: gonna talk about that.

567
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 5: Get into that.

568
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: Just remember whenever you think you can't you can't get.

569
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Speaker 5: Your I ain't heard that.

570
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw me a live over here now like

571
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: an idiot.

572
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 5: I ain't catch that. Caty got you.

573
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Speaker 1: So final start this week Dallas Boston matchups. Players who

574
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Speaker 1: you got?

575
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Speaker 3: I have Dallas winning and I know they're the underdogs,

576
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: but that's one of the main reasons I got them

577
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: winning because they're coming in.

578
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: With a little chip on their shoulder, not a little boulder.

579
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Speaker 3: And you know, I think that from an execution standpoint

580
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 3: is you know, Jason Kidd, Misula, they both do a

581
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 3: great job of putting their best players in the proper

582
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: situations to have advantages and create advantages and get other

583
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: opportunities for you know, their supporting cast. But I just

584
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 3: think that when you look at the best players on

585
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: the team and the best players on the floor, I

586
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 3: think that Dallas have the advantage in that space. I

587
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: think that Luca is by far the best player in

588
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: this series. And no disrespect to you know, Brown, to Tatum,

589
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 3: because they're amazing Tannem and they're wanted the winning. His

590
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 3: Tantem's in all of basketball over the last probably eight

591
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: to ten years. But Luca is that dude. He is

592
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 3: that guy, and it's a platform from him to take

593
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: another step forward. Kyrie, when you think about him and

594
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 3: his journey and what has happened on the stage and

595
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 3: under that umbrella with being with the Boston Celtics, I'm

596
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: just a guy that just understands how you're fueled by

597
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 3: the noise. Immediately when Anthony Edwards said what he said

598
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: to Kyrie, like hey, I can't wait to guard him.

599
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: You know, Kyrie is part of that Mamba claw. So

600
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: he's like, what you said, my name is like on

601
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: TV like me out of all people you could.

602
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 5: Have mentioned my minding my business.

603
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm over here with my family.

604
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: I'm worshiping my God like all praise to the up High,

605
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: Like are you over here to Okay, I'm about to

606
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: unleash this. So I just think that it's a lot

607
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: of stuff brewing in kyrie belly to you know, let out.

608
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: Now from an execution standpoint with Boston, they're gonna have

609
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: to play extremely well. Paint touches, Jalen Brown getting to

610
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: the paint, scoring in the paint. I think that Jason

611
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: Kidd is going to have a scheme for that, yes,

612
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: But the pick and roll is going to be a

613
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: hazard for Boston.

614
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 5: Yes.

615
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: Two of the best pick and roll guys in all

616
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Speaker 2: of basketball is Who and Kyrie.

617
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: And I think that if you switch in the pick

618
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: and roll with Al Horford or morzingis healthy and he's back,

619
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: now you're at a disadvantage because those guys are always

620
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: gonna have u advantage. If you try to blitz, it's

621
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: going to be advantage as well, because they got cutters

622
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: and they got guys that just they're not statues, they're

623
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 3: moving pieces. So I just think that that's going to

624
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: be extremely interesting. Now on the opposing end, Boston, they're

625
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 3: going to try to attack Luca as much as possible.

626
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: But we saw that on the opposing end with Minnesota,

627
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: Go Bear going at him in the post. Edward's trying

628
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: to attack him and they just I think they had

629
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: enough reps at it where they just know how to

630
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: scheme and protect him without him getting in foul trouble.

631
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be a competitive series.

632
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: But I got Dallas in six, you know, damn well,

633
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: who I got it?

634
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 5: You know I ain't.

635
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 6: Got Dallas I got Dallas, and not only because you

636
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, because I have what I have

637
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 6: against with Boston.

638
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: My thing is, at the end of the day, I

639
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: love the redemption story. I love the fact that Kyrie,

640
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: who was in a situation where literally almost nobody wanted him,

641
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and Dallas took a chance.

642
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 4: People said it wasn't gonna work. You know what I'm saying.

643
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 4: I love the fact that when you got guys like Luca,

644
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: with guys who consider system guys, and the question is

645
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 4: always can you win with a guy who's a system

646
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: like a James Harden a Luca? Can you win with

647
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: those guys? He handles the ball, he dominates the ball. Well,

648
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 4: now he's getting a chance to change down. Now he's

649
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: getting a chance to change that nat. If you can

650
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: win with a guy like Luca donkeys, you can put

651
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 4: a guy like Kyrie and Luca together. Oh and by

652
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: the way, all the teams that might have passed on Kyrie.

653
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 5: High a high he' back. You know what I'm saying.

654
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 5: I love because I love the underdog.

655
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: I'm an underdog, so I'm always gonna have you know

656
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, a soft spot for an underdog, and

657
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: it's crazy that we call one of the best players

658
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: in the league underdog. But Kyrie came from an underdog

659
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 4: situation Boston, Brooklyn. All those situations where he was painted

660
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: as a villain. We wasn't there. We don't know what

661
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: the hell happened, but just saw I'm on TV saging

662
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: and shit like that. We don't know what the story

663
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: was while he was saving in that motherfucker, but I

664
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: can imagine there's a lot of devils in there. But

665
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, he was painted to

666
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: be the villain in all those situations. So I love

667
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: to see the redemption story. I love to see him

668
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: have his day and I think he deserves it and

669
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: once again he's happy and he's embraced. And I tell

670
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: people this all the time. It was similar to when

671
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: we got Jimmy. You have a guy in a situation

672
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: in the locker room where he just does a fit

673
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: and he's painted as a villain, but all of us.

674
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: You take him out and you put him in the

675
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 4: locker room of like minded guys and pay places where

676
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 4: he's wanted, where he's appreciated, and where he's valued. And

677
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 4: then you watch the maturation and the evolution and the

678
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: growth of that player. Kyrie has a changed. All these

679
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 4: are things that Kyrie possessed. These are skills that he possessed,

680
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: These are communication skills that all these are things that

681
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: Kyrie possessed. He just didn't feel comfortable bringing him out

682
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: for whatever reason. He wasn't comfortable in those spaces. He's

683
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 4: comfortable now. He's wanted, he's appreciated, and he's growing. You

684
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: can see it off the court and on the court

685
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: with his you know, his situation. Like you said, he's

686
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: sitting at home all praise to the a Lah whatever

687
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: and enjoying his wife and kids and family. And he

688
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: said my name. So I think Kyrie for once, he's

689
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 4: happy now. And I don't know if he's had this

690
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: happiness since he played with bron in Cleveland.

691
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: Who does Who does winning a championship impact more? Luca, Kyrie,

692
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: Tatum or Jaylen brown Man.

693
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 4: I say Tatum if you ask me, because he's been

694
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 4: the golden child since he left Duke. He got it

695
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: all the way back to Duke. He's been the chosen one,

696
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you know, ever since

697
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: he's come into Boston. One thing about the two things.

698
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: For show, you got to be a hang one up

699
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: in the banners in Boston. You got to be a

700
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: hang one up in the banner. They don't care nothing

701
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: about the numbers. You could get his money numbers if

702
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 4: you want. If you don't hang.

703
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: Nothing up there.

704
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference banners.

705
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 5: No, No, that shit don't count. You know that shit

706
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 5: don't count.

707
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 4: You gotta hang one up there at least, and that's

708
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 4: only gonna get you about two years. They're gonna be

709
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: on you ass again to hang another one. And I

710
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: think that's what Tatum struggles with, and I think that's

711
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: why people continue to move the gold post for him.

712
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: It's not him as a person. It's not what he's

713
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 4: capable of. It's not his numbers. It's literally he's a

714
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 4: Boston Celtic and to whom much is given as much

715
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 4: as required less like being a Laker, you know what

716
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: I'm saying. In those situations, when you're on, when you're

717
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: in those organizations, you look at the Lakers and I

718
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: tell people all the time, the Lakers since Phil Jackson left,

719
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 4: the average coach is sitting the seat two to three years,

720
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 4: two to three years and your ass is gone because

721
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 4: the expectation is to win. Frank Vogel won one in

722
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: the bubble and his ass was gone the next year.

723
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: Your expectations is to win when you put on those

724
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: two jerseys.

725
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

726
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a it's a loaded question

727
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: because you look at Lucas situation too, Like the West

728
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: is so loaded right now. If he doesn't do it

729
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: this year, there's no guarantee the mother.

730
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: At all, not at all, not no guarantee any how

731
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: many fifty win teams did Dallas beat I mean all

732
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: of them, That's what I'm saying.

733
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: So if you don't win it this year, like it's

734
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: no guarantees, is gonna be back there? Like they had

735
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: to go through Minnesota. Uh who else they got?

736
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: I'm so clippers snippers and okay see and okay see

737
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: that's a nice run, boy, that's a tough run.

738
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: Run. That's a tough run.

739
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: When you look at it like that, like when you

740
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: talk about like the Tatum stuff. See the problem with

741
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: the Tatum stuff to me is I'm with you. You

742
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: everything you said was spot on. Obviously, the East is

743
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: a little bit easier for them right now with all

744
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 1: the injuries. Yes, but with that being said though, like

745
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: they have a small window too, and this is this

746
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: league now is becoming small pocket windows because.

747
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: They can't afford to keep that team together. Listen, there's

748
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: no way. Well, he has to get paid. He's getting

749
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: paid three five this summer.

750
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, it ain't bad. Yeah, so listen, I'm with

751
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: you on that. Let me tell you something. They went

752
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: to the Eastern Conference finals last year and still made moves.

753
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: They brought in Paisingers, they brought in Drew. You don't

754
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: make those moves unless you're trying to get over that hunt.

755
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: They gave what Drew a four year deal. They probably

756
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: got two more years, but.

757
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: Think about the locked in.

758
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean Derek White got to pay him. Yeah, uh,

759
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: this guy Drew holiday Tatum, Like, you can't. You can't

760
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: keep paying.

761
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 4: He's getting like an agent, speaking like agent. Now he

762
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 4: speaking like a boy.

763
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: You know them books.

764
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here nod in my head because I want

765
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 3: to elaborate a little more on like the numbers and up,

766
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: but I just don't want to get caught in that space.

767
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna nod my.

768
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 5: Head he's speaking like an agent and he know them numbers.

769
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: You speaking truth to power man. Yeah, it's a lot

770
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: of That's.

771
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: Why that The Luca one is more like it's interesting.

772
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: They're both they're both intriguing. Obviously, Kyrie, this comeback story

773
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call I don't call it

774
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: come back story because I think they missed it. I

775
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: think that his Kyrie has always been a great kid.

776
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: Say proper placement, yep, yeah, replacements over here. I'm telling

777
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: you right now, Sundays, I'm coming place in.

778
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: The right locker room, right organization, at the right time,

779
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: with the right people.

780
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 5: But Drew matters.

781
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: Little Drew has always been a sweetheart kid like he's

782
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: all he does is care about whop in the family.

783
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: Now, the Luca one is interesting.

784
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: Because, like we just talked about how hard the West

785
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: is right now, we ain't even talking about the old, old,

786
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: grimy Grizz are about to be healthy next year.

787
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: West is hard. The Grizz made the playoffs of job,

788
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: didn't get hurt as worse as they were.

789
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 5: Listen, and I like the girl up hold on, he

790
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 5: about to come at me.

791
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: I like the gree I do.

792
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 5: I like everything they got going on.

793
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 4: I love I love, I love them, but you you

794
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: can't say they was gonna be in there. They won

795
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 4: fifteen games this.

796
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: Year, you know I'm saying. But they're gonna better next year.

797
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the West.

798
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, they'll be better.

799
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: They want they're gonna be the top four seed next year.

800
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 5: See that's what I'm saying.

801
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: It'll definitely be top six.

802
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can't just jump to

803
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 4: top four from fifteen wins.

804
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 5: You can't do that. That's too much of a jump.

805
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 4: Hold hold on, I'm still in that Hallet I get

806
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: I know, listen, I agree. I agree that they're going

807
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: to be better, and I agree that they should make

808
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: the player. But I'm not gonna let you jump from

809
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: twenty wins to just saying number four seed. Know how

810
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 4: you gonna jump from twenty wins? How you gonna jump

811
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: from twenty wins to the foe seed?

812
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: But I just just hear me out. I'm just telling you,

813
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: and I don't want to because we're talking about the

814
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: championship now, But I'm telling you right now that team.

815
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: Is really really close.

816
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: John only played eleven games last year.

817
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 5: How many wins they had to uh huh, twenty seven,

818
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 5: but they had twenty seven total wins the year before,

819
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 5: the year before though.

820
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: Before the injury. You know, they definitely was on. They

821
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: were scaling to be a player, right three CB.

822
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: But to say from twenty seven to number four that

823
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: I just don't we that's a lot.

824
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: But put a little side action on that's a lot.

825
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: A little side action on it, that's a lot. I know,

826
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: I know what you're making right now.

827
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 5: That's a huge that's a huge jump.

828
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, without without John Morett.

829
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: That boy right there about wins, Yes, he is, and

830
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: he about to be ready to next year.

831
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: You're not saying they're not gonna make you say twenty seven,

832
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: so that puts you out forty yeah, forty seven. All

833
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying is going from twenty seven wins to the

834
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 4: number four seed and we don't see.

835
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: And des Bane missed like twenty games last year and

836
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: Jared Jackson miss game.

837
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 5: I agree with everything you're saying.

838
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 2: Smart didn't play.

839
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 4: I agree with everything you're saying. But if they jump

840
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: to the four, see who you taking out? We can

841
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: have this conversation all day.

842
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 2: Marcous Smart needed that year off with his body and everything.

843
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 2: He'd been. He gave it all at Boston.

844
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. If they go top four,

845
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm saying they can't. Who you're taking out?

846
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 4: I can think of Foe right now. That's definitely gonna

847
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: be in there.

848
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: Go for here.

849
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: Denver uh Mavericks Okay, see and the Clippers, Oh, the Clippers.

850
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 5: But you think they signed Tyler for I understand that.

851
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: But they've had Tyloo for a while now. I love Tyler.

852
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 5: We gotta see what they do with PG. Yeah, we

853
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 5: gotta see what they do with PG.

854
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: That's not a given.

855
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 5: See what they do with PG.

856
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: But and and on the flip side of it, is

857
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: Kawhi gonna play any games late next year, and there's

858
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: PG gonna play any games next year?

859
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean that we can we can do

860
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 4: flip side and see if the if the if Miff

861
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 4: is gonna be healthy next year.

862
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 5: Health has to do with everybody. If it's fifth, we

863
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 5: all be drunk.

864
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Okay.

865
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 5: I'm with you though, I like men. I like me.

866
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: Hey, so y'all have thunder Cats Memphis. I like y'all.

867
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: I do y'all know, I funk with y'all. All I'm

868
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 4: saying is from twenty seven to the four seat, we

869
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: gotta see all.

870
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: I think.

871
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: I think y'all good for twenty wins though that he's

872
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: just one of those talents.

873
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 5: Oh I agree.

874
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 4: Oh the boy got it now, he got that ship,

875
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 4: he got that ship with him. I just want to

876
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 4: see if they're gonna jump from twenty seven to the

877
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 4: foe seed. Everybody had he go get her.

878
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 5: Now.

879
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this though, because you talked about it,

880
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: you said you could. If you can sell dope, you

881
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: can sell hope. Man, big time lion. By the way,

882
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand. And I know there's a

883
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: document documentary out there about your growing up and all stuff, but.

884
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: Touch on that a little bit. Because growing up and.

885
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: Doing what you went through and then being where you're

886
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: at now, there's a street named after the role whatever

887
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: it is, there's a bunch of stuff named after you,

888
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: Like that's an unbelievable he would say three sixty, I'm

889
00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna say one to eighty.

890
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: Man, lit'ten, no, listen, I want to see Bee the

891
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: straight up talk about because when you grow up, we're

892
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: in the South, or you know what I'm saying, place

893
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 4: like this. When you think of Wisconsin, you don't think

894
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 4: of inner city, think of So I want to see

895
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 4: me to elaborate on growing up obviously in Wisconsin and Racine,

896
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 4: where he's from, in that community, because that's not the

897
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: community that when you're not from there, you don't hear

898
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 4: about that. They don't talk about that. That's the part

899
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 4: that they don't talk about. Yeah, you hear a few

900
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: stories about somebody getting in trouble here and there, but

901
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: I never heard of Racine and where he was from

902
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 4: until I met him. They never talk about that part,

903
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. That part never gets any

904
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 4: credit or never get spoken on. So just talk about

905
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 4: where you're from and you know, obviously everything that you're

906
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 4: doing now and got a name the street named after you,

907
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: and everything you've been able to do in your community.

908
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 4: But like just your flowers though, from where you're from.

909
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 5: No doubt.

910
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: Thanks bro.

911
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we migrated from Columbus, Mississippi, back in the

912
00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: early sixties. My grandmother, my uncle, and they went up

913
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: there initially for a corporate job at Ji Case to

914
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: build tractors and things like that. So once they went

915
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 3: up there and got the job, my mom and the

916
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: rest of the family still was back in Clumbssissippi. They

917
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: eventually came up, migrated up, and we settled in Racine

918
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: just because of the opportunity of that. Now people have

919
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 3: to understand that the population of black and brown people

920
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: is under fifteen percent of the state, and the population

921
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: of black people entirely is, you know, under nine percent.

922
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: And I think it's probably you know, trending the other

923
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 3: way because more people are leaving and staying just because

924
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: of the jobs and things that have moved out of

925
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: the state, like Seal Air and Johnson Wax they moved

926
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: some of they deployed out to Illinois, and a lot

927
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: of other companies have left as well. So in Sincorator,

928
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: they're still there. They're a hub, but they're doing a

929
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: great job. But just that was the reason why my

930
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 3: family migrated there, just for that employment.

931
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: Ji case.

932
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: Now fast forward to when I came into the world.

933
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: You know, from the second that I jumped off the porch,

934
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: all I saw was just, you know, pretty much what

935
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: you see in any inner city community. You know, the

936
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: drug sales, the you know, the prostitution that you know,

937
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: you name it. We saw it and I was intrigued

938
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: by it because it was you know, surface level, quick fix,

939
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: you know, success stuff where I can get access to capital,

940
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: get access.

941
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: To money real quick. Though.

942
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, eleven twelve, you know, because

943
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: I didn't have older siblings, but I had my uncle.

944
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 3: I had you know, two uncles. Actually that was really

945
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: heavy in that space, in the night life and just

946
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: on the scene, hustling and doing things to accumulate, you know, money,

947
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: And what I saw I saw garbage bags and money

948
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: coming in and the influx of capital. Just I was like, damn,

949
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: like that's different, Like how do I get tapped in

950
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: in that space? And I'll never forget one of you know,

951
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: my uncle homies, you know, gave me some some some

952
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 3: shakedown or some you know, just some stuff that they

953
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: bagged up, and it was just like the crumbs of

954
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: what was left and it was about a you know,

955
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 3: it was about a half ounce of you know, drugs.

956
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: That just was the shake up. And I went to

957
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: the street and I came back and I just never

958
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: forget the feeling one the feeling of going out there

959
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: and selling it knowing that I wasn't supposed to be

960
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: out there doing it at the age of eleven and

961
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: a half twelve, and at the time, I still was

962
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: a paperboy for the Journal Times. So I'm out there

963
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: at two three in the morning. My mom working third shift,

964
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: so nobody was looking for me. But I was just

965
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: you know, going back to the alley, going back to

966
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: the garage, going back to the alley, going back to

967
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: the garage, catching serves. And I was like, damn, like

968
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: made about eight hundred dollars that night, and school came

969
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm not even going I'm not

970
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: even doing that shit. But my mom came in, so

971
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: I just slept in the basement that first night. I

972
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 3: was like, man, I got eight hundred dollars, I'm about

973
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: to give me a little trap car all this stuff.

974
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm thinking like that already.

975
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold up, man, I want you to finish this,

976
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: but I gotta put things. At twelve years old, you

977
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: were out there, Slager came home with eight hundred.

978
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: Dollars eleven and a half twelve.

