WEBVTT - Drive Time: James Daniels, Larry Borom Interviews and Zach Wilson, Ashtyn Davis Analysis 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.840 What is Up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.319 I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and on today's show, 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.279 we continue the free agent analysis. Plus we're gonna have 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.080 our first two chats with brand new Miami Dolphins. James 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:25.360 Daniels and Larry Boram joined me to talk about their 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.200 addition to the Dolphins offensive line. We'll also break down 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.160 the tape on Zach Wilson and Ashton Davis, formerly of 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.040 the New York Jets, from the Baptist Health Studios inside 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:38.280 the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:43.040 Magie Jaffe, It's up, Dolphins. Welcome back into another edition 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.519 of free agency here on the Draft Time Podcast as 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.879 well as Dolphins YouTube channel. My guest today is new 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.400 Dolphins offensive lineman James Daniels. James, welcome in man, Thank you. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:52.240 I'm excited to be here. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:53.720 You finding a way to run the building all right 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:54.600 down South Florida, all. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.920 Right, yeah, yeah, I mean the building's pretty big, really 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.600 nice facility, and so yeah, it's been it's been nice 0:00:59.640 --> 0:00:59.920 so far. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.360 What's your first first impression here of South Florida in 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:03.800 the month of March. Not too bad right. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.240 Now, It's not too bad. It's way higher than in 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.880 the Midwest. So it's been The weather's nice. The sun 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:10.319 is really really refreshing. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.559 Iowa, Chicago Bears, Pittsburgh Steelers. You're like used to having 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.040 snow on the ground this time of year. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:17.280 Yeah, each weather. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:18.520 Yeah, I love that. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:19.480 It's crazy. 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.840 I've seen shorts and like tank tops and March is crazy, 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.000 you know, so that that's pretty exciting. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:26.720 We have some folks on staff. You'll never see where 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.440 pants around here. That's always shorts and shortsleeve shirts. So yeah, 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.560 it's always. The weather's definitely a big selling point. So 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.319 I grew up a Dolphins fan, James and my guys 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.640 were Ricky Williams, Dan Marino, Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas. But 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.720 one of my favorite players of all time is actually 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.760 related to you. And I just learned this Chris Chambers, 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:44.400 and you go way back. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:45.720 Huh yeah, yeah, way back. 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:46.000 Yeah. 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:47.280 He's one of my cousins. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.880 And it's actually funny, like growing up, like I never 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.800 really fall the NFL. I always fault Chris just because 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.120 you know, he's my cousin. And whenever he would play 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.200 in like the Midwest, like where my family was living, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.040 like he would always give us tickets to games, and 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.080 Chris has been like a super good resource for me 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:03.880 in the NFL or like when I was in college 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:05.680 or just a whole bunch of stuff. Chris has been 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.120 a great resource to me. So it's actually really cool 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.000 that like seeing what he how successful he was for 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.960 the Dolphins, and like how many, how much fans, how 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.000 much the fans love him, how much like people around 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:17.280 the building that know them love them. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:18.359 So it's pretty cool. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.560 I used to post on message boards and my avatar 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.360 for the long time, longest time was him doing his 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.200 first down signal that he would do after he'd make 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:25.560 big catches. That's my guy. 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:25.799 Man. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.320 The fifteen catch two hundred and thirty eight yard game 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.720 he had against Buffalo, that's a franchise record. I think 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.720 maybe it's still I'm not sure, but he was. He 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.000 was a stub man to say the least. So yeah, 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:37.760 let's go ahead and get into some of your football 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.880 stuff here. So you know, every time I talked to 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.840 a player who's coming off an injury, had the Achilles 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.240 injury last year, they tend to say, like that rehab 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.960 process is, you know, kind of like lonely and can 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:48.799 be like dark at times, but they wind up coming 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.480 out of it with like a like a new appreciation 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.640 for the game and for the process. I'm kind of 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.480 curious if you've experienced that or just how that whole 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:56.280 process has been for you. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.440 I would't say it's really been lonely, like I've had 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.720 like obviously, like I've been back home with my wife. 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.480 I have my wife, my two cats, and like they 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.359 always support me. But like I have a really good 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.680 like PT. I have a really good like gym staff 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.880 that I've been with ever since like a week after 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.520 my surgery, that I see them five days a week, 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.600 and like they've been they've been helping me a lot. 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.680 But also like when I have like a lot of 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.040 lone time, like I like I'm a reader and like 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:20.920 I love to learn, Like I'm big in the science. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:22.720 And it's like I did like a lot of research 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.200 on like Achilles rehabs and Achilles, like tenant studies, ten 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.680 and opathy, those studies like ten and night studies, Like 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.920 all the research that's been out there, like on Achilles tendants. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:33.639 There's not much of it, which is actually kind of crazy. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.760 There's not much, But like I've done like a lot 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:37.480 of research on it, and I'm just trying to like 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.960 do that to like help speed up my process. And 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.240 I think I've been like doing a good job so far, 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.600 and so're excited to just keep on rehabbing and keep 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:45.240 on progression. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:46.640 You think there be more out there. It's a pretty 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.880 common injury in football, right, I mean that happens a lot. 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.200 Actually, to be fair, no, it's really not. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.440 I mean, yeah, there's probably like ten fifteen Achilles injuries 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:55.960 every every year in NFL. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:57.119 And the expert. 0:03:58.480 --> 0:03:59.440 I'll defer to you that. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.760 It's not like there's not and that's like and that's 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.600 the hard that's like the hardest part. Like it's not 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.440 really it's not really that much of an understood like injury. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.680 And so yeah, like every research that's been out there, 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.840 like I've read, I've read all of it, and so like, 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.600 I think it's been I think it's been pretty helpful. 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.560 So you're more of like a text reader than like 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.640 a literature I do. 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:21.360 I do both. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.000 My wife and I we've been doing like book exchanges. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.320 I read on a kindle though, and she reads like paperbacks. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.440 But I should I should start reading, honestly, I should 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.919 start reading paperbacks. It's better, just like to have like 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.359 the physical book, like you be more immersed in it 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.680 than like reading on like a screen or like iPad 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:37.159 or something. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.920 Like going to the beach and reading hard hard copy 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:41.680 is always like one of my favorite things to do 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:42.840 out there. So it's a good place to do. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:43.960 And you can do that in March here. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.920 Yeah, you definitely can't. I think my family's going to 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.240 the beach like next week. You can go around. It's 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.160 it's pretty awesome. So you've played ninety career games in 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.279 the National Football League. I'm just curious about how that 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.800 value of all that experience, Like what does that bring 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.640 to the Miami Dolphins with James Daniels having ninety career games. 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.880 I mean, it's just like I've seen. I've seen a 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.719 lot of stuff I've seen, like like talking about defensive 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.359 like I've seen like a lot of defensive trends, like change, 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.320 like defenses do like a lot of stuff different when 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.080 I came in the leaked than what they do now. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.520 Or like players and seeing like different type of players 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.120 or like similarities and players. But like I feel like 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.200 the best thing about like playing so much football is 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.160 like if we're playing a defense and we're running a 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.480 certain play. I can look at like Chicago Chicago Bears 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.359 game in twenty nineteen, it's exact same play versus exact 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.120 same type of defense. I'd be like, hey, I was 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.320 left guard. Hey the left guard got beat here because 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.760 he did this, and so talking in twenty twenty five, 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:38.840 I'd be like, hey, like left guard here, like don't 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.839 do this or this is exactly what I have, what 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.039 I did six years ago when I got beat on it. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.160 And so it's just like it's crazy. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.080 It's just how like sometimes like football is different, but 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.359 still it's still all the same, and like it's really nice, 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:51.960 like I can watch a game. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.320 From twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, twenty twenty one, you know. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.280 And so I think it's really just being able to 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.520 bring that knowledge and like experience to a room. It's 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.400 huge because as like a young player, my older player 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.520 in Chicago I look up to. I played next to them, 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.080 Charles Leno and Charles Leno. He was a guy who 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.960 would like text me clips and be like, hey, like JD, 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:10.800 look out for this, look out for this, and you know, 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:12.480 and that's why I try to be to the younger 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.919 players like I try to be the vet that Charles 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:15.479 was to me. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.520 That was a question I had for you because Spencer 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.960 Anderson mentioned that about you last year in a locker 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.560 room interview that I saw. He was saying that James 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.360 will fire off texting me and the other young guy 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.960 Zach Frazier and Mason McCormick. Like, here's another clip from 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:27.760 from James saying like this is what you look at 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.280 right here, So what like why do you do that? 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.440 What obviously came from your from your veteran experience was 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.279 next to Charles Leono, But like why do you play 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:33.719 pay it for? 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.159 I think I think it's just helpful because, like I mean, 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:37.359 I don't know how. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:38.480 I just don't know. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.920 Because watching film, watching film is a lot more than 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:42.960 just like turning on the film and just clicking through 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.320 the place. There's so much things that watch that happened, 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.920 certain plays that if you you may watch the play 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:50.920 three times, you don't see it. And so like when 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.479 I'm like at home, like studying film, like I always 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.560 try to make sure like Okay, I may understand this, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.000 but there's a whole bunch of people like this is 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.480 kind of a niche topping. Not everyone understand this. So 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.640 like if there's any type of like even I even 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.039 send like obvious stuff too, Like if it's an obvious clip, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.200 I still send it, like, Hey, this is a huge 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.480 thing that people need to pay attention to. So I'll 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.560 take a video and look at I know one. No 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.080 one usually responds, but I know they see it. They say, hey, 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:18.280 no one will saw it. There will be like eight 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.400 video clips in the world. There won't be any responses, 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.680 but they've seen it, and they'll like, like the next 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.600 day they'll be like, hey, what made you see this 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:25.680 or what made you send this? 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:27.800 And so I feel like that's always been helpful. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.440 They gotta throw you a thumbs up or a heart 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.240 emoji on that man, just just to tell you that 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:32.920 they saw it. Like that streusses me out as a 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.280 text or myself, like just tell me you saw the text. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:36.160 No, they see it. 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.800 They see it, they acknowledge it, just in a different way, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.240 just a different way stuff. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.600 So you touched on something that I actually I find 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.600 very fascinating as I do my podcast and research NFL, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.960 you know football as much as I possibly can, there's 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.480 shift and trends of like teams that played a lot 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.680 more you know, single high presentations in the past, where 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.720 now it's like too high, you have to run the 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.360 ball because we're going to play off and invite the 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.200 running game. Like from your experience, how has that kind 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.560 of shifted the the mindset of an offensive lineman or 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:01.840 has it? 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.040 I mean you just have to know. It's like if 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.480 teams are constantly playing too high, I mean, the easiest 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.040 way to lose games big explosive plays. I mean, just 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.720 look at statistics statistically, I mean, if you have big 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.720 explosive plays are usually coming from passing plays, and those 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.720 in passing those can change games. And so teams are 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.440 just like defensive league teams are just realizing, hey, we're 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.440 just okay, we may give up one fifty rushing, but 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.880 if we're not giving up the forty fifty sixty seventy 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.760 yard touchdown passes, we could still manage the game. And 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.400 when defense gives you something, it's like when they're playing 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.640 single high. If they're playing single high, because like when 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.520 you're running the ball, well, they're gonna play single high, 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.840 and that's when we have to kill them with the pass. 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.360 So like we understand, like offense lineman should understand that 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.720 whoever the defense gives you like, that's what you know, 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:45.680 that's what you're gonna have to do. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:46.880 You got to take advantge of it. And I don't know, 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.040 I'm sure you're aware of this, but we have a 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.400 couple of guys ten, they were ten and seventeen. They 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.360 force a lot of too high coverage that we have 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.720 a lot of long touchdown makers here in this offense. 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.400 I remember we played here, We played here in twenty 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.480 twenty two. That game, right, yeah, in the that's a 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:01.160 brutal loss. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:01.840 Oh my god. 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.440 But the first drive, the Dolphins first drive of the game, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.360 I just remember I was just looking. It was like 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.240 five yards, five yards, twelve yards, twenty five yards, ten yards, 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:11.120 ten yards touched out. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.480 Yeah, it was like it was. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.360 It was so efficient, I was. It was crazyer his 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.640 motion and like plays. I mean, it was, it was, 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:18.800 it was. It was pretty impressive. 