WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Coach Speak 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.160 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:15.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys let go. Are 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.400 you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:23.520 a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:27.400 much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:33.519 Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:41.000 Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, January twenty six, 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.480 twenty twenty two, season seventeen, episode number one oh one. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:46.680 Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. It is 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.120 my break. Every once a week I get to actually 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.199 get away from the business of the Dallas Cowboys and 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.760 come spend an hour talking Cowboys football with you guys. 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.400 So it's fun. This is my fun part of the week. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.240 So I'm glad to have these guys. Women, got Dave, 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.800 Dave and Amber all joining me, and we're gonna have 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.200 some fun today. We're gonna start this and I actually 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.040 wanted to do this. I know we were at the 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.440 one hundred and one episode, so I don't know there 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.200 are any players that have ever won one on one. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:11.840 So what we're gonna do is we're gonna flip this 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.520 a little bit in the off season. It's the off season, 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.240 so we can talk about a lot of different stuff. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.479 But we're gonna start each show going around the table. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.679 We're gonna let everyone kind of give us one story, 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.720 one story in all sports. It can be football related, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.440 Cowboys related, it could be about baseball, basketball, it could 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.560 be your college whatever, one story from the previous week, 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:34.880 since the last time we were on the air that 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.320 you found most intriguing. So let's go around the table 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.120 and do that to get us going here today. And Nick, 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:44.560 I'm gonna start with you. M Well, obviously there's other 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.080 NFL stuff. I mean, like it's hard to branch out 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.680 with other stuff. But actually I just switched. I just 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.280 switched in the last five seconds. That's you, Seriously, that 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:56.840 is me. That is you. You know when you watch 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.320 baseball and you just you know, you grow ape of 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:05.920 the guys you remember like it's it's complete bs, it 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.160 really is. They need to fix what's going on in 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.560 the Hall of Fame because the guys that were the 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.320 greatest players are the guys that should be in there. 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:17.520 And I understand they messed up Baseball messed up. They 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.120 they I mean, you can't come back and if you're 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.399 not gonna you know, policemen don't know if if there's 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.799 no speed limit right here, you can't come back and go, well, 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.280 you look like you were speeding. Well you should have 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.600 been back there trying to you. And you know, I'm 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:35.280 figuring out. I think it's a it's a shame that 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:39.800 Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Mark McGuire, Pete Rose or not 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.720 in the Hall of Fame. That is absolutely ridiculous to me, 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:46.200 because the Major League Baseball made a mistake and then 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.720 they're gonna try back and we think we're gonna clean 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.120 it up. I think it's ridiculous. And I switched it. It 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:52.799 It was gonna be about Lebron James, and then I 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.720 just moved it to that. Now I've actually think that 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.919 was very timely, and I agree with you by the way. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.400 I think it's I'm not a big baseball fan, but 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.960 if I were taking my son to the Baseball Hall 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.440 of Fame, I would want to be able to walk 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.679 through that thing and tell him all the stories of 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.919 the guys that are there. And if you're going to 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.000 do that without Barry Bonds, I just I don't even 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.960 understand how you start that conversation I've always I've always 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.320 thought that that, and I mean, it happens in football too, 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.480 Like the people who vote for these guys play favorites. 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:23.240 Barry Bonds was never really well liked by the media. 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.000 He was kind of gruff, and some of that was 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.400 brought on by him by his own actions. Sure, but 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.040 but if you're one of the best to ever do it, 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.079 it shouldn't matter if you were a jerk, right, shouldn't 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.920 matter If I'm David ortiz is tested positive for steroids 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.400 at one point during his career. Yeah, he's also he's 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:46.240 why he's widely beloved, and I just I hate that. Um. 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.040 I think Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame, 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.640 no doubt. I just I've never liked that. Um yeah, 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.920 I thought that was right, and I don't. I don't 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.440 pay super close attension to baseball either. I didn't realize, like, 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.320 if you don't make it after enough ballots, you're just done. Right, 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.000 So you're gonna tell me that Barry Bonds just won't 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.600 be in the Hall of Fame. That's I mean, that's insane. 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.160 And when you think of the guys that are like 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.640 Jeff Kent or Andrew Jones, you're like, stop, just stop, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.520 I don't know. Yeah, well, Andrew Jones, I think I 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.520 had a good case for the Hall of Fame and 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.680 like he's somebody that deserves consideration. It has nothing to 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.480 do with him, Yeah, just like people's unwillingness to vote 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:29.440 for Barry Bonds because he probably cheated at a time 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:33.000 when everyone else did too and was a jerk. I mean, 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.760 that's basically what it comes down to him. Like, um, 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.440 he's the best hitter of a baseball I've ever seen, 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.960 and by the way, was a pretty damn good fielder 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:46.280 before he ever took and I left elicit I left 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:48.200 two guys out of that. I mean Sammy Sosa and 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.599 Mark McGuire. Those guys absolutely I think took baseball to 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.839 a different level in nineteen ninety eight. As a non 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.000 baseball fan, I was following that, like you, if you 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.440 were a sports fan, you were following that every day, 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.240 every day, who was getting more home run? Like it 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.440 was a fun summer of baseball. And I just yeah, 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.200 you're right. I mean, again, telling the story of baseball, 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:08.800 I think it's hard to do it without those guys. 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.000 Longer than I thought, well, that's what this segment is 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:16.159 gonna be mine? Is Mine's really tied into what we 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.320 talk about here, So we can get back on track. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.760 If you went to I mean you know where I'm from. Sure, 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:25.520 I don't think you can quantify if you're not. If 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.000 you're not from there and you don't follow them, I 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.760 don't think you can quantify what Sean Payton did for 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:32.760 the New Orleans Saints. It's for the city of New 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.440 word for the city. And I want to be clear, 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.120 like so much more went into fixing New Orleans after 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:43.720 Katrina than the Saints being good at football. But it 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.240 was a big, big deal at it. I mean, you're 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.719 talking about a team I looked this up before we 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.080 came on when you told me we were going to 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.400 talk about from their founding in sixty seven to when 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:58.720 he got hired, they made the playoffs four times. It 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.680 took them until four, not forty. And by the way, 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.960 a lot of those were under Jim Morrow, when they 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.680 were sharing in division with like the Walsh forty nine ers, 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.560 and it was like, cute, you made the playoffs, Like 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.159 you're not going anywhere. They didn't win their first playoff 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.599 game until the year two thousand and Again, they were 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.640 a they won a wildcard game and then got smoked 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.440 like they weren't they weren't really a deserving team, And 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.240 so put all that in context. Two thousand and five, 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:31.280 the city gets destroyed by a hurricane. The franchise is 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.680 like the epitome of a joke. Like teammates are robbing 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.120 each other in the locker room, getting in fights. There's 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.359 rumors that the owner wants to move the team to 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.919 San Antonio, which, now that I've worked here for a while, 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.760 I was like, how is that ever going to happen? 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.160 But when you're living in a flooded out city for 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.799 the worst team in the world that just finished playing 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.360 its season at LSU Stadium, You're like, yeah, who would 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.160 want to keep a team here? This is a joke? 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.880 And Sean Payton comes in and they've been to the 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.840 playoffs nine times one. He's got a nine and eight 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.200 playoff record. They've been to they won a Super Bowl. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.080 They're in the playoffs like all the time. He won 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.120 seven division titles. They made it four years in a row. 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.520 Probably they got robbed. They should have made the Super 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:19.640 Bowl in twenty eighteen, and it's twenty twenty one. Now, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.920 if you were born in the year two thousand, all 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.400 you've known is the New Orleans Saints being like one 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.880 of the model franchises in the NFL, and those of 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.320 us that are older than that know how insane that is. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.760 It's just crazy. And so I got emotional is not 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.040 the right word, but like I listened to his whole 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.160 press conference yesterday and I was like, this is surreal, 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.320 because I mean, him and Breeze got there when I 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:49.160 was sixteen, and now it's it feels over like there's 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.920 nobody left from when they first got there except maybe 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:57.360 Mickey Loomis the GM. But yeah, it's just it's it's crazy. 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:58.960 And we're gonna talk a little bit later in the 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.360 show about that little bit more just about where he 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.960 stands in the coaching hierarchy. But um, yeah, we are 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.480 gonna talk a little bit about it. But one of 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.640 the things I thought should be I thought that I 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.280 thought it was a timely mention just based on my 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.600 Twitter mentions. Maybe, but I do think what gets lost 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:18.239 sometimes and it's because of what you just said. Most 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.480 young people at this point, I'm thinking anybody that's your 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.440 age or younger, probably younger much younger than you, even um, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.240 they probably look at Drew Brees and what they know 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.400 if Drew Brees is, oh my god, Hall of Fame 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.920 Drew Brees. That was not Drew Brees. When he got 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.559 to New Orleans. Drew Brees was coming out of San Diego, 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.680 where Nick I asked you this yesterday. We remember because 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.560 we went up there, always went up there and played 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.839 San Diego in San Diego, and I remember watching him 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.240 walk off the field with the Danian Tomlinson. We were 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:47.400 standing in the under the stadium, and wasn't that big 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.720 a guy. He was a pretty good quarterback, but he 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.880 was coming off shoulder surgery. Miami was kind of flirting 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.000 with him, but they didn't go that route, and so 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.520 he was not this highly coveted free agent. He was 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.400 a guy that that look like Sean Payton decided, hey, 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.600 I can do something with this guy, got in there 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.679 and turned him into Hall of Fame Drew Bridge. It's 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.080 a long it's ninety minutes. I don't know who has 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:11.960 time to go listen to it unless you're just a 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.480 die hard Saints fan. But Sean Payton was about as like, 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.480 candid and emotional as I've ever heard. He told so 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.240 many cool stories. One of which being and I mean, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.240 I've known this for a long time, but they had 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:28.960 to aggressively outbid everyone for Breeze, not knowing for sure 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.920 that he would ever throw the same way ever again 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.120 because he tore his labram. But they were just like, 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.959 we won't get him otherwise, nobody's signing up to come here. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.600 There's still water in half the city like it. I mean, 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.240 it's crazy to think about. And he had a story 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.920 in his press conference about how like it wasn't until 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.560 week three of the ensuing season he made like a 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.680 back shoulder throw to Marcus Colston in Cleveland or something, 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.880 and he was like, that's when I felt confident that 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:55.720 he would be able to throw again. It's like, you 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.319 weren't sure until week two, Like forget training camp and 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.280 all that. I mean, you could get right. Yeah, it's 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.480 it's the greatest free agent signing in the history of 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.679 professional sports probably. I mean, when you just think about 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.520 all of the impact that I wound up having. All right, Amber, Well, 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:16.120 I don't have as a passionate story as these guys did, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.280 but uh, I mean a lot of things happened this 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.960 weekend in sports around and even in the NFL. All 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.720 these crazy games. But to be honest, if I'm just 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.520 being candidate, mine is pretty simple. One thing that this 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.240 turned out to me was what happened with Green Bay 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.000 and the Packers, because you know, we come on here 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.000 and we talk and Nick is one that talks about 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:40.000 it all the time. Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, but you 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.720 two you have mentioned it. He's great, he's great, But 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.400 when the Cowboys are going to face him, Yeah, I 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.320 think that's something we all agree on. I don't treat 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.000 him like Lucy. I'm I'm usually the one that treats 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.720 him like Yoda or Obi Wan, whatever you want to say. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.800 My point being is it was one of those things 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.680 that it just takes me back to the Cowboys and 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.440 think of that and thinking like, man, I'm not saying 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.160 that the Cowboys were great or that I expected them 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.960 to really step it up in the playoffs, but when 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.440 you see little things like that and then Tom Brady losing, 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.400 little things like that, guys that you put them up 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.240 here and then they lose, and then you're like, man, 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.000 you never know what kind of magic could have happened 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.280 with the Cowboys and how far they could have gone 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.800 with like a guy like Aaron Rodgers already out of 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.400 the race, and just things like that that leads me 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.880 back to how sad this season ended. You know, that 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:34.640 does bring up an interesting question, and I saw a 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.920 lot of people talking about this on Twitter as they 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.800 were watching those games. Was there anything that you saw 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:44.280 last weekend that made you think differently about the Cowboys 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.920 or made you wonder, like, man, that was a missed opportunity. 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.320 Was there anything that you saw last weekend that just 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.199 kind of made you think differently? Yeah. I mean I 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.599 applaud the NFL for growth. You know, everybody wants to 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.560 get better and you improve on things even if you 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.240 make mistakes. I love that how a week later, the 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.880 NFL has figured out that, you know, maybe the back 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.280 judge can can spot the ball. You know, it's not 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.559 doesn't have to be the umpire to run in sixty yards. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.000 I mean, if this was closer to the back judge, 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.400 you got seven on the field and four others and 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.520 then a wholes you know in New York sitting there 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.439 as well. So the closest one of the ball that 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.959 can tuckle do it, especially in a frantic moment. Then 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.720 nobody has to come running in and tackle the quarterback 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.760 and bull rush people down and waste some seconds. I 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.000 thought it was great by the NFL for able to 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.280 do that. A one week later, it's awesome for them. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:36.120 Kudos I better much. No, No, I think it's great. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.520 We're looking for growth. I mean, you know, Dez makes 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.240 the catch and he goes down and he moves the 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.440 ball here, and then all of a sudden, three years later, 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.360 they say, you know what that was, Rumbo drops the 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.520 snap in Seattle, you know, a block of ice coming 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.320 back there, and all of a sudden, the league says, 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.800 you know what, we need to control their our own 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.960 ball boys here. We don't need to let our own 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.280 you know, Seattle's ball boys control what kind of ball 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.800 Let's do our the NFL, you know. So it's cool 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.600 these playoff losses. They're just changing rules for the NFL. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:07.920 You gotta love it. It was well said. That was good. Um. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.560 I just think watching watching these games, I think in 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.679 today's NFL, you gotta be able to get home with 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.000 four pass rushers. Yeah, that's that was what I took away, 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:22.000 And that's yeah. San Francisco did the same thing to 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.240 Green Bay that they did to Dallas. Obviously, the weather 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.920 didn't help, but Rogers wasn't comfortable. I think he got 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.240 sacked three times, rushed a lot more than that, obviously, 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:36.199 I mean Tampa ll excuse me, LA made Brady look 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.640 awful because he didn't have time. Von Miller and von 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.600 Miller and Aaron Donald combined for like seventeen pressures in 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.920 that game, and he got he got sacked three times 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:50.200 as well. That's somebody was like, which, again, I get it, 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:53.160 you're frustrated this time what we saw from Patrick Mahomes 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.240 and Josh Allen. I don't even know what to say 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:59.359 to that. Seasons and and and the best quarterback performances 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.800 I've seen all season, and I just think you have 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:08.440 to come to the very painful realization that like, yeah, 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.000 I don't if you're hoping for your quarterback to be 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.280 that good luck, I just I don't know what to say. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.679 You know, those guys are unicorns. But somebody was like, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.200 all I saw all weekend was quarterbacks getting the job 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.360 done when Dak Prescott couldn't. And I'm like, not to 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.920 let those guys, not to let him off the hook. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.080 But I saw Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers looking mortal 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.920 as hell when faced with pass rushes that their offensive 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.960 line couldn't handle. It's football unless you have a six 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:41.880 five rocket launcher who can run of four five. Josh Allen, 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.320 I probably owe him an apology. I didn't think he 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.680 was I didn't think he would translate to the NFL. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.400 I didn't see it. It just I'm a big believer, like, 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.600 even if you're not a finished product in college, I 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.920 think you should lift your team and just obviously be 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:57.640 the best person on the field. I didn't think he 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:02.640 was that guy. I certainly didn't think he was capable 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.560 of playing at the level we've seen over the last 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.200 month of this season. I know Herbert has something to 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.480 say about this, but I just feel I've said it 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.000 a couple of times. I feel like that it's like 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.360 Manning versus Brady every year, you know, with those two. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.640 But I mean Herbert will have you know, he'll be 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.600 in the conversation as well, but he'll need better guys 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.320 around him. And those teams are great and then they're good. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:28.400 What's your well? I honestly it was. It was the playoffs, 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.480 and I actually had a couple of different thoughts coming 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.920 out of the playoffs, and I'll just run these down 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.600 for you. The first one was Joe Burrow and Cincinnati. 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.840 They're playing with house money at this point, Like, yeah, 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.400 if you're a fan of that team, even though you've 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.720 not had experienced this probably in your lifetime, then the 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.360 beautiful part about it is you're well ahead of schedule. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.000 So I love what I'm saying from that team, and 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:49.840 they've kind of become my darling team now I'm kind 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.080 of rooting for the Other thing I thought about is 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.840 and there's been a lot of talk about Aaron Rodgers 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.560 and what they're gonna do with him this offseason, and 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.200 I started looking at some of the money and Nick, 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.400 you and I talked about this yesterday. Did you guys 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.480 know that basically it's twenty seven million dollars of dead 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:08.720 money if the green Bay Packers trade him or release him. Yeah. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.000 I'm not understanding where all the conversation is coming from 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.080 that he's not gonna be a green Bay Packer unless 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.840 he's gonna retire, right. I just don't see how how 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.040 Green Bay's gonna make that work. You're gonna, yeah, you're 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:19.920 gonna have twenty seven million of dead money to not 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.760 have Aaron Rodgers. I just don't see how that's gonna work, 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:24.960 you know, And so all the talk that's out there 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.160 about where's he gonna be next year, to me, it's 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.480 pretty clear he's either gonna be in Green Bay or 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:30.840 he's gonna be on his couch, one of the two. 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.800 It's ironic to me that they probably pissed him off 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.200 when they drafted a first round quarterback. Uh. It's the 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.040 ironic part of it is is that the Packers did 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.600 the exact same thing to Brett Farve to draft him, 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.480 and it was kind of weird. It was like, I'm 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.800 not done, I'm still gonna play, and so it is. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.000 It is weird. I wouldn't have done it if I 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.680 was Green Bay, I'd give the guy help. He's still great, 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.440 He's still he's still he's gonna win MVP. Yeah, like this, 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.440 they should have helped him more, and that is probably 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.240 what started it all. I don't know. But that's also 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.480 where I look at him and I'm like, dude, you 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.359 did the same thing was done for you. Yeah, So 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.880 why are you really that upset? Like you've obviously seen 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.440 this franchise will do that and they've had success doing it, 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.920 Like they're one of the few franchises had that level 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.800 of quarterback play for that long period of time, and 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.520 it's reflected in their ability to win that Actually, it 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.520 goes back to what I was going to say, which 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.560 some people came at me for this opinion, because I 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.240 get it, like, you want to to be the best, 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.960 you gotta beat the best. But if Rogers is potentially 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:38.159 mulling retirement and Brady sounds like he's mulling retirement, you 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.080 look around all the quarterback talent in the NFL's in 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.359 the AFC right now, like it's loaded over there, and 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.520 then you look at the NFC and you're like, Okay, 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.480 Russell Wilson's still a good player. That situation is not ideal. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.639 But if those two or even one of them retires, 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.680 the actually like the best quarterback in the NFC rights 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.760 And that's not even a stretch to say Arizona and Okay, yeah, 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.280 I mean Kyler's there and I Stafford's still playing. I 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.280 get that. I should say he's in the conversation at least. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.640 And then I just Nick brought it up with Herbert, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.399 like I feel so bad for anybody that's got to 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.240 figure out how to consistently win in the AFC knowing 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:21.639 that Alan and Mahomes are like twenty six, Burrows twenty five, 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.400 Herbert's younger than that. Good Luck Raiders, Lamar Jackson's only 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.440 twenty five. It feels like Lamar's been in the league forever, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.440 but he's only twenty five. I just think they got 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.879 a lot of quarterback talent that at conference. I know it. 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:38.159 They're going to change the Pro Bowl format once again. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:40.600 That right there is gonna change it because it's gonna 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.199 be like these three quarterbacks made it like you know, 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.800 like Herbert and whatever, and then all these Lamar's out 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:48.440 like seriously, and then all of a sudden, the a 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:54.640 in the NFC, you know you got I mean, Kyler's there, 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.600 Stafford's there. Um, I'm a year from now we could 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:03.080 be talking about justin field Lance Lance. But I just Jimmy, 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.520 why I trying to run this guy out of town? Well, 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.360 but you gotta also remit, admit like they didn't. They 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:13.640 didn't didn't. They didn't play great. They had a great 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.080 special teams or a couple of great special teams players 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:17.600 they won that game for them, which, by the way, 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:19.400 that's part of the game. I'm not taking anything away 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.120 from them. But I think when you start talking about 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.840 Jimmy g like, they probably want a little more from 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.920 the quarterback position. Yeah, I mean, of course they obviously 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.359 already invested in You watched You watched those two games 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.600 Dallas too, Jimmy tried to give the Cowboys the game. Yeah, 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.199 you watch both of those games, and you're like, I 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.480 understand why you're good enough to still be playing, and 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.280 I understand why your top priority in the offseason was 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.600 improving your quarterback. Like it they he'll be Tyrod Taylor 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.600 or he'll just be a starter for some teams until 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.399 they get the young guy going. This is which is 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.040 what he's doing now, you know, And it just happened 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.119 to be in the championship. He won't be done. And whatever. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:55.719 I love a point Trey Lance takes over, somebody else 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:57.239