979
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I still had a paper out too, so

980
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 3: you know, I was working for the junk that was yeah,

981
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: it was it was doing that in delivering papers and

982
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: the papers that came. I didn't even deliver papers that day.

983
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: I didn't do any of the things that I was

984
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: supposed to do. But that's how I was like intriguing

985
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: and exposed to like that life.

986
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: So you skipped school, So tell me about how how

987
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: we get back into school.

988
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I start going back like later that week. It's

989
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: probably like I didn't go to school for like two

990
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: three days. And that's I don't know if anybody used

991
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: to experience this, but you had to call her ID

992
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah.

993
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, after the day people and the plug in caller ID.

994
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: So I like I took the battery out of it

995
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: and my mom couldn't see that the one eight hundred

996
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: number from the school Racing and Unified was calling saying

997
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: that I wasn't in attendance, and that was just like

998
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: how I really just took off in that space. I

999
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: end up telling my friends how much money I made

1000
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: in believe me. I was like, look, this is what

1001
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: it is. That's all you gotta do. And then I

1002
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: start going back to school, you know, probably day three,

1003
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: day four, and they started skipping to school because they

1004
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: was working for me. And so that's how like that's

1005
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: how like my whole little process started.

1006
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: So how much what's the most amount of money you

1007
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: made that year?

1008
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: I don't know a year, but I was easily making

1009
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: three four thousand dollars a week at twelve.

1010
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 4: At twelve, First of all, let me just explain this.

1011
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 4: You got to get credit where credit due as the

1012
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 4: man figured it out. People working for him. He's start

1013
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 4: going back to school. I ain't encouraging this. He's always

1014
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: mad encouraging this. Anything gonna do anything. Be a boss,

1015
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 4: don't be a worker, you know what I'm saying. The

1016
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 4: second thing, though, I really talk though all bullshit aside,

1017
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: Like when you're growing up in the inner cities and

1018
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 4: you're growing up in the hood, like your idea of

1019
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 4: success is only what you see, and it's what you

1020
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: see that as obtainable, and the only thing you see

1021
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 4: that as obtainable is the dope boys like you don't

1022
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: You ain't really thinking about what they did to get

1023
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 4: the money. This is what success looks like. The cars,

1024
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: the girls. I mean, I remember being in high school

1025
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 4: and dope boys coming up picking up high school girls,

1026
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 4: and you just sit, that's the girl you like, she

1027
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: jumped in there with the dope boy.

1028
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 5: You ain't got a chance. How do I get that Cadillac. Yes, exactly.

1029
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 4: She ain't even looking over here because he don't pull

1030
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: it up in the caddy sitting on twinies. You know

1031
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So your definition of success is that.

1032
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 4: So when people say, oh, why didn't you do something positive?

1033
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 4: Why didn't you You didn't know what was positive or negative.

1034
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 4: You just knew that was your definition of success and

1035
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 4: you wanted to be successful. You didn't think about what

1036
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 4: it took to get it. Yeah, of the consequence, you're

1037
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 4: not thinking about that. This is what sustess looks like,

1038
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: how can I get what he got? And that's what

1039
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 4: you focus on because that's what's around. You only know

1040
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 4: what you see.

1041
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: I know how it ended based on what I've seen

1042
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: and heard, but for the people at home talked about

1043
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: how you stepped out of that and then how you

1044
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: got to Yukon and all that stuff.

1045
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: So get it.

1046
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: Segue from twelve to basically Big East Player a year earlier.

1047
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that sequence like can if you

1048
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: can this process it that that went on for years,

1049
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: But also like my loitering charges and things like that,

1050
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: being outside, like a statue being in you know, raids,

1051
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 3: dope houses, the rat vand coming. I got picked up

1052
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: multiple times, just getting incarcerated for two weeks, going back,

1053
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: getting out, getting going to jail for a month, boys homes,

1054
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: stuff like that for just.

1055
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: Stended period of time. And then it was just the

1056
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: one time that.

1057
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: Really where it happened where I got locked up for

1058
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: two years, where I wasn't supposed to be going to school.

1059
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: I ended up going to school that morning to you know,

1060
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: have an exchange, you know, catch your served at JI

1061
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: case and the ATF Alcohol Tobacco firearm unit was there

1062
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: on on the grounds. I did not know that they

1063
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: had an informant meet me in the boys the boys'

1064
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: restroom in sixteen I was I think I was fourteen.

1065
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: I was like, I was, I was younger, so I

1066
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I was.

1067
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: I was a freshman that case. So fifteen fourteen and

1068
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: a half fifteen, and I went there. I had a

1069
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: half ounce of cocaine on me and I did the

1070
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: did the selle. I leave the restroom where we had

1071
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: the transaction. As I'm leaving, one of our hall monitors

1072
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: or one of the ogs in the in the school.

1073
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 3: He had saw me and I was trying to go

1074
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: to the exit door and he was like hey, Butler, like, hey,

1075
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: what are you doing. You got yeah, you gotta go

1076
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: to class, and it's like home room. I'm like, damn,

1077
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: Like all right, I went back upstairs. You know, I'm dirty,

1078
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: I got all this stuff on me and everything. And

1079
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: I sat down in the homeroom class and I'm like,

1080
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 3: all right, I just got to sit here for fifteen

1081
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 3: minutes and then I can get out. Long story short.

1082
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: Atf coming there, They're telling everybody to move to the

1083
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: side of the class and I'm like, oh shit, they

1084
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: got me.

1085
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: Like I just.

1086
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: Already felt it. I knew what it was. We had

1087
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: the windows. He was on the second floor. We had

1088
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: the windows that kind of opened. Yeah, they don't open

1089
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: all the way. So I like looked at that. I

1090
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: peeped at I was like, I can't jump. I'm like

1091
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: looking around, there's only one exit. I'm just like, damn,

1092
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 3: they got me. They just like and I knew what

1093
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 3: time it was. They like, everybody moved to that side

1094
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 3: and could you stay right there? Like I'm like, and

1095
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 3: I just stood up and let them apprehend me. Took

1096
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: me downstairs. I saw the informant. It was a it

1097
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: was a gun in a locker that they found as well.

1098
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: And you know, long story short, it wasn't mine. The

1099
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: pistol wasn't mine. But I took the case because I

1100
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: already got caught dirty with this, so I might as

1101
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: well just took you. I just said, this is every

1102
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 3: this give it to me like it is what it is.

1103
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: And I took the hit. And you know, I end

1104
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: up doing eighteen months off the two years. But when

1105
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: I got out, it was just like I I really

1106
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: feel like I was rehabilitated because of sitting still and

1107
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: during that process, like reading the Koran, getting my visits

1108
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: from my mentors and people that really trusted me and

1109
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: poured into me, that told me that I can pivot

1110
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 3: and make a change and not be recycled in this system.

