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Speaker 1: Oh, a good time. I'll watch Steve Claspers. That's not time.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's how we get things started every day. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. It is One Bills Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Colaida Health. Hello everybody. I'm John Murphy, joined down the

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Speaker 1: line by co host Steve Tasker. Hello, Stevie. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing today? Doing good? Murph? How was your evening

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Speaker 1: last night? Very quiet? Um imagine that? Yeah, very quiet? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what was on ESPN was the It's a

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Speaker 1: It's a classic Monday Night game. It didn't turn out

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Speaker 1: well for the Bills, but the two thousand and seven

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Speaker 1: Monday night matchup between the Bills and the Cowboys. Dallas

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Speaker 1: won it on the last second field goal, the second

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Speaker 1: of two fifty three yard field goals made by um

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Speaker 1: Nick Folk. And it was an amazing game. I broadcast

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Speaker 1: that game back in two thousand and seven. I remember,

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Speaker 1: and I don't usually react too emotionally to wins or losses,

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Speaker 1: but that game, I sat in the booth for maybe

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Speaker 1: a half hour just shaking my head, like, what the

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Speaker 1: heck happened here? I mean, they had it. They absolutely

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Speaker 1: had that game, and the Cowboys came back and won it.

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Speaker 1: Wade Phillipson. The Cowboys came back and beat picked around

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Speaker 1: see whether it was compelling. Why did you see any

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Speaker 1: of that? Did you watch any of that last night? See? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about it today. It was an amazing

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Speaker 1: comeback win for the Cowboys and an amazing collapse by

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Speaker 1: the Bills. I mean the Cowboys recovered an outside kick.

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Speaker 1: There was all kinds of efficiating issues and replays and

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, it was crazy. It was crazy that

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Speaker 1: that one got away from the Bills. I would call

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Speaker 1: me an absolutely crushed that night. And the crowd was amazing.

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Speaker 1: It was two thousand and seven, early in the season.

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Speaker 1: I think it was first week in October Monday night football,

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Speaker 1: first time there was Monday night football in Orchard Park

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Speaker 1: just got just got away. It was it was nuts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember, didn't Leotas have a kickoff return? And that yeah,

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Speaker 1: It was yeah, who did it? And they had two

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Speaker 1: kick two interceptions returned for touchdowns. I think George Wilson

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Speaker 1: it was crazy the stuff going on. And yeah, Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Dallas and Cowboys were unbeaten. Instead, they go to five

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Speaker 1: with that loss. Just ridiculous season. The Bill finished seven

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Speaker 1: I don't know, might want to start with that. Well.

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Speaker 1: I also, you ever watched two shows at once? You

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Speaker 1: you use the rewind function, right. Yeah, So I watched simultaneously.

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Speaker 1: I watched parts two and three of The Lands Dance

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's story, and that was pretty good. I didn't

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Speaker 1: you know, when it was first aired. Uh, it is riveting. Uh.

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Speaker 1: awesome to hear, and it's you know, they go back

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Speaker 1: And they mixed storylines about Michael Jordan and other players,

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Speaker 1: really well told by Michael Jordan. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: good things. Yeah, it was really fun to watch last night.

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Speaker 1: So I'm all caught up on the last Dance. So

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Speaker 1: It's great television. It really Yes, the Last Dance and

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Speaker 1: Happy to have you with us. We are radio coverage only.

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Speaker 1: Eventually we'll get back on TV on MSG but not

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Speaker 1: good show today. A couple of days after the draft

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Speaker 1: One o'clock a draft rebut from Marcella. Louis Jacques covers

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Speaker 1: covering the Bills for ESPN and at two college football

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Speaker 1: insider Bruce Beldman. He wrote the book The Quarterback, How

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Speaker 1: he developed Quarterbacks in the modern age. He's got good

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Speaker 1: from see what he thinks about the Bills drafting from Steve,

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Speaker 1: I think I'll have some things to say about Dana. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and From beat him both out. Yeah. The team that

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Speaker 1: it would be nice. Yeah, maybe it'll be thirty second,

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Speaker 1: but first round. Nonetheless, if it's thirty second pick, maybe

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Speaker 1: you and I'll go down there. Following free agency, drafts

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Speaker 1: and the draft and trades, which position group got the

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Speaker 1: most help so far in offseason for the Bills. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to the Tweetcheet brought you by Cargan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffo Bills. Gold Billers says

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Speaker 1: defensive line got the most help, wide receivers the best help.

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Speaker 1: The running backs have two players on rookie contracts for

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Speaker 1: the next three years. Solid interesting, interesting take. Yeah, defensive

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Speaker 1: line got the bodies, but wide receivers got the premium

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Speaker 1: body obviously, and stuff on Diggs. I think that's the point.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to make a good point, and that kind

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Speaker 1: of splits up the argument really well. And he's right.

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Speaker 1: The defensive line got the top draft pick available to

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Speaker 1: the Bills, and the number two, the number fifty four pick,

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Speaker 1: and then uh, but the wide receivers got a guy

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Speaker 1: who is one of the top five receivers probably in

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Speaker 1: the National Football league. Yeah, that's it's a good way

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Speaker 1: to screw up that argument, right, Um, But I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's a question. I think I don't know best.

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Speaker 1: Does best not mean the most? No? Not really? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's our questions the most most? Here's one from the

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Speaker 1: kool Aid what a tough ball pole? The D line

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Speaker 1: had the most losses, while we only lost one running

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Speaker 1: back and no wide receivers, So in terms of filling

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Speaker 1: vacated holes, the D line has more new faces. But

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Speaker 1: I feel the additions at wide receiver and running back

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Speaker 1: will help us score more points, which was our biggest

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Speaker 1: offseason need, especially digs. Another good point, similar, similar point,

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Speaker 1: but good and phrase differently. I liked that one too, Murph.

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Speaker 1: This turned into a pretty good Twitter poll people, a

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Speaker 1: couple of tweets people's and I've given it a lot

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Speaker 1: of thought. There's a lot of thoughtfullens who goes into

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Speaker 1: those respects. There's a lot in there. There's no question

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Speaker 1: about it, and it's it's uh. I love to help

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Speaker 1: the defensive lines got and it's my contention they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be better. I really think they're going to be better.

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Speaker 1: Last year they were. They remembered the slow starts of

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Speaker 1: the season because the Bills were turning it over offensively,

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Speaker 1: they put their d line in their defense in a

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Speaker 1: hole a little bit. Although they played extremely well from

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Speaker 1: start to finish, they only started to climb the ranks

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Speaker 1: of the sack numbers late in the second half of

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Speaker 1: the year, and they ended up tenth overall in sacks

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, which was more than respectable. So if

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Speaker 1: they can, if the offense can come and hold their

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Speaker 1: end up even better, they'll have more opportunities. This defense

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Speaker 1: will and if particularly if they got we'll see if

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Speaker 1: they're better or not. It'll I think they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a chance to shine a little more this year perhaps,

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Speaker 1: and they did last year. The offense was better last year,

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Speaker 1: but they just couldn't get the in zone enough. And

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Speaker 1: if they can do better in that regard, score one

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Speaker 1: more touchdown a game on average, the defense I think

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Speaker 1: will get exponential help. We'll see. That's I still think

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Speaker 1: the defense has every reason to believe it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a top five defense. And if it is, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that defensive line is gonna have to come

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Speaker 1: through for him. Yeah. Absolutely, they'll have to at least

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Speaker 1: be as good as last year's defensive line for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break here and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to our first guest today. It is Gabriel Davis,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's draft pick in the fourth round, wide receiver out

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Speaker 1: of Central Florida. Standybody to join us next, So come

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Speaker 1: on back for that one goes line presented by a

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Speaker 1: lot of health radio only. This is Buffalo Bill's radiosa

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Speaker 1: chapter on this Tuesday afternoon, cloudy and cold, Steve, it

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Speaker 1: seems like Groundhog Day a little bit here in Orchard

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Speaker 1: Park Easter round, doesn't it? Yeah that you know, that's

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Speaker 1: a great way to put it. It really does. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: was a little better than today. Sprinkling this morning? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is it? It rained like every day for a month,

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Speaker 1: feel like it? And it snowed three days last week.

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Speaker 1: Don't remind me what that little that's like. Watching the

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Speaker 1: Bills Dallas game last night. Yeah, I don't talk about

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Speaker 1: that either. From twenty eight we're done with snow, right please?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think so. I would think so too.

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Speaker 1: And no golf for you, Steve, it's too cold. Huh No, Well,

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Speaker 1: I have not left the house for quite some time because,

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Speaker 1: like I told you, we haven't seen the twin grandkids yet,

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Speaker 1: so we're we're like Thursday night would be the fourteenth

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Speaker 1: day of our quarantine, so that we will be able

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Speaker 1: to see in person the grand the grandkids that the

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Speaker 1: new grandkids, and if if it's like if that happens,

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Speaker 1: then uh well then we'll be able to then. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then maybe after that, but not for a while. We're

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Speaker 1: all we're all kind of sequestering ourselves away from the

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Speaker 1: total population so that I can hold the two new

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Speaker 1: grand the three new grandsons I haven't to do. So

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Speaker 1: it's great. Yeah, it's great. That's worth waiting for it,

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Speaker 1: can you you know you got a lot to look

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Speaker 1: forward to when this is over, right? Well yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I get it's funny because they the one with

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Speaker 1: the twins, they're they're waiting till Friday and I'll get

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Speaker 1: a chance to hold them. But the one who's with

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Speaker 1: the older kids, they're still going out and doing stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know, whatever they can. They're not they're not like

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Speaker 1: having every single thing delivered to their house, so we

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Speaker 1: still can't see them yet. Oh yeah, hey, you know

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Speaker 1: the newborns are vulnerable. Yeah, I got it. Our Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll today, we're gonna get with Gabriel Davis, the Bill's

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Speaker 1: uh fourths round draft pick in a moment. So we're

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Speaker 1: doing the Twitter poll here after Cree agency trades and

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Speaker 1: the draft this past weekend, which builds position group got

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Speaker 1: the most help? Give us a call eight oh three

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you on Twitter too, Steve,

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Speaker 1: you want to go back to the tweet sheet once

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Speaker 1: you read some of the tweet sheet. It's brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Cargan Moving Systems, the exclusive movers of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. All right, from Scotty. From Scottie, he says,

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Speaker 1: I'm staying wide receiver with receivers and Diggs, Davis and Hodges.

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Speaker 1: I'm going with the current guys making the offense so

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Speaker 1: much better to a group that was good last year

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Speaker 1: but now it's great. Well, he's already inserting the Hodgens.

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Speaker 1: He's talking about two draft picks onto the active roster

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Speaker 1: with Diggs, Cole Beasley and John Brown. That is five

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Speaker 1: pretty good guys. But not all five of those guys

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Speaker 1: are gonna be on the field at the same time.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, there's gonna be great competition in training camp,

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Speaker 1: if you know, if if they get through that. But

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Speaker 1: Scotti's saying, the wide receiver crew, we'll see it'll be

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Speaker 1: fun to see. Yeah, the drafting of those two receivers,

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Speaker 1: Gabriel and Davison Hodgens, that's a message right to Robert

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Speaker 1: Foster in particular, and to Duke Williams right, similar size, right,

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Speaker 1: and they would have to get the message right. I

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Speaker 1: would think, Hey, they went out and got big wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do about it? Right, everybody knew that,

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Speaker 1: I think going in. I mean it's not You're not

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Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, it's not a shot across

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Speaker 1: there about. They knew at the end of last year

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Speaker 1: and even during the season that they needed more production.

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Speaker 1: They needed to get on the field to do some things,

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Speaker 1: and they that's the way of the world. If you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be an NFL player, you're gonna have to compete

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Speaker 1: for your job every year and every week. So I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that I think it's more of a statement that

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Speaker 1: we all saw coming. The offense needs to get better,

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Speaker 1: and the first way to get better is to get

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Speaker 1: better players. Competition. Well, the fourth round draft pick is

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Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis and he is live on the line with

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Speaker 1: us right now. John Murphy Steve Task saying the loaded

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Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis muffle those fourth round pick from Central Florida

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Speaker 1: last weekend. Hello Gabriel, thanks coming on with us. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's the way I'm doing? You're doing great? Thank you? Um.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on being drafted by the Buffalo Bills. Did

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Speaker 1: you go fourth round? About where you were expected or

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Speaker 1: where were you expecting to go? Yes? Um, you know

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Speaker 1: from a jump, you know that shows a lot of

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Speaker 1: interest in me. Um, And you know that's when I'm

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Speaker 1: most happy if I was that I got draft to

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Speaker 1: a team that you know, showed interested me from the jump, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, and just was talking to me throughout the

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Speaker 1: whole process and wanted me to be on their team.

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Speaker 1: And in fact they picked me up showed me how

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Speaker 1: much you know, they really cared and wanted me to

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Speaker 1: come and be a part of the Bills. What do

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Speaker 1: you know about upflowing the franchise with Josh Allen the

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the offense you're going to be walking into obviously,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's a great offense to out shuns,

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Speaker 1: you know, big big quarterback cannon with an arm and

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Speaker 1: you know, just you know, the biggest things I heard

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Speaker 1: about Buffalo. One of my good friends Eli Harold, and

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Speaker 1: I know Matt Mono as well, and you know, they

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Speaker 1: just talks about you know, the fans are crazy, obviously.

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Speaker 1: It's a great culture of the team. It's the family brotherhood.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can trust each other and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm part of happy to just be a part of

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Speaker 1: you know, just great, a great team. And you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody I talked about with the Bills, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: same feedback always get. Gabriel. I saw a video of

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Speaker 1: when you were actually drafted. You were watching the draft

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Speaker 1: at home Saturday, and they you know, they put the

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Speaker 1: routine thing, best players available. Your name was on the

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Speaker 1: screen when you got the call from the Bills. That

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Speaker 1: had to be kind of weird. Hunh. Think I'm one

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Speaker 1: of the best players available. Oh no, I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 1: not available anymore. Right, Hello, Yeah they're Gabriel. Yes, I'm here,

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Speaker 1: I'm here. Yeah, I was asking about the draft process Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I saw a piece of video where you were actually

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Speaker 1: watching the draft on the phone when the Bills contacted

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Speaker 1: you and your name was highlighted. Is one of the

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Speaker 1: best players available. They had to be a weird feeling. Huh, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: you know, it definitely was. And it's crazy because I

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Speaker 1: remember looking at all the numbers of teams that had

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Speaker 1: picks and I've seen them one two name in the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I wouldn't be surprised that they picked

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Speaker 1: me up. And you know, as soon as I got

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Speaker 1: that call, I just knew where I was doing. What

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Speaker 1: are your plans in the in your future year of

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Speaker 1: working out in Sanford, a little Stanford, Florida where you

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Speaker 1: grew up. Is that where you're staying right now? I've

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Speaker 1: been working out in Santifa, actually looking out. Had to

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Speaker 1: had to stop work out right now. I totally forgot

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Speaker 1: about the interview, but no, the I plan on moving

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Speaker 1: or down south with John Brown for a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting the system down, learning some things from him.

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Speaker 1: He's a great restier, It's been a part of his offense.

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Speaker 1: Knows a lot about the game, a great mentor I

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Speaker 1: know to have, and you know, just gonna be looking

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Speaker 1: him for the next couple of weeks. You're also playing

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Speaker 1: you're also playing college football with your brother, younger brother Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Is he jumping in on the workouts right now? He's

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Speaker 1: already You've got rehab one of the day, feel a

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Speaker 1: towny cl So he's rehabbing, getting that getting that leg right.

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Speaker 1: But I know if he could, he definitely got here

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Speaker 1: with me. Awesome, Gabriel, David's Bill's fourth round pick on

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Speaker 1: the line with this, Gabriel, I read about your training regiment.

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Speaker 1: Did you spend some time in southern California working out

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Speaker 1: as well? And with Zach Moss out there? The Bill

637
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Speaker 1: is a third round pick. Yes, sir, Me and Zach Moss,

638
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: you know have been was do this whole process together

639
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Speaker 1: from the jump, and you know, I'm so happy to

640
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: be a part of the team. Was him. It's great,

641
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity. That's so great about football brings

642
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: people you know together you never thought you deal with.

643
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: And I know that means that gonna build great over

644
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: the one we already have. You know, by the whole

645
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: combined process, give us a little give us a quick

646
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: critique on your buddy Zach. What kind of player is he?

647
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: What kind of training partner was he Zack's the worker.

648
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: You know, Zack done. He doesn't say two months, but

649
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: Zack is gonna get the job done. He's gonna put

650
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: the work, he's gonna put the time in. He's dedicated, love,

651
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: he's passionate for the game. And you know he looks

652
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: good in that blue and red. So he's gonna great

653
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: for the next couple of years for sure. You your

654
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: training is pretty rigorous, uh Gabriel. In fact that you

655
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: you had a video you posted of your running routes

656
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: and catching passes. I know it impressed the Bills general

657
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: manager Brandon Bean after the draft, But you basically work

658
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: out all day every day right now. Huh yeah, sir,

659
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, this is a great opportunity. You know,

660
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: you're playing in the league with the best of the

661
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: best compete and I feel like, you know, there's a

662
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: lot of work that has to be put into be

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00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: able to compete in You know that that post wasn't

664
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: for you know, just the show for entertainment. That was

665
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: no actual thing. I just had to clear my mind,

666
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: get on the field, get some routes in, you know,

667
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: get some get some working because I'm ready to be

668
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: up there in Buffalo. What kind of instruction have you

669
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: gotten to this point from the Bills coaching staff, from

670
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: the GM what of that? What have they told you,

671
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: not just about drafting you, about what they expect in

672
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: the coming days? Um, you know, just dominated what you

673
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: can control, Um, Dominador, you control obviously where we're doing

674
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: virtual stuff. So learning the system. Learning the system is

675
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: going to be big, formation, concepts, emotions, you know, just

676
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: learning all those things. Once I get on the field,

677
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: I can just slide and play and be the player

678
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: that I know I am. Um. Obviously, me and Isaiah,

679
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, come in as bigger A sees, you know,

680
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: those bigger guys on the outside, you know, making big plays.

681
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: So but at the end of the day, I love

682
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: the build because the staff I can already tell what

683
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: kind of a you know, how how how it rules

684
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: over there and Buffalo and it's gonna be great. I'm

685
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: so heady it could be in a better spot. A

686
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: guy with your size, Gabriel, as big as you are,

687
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, the height is six two listed two hundred

688
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: and sixteen two hundred and twenty pounds. What can you

689
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: do with that size? And maybe a smaller receiver is

690
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: not capable of doing it. And what are you trying

691
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: to do to maximize that? Um? Yeah, I mean, just

692
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, using my size of advantage. Obviously, I'm not

693
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: gonna play um like those small, quick twitchy receivers. Umm.

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00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: Not saying that I ain't. I'm not quick and twitchy,

695
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: but obviously those bigger plays downfield, those deep balls, those

696
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: fifty fifty balls. I know I have to compete four

697
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: need being you know, the stature that I am. But

698
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean what I mean. You know I've been studying

699
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: Bills build a film. I mean those guys easily, you

700
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: know Brown, you know all those guys are making those plays.

701
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: They're making the same type of plays I need to

702
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: make because I just know, ide, I just need to

703
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: add to the coach to bring a little bit more

704
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: of that to the game, and I know I will.

705
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: You've also spent some time with the former UCF receiver

706
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall. Um, you broke his school receiving record last

707
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: season with twelve hundred and forty one yard Uh. Did

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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: you hear from him after you broke that record? Oh? Yeah,

709
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: of course we did a whole skit and everything we

710
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: did really well, you know, But you know he was

711
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: happy for Maranathing but love. You know, obviously he wants

712
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: people to come to that school and be great, and

713
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I accomplished that, and you

714
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: know for you to come, I want the same thing

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00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: from my school. It's a great school, great competition, and

716
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, just want to show people that we can do.

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00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: All of those other schools are doing as well. So

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00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: to see me do something like that, I know he

719
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: felt no special. We're lying on the line with Bill

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Speaker 1: sports Rot and draft pick wide receiver Gabriel Davids from

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00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: Central Florida. Do people call you Gabe or is it Gabriel?

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00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: Typically people call me Gabe, but my mom, if anything,

723
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: he's ever documentary. Everybody who says my name on online

724
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: or TV or anything, she wants to say Gabriel. We're

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00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: gonna go with Gabe. Is that okay? That's why I gotta.

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00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: You've mentioned um that you're you're planning on going down

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00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: what South Florida to work out with John Brown a

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00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: little bit later on, did you already talk to him? Yes, sir,

729
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: we talked about it. We got we're gonna do a

730
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: set out for that as well. Who set that up?

731
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: Did he reach out to you. Um, I reached out

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00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: to him, and you know he probly with member but

733
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: open arms. I mean, you know, this guy, he's been

734
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: a lot of around a lot of great receivers, and um,

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00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: you know probably feels like, you know, it's just his

736
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: turns of a turn to favor I guess and look

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00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: out for a younger guy. And I feel like he's

738
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna do just that. And you know, I already know

739
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a great relationship moving forward. Have you

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00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: reached out if you talked to any of the other

741
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: draft picks in your class of the bills got you

742
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: guys together on a zoom call or giving you any

743
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: have you had any kind of congregation online or otherwise?

744
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: Obviously not in person, but have you had a congregate

745
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: zoom call with any of these guys or has it

746
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: just been an individual basis? Oh no, we did me

747
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: as an a problem. Was actually just on the phone

748
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: last night, on the phone last think for about three minutes,

749
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: messing around, juging around, you know, talking about a schedule

750
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: to get um, you know, for all these insults. But

751
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know I got I got picked up

752
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: with a great group of guys and you know last

753
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: night's called just that one call some movies type of

754
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: guys I'm gonna be working with, and I'm excited. That's

755
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: a good group to hang with, especially if the River

756
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: is a training camp. To get the three of you

757
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: even after training camp practices, just throwing and running routes,

758
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: that would be beneficial for all three of you, I

759
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: would think, huh oh, of course, I mean that's me

760
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: and Issavia receivers. And then obviously we have from now

761
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback who has to know the whole system. Um,

762
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, ending out of it just like we do.

763
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: But obviously you know us and more complex knows they

764
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: had his point of view around. He's gonna be something,

765
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: um that will definitely help us out. Dave is great

766
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: talking to you, you were. I can't wait to getting

767
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: get to know you. I want to uh, I can't

768
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: wait to see a play. I've heard a lot about

769
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: you seeing your highlights and I want to see you

770
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: do it in the Bill's uniform exactly. You know what.

771
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: I'm decided to be part of Buffalo, the Buffalo Bills

772
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: Philae Mafia, and you know, ready just for the season start.

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00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: Are you going back on the practice field now? Gave.

774
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: You're gonna keep working out. Oh yeah, yeah, right now

775
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: and get to work. All right, Well, let you go.

776
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming out with us, all right, see you guys,

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00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: Thank you gave Davis Gabriel Davis. I think it's a

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00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: right to call him Gabe Nol Right, Steve, I've been,

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00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: I was by Gabe. But if you're getting, if you get,

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00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: if you're gonna call him on the radio on the game, dame,

781
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: or if you've got to say Gabriel, what I think,

782
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: as Mom likes it that way is from what I understand,

783
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm going with Gabe. All right, Come on, man, I'm

784
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: going with Gabe. Gave Davis Bills wide receiver, fourth round

785
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: draft pick on the line with us. We've got an

786
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: open phone line. If you'd like to give us a call.

787
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: Let us know which position we're benefited the most from

788
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: the Bills offseason so far. We'll come back and start

789
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: taking those calls. Reading more than tweets on the tweet sheet.

790
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: One does live presented by collat of Health Radio only

791
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: from our homes. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. What about

792
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: Dot Murthy seen Cansker. We talked just a moment ago

793
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: with fourth round draft pick Dave Davis and if you

794
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: want to hear that interview, if you're missing you can

795
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: always get it at our podcast on Buffalo Bills dot Com,

796
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Bills that on it, Spotify, Google Play,

797
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: It's different ways to reach out and find out all

798
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: we're doing here on the show. And Marcus was Marquise

799
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: Gabe was a good guy I like talking about. Yeah,

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00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: he seems really enthusiastic about coming to Buffalo. He acknowledges

801
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: the culture and has a couple of connections to the

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00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: team as well. He's been hanging out with Zach Moss,

803
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: which is kind of cool to hear. You know, those

804
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: two guys were working out pre draft, went through the

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00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: whole process together and Presto Chango. Now they're both playing

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00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. That's kind of cool. Yeah, Hey,

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00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: I mentioned Marquises. I was thinking about Marquis Goodwin, who

808
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: has signed on with the Philadelphia Eagles after being released

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00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: by the forty nine Ers. Former Bill's draft pick Marquis

810
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: Goodwin did not finish last year with the Niners, did

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Speaker 1: not play in the Super Bowl. He had He was

812
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: on ir at the end of the year with the

813
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: knee and foot injuries, he had drops inconsistent production. Marquis Goodman.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting and I think about him, and especially in

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00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: relation to the Bill's new wide receivers that picks Davis

816
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: and Hodgens. I'm not gonna you know, they're not running back.

817
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you that wide receivers are

818
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: a Diamer doesn't. But you know, a team kind of

819
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: stockpile a lot of wide receivers and kind of sort

820
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: through them. Goodwin is a good, fast, dynamic playmaker, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you would call him reliable somebody

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00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: who could count out Steve You know what I mean? Well, yeah, exactly.

823
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Speaker 1: And I think there's a couple of things about the NFL,

824
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: murph and it's almost universal. Has been that this way

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00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: as long as I can remember, and it probably be

826
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: this way as long in the future. If you have

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Speaker 1: one of two things, you will get many, many chances

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Somebody will always bring you into try

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Speaker 1: and gain your potential. First, if you have great size,

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Speaker 1: you will always get a chance to make the most

831
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Speaker 1: of it and give it a roster spot in the NFL.

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00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: And the other one is speed. If you can run

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00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna want you on their team. And Mark he's

834
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Speaker 1: Goodwin has that speed that everybody coves so great. And

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Speaker 1: you can see why it is in them if you

836
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: just look around at the best teams. Look at the

837
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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. They field so much speed on their roster.

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00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: Think about how fast Sammy Watkins is and was when

839
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: he came out, you know, as a fourth three guy stuff.

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00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: He's fourth option on the Chiefs. He's just he's an afterthought.

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00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: That's how much speed the Chiefs have on their roster

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00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. I mean ask

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00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: you listen, as a receiver, how do you separate yourself

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Speaker 1: from the other So you're receiver with good size like

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Speaker 1: the those two draft picks, or receiver with great speed

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Speaker 1: like Markus Goodwin and dozens of others over the years.

847
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Speaker 1: What separates you as a receiver? You know what I mean? Well,

848
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: I yeah, I same thing that separates you as like

849
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: any other player at any other position. And I'll tell

850
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: you exactly what it is. And this is generally speaking,

851
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: to make it simple. All you have to do is

852
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: exceed the expectations that they have for you. Yet, if

853
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: you're a fast wide receiver. You have to run better

854
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: routes than they thought you could. You have to catch

855
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: the ball better than they thought you would. You're known

856
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: for one thing. Your job is to prove that there

857
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: are low expectations about the other expect aspects of your

858
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: game or are underrated. Yeah, you exceed those expectations. You're better.

859
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: You catch the ball better than they thought you could.

860
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: You run better routes than they thought you could, You

861
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: handle press coverage better than they thought you could. All

862
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: of those things. You have to do the things that

863
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: are not considered your strengths better than they think you can,

864
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: and they will never get rid of you. They'll never

865
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: get rid of you if you do that unless you

866
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: get up against somebody who's just a you know, a

867
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: much better player in every respect, which you know, those

868
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: guys don't just fall off trees. They're not. It's not common.

869
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: So that's that's my philosophy. What you're saying. One more

870
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: question about this, and it's more of a personal question.

871
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: And you played that position, obviously you had another role

872
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: to play on special teams, But would your approach, how

873
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: did you set out to separate yourself from you know,

874
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: the typical fourth or fifth wide receiver or the typical

875
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: gunner running down to cover a punt. What was your

876
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: approach to highlight that? For me, I didn't think about

877
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: competing with those other guys because when push comes to

878
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: shove Murphy, they were teammates, and I tried I try

879
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: to cheer for him. I wanted them to play well.

880
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to me to play. I wanted my team

881
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: to be good, and better players make you good. What

882
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: I tried to do was play every role I was

883
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: given special teams wide receiver, X, Y Z. I try

884
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: to do it as well as I could possibly do

885
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: it and be making myself valuable enough that I was

886
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: one of the top five guys that they wanted to

887
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: keep around. Meaning for me, you know, I wasn't a

888
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: guy that they were trying to plug in and make

889
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: the slot receiver. I wasn't a guy they were trying

890
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: to make the X receiver or the why guy, the

891
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you know, the outside slot guy. I was

892
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: a guy. What I did was and I got a

893
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: lot of help from my assistant coaches like Nick Nikolau

894
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: and Charlie Joyner or Ted Tolner, the guys who coached

895
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: me in my position. They made me able to play

896
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: any of those spots. I was ready to step in

897
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: at X, Y or Z all the time and could

898
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: play those spots if needed. I knew what I was doing,

899
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: I knew the techniques, I knew the adjustments for all

900
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: the spots, and that way, when in practice, which happened invariably,

901
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: happens invariably the guys who were trying to make the team,

902
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 1: they're trying to find a spot for you, You're gonna

903
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: get plugged into those spots. It wasn't like I was

904
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: Andre Reid and I only played I was only playing

905
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: the one spot they had for me on there, you

906
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I was ready to play

907
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 1: any of the spots. So I performed better than maybe

908
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: they thought I was capable of because A I knew

909
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: what was going on at that spot, and B I

910
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, I used the skills I had that helped

911
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: me get to the NFL to the maximum. So for me,

912
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: I attacked it on all fronts and did the thing

913
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: is that might make me valuable enough to keep around,

914
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: and you try to excel at those That's cool. I

915
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: just got when you mentioned Ted Tolner. I haven't thought

916
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: about him for years. What a great guy. Former USC

917
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: coach when he came here, right, yeah, coach in southern California,

918
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: came to coach the Bill's wide receivers under Ka, under

919
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: Kay Stevenson or marvlen No, Marv Levy, Okay, when I

920
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: was usual with Marv Levy. And then after he left us,

921
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: he was with the Raiders, he was with he was

922
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: with a number of teams. He went to the Rams

923
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: after he left us. He was a great guy. I

924
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: think he left it. Yeah, I mean he was great.

925
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful guy. Yeah. You know what, we used

926
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: a quick story preseason a different era, right, mid eighties,

927
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: We're going to preseason games. I'm doing the games with

928
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: Van Millard, So we'd played tennis, we'd kind of, I

929
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't dare do it now, by the way, sneak a

930
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: tennis racket under the charter, right, you just don't do

931
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: that now. But back then, we'd bring your tennis rackets

932
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: and me and Van and for a couple of summers

933
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: at least Ted Tolner and I think Bill Munson would

934
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: play doubles tennis the morning of the game. Now, preseason games,

935
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: the game not until night. You got a whole day

936
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: to Phil. It was great, beautiful day and Sea Adam.

937
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: We played monthy. I remember playing in Houston and the

938
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: blistering sun. It was always toldering me against the van

939
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: and Bill Munson, who was the front office guy for

940
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: the Bills. Tolder was a great, great guy to have

941
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: on your tennis team. So love get everything up the net.

942
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah great, Yeah he was. He was a good athlete,

943
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: but he was also he had great family, his wife

944
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: Barb and and he had a couple of boys as well,

945
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: and um, just he was really great. He was really great.

946
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: He helped me a lot, um you know, he was.

947
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: He's a really fun coach to play for. I think.

948
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you the best assistant coach I ever

949
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: really played for was was Nick Nikolau, who was a

950
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: hard nosed kid grew up in the hard neighborhoods of Philly,

951
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a street kid fighting his way through.

952
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: His mom and dad were right off off the boat

953
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: from Portugal and they didn't even speak the language. And

954
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: that's how he grew up. He was a son of

955
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 1: the first generation immigrants, and uh, he grew up kind

956
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: of in the hard scrabbled streets of Philly, and it

957
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: was great. One of the greatest, one of the best

958
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: teachers I've ever been around. Nick Nikola, we're just talking

959
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, I just looking up Ted Toler seventy

960
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: nine years old now it's still live, living in San Francisco.

961
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: Great guy. Yeah, we're gonna take a break, we'll come back.

962
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: We'll talk with Marcella Louis Jacque, another great guy. He's

963
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: the NFL Nation reporter for ESPN dot com. And that's

964
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: what we're doing next, reviewing the draft with Marcella Louis

965
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: Jacque of ESPN. It's One Bills Live, presented by Collada Health.

966
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: We're coming to you on the radio only today. This

967
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. John Murphy, Steve Tasker working from

968
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: home again today, working on the radio again today and

969
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: we are joined on the line right now by our

970
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: next guest. He is the ESPN NFL Nation reporter covering

971
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: the Bills Marcella Louis Jacque on the LAMB with us

972
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: solo Marcella, John Murphy, Steve task here. Thank you very

973
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: much coming on with us today. Yeah, John, I appreciate

974
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: you having me, uh you know, anything to keep talking

975
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: football after while we're on quarantine, while we're still into ourselves,

976
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: are working from home, you know, just helps us get

977
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: that sense of normalcy. But absolutely, Hey, you you had

978
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: a tweet the other day, might have been Sunday or

979
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: Monday that everybody's got and we're going to get in

980
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: reviewing the Bills draft, But you had a tweet that

981
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: I thought I never thought of that. You said that

982
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: the draft picks the Bills made almost rule out the

983
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: possibility of the Bills acquiring either Leonard Fournette or Janicking

984
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: got way right, And I thought, he's probably right about that.

985
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: They don't need those two anymore. Do that? No, And

986
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: I said that mostly because they had already made their

987
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: second and third round selections, and obviously they didn't have

988
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: a first rounder, and so if it was going to

989
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: be if they were going to trade for a current

990
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, part ways with the current draft pick, they're

991
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: not getting Dockway for anything less than a second or

992
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: third rounder. So I thought that itself probably ruled it out.

993
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: Not to mention, they used that second round pick on

994
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: AJD Fanessa, who you would assume is going to get

995
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: some run this year. And if you look at that

996
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: deep it's the end room, there's he's already gonna have

997
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: to be battling it out to get on the field.

998
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: If you add a guy liking Gokway in there, then

999
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, there's not a lot of opportunities for your

1000
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: first or your first pick of the draft to get

1001
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: that much needed first year experience. And then obviously with

1002
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: Zack moss Um, I think running backs during their rookie year,

1003
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: I think it's it's one of the easier not saying

1004
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: it's easy, but I think it's one of the easier

1005
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: positions to transition from from college to the NFL. Uh

1006
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: So he can presumably get a lot of actions, see

1007
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps right away in year one. You

1008
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: add a guy like Fournette, all of a sudden, Zach

1009
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: Moss is taking a back seat for an extra year,

1010
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: and Fournette is a kind of workhorse back. It's going

1011
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: to take more snaps away from Devin Singletary than Zack

1012
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: Moss would. So it's just, you know, there there are

1013
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: way too many reasons for that trade, either of those

1014
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: traits not to happen than there were for them to happen.

1015
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: And I think Bill Fan should should probably you know,

1016
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: I know and Gockway was the dream off season, but

1017
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: you know it, really it never made much sense. Just

1018
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean is pretty adamant that he doesn't like bringing

1019
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: in new players. To be the highest paid guy on

1020
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: the team, I think Mitch Morris was last year, and

1021
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: only out of necessity. They just they needed a center,

1022
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: and they did their homework on him properly to h

1023
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: to know that he's not going to create an issue

1024
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: if he made the most money. But in Gockway is

1025
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: going to command a twenty million dollars a year salary,

1026
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: and that's just not in Buffalo's m Yeah, we had

1027
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean on the show yesterday and we asked him

1028
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: and he said, that roster right now is about eighty

1029
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: five to eighty eight guys. They're they're climbing up to

1030
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: their limit of ninety plus. They get they've got the

1031
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: exemption for Christian Way to ninety one. Do you see

1032
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: any needs, gaping holes, problem positions as the way the

1033
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: roster set right now. No, that was the beautiful thing

1034
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: about about their needs going into the draft. There were

1035
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: only two positions that I said, Okay, they need to

1036
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: come out of here with at least one, and that

1037
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: was defensive end or just edg Dressler in general and

1038
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: running back, and they knocked that out right out the gate,

1039
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: right right out the gate. So after that it was like, man,

1040
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: you can really really draft the best player available at

1041
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: every selection. That's why you saw them go with a

1042
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: backup quarterback in the fifth round. You saw them draft

1043
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: a kicker, you saw them draft a pair of receivers

1044
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: as well, and they just it made sense. And even now,

1045
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: if I had to absolutely nitpick that, linebacker depth is

1046
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: something that's still just a question mark to me. I'm

1047
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: not going to say it's a concern quite yet, but

1048
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: it's a question mark. Because there's new names coming in. A. J.

1049
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: Klein is new Tyler Matakevich is a new name. We

1050
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: don't quite know how they're going to jail, how they're

1051
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: going to fit into the overall scheme. We don't know

1052
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: how they're going to acclimate, if it's going to be quick,

1053
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: if they're going to struggle, So presumably climb, you know,

1054
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: with its familiarity with being in McDermott, it should be

1055
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: a pretty seamless transition. But it's still on paper right now.

1056
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: So that's the only question mark I've really got on

1057
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: this roster, and then just how how will Josh Allen

1058
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: and Stefan Diggs metch Is that chemistry going to build

1059
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: as quickly as Buffalo needs to to with this kind

1060
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 1: of schedule, you really can't afford the team really can't

1061
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: afford to start the season, you know, two and four, one,

1062
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: one and three, one and four. You need to start strong.

1063
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: And part of that strong start is going to hinge

1064
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: on whether or not Allen and Diggs form a tight connection.

1065
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: So there's question marks, but I still don't think there's

1066
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: concerns or gaping holes and needs on this roster. Marcel

1067
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: Louis Shockey asked me an NFL Nation reporter covering the

1068
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: Bills on the line with us. Before you came here,

1069
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: you covered the Carolina Panthers for a while, Marcellan, tell

1070
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: me about the Carolina group that the Bills have added

1071
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: to the roster by a free agency. What do you

1072
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: know about, say, Darryl Williams and Vernon Butler and Mario

1073
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: Addison A J. Klein even, what do you know about

1074
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: these guys and who do you think might have the

1075
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: biggest impact form? Yeah, A J. Kleiner was a little

1076
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: before a little before my time, but I was there.

1077
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: I did cover Mario Addison and Vernon Butler for a season.

1078
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: When I covered him, Vernon Butler was more or less

1079
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: a non factor on the team. I think he really

1080
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: turned it on in this contract year after that fifth

1081
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: round or fifth year option was declined and kind of

1082
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: you know, he ticked the extra gear. You see it

1083
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,479
Speaker 1: all the time. But he does have that, like really,

1084
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: he is an excellent three tech. Can probably even bounce outside.

1085
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: He's quick enough, he's good enough pass rusher. But the

1086
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: motivation is just a concern there because, like I said,

1087
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: when you see that kind of production in a contract year,

1088
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: it makes you wonder, okay, like can this guy perform

1089
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: without a fire under his butt? And that's what we're

1090
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: going to see this year. Mario Addison, though, that is

1091
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: a consistent production across the board, at least nine and

1092
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: a half sacks or nine sacks in each of the

1093
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: last four seasons. I mean, he's one of the quietly

1094
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: more productive edge rushers in the NFL. And unheralded too,

1095
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: because he's not a big name. He's not somebody that

1096
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, inner circles of each fan group, each team's

1097
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: fan groups talk about. But He's a guy who was

1098
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: going to provide a lot of a lot of pressure

1099
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: on the edge. He's a guy who can bounce up

1100
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: the outside linebacker as well. He's very versatile. He's going

1101
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: to allow the Bills to also use aj Evanessa inside.

1102
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: He's and that's what Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison and Oliver

1103
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: and Evanessa on the line. That's that's a hell of

1104
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: a of a front four when you're talking about attacking

1105
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback and then But I think he is going

1106
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: to be especially with such a young guy coming in

1107
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: in Aj, I think he's going to be invaluable. And

1108
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: for three years. I'm not sure if we get if

1109
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: you get nine sacks each of those three years that

1110
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: he's signed for, but I think he can provide you

1111
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: at least one or two more of those type seasons.

1112
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: He's just that kind of player. Well, before we circle

1113
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: back and ask you a little bit more about the

1114
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: Bills and what they're doing this offseason, I gotta ask

1115
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: about one more Carolina guy, Cam Newton, still out on

1116
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: the street. What do you think is going to happen

1117
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 1: to him now that the draft is over and maybe

1118
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: the dust is starting to settle. Even even Jamis Winston

1119
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: seems to like he's going to land in New Orleans.

1120
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: What about Cam? What's gonna happen? Look, I've said, I've

1121
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: said Cam to New England this entire time. It just

1122
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: it makes too much, It makes too much sense. And

1123
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, his personality or the media

1124
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: attention he's going to bring is so abnormal for them

1125
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: to add. I mean, they added a guy like, they

1126
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: added a shoutout Rosinko, They've added Randy Muss, They've added Tintivo.

1127
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: All of these guys create their own media circus. All

1128
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: of them can have their own beat. They're so you know,

1129
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: personable and so attention the kind of drawing. So I

1130
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: think it makes the most sense, especially since they get

1131
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: can draft the quarterback this year. You know Jared's Didham.

1132
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: They might believe in Jared's Didham, sure, but the fact

1133
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: that they brought in Brian Hoyer and told him you've

1134
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: got a shot at being the starter, I just don't

1135
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: see it. I don't see them satisfied with their current

1136
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: situation at quarterback. But if not, then he's just kind

1137
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: of then he's going to be playing that that waiting game.

1138
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: Where you're just you're waiting for a starter to get hurt,

1139
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: which you know, unfortunately will probably happen somewhere, and hopefully

1140
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: he's hoping to slide in right there. I thought the

1141
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: Chargers would have been the only other situation that made

1142
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: sense for him, But obviously they committed to the Tyrod

1143
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: Taylor and Justin Herbert, so I don't think that's going

1144
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: to happen. I know, you know, Bills fans might not

1145
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: love to hear it, but I still think that New

1146
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: England is the most realistic possibility on the line. With

1147
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 1: Marcella Luis Jacques, ESPN, NFL Nation reporter covering the Buffalo Bills,

1148
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: Marcel the Bills drafted two wide receivers, they edit, they

1149
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: traded for Stefan Giggs, they resigned z A. McKenzie. Competition,

1150
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: especially after the top three competition should be pretty vigorous.

1151
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: I think for receiving spots on the roster, huh oh absolutely.

1152
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 1: I mean when you look at so the top three,

1153
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: there they're locks, right, you know, Diggs, Brown Bees with

1154
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: ooser locks. Gabriel Davis fourth round pick, that's the lock.

1155
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: You have to do something inexplicable off the field, or

1156
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: maybe just drop every single pass to be released. It's

1157
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, so you would think he's a lock.

1158
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: To Andre Roberts, he's the kick returner, he's a lock.

1159
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: So I mean, there's only realistically one or two more

1160
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: spots available, and you've got you've got Hodgings, You've got McKenzie,

1161
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: You've got Foster, you've got Duke Williams all buying for

1162
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: a spot, plus whatever, you know, whatever camp bodies they

1163
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: bring in. You know, you never know what if there's

1164
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: a UDFA or just a free agent in general who

1165
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: can make a big impact of training camp. So it's

1166
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: going to be tight. And I think I think Buffalo,

1167
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: I think they're going to see some familiar names no

1168
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: longer with the team when that final roster comes out.

1169
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: And I think just because Isaiah McKenzie signed that tender

1170
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: or signed that that one year deal, that doesn't necessarily

1171
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: make him a roster lock. I think he does add

1172
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: a lot of versatility here, but especially with Stefon Dig's

1173
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: ability to move into the slot, I'm just not sure

1174
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: if that versatility is powerful enough to keep him on

1175
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: the roster. But he did. He did give me one

1176
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: of my favorite quotes of the last season where he

1177
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: compared himself to a nat. He said, the gnat is

1178
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: always around and you can't get rid of it. So

1179
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think he might show us

1180
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: something coming from I gotta ask you this about the

1181
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: Bill's draft class. You have a favorite of this draft,

1182
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: and if you do have a favorite pick, what might

1183
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: be your most underrated guy that the Bills picked. I

1184
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: think the most underrated might be Isaiah Hodgins. Just to

1185
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: be able to get him so late. I think it's

1186
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: a it's a scenario where where the class, the receiver

1187
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: class was so deep that there were a handful of

1188
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: guys that fell way lower than they would have in

1189
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: an average year. This was I mean thirteen touchdowns last

1190
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: season that those are that's an elite number. He's an

1191
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: elite red zone threat. He runs smooth routes, especially for

1192
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: a guy his size. I think he immediately comes in

1193
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: and he's the biggest receiver that Buffalo has. I think

1194
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: Duke Williams right now is six foot two. Hodgins is

1195
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: six four. That's a guy. This is the guy who

1196
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: further who gives the gives Josh Shallon gives Brian Dable

1197
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: so many more options when it comes to that red

1198
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: zone goal line offense, it's already stretching defensive thing because

1199
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: of Alan's ability to run, which we mean you give

1200
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: him a reader as well, but you really never know

1201
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: what he's about to do. And then my favorite pick,

1202
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, I want to say, I want to say Eponessa,

1203
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: just because it's still kind of mind boggling that he

1204
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: made it all the way to fifty four. This was

1205
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: this a guy was almost a consensus top ten pick

1206
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: before the season. I mean, we're talking about Epinessa and

1207
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: Chase Young, which edge rusher is going to go first

1208
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: before the season started. But I love the Zack Moss pick.

1209
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: The more I watched, the more I learned about him,

1210
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: the more I love it. You know, I was a

1211
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: big aj dealon Advocate. I'm not gonna lie here. I

1212
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: like the idea of having that just rock to pound

1213
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: a defense into submission at the end of the game,

1214
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: especially this cold weather late in the season in Buffalo,

1215
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: even chasing around Devin Singletary all game and then you

1216
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: just got to deal with the two hundred and forty

1217
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: pound monster. But Jack Boss offers a similarly violent running

1218
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: style that I think I think we're gon we're gonna

1219
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: see a lot more explosive plays from either of them,

1220
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: from both moss and Singletary in the ground game, just

1221
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: because defensives are gonna be worn out, and it just

1222
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: adds to that, you know, lunch pale, blue collar appeal

1223
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: of the Bills and their offensive scheme. So I love

1224
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: the Zack moss pick, I like the aj f ands

1225
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: a pick, and Isaiah Hodges is probably the best value

1226
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: there in the seventh round or so. How do you

1227
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: think they'll they'll split up the carries between Zack Mosson

1228
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: and Devin Singletary. Singletary still the number one guy? No,

1229
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: what do you think? Oh? Yeah, I think Singletary is

1230
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: the number one guy. You're seeing a lot of people.

1231
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: They're seeing a lot of people nasking me saying, uh,

1232
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: you know, Zack moss is going to be the new

1233
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: might be the new number one, or he'll he'll overtake Singletary.

1234
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't really see that happening. I think I think

1235
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary is he's a legitimate starter in the NFL

1236
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: right now, seven hundred yards after missing two or three games.

1237
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: I think if he's the workhorse for an entire season,

1238
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: then he cracks the one km mark, you no doubt,

1239
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: but I think it can be a true it could

1240
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: be a true hot hand approach. They both offer some

1241
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: some or some value in the passing game. So it's

1242
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: not like, you know, when Jack Monts comes in, you

1243
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: know for a fact that he's not getting he's not

1244
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: getting a swing pass. I think, uh, you know, if

1245
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: it's not if it's not right down the middle, maybe

1246
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: uh sixty five thirty five, seventy thirty in Singletary's favor.

1247
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: I know that. You know, he and Gore I think

1248
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: ended with the same amount of carriers last season. But

1249
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be splitting it right

1250
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: down the middle, especially just with this little truncated offseason.

1251
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna give most in time to get

1252
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: his feed under him and kind of learn the league.

1253
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: So we might see a heavy dose of Singletary to

1254
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: start the year, which I don't think is a bad thing.

1255
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: But you know, whoever's just whoever's finding their gaps, whoever

1256
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: defense is having more trouble tackling, I think is going

1257
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: to end up with more carries in a given week.

1258
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be kind of hard to predict. Yeah,

1259
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: I mean I say it all the time on this show,

1260
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: Marcel Nobody, nobody listens to me. I think Singletary was

1261
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: under used last year. You know, twelve games, one hundred

1262
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: and fifty carries. There's a lot more to come from

1263
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, I think, don't you. Oh? Absolutely, And this

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Speaker 1: is a guy you this is a guy who you

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Speaker 1: genuinely enjoy watch watching run them all. Whenever he gets

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Speaker 1: a carry, he's guaranteed to make at least one person missed.

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Speaker 1: The first person to put hands on him or size

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Speaker 1: him up is not going to bring him down. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's the exciting thing about watching him. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't quite have that breakaway home run speed, and that

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Speaker 1: might be the only thing that keeps him from being,

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Speaker 1: you know, an elite, elite back, you know, out there

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Speaker 1: with the Sequon Barclays of the world, just because you know,

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Speaker 1: you saw him get tracked down from behind a couple

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Speaker 1: of times, but you also saw him make one person

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Speaker 1: miss and take off tw five thirty yards down the field.

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Speaker 1: And that's the that's the excitement of Devin Singletary. And

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Speaker 1: he just keeps getting better and better. Good or good,

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Speaker 1: you know, good ballance, low center of gravity at I

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Speaker 1: believe he's five to seven, about two hundred. Uh so

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Speaker 1: he you know, he's not so small. He's not small,

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Speaker 1: he's short, but he just like I said, it's fun

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Speaker 1: watching him the ball, watching him run the ball. And

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Speaker 1: there's certain guys in the league who have been like that.

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Speaker 1: Lay Beyond Bell is another one who you just whenever

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Speaker 1: he gets the ball, you want to start stopping watch

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Speaker 1: because it's like it's like art, you know, it's like

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Speaker 1: flowing water. He just makes somebody miss and finds the

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Speaker 1: hole and falls forward. It's uh, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: with more people were to watch Devin Singletary, if he

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Speaker 1: got more opportunities, then uh maybe people wouldn't be as

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Speaker 1: high on the possibility of Moss taken over for him.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's that kind of situation. I

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Speaker 1: think they're they're truly meant to compliment each other, not

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Speaker 1: you know, battle it out and have one rule the backfield,

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Speaker 1: he alluded to earlier. The Bills are in a little

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Speaker 1: different spot with their roster because they had I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you call the luxury or yeah, the luxury.

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Speaker 1: I guess of drafting a quarterback and a kicker as

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Speaker 1: far as a quarterback. Jake From at a, Georgia, do

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Speaker 1: you think the Bills keep three quarterbacks on the roster

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Speaker 1: or how do you think that plays out? Yeah, being

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Speaker 1: did say, you know, maybe we keep two, maybe we

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Speaker 1: keep three. You just have to remember, I think that

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Speaker 1: that fifty three is going up to at fifty four

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Speaker 1: or fifty five. But presumably you keep an extra quarterback,

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Speaker 1: that's one less position you can keep elsewhere. So that's

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Speaker 1: one fewer receiver one fore, your offensive lineman if you're

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Speaker 1: a linebacker or a defensive end, and so on, so forth.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of hard. It's kind of hard

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Speaker 1: to predict. But without seeing him throw the ball, and

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Speaker 1: that's where you know, rookie camp would have made this

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Speaker 1: a lot easier to tell if he was. You know,

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Speaker 1: a problem is just so far behind them. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe they only keep two this year. But

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Speaker 1: I do seriously doubt that if they do keep two,

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Speaker 1: it would only be you know, Josh Allen and Jake

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Speaker 1: From I think it's kind of asking a lot for

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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback to keep a rookie as your backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So if from is making the roster, it's it's because

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Speaker 1: they're keeping three quarterbacks. I don't think you know he's

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Speaker 1: making it if they're only doing two. Mar said Luis

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Speaker 1: Jockeys and the NFL Nature reported. Last thing I have

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Speaker 1: for you, Marcel, and it's an unfair question, but how

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Speaker 1: do you think the NFL season will look this year?

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Speaker 1: We're said to be a week or two away from

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Speaker 1: the release of some kind of a schedule. We don't

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Speaker 1: know about training camp, we don't know if they'll be

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Speaker 1: fans allowed in stadium Jemeny, you care to venture any

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Speaker 1: guesses on what the season might look look like this

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Speaker 1: this fall? You know, I really I don't like to

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Speaker 1: speculate with this just because it's uh. I don't want

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Speaker 1: people taking my word as bond or yeah, you're putting

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Speaker 1: too much, too too much stock. I'm truly uninformed. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not the source when it comes to that, but

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Speaker 1: I do. I am personally wary of feeling NFL stadiums

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Speaker 1: because by by all accounts, they're supposed to be another

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Speaker 1: wave of this virus coming up, and I'm a little

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01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: nervous of having seventy thousand people in a football stadium,

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Speaker 1: just you know, months after we were confined to our

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Speaker 1: homes for weeks and weeks and weeks on end. So

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Speaker 1: I'm really I'm really not sure. I don't think players

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Speaker 1: are gonna mind. I think we saw Kirk Cousins come

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Speaker 1: out and say, you know, it would be just like practice,

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01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: or it might be a little bit of a release

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01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: if they play without fans in the stands. But it's

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01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: not like, you know, if you can't go to the game,

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Speaker 1: it's not like nobody's gonna watch. In fact that it

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Speaker 1: would mean, you know, historic television numbers. I think if

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Speaker 1: you know, fans weren't allowed in the stands and had

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Speaker 1: to watch the games from home. So I'm curious what

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Speaker 1: it does to the overall fan experience. But I'm just

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01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it's so fluid, man, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: there's a life changing, life altering decision made, you know,

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Speaker 1: every day, if not every other day. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: really hard to predict. But we'll get through it whatever

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Speaker 1: it is. Marcel, We've got a Twitter poll we're gonna watch.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you about following the free agency and

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Speaker 1: the trades, the draft, which position group on the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills got the most Hell was it the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers, the running backs or something else. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's a good question, um top heavy. I' go on

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Speaker 1: wide receiver obviously. I think they got the best overall

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Speaker 1: player when you add Sefon Diggs. Plus when you was

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Speaker 1: looking at the draft with Dave Davidson and Isaiah Hodgins,

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Speaker 1: that that receiver room is it's salty right now. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I'll go with defensive line overall, just because

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Speaker 1: of what they lost and what they brought in. I

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Speaker 1: think getting Mario Addison over Shack Lawson, I think that's

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Speaker 1: an improvement. And then I think the combination of Quentin

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Speaker 1: Jefferson and Vernon Butler is an improvement over Jordan Phillips.

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Speaker 1: And that's without considering a j Fanessa, who I really

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01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: think can be a star, especially especially here when when

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Speaker 1: when hearing about the culture he came from in Iowa

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Speaker 1: and what he's about to walk into, it's assuming I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming it's going to be pretty seamless for him. I

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: think the transition doing the NFL is going to be

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Speaker 1: kind of seamless for him from a comfort standpoint. We'll

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Speaker 1: see what he can do on the field, but mentally

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Speaker 1: and culturally, I think it's gonna be pretty familiar for him.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we're going to be tensive line here all right, marself.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for this, Stay healthy and keep plugging away. We'll

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01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,879
Speaker 1: get back to normal Sunday. Thanks very much. I appreciate

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01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: it y'all having me man, you stay well, stay healthy

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: as well. Hope you and yours are doing all right.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Marcella. Lois Jacqui has being an NFL Nation

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01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,919
Speaker 1: reporter covers the Buffalo Bills good to get his perspective

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Speaker 1: on the draft. Steven, I do think you made a

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01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: good point any elaborated right off the top about in

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Speaker 1: Goquini and and Fournette. They are not in the picture anymore,

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Speaker 1: if they were at all for the Buffalo Bills. I

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01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: think the dress set in the draft right, Yeah, they've

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01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: been rendered, uh, irrelevant, I think to what the Bills

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01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: need going forward by the draft and by free agency

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01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: and all the other stuff. I yeah, I agree with

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Speaker 1: him totally, and I like what he said at the

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Speaker 1: very end. They're about the guys that you know, Mario

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 1: Addison is he got as many as sacks again in

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Speaker 1: this last year as Jordan Phillips did in his career year.

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Speaker 1: And he had that with Quentin Jefferson and Vernon Butler

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01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: and man O man they look good. And then throw

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Speaker 1: in on top of it a second round draft pick

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: a j Epenezza who probably was a first round draft pick.

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01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: That defensive line did get better, and that's gonna be

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01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: fun to watch and fun to watch those guys take

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Speaker 1: the field. We'll see how good this defense can be. Becazake.

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Speaker 1: I think deep down there even better than they were

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Speaker 1: a year ago when they were the number one, number

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Speaker 1: two defense in the NFL. All right, hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break. Here, it's time, it's halfway through the show.

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Speaker 1: Time for lunch. What's for lunch? You're ready to play?

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Speaker 1: What's for lunch? Tea? We're gonna all right? Sure look

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Speaker 1: over the you don't sound convinced, Yeah, okay, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: look over the questions. What for lunch? When we return,

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Speaker 1: come on back and give us a call to eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty outside Buffalo toll three one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty one Bills

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalidah Health Radio, only today on Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. He's halftime of the show. Anyway. It is

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. Here until three

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Speaker 1: o'clock today, two o'clock. Pretty good guests. Bruce Feldman, he

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: wrote the great book It's got to be seven or

1423
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: eight years old now The Quarterback, How to Develop Quarterbacks

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01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: in the Modern Era. But he is also an analyst

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01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: for Fox Sports College football broadcast. I want to ask

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01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman about Jake from and what he might mean

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01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. So I look forward to that seat. Yeah,

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01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: it's uh, it does add an extra dynamic to the

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: quarterback room. Um, and it's funny too because there's some

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Speaker 1: other as we get to what's for lunch in a minute,

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01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: some other quarterbacks that were drafted that we're a little

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01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: bit as surprising as well. Um, it's the draft is

1433
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: always a hoot, and it's fun too. And I know

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: it's it's petty and we probably shouldn't take this tack, Murphy.

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01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: I just gotta. I'll just confess my sins to you.

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01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: I take a little bit of relish in other people's

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Speaker 1: drafts that don't go so well or that you know,

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01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: or question marks, and I just it's like, who if

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01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: anybody in mind this year like green like Georgian Love

1440
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: going to Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers sitting there as

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01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,759
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. Last year, it was the same story

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01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: with when the Pittsburgh Steelers drafted I can't even remember

1443
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: the guy's name. Uh, sat on the bench behind Ben

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01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: Rodldsburg and Rossberg said, listen, I'm he's not They're not

1445
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: making us better by drafting this guy. Ain't beating me out.

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01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: And Jordan rod I mean Aaron Rodgers couldn't make the

1447
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: exact same argument about Jordan Love. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's the right logic. Well, we're gonna get to

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01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: this and what's for lunch because the general manager job

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Speaker 1: is to and we talked about this before the Bills draft. Yeah,

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01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: you want to add players that have help this year,

1452
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: but you can't ignore that there's a future coming after

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01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: this year. You know, you can't ignore. You know, in

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01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 1: the Bills case, like, um, you got thirty year old receivers,

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01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: you might have to add some youth there. And you

1456
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: know you got some pass rushers who are getting up

1457
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: in age. You muse youth there if they can help

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01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: this year. That's great, but everybody can't help right away.

1459
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: Everybody's not ready to go right out of the box.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind when teams draft for the future a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I think that's smart a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that I think there's some more obvious places

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01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: to do it, though, And I think one of the

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01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: reasons you draft, one of the places you draft for

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Speaker 1: the future is is maybe a little bit exactly like

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Speaker 1: green Bay did it. Although here's the thing about green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Aaron Rodgers is going to be where

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Speaker 1: for you know, two years, two and a half year,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe his contracts up. Maybe they don't

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna resign him, maybe they turn him into

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01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 1: a free agent. But maybe that's the reason they drafted,

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01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: because they see his contracts running out and they don't

1473
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: want to They don't think he's gonna be good enough

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01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: in a year or two years to warn another big contract,

1475
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: so they gotta be ready for that. Maybe that's the reason. Yeah,

1476
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. Let's do what's for lunch.

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01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: When we take a couple of propositions and Steve and

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01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: I decide which one we choose, do we agree with

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01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: yes or no? What's for lunch? Here we go Number one.

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01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers will or will not be a good mentor

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01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,600
Speaker 1: what Jordan loves. I'll let you go first, Steve. I

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01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: have a definitely depending on this, but I'll let you

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01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 1: go first. I was saying, new, Yeah, I don't think

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01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: and now he and he does have the benefit of

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01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 1: knowing it. He went through the exact same thing Jordan

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: Love did. Although Aaron Rodgers was a higher draft pick

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01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: than Jordan Love. He came in and Brett Farve, and

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01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: it's well documented Brett Farvan and Aaron Rodgers, you know,

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01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: weren't boosom buddies. They may be friendly now. I don't

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01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: have any idea what their relationship is now, but it's

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01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: been well documented that Bret Farv wasn't taken, you know,

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01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: wasn't given Aaron Rodgers a big hug when he came

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01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: in through the door. And I don't know that Aaron

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01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: Rodgers will learn from that or try and make it

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01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: different for Jordan Love or whether he thinks he's in

1496
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: the same position that that Bret farb was when Aaron

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01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: Rodgers was when he himself was drafted. But I just

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01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: don't get the feeling if that's in his nature to

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01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: be that kind of guy. Plus, given the circumstances of

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01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: his career as it is right now, all right, I

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01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: hear you. I'm going to disagree though, because I think

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01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers gets a bad rap. He look, I agree,

1503
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: I'd see it. And he's not warm and fuzzy. Um.

1504
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: He is very prideful. I think he u He's very good,

1505
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: and he takes great pride in his work. But I

1506
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: think he's at the stage of his career where he

1507
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: can afford to cut some slack to Jordan Love. He look,

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: if the Packers want to go with Jordan Love next year,

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01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: they be cutting their own throat. And I think Aaron

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01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: Rodgers knows that. He knows that he's secure there and

1511
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: his legacy is secured there in Green Bay. He's got

1512
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: more things. Yeah, they could have drafted better to help

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01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,560
Speaker 1: him this year, but they chose to draft for the

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01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: future draft quarterback. I think Rogers will be an okay mentor.

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01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be damaging to Jordan Love. I

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01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: think he might not be the perfect mentor, but I

1517
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: think he'll be a pretty good mentor. I read where

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01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: are They've already spoken, right, Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers

1519
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 1: and already spoken. I think I read that somewhere since

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01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: he was drafted last Thursday. Okay, it'd be fun to

1521
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: see how it plays out, but I've said it a

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01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 1: million times, Murph, and it's been illustrated a couple of

1523
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: times as well. It rarely ends well for the great ones.

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01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,879
Speaker 1: I hear you. Part two, what's for lunch? Watching college

1525
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: game take at home? Is to game tape at home

1526
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: is more insightful than to fly off and go to

1527
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: off campuses to witness the script program. Yes or no,

1528
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: I'll say yes. I think it always has been. I

1529
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: think that concept has been reinforced and made even stronger

1530
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: this year with the circumstances around the fact that there

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01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: weren't a whole lot of Pro Days and that teams

1532
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 1: didn't have their thirty visits. But yeah, I think the

1533
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 1: best way to predict how a guy's going to play

1534
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL is to watch his college tape. How

1535
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: did he play in this game? How did he play

1536
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: in this situation? Much more so than watch him in

1537
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: a scripted pro day. What do you think, Steve, I'll

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01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: say yes to that. But I also will acknowledge that

1539
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 1: they go to those far off campse far off campuses

1540
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: for much more than just to see the kid play.

1541
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: They sit down and look at kid in the eye,

1542
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: and they talk with him. They have a conversation with

1543
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: him about football, about stuff that's not football related, about

1544
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: his family. They talk to his coaches, his positioning coaches,

1545
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: They talk to people on campus who know the guy.

1546
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: There's far more reason to go to those campuses than

1547
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: just watching the kid up closing personal to play football.

1548
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: They want to get to know him. They want to

1549
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: see what kind of type the kiddie, and they see

1550
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: the type of kiddie is, and also talk to people

1551
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: who know him who maybe don't have any skin in

1552
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: the game as to how that kid does as a pro,

1553
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: and get a real, non unbiased opinion about what the

1554
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: kids like away from football. So yeah, going watching the tape, yeah,

1555
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: I think you find as much out about how the

1556
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: kid or whether the kid can play football as you

1557
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: need to know. But I think going to where the

1558
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: kid has lived for four years or three years and

1559
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: talking to people who see him every day and have

1560
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 1: to interact with him and see him when he's not

1561
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: on his best behavior, getting an idea of what kind

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01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: of person he is, then that still makes a trip

1563
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: to the far off campus work with I get it.

1564
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: I will say this though, and I question this, Why

1565
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: then does so many teams fail in their draft picks

1566
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: when they do all this homework, when they talk to

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01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: people around the player, when they try to get a

1568
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: sense of the type of character at the beginning they're

1569
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: going to draft. I mean, why does the Buffalo Bill's

1570
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: draft Mike Williams Aaron May But didn't their visits to

1571
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 1: those campuses show them that there's something not quite right here?

1572
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: And it's not just the Bills. Everybody has big draft

1573
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: follow ups like that. Why didn't that hand kid? The kid?

1574
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: Aces the interviews other factors. Sometimes you get you get

1575
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 1: owners chiming in from the rafters saying, hey, you know,

1576
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: you need the edge guy rather than the inside guy.

1577
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: Or you could get scouts who were willing to jump

1578
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 1: up on the table for a guy and they turn

1579
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: out to be wrong. Or a scout doesn't jump up

1580
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: on the table for a guy and could have been

1581
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: the guy to made a difference. And a lot of it,

1582
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: and some of it, once in a while, comes down

1583
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: to what happens in the room right on draft day.

1584
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: That causes just somebody to change their mind. And you know,

1585
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: but mostly I think it's just a guy, a young

1586
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 1: kid who probably, like I'll give you the Mike Williams example,

1587
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: the big offensive linement the Bills took under Greg Williams.

1588
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: There's a kid, he was at Camp miss Abilities, who

1589
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 1: because he was can't had can't missabilities. He had top

1590
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: notch representation who prepared him to ace interviews, who that

1591
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: gave the teams that were looking at him the wrong

1592
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: impression about what it motivated him they got and it

1593
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: turns out he wasn't exactly what he you know, what

1594
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: he said he was. Yeah, I can see that. I

1595
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: wonder if guys, if teams sometimes want so much for

1596
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 1: this guy to be the guy that they overlooked what

1597
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: may come up in those interviews. You know what I mean.

1598
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: If they think, oh, man, this guy is the right size,

1599
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: he's the perfect size. It looks like he'll fit in

1600
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: exactly what we're doing. And then you're doing an interview

1601
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: about the kid or with the kid, and you hear

1602
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: something and you just disregard it because you like the

1603
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: kids so much. I think there's other things too. It

1604
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 1: could you know, you get at this level, Murph, the

1605
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: coaches or the guys that sit in the room and say,

1606
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: I can get that kid to play and I'll fix him.

1607
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 1: You know, it's like that. It's like you're you see kids,

1608
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, kids getting mary saying I can fix that

1609
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 1: girl or she's gonna you know, I'm gonna make an

1610
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 1: honest man out of that guy. I'm gonna change him

1611
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 1: when we get married. I'm gonna make him the kind

1612
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 1: of guy who needs you know what I mean. And

1613
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: coaches sit back there going, man, I can bring out

1614
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: the best in that kid. He's had problems. I can

1615
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: fix him, or he or my culture will fix that kid.

1616
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 1: You know, there's some of that going on as well,

1617
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 1: and it's it could be a combination of all the

1618
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: things we've discussed, or it could be just one of them.

1619
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: But for that and a bunch of reasons we didn't

1620
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 1: even mention, guys just don't live up to it. Yeah, crazy,

1621
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: all right. Last one for what's for lunch? What if

1622
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: I told you that the Bills would draft a quarterback

1623
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 1: and the Patriots would not. The Patriots did not draft

1624
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback. This past weekend. Steve So are they going

1625
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: with Jared Stidham or do they bring in another quarterback?

1626
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: What do you think? Man? Give me a minute, all right,

1627
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: I'll go first. I think they I think they're gonna

1628
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: bring somebody in, and I think the Stidham could wind

1629
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 1: up as their starter. You very well could. But I

1630
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: do think they're compelled almost to bring somebody in. I

1631
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: don't know if it'll be Cam Newton, as Marcel Louis

1632
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: Jacque hinded a couple of minutes ago, but I do

1633
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: think they need another quarterback to compete, if not to

1634
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: actually get ready to start. I don't know how many

1635
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have been on the roster. I know Horrior's there,

1636
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 1: Brian Horrior's there, I those Stidham's there. I think they've

1637
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: got another guy as well, and theyn't go into training

1638
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 1: camp with four quarterbacks. I don't know if Marcella Louis Jacque,

1639
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: our last guest is right in that it makes so

1640
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: much sense for Cam Newton to land in New England.

1641
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick may want to prove he can win that

1642
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: he's just gonna go with Jared Stidham, and I think

1643
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: if he does, Stidham will struggle early. But he'll get

1644
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: better and they'll be winning games with him. I'm I'm

1645
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: telling you, I'm still thinking they're gonna win ten games

1646
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: this year no matter who is there quarterback, well, whoever

1647
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: they line up with is going to be good enough

1648
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: to do that for him and the rest of their team.

1649
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: We'll see. I could be totally wrong, but I still

1650
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham, and I think the problem there. I don't

1651
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 1: think they have any fear of going with Jared Stidham,

1652
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know, but I would think that they're

1653
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: foolish not to bring somebody in to compete. I think

1654
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: they got to bring somebody in. And the last I

1655
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: looked at their roster, and this is just for the draft,

1656
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: it was only Stidham and Hoyer on the roster. They

1657
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: have to bring in a third quarterback who knows, who

1658
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 1: knows who it will be, but they have to bring

1659
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: in somebody else. Right, There you go, what's for lunch?

1660
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: There you go, and we'll take a break, care we'll play.

1661
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: We'll take some phone calls and get to some responses

1662
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: to our Twitter poll today, which deals with the draft.

1663
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: Which position group do you think was most helped by

1664
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: the Bill's offseason free agency trades in the NFL Draft,

1665
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: is a defensive line, wide receiver, running back, something else.

1666
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: Let's hear from you. Eight oh three five fifty fal

1667
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

1668
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 1: pole lines are open when we return one Bill's line.

1669
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: Presented by Collatta Health. This is Buffalo Bills radio tesker.

1670
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. Matter you can't hear me?

1671
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: What do you got going on? You have a litter voice.

1672
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: You sounded like you were Yeah, it's different for a

1673
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: minute there. I think it might have might have been me,

1674
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:31,520
Speaker 1: might have been you, But we seem okay now, okay, okay,

1675
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: um our twitter pulled to me after free agency and

1676
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: trades in the NFL Draft. By the way, is off

1677
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 1: season over? Now? See? Why would you think the Bills

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01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: are finished with making significant additions to their roster by

1679
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: now right? I'm wondering it's a good question, thank you.

1680
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm wondering where we go? How where do we transition

1681
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: from off season to preseason? That's that's a subtle and

1682
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: very gray line right there. What do you think? And

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01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: I guess the OTAs and the rookie mini camps would

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01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: be preseason, right, Yeah? I think they're kind of their

1685
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: own things, you know, spring camp. I don't know, We're

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01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 1: not gonna happen, right, I mean, I don't think they're

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01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 1: gonna get any OTAs or or any kind of spring

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01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: workouts in here. That's where that's where I would draw

1689
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: the behind though, because that's new guys on the team.

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01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in camp this year in the preseason,

1691
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: so I think that's where the preseason begins, and it

1692
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: has not obviously begun yet and isn't going to for

1693
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: them for you know, for a while. Here. Normally there's

1694
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: three days stretch and the second week of June where

1695
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: they have a mini camp and they end the spring

1696
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: workouts right after that and get ready to go to

1697
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 1: training camp. I don't even know if that's safe. I

1698
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: don't know if that's gonna happen. Right June mini camp. Yeah,

1699
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: they got all those OTAs. They got a couple of

1700
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: weeks of OTAs. Remember, they go in and play dodgeball

1701
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: and Tub of War and all the team building stuff

1702
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: and they get to know each other before they actually

1703
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: start playing football. UM's, yeah, that's not gonna happen. That's interesting.

1704
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I guess, so I

1705
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, this is no. I would say the

1706
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: off season is still in full swing. Bill got a

1707
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: few more guys to sign, really, anybody's significant? No, no, no,

1708
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I mean they signed the linebacker yesterday.

1709
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: He has never played it down in the NFL, if anything.

1710
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 1: That's the kind of guy I think they'll sign here.

1711
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if they signed anymore. They might not

1712
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: sign anymore. Yeah, they might not, but they've only got

1713
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,919
Speaker 1: less than a handful of spots to do it anyway.

1714
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's it. So which position we've got

1715
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: the most helpless offseason? Defensive line? On our Twitter poll

1716
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: five hundred votes in, fifty five percent said wide receiver

1717
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 1: got the most help, twenty six percent said defensive line,

1718
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: thirteen percent say the running back group got the most

1719
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: help this year, and six percent of something else in

1720
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: mind got full lines open eight three five fifty and

1721
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1722
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: If you care to win on that topic, or any

1723
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: topic regarding the belt Little Bills, let's go to the

1724
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: tweet sheet brought you about Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

1725
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: movers of the Buffalo bills from Michael. He says they're

1726
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: going with defensive line. Also, let's not forget we get

1727
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips back. He calls him Harry Phillips. Love his

1728
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: motor and attics, who's learned from the great Kyle Williams.

1729
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: But I do think folks tend to forget a little

1730
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: bit about Harrison Phillips. He's around a lot. I think

1731
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: he's still in Buffalo and these parts this part of

1732
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: the offseason recovering from his serious knee injury. But he's

1733
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,839
Speaker 1: around a lot. And he was a guy who surprised

1734
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: me and I think a lot of people were the

1735
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,719
Speaker 1: way he started out here the second season in the NFL.

1736
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 1: Steve he was ready to play. Last year, he took

1737
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 1: a big step forward, particularly in training camp. It wasn't

1738
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 1: evident to most people watching, you know, just on the field,

1739
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: because you know, he was one of those guys didn't

1740
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: play too much in the preseason, you know, and most

1741
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: people don't get a chance to watch practice, even a

1742
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: training camp, and understand what's going on on what they're

1743
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: practicing on any given day. I think in the total picture,

1744
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: there's no doubt Harrison Phillips. They were counting on him

1745
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: to be an enormous part of what they were going

1746
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: to do upfront on passing downs, and he's going to

1747
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: be a regular rotation in on the D line. I think, Um,

1748
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: he was on the cusp of having a breakout year

1749
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: as a second year. They loved they loved his intelligence,

1750
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: his football savvy and his communication skills on the field

1751
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 1: of getting guys dood. He was called on the pass

1752
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 1: rush games in third downs and um, you know, he

1753
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: went down with the knee injury. Um, and it was

1754
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: I think that. I think, um, that was the one injury.

1755
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 1: They didn't have very many last year, but that was

1756
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: the one injury that really caught him, caught him off

1757
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: guardy in the season. You know what, Um, People, because

1758
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: he's similar to body type of is Kyle Williams and

1759
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: came in when Kyle Williams was going out, people want

1760
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: to compare him. People want to say, always the next

1761
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams, learned from Kyle Williams. I kind of reject

1762
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 1: that he's totally different than Kyle Williams, you know what

1763
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean. I think he plays like a different position

1764
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: almost than Kyle Williams. Person more of a one technique

1765
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 1: than the free technique for starters, and I think he's

1766
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: a different player. I don't. I don't think those Kyle

1767
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: waias in comparison to do him any good. I will

1768
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: say that, Um, I think it's wishful thinking for most fans.

1769
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 1: Um they're both really One reason you can make it

1770
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: is because they're both really likable guys. Uh, there is that,

1771
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 1: and they are a lot alike in that. I think

1772
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 1: they're well well received by their teammates. But Kyle Williams,

1773
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, we're still thinking about Kyle Williams in the

1774
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,520
Speaker 1: last two or three years of his career, where particularly

1775
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:28,520
Speaker 1: under Sean McDermott, where McDermott leaned on him and elevated

1776
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: him in the in the conversation about the leadership and

1777
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, veteran wisdom and mentorship. And I think that's

1778
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 1: where Kyle Williams really his legacy mushroomed in the eyes

1779
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: of Bills fans and Harrison Phillips is a long way

1780
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: from from that. Even though he's a really good player,

1781
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: really smart player, and a well liked player by fans

1782
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: and his teammates, I think he's got a ways to

1783
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 1: go to tend to get to Kyle Williams level. I agree,

1784
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 1: and we return. We'll talk with Bruce Feldman, college football

1785
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: reporter for the Athletic dot Com side and reporter on

1786
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 1: the Box SPORTSFS one, Bruce Felban. We'll talk about the

1787
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 1: prom We'll talk about some of the other quarterbacks in

1788
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 1: this past weekend draft. When we come back, One Bill's

1789
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: Live presented by Collat of Health, coming to you from

1790
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: Radio only. This is Buffalo Bills Radio from One Bills Live.

1791
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: The Bills announced the edition of linebacker Mike Valder their

1792
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: roster yesterday. Bell went to a camp or was in

1793
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: was a free agent tryout with the Bills last year

1794
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: when he went undrafted right after the draft. He did

1795
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: not make the Buffalo roster. But now Mike Bell is

1796
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: back for another crack at it. He is six foot

1797
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 1: three inches tall. He is two hundred and twenty pounds.

1798
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: He played safety for the most part in his collegiate

1799
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: career at Fresno State, biom a trim at linebacker. Mike

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01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: Bell signed to a contract yesterday. NFL draft age for

1801
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 1: next year officially set. Drafts will take place in Cleveland

1802
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 1: April twenty nine through May first. It goes to Cleveland

1803
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 1: next year, it goes to Las Vegas the following year

1804
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 1: in the Kansas City the year after that. Shaun Watson

1805
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 1: is talking to the Houston Textans, who may exercise their

1806
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: fifth year option on the quarterback. Last week, the Tectans

1807
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: began to engage in very preliminary discussion with Watson and

1808
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,799
Speaker 1: as representatives, and they expect more talks to come. Jameis

1809
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 1: Winston and the Saints have not yet finalized their pending deal,

1810
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: but Saints assistant GM Jeff Ireland says it would be

1811
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 1: a good fit for both sides. Winston twenty six years old.

1812
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 1: If he is signed by the Saints, he could get

1813
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: evaluated as a possible successor that Drew Brees. The Breeze

1814
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 1: only has one year left. Unard Dustin Culquitt has been

1815
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 1: released by the Kansas City Chiefs. He was the longest

1816
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: member tenure of the defending Super Bowl champion co quit

1817
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 1: Age thirty seven. The Baltimore Raven Church significant free agent

1818
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 1: signing on offense, d J. Fluker signed to a contract.

1819
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: He was released by the Seattle Seahawks a couple of

1820
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,560
Speaker 1: days ago, and he signed by Baltimore is contingent on

1821
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: him passing to physical and the NBA's wants to enter.

1822
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: The Lakers have been in contact with the LA Mayor's

1823
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 1: office to discuss the possibility of opening their practice facility

1824
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 1: for players before the current shelter at Home order for

1825
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: LA residents expires in the middle of May. And there

1826
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 1: you go. That is the update from One Bill's Life,

1827
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker. It is our number three

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01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: and one Bills Life. I can have you with us

1829
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 1: here today. We are joined here to start the hour

1830
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: by the national College Football writer for the Athletic College

1831
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Football Insider Sideline Reporter. You can see him on Fox

1832
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 1: Sports and FS one author of the book for Me,

1833
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: The Making of the Modern Quarterback. Happy to have Bruce

1834
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: Felban on the air with us. Hello, Bruce, Good to

1835
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 1: have you with us here today. Guys, Thanks for having me. Yeah,

1836
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you. Hey, I really like

1837
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 1: your analysis of the draft. And let's start with the

1838
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: Bill draft. First. You said it feels like a steal

1839
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 1: that the Bills got aj Epanessa at fifty four. You

1840
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: said at twenty four it would have been a good pick.

1841
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: At fifty four you called it silly. Tell me why

1842
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 1: you like j Epina so much. Oh, I mean he

1843
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 1: is that guy. Like we did a couple of his

1844
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,959
Speaker 1: games over the year, especially the one against Minnesota. Minnesota

1845
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 1: was undefeated and he just dominated the game. I think

1846
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 1: anybody who watched, if you watched their bowl game against USC,

1847
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean, USC is a top twenty five pick, and

1848
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: aj at offensive tap a JP and has it dominated

1849
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: him too. I mean the way I would describe him

1850
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: is he just has like that grown man's strength at

1851
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 1: a really young age. And he is the guy where

1852
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: he didn't run a great time at the Combine. But

1853
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: I think if you watch how he plays and talk

1854
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: to the people who have played him, he has first

1855
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 1: round talent and I just think his game will translate

1856
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: very well to the NFL, especially up there, where he

1857
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,679
Speaker 1: will be a good fit I think in that system

1858
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 1: with with with the guys around them and Bruce. You

1859
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 1: also experienced the draft by watching it with Steward Mandel

1860
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: and Andy Staples all you did they agree with your

1861
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:02,600
Speaker 1: assessment of the aj Epine pick. Yeah, Andy did. I

1862
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 1: mean I think I don't know if Stewart's seen him

1863
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: as much as as as Andy and I have, but

1864
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: just just a guy who can really be a dominant presence,

1865
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 1: and I think he can help you out, not just

1866
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: a lot of times when you would defensive end, you

1867
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 1: only hear about what they can do and he guess

1868
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: the class. And I think Evanessa has the potential to

1869
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 1: really be a guy who can be a force first down,

1870
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 1: second down, and bow down. Why do you think the

1871
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: drop in the draft is it solely because of his

1872
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 1: combined performance? I think there was. There was definitely that skepticism.

1873
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 1: I think that people are looking and you're seeing some

1874
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: of these freak numbers that guys are turning in when

1875
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: they go to India, and aj didn't didn't do that,

1876
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: So I think that was that was certainly a factor

1877
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: of it. I think they're going to see, you know, what,

1878
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 1: is this going to be a guy who bust his

1879
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: butt during the week as well? And I think those

1880
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: those things are going to say, Okay, how does this

1881
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 1: all translate to what we get on Sunday. But in

1882
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: terms of the guy I on that I was around,

1883
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 1: I was canmially so impressed. I can't believe he ended

1884
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 1: up in the second round. Why do you think it's

1885
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,879
Speaker 1: so hard particularly and give it in this given environment?

1886
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 1: Why do you think it's so hard to project which

1887
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 1: of these college athletes are going to be successful pros

1888
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 1: and which ones aren't. Clearly it has more to more

1889
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 1: than It's not just their physical abilities of their ability

1890
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: to run faster, jumpides got to be something else. Why

1891
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 1: is it so hard to quantify that quality and project

1892
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 1: it into the NFL. Well, I think it's also your

1893
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: factor and immaturity and how guys are going to fit in,

1894
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: how hard guys weren't, how they handle certain kind of adversity.

1895
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of them who physically dominate

1896
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 1: whoever they play again until now you're going up against

1897
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 1: grown men and it's like the best player you've ever faced,

1898
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 1: probably you saw once. Now you're going to see him

1899
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 1: sixteen times, and you're gonna be around it, you know,

1900
01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: in the locker room where you're not going to be

1901
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: the alpha guy standing out. So I think there's a

1902
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: big adjustment factor for a lot of these guys. How

1903
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 1: it translates for them, and so I can I can

1904
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 1: see how it's a roll of the dice, especially at

1905
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 1: certain positions. You know, And and I'm not saying this

1906
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: is the case with Finess at all, but like There

1907
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: are definitely some guys where it's like, Okay, what happens

1908
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 1: when they quote unquote feel like they've made it where

1909
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 1: they are now have a lot of money, and all

1910
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 1: these people who are around them see them more as

1911
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 1: a commodity. On top of that, I mean, how do

1912
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Speaker 1: you handle that? I mean, it's it's definitely a big

1913
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 1: adjustment probably every you know, there's an adjustment for guys

1914
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: from going to college, from high school to college, but

1915
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 1: I think there's the adjustment going from out of the

1916
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 1: structure you're in in college football to the done man

1917
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 1: world of the NFL in a different city, in a

1918
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 1: place you've never probably been before. On the line with

1919
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 1: Bruce Felman, national college football writer for the Athletic Bills,

1920
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: fans would like to know that you think very highly

1921
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: exact Moss also, Bruce, in fact, you say he is

1922
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 1: kind of the look of a was in Yard, Russia.

1923
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 1: What do you see from him and what did you

1924
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 1: see from him in his collegiate career a Utah. Yeah,

1925
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 1: really mature kid and he's a South Florida kid who

1926
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 1: who left to go to Dennis Ericson recruited him back

1927
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 1: when he was on the Utah staff. He went across

1928
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 1: the country. He graduated in three years. We did a

1929
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 1: bunch of Utah games. He's got good feet, he runs,

1930
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: He's a downhill physical guy. Remember we did one of

1931
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 1: his games where he's like, you know, playing with a

1932
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 1: shoulder injury, played through it. Just a really tough physical guy.

1933
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: I think he fits very well up in Buffalo. I

1934
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: was just really impressed all the time I was around him.

1935
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 1: Anybody talks him, we'll be like, Okay, this is this

1936
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: kid's got it together. And you know, he's a kid

1937
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 1: who had initially had committed to Miami. He decided, you

1938
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 1: know what, he wasn't looking for. He staying home. He

1939
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 1: went wanted something else, and he really blossomed in Utah.

1940
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:54,640
Speaker 1: And it was still wasn't just handy at two other

1941
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 1: buddies who had come from South Florida with him, and

1942
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 1: one was a starting quarterback and was one of their

1943
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 1: go to receivers. And it's a really cool story. And

1944
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, you know, in this day and age,

1945
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 1: in the first round, but he was super productive. I mean,

1946
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 1: he's no one, none of these backs coming into college

1947
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 1: football any more physical or any tougher than Zach Moss

1948
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:15,640
Speaker 1: and he has a really good feat and I think

1949
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 1: he can do a lot with him. Well, so the

1950
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 1: Bills take a guy like Zach Moss in the third round.

1951
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 1: What do you think about the NFL's evaluation of the

1952
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,759
Speaker 1: running back position. Where's the stand for you and where's

1953
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 1: it going? You know? I think if there's the guy

1954
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 1: who is not you know, Saquon Barkley is rare in

1955
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 1: terms of just off the charts athleticism, he has everything.

1956
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 1: He's a big back. You know, you can do a

1957
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 1: lot with him in the past game. But I think

1958
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys, they can be really productive,

1959
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: really dynamic players, and you can still see him go Okay,

1960
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: well this guy, we're not sure if he's you know,

1961
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 1: if he's going to be durable enough to be here,

1962
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, a thousand carries from now after four seasons

1963
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 1: or whatever. And I think that people look and say, okay,

1964
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 1: just the kind of investment we're gonna made. I think

1965
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 1: there's definitely some of the you know, running backs would

1966
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,640
Speaker 1: be a diaim a dozen kind of factor for it.

1967
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: So there's I don't know if i'd call it a

1968
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 1: crapshoot with these guys but I just feel like there's

1969
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 1: very few that are that much different than some of

1970
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 1: the other guys who were also really productive or ultra

1971
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: productive in college, depending on what system or kind of

1972
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 1: competition they played against. Ever, so I'm talking about Buffalo's

1973
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: fifth round choice, the quarterback Jake From You did you know?

1974
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 1: Kind of an in depth piece on how important a

1975
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,759
Speaker 1: Day three pick he was. Yesterday on our show, Brandon

1976
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,560
Speaker 1: being the Bill's GM described him as a winner. He

1977
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 1: didn't talk about arm strength, he didn't talk about some

1978
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 1: of the other things. Jake From is a guy who

1979
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: who didn't have benefit from what you call the eyeball

1980
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 1: test at the combine back in the February U No.

1981
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,679
Speaker 1: I mean, look, what's interesting to me about Jake's story

1982
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 1: is he was a very successful quarterback right from the start.

1983
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: He won a lot of big games, played in a

1984
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 1: lot of big ins for Georgia with certainly want to

1985
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: buy talent. The people I trust around that program, it said,

1986
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: you know what, he pumped the brakes on anybody last

1987
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: year who were trying to make him out to be

1988
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 1: a top ten pick or a top twenty pick, and

1989
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 1: those two many months drafts that that was not his

1990
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:15,719
Speaker 1: skill set, and he reminded me a lot of another

1991
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: guy that you guys know well there in Buffalo, and

1992
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 1: that's Matt Barkley. Matt Barkley was played at a high level.

1993
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 1: Great dude, I mean, one of the nicest people you

1994
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 1: can meet, really smart. You know, Matt's got got a

1995
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 1: little more sized than Jake. But neither guy is going

1996
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 1: to run four six. Neither guy has anything close to

1997
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's arm or you know, or even Davis Webb's arm.

1998
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 1: I would say, but you know, solid and stable and

1999
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: can be a guy who will I think be in

2000
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: the NFL for half a dozen years as a backup,

2001
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: as a guy if you have to turn to. You know,

2002
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 1: he can get you out of a game, and he

2003
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 1: can you know, he can make some throws, and I

2004
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 1: think he'll be good in the quarterback room. And I

2005
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: think that's where where Jake fits in. It was ironic

2006
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:00,600
Speaker 1: to me that the guy had been compare him to

2007
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: for a while was the guy was the guy you

2008
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 1: know goes to the same team where Matt Barklay has

2009
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 1: been for a while now. So I'm interested to see

2010
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 1: how we'll do. I knew the Saints liked him but

2011
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 1: obviously the Saints at one point of the draft weren't

2012
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 1: an option from him, so we'll see. I mean, everybody

2013
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:20,600
Speaker 1: who's around Jake From comes away liking him, so I

2014
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 1: think that bodes well. I expect him to be on

2015
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 1: an NFL team for a while. I'll be to us

2016
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: if he can be a starting quarterback, if he's got

2017
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 1: enough juice in his arm to make the kind of

2018
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 1: throws consistently that you need in the NFL. I mean

2019
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 1: there's plenty of guys though, whose arms get a lot

2020
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,719
Speaker 1: stronger if they get in the NFL. So maybe maybe

2021
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 1: that will benefit Jake and he can, you know, take

2022
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 1: it to the next step. Well, Jake From enters a

2023
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 1: quarterback room where they've got a guy in Jock Allen,

2024
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:50,560
Speaker 1: who you've written a little bit about. Where do you

2025
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen's come in the last couple of years

2026
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: and where do you think he could go from here? Yeah,

2027
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 1: I've been, you know, pleasantly surprised and how well he

2028
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: has played. And he was a guy I'll be honest,

2029
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,759
Speaker 1: I was skeptical of certainly not of his physical tools,

2030
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 1: but maybe the accuracy, and there was some of the

2031
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 1: production and consistency was a little bit questionable, especially when

2032
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:15,799
Speaker 1: he played ends upper level opponents. And my Fox Sports

2033
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 1: TV crewly did one of the last games that the

2034
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 1: Bills played, it was against the Lions late in the year,

2035
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 1: was around him a little bit and around some of

2036
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: the staff and came away even more impressed with him.

2037
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 1: And back then, obviously, as you guys know that they were,

2038
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, injuries hit them. They did not have much

2039
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: skill talent to support him at that point of the year,

2040
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 1: and he was making plays and really, you know, the

2041
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 1: willingness to run in the NFL, I think, you know,

2042
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 1: just because you run a pretty good forty time as

2043
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback doesn't mean that you're gonna, you know, be

2044
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 1: a willing runner in the league. And I think he

2045
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 1: showed that he was more than willing to you. We're

2046
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 1: losing here, Are you still there, brust? Can we lose

2047
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 1: the signal? He's still there, Bruce, I'm still there, guys,

2048
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 1: He's still here. Ahead. I'm sorry, we just lost the

2049
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 1: last ten seconds or some of that. Yeah. No, what

2050
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 1: I was saying is, I think for a lot of

2051
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 1: guys who may run up pretty good forty time as quarterbacks,

2052
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 1: it's one thing to have pretty good speed. It's another

2053
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: thing to be a willing runner in the NFL as

2054
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and he showed that if that's going to

2055
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 1: win games, I can do it. I think day Ball

2056
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 1: did a really good job helping develop him in the

2057
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 1: past year, and obviously they had a lot of success.

2058
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 1: I think they were fun to watch. I'm excited to

2059
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 1: see what he's going to do in year three because

2060
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 1: I think they're going to continue to surround him with

2061
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 1: better players around him, and I think that that's something

2062
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,640
Speaker 1: they can grow with because just just being around him

2063
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, you get the feeling that this is

2064
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 1: a guy who people will rally around. And I think,

2065
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think they have a chance. And again,

2066
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 1: I think he's turned out a lot better so far

2067
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 1: than most of us thought he might become. Yeah, he

2068
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: said that the Bills needed to surround him with weapons,

2069
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 1: no question about it. It seems like they've upgraded in

2070
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 1: this draft. But this was a draft that was loaded

2071
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 1: with wide receivers. And it seems as though, you know,

2072
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: you talk about other positions, particularly the quarterback position, why

2073
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 1: is it not so difficult or at least apparently not

2074
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 1: so difficult for college wide receivers to come right into

2075
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 1: the pro game and hit the ground running. Why is

2076
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 1: that a position as important as it is offenses these days?

2077
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 1: Why is that a position that seems like these guys are, hey,

2078
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 1: they're good enough as sears in college to play in

2079
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, I think you speak to the proliferation

2080
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 1: of all the seven on seven leagues and everything that

2081
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 1: those guys are playing, the involuntary, voluntary stuff that goes

2082
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 1: on in college campuses, so they're getting so many more reps.

2083
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 1: I also think when you consider that, you know, whether

2084
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 1: it's like some version of the air raid offense or

2085
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 1: some of these other you know, more spread systems that

2086
01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 1: are now proliferated. I guess that's the right look for

2087
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: that hit around college football. I think that has given

2088
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 1: them more more just live reps to get ready and

2089
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 1: to do it on a big stage. You know, necessarily

2090
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:14,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna face way tougher defensive backs. But I think

2091
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: that has given them a chance to kind of hit

2092
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 1: the ground running, whereas before I think quite honestly, they

2093
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: weren't getting that, and you just now you're seeing a lot.

2094
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll watched a lot of LSU football, well,

2095
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily five wide because you'd have a running

2096
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 1: back out there at a tight end. But you had

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Speaker 1: a lot of three receiver sets and you do see

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of times where it's not

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Speaker 1: just two receivers out there, and I think that all

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Speaker 1: that stuff is benefiting the position. Live with Bruce Feldman,

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Speaker 1: National college football Insider for The Athletic. I have one

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Speaker 1: more NFL draft question for your Bruce about your post

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Speaker 1: draft analysis, you wrote, eighth pick over all the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: went to Isaiah Simmons from Clemson. You're right, do you

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01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 1: see a lot? You're right, he's a lot to be

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Speaker 1: a pro bowler. You didn't say a lot to be

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Speaker 1: a starter, a lot to be a good performer. You

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Speaker 1: said he's a lot to be a pro bowler. You

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Speaker 1: think very highly of him, right I do. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he is so athletic at that size and when you

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Speaker 1: saw what Clemson put on him, And I trust the

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Speaker 1: guys who coached at Clemson, and they've obviously had a

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Speaker 1: lot of talent comes through there in the last few years,

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Speaker 1: and they gush about Isaiah simmons potential, and I just

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01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,759
Speaker 1: think with the game the way the NFL has played.

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Speaker 1: When we're seeing what happened with the Chiefs and we're

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Speaker 1: seeing how the Rams playing some of the other team

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01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 1: where I think that's spreading in space. It's even more

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Speaker 1: a thing when you have a guy who can do

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Speaker 1: all the stuff that Isaiah Simmons can do and at

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01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 1: the level he can do it, you know, unless he

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Speaker 1: gets injured, I think he is going to have a

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Speaker 1: tremendous career for the Cardinals as a guy who just

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Speaker 1: flies around the field and does so much. Because he

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Speaker 1: has done so much for Clemson, I just think that

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Speaker 1: that shows you a little bit of a tease of

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Speaker 1: what he's capable of. From what position does he fly

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Speaker 1: around the field? I mean they if you want to

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Speaker 1: say he was a safety of six four plus two forty,

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01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: then that's rare. And he's sam as a As a

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01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 1: will linebacker, I think they can do almost anything. I mean, look,

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01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 1: you guys have a freaky middle linebacker who can do

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Speaker 1: a ton of stuff. You know, he's definitely not as

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Speaker 1: big Simmons isn't, but Simmons is a legit four or

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Speaker 1: four guy. He's super explosive, he's really small. I think

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Speaker 1: it just depends on however the defensive cooridator thinks he's

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Speaker 1: gonna fit best. I mean, I think to also challenge

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Speaker 1: for him because of that versatility that he showed at Clemson,

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Speaker 1: where it was an ultra aggressive scheme with grunt aventables

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01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 1: of all what they would do a lot of times,

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01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 1: you have a guy who's really only going forward, and

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Speaker 1: this is a guy who was in coverage a ton

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Speaker 1: and really handled it well. I think that's the part

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Speaker 1: that is going to make him really unique pieces as

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01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: all this stuff is kind of moving around so fast

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01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Bruce, one of the things that jumped

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Speaker 1: out about this draft this last weekend was the fact

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Speaker 1: that there were thirteen players taken in the first round

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Speaker 1: from the SEC conference, and that was in the first

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Speaker 1: twenty nine picks. The old record was only twelve first

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01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 1: rounders from the conference. Do you think that's a function

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01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 1: of the way the offseason has been, in the lack

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01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:27,679
Speaker 1: of visits and they just wanted to get the guys

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01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,560
Speaker 1: from the top level of college football or was the

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01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 1: SEC really that deep? I think the SEC really was

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01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 1: that deep start. You know, you saw what LSU has

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01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 1: developed players at a level that right now is as

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Speaker 1: good as anybody in college football. I mean, there were

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Speaker 1: guys who became first round picks, a couple of them

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Speaker 1: who if you had even told the LSU coaches, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this guy was going to go as a first first

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01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 1: round of midseason Patrick Queen great example. I mean, they

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01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 1: just blossom last year, and I think that speaks to

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Speaker 1: how well they were practicing and how folk if they

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Speaker 1: were in the development side of it. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: the SEC has recruited at a different level than the

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01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 1: rest of college football, you know, at the top at

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Speaker 1: least of their food chain. And I think you see

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01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 1: it with Alabama, you see it with LSU. I think

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Speaker 1: you see it to some degree with certainly with Georgia,

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01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 1: but also with Florida and Auburn as well. And that

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01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 1: really sets the bar right there. And I just think

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Speaker 1: that that's when you have schools are producing double digits.

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Speaker 1: That's where then you know that that's going to tilt

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Speaker 1: the numbers. You don't have that in the in the

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve, you don't have that in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: You know, you haven't it with Clemson, but that's about

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Speaker 1: all you have it. It's not like the Florida schools

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Speaker 1: in Miami and Florida State are doing what they were

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Speaker 1: doing six seven, you know, a decade ago. Hey, Bruce, Bruce,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is national college football insider at the

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Speaker 1: athletic time Common Bruce, You're right and comment a lot

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Speaker 1: about college football. We ask our NFL guests all the time,

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Speaker 1: what's the season going to look like? What's going to happen?

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Speaker 1: The question is even more interesting about college, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: Because of you know, you got college campuses with all

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Speaker 1: those students. You got many college athletic departments basically depending

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01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:14,639
Speaker 1: on college football to play, to fund these other sports,

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01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 1: to keep the other sports going. You got government involvement.

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Speaker 1: I think college is even trickier than the NFL immediate future.

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Speaker 1: Now do you agree? Oh? Absolutely? And the other dance

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Speaker 1: different is you have no real centralized leadership in college football.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like the NCAA runs the college basketball

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01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:33,759
Speaker 1: term has nothing to do with the college football playoff.

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Speaker 1: So you have the conference commissioners. I think as you

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Speaker 1: mentioned college campuses things. You know, how how the COVID

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Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic is viewed in Georgia in Tennessee is much

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Speaker 1: different than how it's viewed in Washington State in California

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Speaker 1: and or certainly in New York where you have a

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Speaker 1: staggering number of cases in the northeast. And so it's

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Speaker 1: a really complicated situation. And honestly, you know, at this point,

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Speaker 1: you know, at the end of April, who knows what

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01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 1: it's going to look like where we're going to be

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01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 1: with this two months from now, right so, I think

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01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 1: it's just a I hate to say it, but like this,

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01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 1: but you know, it's a wait and see right now.

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01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to speak in absolutes at this

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01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 1: point because I think you're just kind of waiting on

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Speaker 1: seeing you know, where the numbers are going to be,

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Speaker 1: where the death toll is gonna what's gonna look like,

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Speaker 1: what the number of cases and everything, and so you know,

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Speaker 1: I understand some states, especially in the kind of the

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01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 1: SEC footprint, are going to be probably sooner to open up,

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Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully we won't have a huge spreads

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01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 1: down there after that happens. Well, we'll see how it

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01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: plays out. Do you think it will be a conference

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Speaker 1: by conference decision. I think it's gonna be a you know,

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Speaker 1: a cost of sport because it's you know, they're not

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Speaker 1: going to have a playoff. They can't have a playoff

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01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 1: unless everybody is consistent on that. But you know, will

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01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: the SEC want to have it's conference schedule where you're

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01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, one hundreds of millions of dollars

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01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 1: in TV revenue if they could, I think they would

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01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 1: love to do it. But the question is going to be,

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01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, can they do it from a safety standpoint?

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01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you're going to get if

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01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 1: college football will be split along conference lines at that point.

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01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 1: I mean, we're in such unchartered waters here. It's hard

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01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 1: to say how how they're going to react when the

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01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 1: reality starts to sink in and what that reality really is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be crazy. Bruce, thanks for this, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: spending time of this today. We really appreciate it. My pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Thanks. Bris Felman is the national

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Speaker 1: college football insider for the Athletic dot Com. He's a

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Speaker 1: sideline reporter for Fox Sports and FS one. His book

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Speaker 1: QB The Making of the Modern Quarterback. It's you ever

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Speaker 1: read that book? Steam? It's really good and it's it's

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Speaker 1: I think the books might be eight to ten years

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01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 1: old now, but it's really a good book. I read

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Speaker 1: a couple of years. I've heard you mentioned a number

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01:53:58,080 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 1: of times. I have not got a chance to read it.

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Speaker 1: I will. It's good. I haven't time these days. You

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Speaker 1: go back and good point. Hey, we got phone lines

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Speaker 1: open when we come back eight three five fifty outside

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Speaker 1: Buffalo toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. Which position group has benefited the most from

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's off season? You can tackle that question or handle

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Speaker 1: something else. And everything is on the table today and

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Speaker 1: the phone lines are wide open. One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back. One goes five. John Murphy and skin Cancer.

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Speaker 1: I've tried to dressed up my uh my home, little

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01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 1: hoole studio here, Steve, I'm tired of looking at yours.

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Speaker 1: Ten Times Society Sports Illustrated cover picture from what nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety one, ninety two? How'd you get that blown up

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Speaker 1: so good? I didn't that When they remodeled the stadium,

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Speaker 1: they had some of the stuff that was hanging in

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Speaker 1: the clubs. This was hanging in the club suite over

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01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 1: the stadium, the Van Miller club Suite. Okay, And when

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Speaker 1: they when they remodeled it and did all that, they

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01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 1: gave some of the stuff to the guys who were

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01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: actually in the pictures and stuff. So I and I

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01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:16,520
Speaker 1: had a wall to hanging on. So there it is.

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Speaker 1: How do you like how I've pressed up my home

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Speaker 1: studio Best of Western New York. Yeah, this is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: three Best Reporter Broadcast twenty seventeen. It's on the wall

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Speaker 1: here somewhere, and this is the Buffalo Broadcast Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame for much of all. Yeah, there he goes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was at that. That was nice. I got stuff

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Speaker 1: all over the house. I'll bring new things every day

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01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 1: just to show I've got stuff. Most of it's not

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Speaker 1: all over the house. Mine's all in a little box

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01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 1: on the attic. Yeah, I got some of that too.

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01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 1: I think I have a box of stuff. I gotta

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01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 1: get rid of this, so it's getting in my way.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, John Murphy Seed task of

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Speaker 1: trying to outdo each other with our with our various accolades. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got like nine jerseys hanging on the wall outside

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Speaker 1: my office too. I'll shady those someday, just yours or

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01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 1: somebody else's. They're all mine. Jim Kelly's got famous people

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01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 1: with jerseys, and I just got my my own. Well,

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01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 1: you're kind of famous. High school. I got a junior

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Speaker 1: college jersey. I got my Northwestern jersey. I got all

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Speaker 1: my Way jersey. I can get some family pictures on

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Speaker 1: it from that wall back there. I got an Oilers jersey,

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Speaker 1: the Oilers jersey I wore when I retired. When I retired,

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Speaker 1: the Savers gave me a Savers jersey with aiming them.

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01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that's pretty, you know. And then of course I

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Speaker 1: got my Northwestern University rugby sweater that got under glass too. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll bring them out. Man. They're all kind of saff

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01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 1: for a while. It's been there for when they're all

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01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 1: sagging and kind of need to be and they need

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01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 1: some love and attention. But they're still there. On our

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01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 1: show today, we're talking about this offseason. The draft is complete, now,

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01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 1: free agency mostly complete, trades and after all that, which

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01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 1: builds position? Group got the most help five votes? Fifty

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Speaker 1: five percent of you say wide receiver, twenty six percent,

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Speaker 1: a defensive mind, thirteenth percent, a running back, six percent

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Speaker 1: say something else. Give us a call to discuss, you know.

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Speaker 1: Three fifty twenty three one eight eight eight, five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty, talk about whatever you have in mind

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Speaker 1: about the bills. Let's go to Dave and Rushford, New York. Hello, Dave,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. How you doing, John? Okay? Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about a j F Finanza

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Speaker 1: for a minute. Sure, you know he dropped down because

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01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 1: of his his forty time is the general consensus. But

2307
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 1: in high school he threw the disc is two hundred

2308
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 1: and five feet and you can't do that unless you're

2309
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:35,400
Speaker 1: extremely explosive, and so I think he's going to be

2310
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 1: really good. I do too. Look, I wish he would

2311
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure he wishes he would have performed better at

2312
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 1: the combine, Steve, But I'd rather have a guy who's

2313
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 1: had a good college career playing football than a guy

2314
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 1: who had a good weekend in Indianapolis. Yeah, guy's peak

2315
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 1: at Indianapolis, right, Yeah. I mean guys trained to be

2316
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 1: ready on that weekend for that day for those workouts,

2317
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 1: and they and they show up and some guys treat

2318
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:05,120
Speaker 1: it like that, and other guys just trained normally and

2319
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 1: then just go in and practice it. And a Japenesza

2320
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: not gonna win a forty yard dash time. But he

2321
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 1: may win a defensive line contest. So we'll wait and see.

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01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean we are right now. I think the Bills

2323
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 1: are very happy they got him. I think they feel

2324
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:21,920
Speaker 1: like at the place they got him in the draft,

2325
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 1: they didn't think he had any business falling that far.

2326
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 1: And I think it has to do with some really

2327
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 1: good players ahead of him and some teams with some

2328
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: specific needs that got filled ahead of him and caused

2329
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 1: him to drop down maybe as many as twenty spots

2330
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: in the draft, maybe more some people. I heard one guy,

2331
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 1: Bruce Fellman was talking about it in one of the

2332
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 1: articles he wrote, and some of the guys he was

2333
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 1: speaking with said, hey, Epenhezza was a steal at twenty four,

2334
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 1: let alone fifty four of the draft, So it's good.

2335
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:55,520
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are happy with him. I think

2336
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 1: I agree with Dave from Rushford. I think a Ja

2337
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 1: Happenes is going to be a great play for the Bills,

2338
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 1: and not only that, mur I think he's going to

2339
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 1: be a really good player for a long time, and

2340
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 1: as a former player that that goes a long way

2341
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 1: towards earning a lot of respect around the league. In

2342
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 1: locker rooms absolutely, phone lines open eight three fifty to

2343
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 1: three one eight eight five fifty two five fifty After

2344
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 1: free agency and the draft and trades, which position group

2345
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 1: got the most help on the bills? So to the

2346
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 1: tweet sheet brought you by Cargan Moving Systems, the official

2347
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 1: movers of the Buffalo Bills from Pat. I think they

2348
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 1: added more help in the offense with digs in those

2349
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:35,240
Speaker 1: two wide receivers plus a running back. The defense was

2350
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 1: pretty good to begin with, and they did fill some

2351
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 1: holes with free agency and a couple of picks, and

2352
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 1: with a young kicker and another quarterback, which would they

2353
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 1: had to add I would have to add them to

2354
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 1: the offensive team. So he thinks it's offense that got

2355
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:52,000
Speaker 1: the most help, all right, I get that. What else

2356
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,400
Speaker 1: you got? You got a fresh tweets sheet there, Steve?

2357
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 1: I do, and it is from let's see, this is

2358
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 1: from Did you just read Seth or Jack? Neither one? Okay?

2359
02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 1: I got set sort of the tie between the d

2360
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 1: line and white receivers. For me, I think Eepaneza, Butler,

2361
02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:11,680
Speaker 1: Addison and Jefferson with a new defensive line coach, will

2362
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 1: prove to be an upgrade from last year. Diggs and

2363
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:16,880
Speaker 1: Davis should also be a huge boost. Plus a better

2364
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 1: run game will really open things up for seventeen and

2365
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 1: the whole offense. So he thinks it's it's a tie.

2366
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:25,600
Speaker 1: Hard to say, and he's right, and that does go.

2367
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 1: And we got Verrdon Butler, Mario Addison, Quentin Jefferson and

2368
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:33,920
Speaker 1: of course a j Epeneza all additions to the defensive line.

2369
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:40,240
Speaker 1: Don't underestimate the value of the new defensive line coach.

2370
02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 1: Getting the most out of those guys is going to

2371
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:46,320
Speaker 1: be a great, big task, and those guys go a

2372
02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 1: long way towards, you know, maximizing the position, not only

2373
02:00:50,720 --> 02:00:52,400
Speaker 1: for the guys that they're bringing in, but also for

2374
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 1: the guys that we're here before, like guys like Jerry

2375
02:00:55,280 --> 02:01:00,320
Speaker 1: Hughes and Trent Murphy and Starlot lela One are from

2376
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:03,040
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. This friend from Jack all got help.

2377
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 1: Every category you put in there, every positioning, we've got help.

2378
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:07,720
Speaker 1: He says. We know Diggs will have a big impact,

2379
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 1: but wide receiver was still solid last year. Defensive line

2380
02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:14,240
Speaker 1: lost a few guys, but I think they've been adequately replaced.

2381
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:17,720
Speaker 1: Running back as my vote, sadly, Gore was not impactful

2382
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:20,720
Speaker 1: and very slow last year. Mons shouldn't help that position greatly.

2383
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 1: He had size, speed and athleticism. But that's a really

2384
02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:27,520
Speaker 1: good point, Steve. There's no question, and it wasn't made.

2385
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:31,400
Speaker 1: You know, people didn't bitch about it much. But Frank

2386
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 1: Gore really kind of hit the wall during last season,

2387
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 1: don't you think. And I think to add fresh legs

2388
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:39,360
Speaker 1: back there in Zach Moss, a tough, powerful runner with

2389
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 1: fresh legs, which Gore did not have. I think that's

2390
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:44,800
Speaker 1: going to be an underrated addition for the Buffalo offense.

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02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:50,000
Speaker 1: It really do right. I agree with you, Frank. I

2392
02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:53,480
Speaker 1: think was an asset, and unfortunately, most of the asset

2393
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:55,720
Speaker 1: and the positives he bought to the team were not

2394
02:01:55,840 --> 02:01:58,000
Speaker 1: on the field. They were in the locker room. He

2395
02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:00,520
Speaker 1: was an example. He was a guy with instant ability,

2396
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:03,200
Speaker 1: a guy with a lot of respect around the National

2397
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 1: Football League, let alone in the Buffalo bill locker room.

2398
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:09,440
Speaker 1: He showed Devin Singletary what it took to put together

2399
02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:15,600
Speaker 1: a long, productive career, which is what Frank Gore has done. Unfortunately,

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02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:19,400
Speaker 1: he went a year right. He hit the wall during

2401
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:21,520
Speaker 1: the season last year. There were games when he at

2402
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 1: the end of it and he was getting three or

2403
02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 1: four carries a game and was not productive in those carries.

2404
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 1: So it was up to Devin Singletary to carry the load.

2405
02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:34,360
Speaker 1: And you're right, murphight I think I think one reason

2406
02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:37,080
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary was underused was the fact that he got

2407
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:38,920
Speaker 1: off to a slow start because of his injury. He

2408
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 1: was out for three and a half games, and when

2409
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 1: the team was playing as well as it was in

2410
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:48,720
Speaker 1: his absence, Hartens just say hey, all of a sudden,

2411
02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna plug him in as a rookie and say

2412
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a difference for us. I think they

2413
02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:54,280
Speaker 1: made him forced. They forced him to earn his way

2414
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:55,880
Speaker 1: onto the field, and it took a while for that

2415
02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:58,680
Speaker 1: to happen, but no question, when he finally did get on,

2416
02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:00,800
Speaker 1: he was the guy they hand in the ball too

2417
02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:04,200
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Yep, all right, let's get to this part.

2418
02:03:04,760 --> 02:03:07,560
Speaker 1: NFL Tour or False brought to you by Yant's fancy

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Speaker 1: New York Charges in Chiefs. We have just a minute

2420
02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 1: or two for this team, but it's at least one

2421
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 1: good question here. The draft. The draft is that your

2422
02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:19,680
Speaker 1: phone steam not my phone? The draft last weekend proves

2423
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:23,800
Speaker 1: it can work from home and score record ratings. Well, yeah,

2424
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:26,760
Speaker 1: all right, I would say that's true. But does that

2425
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:28,880
Speaker 1: mean it goes from home from here on out? No,

2426
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:30,560
Speaker 1: not at all. They want to get back to a

2427
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 1: little bit of the showmanship of the draft. I think

2428
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 1: even with the record ratings, Look, this was a different circumstances.

2429
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:40,080
Speaker 1: Everybody understood it. There's been no sports live on TV

2430
02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:42,560
Speaker 1: for six seven weeks. Ye had the draft work and

2431
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 1: it was a nice and many times heartwarming broadcasts. But

2432
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 1: they need a little bit of the showmanship would I

2433
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 1: would argue The interesting thing is going to be how

2434
02:03:50,240 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 1: they incorporate some of the great things about the draft

2435
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:56,080
Speaker 1: into future drafts, like the family element, like gms with

2436
02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 1: their kids, players with their parents and close friends. I

2437
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:02,440
Speaker 1: think those are the things. Those are the lasting images

2438
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:04,560
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty NFL Draft that they're gonna want

2439
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:06,880
Speaker 1: to find a way to include in future draft. Steve,

2440
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 1: what do you think, Well, I don't think it proves

2441
02:04:10,160 --> 02:04:12,560
Speaker 1: that it can work from home or the record ratings

2442
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 1: had less to do with this particular draft than it

2443
02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:24,280
Speaker 1: did with this forced imprisoned audience. I mean there was

2444
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:26,400
Speaker 1: I think it had more to do with the with

2445
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:29,160
Speaker 1: the atmosphere outside of football than it did with what

2446
02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 1: was going on with the draft. Everybody was at home. Um,

2447
02:04:32,320 --> 02:04:35,080
Speaker 1: they're sequestered in their homes. Everybody was forced to watch it.

2448
02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think it was more about

2449
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 1: the atmosphere in our country than it was about the

2450
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:44,960
Speaker 1: draft being better because it was from home. I don't

2451
02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:47,080
Speaker 1: question the fact that there are some things, and we

2452
02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 1: talked about it right after the draft last on Monday.

2453
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:52,800
Speaker 1: There's no question some of the stuff about this draft

2454
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:55,160
Speaker 1: and the way it was presented on TV was better

2455
02:04:56,000 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 1: than it used to be, than it was in the

2456
02:04:57,560 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 1: years when it was the stage show. I thin some

2457
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:05,200
Speaker 1: of that will continue. But the ratings were a direct,

2458
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:09,160
Speaker 1: in my opinion, a direct function of the social distancing

2459
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 1: we're experiencing across the country. They got to find a

2460
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:14,880
Speaker 1: way to involve kids, I think, in families. Don't you

2461
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:20,360
Speaker 1: think it was Listen? I loved seeing even did you

2462
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:25,640
Speaker 1: did you see Mike Vrabel's two teenage sons and the

2463
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 1: teenagers right? I mean, these guys are like neck deep

2464
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:30,760
Speaker 1: in football. They loved the game, they could. Their dad's

2465
02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:33,720
Speaker 1: a head coach in the NFL, and they are totally

2466
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:35,840
Speaker 1: off their Rocker behind him. One of them got a

2467
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:41,000
Speaker 1: funky hair cut. Ellen's wearing a frozone Superheroes thing from

2468
02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:44,120
Speaker 1: The Incredibles the movie. They're just totally having fun with it,

2469
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:48,000
Speaker 1: busting their dad's chops. I thought it was priceless. And

2470
02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 1: then the little kids for the younger gms and the

2471
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 1: younger head coaches that were just so excited to be

2472
02:05:53,240 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 1: with their dad when they were making these important picks.

2473
02:05:55,400 --> 02:06:00,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think it has a welcomed level of

2474
02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 1: humanity to all of it. And I was, I was

2475
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:06,680
Speaker 1: all about it. I thought it was just a huge plus.

2476
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:10,040
Speaker 1: I agree. Finally, one more from two or False, brought

2477
02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:12,280
Speaker 1: to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and Cheese.

2478
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:15,080
Speaker 1: The Packers selection of quarterback Jordan Loves should be an

2479
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 1: eye opener for Aaron Rodgers. I'm gonna go false. He

2480
02:06:18,160 --> 02:06:21,520
Speaker 1: doesn't need his eyes open. Um. I'd say false to that, Steve,

2481
02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:24,200
Speaker 1: what about you? I agree it's an eye opener for

2482
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:29,560
Speaker 1: maybe for fans. Aaron Rodgers isn't even gonna bat an eye.

2483
02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:32,000
Speaker 1: He won't. He won't. Not only an eye opener, he

2484
02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 1: won't bat an eye at that. He's gonna go out

2485
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:40,880
Speaker 1: and play quarterback. He ever, if if it hadn't dawned

2486
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 1: on him that someday he would not be the quarterback

2487
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:47,200
Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers, I would be shocked. He

2488
02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:51,880
Speaker 1: knows how that works. He's probably the least affected by

2489
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:54,800
Speaker 1: this than anybody. We're probably talking about it more than

2490
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:57,640
Speaker 1: he is. Um. He's gonna come in and play football. Certainly,

2491
02:06:58,160 --> 02:07:01,440
Speaker 1: it affects him to a degree, but I don't think

2492
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:06,040
Speaker 1: it shatters his confidence or or rocks his confidence at

2493
02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:10,160
Speaker 1: all or his aspirations about the coming season. I agree

2494
02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:12,280
Speaker 1: with him. All right, Let's take a break. One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. What have we learned? Drop to you

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2498
02:07:27,040 --> 02:07:30,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. We had Gabe Davis on the show Buffalo's

2499
02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:33,160
Speaker 1: fourth round draft pick. He says his sides will be

2500
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:35,800
Speaker 1: an advantage compared to a smaller receivers out there. Here's

2501
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, you know, using my size an advantage. Obviously,

2502
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play um like those small, quick twitchy receivers.

2503
02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:45,000
Speaker 1: M not saying that I ain't. I'm not quicking, twitchy,

2504
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:47,960
Speaker 1: but obviously those bigger plays downfield, those deep balls, those

2505
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:49,920
Speaker 1: fifty fifty balls. I know I have to compete four

2506
02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:52,840
Speaker 1: need being you know the statue that I am. But

2507
02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean what I mean. You know, I've been studying Bills,

2508
02:07:56,160 --> 02:07:59,720
Speaker 1: Bills a film. I mean those guys easily, you know Brown,

2509
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:02,280
Speaker 1: you know all those guys are making those plays. They're

2510
02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 1: making the same type of plays I need to make.

2511
02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:05,240
Speaker 1: So I don't know, ide I just need to, after

2512
02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:07,000
Speaker 1: the coaching bring a little bit more of that to

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Speaker 1: the game, and I know I will pretty good. Guy

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Speaker 1: n Gabriel Davis. We had Marcel Luis Jacque on at

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Speaker 1: one o'clock, who was the ESPN NFL Nation reporter covering

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and we asked him if the Bills

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Speaker 1: have any more needs after the draft last weekend. Here's

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Speaker 1: what he said. That was the beautiful thing about about

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Speaker 1: their needs going into the draft. There were only two

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Speaker 1: positions that I said, Okay, they need to come out

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Speaker 1: of here with at least one, and that was defensive

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Speaker 1: end or just edge wrestler in general and running back.

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Speaker 1: And they knocked that out right out the gate, right

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Speaker 1: right out the gate. So after that, it was like, man,

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Speaker 1: you can really really draft the best player available at

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Speaker 1: every selection. That's why you saw them go with a

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback in the fifth round. You saw them draft

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Speaker 1: a kicker. You saw them draft a pair of receivers

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Speaker 1: as well, and they just, uh, it made sense, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's Marcella, Louis, Jock Steve. I get that, and I

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Speaker 1: acknowledge what Marcella said, and you've said it all the time.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have any big needs. I am a little

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Speaker 1: bit guarded about being too complacent about the state of

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Speaker 1: the Bill's roster. They're not a perfect roster. You know.

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Speaker 1: They haven't won anything yet with this group. Tell me,

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Speaker 1: I don't worry about it. But they don't even worry

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Speaker 1: about it. They don't think this is the same group.

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Speaker 1: It's not. They got a ton of new players they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have. They got a bunch of new guys. They

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Speaker 1: lost a bunch of guys on one year contracts last year.

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Speaker 1: Along with the two guys Shack Lawson and Jordan Phillips.

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Speaker 1: All new guys coming in. This is a new group.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a new team and as much

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Speaker 1: fun as we had at the end of the last season, Murph,

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Speaker 1: when the team was playing and they were kind of

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Speaker 1: clicking better and the defense was really tough to score on.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun, and we had to

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Speaker 1: say goodbye to a bunch of really good guys. That

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Speaker 1: team's never gonna be again. This team this year, apparently

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Speaker 1: it appears in a lot of ways, maybe better, and

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Speaker 1: certainly they still have a lot of guys we enjoy

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Speaker 1: watching playing and they're part of the cool guys that

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Speaker 1: are carried over. But this this team is going to

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Speaker 1: be just as fun. They still haven't won anything, but

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Ray I see him start the season and try.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a fun group. Tomorrow show should

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Speaker 1: be a fun Showy of Cynthia Freeland Non she is

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Speaker 1: the analytics expert, the numbers expert for NFL NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: She's always good to have, Steve, She's not just crunching

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Speaker 1: out number. She gives some thought to it and she's

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Speaker 1: a good analyst. I'm looking forward to talk of the

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Speaker 1: Cynthia tomorrow. Yeah, she'll be great. She gives some practical

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Speaker 1: meaning to her numbers as good. Hey, our production assistance

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, j j Arito, Kevin Cargis, James Robol, Our

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Speaker 1: board ops today Brytan Wilson, Joe Dibias, and our producer

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Speaker 1: is Jay Harris. That note for us today, We're back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at twelve noon. I hope you can join us.

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Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio