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Speaker 1: Why weren't the Patriots a better option for him? When

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Speaker 1: both Robert Kraft and Brady himself said over and over

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Speaker 1: how much they wanted him to finish his career Here,

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Speaker 1: hosted by Dan Patrick, joined by the Four Dan Netts.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go back and rehash all that we've

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Speaker 1: talked about that. Really, you've never talked about it five

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Speaker 1: the Patriots was never what he asks for the Breeze contract.

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Speaker 1: of the Day, stat of the Day poll question all

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Speaker 1: to that forthcoming. We haven't against the grain. Five reasons

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Speaker 1: you should watch tonight's game between the Bengals and the Jags.

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Speaker 1: And the last time we saw Joe Burrow and Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence facing off was the National title game in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: The two quarterbacks number one overall picks find themselves in

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Speaker 1: very different situations right now, because Burrow's LSU Tigers were

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Speaker 1: one of the more talented teams in college football history

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Speaker 1: and Lawrence was on a perennial contender in Clemson. Now,

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Speaker 1: as a result being the number one picks, you're part

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Speaker 1: of two struggling franchises. That's how you end up as

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Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. They square off tonight Lawrence's

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Speaker 1: Jags visit Joe Burrow and the Bengals, and the game

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Speaker 1: actually feels a little more important than it probably should

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Speaker 1: because the Jags in danger of falling to oh and four.

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Speaker 1: That's more losses than Lawrence had in his entire career,

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Speaker 1: an unprecedented losing streak for head coach Urban Meyer. On

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Speaker 1: the flip side, the Bengals can improve to three and one,

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Speaker 1: and there's some cautious optimism in Cincinnati for my Bengals.

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Speaker 1: But opinions change from week to week. Get ready for

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Speaker 1: some sweeping opinions on the last two number one overall

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Speaker 1: Thursday night matchup because it's a standalone game. When you

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Speaker 1: have that standalone game, everybody wants to talk about that team.

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Speaker 1: The next day. So Friday is going to be about

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Speaker 1: a referendum on the Bengals or the Jags or both

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Speaker 1: and these quarterbacks and Urban Meyer. That's what happens with

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Speaker 1: the standalone game. Now, this was a one o'clock game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, people would not be talking about it on Monday.

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Speaker 1: But Thursday night, get ready for a healthy dose of

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. Trevor Lawrence and Joe Burrow say good morning

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Speaker 1: kind of poll question do we have to say? So?

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Speaker 1: Since it's negative, this is a Pauly special which wait wait,

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Speaker 1: why does it have to be negative? It's more fun

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Speaker 1: NFL team feels like it's in the worst shape right now.

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Speaker 1: Like the Steelers are generally good franchise, but this week,

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Speaker 1: the negative Steelers slash Ben Roethlisberger talk has been rampant.

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Speaker 1: It feels like the Steelers are in disarray and are terrible?

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Speaker 1: Are they? No, because you still have some quality players

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Speaker 1: but you still have some quality players there. Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: That's the reason why they feel a little wonky. The Jets,

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Speaker 1: it just feels like it's the same story every single year. Hey,

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Speaker 1: the color of that green. The Jags too early to

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Speaker 1: or the Lions. Is there another team to put in here?

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Speaker 1: I save this one the Bears. They stink, Their quarterback

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Speaker 1: situations a mess, their coaches an indecisive, and their teams

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Speaker 1: about to move to the suburbs. That's a tough week.

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Speaker 1: Moving to the suburbs doesn't bother me as much because

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Speaker 1: I'm not a Chicago native. But do I think that

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Speaker 1: team is rutterless lost? Yes? I do. Now, you got

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. You had a pretty good defense. You know,

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Speaker 1: the shadow of the Packers. But you're not even naming

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Speaker 1: you're playing the Lions, are you? Is Matt Naggie trying

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Speaker 1: give the Lions any edge here. We're gonna We're gonna

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Speaker 1: for this potent offense. Whether it's justin Fields or Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: Matt Naggie's gonna get fired. The owners of the Bears,

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Speaker 1: the McCaskey family, they don't fire you during the season.

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Speaker 1: The fans probably want that. They also want justin fields?