1111
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: I got out, I started playing basketball. Muslim brother by

1112
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: the name of Jamil Laguarire hooked me up with this

1113
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: AAU traveling team and I start traveling around the world

1114
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: with a bracelet on everything, and I got ranked in

1115
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 3: the country. That led to me going to m C

1116
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 3: I going to a prep school with Max Good, legendary coach.

1117
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: Legendary coach.

1118
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you a question, though, because I have

1119
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: to know this from me personally.

1120
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so be prior to.

1121
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: Getting locked up, were you were you a hooper?

1122
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? So you you played so I.

1123
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 5: Always has I side not nothing organized though he was

1124
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 5: never never.

1125
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: Slang, a little slang, a little something hit, a couple

1126
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: of jumpers lead.

1127
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: I did not. I'm I'm gonna keep it an.

1128
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: I didn't know I was nice until I got locked

1129
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: up where we started gambling for you know, the zebra

1130
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: cakes and yeah, it was like all the canteen ship.

1131
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: So it was a dude by the name of Serpene

1132
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: that was in Wales. He was like the superintendent overall

1133
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 3: the like the unit. I think it was Juno the

1134
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: place where I was locked up at first, the cottage,

1135
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 3: and he was like, man, you got sides, I think

1136
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 3: you could play. And he had me playing one on

1137
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 3: one against like all the inmates, dudes that got life,

1138
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: dudes that got whatever all the time in the world.

1139
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 3: And I'm playing against these dudes. They like, damn, like

1140
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 3: he nice. And that's when I was like, Damn, I'm

1141
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 3: better than all these dudes because my talent was never

1142
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 3: put on full display like that. I used to play

1143
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: pick up at the corner shoot a couple, and then

1144
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, oh, I gotta serve at work. Yeah,

1145
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 3: but it was like damn, like he can hoop, like

1146
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 3: he really can hoop.

1147
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: Wo.

1148
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: I got I gotta try try to vision this. So

1149
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: that's why I'm asking these question. So you're sixteen in

1150
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: here against dudes, in there for life and hooping against

1151
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 1: these dudes.

1152
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't no flowers, ain't no nothing. You have someone

1153
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 2: that I just have to worry. No, No, I.

1154
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 5: Just got to say this one thing.

1155
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 4: And I understand that things might have worked out better

1156
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: for you in the long run, but you gotta be

1157
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 4: a dirty motherfucker to be a confiditional informing on a

1158
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 4: fourteen year old.

1159
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 5: Whoever you are. I hope you feel good about yourself.

1160
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 5: I hope you feel good about yourself. You was fucking fourteen.

1161
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 5: You gotta be if you you just gotta be a

1162
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 5: dirty motherfucker. I hope you feel good. I know it

1163
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 5: worked out for the better, but I just had to

1164
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 5: say that, who the fuck are you?

1165
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, but thank god it did happen.

1166
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 5: I know it did, thank God it did.

1167
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: But goddamn the time and everything it was perfect.

1168
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 4: God, I know you know this because from being in

1169
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 4: South Dakota. But crack stink you cooking and cutting that shit.

1170
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: That ship is stank. That shit is So I was

1171
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 4: just being honest.

1172
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: Man.

1173
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 5: There's a lot of that ship that could have went

1174
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 5: the other way. Man.

1175
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 4: But I'm appreciative for you being here because obviously you

1176
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 4: end up being my og. But I just had to

1177
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 4: say that you're a dirty motherfucker. Whoever you are, you

1178
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 4: ain't lying.

1179
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: So you go, you out of the au circuit, you

1180
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: start hooping. You kind of who else is recruiting?

1181
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: I mean everybody, not everybody, because I had worried about

1182
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: your past. They didn't know until after the peace Jam

1183
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: I got I think it was the Peace Jam or

1184
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: the Indiana Tournament. I think I was like thirty nine

1185
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: at the piece. It was something crazy, But I got this.

1186
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 5: There in Georgia, right, Yeah, but.

1187
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: This is my first like time playing like on the

1188
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: circuit or anything.

1189
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 5: He had been playing in prison and grown ass. Man.

1190
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 5: He got damn pe ja. Yeah.

1191
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 3: When they started doing that background check, it was like

1192
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: is he eligible? Is it clearinghouse? Like they start asking

1193
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 3: these questions. They're like, no, he's fresh out. She got

1194
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 3: a bracelet on and now it's like the only coaches

1195
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: Guy Ris is Soul, John Thompson, Mike Jarvis for real.

1196
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: Gs Don Crenshaw from Nike.

1197
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: Uh what's the brother name that grabbed?

1198
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: Uh?

1199
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: Uh he grabbed the Martin Luther King's speech after he

1200
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: did it.

1201
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: Oh that's a coach.

1202
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was coach at USC. Yeah he worked

1203
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 2: for yeah forever.

1204
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 5: Yeah no, no coach for USC. Yeah.

1205
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 2: He grabbed the doctor mar Luther King. Yes, well he drafted.

1206
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: Speech.

1207
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: Who was it? Okay?

1208
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: George Ravelin like he was like got me in the

1209
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: system where uh I was a Nike kid immediately and

1210
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: he was just like all right, we like they took

1211
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 3: me under their umbrothers, like hey, we're gonna help you

1212
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 3: through this process.

1213
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: They gave us the resources that we need.

1214
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: At the community center, and that kind of just ushered

1215
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 3: me down the path.

1216
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 2: Be straight.

1217
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 4: Take a village stories that you don't know, man, they

1218
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 4: take a village boy, that's dope.

1219
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: I keep telling folks all the time, like for those

1220
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: who go back to their communities and go through this

1221
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: process of service, like a like a bad community nine

1222
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: times out of ten would change you before you change it.

1223
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: So you got to like have the mental stability to

1224
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 3: like process that and like just be so tactical in

1225
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 3: your approach on how you become successful. And I had

1226
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: a strong village of people like that.

1227
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 4: Man, I tell people all the time, and that's what

1228
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 4: I tell a lot of the young guys for the

1229
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 4: heat and you know, any other young guy who I

1230
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 4: got a chance to have their ear in the off season.

1231
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 4: When you go back home, just take an hour and

1232
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: go sit down with the commissioner. Go sit down with

1233
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: the mayor. They would love to have you in the office.

1234
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 4: They would open up the doors and roll out the

1235
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 4: red coffeet for you.

1236
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 2: Whatever.

1237
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 4: Just sit down there and they'll tell you everything that's

1238
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 4: going in your community, how you can help, where you

1239
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: can help, all that shit that you want to do.

1240
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 4: They got to sign off on it anyway. All our

1241
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 4: money don't matter when they come to politics. You need

1242
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 4: those people. So to go down and you you at home,

1243
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 4: do a little more than throw a party in your city,

1244
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 4: little more than throw something at the club. Go sit

1245
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 4: down with the people in the community and they'll tell

1246
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 4: you what they need. They'll tell you how to help them.

