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Speaker 1: And welcome to Lake. It is live. It is Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: July twenty second, the Oar of Our Lord twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: without a doubt, one of our most anticipated shows since

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Speaker 1: we've done this show at twenty four to seven Sports.

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Speaker 1: Suffice it to say, we are jam packed. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for being here, whether you're watching live or watching all

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Speaker 1: the replayer, listening to the podcast. Thank you, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Numbers through the roof so again, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Texas may be headed to the SEC. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe the words just came out of my mouth,

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Speaker 1: but they did. And so we've got a lot to

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Speaker 1: discuss you and I about potentially the Sooners and the

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Speaker 1: Longhorns on the move. And that is just the beginning

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Speaker 1: of several big, life sized dominoes falling in this sport.

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Speaker 1: Don't think there's a lot of skill in predicting where

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Speaker 1: it's going to end up. But I do have several thoughts,

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Speaker 1: like ten or fifteen thoughts I'm gonna bring to you

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Speaker 1: media days. We have a lot of takeaways. There were

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Speaker 1: some things said that are off the radar, because everything

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Speaker 1: else in college sports is off the radar right now.

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Speaker 1: In relation to the big, just bombshell news yesterday, but

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Speaker 1: I want to bring them to your attention, so we'll

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Speaker 1: do that before we go off the air. Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: and Alabama when they came to SEC media as there

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Speaker 1: wasn't really a huge kerfuffle, and you know how really

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Speaker 1: I use that word, but there was something overarching and

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Speaker 1: has been for a while really about Nick Saban's presence

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Speaker 1: and how he's treated in college football, both by media

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Speaker 1: and fans. I never thought i'd see it, but yet

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Speaker 1: it's happening. So I'm going to discuss that and also

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Speaker 1: lost in all of just the debris flying around in

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Speaker 1: the world of college football today, it was a recruiting

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Speaker 1: rankings update day. And you may say, oh, that pales

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Speaker 1: in comparison, Well, you know, eventually we're going to play

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Speaker 1: football games and not just talking about realignment inil and

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Speaker 1: transfer portal. And there were some big moves today. We

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Speaker 1: had a new rankings update released here. Not only that,

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Speaker 1: I counted at least three colin at least three big

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Speaker 1: commitments today, So we're going to recap that. At the

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Speaker 1: very end, I cannot stress strong enough terms. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you're following me on Twitter and Instagram at late Kick Josh,

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Speaker 1: I told you this morning, if you listen to the

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Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra podcast, there are some things coming very

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Speaker 1: soon on that Instagram page, specifically that you don't get

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Speaker 1: anywhere else. There's a lot of stuff on Twitter you

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Speaker 1: don't get anywhere else. So I would encourage you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're into following college football accounts, go ahead and

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Speaker 1: follow that. Let me give you a little story. Sad

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Speaker 1: times here in Nashville. Director Colin and I, through no

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Speaker 1: planning work out at the same gym, or we did well,

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Speaker 1: they shut it down on us abruptly the other day.

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Speaker 1: So there I am. I joined a new gym, which

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Speaker 1: will remain unlisted for now, and I'm working out yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and there goes the eye Josh, ping ping, ping ping ping.

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Speaker 1: Now one of you, who is prone to fooling around

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Speaker 1: with me, says, what do you think about Oklahoma and Texas?

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Speaker 1: I thought you wanted a Big Twelve prediction this year,

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Speaker 1: So I said, well, I think, oh, you will win

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve spoiler alert, And I think Texas, I mean,

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Speaker 1: playing hypotheticals. No, we weren't. We were playing a full

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Speaker 1: blown bombshell of a Wednesday afternoon that a really transpired nationwide.

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Speaker 1: here we go. Do you know where your teams are tonight?

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Speaker 1: If you are the Big twelve, you do not. Pete

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Speaker 1: And then think about what this will mean. This is

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to. But we're talking about taking D two

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Speaker 1: what this is about. There's been a lot of short

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Speaker 1: Love the sport as a whole. I grew up. I

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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of this, albeit it bolsters

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Speaker 1: the sec Our show will make a ton of money

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Speaker 1: off this. I will benefit from this. Director Colin will

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Speaker 1: a favor and just grab Kevin Warren's nose and squeeze

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Speaker 1: it twice, because I want to hear if it goes

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Speaker 1: uncle un. That's what I wanted to hear. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm to leave alone because we bangled the big ten

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Speaker 1: enough last year. But here's what I also heard today.

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Speaker 1: Dabos Swinny stepped to the podium at SEC Media Days

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Speaker 1: or ACC Media Days, and I don't know what you

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Speaker 1: did with your summer, but I think Davos twenty spent

436
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Speaker 1: his entire vacation time just watching Late Kick videos. Because

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Speaker 1: this has been about two or three times this week

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Speaker 1: that I have heard Dabos Swinny essentially take Late Kick

439
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Speaker 1: transcripts and just read them. That's essentially what he was doing.

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Speaker 1: And not that that's a bad thing, not that anything's

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Speaker 1: wrong with that, but there will several quotes that have

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Speaker 1: been pretty outside the line's observation, the takes that we've

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Speaker 1: had on this show that Dabos Swinney is apparently bought into. Now,

444
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Speaker 1: there were others that I'm not going to get into

445
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Speaker 1: for the sake of time, but now we can roll

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Speaker 1: the Chris Hummer tweet. So I'm looking at Hummer, who's

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Speaker 1: covering ACC Media Days, and he had one of Dabo's quotes,

448
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Speaker 1: and look at this lo and behold quote from Davos Swinny.

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Speaker 1: Now we're going to twelve. He's talking about the playoff,

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Speaker 1: and you've basically become the NFL. Now it's truly all

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Speaker 1: about the playoff. I think you'll have kids opt out

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Speaker 1: of the playoff. To be honest with you, director Colin.

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Speaker 1: Does that sound familiar? It's sure, it does sound familiar

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Speaker 1: to me. And I got beat around pretty good publicly

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Speaker 1: for stating that I don't care. I'm gonna end up

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Speaker 1: being right. I don't like it, but I'm gonna end

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Speaker 1: up being right about that. But Dabos Twenny also sharing

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Speaker 1: in that sentiment. Now the pushback quickly to reiterate that

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Speaker 1: I got on that, and it may be out of context,

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Speaker 1: so you can go back and watch the video. But

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Speaker 1: I told you, I just simply don't think that you

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Speaker 1: can decrease the scarcity of something, in this case, a

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Speaker 1: playoff spot, so we go from four to twelve. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you can decrease the scarcity and just maintain

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Speaker 1: the value. See everyone's looking at it through current lenses

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Speaker 1: and saying no one's ever going to opt out of

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. Do you know how valuable those things are? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do right now. That's why no one opts out

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Speaker 1: of the four team model, and initially no one's going

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Speaker 1: to opt out of the twelve team model. But see

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Speaker 1: the assumption out there that I think is misguided is

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Speaker 1: a playoff spot will just always have the value on it.

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Speaker 1: It has. But what about when we get three or

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Speaker 1: four years in and we've developed a pattern, And what

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Speaker 1: if that pattern is the eight seed, nine, ten, eleven,

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Speaker 1: twelve seeds go into first or second round games as

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Speaker 1: three touchdown underdogs and they just get bludgeoned, they get

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Speaker 1: the walls painted with their blood, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, we start referring to those games as somewhat

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Speaker 1: meaningless playoff games, the same thing some of you guys

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Speaker 1: participated in when we started talking about Bowl games being

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Speaker 1: meaningless Bowl games. Now we assume, because there's a postseason

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Speaker 1: apparatus and there's consequence attached to this model, that will

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Speaker 1: never happen. But I think if you're really quiet for

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Speaker 1: a second, you may hear a faint echo of dissent,

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Speaker 1: not amongst fans, maybe not even amongst coaches. But Davos

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Speaker 1: Swinney said his team wasn't on board with a new model,

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't alone. You notice what mac Brown said.

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Speaker 1: Mack Brown said, our team's not on board with it either.

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Speaker 1: Canny Pickett up at Pitt not that they'll probably be

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Speaker 1: involved in this conversation one way or the other. But

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, a third team this week, kind of came

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Speaker 1: out and said through their quarterback, well, I don't really

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Speaker 1: think anyone cares what we have to say about it.

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Speaker 1: It's about money and so they're just going to do it.

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Speaker 1: Does that sound like a glowing, unanimous review and endorsement

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Speaker 1: of an expanded playoff? So that could be anecdotal. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not telling you every player is against it. Quite

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Speaker 1: the opposite. I think most players are for it. But

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Speaker 1: most players are for bowl games too. It only takes

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Speaker 1: a few to end up creating a trend. But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a few years down the road

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Speaker 1: before we find out either way. So let's table that.

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Speaker 1: How about Shane Beemer staying in the Palmetto State there

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Speaker 1: When Shane Beemer got hired at South Carolina, I told

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Speaker 1: you I love it because I think it is what

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Speaker 1: we call a culture fit, which is unique to college football.

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Speaker 1: Some things still are Sam Pittman at Arkansas unique to

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Speaker 1: college football? Shane Beemer at South Carolina I think unique

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Speaker 1: to college football. What I mean is these guys probably

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Speaker 1: don't fit in many other places, but that's okay. They

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Speaker 1: only need to fit at their current place. Now here's

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Speaker 1: the reality, which I think we all know, even those

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Speaker 1: of you in Columbia South Carolina understand. No football game

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Speaker 1: was played this week, but yet there's a ton more

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Speaker 1: optimism coming out of this week about Shane Biemer, which

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Speaker 1: is largely what happens when people who don't break down

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Speaker 1: the game for a living are exposed to you talking.

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Speaker 1: If you're smooth, you win over a public sentiment and

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Speaker 1: they write a lot of positive articles about you. I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you. Eli Drinkwitz is going to have the same

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Speaker 1: thing done with him, only he's a year in at Missouri.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of optimism. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people buying into Shane Beemer

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Speaker 1: after this week that weren't beforehand. Now, reality has nothing

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Speaker 1: changed about him, but we already bought into the culture

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Speaker 1: fit aspect, and I really hope it works out there.

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Speaker 1: I hope it works out because that's one of those

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Speaker 1: layers that exist in the college game that does not

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Speaker 1: exist in the pro game. You get fired from the Jets,

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Speaker 1: you can go coach the Chargers next week and it

532
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Speaker 1: would feel the same. It's a bubble. Every NFL market

533
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Speaker 1: is a bubble, and they all just feel the same.

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Speaker 1: It's all the same game in college. It's not maybe

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Speaker 1: becoming that way, but it's not yet. And so I'm

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Speaker 1: really pulling for Shane Beemer. Now, Patnar Doozy up at Pitt.

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Speaker 1: A lot of shout outs for Pitt tonight. I think

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Speaker 1: he's been hanging out with Dabos Swiney a little bit. Colin,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even tell you this. So Pat and our

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Speaker 1: Doozy steps to the podium. I know my audience pretty well.

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Speaker 1: I don't think many of you were glued to this

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Speaker 1: press conference. But you know there are two words we

543
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Speaker 1: have hated on this show with a white hot passion,

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Speaker 1: and that is who's in. And that is the marketing

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Speaker 1: slogan for a certain four letter network that owns the

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Speaker 1: college football playoff. And they have beaten you over the

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Speaker 1: head with it for the better part of a decade now,

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Speaker 1: much to the chagrin of myself and much at the

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Speaker 1: expense of the value of the regular season. We're talking

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Speaker 1: in August, commercial break. Who's in? We got a game

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Speaker 1: in week two? Commercial break. Let's take a look at

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Speaker 1: the updated playoff seatings. Ridiculous. Well, patnar Doozy is looking

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Speaker 1: around like most of us, and he understands the bowl

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Speaker 1: season has probably been irreparably damaged or irreparably given the

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Speaker 1: current state of affairs. But that doesn't mean it has

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Speaker 1: to be damaged forever. We just have to change the

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Speaker 1: state of affairs. Now. About three or four months ago,

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Speaker 1: I started advocating on this show for a revenue sharing

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Speaker 1: model in the bowl system. And what that would consist

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Speaker 1: of is based on the tier of the bowl. You

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Speaker 1: have a certain pool of money that we are going

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Speaker 1: to share with the participating players that play, that are

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Speaker 1: willing to play in the game. And so the first

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Speaker 1: thing I wanted was a predecided upon revenue sharing model.

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Speaker 1: This is exclusively for a bowl game, it's not for

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Speaker 1: the regular season. We have to draw a line. We

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Speaker 1: have to collectively understand that a bowl game is treated separately,

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Speaker 1: which I don't think would be a big problem now

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Speaker 1: that nil is in place too, and so the Bowl partner,

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Speaker 1: the media partner, the TV partner, the bowl game itself.

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Speaker 1: You raise enough money and you set it aside, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to dive up amongst the players who agree

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Speaker 1: to play in the game. However, you have to incentivize

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Speaker 1: winning too. This is not some exhibition, and so I'm

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Speaker 1: giving seventy five percent of that prize pool to the

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Speaker 1: winning team and twenty five percent to the losing team. Well,

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00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: lo and behold. Pat Ardozi is fully on board. I

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Speaker 1: don't have the full quote, but he talked about this

579
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Speaker 1: today and he said, we cannot put on paraphrasing the

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Speaker 1: toothpaste back in the tube. Of course, we would just

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Speaker 1: like to go back and try things a different way.

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Speaker 1: Let's not call bowl games meaningless some of us never did.

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Speaker 1: But let's not even institute that phrase into the college

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Speaker 1: football fornacular. But we can't go back. So how do

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Speaker 1: we fix it from this point moving forward? Well, the way,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, one of the only ways you fix

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00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: it is you've got to put money on the line.

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Speaker 1: You got to put some skin in the game. That's

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Speaker 1: the language we have taught college football players to speak.

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00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: That's the only one that matters now. Right, and so

591
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: you got to put some skin in the game. Now

592
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Speaker 1: you may not like it using two thousand and eight methodology,

593
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Speaker 1: but we're not in eight. We can change things if

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Speaker 1: we were in O eight, or we can make sure

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Speaker 1: things don't change. But we're in twenty twenty one. Things

596
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Speaker 1: have already changed. So we have to adjust to the

597
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Speaker 1: adjustment or get left behind. So I'm all for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I'm with paton Ardoozy, I'm with

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Speaker 1: Daboswiney good week for the synergy between Late Kick and

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Speaker 1: ACC head coaches. However, there is one head coach that

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Speaker 1: we've always had some synergy with, but he's not in

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Speaker 1: the ACC. He is, He's in, He's in the SEC

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Speaker 1: I have right now, keep in mind, I am on here, Colin.

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Speaker 1: We're live every Sunday and Thursday night. I have forty

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Speaker 1: six text messages since we went on the air. Are

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Speaker 1: those close friends, I'd ask you this, are those close

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Speaker 1: friends of mine because they know what I'm doing. Some

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Speaker 1: of them work here, by the way. They know what

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Speaker 1: I'm doing and they're texting me. It's like texting me

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Speaker 1: at eleven thirteen every Sunday morning. You know, good and

611
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: will I'm sitting in church and I'm using the Bible app.

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Speaker 1: I'm not texting you back right now, text me later,

613
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: text me when I get out, So you let me

614
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: know in the comment section. I mean, are those real

615
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: friends are I've got my thoughts on that, but I digress.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on. Nick Saban's role in college football is

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Speaker 1: fill in the blank for me? What is Nick Saban's

618
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Speaker 1: role in college football? I want to ask you two

619
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Speaker 1: questions about this guy, this guy Nick Saban? What is

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Speaker 1: his role? What do you think about him? What comes

621
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Speaker 1: to mind when you hear the name Nick Saban? And

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Speaker 1: this is like four questions? And also, how has it changed?

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Speaker 1: How has your opinion of Nick Saban changed over the

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Speaker 1: past ten years, maybe even over the past five years.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about Bama fans. I know how

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Speaker 1: you feel, and I may not be talking about Auburn fans,

627
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Speaker 1: but pretty much everywhere outside of that, there's been a shift.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of you have noticed it. I've

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Speaker 1: talked to several people about this, and everyone, when you

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Speaker 1: start talking about it, they say, yeah, I have noticed

631
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Speaker 1: that a little bit. So if you work in our business,

632
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Speaker 1: to give you a little behind the scenes. There are

633
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Speaker 1: some metrics that are kept. It applies to Oprah, it

634
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Speaker 1: applies to Bill Maher, it applies to Sean Hannity, it

635
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Speaker 1: applies to Nick Saban, any public figure, there are metrics kept,

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Speaker 1: and it's basically a recognizability rating. Now, different companies have

637
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Speaker 1: different names for them. So what they're essentially trying to

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Speaker 1: gauge is when we mention you to any random group

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Speaker 1: of five hundred people on the street, how many of

640
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: those people recognize you? And obviously, the bigger your profile,

641
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: they higher your recognizability rate. But there have been things

642
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: that have changed that should make it harder to be

643
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: more recognizable. The first thing that's changed, and just the

644
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: American entertainment landscape, is saturation. The other one is polarization.

645
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: If you were alive in nineteen seventy five, you can

646
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: tell the story about how many options you had for

647
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: entertainment versus what you have today. They have increased five

648
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: thousand fold. You have in the palm of your hand

649
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: if you have an iPhone, I have an eye, Josh,

650
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: But if you have one, you have more in the

651
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: palm of your hand than any TV set ever gave you.

652
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy five, and even if you had the phone,

653
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: it would have been useless in nineteen seventy five. Well,

654
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: the point is it was a lot bigger to raise

655
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: that recognizability score really quickly in nineteen seventy five because

656
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: there were far fewer options for people to go to

657
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: to seek out their entertainment. It is extremely hard to

658
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: go from scratch to go from zilch in today's entertainment landscape,

659
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: with as saturated as it is and as many options

660
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: as there are, to being a huge, widely recognized figure.

661
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: But he's done it. And the second thing is we

662
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: are in the most polarized period socially in the history

663
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: of our country. I think a lot of that has

664
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: to do with what social media and similar platforms have

665
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: given you, and that's the ability to really superficially debate.

666
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: By superficially, I mean these debates are never tangible in substance.

667
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: It's just it's window dressing, it's icing, it's very little cake.

668
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: But yet it still leads to a lot of people

669
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: disagreeing on stuff. And so if you say the sky's blue,

670
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: someone's going to say it's purple, because who are you

671
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: to define blue? And yet through all that Nick Saban,

672
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: in what is a polarized world in and of itself,

673
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: sports has raised his lickability rating as he wins a

674
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: bunch of titles. Now you tell me how that happens,

675
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: and that I think is the answer to the change,

676
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: and not only his stature in college football, but I

677
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: think his role in college football too, because he's done

678
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: the impossible. He's transcended all of those barriers that kind

679
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: of stand between someone and achieving mass recognizability outside of

680
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: his world and also increasing the likability in the process,

681
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: which is why I think he should run for public office.

682
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: By the way, So I want to ask you again

683
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: what is his role and what does he mean when

684
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: you hear the name, what does he mean? Because that

685
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: Q score has risen a lot. So I was reading

686
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: Cecil Hurt's work, who covers the Alabama Crimson tire for

687
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: the Tuscaloosa News and does it better than anyone has

688
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: ever done it, for my money, and he was writing

689
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: about SEC media days and he was talking about Saban,

690
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: and he said, Nick Saban gets treated totally different these days,

691
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: and has for a while by media, by fans, when

692
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: every other coach rolls into these media day settings, they're

693
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: asked about the left guard, they're asked about what do

694
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: you think about your chances at the playoff this year?

695
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: And they maybe ask some big picture, overarching type questions,

696
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: what do you think about the playoff? When Nick Saban

697
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: is in a public setting, they don't even ask him

698
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: about Alabama football anymore. They ask him about college football.

699
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: He is essentially treated as the president for lack of

700
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: a better term, of college football. He gives a state

701
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: of the union of the sport. And Cecil Hurt was

702
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: talking about this a lot because he covers him locally,

703
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: and so when they meet locally as the Assembled beat

704
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: in Tuscaloosa, sure they talk about the intricacies of the team,

705
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: but cecil Hurt pointed out, you know, he only mentioned

706
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: five of his players during the entire speaking portion of

707
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: SEC media days. Guys, they're replacing eight on offense alone.

708
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: Nick Saban mentioned five players total. That's how little the

709
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: Assembled media cared about Alabama football in relation to the

710
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: much bigger picture issues that are on the table. And

711
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: that was before the Oklahoma Texas stuff ever even bubbled up.

712
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: And so it's just it's fascinating to watch because I've

713
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: felt things shift on this. In the last five years,

714
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: I've watched Nick Saban in the way he's handled a

715
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: lot of things. I think a lot of other people have,

716
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people have seen the

717
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: way Nick Saban has handled some stuff. And even if

718
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: you don't root for Alabama, they've come to develop this

719
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: appreciation for the fact that Number One, you know you're

720
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: witnessing something truly generational, something that even if you can't

721
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: stand Bama football, you'll be able to tell your kids

722
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: about or grandkids about one day. I think that the

723
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: way they evolved on offense, plus what he told you

724
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: was coming offensively and what it was about to do

725
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: to college football, that validated what he said was going

726
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: to happen about the playoff, It validated his warning about

727
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: the transfer portal. It has validated early on. I think

728
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: what he says about Nio is going to validate the

729
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: way he's handled discipline in his program. I think is

730
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: a lot more respected now than once upon a time

731
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: when it was more misunderstood. I think when he went

732
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: off on that deal when they had the train transfer

733
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: from Georgia Jonathan Taylor, I believe it was and he

734
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: talked about MUSSI Muhammad and how he handled him at

735
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: Michigan State and what it means to give guys second chances,

736
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: and the difference between punishment and discipline that resonated that's

737
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: still today gets circulated. That is one of the best

738
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: recruiting tools that I have ever heard, and he really

739
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: didn't mean for it to be a recruiting tool. But

740
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: he's also shown adaptability, and I think he handled last

741
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: offseason in multiple ways as well as any head coach

742
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: on planet Earth. And so I think a lot of

743
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: people have gone from hating the dude cause he wins

744
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: a lot, to accepting that it doesn't matter how you

745
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: feel about him. He's going to win either way, so

746
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: you might as well appreciate it. And in some fan

747
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: bases out there, correctly, they look and they say, Okay,

748
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: he's the best of all time. We understand that Nick

749
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: Sabans do not grow on trees, but why can't we

750
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: be a little more emblematic of what they have at Alabama?

751
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: And that's made it uncomfortable. It's made it uncomfortable for

752
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 1: a lot of places to look and say, it's Tuscaloosa, Alabama.

753
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: This is not Beverly Hills. It's not like they just

754
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: have the ability to print money relative to us. We

755
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: have the finances, we can build immaculate facilities, we can

756
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: hire the coaching staff that you tell us you want.

757
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: It's just hard when you get measured to that. It's

758
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: really hard. But I think there's a lot of appreciation

759
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: that I don't think existed even five years ago. I

760
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: don't think it existed like it does right now. And

761
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: it's always interesting because I've been in those rooms. You

762
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: would be shocked if you sat in those rooms at

763
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: media days or you said in any kind of press availability.

764
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: When he walks in the room, everyone tightens, everyone shuts up.

765
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: There's some guys that have to walk up to the

766
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: microphone and say hello, Hello, we're ready to start, not

767
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: Nick Saban. And the other irony is in terms of

768
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: physical stature. Gonna be one of the smaller guys in

769
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: the room relative to other males, and yet he's the

770
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: biggest dude in the room too. It's always funny to watch.

771
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: I took a buddy one time who had a passing

772
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: interest in football, but didn't understand the magnitude of what

773
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: he was experiencing, and that's what gob smacked him the most.

774
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: Was the respect all these people have, these seasoned, grip

775
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: old veteran reporters. It's like the preacher has walked in

776
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: and they shut up. Church is about to start. That's

777
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: kind of the way it is when Nick Saban walks in.

778
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of other people share that now,

779
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: and I don't think they did very long ago. Okay,

780
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: it was a big day. It was a really big

781
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: day for a lot of whispers and rumors. It was

782
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: a very big day in the conference realignment rumor world.

783
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: But it was also a huge day here at twenty

784
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: four to seven Sports. Several major recruiting moves today and

785
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: we've had a bunch of commitments. But today was also

786
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: a rankings release day in retrospect. I bet they wish

787
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: they pushed it to Friday, but today was a big

788
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: day now, So I want you to pay attention calls.

789
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm going down this list really quickly. You cannot take

790
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: vacation anymore. You take your vacation time if you work

791
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: in our business and you just you just light it

792
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: on fire. Can't go anywhere, you can't afford to turn away. Look,

793
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: when has the off season? When has it happened? We

794
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: said it wasn't gonna happen in February. I didn't know

795
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: that we were speaking it into actual existence. I was

796
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: just telling you we on this show were not going

797
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: to take one. But it turns out no one took one.

798
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: Got several major commits today. So let me run down

799
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: this list just since this morning. Here's what's happened. Branson

800
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Robinson has committed to Georgia. That's a four star running back.

801
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: He is out of Mississippi. This is the sixth verbal

802
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: commitment for Georgia in this class, and that gives them

803
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: twelve commits right now. The important thing to pay attention

804
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: to with a program like Georgia is it puts him

805
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: at point ninety three to six average player rating, which

806
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: means if they continue on that trajectory, that's going to

807
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: be a slam dunk top five class. Which is funny

808
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: because in the inbox, the old late kick inbox. Over

809
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: the past week, I've had people asking me what's wrong

810
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: with Georgia recruiting? Answer, probably not much. I know what

811
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: the talking points are, Probably not much. How about Danny

812
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: Dennis Sutton to Penn State. Penn State has been rolling

813
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: in July, unlike any other program This is their ninth

814
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: verbal commitment in the month of July. The Nitney Lions

815
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: are ranked number two in the country right now for

816
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: the twenty four to seven Sports Team rankings. That's a

817
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: four star defensive lineman. That's the highest rated commit in

818
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: this cycle for James Franklin. And this comes off the

819
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: heels of them picking up two big time running backs

820
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: and Penn State's at what are they at twenty one

821
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: commitments right now, and they got the number two class

822
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: in the country, so they're not quite done. But this

823
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: is a big time player now. I was reading our

824
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: scouting report. I don't have time to detail it because

825
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: we have several other guys to get to, but that

826
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: is one to be very excited about if you're a

827
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: Penn State fan. O'marion Hampton also commits today. He goes

828
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: to North Carolina. This is a four star running back

829
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: six foot two hundred and fifteen pound range. That is

830
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: North Carolina's eleventh commit Dayalen Everett. You know, there were

831
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: a lot of folks talking will they be able to

832
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: land him? They didn't. Clemson wins out, but they have

833
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: dusted themselves off quite nicely here. So North Carolina is

834
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: on the climb. They have not I think hit stride

835
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: in this class quite yet. They will finish I think

836
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: inside the top fifteen. I think they're just outside the

837
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: top twenty. Now, okay, those are the guys who committed today.

838
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: But as I said, it was rankings release day, and

839
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: there are some huge movers. Always the first thing that

840
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: you want to look at when we update our player

841
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: rankings at twenty four to seven sports is you want

842
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: to go see who moved where. Well, you can either

843
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: manually look back over the last class and say, uh, okay,

844
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: he was rated there and now he's rated here, or

845
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: you can just listen to what I'm about to tell you,

846
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: because these are some of the biggest movers. Four star

847
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: Isaiah Bond. He's an athlete. He's already committed to Florida.

848
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: He jumps from two thirty seven to one forty nine.

849
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: He's out of Buford, Georgia. Again, let me emphasize a

850
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: Florida commit. He's a track guy. He's a two way player.

851
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: Talk to a lot of our guys, I mean, they

852
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Speaker 1: honestly think Florida could play him either way. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they've gone a long way down the road of discussing

854
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: with him which side of the ball he's going to

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00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: play on. But Isaiah Bond jumps to number one forty nine,

856
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: four star corner currently committed to Texas A and M.

857
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: Bobby Taylor goes from two fourteen to one point fifty. Again,

858
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: these are very big jumps. He's an A and M commit.

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00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: Our guys love his size. This is a corner six'

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00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: one point. Eighty they call that prototype, size that's what

861
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: they call. That and he was at The Opening, invitational,

862
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: okay and he blew up The Opening. Invitational and you're

863
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: gonna notice a common theme with a lot of these

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00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: big risers is we did not have camps for a

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Speaker 1: year and now a lot of guys are getting out

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00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: in these camp settings and they're getting eyeballs on them

867
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Speaker 1: for the first time since they were freshmen or in this, case,

868
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: sophomore and you're just you're just seeing different. GUYS i

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00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: can guarantee You Bobby taylor what in six one point

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00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: eighty last time our guys saw. Him so he jumps

871
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: very nicely up into the top one. Fifty what about

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00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: four star wide Receiver Keon. Graves it is one OF

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00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: i can't do the math that. Quickly this is one

874
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: of the biggest jumps we've seen from number one hundred

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00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: and eleven to forty. Seven he's An Ohio state Commit Opening,

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00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: invitational just Like Bobby taylor shined at The Opening, invitational

877
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: and that's the kind of jump you can see when

878
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: you really tear up those. Camps great. Separation but also

879
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: there's a word that a lot of our guys use

880
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: when they're talking about, him him being ke on grives

881
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: our graves that they don't use with a lot of

882
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: receivers at the high school, level and that is, technician

883
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: especially when they're superior. Athletes very few have that blend

884
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: because they've gotten away on athleticism at the high school.

885
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: Level but he has elite ball, skills really good, separation

886
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: but he's a. Technician probably has a lot to do

887
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: with why he just jumped, firmly not only into the

888
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: top one, hundred but into the top. Fifty we continue

889
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: for star defensive Linemen Grayson, Halton oregon commit here From Southern,

890
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: California San. Diego to be, exact he goes from two

891
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: thirty five to one seventy. Two that's an athletic big.

892
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: Man you can never have too many of, Them and

893
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: especially At, oregon they're starting to stack those, linebackers those defensive,

894
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: Linemen they're starting to stack those. Guys and what you

895
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: think about With oregon when you start seeing those big

896
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: athletic body type defensive linemen go, There i'm not just

897
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: thinking about that's what they need to Beat, washington that's

898
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: what they need to Beat Southern. Cal both of these

899
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: things are. True but if You're, oregon you're thinking about

900
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: how you fare and how you match up Against Ohio,

901
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: state not just this, year but in years to. Come

902
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: how do you match up With clemson if you get

903
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: on the field with. Them, well the only way to

904
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: find out and to be anywhere close to being in

905
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: the same neighborhood as those programs is to have players

906
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: Like Grayson. Halton you've got to have a lot of,

907
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: them but you've got to have big, bodied athletic guys

908
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: and you have to be able to roll them out

909
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: there in, waves because that's what they're going to do against.

910
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: You we continue four star defensive van outside, linebacker kind

911
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: of an edge type, Player Jehad. Campbell he goes from

912
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: ninety two to. Thirty this could end up being a

913
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: five star. Guy he's committed To clemson right. Now our

914
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: guys think he'll probably play in the six four two

915
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: twenty five to two thirty. Range very, long extremely, athletic

916
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: doesn't give up one to get the. Other and he

917
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: popped in THE Img Spring. Game we have talked a

918
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: lot ABOUT Img academy over the past week. Now campbell

919
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: was already committed before last, weekend but he plays down

920
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: there with a lot of those other big names Like

921
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: kean Sab Dalen everett for. Instance those two just committed

922
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: To clems and this is pipeline city right now for The.

923
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: Tigers So Jahad campbell jumps fro ninety two to thirty

924
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: and the last ONE i wanted to touch. On this

925
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: is one to keep a close eye on BECAUSE i

926
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: this is me, talking not our recruit. STAFF i don't

927
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,479
Speaker 1: think the climb with this guy is quite done. Yet

928
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: four star Quarterback Devin, brown he was outside the top

929
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven or top two four to seven

930
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: and he goes to one. Eighty he's A usc, commit

931
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: and a lot was made about you, Know Malachi, nelson

932
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: who's a twenty twenty three guy leaving Southern california to

933
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: go To. Oklahoma BUT usc did a really good job

934
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: recruiting quarterback last cycle and this is coming up in this,

935
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: cycle so they are not hurting at the quarterback position AT.

936
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: Usc it's more a matter of principle WHEN i talk

937
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: about watching those big time talents Leave Southern. California but

938
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: he's a big mover because he shined At elite eleven

939
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: and LIKE i, SAID i don't think he's done. Climbing

940
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: that's my personal feel on. That and So Devin brown

941
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: goes all the way up to number one. Eighty you

942
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: can see an article with all of these updates on

943
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: the front page of twenty four seven sports dot com right.

944
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: Now our staff, man they were waiting for a long

945
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: time to get back out on the. Road now they're

946
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: finally back out on the. Road and so you got

947
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: A Will fong and company pumping out article after article after.

948
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: ARTICLE i think you can tell that we have long

949
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: since shifted into regular season mode around, here and in

950
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: the coming two, weeks two to three Weeks august, THIRD i,

951
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: think tentatively is what we have circle to go to

952
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: the three show a week, format so we'll Be, Sunday,

953
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: tuesday And Thursday Night. LIVE i talked to some on

954
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: the podcast this, morning And i'm not going to do

955
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: it a whole lot now, here BUT i talked someone

956
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: this morning's podcast about why we structure things the way we,

957
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: do why we handle the show the way we. Do

958
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: SO i would appreciate if you went and listen to,

959
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: that if you're. Curious BUT i just wanted to again

960
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: reiterate there are a lot of things positive happening for

961
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: our show right, now many of which you're about to

962
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: see in the coming, weeks that are because of, you

963
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: and so we appreciate. It because there are a lot

964
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: of things we always wanted to do but we didn't

965
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: know we were going to be able to do That

966
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: we're not going to be able to do because of,

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00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: You so you'll love. IT i, mean it's all really

968
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: geared towards giving you what you. Want but thank you so.

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00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: Much so make sure you are subscribed to this. Channel

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00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: if you're watching on, YouTube make sure you are. Subscribed

971
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: in giving five star reviews on that, PODCAST i didn't

972
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: tell you, this did you? Know our, podcast which wasn't

973
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: even a priority when we started the, show has climbed

974
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Speaker 1: into the top ten in the, nation in the world for.

975
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Speaker 1: FOOTBALL i think that's pretty. Good i'm not going to

976
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: pat myself on the, back but you guys should because

977
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: you've done that in those five star. REVIEWS i think

978
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: you have helped a. Lot BUT i told you our

979
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: listenership is really hockey. Sticking so thank you for all

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00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: Of it's WHAT i want to say. NOW i want

981
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Speaker 1: to get out of here BECAUSE i actually want to

982
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: have a voice For Sunday. Night so for Director, colin

983
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: for our entire crew doing a great. Job den In Fort,

984
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Speaker 1: Lauderdale I'm Josh. Pate thanks so much for Watching TikTok TikTok.

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Speaker 1: TikTok we're almost. THERE i have a great start your,

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Speaker 1: weekend And god bless