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Speaker 1: How is it these offensive geniuses Matt Naggie Andrew Gays, Like, okay,

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Speaker 1: supposed to be a great play caller. Yeah. We had

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Speaker 1: forty seven total yards of offense. If I'm justin Fields,

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Speaker 1: If you don't have a good offensive line, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: off season. They don't have anybody, And Carson Palmer talked

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Speaker 1: You know, your receivers. Alan Robinson's a nice player, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you have here? It just feels

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Speaker 1: some kind of direction. It's like the compass is pointing north,

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Speaker 1: at least in the NFL. See north. Here here's Matt Nagee.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if you played for this coach and you hear this,

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Speaker 1: like you want that decisive, authoritative voice on what's happening

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Speaker 1: at your quarterbacking position. Here's Matt Nagee. We expect both

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Speaker 1: In regards to the depth chart with with them, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that question will come. And he's the one. Justin's

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Speaker 1: the two and Nick as the three. Starter of he

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Speaker 1: want it? Well? He has his reasons, I'm sure of

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields in there. Now, do I think that he

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Speaker 1: did a disservice to Justin Fields. I do, because you know,

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields is a rookie and he's trying to do

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Speaker 1: too much. But I mean, you got a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: MVP and Nick Foles. He's thirty two years of age,

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Speaker 1: but if you're Nick Foles, do you want the Nile?

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to put myself out there. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get traded at some point during the season.

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Speaker 1: It feels like there'll be a situation where you go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, if something happened to Taylor Heineke with Washington,

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Speaker 1: then you could trade Nick Foles there. I still don't

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Speaker 1: But hey, what do I know about football? Yeah, mcle

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Speaker 1: the Bears have had a rough row. They started at

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Speaker 1: I don't know any quarterbacks in the NFL who are

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Speaker 1: gonna look great in those two games. It's got to

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Speaker 1: get a little better. But why are you putting your

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Speaker 1: any sense at all. I'm not sure they had any choice.

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Speaker 1: What about three months of Justin Fields fits his team

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Speaker 1: batter the line is bad and he can run every

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Speaker 1: single medium member. I heard it maybe fifty five thousand times,

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Speaker 1: all these pass rushers. How about you just have him

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Speaker 1: make short passes and then he doesn't have to run

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Speaker 1: the defense always catches the quarterback. At some point they

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Speaker 1: catch you. And Justin Fields can be athletic. There's a

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Speaker 1: guy who's a four or four. Guy on the other side,

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Speaker 1: he can be a four or five. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson miss practice again yesterday. This is what happens

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Speaker 1: with the mobile quarterback. Tom Brady survived because he stands

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Speaker 1: behind his offensive line gets the ball out quickly. That

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Speaker 1: My philosophy with the Bears would be, let's just kind

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Speaker 1: trust in doctors, but we at the same time we

425
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Speaker 1: have to just sobvously follow the science and make sure

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Speaker 1: that we be advocates and fight for our children and

427
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: make sure that they test for everything, especially when you're

428
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what is wrong as your child.

429
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Speaker 1: It's spelled libre l I b r E A freestyle

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Speaker 1: libre too. We're talking to ray Al in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer. Last time I had you on, you were

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Speaker 1: in studio and I I tried to correct your shot

433
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: and I felt bad about it. I'm not going to apologize, though,

434
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Speaker 1: ray but I got the first I really yeah, no no.

435
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: Over the course of my career, you get new coaches

436
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: to come in and they're like, well, why don't you

437
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: try this, And I'm like, well, I made the All

438
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: Star team a couple of times. It's been working for

439
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: me thus hard. So I'm just gonna ride this thing out.

440
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: I just remember, because I was always taught that you

441
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: had the ball on your fingertips, you had the ball

442
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: in the palm of your hand. No, I never had

443
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: the ball in palm in my hand. I remember I

444
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: got I got big hands. So because this is what

445
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: I stressed to my guys all day long, like just

446
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: supposed to be spacing here. It's got to be in

447
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Speaker 1: your fingertips. And you don't want me to go to

448
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: the videotape, Ray, because you gotta go to the videotape.

449
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: I was right there. I was right there. I was,

450
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, a foot away from your right hand. I said, Ray,

451
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: it's on yours, on your palm, PM your hand. No,

452
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Speaker 1: I never put that. I can't see with the ball

453
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Speaker 1: in palm. That's what I tell you know, all the

454
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: other great shooters that I come in contact with. But yeah,

455
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: it could you help Ben Simmon? How would you help

456
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 1: Ben Simmon? Well, yeah, I definitely could help them. The

457
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: one you people think about shooting is some talent that

458
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Speaker 1: that you know, some of the best that's ever done

459
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: it has, But it's just really just getting in there

460
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: and you know, in your mind you have to think

461
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: about the game. You have to think about you know, visualizing,

462
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: you know what it is that you want to do,

463
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: what you foresee in your free throws. So you have

464
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: to have a mindset to think about these things and

465
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Speaker 1: then kind of absorb it and then do it. And

466
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: so you know, having to write conversations first and foremost

467
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: is important for him and anybody struggles with shooting. And

468
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: then it's like we have the saying like if you

469
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Speaker 1: have a full cup when you walk into a crowd,

470
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: somebody tries to purce something in your cup, you can't

471
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: receive anything more because you're already filled. So he's got

472
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: to come to the table with an empty cup and

473
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: be willing to take all this information, you know, for

474
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: whatever he's thought about shooting, kind of strip away and

475
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: break all it down and kind of rebuild back up.

476
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: Because you know, one thing, it's you know, how you

477
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: hold the ball in your hands. It's got to be

478
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: in your fingertips, so you don't have a push shot,

479
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: and you have to shoot shots that you know you're

480
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: going to be tested on in a game. You know,

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00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about a fourth quarter scenario with somebody

482
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: running out at you, how is that lift on your

483
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: jump shot gonna look what that what is that release

484
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Speaker 1: going to look like? And that's what you have to

485
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: practice when you're in the gym by yourself, because you know,

486
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: far too often when I walk in the gym, I

487
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: see kids just up there just shooting with their upper body.

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Speaker 1: And then it doesn't stand when you come into a

489
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Speaker 1: game situation because now you have to measure a different

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Speaker 1: release point. And so you know, with been a lot

491
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Speaker 1: of people are running out out at him and they're

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Speaker 1: testing him to make that shot. So that was that

493
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Speaker 1: is where I would put him in in a gym environment,

494
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: a work situation and have him shoot under the rest.

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Speaker 1: But would you mess with his form? I don't think

496
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Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with his form. And what you have

497
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: to remember, you know, one of the greatest shooters I've

498
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Speaker 1: ever seen in Reggie Miller. You know, he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: form that was taught, you know, by any means. When

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00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: I first got into the league, I thought to myself,

501
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: I was like, well, it doesn't have to be perfect.

502
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: You just have to know what it is that you're

503
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Speaker 1: working with. So with Ben, you know, it's not a

504
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: form thing. It's about explaining to him what it is

505
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: that he's doing when he's missing and where he wants

506
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: his energy to come from, like he's got to flow

507
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Speaker 1: through it. He's a big guy like when he shoots

508
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: and he extends, like shooting comes from your feet all

509
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: way through your body, and then as you release the

510
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: ball at your fingertips, it's not just the heave here,

511
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 1: it's it's all one motion. So that's why for some

512
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: of the best shooters in the world and those that

513
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: make it look so easy, that's why it just looks

514
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: like a fit flick because you're using the motion from

515
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: from your toes alway through your fingertips. Can you step

516
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: back just a little bit on camera and show the

517
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: audience what you mean when you're saying because a lot

518
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: of people, you know, you just practice the jumper up

519
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: here up top and what you're saying, Like Trey Young

520
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: and Steph Curry aren't big guys, but there they utilize

521
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: their legs so well. So can you stand up and

522
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: just show us what Like where you're if you're watching

523
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: on radio or listening on radio, we apologize, so all right,

524
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: So show me what you mean. So you know, when

525
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: you look at step step and Trade, they do have

526
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: more of a push shot. So when you when you

527
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: come down, even my shot, I come from here and

528
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: then I go up and my motion pushes me and

529
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: pulls me and I shoot the ball and release, so

530
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: it's just a flick. So when you see guys coming

531
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: to transition as they run and then they stop, you

532
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: see a lot of people kill their their their energy

533
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: or the motion and they just push right here. So

534
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: what I want to get guys to understand is when

535
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: they run and then they take off, don't let that energy,

536
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: that inertia die at your feet, at your lower body

537
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: and where they just start pushing with their body. And

538
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: it's important. And I'm also wondering about this ray. It

539
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: feels like you're seeing shooters maybe down a little bit lower,

540
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: whereas we were taught to be a little bit higher

541
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: with the release point. These longer shots, it feels like

542
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: these guys, yeah, they're starting down at their chests. Like,

543
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: are you teaching that to your kids? Well, one of

544
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: the things is fascinating. Even with my son Walker, this

545
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: is where his shot is and his release is so

546
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: low because you have to remember, for them, the ball

547
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: is bigger, so they have to use more muscle and

548
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: more of their body to get the ball up and

549
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: they're not in their wrists with the shots. So it's

550
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: super important to kind of gaze. That's why everybody you know,

551
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I put videos and my son's up when I'm working

552
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: them out over the summer. And you know, the younger ones,

553
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't message their jump shot because they'll get on

554
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: the trampoline because they have a hoop on their trampoline

555
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: or a small ball and they'll shoot it just like

556
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: this and perfect form, rotation, everything. But when they get

557
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: the big ball, they have to push it from here

558
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: because they don't have the strength. And then what happens

559
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: is is the kid gets older, this is where their

560
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: release is because they haven't evolved and you know, reconstructed.

561
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: Where their jump shot is just where they're comfortable. So

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00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: that's what I think happens with a lot of kids

563
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: and they're jump shooting, is that they shoot one way

564
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: when they're younger to get the ball up and they

565
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: heave it and they never change or get to their

566
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: somewhat teenage years to their adult bodies where they're shooting

567
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: the shot that is conducive to them being now strong enough.

568
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,239
Speaker 1: So I tell all the kids I'm in the gym

569
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: with us, a listen, you're not in middle school anymore.

570
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: You have the strength in your wrists. And what I

571
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: do is I'll put them on their knees on the court,

572
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: and I'll have them first wi walking the gym with

573
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: the ball in your fingertips underneath the basket, and you

574
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: just I let them see that this is all you need.

575
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: And then then I'll let them get on their knees

576
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: on the floor and then shoot from there, and then

577
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: just let them work on that right there, because this

578
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: is all you need right here. If you're using your body,

579
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: this is it's not a heat. You see a lot

580
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: of people using their shoulders and their lower body to

581
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: try to get the ball up there, and that's where

582
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: form goes bad. And then if you take that bad form,

583
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 1: that's why a lot of people end up not being

584
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: able to shoot. Hey, the Lakers are taking these old guys.

585
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: You know, you think do you think you could give Lebron,

586
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, ten minutes a game? Yeah? I could give them.

587
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: I can give them twenty minutes game. The problem is

588
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: that next day I'm gonna be struggled a little bit.

589
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: It's the recovery that gets you. Aren't anything? That's all right?

590
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: No no back to backs for you, right? Yeah? No

591
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: back to back? You know it's great now because I

592
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: don't know if you know this but I started coaching.

593
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm the head coach now Gliver Prep down here in Miami,

594
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: and so now I get to work with these kids

595
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: every single day and you know, get them to see

596
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: and understand, you know, their their best potential because you know, physically,

597
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: I'll get on the court with them and run up

598
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: and down and try and get them to you know,

599
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 1: be better than they were yesterday. And you know, if

600
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: they go to college or not, if they end up

601
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: once their pros or not, whatever they be, it's got

602
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: to be you know, high school sports has to be

603
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: a great experience for our kids. You know, when you're

604
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: thinking about the drafts and international players around the world,

605
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: they get drafted, and we got to make sure that

606
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: we made these experiences for kids in high school a

607
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: special experience and not ruined by parents or administrations, but

608
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: just special for them that when they go there, they

609
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: feel like, man, I had a great time playing on

610
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: that team. When the last time you went into a

611
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: room and you weren't the best shooter in the room, Well,

612
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: it's always arguable. It's been a while, but listen, I

613
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: played in a golf tournament last week with Steph and

614
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: Dell Curry. Yeah, so you know, depending on who you're asking.

615
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: You know that There's Dale was one of my favorite shooters,

616
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 1: you know, all the time, favorites and great So it

617
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: is we we had this conversation all the time with

618
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: buddies of mine. We always talk about the greatest. And

619
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: we were actually having this conversation about comedians last night

620
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: and they were trying to say who the best comedian

621
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: of all time wasn't And somebody said, do you like

622
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Richard pryor Eddie Murphy? And I said, we don't get

623
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy without Richard Pryor. And so it's important that

624
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: we understand that a lot of who we try to compare,

625
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: like the next generators that comes along, we don't get

626
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: without that that previous player, you know, And that is

627
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: something you know, all of us have Jordan DNA and us.

628
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: We have doctor j and Magic DNA and us. So

629
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: to try to say we're better or comparable any one

630
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: of them is like blasphemy. Well, you don't have Trey

631
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: Young without Steph Curry, but you don't have Steph Curry

632
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: without you. Yeah, and it just always it's a cycle.

633
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: But it's almost like we're just so focused on trying

634
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: to say who's better, But it's just everybody has their

635
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: own purposes and that to me is what's special and

636
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: great about sports. The partnership is with Abbott and the

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Speaker 1: maker of freestyle Libray to Ray, it's great to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. Hope Walker does well and good luck coach

639
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Speaker 1: in high school. Yeah, thank then, good seeing you take

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Speaker 1: care of that state up there for me and nose

641
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Speaker 1: getting cold. You don't miss it at all, you know, No,

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Speaker 1: old miss Head Coach. He'll be in Tuscaloosa this weekend

648
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: against Alabama. You know, before I talk about that matchup, coach,

649
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Speaker 1: I saw where Michael Wilbon said something I pardon the interruption,

650
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: where he was calling you out saying you hadn't done anything,

651
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: called you a clown, and you did respond to him

652
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Speaker 1: a little bit. So where did this come from? What

653
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 1: happened with you and Michael Wilbon? Yeah, it's interesting forgot,

654
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Speaker 1: I've never met so someone sent it to me. I

655
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: thought it was kind of like I was like, wow,

656
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: that was pretty aggressive. I thought, you know, that was

657
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: kind of more like a chat room or a you know,

658
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: a Tennessee fan or something like that. You know, it's

659
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: not a national media member. So and then people are like,

660
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Speaker 1: did you do something wrong with this guy? I was like,

661
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: I never met him, so whatever. You know, I'm sure

662
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: it preased his ratings or something. But but do you

663
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: engage with people who are critical of whatever you've done?

664
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Speaker 1: I mean, how often does this happen? I know Michael

665
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: was on Pardon the interruption, but how often do you

666
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: engage back and forth? I usually don't. I just said

667
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: something on Twitter just because it was so aggressive, just

668
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: to kind of you know, I've in in a Twitter

669
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: mood here in the last two years, and our people

670
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: love it, our recruits love it. So um, I just

671
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: sense setting off? Um do you want that? Why is

672
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: game day not going to be at your game with Alabama?

673
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I thought they wouldn't, but you know,

674
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: going to Athens, But what do they expect is going

675
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: to happen in Athens? Or what did they expect was

676
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: going to happen in Tuscaloosa. I don't know. I don't

677
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: know how that works. Maybe they've been to Tuscaloosa a

678
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: million times and I didn't want to go back or something.

679
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I love the fact that you were

680
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: telling people stop upsetting Nick Sampon, like, don't say these things.

681
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: You know, like you know he's got issues with his team.

682
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Speaker 1: How good is that team? Of the recent teams that

683
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Speaker 1: Nick has had, it's great. And like I said, you know,

684
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: cherry picking didn't mean a negative thing. It just meant, okay, hey,

685
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Speaker 1: go Tech, take the best people you know that are

686
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: out there and film like free agency in the NFL,

687
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: and you know, it is a crazy setup because they

688
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: basically picked first with all the five stars in the draft,

689
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: and now they got free agency on top of it

690
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Speaker 1: to go grab a great receiver or a great middle linebacker.

691
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Speaker 1: You know, if you have a small hole. So now

692
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: maybe we're at times over the years or was one

693
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: or two holes there and now there's nothing, But do

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Speaker 1: you think you played a role or how much of

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Speaker 1: a role that you It felt like open Nick's eyes

696
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: to a whole different offense here. Now they're getting that quarterback,

697
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: they're getting those wide receivers, whereas they used to just

698
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: get offensive linemen and running backs. Yeah, I do think

699
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Speaker 1: that It's not I've been open to his eyes. I

700
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: just think our success in going faster and having bigger

701
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: stats offensively, well, I mean, I know what it was

702
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: like recruiting against them. You know, at Tennessee or USC

703
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: you know you are going to get a defensive player

704
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: away from him for the most part, you weren't going

705
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: to get like you said of linemen running back, but

706
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: you know, quarterbacks and receivers. You know you could say, Okay,

707
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: you're going to go there and be a game manager.

708
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: You know you're not gonna have many catches. Julio Jones,

709
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Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all times, had like seventy

710
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: or something, you know. And so then when we go

711
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: there and Marii Cooper has one hundred and twenty eight,

712
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: you know that that really changes how you can not

713
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Speaker 1: just recruit local but nationally. And then you see Nigi

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Speaker 1: Harris come from California and and Ta you know, come

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Speaker 1: from Hawaii, and you know, I think it just opened

716
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: up a pipeline that now I got to deal with

717
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: it here here at Old Miss and play him here.

718
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: Bryce Young from California. How much film do you watch

719
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: of Alabama? A lot defensive side, a little bit offensively,

720
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: but you know you can't, can't do all of it, Um,

721
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: but we watch a lot of it. We know defensively

722
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: what they usually do. They don't change a ton, So

723
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, we watch a lot. But what do you

724
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: tell your quarterback? What do you tell Matt Um? You know,

725
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: nothing different than any other any other game that we play.

726
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: You know, you got reads, you got to take care

727
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: of the ball. You know, this game different than most games.

728
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: You just got eunique players everywhere, thirty one the defensive end.

729
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: I bet when Albery is eligible a year from now,

730
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: you know it'll be the first pick of the draft.

731
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: Type of guy. So you know you don't have very

732
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Speaker 1: long with the ball. The windows are really tight. You know,

733
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: it's more like an NFL game. You know, that's what

734
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: it looks like when you're watching them, like obviously NFL players,

735
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: but in the NFL there may be a hole in

736
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Speaker 1: the closes really quick. You know, you don't have a

737
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: lot of explosive plays, Um, and that that's what it's like.

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Speaker 1: Who does your quarterback remind you of? I mean, I'm

739
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Speaker 1: gonna say to this, and he's not Patrick Mahomes, but

740
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Speaker 1: the release points in the arm angles of the ability

741
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Speaker 1: to throw what the world can't? You know, it's really special.

742
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: When did you know you had something special? Well, we

743
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: didn't have a spring with him. We had to like

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00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: some workouts and just seem throw them the deep all

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Speaker 1: right away. I said, I didn't know how well he

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Speaker 1: could think, how well he could move at the time,

747
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: but I knew the guy had in the arm strength

748
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: and so to do what he did last fall, and

749
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: you know, most yards I think in the country without

750
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: a spring in the new system, you know, says a

751
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: lot about him tucking Lane Kiff and the old miss

752
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: head coach. He's got Alabama coming up on Saturday, then

753
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: you host Arkansas, then you're at Auburn. What was it

754
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 1: like when you couldn't coach your team against Louisville in Atlanta?