1247
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: You said you said some powerful thing there though, like

1248
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: and it's important for it's important for young player with OG.

1249
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: We start OG's to help these guys the same thing

1250
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 1: you're doing now and coaching and stuff. But it's very

1251
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: what you said was very important. Is what I say

1252
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: for all these young guys coming up is like you said,

1253
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: an environment, a bad environment will change you before you

1254
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: change it. It's likely it's the same way with the

1255
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: kids coming up. The people around you. Yeah, it's that important, right, Like,

1256
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: you get enough bad people around you, you're gonna probably

1257
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: change and adapt with them before they're gonna adapt to

1258
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: what you do.

1259
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 2: That's real shit.

1260
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 5: You definitely got to get to the point where you

1261
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 5: got good people around you.

1262
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 3: In every city you go to right now, for the

1263
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 3: young players, like I think this was a vehicle for

1264
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 3: me to just like operate and do like fundraising and

1265
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: stuff like that from a business standpoint, Just like you're

1266
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: on a free business trip for the most part in

1267
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: all these cities. So make sure that you're executing it

1268
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 3: properly by like meeting with executives and things like that

1269
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 3: from different walks of life. Because you're you're able to

1270
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: have meetings because you don't have the letters X in

1271
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: front of your name right now, so everybody would be

1272
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 3: it's a luxury to have that meeting. You know, you

1273
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 3: have to use that leverage because once you do put

1274
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 3: the X in front of your name, it's a little

1275
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: harder if you're not a visible face on television or

1276
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: a podcast that's doing numbers and streams and people see

1277
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 3: you out there, if you're not being an asset to

1278
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: something that's bigger than yourself, now, it's gonna be harder

1279
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: to have that meeting. They don't give a shit about

1280
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: your name quickly, just immediately, and I don't care who

1281
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 3: you are, Like every player go through that, So just

1282
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: like make sure you're maximizing that during this time as

1283
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: an active player.

1284
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: If you listen to that, that's just food for thought.

1285
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: No, it's I mean, for all these kids, you gotta

1286
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: understand your time. Your time is and it goes fast,

1287
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: is limited, and you got you got a foundation to

1288
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: make an impact for a little bit of time.

1289
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: Once you say you put an.

1290
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: X in front of it, like you said, you can

1291
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: still get it, but it's a lot more word to Yeah.

1292
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, that twenty years went fast than quick, quick, quick,

1293
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 4: And the best thing I could have did was pay

1294
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 4: attention to guys like yourself, guys like Dwayne and these

1295
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 4: guys that have already retired, and I watched you guys

1296
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 4: as you guys went through retirement, and you guys never

1297
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 4: took your foot off the gas. You never took You

1298
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 4: just took the way you approach the game of basketball

1299
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 4: and apply to somewhere else. And tell people this all

1300
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 4: the time. Heat culture. It don't just work in the

1301
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: organization and on the basketball court. That shit working life

1302
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 4: and in business. If you can have the discipline to

1303
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 4: approach the same the pros things in life the same

1304
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 4: way you approach that shit when we step in out arena.

1305
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: If you can have that discipline, then you can be

1306
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 4: successful outside of that arena because that shit works.

1307
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 5: That it works.

1308
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 2: People don't talk about that enough.

1309
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: Like people obviously we talk about the culture and what

1310
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: it is, but it's like it'll teach you how to

1311
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: be an asset. Whether you're the last man on the bench,

1312
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: whether you who my star player is. I say, Scott

1313
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 3: girkha is my star player, like he's the bridge to everything.

1314
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: And then whether you're Dan in the film room, whether

1315
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: you're Mario, whether you're Maggie where whether you all the

1316
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 3: way up to the godfather, whether you are head coach,

1317
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 3: spoil whatever. Like everybody has these rolls and everybody's starring

1318
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 3: the rolls, but you also understand the importance of like

1319
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: being consistent in those spaces. And I think you can

1320
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 3: just immediately pivot into the business space and be like, damn,

1321
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: these are all attributes that I can take into this

1322
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: walk of life and make me successful. These conversations that

1323
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 3: I'm having in the locker room and at these meeting,

1324
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 3: at these functions, I can take these tactics and take

1325
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: it into my household and like pour into my kids

1326
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: and make them a better version of themselves in ten

1327
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: xt their process. So I think that I just think

1328
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: that sports sports do that. It's so many parallels and

1329
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 3: sports in life, but especially here in what we do,

1330
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 3: like we double down on all that shit, no.

1331
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: Doubt, are real quick going into our prize pick segment

1332
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: and ud, what does prize picks do?

1333
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 4: Man? They give out Listen here, man, this is just

1334
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 4: our opinion. Don't be writing the OG podcast. Don't be

1335
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 4: DM and us complaining and talking that shit. We alright

1336
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 4: tied to tie opinion. It's nothing more as nothing less,

1337
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 4: and probably we don't care what you think.

1338
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 5: Prize pick, Let's do it. The prize Pta understand.

1339
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 4: See this ain't got nothing to do with you, but

1340
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 4: we have an opinion and people just try to light

1341
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 4: us up.

1342
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: It's our observation on what you just asked exactly.

1343
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 5: That's all of this get mad at us.

1344
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: We want to do so this prize pick segment is

1345
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: the top five coaches in the league today out of

1346
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: all time, who you played for in the league today.

1347
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: Who's your top five coaches in the league today.

1348
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm gonna right off the top coach supposed

1349
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 3: to You already know what Tim ready veto.

1350
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna go with.

1351
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 3: Pop tylu Jay Kiddy, and then lastly, this is a

1352
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: tough one, but I'm gonna go Rick Carlisle.

1353
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 5: I thought you was gonna say that.

1354
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 4: I don't know what the Rick was doing last playoff series,

1355
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 4: and I thought you was gonna say that because I

1356
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 4: seen it firsthand that championship that we lost to Dallas.

1357
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 5: Rick was on his ship. Yeah, it was on his

1358
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 5: ship when they coached.

1359
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 4: Had he had a tough run this playoff against Boston

1360
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 4: Because it was a couple of things that we all

1361
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 4: saw the world saw that, but once again, we're not

1362
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 4: in those huddles. It could have been called one way

1363
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 4: and executed differently. We don't know what the situation was,

1364
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 4: but I agree with you. Rick should definitely be on

1365
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 4: that list. Rick and coaches asshole.

1366
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know Rick, but at least the one

1367
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: thing I liked about Rick, even in those tough situations,

1368
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: he set and owned it too.

1369
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: I shaid have done this, I shaid have done that.

1370
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't there. Fall was my fault. He knows that's coaching.

1371
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 4: Bro.

1372
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if I can make a

1373
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: change that.

1374
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 5: Can you know I can't make a change of that.

1375
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 5: I'm with that.

1376
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 4: I'm with that seven days a week or twice on Sunday,

1377
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 4: especially the Tayloos and the Jay kids, and you know,

1378
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 4: just the ex players that own that list got personal relationships.

1379
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 4: When I see those guys, we played against each other,

1380
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 4: but in my role that I was in and they

1381
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 4: rolled that they was in, they always took the time

1382
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 4: out to give me advice.

1383
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 5: Hey man, I love what you're doing.

1384
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 4: Keep doing what you're doing, player, as long as you

1385
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 4: can keep giving these guys knowledge, keep taking care of

1386
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 4: these young guys.

1387
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 5: They need that.

1388
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 4: So it was always encouraging whenever I ran to Jason

1389
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 4: Kidd or Taylou and they was retired. But that was

1390
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 4: the words that they had for me, you know what

1391
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I love to see them on that list.

1392
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 3: You got to look at all those guys I mentioned too.

1393
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: This from from another observation. If you if you can

1394
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 3: the fans out there that's gonna see it, are they

1395
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 3: maximizing every talent on the roster because so many times

1396
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: you can see and it's no knock to the coach

1397
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 3: because you know, usage and all that stuff. When you

1398
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: got great players, you got great players, you just follow

1399
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: the momentum. But it's it's very intriguing now being on

1400
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 3: this side of things, just to watch how you get

1401
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: the most out of every guy on the roster. Yeah,

1402
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 3: that's why that list was easy for me. Just yes,

1403
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 3: check that box.

1404
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 2: They do a great job, I think.

1405
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 4: And that's a great point because it's easy to maximize

1406
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 4: your two best players and tell the other three out

1407
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 4: there to figure it out.

1408
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 5: And I think that's what a lot of coaches do.

1409
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 4: But if you can maximize all five of the guys

1410
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 4: that's on the court, at the same time. Then you

1411
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 4: don't figure some shit out. And I mean you had

1412
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 4: to go to work and get in the lab because

1413
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 4: that shit just happened overnight. You got to get in

1414
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 4: the lab to get that going.

1415
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: They don't know nothing about Orgon Trill. That's an old game,

1416
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 3: right there, Orgon Trill about that.

1417
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: I like that list. That's a good list.

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01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the hell of the list. I can't I'll

1419
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 5: get that list.

1420
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: We're here at the OGS, man, we're a man of

1421
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 1: the people. We got some fan questions for you man,

1422
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: for your og like us. All right, first fan question,

1423
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: most memorable moment playing with Kobe Man. I love Kobe's story,

1424
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: so I'm with this guy.

1425
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 3: It's crazy because I have two one I never told one.

1426
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 3: I kind of touch on it often. The time we

1427
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: was in Charlotte, and I forget the coach. I don't

1428
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 3: know if it was Rudy T or Frank Hamlin. It

1429
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: was drawing up a play because Rudy T left halfway

1430
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 3: through the season, so it might have been Frank Hamlin.

1431
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: But whoever our coach was at the time, he was

1432
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 3: drawing up to play Kobe just like kind of like

1433
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,479
Speaker 3: the board real quick he was like, hey, who who

1434
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 3: the fuck want to be part of history? And everybody

1435
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 3: and everybody was like Lamar was like, ship, I want

1436
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: to be part of history. Like he's like, you take

1437
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 3: the ball out, I'm gonna get open right here, throw

1438
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: it to me. Everybody run like out the damn out

1439
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 3: the tunnel game. And that's this story dog Like real time,

1440
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 3: he like shit like you like nobody knew where to

1441
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 3: go on the court.

1442
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, he's gonna catch it somewhere right here.

1443
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: Just get the fuck out the way.

1444
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: And that's that's what happened. In real time. He was like,

1445
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: just whoever want to be part of history? Throw me

1446
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 3: the ball right I'm gonna be right here. And that's

1447
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 3: what happened. But I think, uh, just after everything, like

1448
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 3: all the adversity that we was going through, the shack

1449
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: trade and all that, and I never forget we was

1450
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: in Denver.

1451
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 2: This story I never told.

1452
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: He was just like sitting there on the bench and

1453
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: he just start like closing his eyes and put his

1454
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 3: hands up and I'm like, damn, what is he Like

1455
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 3: what is he doing? And Melvin Hunt, who was the

1456
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 3: assistant coach at the time, He's he's like like.

1457
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: Like what is he doing?

1458
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 3: He said, and he just like stood up, and I

1459
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 3: was processing all that shit because it was like, you know,

1460
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 3: booing up and everything.

1461
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: He was like, I'm gonna win another.

1462
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 3: Fucking three four titles and I want to I want

1463
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 3: to win a championship in this building. And then the

1464
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 3: serena and I was just like, damn, like this like

1465
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 3: him being wired like that in that moment, and we

1466
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 3: was getting our ass kicked, probably about twenty five thirty points,

1467
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: but just him just like tapping in and I'm just

1468
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: trying to get through the game.

1469
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, shit, I got eleven points. I'm trying to

1470
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: score thirteen.

1471
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: And he's thinking like yeah, he's he's in a shitty

1472
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: moment talking about how good it's gonna be.

1473
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see, I see chips, I see and I

1474
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 3: gotta remember this. I gotta add this on as for

1475
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 3: my motivation during my process, Like it was just it

1476
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 3: was just crazy how he was.

1477
01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: Like wired like that.

1478
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: And I'll never forget he just always told me and

1479
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 3: talk to me about and this is what we always

1480
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 3: have dialogue about, just your second act, like what's like,

1481
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: what's next, Like even when you're in the process of

1482
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 3: what you're doing. What's next? Like what is next? Like,

1483
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 3: don't don't celebrate that ship? All right, good, congrats on

1484
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: your new deal whatever, but like what's next? Like, what's next?

1485
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 3: That's my favorite favorite? Uh, Kobe memory as well, that's beautiful.

1486
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: Next question, the toughest player to guard?

1487
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 3: Uh, I would say Kobe or Team.

1488
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 5: Mat Yeah, yeah, that ship.

1489
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: Steve Francis too, Like people don't talk enough about Steve Francis.

1490
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: He went franchise, was a franchise. He's a problem.

1491
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: He started going to his story foul him dancing him

1492
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: and Jamal Crawford every time they went to that wiggle stuff.

1493
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't doing that, which I got to you

1494
01:05:58,720 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: gart him.

1495
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 4: Killers say that wiggle stuff. They started doing that wiggle

1496
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 4: stuff on.

1497
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 5: That wiggle.

1498
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I did that helped me. I ain't gonna let

1499
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: him start dancing on black black.

1500
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 5: Sit the black, come hurry, get it out of his hand.

1501
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: Besides my man, the og over there, who's an NBA

1502
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: player that everyone respected him, were slightly afraid of.

1503
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 3: Uh, it's a handful of guys.