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.280 My experience is the OPSID was like, yes, yes, yes, touchdown, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.080 all right, there we go in the end zone right 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:24.679 away off the top. So yeah, you'll get you'll get 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.600 to enjoy that here firsthand with the Miami Dolphins. I 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.280 just want to keep asking some philosophical football questions because 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.560 you're so good at this uh. I like the idea 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.840 of offensive line play is something that I think has 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.760 also shifted over the last ten years or so. You 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.720 see guys like come out of college and it's like 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.120 get to the line of scrimmage, you know, run the 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.000 snap and get back to the line scrimmage, like don' huddle, 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.240 don't finish your block maybe or don't maybe don't worry 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.280 about as much, whereas like in the old days it 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:49.800 was like, you know, play through the echo of the whistle, 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.440 and in the NFL it's more like huddle up, finish your block, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.120 play a certain style. Like do you see that difference? 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:55.600 And like how is that kind of impacted the way 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.199 guys develop, you know from rookie year to year eight? 0:09:58.280 --> 0:09:58.439 Now? 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.880 I mean it just been the that's the biggest thing 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.400 for I think offensive lineman is like one who their coaches, 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.160 two what their scheme is, and three the players around 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.240 their scheme, because like if you're you could be a 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.280 super talented offense and you see it all the time, 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.760 like you have a super talented offensive lineman, but he 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.439 doesn't have a he doesn't have a good coach, and 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.320 he just doesn't develop or they're playing in the scheme like, 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.160 not all schemes in the NFL are created equal. There 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.920 are schemes where there's large margin for errors or offensive 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.679 line and I think, like, I think it's just unfair 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.559 that like some offensive linemen are they're playing in schemes 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.280 that are they're super critical and they have to pretty 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.319 much play perfect for the team to be successful. And 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.160 then the third thing is like the players around them. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.760 It's like, for example, like I was lucky when I 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.960 was in Chicago while I was left guard, I had 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.280 Cody white Hair at center and that Charles Lyndho at 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:48.720 left tackle. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.319 They were both Pro Bowl players. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.800 And so like they helped me so much and they 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.960 taught me the game, you know, and it's like you can, 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.280 like I feel bad. There's like sometimes there's rookies who 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.679 come into the NFL and they don't have players around 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.720 them who can help them. They have players around them 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.199 are struggling and she's very hard to develop. Like I 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.400 don't think I would be an eight year player if 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.520 when I went to Chicago if I had people who 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.760 weren't successful players around me. And so like I'm glad 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.200 that like when I'm here that like no matter who's 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:16.760 at center or right tackle. 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.040 It's like I can't. I know I'll be able to 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:19.480 help them. 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.079 That must be why you pay it forward so much. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:22.920 You kind of, oh, you're not your career, but like 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.480 a lot of appreciation towards those guys. So speaking of 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.200 the scheme, you must be thrilled to be coming here 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:29.720 because watching your tape, Man, the way you get out 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.120 in space with some of the nastiness too. But man, 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:33.959 we run the outside zone plays and we get eighth 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:35.320 and going out in space, like, you got to be 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.440 pumped to lead that guy in this offense. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.760 Yeah, the scheme is sick. It's super cool. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.160 And then I mean the weapons, the weapons on offense 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.920 or a like are really good. So I'm really excited. 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:47.120 I'm really excited to play in it. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.120 Okay, enough football talk. I want to talk about your 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.440 Instagram page, not yours. You mentioned your two cats earlier. 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.920 I found the Instagram page. Man, tell us about being 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:56.320 a cat dad, because I told you off the air, 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.000 I have a ten year old cat. She's like the 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.679 queen of the house. She takes a lot of crap 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:01.760 from the four and the two year old in the 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.120 house of the humans, you know, but she's she's like 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:05.720 the queen of the house. So tell me about your cats. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:09.440 Yeah, I'm actually I wasn't. Originally I wasn't into cats. Oh, 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.240 I'm actually allergic to cats. I had dog growing up. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.760 But then my wife when she was in grad school 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.400 in Saint Louis and then I was I was with Chicago, 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.400 she was in Saint Louis loan and so she we 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.480 decided to adopt a cat for her so she wasn't 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.000 like alone all the time. And then a couple of 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.480 years later she was like our or so our first 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:28.160 cat we adopted. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.360 Her name was Kerma. We adopted it from a shelter. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.120 And then I was. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.800 In camp in Pittsburgh and she was like, I know, 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.360 like Kerma's game lonely. I think she needs a friend. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.520 And so she went to a shelter and then it 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.320 was off day. I'm taking a nap. I have like 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.840 five missed calls from her, and she's like, hey, like 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:45.400 I found a. 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.679 Cat to adopt. I found a cat to adopt, kind adopt. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.600 I was like, I was like, I don't know if 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.120 you want to yeah, And then yeah, then we got 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.400 second one. Yeah, I've been two years later, three years 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.679 layer after we had after we got Kerma, So yeah, 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:00.160 we have two cats, Kerma and guitar. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:01.280 There. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.280 Kerma could be a little bit she can be a 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.839 little bit nasty sometimes the guitar is a little bit 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.520 nicer than me. But they both love Aaron a lot 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:09.280 more than they loved me. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.800 I was gonna say, Usually it goes like the data 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.920 is resistant to like the new cat or dog purchase. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:16.560 Then a month, Larry, you see the cat like on 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.120 the top of the guy's head, like they're just like inseparable. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:20.400 So that seems kind of how it's been for you. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.480 Yeah, the cerone, she'll get close to me, but like 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.920 anytime I like try to touch or something, she'll like 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.200 like run away, not run away, but like walk away 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:28.520 to like where I'm auferent range. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.520 Very good stuff, James Daniels. I think the fans are 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:31.880 gonna love getting to know you. Man. I appreciate your 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.480 time today. Thanks for talking with us. Sure, and there 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.840 he goes. Let's go ahead and take a break right there, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.760 come back and talk to the other offensive line acquisition, 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.760 Larry Boram. That's next here on the Draft Time podcast, 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.760 your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.360 What's up, Dolphins? Welcome back into the Draft Time podcast 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.120 as well as the Dolphins YouTube channel for another chat 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.040 with a free agent signing from the twenty twenty five 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.320 class new Dolphins offensive lineman Larry Boram. Larry, Welcome in man. 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.040 How's a how's Florid treating you so far? 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.319 It was great? Weather's amazing. Place is amazing. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.360 You get the short time, right, a little different than 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.599 Detroit and in Chicago from Detroit. Played his ball in 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.080 Chicago as well. And yeah, you got some nice weather. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.560 You can go to the beach any times soon, maybe 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.840 a little bit today, Yeah, a little bit all right, 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:16.800 that sounds good. So I had a chance to meet 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.839 you earlier in the cafeteria before we had the interview here. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.440 Not a bad little set up over there for some food. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:22.960 Hunh oh, No, it's great. It's amazing. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:23.960 What'd you have for breakfast? 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:25.920 Some eggs, potatoes and thesausice. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:27.920 Yeah, I mean it's every day, there's always a lead 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.400 food over there. So it's we enjoyed that quite a lot. 