755
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: What are you allowed to contribute on game day? Yeah,

756
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: you can't once it starts. You know. I was in

757
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: every zoom, every meeting, you know, even the pregame meal,

758
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, via zing that stuff. But once it started,

759
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: you are not allowed, which really doesn't make a whole

760
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Why can't you be in a press box,

761
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: you know, but you can't be on a headset, you know,

762
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: talking to them when you have COVID. But it is

763
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: what the rules are. How bad was it? It was

764
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: painful as you're watching TV and it's delayed a few

765
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: seconds and you know you're just not control, which is

766
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: very hard for head coaches. You had no control. No,

767
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: I meant the illness. Oh I got you. I thought

768
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: the start with, I had like two bad days, but

769
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: that was about it. Um. You know, I'd been vaccinated,

770
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: which I think helped a lot. And then whatever that

771
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: ivy thing they put in you, some some long name

772
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: that I can't remember, that helped a lot. How much

773
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: NFL do you watch now? I don't really any You

774
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: just I don't know how you can as a coach.

775
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: You know, you're just every Sunday you're in here getting

776
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: ready for the next opponent. Yeah, but I just wonder

777
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: are you And you've talked about this before, we've talked

778
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: about this that the NFL is taking from college, not

779
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: the other way around. But can you see things? So

780
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: there was nothing you could see on a on a

781
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: Sunday in the NFL that you could say that's applicable

782
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: to my team, or I could my quarterback or my

783
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: coaching staff. It's backwards now, you know, like we've discussed,

784
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: we used to do that. We used to have our

785
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: guys cut up, you know, hey, cut up these different

786
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: routes and these different things, you know, from the Chiefs

787
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: or whatever the hot team was, and you know we

788
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: do it a little bit in the off season, but

789
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: not like used to all. It's really backwards there. There

790
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: are a couple of years behind us, and you watched

791
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. You actually they're they're now running the plays

792
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: we were three or four years ago. Do you have

793
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: a scripted answer? So when you're asked about would you

794
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: be interested in USC? Like, dude, get together with the

795
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: sports information director or PR people and say, all right,

796
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: let's let's just come up with a nice paragraph here.

797
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: Do you already have that? I do not, Um, but

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00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: I can think this is the first time I asked,

799
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: so I can think of one quick. I've been doing

800
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: a lot of years. Um, okay, let me let me

801
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: ask the question there. Oh yeah, coach Kiffen, Uh, are

802
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: you interested in going back to USC? You know, I'm

803
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: fully committed to where I'm at, you know, this is

804
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: a wonderful place. I love the people here, you know,

805
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: and any time that we get attention and like that,

806
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: it's just a credit to our players and what they're doing.

807
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: Coaches their unfinished business at USC Now. I don't even

808
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: think that way, Dan, I'm just totally focused on our

809
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: program here. How do you feel whatever you're on the

810
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: tarmac coach? Interesting, Dan, I was on the same tarmac

811
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: and walked through the same FBO this weekend when I

812
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: went recruiting in la and it was very eerie. Name

813
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: exact one. And there was a little office there to

814
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: the right when you walk through the private airport, which

815
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: is where pat Aiden walked me in at three seventeen am.

816
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: And so that was a little bit strange. So you

817
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: walk by the office where you got fired. Yes, it

818
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: was actually just a little coffee room that was in

819
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: the in the private airport. There is there a chalk

820
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: outline of you or anything there. That's kind of funny. Now,

821
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: nobody even knows football or coaches and that stuff. I respect,

822
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: you can laugh about it. Sure, you know, everything happens

823
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: for a reason, and you know you never would have

824
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: went and worked for Nick Saban had that not happened.

825
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: That's true. And you know, I this has become sort

826
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: of that stopover place for coaches who almost need to

827
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: revitalize their careers. I mean, is that is Nick taking

828
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: in people and knowing that that's what he's he's helping

829
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Speaker 1: them with. Yeah, I think there's two sets. I think

830
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: there's you know, the ones he bring in that help

831
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: him and you know he helps as well. You know

832
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: that are offensive coordinate, you know that are coordinators. And

833
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: then there's something he brings in you know, off the

834
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: field as analysts. So like that just kind of restart

835
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: him because they're you know, down and out or they're

836
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: still under contracts somewhere. So I think there's kind of

837
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: two sets with that. It's great to talk to. You

838
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: have fun and can you have fun in Tuscaloosa. We

839
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: have fun if you win, well, have fun in Tuscaloosa.

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00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining his coach. All right, Dan, have a

841
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: good weekend. That's Lane Kiffin