1504
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 2: I think, oh, one't respected.

1505
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 3: I think, oh, you know, uh, Chauncey Bill Up, somebody

1506
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 3: who a lot of people respected just that standpoint.

1507
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 4: Expect for Chauncey, another O G who I saw on

1508
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 4: the sidelines at Portland, same thing, giving me advice.

1509
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 5: Hey man, we love what you're doing.

1510
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 4: It was just a lot of encouraging support from those

1511
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 4: guys that was on the court with me, and they

1512
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 4: crossed over to the coaching side and when they saw

1513
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 4: what I was doing, it was just all love and support.

1514
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 4: So David it's another name. We Yeah, he was a

1515
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 4: tough one. He was a tough one. Tough one like.

1516
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: Dudes that stood on big is that ze Bo?

1517
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Zeboy stood on that business man Kevin Kenya Indiana business.

1518
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Will stayed on business differently.

1519
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 4: Differently, we talk about a lot of guys that don't

1520
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 4: play no mode and knock your goddamn blockoff.

1521
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

1522
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: That's a good seguey because the next question I was

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01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: pulled up your thoughts on the level of toughness in

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01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: today's NBA on.

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01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 5: The scale of win the team. Yeah, three, it's not

1526
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 5: a knock.

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01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 4: It's just league. That's okay, It's okay, it's not it's

1528
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 4: not they want more scoring.

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01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 5: They want I heard.

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01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: Say, which I thought was really really good. They said,

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01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think the league is soft.

1532
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: Think the rules are what they're they're changing.

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01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:37,479
Speaker 5: It's the rules.

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01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 4: They want to see more scoring, they want to see

1535
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 4: more athleticism, they want to see all excited.

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01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: I think I think that's a fair assessment, right, Like

1537
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: it's not after y'all solve it.

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01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm not going I'm not saying the players

1539
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 4: aren't necessarily soft. I'm just saying the rules have softened

1540
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 4: the league.

1541
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: Man speeding it up.

1542
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: Hey when we played through there, and I ain't trying

1543
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: to be the guy who walked up the Hills school

1544
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 1: both ways, but gush, damn these were tough.

1545
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. The guys were talking about, oh man, like.

1546
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: You go cross, Cliff Robinson, Eric Coleman, Coleman see drop

1547
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: like you just just swipe and break your hand.

1548
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah.

1549
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: Different, what like different? Different?

1550
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: Last while, I'm gonna give you this one because UD

1551
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,839
Speaker 1: sitting here too. How special was that team that featured

1552
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: you d Wade Skip l O E J. Yeah, right, man?

1553
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: That was that was special?

1554
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 3: You know what I always and I've been on a

1555
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 3: lot of different teams, played with seven eight organizations, and

1556
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 3: I always go back to that team, just like what

1557
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 3: what the hell would have happened? Like if we would

1558
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 3: have been able to stay together just because we was young,

1559
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 3: the core, the nucleus, everything. I felt like Miami was

1560
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 3: just starting to trend, like from from a basketball you know,

1561
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 3: it's all football, but it was just like it was happening.

1562
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 3: I was like, damn you young where you got Like

1563
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 3: what what? What would have happened that team? But now

1564
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 3: we're all back pouring in in a different way, So

1565
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 3: it's it's still special league. Yes, you know, obviously he

1566
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 3: on the bench doing his thing as well as amazing

1567
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 3: basketball mind, so, but I always think about, like what

1568
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 3: would have happened with that squad.

1569
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: It was a special group. It was a younger. That

1570
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 2: team was fun too.

1571
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 4: Team we had and we had a lot of fun. Yeah,

1572
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 4: signed l O and free agency. Lo had just came

1573
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 4: from that hell of a year with the Clippers.

1574
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: He was so good too, man.

1575
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, it.

1576
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 4: Was probably the too funniest skip in LLO together New

1577
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 4: York or York dudes.

1578
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 5: New York dudes up. They funny as ship.

1579
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 4: But listen, after every practice, don't get it started, be

1580
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 4: cause they're gonna play one on one any any kind

1581
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 4: of argument. They could be arguing about motherfucking the bubble

1582
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 4: gum and the motherfucking in over there across by the basketball,

1583
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 4: and it's gonna turn into one on one anybody. If

1584
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 4: you're from New York, you in all conversations.

1585
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 5: With one on one.

1586
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 4: Whoever went one on one just win the conversation. That's

1587
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 4: how they do in New York. If you from New York,

1588
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 4: you just go play one on one basketball or whoever

1589
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 4: won on one basketball, that's who won the conversation.

1590
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: Facts. Shit, But hey, man, I appreciate you coming in

1591
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 2: for real. This is amazing. Let me yeah, man, appreciate you.

1592
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: See the story, the stuff you told like I've known

1593
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: about it, but listening to that and where you're at now.

1594
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: Signed a new four year deal.

1595
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: Place what's sixteen years in the league. Yeah, yeah, all

1596
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: Star got ban NBA Champ.

1597
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 4: One of my OG's obviously were about the same age,

1598
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 4: but one of my OG's. I appreciate you, man for

1599
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 4: not always holding it down when you was in the league,

1600
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 4: but when you retired and when you came over to

1601
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 4: the coaching staff, it was a breath of fresh at

1602
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 4: for me be able to sit down and have a

1603
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 4: conversation with ask somebody questions, and you know I've asked

1604
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 4: you questions plenty of times, and it's never about basketball.

1605
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 4: This is just about life and about being a man

1606
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 4: and just being on this other side. So I appreciate you, Dog,

1607
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1608
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for coming that this real got og

1609
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah oh yeah yeah, before we leave. We can't do

1610
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: this because this man shines this moment. We got the

1611
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 1: OGI advice.

1612
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 5: Got the OG advice.

1613
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna take a quote from my man, Karen Butler,

1614
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 4: if you could say, dope, you can show for show

1615
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 4: Man anything in life, Man that you want to do, Man,

1616
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 4: you can do it.

1617
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 5: Man.

1618
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 4: You talk about Karan, who came from where he came

1619
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 4: from at ten years old, you know what I'm saying,

1620
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 4: jumping off the porch and making his own decision that

1621
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 4: could have affected his life, but you know, turned it

1622
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 4: around and where he's at today, obviously Mike growing up

1623
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 4: a South Dakota slinging rocks and then pushing, pushing, pushing birds,

1624
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying. You see where he's

1625
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 4: at today, you know what I mean. So anybody can

1626
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 4: be here in these chairs doing anything. Man, You put

1627
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 4: yourself in the right situation, around the right people, figure

1628
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 4: it out and put your mind to something.

1629
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 5: Man, don't let nobody stop you.

1630
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: If you can sell dope, sell hope. Appreciate you see me,

1631
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: Appreciate G's out man.

1632
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 2: Thank you.