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.000 So you began your career in Missouri as a guard, right, 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:35.760 your first start was a guard, yeah, and then you 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.680 kicked out the tackle a little bit. Uh, and then 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:38.920 you do the same thing in the pro as you 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.360 play tackle, poyso guard. All of this question is designed 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.480 to basically ask you, what's the value in your experience 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.520 of having so much experience at different positions across the 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:48.320 offensive line. 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.720 I thought, the more you can do is everything in 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.360 this league. You got to be able to one not 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:57.120 just be one dimensional, and be able to know the 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.760 whole offense as a whole from every position, to be 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.360 able to be flexible and go in and if you're 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:03.960 called upon it, left. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.680 Guard, right guard, tack or whatever like. You got to 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.600 be able to do that. There's a lot of value 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:07.960 with that. 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:11.240 That seems to be like almost uniform in college football 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.640 and the pros nowadays, like guys cross train right, play, tackle, guard, guard, center, 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.000 because it is thought of as like a collective unit 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:18.720 more than just one guy doing a job like you're 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.120 thinking about all five. Is that kind of the idea 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:21.600 behind that? 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:22.000 Yeah? 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.080 Yeah, And I think it makes it easier to to learn, 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.320 you know, I mean, if you know and understand what 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.400 everyone's supposed to do, then you have a better understanding 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:30.520 of the whole fiction. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.560 Yeah, it makes perfect sense. So you come down here 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:34.960 and watching your tape man like your foot quickness for 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.440 a guy your size is like whoa, it jumps off 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.400 the tape. And when I'm watching you, I'm thinking, like 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.080 that fits what we do pretty well. We run off 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.480 the football here on the offensive line. How excited you 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:44.680 to play in this scheme and how do you think 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:45.800 it suits your skill set? 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.120 I think I'm one, I'm very excited and I think 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.600 it suits me very well just the way you guys. 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.760 Everything is done here as far as the play call 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.160 and the offensive schemes, everything. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:57.840 Is very so. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.720 Last year I asked Tron Armstead this question in training 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.840 camp about because he had played in New Orleans for 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.240 so long that it came here and got to play 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.840 in this you know, the Shanahan Tree system that as 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:08.880 I guess dubbed And I asked him, like, what do 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:10.960 you love about playing tackle in this offense? And he said, 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.000 they really do a good job making the offensive lineman 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.560 feel like playmakers. Do you kind of feel like that's 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.640 kind of how this offense works. They make your tackles 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.160 and your guards can be playmakers and go out and 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:20.960 make the big play that kind of springs the touchdown. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.880 Yes, yeah, I agree with that. I think it's it's 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.240 a lot into it that allows us to be that 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:28.080 playmaker and. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.880 A lot of Yeah, what do you think about the 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.240 skill pieces that we have down here with obviously Tyreek Hill, 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.160 Jalen Wattle, Devon a Chan just brought Nick Westbrook, Akina In, 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.360 John Smith, Jalen Wright, like the Lake Washington. When you 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:40.920 think about all those guys that can put the ball 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:42.560 in the paint, like, how excited you get about that? 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:44.120 Oh, I'm very excited. Is Nope? 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.280 Those guys are are speezers. They can get up and 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:47.560 down of itill is dope. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.880 Do you like when you're playing in the league? I know, 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.320 like you're so busy with your game planning and your 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:53.840 your meetings and stuff for that week, But do you 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.160 like catch other things go on? Like you did you 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.240 see the Dolphins over the years, Like, man, that offense. 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:58.800 Is is clicking. 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.800 Yeah, I'm one that I actually enjoy watching football still, 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.359 like even during the seasons, just seeing how the teams 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.000 do a lot of things. Yeah, this team has always 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.400 been a I'm like, man, that's that's nice. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:10.720 Yeah, it's been fun to watch the last couple of years, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.680 especially two years ago we were just like scoring thirty 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.920 five points every game. It seemed like, so you come 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:16.720 down to this offense, and you know, you played again 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.879 in Missouri, played for the Chicago Barriers, now you're here 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.280 in Miami. And we've kind of seen this trend in 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.560 the NFL over the last few years, where like maybe 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.399 for offensive linemen it takes a little bit longer to 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.840 develop and become like the best versions of themselves, like 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.080 we had Austin Jackson had like a big breakout year 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.600 in his third season, a very young offensive lineman in 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.840 the first round for us. Is do you think that 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:37.720 that's kind of a trend in the league in terms 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:39.600 of how guys developed, Because I was talking to James 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.920 Daniels about this before you came in here about how 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.080 like in college just coach more like just get to 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:45.960 the line of scrimmage and get to the next snap 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:47.879 because we're trying to go fast, right. Do you think 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.040 there's a difference in how that is played compared to 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:51.600 the pros And how do you think that impacts like 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.200 players like yourself, for instance, and your play to develop 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:54.600 your game. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:55.840 As a pro. Yeah, I think it's a pro. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:57.480 It's a lot more like you said, a lot of 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:01.159 more development into it, and in college it was just 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.879 get to line, next play, next player. Everything gets so fast, 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.160 but it approaches a lot of a lot more time 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.040 to really focus on what you need to do individually, 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.560 and I think development, especially for me, like fight. I'm 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.520 a younger player, still twenty five, fight my best balls 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.200 out of me. So I think that's definitely a good trend. 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.119 And reading some of your background on some stories on 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.240 Chicago Bears dot Com and stuff they're talking about like 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.120 kind of where your drive comes from and you don't 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:25.840 get complacent and you like got to the league and 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.560 it's like okay, now it's time to go to work, right, 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.400 Like where are some things you do to make sure 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.359 that you're always like striving to get better and not 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:32.160 being complacent. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.560 Just my work ethic just as a whole, stemming from 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.720 when I was younger. For my mom, she works seven days, 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.640 he was a waitress's the whole nine. Like just seeing 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.000 her do that really instilled in me too. There's no 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.680 you're not set anywhere, and like whether it's football, just. 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:49.760 In life in general. So that's that's really why you 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:50.200 get got wrong. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:51.960 So I assume that when you got drafted, you probably 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:52.800 were with mom. 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.400 Yeah, yeah, I was back on Yeah okay, and then. 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.920 When you got this the contract for the Dolphins, did 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:58.280 you like, was she probably your first call? 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.840 And guess yeah, yeah she was was it was. He 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:02.240 was very excited. 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:03.719 We've we've been through a lot of things in the 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.800 past couple of years, and just she was the static. 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.760 So you played high school football obviously, but also the 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.199 hardwood too, write basketball player back in back in the 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.800 in Detroit, right, So tell me about how your basketball 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.800 experience helped you on the football field. 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.520 Everything just with for work, being able to just move 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.000 in general, that's that all comes from basketball. But I 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.439 didn't start playing football until my high school year, my 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:28.560 freshman year high school. 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.280 Okay, so yeah, because basketball like playing defense, right, It's 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.640 like man, you hoop, and on the offensive line, it's like, man, 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.800 you quarterback, right, Like same idea, same concept. So I'm 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.080 fascinated by your background, man, because like at Missouri you 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:41.520 majored in pre engineering. 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.800 Uh yeah, yeah, I began in pre engineering that I 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.640 went into business and then finished. 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:48.000 With sports as well. 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.560 Okay, but I mean that's like that is no small task. 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.640 Like I had a buddy that was an engineer major 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.560 at Washington State go kooks, And I'm like, he was 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.159 just so much smarter than me. Like everything that he 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.480 did was like he was just a wizard numbers and stuff. 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.240 And I think about that and like how you know, 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.159 we think about quarterbacks is having to be smart, but 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:06.919 you talk about like the collective you know of the 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:08.800 offensive line these days, and like you have to be 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.040 pretty smart to know landmarks and like how you're gonna 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:12.920 pass off blocks? Like how do you how do you 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.760 think being an intelligent person helps an offensive Lineman's everything? 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.360 Half the battle is getting to the line of scrimmage and. 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.280 Knowing what you're looking at, knowing to play called, oning 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.000 what you have to do, and using the five brains 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:25.760 as one. And so that's that's everything. 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.000 How do you feel your processing as an offensive lineman 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:31.879 has grown from your rookie year to now, Oh tremendously. 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.880 A tremendously just taking in all the mom I rook 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.480 here it was I had JP and a rom Jason 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:39.960 Peters and that was a blessing and he taught me 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.320 a lot. And being able to get to the line 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.760 and think like, okay, play call what I need to do, 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.240 and just little things at the line to really help 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:48.919 you build from there. 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:50.920 Yeah, very cool. So watching a lot of the tape 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.439 of the guys we brought in, including yourself and James Daniels, like, 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.000 toughness seems to be a bit of a theme behind 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.200 those guys. We think about toughness on a football field, 0:20:58.200 --> 0:20:59.080 like what does that mean to you? 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:01.520 Uh, something'sn be a lot of different things. It can 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:03.600 mean the traditional like just. 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.760 The physical part of it, but I think it's also 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.639 like the effort part behind it. Like I think effort 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.040 falls into toughness, and because you have to want to 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.760 put in that effort, in that grind to it, I 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:16.760 think that's a big part of it. 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.280 Okay, so football obviously comes first at all times. But 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.240 you're down here in South Florida, gonna get some time 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.199 off here coming up? What's the first thing that you 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.560 can't wait to go do as a new South Florida resident? 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:26.480 Beach and golf. 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:28.320 Beach and golf. So we talked about Golfriller and who's 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:28.840 gonna come up? 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.040 You just got into it, right, Yeah, Yeah, I've been 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.560 into it for like the past like seven months or so, 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:34.160 like a year. 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:34.760 How's it going? 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:35.480 Uh? 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:36.080 Not good? 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:40.880 But it's just the vib it's so have some good 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:42.240 has some good holds as a bad once. 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.000 Yeah. I mean you can get out there year round 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:45.440 down here so you can get you can really sharp 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:46.560 up the game of the off season. Man. 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:46.920 Yeah. 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.280 Larry Boram new Dolphins offensive I'm in pretty sure times man. 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:49.720 Thank you. 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:52.919 James Daniels, Larry Borum both in the can here. In 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.280 terms of their Draft Time interviews. Fun to talk to 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.720 those guys. Man, what characters they are, especially James. Right, 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:00.800 let's go ahead and take a break. Great there, come 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.040 back on the other side and get you not one, 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:07.600 but two analysis on free agent acquisitions. Zach Wilson, Ashton Davis. 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:11.080 That's next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:17.480 to you by Auto Nation. Quarterback Zach Wilson, whose career 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.879 resume dates back to the second overall draft pick in 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.520 twenty twenty one out of BYU to the New York Jets. 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:27.040 He spent three years there before last season going off 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.679 to the Denver Broncos, where he did not play any snaps. 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:31.800 He's a six foot two to two hundred and fourteen 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:35.520 pound quarterback who will be twenty six years old in August. 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.520 His injury history He had a PCL sprain that cost 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.440 him four games in twenty twenty one, a meniscus tear 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.479 that cost him all of the preseason and three games 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.240 in twenty twenty two. He missed time late in twenty 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:50.440 twenty three after a concussion. He also tore a Laborman 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:53.600 High school and broke a thumb in college. Twenty twenty 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:56.359 and twenty twenty four were the only years without an 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.520 injury for Zach Wilson since twenty nineteen. He might recall 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:01.359 twenty two twenty four, he didn't play a rep the 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:05.600 entire season. His statistical profile twenty three touchdown passes, a 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.400 twenty five picks. It's a two point two percent touchdown rate, 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.359 a two point five percent interception rate, neither of those 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:14.720 very good. Fifty seven percent completion, six point three yards 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:19.040 per attempt, thirty seven percent success rate with a seventy 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.560 three point two passer rating, and he's taken one hundred 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.920 and thirteen sacks a's say, ten point two sack rate, 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:28.120 and he's twelve and twenty one as a starter. None 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.320 of those very good. He never posted a season with 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:34.040 better than a thirty eight point five QBR. He had 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.920 seven point eight air yards per attempt, twenty one point 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:40.080 one percent bad throw rate, a seventy two percent on 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:43.320 target throw rate. But he did have fifty five scrambles 0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.960 with an average of eight point nine yards per scramble. 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:50.080 He did not have any athletic testing in college because 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.600 of the COVID season. His contract is a one year, 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:56.960 six million dollars deal, which is roughly when I did this, 0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:59.680 and it was on Monday night, so it could be different. Now, 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.040 it was the thirty second most apy for a quarterback, 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.159 but we're also talking about guys coming up on their 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:07.280 second and third years of their contracts and the rookie 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.520 contracts that would push him more close to the forty range. 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.000 And this is the exact same contract we're talking about 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.280 here with Tyrod Taylor with Marcus Mariota. Again, if you 0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.159 factor in those like eight to ten rookie year contracts 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.960 or rookie contracts, I should say he becomes like the 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:26.520 fortieth highest paid quarterback, so a top quartile backup quarterback, 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:28.760 which is kind of what you need with Tua. At 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.680 least that's what the investment tells us. The film probably 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.440 something different, but that's kind of the mold of where 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.360 you find backup quarterbacks now right, their former failed first 0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.240 round picks that are looking for that redemption arc. That's 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.800 what it is these days. Otherwise you're just probably not 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.000 much of a player. You're probably more in the form 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:48.119 of a Gardner Minshew or a Mason Rudolph or a 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.720 Josh Dobbs, guys that just don't play the position very 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:54.639 well and don't have much upside. Now that's the information 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.680 the black and white, cut and dry, just data poll 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:00.320 from Travis Wingfield here on the Draft Time podcast. Let's 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:01.760 go ahead and get to what you really came for 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:12.160 here the verdict. You know, a couple of weekends ago, 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.560 I taught a careers in Sports class to high schoolers 0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:17.960 at Saint Thomas University. They were at the program for 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.639 the weekend, learning from folks like myself, and I was 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.520 telling them about how ideas come at all hours of 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.280 the day. That idea came late on Monday night when 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:30.000 I was thinking about how to stack these free agent reviews, 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:31.240 and I was like, I'm going to play the People's 0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:35.000 Court Verdict song before every single film reviews. So here's 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:37.800 what I knew about Zach Wilson. He was a gun, shy, 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:40.959 timid decision maker with a penchant for retreating against pressure, 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.240 bailing on footwork and clean pockets at the first sign 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:46.800 of danger. The game has always been too big for him. 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:49.600 In the flashes of pro day style plays that made 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:51.679 everyone fall in love with this guy for the second 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.159 pick in the draft, they show up maybe once or 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.679 twice a game while he leads a slog of an 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.160 offense for one hundred and seventy yard ten point output 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.080 every single week. He was drafted where he was because 0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:05.840 of a shortstop arm with plus scramble ability to create 0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.600 outside of structure, and there were glimpses of that as 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.160 a pro, but that was with the Jets. He spent 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.800 a year backing up bo Nix, working with Sean Payton, 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.200 Joe Lombardi, and Davis Webb in Denver, and my pre 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.440 free agent draft report or freegency report I should say, 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:22.679 was that he was frenetic in the pocket, with an 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.639 inherent nature to retweet against pressure, has no trust in 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.440 his protection due to a lack of processing power. I'm 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:30.760 not sure he understands the checkpoints he has to get 0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.880 through pre snap, what presentations look like and how they're 0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.119 set up to get different looks from the defense. He 0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.480 has a fun arm, some scramble ability, but he can't 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.840 even maximize that because of the horrible spots he puts 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:45.160 himself into as a drop back passer. Perhaps he developed 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:47.840 this stuff for the first time in his career working 0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.760 with a competent play caller and quarterback room, but it 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.320 would be a hard pass for me. That's what I 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.879 wrote back in January February. I also know that Albert 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.359 Breer tweeted the quote based on what people in Denver 0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.080 were saying about Wilson after the season. Don't sleep on 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.159 this move end quote, so that maybe you want to 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.000 find out exactly what the hell that means. Unfortunately, we 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.160 got no evidence of it on tape with zero snaps 0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:12.040 played in Denver, so we're stuck to pick some things 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.919 out of his Jets tape as well as some preseason 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.040 Broncos tape. Here's what I wanted to see when I 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:21.880 cracked open the evaluation on Zach Wilson. His third down reel. 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.040 That's where you always start with quarterbacks third and long. 0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.280 How do they pass when the defense knows the pass 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.400 is coming. Games where he came off the bench, big games, 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.719 because he has had some statistical anomalies where he kind 0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:33.119 of went off in games. I wanted to know what 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.760 the case was in those situations, and then of course 0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.600 some of his Broncos tape, even if it is just preseason. 0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.120 I needed to see if the pressure was a protection 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:44.240 thing exclusively. I needed to see what type of energy 0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.679 he brought is a backup, and I knew he had 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.679 those three or four games where he went crazy. I 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:50.959 wanted to see what was common across those games, and 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.159 of course throughout all of that, how it translates to 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:56.440 our offense. Here's what I found. The pressure and protection 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.560 was a pretty even split in terms of blame to 0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.000 be passed a round, but his ability to play the 0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:05.600 position in New York was just non existent. Brother not 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.800 taking the information the rotation would give him, Like even 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.600 when he got deeper into his career, he would step 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.000 up into a pressure, he would try to create or 0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.760 make matters worst. He would play the position in this 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.639 very programmed way, where like he would feel pressure against 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.399 teams with good blitz schemes or a sim pressure where 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.359 you know the pocket is perfectly clear and fine, and 0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.280 he would like step up into the pressure or quickly 0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.040 check the ball down to a player who was well 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:36.000 covered in the in the coverage scheme and have like 0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.400 no on the fly ability to adapt to how that 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.320 particular play went. I'll never forget high school basketball are 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.880 head coach always use this example of how to run 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:48.880 the clock out at the end of games, and he 0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:50.880 was like, you know, we run the offense to drain 0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.160 the clock, but if they spring a league and you 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.000 catch the basketball with a free run to a layup, 0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.840 go take the two points. And he'd always compare it 0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.200 to like, you don't see a receiver, you know, just 0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.520 go down or out of bounds when they catch the 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.080 ball when there's trying when they're trying to drain the clock, 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:07.440 they go to the end zone if it's there for him. 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.360 Although that's kind of changed in recent years, but that's 0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:10.920 what Zach reminded me of, Like he was the kind 0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.840 of guy that, oh, we run the offense that's dranned 0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.880 the clock. Let's just go ahead and do that. Even 0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:18.800 if the guard slips on the floor and I have 0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.360 a chance at an easy, uncontested layup, I'm still gonna 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.120 run the offense because that's what I was told to do. 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:27.160 That's how I evaluate his game. There's no like adjustment 0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:30.600 or feel for what's happening on the field itself, feeling 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.960 just that constant bit of urgency or I guess phrenetic energy. 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:38.200 I should say, like, my rules are one two three, 0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.400 so we're gonna go one two three, regardless of of 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.280 the variables the defenses throw at me. The only game 0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.400 of his career off the bench was the twenty twenty 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.240 three opener when he when we thought he was going 0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.360 to be holding a clipboard for the whole season, and 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.400 then just four plays into the year, he's back in 0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.600 the saddle and he looked like you expect him to 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.400 look in that spot, like, oh s staying it. 0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:57.120 You know. 0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:00.080 The athletic ability is nice. He can get you a 0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.480 first down or two per game with a scramble, but 0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.160 it creates more negative than positives, and it's a bit 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.520 over sold in terms of his creation, Like he can 0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:11.360 get flat footed and then can't immediately change directions, which 0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:15.800 I think is the on field application of athletic ability 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.680 that sometimes gets lost with these players' workouts, Like it's 0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.720 clear he kind of gets concrete feet in those situations 0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.959 where he labors off of a spot and winds up 0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.040 taking these massive hits, like we saw Bradley Chubb damn 0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:28.480 near take his head off down here a couple of 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.160 years ago. He often has to gather before he makes 0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.120 his escape, and I just think that's from all the 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.200 end decision. He's also not going to be part of 0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.200 any short yardage or two quarterback packages. Not that we 0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.520 expected that, but I thought it was the possibility with 0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.120 guys like Mariota. We'll see with Jaln Milroe and the 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.640 draft guys like that. Right, My biggest thing that I 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.000 can hold on to was I thought when he played 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.520 in rhythm, when he got his footwork right and identified 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.800 the read and played within that rhythm, he drove the 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:57.280 football with confidence. It's a tight spiral, it's very sharp accuracy. 0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.280 It hits the guys in the numbers with a little 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.800 downwards reject makes it easier to catch. I have to 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:05.080 imagine a year of jeweling that. With Sean Payton helped, 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.600 He'll be one of the guys I'm watching closest in 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.880 Ota to see what we have there because I don't 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.840 know what it is because I don't have a twenty 0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.520 twenty four profile to go off of. If you can 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.200 play with your feet and rhythm to the offense here, 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.040 you're going to be all right, it's very tough to do. 0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.000 We've certainly seen that be the case. And then if 0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.320 you can do that with plus physical skills which he 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.440 has in the arm and the legs, then you can 0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.239 really amount something special. Something this offense really helps him with. 0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.280 Also is where you get these clear indicators to help 0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:36.720 him play more in rhythm and on time, something that 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:40.320 typically happens with good fast route runners. Right, you can 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:43.520 better see leverage or have and play with more confidence 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.240 off the leverage of the defense than what he has 0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.160 done in the past because of what we have here, 0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.080 and they are few and far between. But when he 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.200 trusts it and he rips it, he has some really 0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.960 pretty shots. He had a touchdown pass to Alan Lazard 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.040 on third and eight in the mid red zone against 0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.200 the Chiefs back in twenty three where he threw it 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:03.680 off the overhead hang backer widening before the eventual break 0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:07.480 in route of Lazard into that hole anticipation throw. So 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:11.000 there is like some modicum of example of it on tape. 0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.400 It's just very few and far between. Now, that's as 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.560 much as I can give you because the majority of 0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.680 the tape is him just blatantly neglecting the information the 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.640 defensive rotation gives him. You know, a cloud cornerback sinks 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.880 into depth and takes away the over route that he's 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.920 working and doesn't think about that sinking corner, leaving the 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.240 flat wide open and never gets to the running back 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.560 all alone on the swing route and takes a sack. 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.480 Or the next series has a clean pocket, developing routes 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.680 and just goes to the checkdown right away because his 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:38.800 bad internal clock said the ball has to come out now, 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.440 even though nobody was there. He was just a broken 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.960 player there. So those glimpses were there more in Denver practices. 0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:48.040 Do we think we can get more of that? This 0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.200 really feels like a I can fix him type of signing, 0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:55.080 which I guess I advocated for in the idea for 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:58.320 Trey Lance. The next good football we see Zach Wilson 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.719 play will be his first. Hopefully we never have to. 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.200 And two would just stays healthy. I just had to 0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.520 see something from the Broncos because the Jets tape was 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:09.240 what I remembered, and to me, after watching that tape, 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:10.960 it's like, Okay, it has to be that we're going 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.680 off the Broncos time because I know it's the preseason, 0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.640 but the entire operation was so much cleaner. I saw 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.080 him hit the top of his drop mechanically aligned to 0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:21.520 his reads. The feet were hardwired to the eyes. I 0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:23.600 saw him pump and get his feet and his shoulders 0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.200 to the target and then come back to the actual 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.400 place he wanted to go, some actual defensive manipulation. You 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.800 know your boy loves that. Where he helps, I can 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.840 see the outside chance of developing a talented skill set 0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.600 into playing more on time and in rhythm this late 0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:40.240 into his career. With effective communicators in that quarterback room, 0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.440 he'll get the coaching he needs. Finally, why was he available? Well, 0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.480 he's not been good. I think he wanted a chance 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.520 to go somewhere with a better pathway to playing. Because 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.840 in Denver they had nixed the entire year and he's 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:51.840 played a lot of games in college. It hasn't missed time. 0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.920 It's more likely to play in Miami because to his 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.920 injury history. This category of why was he available is 0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.440 more for the bigger time signings like the James Annuals 0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.800 of the world. You know why Zach was available because 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.440 he hasn't been any good. My classification for him is 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.840 replacement level player with the hint of upside. So he 0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.600 slots in as your number two quarterback as it is today, 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.120 and at that price point, he's going to be your 0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.959 backup in twenty twenty five, almost had twenty twenty four, 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.000 and there's some upside there to potentially build. But yeah, 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:21.880 you got to imagine that. It's going off of what 0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.439 they've heard internally from Denver and the progress he made there, 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:29.240 because with the Jets just wasn't that good. Safety Ashton 0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.960 Davis is up next. He was a third round draft 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.200 pick of the New York Jets in twenty twenty out 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.799 of cal He played all five vis NFL years with 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:38.960 the New York Jets. He's six foot one, two hundred 0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:42.560 and two pounds, and he turns twenty nine in October. 0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:46.120 His injury history missed two games last year with a concussion, 0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.920 He missed three games in twenty twenty two with a 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.200 hamstring injury, and missed the last part of twenty twenty 0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.200 and the first part of twenty twenty one with an 0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.839 injury that was never disclosed. So he's missed some time 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.680 here and there as a part time player. His statistical 0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.840 pro file sixty nine games, twenty two starts, has not 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.480 eclipsed three hundred snaps since twenty twenty one. He played 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.000 seven hundred and forty five snaps that year, which was 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.920 his highest snap total. His second highest snap total was 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.560 his rookie season, when he played four hundred and two snaps. 0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:18.399 Hasn't gone over three hundred since twenty twenty one. As 0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.280 a career. Career numbers one hundred and seventy five tackles 0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.000 dine of those for loss point five sacks. He does 0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:28.040 have eight picks, fifteen passes defense, three forced fumbles, and 0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:31.359 four fumble recoveries. He does find the football I must 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:35.920 say the athletic testing profile. Another he didn't work out. 0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:37.200 I thought it was for the COVID year, but he 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.200 actually just was injured and didn't work out that year. 0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:41.520 He also got a one year, two point five million 0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.680 dollar contract. It's almost the exact same deal as Jordan Poyer. 0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:46.839 So take that as you will. And now let's go 0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:56.839 ahead and talk about the verdict. Now, I knew that 0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:00.279 Ashton Davis was best displaying range from the deep host 0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.799 as a single high center fielder. That's not to say 0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:04.879 that he didn't play down low. In fact, he has 0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.960 more box snaps than free safety snaps in his career, 0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.160 and maybe that's where the Jets went wrong. But perhaps 0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.160 with all the cover three cover one that we get 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:18.040 into that we rotate to, and with melafan Wu patrolling 0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.759 down low, maybe the idea is that he's an affordable 0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.560 backup option to camp out twenty yards off the football 0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.400 all game and use those center field skills, those one 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:33.239 hundred meter college National Championship winning skills in that center 0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.120 field position. I had a first round grade on him 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.560 coming out of Cal because of those ball skills, because 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.000 of the range, and because of his versatility. He was 0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.719 a really good nickel cover option at Cal. He would 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:46.000 play some will linebacker and obviously safety as well. Now, 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.840 when I did this report, the league was more of 0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:52.720 a single high presentation. And the way that's changed things 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.600 for backs and wide receivers and definitely quarterbacks, I think 0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.440 it's changed it for the safety position too, perhaps enough 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.840 to kind of change the landscape for a player with 0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.200 that type of skill set and for the worse where 0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.040 he's playing a little bit more in the box. And 0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.279 again we didn't get workout metrics, but he's a very 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.279 springy athlete. In fact, we do have something tangible. He 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.960 was the PAC twelve one hundred meter champion and a 0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.600 second team All American in college, but he hasn't played 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.800 a ton in the league. So I wanted to see 0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.359 how he was in run support, how his coverage has 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.080 been in the nickel, and his feels for playing zone 0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.360 and split field safety looks. And here's what I found. 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:31.480 The coverage is not very good. They used him a 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:33.680 lot in the slot as the big nickel. They'd go 0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.480 sauce and read and then Chuck Clark and then Ashton 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.680 Davis and like LaMarcus Joyner or anybody else back there 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.359 at those safety positions. But he was always the third 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.840 safety in the game, in for Michael Carter when he 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.200 was injured, and he would sneak down into coverage and 0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.120 it was just I watched the first three reps on 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.959 his target reel on NFL Pro, and right off the top, 0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.840 he gets out leveraged by Deebo Samuel. That's fine, an 0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:57.680 eight yard catch is fine, but then he misses a 0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.360 very routine tackle and it leads to twenty more yards. 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.880 Fast forward to the Buffalo game and he gets flat 0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.279 footed on an option wheel route by Ty Johnson and 0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.080 gets smoked to the back pylon, but Josh Allen misses 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.640 the throw literally. On the very next play, he's in 0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:15.040 slot coverage against Matt Collins, who is like the seventy 0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:18.360 fourth best receiver in the NFL, and gets absolutely toasted 0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:21.280 on a double move for a touchdown a little crossover step. 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.720 I think the feel is a challenge, to say the least. 0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.799 I don't think he has well defined landmarks in his repertoire. 0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.359 I don't think he's processing color that flashes in front 0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:34.200 of him, like you know jerseys the way like you 0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.719 kind of have to process and a sport that moves 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:38.520 this fast is like the color of the jersey. So 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.800 if you have like a three man route combination, okay, 0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:44.000 there's an aqua flash this way, aqua flash this way, 0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:45.880 that means I should have you know something coming in 0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.320 this general direction. Like I don't think that clicks for 0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.080 him watching his tape. I do think he's good in 0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.640 run support when it's not like downhill directly at him, 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.040 if he can stretch it out like a flat route 0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.400 or a screen route or a run that got a 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.160 run that was strung out wide. He can make that play, 0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.600 but he kind of drops his head as a tackler 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.040 and has a lot of misses on his tape. I 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:10.120 don't think his feel is good outside of two areas. 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:13.120 He is good at playing the curl flat downhill because 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:14.799 it's a short amount of space, and I think he's 0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:18.080 actually pretty good in those areas because he's got this 0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.600 like springy ability to kind of defeat screenplays where he 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:22.920 can kind of like hop around a blocker and go 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.640 make a quick tackle if it's not like running full 0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.359 speed downhill. And I also think he's viable as a 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.359 center fielder, and perhaps he does fall into that role 0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.319 more as you know. Again, I think we'll see more 0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.520 man coverage for the Dolphins this year. But yeah, they 0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:39.200 use him as a big nickel and his ability to 0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:42.640 cover fit the run really everything from them from there 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:46.320 was wanting. I mean, two million dollar player, hardly a 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.080 guarantee he makes the roster out of training camp. He's 0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.920 again good against the screen. I think his best traits 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.680 how he processes from depth. I would never try to 0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.719 bring him up past like fifteen yards beyond the football, 0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.319 but that presents a problem, right because if only going 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:01.960 to play the guy and cover one, cover three in 0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.640 center field. That's a tell for what you're doing defensively. 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:07.280 But when I watch him play like the ball, skills 0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:08.840 in the back end are pretty good. The way he 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.160 tracks and finishes picks is nice. So if you can 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.000 you know, maybe it's third and a third and fifteen 0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:18.719 like dime safety that plays this deep portion coverage because 0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.359 he has that range, and then special teams. That's kind 0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:22.920 of the route for him to make the roster. In 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.879 my opinion, I think where he helps special teams, third 0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.120 or fourth safety type, I think there's no chance that 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.840 we're done. I think he's competition for guys like Elijah 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:34.359 Campbell and Patrick McMorris. Very specific traits you can work with. 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:36.480 But if he makes the team, I think you hope 0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.880 it's like his safety four and nothing more than that. 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:40.640 Why was he available? This is not the kind of 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.759 player that this category was created for. I mean, he's 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.920 not been very productive, That's why he's available. I classified 0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:49.719 him as replacement level. I was very close to going 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:53.480 the red camp body description, but I'll bump him up 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.160 to the pink level because I do like the way 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:57.560 he tracks the ball on the back ends. That's Ashton Davis, 0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.160 New Dolphin Safety and there you go. That's the week 0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:03.239 of podcast here on Drive Time. On Monday, we're going 0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:07.040 to have the interviews with I believe Ifatu, Melafanmu and 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:10.279 Ashton Davis. I think the Wednesday interviews will be with 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:16.440 Zach Wilson and who am I forgetting Nick Westbrook? 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