1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Brainstuff, a production of iHeartRadio, Hey Brainstuff, Lauren 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Vogelbaum here. For as much as cigars give off smoke 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: that'll stick to your clothes, they've also spawned some similarly 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: sticky idioms In the English language. There's sometimes a cigar 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: is just a cigar, a meaning that you can't always 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: attribute Fredian sub meetings to things. The quote is often 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: attributed to Freud himself, but that seems to be apocryphal. 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Another one that's slightly old fashioned but still kicking around 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: is what we need is a good five cent cigar, 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: which was popularized in the nineteen teens by then Vice 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: President of the United States Thomas Riley Marshall. If you're unfamiliar, 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: it means that what we need is something that's sensibly 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: affordable but still pragmatically useful, as opposed to something overly 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: complicated or expensive. He said it during a senate debate 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: about our country's needs. But perhaps more common these days, 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: if not less old fashioned, there's the phrase close but 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: no cigar. Oh. When someone said this to you, you 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: probably didn't ask for a cigar. Maybe you don't even 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: like them. So why is someone abruptly denying you one. 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: This phrase is most often used when someone is nearly 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: but not quite successful at something like a football player 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: drops an easy catch, or a desperate commuter runs but 23 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: misses their bus pulling away from the bus stop, or 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: a math student doesn't catch a critical detail and screws 25 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: up their whole equation. These are all situations worthy of 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: a close but no cigar. The gist is obvious to 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: anyone who grew up hearing it spoken among their friends 28 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: and family. Yet even if you understand what close but 29 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: no cigar means, you might wonder exactly where this idiom originated. 30 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: After all, what do cigars have to do with success? 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: It turns out cigars were once used as prizes for 32 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: carnival games in the United States in the early nineteen hundreds. 33 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: These games of skill or chance were often exasperatingly difficult, 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: and most people failed to win a prize. Such games 35 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: are still a feature of fairs today. Think of ring 36 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: tosses that never seemed to land, or basketball hoops that 37 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: spit out every ball thrown their way. When cigars were 38 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: the prizes. After a participant failed, a carnival barker or 39 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: the game runner might shout close but no cigar. The 40 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: phrase close but no Cigar appeared in the script for 41 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: the nineteen thirty five film Annie Oakley, but there were 42 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: earlier recorded uses, both in sports reporting and in national 43 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: geographic magazine. No matter who printed it first, it seems 44 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: that the phrase traveled quickly through the American vernacular because 45 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: of the way that carnivals moved from place to place. 46 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: In an article for the magazine Cigar Ficionado, the editor 47 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: of the Yale Book of Quotations, wrote that the game 48 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: in question was specifically one of those games of strength 49 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: called the high ball or high striker, where the player 50 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: uses a large hammer to strike a lever and send 51 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: a weight to high enough up a column to ring 52 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: a bell at the top. But it seems that several 53 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: different games might have inspired the phrase, and in other 54 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: countries as well. In nineteen oh two, a book called 55 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: The Night Side of London described many social scenes and 56 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: entertainments throughout Bustling Edwardy in London, including a traveling carnival 57 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: with games to play. A quote another penny gives you 58 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: the privilege of trying to roll three balls into certain 59 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: holes with numbers attached there on two. Should you score twenty, 60 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: you will win a cigar, but you do no more 61 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: than score nine. Undiscouraged or perhaps encouraged by this fact, 62 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: you spend another penny, and another and another, but you 63 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: don't get the cigar. And it is well for you 64 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: that you don't, for there are cigars and cigars on 65 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: you go, and next you try your hand at the coconuts, 66 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: or the skittles, or the clay pipes, or in the 67 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: shooting alleys, and so on and on until your stock 68 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: of pennies and patience is exhausted. Cigars are no longer 69 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: offered as prizes to carnival goers, though these days we 70 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: have to settle for oversized stuffed animals or the like. 71 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: Today's episode is based on the article why do we 72 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: say close but no Cigar? On HowStuffWorks dot Com, written 73 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: by Nathan Chandler. Brain Stuff is production of by Heart 74 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: Radio in partnership with hostuffwork dot Com and is produced 75 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: by Tyler Klang. For more podcasts from my heart Radio, 76 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen 77 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows.