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Speaker 1: Hello, They're happy Monday, and welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Chuck Podcast. I got a few emails from some

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Speaker 1: of you who wondered how bad my mood was on

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning, because I have let you guys know that

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Speaker 1: my mood. The one thing University of Miami wins and

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Speaker 1: losses do more than any other of my sports teams,

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Speaker 1: more than the Packers, more than the Nats, is it

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Speaker 1: affects my mood. Here's what I can't admit. I'll have

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Speaker 1: a little bit more to say at the end of

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I have promised I will keep my sports

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Speaker 1: obsessions towards the end so that way the true diehards

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Speaker 1: to the Toodcast. We'll get there. We'll get that fix.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot to say about the game. I

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Speaker 1: hate the idea that I may have predicted this exact

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Speaker 1: outcome and how it went. I will get into it.

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Speaker 1: I will get into a little bit more. In college football,

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Speaker 1: we got another coach firing already, all fascinating to watch.

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Speaker 1: At some point, who's going to be left to hire

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Speaker 1: all these the amount of money when you have Penn

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Speaker 1: State in Florida and Arkansas, huge programs that are going

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Speaker 1: to throw all sorts of dollars at their coaching search.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget UCLA that has a lot of money. Who

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Speaker 1: else follows right down that road? Virginia Tech thinks it's

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Speaker 1: a major program. What about Clemson? It's clear that Dabo

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Speaker 1: was actually worried about his job. Anyway, I said, I

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Speaker 1: was going to wait until the end and I will look.

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Speaker 1: I think there was the big event of the weekend

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Speaker 1: obviously was an O Kings protest. A frankly, a pretty

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Speaker 1: I think it was a pretty impressive showing. I think

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Speaker 1: what the question with these protests is is what we

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Speaker 1: what do we learn from them? Do they translate into something? Look,

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Speaker 1: the timing of this protest is not random, Okay, The

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Speaker 1: timing of this protest comes basically in the middle of

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Speaker 1: early voting here in Virginia. You've got the New Jersey elections.

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Speaker 1: You have a bunch of off your elections, right, this

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Speaker 1: is these are these are as. My friend John Ellis

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Speaker 1: national significance. And he's not wrong, and they will have

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Speaker 1: national significance. What happens in Virginia. How strong is the

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Speaker 1: anti Trump vote? Well, we now have an easy measurement

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Speaker 1: to find out how strong, how powerful are anti Trump

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Speaker 1: not qualified. I think I think has pretty much made it,

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Speaker 1: you know, from what has rhetorically said. It's certainly I

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Speaker 1: think there are questions whether he's qualified to be attorney

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Speaker 1: general and Jay Jones, but if he wins, it's really

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Speaker 1: a bigger statement on Trump, arguably really than anybody else.

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Speaker 1: Not Mer's, not Jones, not anything, you know, because if

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Speaker 1: this election is held sort of in isolations, Joan doesn't win,

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Speaker 1: Mirs wins this thing, and he still probably wins the

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Speaker 1: you know, I'd still probably rather be him. But we

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Speaker 1: know in these statewide elections, gubernatorial the gubernatorial vote has

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Speaker 1: with her, Abigail Spamberger. The question is does it bring two.

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Speaker 1: I told you that Jason Miaris has already basically thrown

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Speaker 1: the Republican nominee for governor under the bus. Since they

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Speaker 1: have divergent strategies on Abigail Spamberger's rhetoric on j Jones,

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Speaker 1: Miaris has decided to embrace her rhetoric, even as Winston

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Speaker 1: mertle Series has been trying to knock it down. But

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Speaker 1: the point is is that when you're doing a political

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Speaker 1: protest like this, the true way to measure its impact

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Speaker 1: and whether it's having an impact beyond just being an

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Speaker 1: the next measurement of political activity is going to be

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Speaker 1: the off off year elections that take place in three weeks.

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Speaker 1: The timing of this in some ways the smarter campaigns

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Speaker 1: in New Jersey, in Virginia, in mayor's races in California

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Speaker 1: So all of those cases there was likely organizing. We

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Speaker 1: know that there was organizing going on in those places

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Speaker 1: the point is there's a couple of ways to measure this,

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Speaker 1: I do. I've done, with the help of a bunch

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Speaker 1: the no Kings protest. The estimate is about over two

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Speaker 1: It has been you know, this Jay Jones thing has

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Speaker 1: this turn the page on that and help Democrats? That's

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Speaker 1: a way to measure there. In San Francisco, one organizer

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Speaker 1: what I would call a protest culture, very comfortable out

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Speaker 1: I've seen the polling, you know, if you want to

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Speaker 1: a real focus on the proposition campaign, on the redistricting

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Speaker 1: Half a million. Chicago had one hundred thousand grant parks

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Speaker 1: City had an estimate of one hundred thousand. The largest

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Speaker 1: the most. Portland, Oregon, claimed about forty thousand protesters there.

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Speaker 1: They were in a downtown area, carnival like atmosphere. The

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Speaker 1: inflatable costumes that we've seen at the detention centers as

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Speaker 1: inflatable costumes have become a hallmark of Portland. San Diego

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Speaker 1: sixty thousand. Not insignificant in a military town. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty big number for San Diego. Not a protest

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Speaker 1: culture there. Speaking of places where you don't normally see

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Speaker 1: protest cultures in the deep South, Atlanta only had about

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Speaker 1: ten thousand filled the Atlantic CI Civic Center parking lot,

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Speaker 1: little less of a protest culture. The protest culture California,

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Speaker 1: the Northeast, a little bit. In the midwest. Madison, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: fifteen thousand a march near the state capital. Hartford, Connecticut

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Speaker 1: Their in Sacramento, you had about five thousand. State Capitol

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Speaker 1: what we've seen Wisconsin. There's there's quite a bit. Both

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Speaker 1: look the big what I was curious about and nervous about.

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Speaker 1: the administration's response. Was there anything that was going to

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Speaker 1: looking for a confrontation. Would they find a confrontation Here's

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Speaker 1: there was no major confrontations like that. So in the

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Speaker 1: official level, it feels as if Lawnforce essentially treated this

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Speaker 1: with respect. It seems like protesters I saw there was

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Speaker 1: issue that I've brought up a few times, which is

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Speaker 1: why they were Republican administration, why Donald Trump does not

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Speaker 1: believe he's president for all the people. He really only

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Speaker 1: believes he's president for his base. It explains his rhetoric

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Speaker 1: he retweeted this that essentially had a AI personification of

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Speaker 1: mean it is you know, we're so used to sort

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Speaker 1: of the childlike behavior of him at times of this movement,

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Speaker 1: an arrested development quality, right that phrase, mean phrase isn't

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Speaker 1: television show, sorry Ron Howard, but it is an actual

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Speaker 1: And I always say what he thinks is humorous because

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump doesn't laugh. Donald Trump doesn't naturally laugh. Go

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Speaker 1: tell me where you've found him naturally laugh. He does

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Speaker 1: very well. It's just if you want to chalk it up.

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Speaker 1: with friends, you know. And I'd actually thrown an aside.

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Speaker 1: You know what phrase you never hear connected to Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump lifelong friend. There's nobody that is connected to him

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Speaker 1: that is ever described as Donald Trump's lifelong friend, Donald

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Speaker 1: Think about that. Every other president we've ever had has

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Speaker 1: people that knew you before you were somebody? Right, I'm

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Speaker 1: before you were somehow a boldface name to somebody, not

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. It's the it's one of the most Sometimes

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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, I think we forget that there are

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Speaker 1: non stories, stuff that doesn't happen, which is worth reporting. Right,

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Speaker 1: One thing that doesn't happen anymore. He doesn't travel the country.

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Speaker 1: He just doesn't. He doesn't sell his agenda. He doesn't explain,

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Speaker 1: you know, he certainly takes plenty of questions. He seems active,

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Speaker 1: but he actually doesn't move very often. Yes, he goes

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Speaker 1: overseas and he wants his big summits. When's the last

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Speaker 1: yet about what's really going on here. So here's what

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Speaker 1: officials said on the repatriation decision. Officials said that this

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Speaker 1: was a humanitarian gesture, but to legal experts, repatriation looks

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Speaker 1: like something else. Entirely. It is a way to avoid

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Speaker 1: tough questions about the legal status of these survivors. Are

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Speaker 1: they criminals? Are they enemy combatants? Remember we went through

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Speaker 1: this during nine to eleven and getmo some of this

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Speaker 1: language is going to sound familiar to those of you

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Speaker 1: that remember all of those decisions about people. How are

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Speaker 1: they picked up these terrorists, these Alcaedo folks. Anyway, So criminals,

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Speaker 1: enemy combatants? Are they victims? Because the answer matters a ton.

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Speaker 1: It determines what laws end up applying. Do our laws apply,

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Speaker 1: do maritime laws apply? Do military courts have the upper

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Speaker 1: hand here? If they're treated as combatants, then the US

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00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: is admitting it's an armed conflict. If they're treated as criminals,

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Speaker 1: then they have rights to do process, to counsel, to trial.

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00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: That pesky constitution suddenly is in the way. Right by

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Speaker 1: sending them back to their home countries, the administration doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to choose. It avoids putting anyone in US custody

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00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: and therefore avoids the legal test case that could force

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Speaker 1: a court to decide whether America is now at war

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Speaker 1: with Venezuela in the Caribbean. I'll tell you this, this

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Speaker 1: is at some point, this is going to end up

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Speaker 1: in our court. Anyway. You will have perhaps the families

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Speaker 1: of victims claim, hey, they were fishing, they weren't part

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Speaker 1: of this. Maybe they were simply a worker on one

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Speaker 1: of these boats. Maybe they were hired hands. They weren't

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Speaker 1: necessarily part of the of the of of whatever the

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Speaker 1: narco business that we claim we know what's happening was

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Speaker 1: a part of. And it's likely they will try to

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Speaker 1: They're gonna look for some sort of uh, they'll probably

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Speaker 1: be looking for some sort of monetary justice, and it

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Speaker 1: could very well happen in our courts. So we're trying

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Speaker 1: to do this repatriation to avoid that. That's what survivors,

462
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Speaker 1: what about with those that didn't survive, just saying this

463
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Speaker 1: is a legal quagmire that is coming, I promise you.

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Speaker 1: So the administration, Pete Egseth has been pretty blunt. Here's

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Speaker 1: what he said on the Sunday shows this week. The

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Speaker 1: United States military will treat these organizations like the terrorists

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Speaker 1: they are. They will be hunted and killed just like

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Speaker 1: al Qaeda. So he is claiming these are terrorist organizations. Now.

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Speaker 1: To truly be a terrorist organization, the basic definition means

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Speaker 1: you're using let's say you're narco terrorists. I means you're

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Speaker 1: using your drug money to essentially fund this sort of

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Speaker 1: political uprising. What political uprisings being funded here? This may

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Speaker 1: be simply a criminal enterprise. But I digress. Here's another thing.

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Speaker 1: Hag Seth admitted though on Sunday, We've sunk seven boats,

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Speaker 1: We've seized nineteen tons of coke. No fentanyl yet, but

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Speaker 1: that's next. Whoabody what this whole thing is supposed to

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Speaker 1: be about fentanyl. You haven't gotten any fentanyl yet. There's

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Speaker 1: a reason for that. Ventanyl ain't a part of Venezuela's

479
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: drug trade. Then I'm going to get to that. But

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Speaker 1: no fentanyl yet. It totally undercuts the entire public rationale

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Speaker 1: of what Trump and Ruby have been saying about why

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Speaker 1: this is legal and about why it should be done

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Speaker 1: the way they're doing it. The fentanyl crisis, which we

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Speaker 1: do have one, has nothing to do with Venezuela or Columbia.

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Speaker 1: It has everything to do with Mexico and China. But

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Speaker 1: that's not where we're focused here. So none of these strikes,

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Speaker 1: they at least are admitting it. You got to give

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Speaker 1: haig Seth credit have actually stopped the flow of fedel

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Speaker 1: because they haven't found any fentyl. That's not where it is.

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Speaker 1: It's Chinese ingredients being manufactured in Mexico. We've known this

491
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Speaker 1: forever and ain't Venezuela. This is an obsession to get

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Speaker 1: rid of Maduro. Frankly, it's a worthy obsession. I empathize

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Speaker 1: with it. He's illegally in office. He lost an election,

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Speaker 1: a small d democratic election. The lack, frankly that of

495
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: international community of coming down harder on Venezuela over Maduro

496
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Speaker 1: essentially not abiding by the elections, has been extraordinarily disappointed.

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Speaker 1: Why this, If this is the you could argue, you

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Speaker 1: could make this the rationale. I don't know if a

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Speaker 1: lot of people would love it, because I do think

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons Trump has a has been able

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Speaker 1: to build MAGA and his base is by at least

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Speaker 1: rhetorically claiming that America First means we're not going to

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Speaker 1: get involved in other people's business, and in this case,

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00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: Venezuela would be other people's business. But the Defense secretary

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00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: admitted they've yet to seize any Fennol here, so you're

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Speaker 1: you're essentially bullshit. Rationale for this is going to come

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Speaker 1: home to rust. Marco Rubio defended the strikes. He called them,

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Speaker 1: quote lethal strikes on drug vessels operated by designated narco

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Speaker 1: terrorist organizations. Well, it's a designation that's not quite made up,

510
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Speaker 1: but kind of because we've never really had a narco

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Speaker 1: terrorist organization that we've that we've gone after. You could

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Speaker 1: loosely claim al Qaeda was narco terrorists because they certainly

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Speaker 1: they certainly had the poppy trade in Afghanistan, and certainly

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Speaker 1: they were using that money to fund their war within Afghanistan. Now,

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Speaker 1: Rubio has been he's trying to be extraordinary careful in

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Speaker 1: what he says in public. He insists that hits are targeted,

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Speaker 1: that they're not invasions, and that the president is not

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Speaker 1: is simply waging war on narco terrorists, not on the

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Speaker 1: people of Venezuela. And now here's what's fascinating. This latest

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Speaker 1: boat that they that they bombed wasn't even head of

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Speaker 1: the United States. Rubio noted the latest sub was likely

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Speaker 1: bound for Trinidad and Tobago or some other country in

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Speaker 1: the Caribbean, not the US mainland. He had another inconvenient fact,

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Speaker 1: if the goal is to stop drugs from reaching American streets,

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Speaker 1: so here's where the story gets even a bit murcurer.

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Speaker 1: Congress has not authorized any of this. What the administration

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Speaker 1: is trying to do is use older authorization use of

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Speaker 1: military force. Other aumfs out there, the big one from

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Speaker 1: two thousand and one, which never named a single organization

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Speaker 1: in it. This is what's been used for all sorts

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Speaker 1: of operations by multiple presidents, even as multiple even as

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Speaker 1: a both Obama and Trump and Biden, all three of

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Speaker 1: them at some point admitted that this AAMF needs to change,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't exactly urge Congress to do it. They said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if Congress sends me something I would I would sign it.

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Speaker 1: Congress has not been able because it is a It

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Speaker 1: is a fake. This is one of those fake issues

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00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: in Washington where everybody says that what the correct answer,

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Speaker 1: but behind the scenes they do everything they can to

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Speaker 1: make sure that answer doesn't come to fruition, right, and

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Speaker 1: getting rid of this authorization use of Military Force Post

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Speaker 1: nine to eleven that has been used for all sorts

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00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: of questionable military activity every time there's been bipartisan efforts

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Speaker 1: to get rid of it, and just when those bipartisan

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Speaker 1: efforts happened, there's bipartisan efforts to kill it, and there's

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Speaker 1: always enough force to kill it behind the scenes. But

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Speaker 1: it makes it look like, oh, they're trying, but I digress.

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Speaker 1: So here's what various members of Congress have said. None

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Speaker 1: of them believe this has been authorized. Mark Kelley, Democrat,

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Speaker 1: said after a classified briefing on these issues. He said

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Speaker 1: they had a very hard time explaining the legal rationale

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Speaker 1: and the constitutionality of doing it. He said the brief

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Speaker 1: we got referring to the US Senate had a tremendous number

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Speaker 1: of holes in it. Tim Kaine went further, Tim Kaine

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Speaker 1: has been on this trying to repeal the original AMF

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Speaker 1: or redo it. He's been trying to do it for

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Speaker 1: essentially most of his time in the A Senate. If

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Speaker 1: my colleagues think of war with Venezuela is a good idea,

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Speaker 1: they need to pass an AUMF about just that stop

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00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: the administration from dragging our country into an unauthorized and

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Speaker 1: escalating military conflict. And then there's course the loudest Republican

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Speaker 1: who's questioned these things. It's Ran Paul, much more of

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00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: a libertarian and frankly, very consistent on these issues in general.

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Speaker 1: He said, all of these people have been blown up

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Speaker 1: without us knowing their name, without any evidence of a crime.

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Speaker 1: We are simply supposed to take the word of Pete

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Speaker 1: Hagsat Marco Rubie. All of these folks who are not

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Speaker 1: under oath. When they're saying these things, they're simply on camera.

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Speaker 1: Keep that in mind. So so far, there's been no

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Speaker 1: formal vote, no war powers authorization, no clear oversight, just

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Speaker 1: a White House declaring an armed conflict with cartels and

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Speaker 1: expanding operations under that banner. By redefining traffickers as unlawful combatants,

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Speaker 1: the administration claims the right to use lethal force without

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Speaker 1: the normal checks that apply to law enforcement operations or

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Speaker 1: to wars formally declared by Congress. Essentially, by having this

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Speaker 1: murky nature trumpet, we're just green lighting just the killing

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Speaker 1: of folks without having to make a legal case that

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Speaker 1: we can do this. It's pretty unconstitutional, it's pretty undemocratic,

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Speaker 1: and it is a terrible precedent for us to say,

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Speaker 1: I mean, who are we to ever lecture any other

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Speaker 1: lecture China on the Wigers. Who are we to lecture

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Speaker 1: Putin on Ukraine and his sphere of influence for the

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Speaker 1: way we're behaving in the Western hemisphere here? There are

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Speaker 1: legal ways to do this. The case against Maduro is strong,

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Speaker 1: make the goddamn case against Maduro and is illegal co

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Speaker 1: opting of the government itself. He lost a free and

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00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: fair election there are actually reasons to do this, instead

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Speaker 1: of pretending it's something having to do with fentanyl when

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Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with fentyl. The administration's argument

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Speaker 1: is that these maritime operations right there claiming it's a

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Speaker 1: direct response to the overdose crisis in America and that

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Speaker 1: these cartels are killing Americans, so this is self defense.

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Speaker 1: But here's the disconnect. Fentanyl, the drug responsible for the

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Speaker 1: nearly two hundred thousand US deaths last year, is not

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Speaker 1: coming for the Caribbean or Venezuela, according to the DEA.

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Speaker 1: You know, again, this administration struggles facts sometimes, but there's

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Speaker 1: actual facts that sit out there, and there's data that

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Speaker 1: tells you where this fricking fentanyl's coming from. More than

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Speaker 1: ninety percent of fentanyl enters through US Mexico lands ports

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Speaker 1: of entry. It gets through the regular port of entry

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Speaker 1: because it's been impossible to seize. We seize it, but

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Speaker 1: other stuff gets through. This fentanyl is produced by Mexican

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Speaker 1: car tells, not these Venezuelan cartels, and they're using precursor

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Speaker 1: chemicals that they import from China, all of which we

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00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: do know already, all of which the Administration does cherry

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Speaker 1: pick whenever they want to get tough on Mexico or

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00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: whenever they want to get tough on China. But what

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00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: they're doing here with Venezuela is manufacturing an argument. That

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Speaker 1: is an argument if you wanted to make it with Mexico.

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Speaker 1: But we're not. We're not going down that road. That's

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Speaker 1: a different story. They're just essentially trying, and they realize

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Speaker 1: they're hoping that you, the American taxpayer, and you the

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Speaker 1: American public, is just going to conflate Ah, the Venezuelans, Mexico.

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Speaker 1: It's all the same. That's how stupid this administration thinks

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Speaker 1: you are. They think you're this stupid. They think you're

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Speaker 1: that you're going to be able to say all drug

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Speaker 1: smugglers are the same. They all look alike. That's how

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Speaker 1: stupid they think you are. Nobody says we don't have

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Speaker 1: a cocaine problem still in Columbia, a cocaine trafficking issue

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Speaker 1: in Venezuela, but it is not the one driving American

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Speaker 1: overdose deaths. If this is the rationale, and you better

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Speaker 1: be declaring war against these Mexican cartels. Basically, the current

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Speaker 1: US campaign has focused on geography. Marco Rubio has been

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Speaker 1: obsessed with Venezuela. Understandably, he's a South Floridian. Okay. I

625
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: always said that there's all sorts of biases that people have.

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Speaker 1: Some of it is just bias from where you're from.

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Speaker 1: I grew up down there. I get it. I have

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Speaker 1: Venezuelan friends. I see this. This guy's bad. We've destroyed

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Speaker 1: a great country, an incredible culture, and he is it is.

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Speaker 1: We got to do more to get the world community,

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Speaker 1: get this guy out of here. There's a variety of

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Speaker 1: ways to do it. This seems to be a way

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Speaker 1: that risks American lives one two risks creating a martyr.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna we haven't ruled out striking targets

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Speaker 1: in Venezuela. My guess is will say, it's places where

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Speaker 1: they're manufacturing the drug. This ain't gonna be the jungles

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Speaker 1: of Venezuela. Ain't gonna be an easy place to fight

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Speaker 1: a war. And you know, let's you know it was

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00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: this is how we get Mission creep. Go look at

640
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Speaker 1: the history in the very beginning of Vietnam. Okay, this

641
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: is how Mission Creep happens. But let's go back to

642
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: what this repatriation really reveals here, because it really is

643
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: the Big Toe. The United States is now flying B

644
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 1: fifty twos over the Caribbean, deploying Special operation helicopters, sinking boats,

645
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: killing people. It calls narco terras. But when two of

646
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: those survivors are captured alive, they quietly are sent back

647
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: to their home countries, out of sight, out of US,

648
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: and out of court. What the decision tells us is

649
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: that the administration understands they're in a legal gray area

650
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: that they're operating in. And if these men were brought

651
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: back here, judges and journalists would start asking questions, and

652
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: they don't want to have to answer those questions. They'd

653
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: have to answer questions about evidence, about jurisdiction, and what

654
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: rules would actually apply. Congress hasn't authorized this war. None

655
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: of these strikes are legal. The targets aren't attacking the

656
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: United States, the drugs that carry aren't the ones killing Americans,

657
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: and yet the White House keeps calling the self defense,

658
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: which brings us to the term. You've heard the President

659
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: and his cabinet repeat over and over again, narco terrorists.

660
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: What the hell does the term mean? Where did it

661
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: come from? Okay, well, let me tell you it's certainly

662
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: here's the actual definition for Merriam Webster terrorism financed by

663
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: profits from illegal drug trafficking, right, Meaning it's the drugs

664
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Speaker 1: are the drugs are sold to finance the terrorism. Is

665
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: that what's happening? All right? It's a generic term narco terrorism,

666
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: and it refers to the nexus between terrorism, insurgency, and

667
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: drug trafficking. So, as a working definition, a narco terrorist

668
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: is a person or group that uses drug trafficking or

669
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: profits funded to funder carried out acts of violence, intimidation,

670
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: or political corrosion, blurring the lines between criminal and politically

671
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: motivated violence. Can you make an argument Maduro's doing that?

672
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: Maybe you could, Right, Maduro is certainly repressing his people.

673
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: He's illegally in office, and he certainly has some sort

674
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Speaker 1: of influence and control over some of these gangs. Now,

675
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: it's not a brand new term. It was first used

676
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: actually in Peru Tero Rissimo. It was used by the

677
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: Peruvian president in nineteen eighty three to describe attacks by

678
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: traffickers on anti narcotics police. But it isn't clear the

679
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: first time the US this government ever really formally used

680
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: it was this year the executive order that Donald Trump,

681
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: signed on his first day back in office, uses the

682
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: vehicle of designating cartels and other organizations as force foreign

683
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: terrorist organization and specifically designated global terrorists. So essentially, it

684
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: was trying to create They created a definition to fit

685
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: the already previous authorized use of military force. That's what

686
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: this is all about. This does not mean Maduro is

687
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: a victim here. Okay, I don't want that. I'm not

688
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: interested in that coming across. But the United States has

689
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: succeeded being the leader of the free world because we rationalized, justify,

690
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: and we make legal arguments for what we do. This

691
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: administration doesn't believe in anything having to do with this Constitution.

692
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: They view the Constitution as an impediment to be worked around,

693
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: and they're always in search of a loophole in the

694
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: Constitution rather than upholding the spirit and the values of it.

695
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: And this is a clear and present danger. You see

696
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: what I did there, This is a clear and present

697
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: danger for the US's influence over Look, he's now mad

698
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: at the Colombian president. Look this guy, they're sort of

699
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't the friendliest Colombian leader to get elected.

700
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: That's true. He seems to be a bit more lenient

701
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: with the more socialist leaning Latin American leaders. But you

702
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: know what, he's unpopular in his own country because what

703
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: he promised has not come to fruition. He is likely

704
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: to not survive politically. This is a strong Columbia is

705
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: a strong democracy. The last thing we want to do

706
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: is create a martyr out of this current president. And

707
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: I would just warn this administration if backing out of

708
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: legal deals that we've made with the small This man

709
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: is a democratic small the democratic elected president of Colombia.

710
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: This is not like Maduro the risk of suddenly giving

711
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: him because Colombians don't want to look like that any

712
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: of their leaders are simply puppets of this administration, puppets

713
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: of the United States. The Trump's actions while he's trying

714
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: to send a message to Petro to work with the

715
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: United States instead of working quiet. Look, he's got his

716
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: own migration issues coming from Venezuela. You know, you think

717
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: we've got issues of Venezuela's coming over the border because

718
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: they're trying to flee the oppression of Madurea. So does Colombia.

719
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: But this, you know, our history in Latin America is

720
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: atrocious because we just go down there, always worried only

721
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: about our interests, never seeming to be concerned about the

722
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: people themselves. And we find a way to make more

723
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: enemies out of this place than we do allies. It

724
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: is been you know, fricking China has more allies in

725
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: South America than the United States does. That is a

726
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: big problem. And doing legally questionable military action like this

727
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: only makes it harder for the United States to sort

728
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: of win back Latin America into the US ecosystem rather

729
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: as they're drifting away into the China orbit. So I'm

730
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna stop there. And on the other side, it's the

731
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: toodcast time machine. It's a doozy today. It is not

732
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: Nixon related. That's my only clue. And with that, I'll

733
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: see any other side. It is time for the todcast

734
00:46:53,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: time machine. Where are we going? Where could we be going? Well?

735
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: Where are we going? We are going? And give you

736
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: the date, the specific date here. We are going to

737
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: October twenty fifth. As you know, right, I'm always looking

738
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: at the week, the week we're in, So October twenty fifth,

739
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: this week, where that is the date I am latching

740
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: onto because in October twenty fifth, nineteen twenty nine, the

741
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: United States government and a jury, and a jury made

742
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: up of US citizens convicted the first ever cabinet secretary

743
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: to prison. And it all had to do and in fact,

744
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: it all happened. He gets convicted and a couple of

745
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: days later, the stock market crash and the Roaring Twenties

746
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: come to a total and complete end. But that's where

747
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: I want to bring you. So October twenty fifth, nineteen

748
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: twenty nine. How did we get to that point where

749
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: we prosecuted a cabinet secretary? He was prosecuted for his

750
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: role in so called teapot Dome. So this is I've

751
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: been teasing about this. Let's talk about it. It was the

752
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: Roaring twenties. It was a decade that treated oil like

753
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: we treat data today, the fuel of the future, limitless

754
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: and irresistible. Right, the car was just coming up. Everybody

755
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: realized how important oil was. Well, data is that thing today.

756
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: Just setting that aside there, just be thinking about that.

757
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: But let's go back to the twenties. At the center

758
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: of all of it sat a rock formation in the

759
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: Wyoming Desert that was shaped like a teapot. This is

760
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: how the scandal got its name. Beneath it the US

761
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: Navy had stored millions of barrels of crude oil for

762
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: wartime emergencies. This site was called Teapot Dome. When Warren G.

763
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: Hardy became president in nineteen twenty one, he promised to

764
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: make Washington run like a business. We've heard that before, right.

765
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: He was genial, handsome, little bit more of a salesman

766
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: than man. And his poker knights in the White House

767
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: reflected that the press called his inner circle the Ohio Gang.

768
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: These were members of his regular poker gang. They were

769
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: his friends from Marion, Ohio, Harding's newspaper pals. They were

770
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: campaign backers and other hanger ons who followed into DC.

771
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: The Attorney General Harry Daughtry. He used the Justice Department

772
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: as a political machine, part of the Ohio Gang. Charles

773
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: Forbes at the Veterans Bureau skimmed hospital construction contracts and

774
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: fled to Europe when he got caught. Jess Smith was

775
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: the fixer for Harry Daughtry at Justice. He killed himself

776
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: as investigations began to close in. It was a government

777
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: that looked like a poker table full of cigars and whiskeys,

778
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: and IOUs into that circle stepped another man, Albert Bacon Fall.

779
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: He was a hard drinking former senator from New Mexico.

780
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Speaker 1: Harding admired his frontier swagger. This is New Mexico in

781
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: the nineteen teens and twenties. Right Fall ran the Interior

782
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: Department and he saw those idle Navy oil reserves as

783
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: wasted assets. Harding, trusting his friend mister Fall, signed an

784
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: executive order that quietly transferred control of those fields from

785
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: the Navy to the Interior Department. Fall then leased them

786
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: without competitive bidding to two oil barons, Harry F. Sinclair,

787
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Speaker 1: founder of Sinclair Oil. He took Teapot Dome in Wyoming,

788
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: and yes, that's the same Sinclair era with the green

789
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: Dinosaur logo still operating out of Tulsa today. Edward L.

790
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: Dohiney was the head of the Pan American Petroleum and

791
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: Transport Company. He received the California naval reserves at oil

792
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: reserves at Elk's Elk Hills and Buena Vista. Dony's firm

793
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: would eventually be absorbed into Standard Oil of Indiana, later

794
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: Amaco and then BP Corporate Fossil that still traces roots

795
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: to this deal. So what did Fall get in return? Well,

796
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: he got four hundred thousand dollars, which is seven million

797
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: dollars in today's dollars in loans and gifts. One infamous

798
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: delivery saw Downie's Sun carry a black bag full of

799
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: cash straight into falls Washington apartment. We haven't had fifty

800
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: thousand dollars paper bags of cash in any story lately,

801
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: have we? But I digress. When the story leaked in

802
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty two, the US Senate decided to launch hearings

803
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: led by Senator Thomas Walsh of Montana, a Democrat. Harding,

804
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: weary and embarrassed, set off on a cross country voyage

805
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: of understanding in order to reconnect with the public, Essentially,

806
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: pay no attention to these scandal headlines that you're seeing.

807
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: By the summer of nineteen twenty three, twenty three, rumors

808
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: were swirling not just about Teapot Dome, but about Harding's

809
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: personal life as well. He had carried on a long

810
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: affair with a woman named Nan Britton, who claimed her

811
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: daughter was Harding's child. It's a claim that would be

812
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: confirmed by DNA tests in twenty fifteen. By the way,

813
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: another mistress, Carrie Phillips, had written him hundreds of steamy

814
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: letters the Republican Party would pay to suppress. So when

815
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: Harding collapsed in San Francisco that August nineteen twenty three

816
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: and died suddenly at the age of fifty seven. Remember

817
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: he was a little bit overweight, the whispers spread faster

818
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: than the telegrams. Had he been poisoned this this is

819
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: something to do with teapot, don't had he died in

820
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: bed with another woman. The truth, of course, was more mundane.

821
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: He likely had a heart attack brought on by exhaustion

822
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 1: and bad health. But the gossip boy did that stick

823
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: because the corruption already felt contagious after his death, President

824
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: Calvin Coolidge silent cow allowed investigators to keep digging because

825
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: he really wasn't that involved in this. In nineteen twenty seven,

826
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court voided both leases, calling them products of

827
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: corruption and fraud. And on October twenty fifth, which will

828
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: be coming up pretty soon, so we're almost at the

829
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: one hundredth anniversary, that's the ninety sixth anniversary, Albert Fall

830
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: was convicted of bribery. He'd be the first U. S

831
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: Cabinet member ever sent to prison. He served nine months,

832
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: and he died penniless a decade later. He didn't. I

833
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: guess he didn't have a president that was willing to

834
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: pardon him or commute his sentence. But I digress. That

835
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: convention came the very same week the stock market crash,

836
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: ending the Roaring twenties with some poetic symmetry, a nation

837
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: drunk on speculation finally waking up with a hangover. Look.

838
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: I bring this up not because it's an interesting nugget

839
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: in history, but because, as we know, history as a

840
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: way of not quite repeating itself. But boyd does it run.

841
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 1: So here we are a century later. The names have changed,

842
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: but the temptation hasn't. One Hundred years ago, it was oilies.

843
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: Now it's the public private partnerships, infrastructure megaprojects, defense start up.

844
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: It's crypto mining zones, social media ventures, all dressed up

845
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: as innovation, all blurring who's serving whom. President Trump has

846
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: made these deals a centerpiece of his second term. Some

847
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: may be legitimate, but, as with Harding, personal loyalty often

848
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: outruns public accountability. The language is even eerily familiar. Right efficiency,

849
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Speaker 1: cutting red tape, bringing business savvy to government. Harding used

850
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: that language, so does Trump. Albert Fall use those phrases

851
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: to justify bypassing the competitive bidding rules. Teapot Dome taught

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00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: Congress why oversight is not bureaucracy, it's protection. It birthed,

853
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: in fact, the modern system of inspectors general at different

854
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: cabinet agencies. We didn't have them before this financial disclosures

855
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: Senate investigations that still bear Washle's fingerprints, the Montana Senator.

856
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: But the guardrails only work if we use them, and

857
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: this Congress does no oversight. We've gone through this the politically,

858
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: we only will do Congress will only do oversight if

859
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: the president, and if Congress is controlled by a different

860
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: party than the president in the White House, it actually

861
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: probably we ought to change our oversight rules. I believe

862
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Speaker 1: Japan does it this way, where the out party should

863
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: always be in charge of oversight, just pure and simple.

864
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: You know, whatever party the president is the chairman of

865
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: the oversight committee with subpoena power ought to be ought

866
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: to be from the other party. But I digress. So

867
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: making government run like a business sounds good until the

868
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: business becomes self dealing. And that's what happened with Harding,

869
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: and that is a concern of what's happening today. Harding's

870
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: friends called him the most likable man alive, and that

871
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: was the problem. He couldn't say no to anyone he liked.

872
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Today is the federal government signs

873
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: profit sharing deals with companies tied to the president's allies

874
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: and family network. The same question lingers that haunted Teapot don't.

875
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: Where does public service end and private profit begin? If

876
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: history has a lesson, it's this when secrecy and self

877
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: interest merge, the scandal isn't an accident, it's inevitable. So

878
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: before we all call every new venture a partnership, remember

879
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: what happened in October twenty fifth, nineteen twenty nine, when

880
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: Albert Fall traded the nation's trust for personal gain. And

881
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: he fell hard enough to give his name to history

882
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: on this one. So there's your history lesson for the day,

883
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: Teapot Dome. I'm telling you, folks, forget Watergate. Are you

884
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: looking for a parallel of an uncomfortable situation we're in

885
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: right now with the government's relationship with the tech industry.

886
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: Go back to the twenties, my friend, Go back to

887
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: the twenties. All right, with that, let's take a new

888
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: Let's do a couple of questions and I'll get in

889
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: quickly to my college football takes. Ask Chuck, I'm going

890
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: to do just a couple of questions because I went

891
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: a little bit long. Here's the first one, Rich from

892
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: New York. Hi, Chuck, love the show. Appreciate all you

893
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: do for all of us keeping a level head in politics.

894
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: On Saturday, I participated in the No Kings march. Had

895
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: great energy, but at a minimum made me feel like

896
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy for my outrage other than my own

897
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: personal feelings. Does it have any impact on politics? It

898
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: seems to me these protests were large and blue northern

899
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: cities where the Trump administration has been hostile. Additionally, this

900
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: will have zero to no effect on Mike Johnson or

901
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: John Thune and it also won't have any real effects

902
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: on the midterms. Lay it to me straight, Did I

903
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: waste my Saturday or is there something accomplished from the protest? Thanks? Well, look,

904
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think of the what I said

905
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: the two measurables were measurables were of this? I do think, like,

906
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, if Democrats overperform in Virginia in November, and

907
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: to me, overperform is you know, getting north of fifty

908
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: five state house seats, winning all three of the state

909
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: wide elections, even with an extraordinarily flawed, if not unqualified

910
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: candidate for attorney general. Well, I will tell you these

911
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: protests were certainly helped with political organizing. I think the

912
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: fact that the president expressed his feelings escally and there's

913
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: been this sort of demonization of Americans here. I think

914
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: that actually is going to have some legs that that

915
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: likely won't go well politically for the Republicans. But again,

916
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: you're not wrong for asking this question. It was the

917
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,959
Speaker 1: question I essentially led the podcast with today to which

918
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: if you're listening all the way through, you you already

919
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: know this, But I will say this, be careful underestimating

920
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: the impact of these protests. I think it's quite remarkable

921
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: that where there was an incredibly nice day all over

922
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: the country in many places, well actually, unless you were

923
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: in Fayetteviell, Arkansas, where they had a two hour rain

924
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: delay for that football game, it was pretty nice day.

925
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: In a lot of these cities, there was plenty of

926
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: reasons to do other things. I think this, You know,

927
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: if if it's a trigger in political organization and voter registration,

928
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: then that's how you can call these effective. All right,

929
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: let me dig the next questionnaire. David from Baltimore. Since

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00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: most people assume that liberals control the mainstream media. While

931
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: there may be a moderate liberal slant in much of

932
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: the news, or at least in what's left of it,

933
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: I feel that MAGA actually dominates the talking points. Trump

934
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: in particular, has mastered the art of deflection when it

935
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: comes to media coverage. Simple remarks, some like suggesting he

936
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: might run again, end up distracting the public from issues

937
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: such as the legality of ice raids, military actions in Venezuela,

938
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: or the blatant corruption involving Trump and his family, all

939
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: three topics that I think we've already discussed in this

940
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: episode and didn't do too much on Ice. How can

941
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: democrats regain control of the narrative and keep public attention

942
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: focused on the issues that matter most, especially those that

943
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: could make a real difference in future elections. David from Baltimore. Look,

944
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: I do think you know it's funny. I do think

945
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: that all media consumption has a right lean right if

946
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: you look at the totality of social media, the totality

947
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: of if you put it all together, the ideological lean

948
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: and the sort of impact is on the right. Right,

949
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: there's definitely more on the right than on the left.

950
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: The right's a bit more comfortable, sort of sort of

951
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: rallying around one large talking point. The left is more diffuse. Right.

952
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: I think the fact is that Trump, the anti Trump

953
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: coalition does not have a lot in common other than

954
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: anti Trump, the pro Trump coalition has a ton in common.

955
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: They feel grievance and victimhood and all of this in

956
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: that sense, and that has fueled so right. Social media

957
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: really has proved to be an accelerant for victimhood and grievances,

958
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: and I think because of that it has allowed the

959
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: right to essentially control the narrative right. And that's essentially

960
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Chris Hayes, an MSNBC host. He's written

961
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: he's written a pretty good interesting I've had today in

962
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: the Times that I would tell you to check it out.

963
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: And he's wrote a book about this issue of the

964
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: attention economy, and his essentially his answer to this question

965
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: is Democrats have to essentially do what they can to

966
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: dominate the attention economy, even if it's on issues that

967
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with politics. That Donald Trump essentially

968
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: and it goes back to sort of a philosophy. He

969
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: would sort of adopt somebody else's grievance on anything. Almost

970
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: like that's sort of where this Maha movement. How did

971
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: it end up in the Maga movement? These are folks

972
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: who are pretty liberal on a lot of issues, but

973
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: they have sort of they have some antiquated views of science,

974
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: and they found their grievance partner in Donald Trump, right,

975
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 1: And so you know, I wonder if it's attitudinal right

976
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: that if the left wants to But I just you know,

977
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: I go back to something my mother said, why she's

978
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: a Democrat because she doesn't want to agree with everything

979
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: someone says. She views the Democratic Party is more diverse

980
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: on disagreeing with each other, more open to being although

981
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: I think that's less and less. I think there was

982
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: a time the Democratic Party was the bigger tent, and

983
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: now the Republican Party has become the bigger tent, or

984
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: the perceived bigger tent. And when you look at where

985
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: young men are, where this Maha movement is, there certainly

986
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: are in Latino voters. There's certainly some pieces there. There

987
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: seems to be more rules, you know, and that's where

988
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: if you're looking for add initudinal. The left seems to

989
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: have a bunch of rules that keep people from supporting them.

990
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: The right has no rules, but in a weird way,

991
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: it makes it a bit more inviting, or it feels

992
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: as if you can you're not going to get judged

993
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: if you decide you're going to support them on one

994
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: issue and none of the others. So that's basically where

995
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: I come out. I do think the point you make

996
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: those an important one, which is, let's not forget. Yes,

997
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: the New York Times may lean left, but overall most

998
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: the totality of media people consume it all leans right.

999
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: People are getting a right leaning media narrative on a

1000
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: more consistent basis than anything being driven being driven by

1001
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: the left, and that's born out by actual data. Right,

1002
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: there's this perception you say something enough people believe it.

1003
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: Media is liberal. Media is liberal. Media is liberal. Media

1004
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: is liberal. The media is much bigger than what you know.

1005
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: If you want to say Dan Rather was liberal, or

1006
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: you want to say The New York Times was liberal,

1007
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: or you want to say CNN or MEMBSBC, but it

1008
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: is not the dominant to sort of. It may have

1009
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: the more famous names that run those news organizations, but

1010
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: it's not actually the dominant content that's out there. The

1011
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: content of the Internet leans right. All right, let me

1012
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: dig into my weekend from hell, the loss, the University

1013
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: of Miami's loss. Now, look as I sort of as

1014
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: I previewed, I said, this was Louisville's most important game

1015
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: of the year. It always is. This is one of

1016
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: those every every major football program has rivalries that they

1017
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: don't care about as much as the other team cares about.

1018
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: Right in the Big Ten, there's a ton of them. Right,

1019
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,479
Speaker 1: Michigan Minnesota. I think they do the Brown jug game.

1020
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: Boyd does Minnesota care about that? Eh? Michigan Right, Michigan

1021
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: Michigan State. Boy does Michigan State care about that game?

1022
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: Michigan doesn't want to lose it. They hate when Little

1023
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: Brother wins, but they care more about Ohio State for

1024
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: Miami we care about. I care about the Florida State game,

1025
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: and I think Florida State equally cares about the Miami

1026
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: That's one of those where the rivalries. It's kind of

1027
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: like Michigan iast day, but Florida doesn't care about the

1028
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: Miami game as much as Miami cares about beating Florida.

1029
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: I think there was a time Miami Notre Dame was

1030
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: pretty equal, and maybe that comes back if they start

1031
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: playing each other a tad more frequently because of this

1032
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: acc rotation and because they're going to drop USC Miami

1033
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I just you know, and you know, it's

1034
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: a there is. It has just a little bit of everything,

1035
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: but it is one of those Notre Dame fans care

1036
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: about it. They don't like listen to Miami because of

1037
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: those memories, at least at least there. But it's still

1038
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a point in time rivalry. So I don't

1039
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: know they need to play more for it to come back.

1040
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: Now Louisville and Miami are going to play more. It's

1041
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: really important to Louisville to win this game, so they

1042
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: put everything into it. You know, this isn't a game

1043
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: where we can you know, there's been this assumption, and frankly,

1044
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: Miami's done this for years. Even in their national title years,

1045
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: there was always a game they almost blew out of nowhere.

1046
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: I remember ed Reid saving a game against Boston College

1047
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: in Boston College. We were playing terribly and Boston College

1048
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: is about to go in for the winning touchdown and

1049
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: he just grabs a ball. We get a turnover, and

1050
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: then he grabs the ball and runs it in for

1051
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: a touchdown and just puts the game away. But it

1052
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: was like Edward wasn't going to let us lose. But

1053
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: we almost blew a game that we had no I

1054
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: think we were three or four touchdown favorites in that one.

1055
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: Every year there's a game like this, there's been this reputation,

1056
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: is Mario Christoval going to like, you know, screw up

1057
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, the clock management game or something like this,

1058
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: like that infamous Georgia Tech game two years ago. There

1059
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: was none of that there. This was Carson Beck trying

1060
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: to be a hero. I saw a lot of Georgia

1061
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: fans pop up in my feed to say, hey, we

1062
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: know this version of Carson Beck. Look he did, he

1063
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: tried to be a hero, and yet we still almost

1064
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: won the game. So I'm weirdly I expected this or

1065
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: Pitt to be the game that bit us Pitt is

1066
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: our last game of the year, and that's that pit. Hopefully.

1067
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: Now this means we are super focused in every game

1068
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: and we look they scored. When you look at what

1069
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: Louisville had to do, they used every They literally created

1070
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: an entirely new first drive game plan. They got their touchdown.

1071
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: They never ran any of those plays again because you

1072
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: only can really run them once, and they essentially they

1073
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: scored quickly fourteen points and then and then Miami won

1074
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: the rest of the game twenty one to ten. But

1075
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't enough. Fourtune nerves are going to do that,

1076
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: pure and simple. So I'm disappointed, sadly a little not surprised.

1077
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: I hate these Friday Island games. They suck, all right,

1078
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 1: they simply suck. So what does that tell us about

1079
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: college foot? Look, I I think it's still possible that everybody,

1080
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: everybody in the playoff will have one loss. That's that's

1081
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: my bold, hot take prediction. Everybody in the playoff will

1082
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: have at least one law us. Now, of course, the

1083
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: question is who beats Ohio State. Well won't be Penn

1084
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: State in two weeks, that, I promise you. But UCLA

1085
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: goes to Ohio State, are you betting against I bet.

1086
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not gonna bet on UCLA winning that game,

1087
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: but I bet you that's close. They play Michigan and

1088
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: then I'll have the Big ten title game. I think

1089
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: they have three games on their schedule that there are

1090
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: that they need to be a little bit concerned about

1091
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: the UCLA game, the Michigan game, which will be at Michigan,

1092
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: and then of course the likely title game against Indiana.

1093
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: The potential for them to have one loss is certainly there.

1094
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: How about Indiana, where would they get their one loss? Well,

1095
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: Indiana has remaining. I think we're all curious ab how

1096
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: UCLA does against You know, the UCLA is a totally

1097
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: different team now, right, they should be fine at Maryland

1098
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: and at Penn State, But aren't you kind of curious

1099
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: to see how those road games go. Indiana is different

1100
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: on the road. They almost they should have lost Iowa.

1101
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the game that will be the one that

1102
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 1: they should have lost, and there'll be none on others.

1103
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: And don't sleep on their last game of the season

1104
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: against Purdue. It's at Purdue, right and these in state

1105
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: rivalries throw the records out. Then of course there's a

1106
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: big Ten title game Texas, A and m that's the

1107
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: other big undefeated that's left. I think, what do we

1108
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: have left in the undefeated? That's it? Really. I think

1109
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: that's the major undefeateds that could be in the playoff

1110
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: A and M I think I said told you they

1111
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: would get a scare in this one. They have LSU

1112
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: next week. Although this feels like we're gonna find out

1113
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 1: everything we need to know about Brian Kelly. Billy Napier

1114
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: was the firing so far. I boa is LSU gonna

1115
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: also have an open I mean, my god, the level

1116
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: of jobs out there, I mean, what the hell is

1117
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,839
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech gonna do? Right? They're behind Penn State, They're

1118
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: behind Florida, now behind UCLA. Does LSU change? Arkansas already

1119
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: has big money that they're throwing at their potential coaching opening.

1120
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: So next week LSU loses, Kelly gets fired. That's because

1121
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: the game's at LSU. We're going to find out how

1122
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: much this team likes Brian Kelly. Will they rally for him?

1123
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: It's a huge game, and then plays at Missouri, And

1124
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: of course they have the big game against Texas at

1125
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: the end of the season. So there's certainly plenty of

1126
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: ways that they that they are likely to go down.

1127
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: So the likelihood that everybody has one loss, right, b

1128
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: YU still undefeated. I doubt they finish their season undefeated.

1129
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: It's just unlikely that's going to happen Georgia Tech's undefeated.

1130
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: That's another one. They got. Georgia left on their schedule,

1131
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: and they're going to face a Miami or a Louisville

1132
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: or somebody like that in the in the ACC title game.

1133
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: So just consider that. Maybe I'm just saying that it

1134
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: make myself feel better about Miami. There's a tiny bit

1135
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 1: of that in me. I'm not gonna lie, but it's

1136
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: also the way this college football season's going. I think

1137
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: if you could find a bet out there that say

1138
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: there'll be no undefeated team in the playoff wick. I

1139
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: have no idea whether Fandel, DraftKings, bet MGM, whoever wants

1140
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: to sponsor my little segment here. They're welcome to sponsor it.

1141
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: So we'll only pick one of you. But that would

1142
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: be a fun bet to lay that no undefeated team

1143
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: will be invited to the claff mark it down. That's

1144
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: my prediction. All right? With that, I will see in

1145
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: forty eight hours. Thanks for investing some time in the show.

1146
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:30,080
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1147
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:34,680
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1148
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,400
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