00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited. 00:00:10 Speaker 2: You here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare. 00:00:36 Speaker 1: To surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm brigard wine girl. Oh what's going on? Let's see? Well, I just lowered from the sea on the back of a kind of a giant animatronic bat, kind of lowered from the rafters. I'm sorry you weren't here to see it. It's you know, it's covered in like a gold tinsel. It's probably more glamorous than it is scary. But this is an audio format, so you don't get to witness that. You just get to listen, and I hope you will. I really love today's guest. I just think she's so fantastic and funny. Let's get into the podcast. Please listen. It's Lenin Parhum. 00:01:30 Speaker 1: God damn it. That was a spectacle. 00:01:34 Speaker 4: I didn't get to see Beyonce, but I feel like I just did, you know what I. 00:01:39 Speaker 3: Mean, that's kind of the experience I was trying to bring it was. 00:01:43 Speaker 4: I mean, you don't expect that in a backyard, you know, on a hillside and on. 00:01:47 Speaker 3: The left, and the thunderous applause, Where did that come from? They had to kind of pull me back up into the rafters. 00:01:54 Speaker 4: Until that part, I did feel fear for you, for the audience underneath you. 00:01:59 Speaker 3: You were shushing people. 00:02:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to hear your personal noises because you know, when you're when you we've got that kind of crotch, you know, strapping to secure you. It really it really makes interesting noises come out. 00:02:14 Speaker 3: It's squeaky. You forgot to oil it prior to the show. Yes, you were screaming, let him speak. I want to hear what it has to say. 00:02:21 Speaker 4: You speak, That is generally just my m o Let him speak, let her speak, let him speak, Let me hear their voices. 00:02:30 Speaker 3: We need to hear what they have to say, whether they're on a bat or not. They've got everyone has an opinion. Yeah, Lennon, I I'm not going to beat it around the bush. Have had a scary morning. 00:02:41 Speaker 1: What happened? I mean, other than the obviously aforementioned bat hang out. 00:02:46 Speaker 3: Oh and I was totally calm about that. 00:02:47 Speaker 1: Okay, got it. 00:02:48 Speaker 3: You know, I I've been training for weeks, but I noticed this bite on my ail. Okay, okay, you can immediately see it. Yeah, just having you inspect. 00:02:58 Speaker 1: Skeeter got you. 00:03:00 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a mosquito. No, I think it's a spider. 00:03:02 Speaker 1: Is it lifted? Is it raised? The bottom one is raised? 00:03:06 Speaker 3: Let's see here slightly. 00:03:08 Speaker 4: You're probably have sensitive skin already though, right, yes. 00:03:12 Speaker 3: Very so. But I have to imagine because I do get the occasional mosquito bite and then I touch it again. Do you want to. 00:03:21 Speaker 1: Let me see? Oh it's raised? 00:03:23 Speaker 3: Oh it is raised? Yeah, so what does that mean? 00:03:26 Speaker 4: But the the vein coming off the top is that? 00:03:30 Speaker 1: Was that there prior this here? Yeah? 00:03:32 Speaker 3: Is that new? This is new? 00:03:34 Speaker 1: Okay? Okay. Do you normally get eaten up? 00:03:41 Speaker 3: No? I mean I'll get bites, but the mosquito bites for me usually last. The itchiness lasts about ten minutes, okay, and then I'm fine. 00:03:48 Speaker 1: Have you put anything on it? 00:03:50 Speaker 3: I put a little cream on it, which one I can't remember the name. 00:03:54 Speaker 1: Was it a bena drill, a cortizone. 00:03:56 Speaker 3: I think it's a cortizone. Okay, And I took to benadryll. 00:04:00 Speaker 1: Oh you did? When was that? 00:04:01 Speaker 3: That was about an hour? 00:04:03 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll hold on. I'll pick up the paste. 00:04:06 Speaker 3: Possibly nothing to worry about, because actually I was concerned about taking them because I have the opposite reaction to benadru what. 00:04:14 Speaker 1: You get jacked out? I have. 00:04:15 Speaker 3: It's called a paradoxical reaction, and it makes me insane. It like really, uh makes my brain go really fast. Okay, so but it was. 00:04:26 Speaker 4: Early suda fed reaction though normally right, some people their heart starts racing and they take too much. And it's supposed to be a decongestant. But as we've seen from the FDA, like. 00:04:38 Speaker 3: Just as. 00:04:40 Speaker 1: Who knows what you're taking if it's going to work. 00:04:43 Speaker 3: Just you know what was sudafed doing for anybody? 00:04:46 Speaker 1: It's a decongestin, but it wasn't working, right, Was that. 00:04:50 Speaker 4: The one they said wasn't working? I think so well it worked for me if I had sus sinus pressure. Just take the lowest dose and it makes. 00:04:58 Speaker 1: That headache lighten up easy. Yeah, like sometimes Thailand all won't make a dance. 00:05:04 Speaker 3: Right, I'm more of an advil guy. Okay, Well, I'm on the Bena drill, which. 00:05:10 Speaker 1: I an advil? 00:05:12 Speaker 3: No advil, just the cream, the benna drill. You know. I I started thinking, is this going to be a situation where I have to go to the doctor. But it hasn't gone worse? 00:05:20 Speaker 1: That's good? Uh, Like swelling in your face or throat. 00:05:26 Speaker 3: Like, I don't know at least how swollen do I look today? Analish is saying absolutely. 00:05:33 Speaker 1: Swollen, normal amount of swelling. 00:05:35 Speaker 3: Kind of insulting. Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens. 00:05:40 Speaker 1: Did you wake up with it? 00:05:42 Speaker 3: I woke up with it. 00:05:43 Speaker 4: Well you woke up the hashtag? Okay, yeah, it. 00:05:50 Speaker 3: All comes back on my way to steal your man, this sort of thing. But no, it'll we'll just see what happens. I what was I going to say about it? Oh? The thing about mosquitoes? How long does a mosquito bite last for you? Itchy wise? 00:06:04 Speaker 1: Days? 00:06:05 Speaker 3: Days? Okay, this is good to hear because I remember as a kid them lasting days and now they don't anymore for me. So that was a real thing that happened. 00:06:12 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, my imagination. 00:06:14 Speaker 4: No no, And some people have like I get like my skin like freaks out when I get a mosquito. 00:06:21 Speaker 1: Bite how so like they can swell up to be. 00:06:23 Speaker 3: Like oh no, like golf ball sideger bug spraying all the time. 00:06:29 Speaker 1: I try to stay on it. 00:06:31 Speaker 4: Once I get one bite, I'm like I'm either out like as an inside or I'm like we're all spraying down. 00:06:40 Speaker 1: Have you ever tried skin so soft? 00:06:42 Speaker 3: I don't even know if they get so soft. 00:06:44 Speaker 1: So it was like a was it a Mary Kay product? 00:06:47 Speaker 3: It was like Lisa's looking into it. 00:06:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, so skin soon. That's so. 00:06:54 Speaker 4: It was like a door to door salesman kind of thing, and it was like, it's really good for mosquito repairs, but it's also sort of like a body oil. Oh it makes you smell nice and moisturizes and repels mosquitoes. 00:07:08 Speaker 3: That should be on store shelves. 00:07:10 Speaker 1: It probably is because. 00:07:11 Speaker 3: Bug spray smells horrible, horrible, always ends up in your mouth. Yeah, not for me. Lungs and lungs it's all over the place. 00:07:20 Speaker 1: And citronella candles, what are they really do? 00:07:22 Speaker 3: Simply nothing nothing. There's that one up there that's just been up there since I bought it. 00:07:26 Speaker 1: Essentially totally melts it into the canister. 00:07:29 Speaker 3: It has the sun has just completely demolished it and it doesn't matter because it wasn't working anyway. 00:07:35 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:07:35 Speaker 3: And then yeah, I. 00:07:37 Speaker 4: Have those little those little things that plug in or get charged by the sun. Like there's a zapper one and then there's one that emits like a diffuser. 00:07:46 Speaker 3: Yeah. Have you used either of those? 00:07:48 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:07:48 Speaker 3: Do they work? 00:07:49 Speaker 1: I don't really know. 00:07:51 Speaker 3: That's the thing. It's always hard to say. It's like, well, I still got bit, but what I've been bitten more if it weren't for the candle. 00:08:00 Speaker 1: Right, hmm. 00:08:01 Speaker 3: How are you filling your days these days? Yeah, it's an interesting time. 00:08:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird time. I have children. 00:08:11 Speaker 3: Oh that helps. 00:08:12 Speaker 1: So I am doing a lot of parenting right now. 00:08:15 Speaker 3: Are they Are they in school? 00:08:17 Speaker 1: They are? 00:08:18 Speaker 4: They just went back to school a couple of weeks ago. What I'm like do having lunches with people? It's so exciting. I'm like, I had a breakfast with a friend I hadn't seen in years. 00:08:29 Speaker 3: That's nice. 00:08:31 Speaker 4: Doing laundry, a lot of laundry, a lot of home care. 00:08:36 Speaker 3: This mirrors my reality outside of taking care of children. Yeah, I'm slowly learning that you can do laundry more than once every three weeks. 00:08:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, It piles up so fast in our house that if I don't do almost a load a day, I'm aft. 00:08:52 Speaker 3: A load a day. Yeah, that is a lot of laundry. 00:08:55 Speaker 1: It's a lot of laundry. 00:08:56 Speaker 4: Well, you got usually two sets of clothing every day, right, for four people. 00:09:02 Speaker 1: That's eight outfits. Wow, and that all the sock lights and darks. Yeah. 00:09:06 Speaker 3: Right, And then of course you're having sheets coming in and out, towels, yeah, once a day, and it's I guess it's really not that difficult. 00:09:14 Speaker 4: It's sometimes soothing, to be honest, right, the folding part of. 00:09:19 Speaker 3: It, the folding is the hardest part. 00:09:21 Speaker 4: I love folding, but I don't like the putting it away, right, So I'm. 00:09:26 Speaker 1: I'll fold all day. 00:09:28 Speaker 4: It's so soothing to make it into the perfect little tiny rectangle like Marie Condo style. 00:09:33 Speaker 3: Oh, it looks so good. 00:09:34 Speaker 1: It just so a folder. No, I just I am. I have great fingers, magic. 00:09:43 Speaker 4: I have magic folding fingers that should be licensed by the container store. 00:09:46 Speaker 1: But yeah, that part feels really good to me. 00:09:48 Speaker 4: And then I put it in a basket and then it just sits for days. I don't know if I think you put it away, I folded it. 00:09:57 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 00:09:59 Speaker 3: That come gather for me. I just leave it in the dryer for extent. The dryer kind of becomes the closet for a while, okay, but then so many things are wrinkled. 00:10:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't do a load unless you're gonna have time to fold, right, because otherwise it's it's gonna have. 00:10:20 Speaker 3: To do it to do it over or iron. 00:10:23 Speaker 4: No, no, who does that. My husband does because he has like work shirts. 00:10:28 Speaker 3: Oh, like dress shirts, this sort of thing. 00:10:30 Speaker 4: He'll break out the iron. It's I don't know where we got this ironing board, but it is like from the fifties. 00:10:36 Speaker 1: It is, honestly, it makes the same sound the bat made when you were lowered. It is so rusty, honestly. 00:10:44 Speaker 4: And our iron is we had a regular iron, but then he bought like he bought like an old iron. 00:10:51 Speaker 3: Okay, like it's a. 00:10:52 Speaker 4: New one, but it looks like an old one. Looks like it looks it looks like steel. 00:10:57 Speaker 3: Almost kind of stylish. 00:10:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's practical, like it's a really good iron anyway. 00:11:05 Speaker 3: But it's not like a white plastic no more of a probably a professionals iron. 00:11:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a professional grade iron. Yes, for sure. 00:11:15 Speaker 3: My ironing board makes the same screech. I hate opening it, I hate closing it. Yeah, there's nowhere to put it. 00:11:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, where do you keep yours? 00:11:23 Speaker 3: I keep it in our office closet, kind of just shoved in there. 00:11:28 Speaker 1: Are there other laundry implements or cleaning tools in. 00:11:31 Speaker 3: There in that closet. Note, and even the iron is in a different place in the house. 00:11:36 Speaker 1: Got it because the board won't fit there? 00:11:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, but the iron probably could fit in the same closet as the board, but for whatever reason, I've decided they should be in separate areas. 00:11:48 Speaker 4: Makes sense. But I mean, once you move it, your brain will take months. 00:11:53 Speaker 3: Oh I'll never learn again to reposition it. And only probably in the last year or so have I learned how to efficiently close the eye ironing board with a little lever at the back. 00:12:02 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, before on top of it serveboard style. 00:12:09 Speaker 3: It would just take me forever. I would have to flip it on its back, search the whole thing. There's this little just basically the little twig you have to push. Yeah, so easy, but it took me years to learn. 00:12:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you so you flip it over, put it on its which again it's like it has a cover on it, so then you're dirty and your cover by putting it on your floor, right, and then you press the thing, then it flattened. 00:12:29 Speaker 1: It's just all so. 00:12:32 Speaker 3: But to be clear, I'm no longer flipping it, just so people know, I'm at least at the point I'm not flipping it completely on its back anymore. 00:12:38 Speaker 1: You're not. 00:12:39 Speaker 3: I'm just reaching under and finding it. 00:12:41 Speaker 1: Oh excuse me. 00:12:43 Speaker 3: It is deeply erotic. I mean, that's part of. 00:12:46 Speaker 1: The problem, baker or what. 00:12:49 Speaker 3: I'm getting sweaty. The ironing board doesn't know what to say. We're both just like, is this the time for us? But yes, I'm now pretty good at it. 00:12:58 Speaker 1: Are you in a committed really we're. 00:13:00 Speaker 3: On again, off again. It's seeing each other probably once every a month, you know, And that's actually true. That's it, because I'll get to there'll be like one shirt I need iron and I'm like, this is the one I can't wear wrinkled. The rest of my shirts are like people don't care. They're not gonna notice one way or that they're a blazer. 00:13:18 Speaker 1: It's a slim fit. Right. You know, you were at the beech who cares right. 00:13:22 Speaker 3: Like a beachy look. Ye, we all like to kind of look kind of disheveled. 00:13:26 Speaker 1: Old off the beach, like coastal grammar or whatever. 00:13:29 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, coastal gramma is such a good look to go for. 00:13:33 Speaker 1: Beachy cottage, just layers, lasses, scars, just like a cocktail but also a coffee. I love it. I do love it. 00:13:43 Speaker 3: We're all Diane Keaton. In the end. 00:13:45 Speaker 4: It takes so much money, though, to to really get that look. You know. 00:13:50 Speaker 3: Every day, like if I go out to lunch with somebody, I'm like, I'm gonna look over dressed, and everyone's gonna know that I'm not as zillionaire. They're gonna know the moment I walk in that this person has your overdressed because I'm literally what I'm wearing right now. Yeah, it feels like I'm not rich. I'm like, not the rich person who can just wear whatever they want to brunch. I see you know where they've got their sunglasses and sweatpants on. Yeah, yeah, so much cooler than everyone there. 00:14:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, I mean, like, what what happened? Do you? 00:14:23 Speaker 1: Like? You couldn't put pants on? 00:14:25 Speaker 4: Like it's because they're just like don't give a fuck, Like, but that's rude to me, Like. 00:14:30 Speaker 3: It's rude to me. 00:14:31 Speaker 1: The care a little bit. 00:14:33 Speaker 4: I understand you're like running to get gas or like going to Smart and Final to get too much cereal or whatever. But like if you're if you're making the effort to go out to lunch, put on. 00:14:43 Speaker 3: Pants, put something on. 00:14:46 Speaker 1: Is it like matching? Sure? 00:14:48 Speaker 4: I buy that joggings like talking about ada as we say, like a greeting or something you love ADI does to you and your loved ones. 00:15:06 Speaker 3: I'm someone who will like I have to shower and put on clothes even before I go to a gas station or something. You are so that's a formal way to live, very formal, very formal. 00:15:17 Speaker 1: Is that like touches of OCD? Or is it just like. 00:15:21 Speaker 3: I don't know, I just I feel like I just can't leave the house until I feel clean. 00:15:25 Speaker 1: Oh clean. It's about cleanlinessness or something. 00:15:28 Speaker 3: It's very rare that I go somewhere. The only place essentially I'll go in pajamas or whatever is to buy a bagel sandwich, okay, and then you know I've ordered it online. I'm ready. You just rolling out and you know everyone there is going to be have just woken up. 00:15:44 Speaker 1: Anyway, right, what time of day is that? 00:15:47 Speaker 3: This is usually a Saturday or Sunday at about eight am. 00:15:50 Speaker 4: Okay on the earlier side, So those jogging pants people haven't even woken up yet. 00:15:54 Speaker 1: No, you're already ahead. It occurs. 00:15:56 Speaker 3: I'm four hours ahead of that. 00:15:57 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:15:58 Speaker 3: The people I'm seeing are dedicated. 00:16:02 Speaker 1: Dad. 00:16:03 Speaker 3: They're dedicated moms and dads. I mean the last time, a few months ago, I went and the line was so long. It was because everyone was buying Mother's Day brunch there. 00:16:11 Speaker 1: Which one is that? 00:16:12 Speaker 3: The one on your Bell's bagels? 00:16:14 Speaker 1: I've never had that one? 00:16:15 Speaker 3: Delicious? 00:16:16 Speaker 1: Okay, So it's that other bagel place that used to be at the Burger place? Is it the same one? It just moved over there. 00:16:22 Speaker 3: Is I think that's the same place because that's Goldburger, right, Yeah, great Hamburgers. They must be friends or something. Yeah, there's something. There's some cahoots going on there. 00:16:30 Speaker 1: I love a caot. I love a good cahot. 00:16:35 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's essentially me And I'm going to lunch today and I'm already just bracing myself for the location. Yeah, to make me feel uncomfortable and everyone there to be underdressed. 00:16:45 Speaker 1: Is it a fancy place all time? 00:16:47 Speaker 3: Do you know that place in Las Felis Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is good, but I think too expensive. 00:16:53 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:16:53 Speaker 4: I feel that way when I go to like a Little Dom's or something, because you know you're going to see people in the industry constantly. 00:17:01 Speaker 3: There are some real like there are some standards there that you're gonna see. Yeah, famous people that everyone has seen there. And how do you feel about the food of Little Doms? 00:17:11 Speaker 4: I like the ice cream affigato thing, oh, my favorite thing, and the rice balls. I don't mind their breakfast and their. 00:17:21 Speaker 1: Their coffee breakfast thing. I like to go there for breakfast yeah, yeah, for dinner dinner in a while. 00:17:27 Speaker 3: I always feel like this was fine, but the atmosphere is nice. And I got to see a celebrity. 00:17:32 Speaker 1: Yeah who have you seen who? 00:17:35 Speaker 3: John Ham? 00:17:37 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:17:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. 00:17:38 Speaker 3: I feel like is that something we can say on a p I feel like that's okay, we can say that. It feels like pretty public knowledge at this point, Hollywood. I feel like we revealed that what's his names at the skating center all the time, didn't we on a lace? 00:17:49 Speaker 1: Which one the one in Glendale. Yeah, light roller away. But now I had my child's birthday there. 00:17:55 Speaker 3: Oh, how was it? 00:17:56 Speaker 4: It was insane? So it was insane. I really bit off more than I could chew, and uh over underestimated how much people wanted to get to a roller rink, but they you you know, you pay by person, a person who's going to skate. And so it was my daughter's fifth birthday and she did not know how to roller skate, and neither did all thirty of her friends. But all the parents know how okay because they're all my generation and that's where we grew up, like you know, coming of sexual age or of course, of course everybody. 00:18:32 Speaker 1: Was like we can't off on whatever? What Debbie deb like out there? 00:18:37 Speaker 4: I was like I had made a playlist they played that specifically, soah was like play Frozen? 00:18:43 Speaker 1: What are you doing? And I'm like, this is it for you? But it was insane. 00:18:47 Speaker 4: Also, I had just had spinal surgery literally uh, literally five days prior to that. What and I had uh it was supposed to happen three weeks to that, but I had gotten a cold, and you know, you can't have spinal surgery if you can't breathe. 00:19:05 Speaker 3: Oh that makes sense. Okay, so fair. 00:19:08 Speaker 4: So I'm on heavy levels of Norco and there's two cakes. One cake was an ice cream cake. But we did not I mean again, we had to get so much food and sweet stuff because the amount people. Yeah, they have a snack bar, but then you're like paying per person. 00:19:29 Speaker 3: You know, control over it at that point. 00:19:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I had gotten the final guess. I mean, people were like, how could I help and I was. 00:19:35 Speaker 1: Like, no, like there's like forty gift bags. 00:19:39 Speaker 4: It was just so it was I had really bit off more than I could chew, especially given that I was under the influence of Norco. In five days out of a major outpatient surgery. 00:19:51 Speaker 3: Were you mobile? 00:19:52 Speaker 1: Totally mobile? I could wasn't able to drive myself. 00:19:56 Speaker 4: So Jessica was like, clear, my writing partner picked me up and drove me, which I appreciate it because my husband was was wrangling the kids. 00:20:04 Speaker 1: And then but then I did skate. 00:20:06 Speaker 3: Oh you were skatewording skate? 00:20:08 Speaker 1: What's wrong with me? 00:20:09 Speaker 4: No? 00:20:09 Speaker 1: I didn't. That was painful. Actually, I remember I went back. 00:20:12 Speaker 4: I had to go back later and get my skate on because, like I think, my spine surgeon said no fucking way. 00:20:20 Speaker 3: Right, I would hope. 00:20:21 Speaker 1: So, yeah, yeah, that's you can't do that. 00:20:23 Speaker 3: If your spinal surgeon is like, yeah, go for it. You know that they're looking for more money. They're like, let's get her back as possible. 00:20:30 Speaker 4: He also he also told me because I emailed to ask if it was okay if I took this job on curb your enthusiasm that was shooting, you know, like six weeks out from surgery. Uh huh, but I had to run on a treadmill. Oh and uh and again he was like, I mean he didn't say fucking because he's professional. He was like, that's that's not a good idea. Period Like that was the whole email. 00:20:57 Speaker 3: Were you able to take the job? Well, it kept getting pushed Oh incredible. 00:21:01 Speaker 1: Great. So it worked out, and I feel like. 00:21:03 Speaker 3: They probably could have faked it in some way, just had you kind of move your shoulders and done like a just a head sure. 00:21:10 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, So it ended up. I was full out. 00:21:15 Speaker 4: I'm also supposed to be pregnant, so I had on a pregnant belly and I was on a treadmill like running as fast as I possibly. 00:21:24 Speaker 1: It was great and funny. 00:21:26 Speaker 3: Scene yelling at Larry or something. Yeah. 00:21:28 Speaker 4: No, he was telling me that that that I was harming the feet is it's a good episode. 00:21:38 Speaker 3: I wonder if I've seen that. I haven't. I've I haven't seen Curbon such a long time that it's all gonna blurt together. But it's what season was. 00:21:46 Speaker 4: This not the last one, but the one before. I think it was like the first episode. It was a happy New Year episode. 00:21:52 Speaker 3: Oh this sounds familiar. 00:21:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:21:54 Speaker 4: So he we saw each other and I said Happy New Year. He goes, you can't say that, and I was like, well, what's the limit? He was like three. 00:22:02 Speaker 1: Days, oh, and of course two weeks. What are you talking about? 00:22:05 Speaker 4: And then we get on side by side treadmills and I tell him my midwife said it was fine if I exercise, and he was like, you're harming the fetus. 00:22:15 Speaker 1: And then later he sees. 00:22:17 Speaker 4: Me in a coffee shop drinking coffee and Gissie and evil Eye. And then later I'm in the hospital and he knocks me down going through the double doors. And also, my character's name was Randy. It's like for a woman to be named Randy. I mean, that's really all you need to know, right, She's definitely hidden Moonlight rollerway. 00:22:40 Speaker 3: The only I knew I had a friend Randy, who was a boy in elementary and middle school. And then the second Randy I learned of was a character on The Brady Bunch who was a girl. In my world was just shaken. It's like, Randy can be anybody. 00:22:54 Speaker 1: Anyone can be anybody. 00:22:56 Speaker 3: Anybody can be anybody. Yeah, I want to circle back to your playlist the Roller. What were some of the songs. 00:23:01 Speaker 4: On Some of them you can't play anymore? Oh yeah, honest, they've been canceled or like big you know, documentaries have come out. 00:23:11 Speaker 3: Oh okay, well. 00:23:12 Speaker 4: This is my childhood, right, this is my childhood everything music. Of course, So that playlist still exists on my on my iTunes because I am so such an old person that I have still purchased albums on iTunes. 00:23:25 Speaker 3: Still, yeah I should. Still I want to support the audience, totally encourage that. 00:23:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also like making a playlist on Spotify. I do do that as well. But like, what if you don't have intranets? You know? 00:23:37 Speaker 3: Oh I panic about that all the time. What if I even if I go like over the hill on Eagle Rock, I lose service for a minute. I'm like, yeah, I can't choose what song I'm listening to right now, and I hate that. Yeah, okay, so there was I can imagine who you're talking about. 00:23:50 Speaker 1: But it's heavy that it was heavy that. 00:23:54 Speaker 4: If I were playing my old roller skating playlist, there would have been like a bon Jovie song on sing that was my that was my fourth grade, like my first boyfriend. Uh huh, Kenny, not to be mistaken with Randy. Uh and yeah, our song was born to be My Baby? Which is Jovi? 00:24:13 Speaker 3: Is that like a ballad? 00:24:15 Speaker 1: No? 00:24:16 Speaker 3: Oh? How do I know this? 00:24:18 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:24:18 Speaker 3: I know living on a prayer? 00:24:20 Speaker 1: Yes, of course. Uh, you give love a bad name, right right? Yeah? 00:24:27 Speaker 3: But ye born to be my baby? 00:24:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I'm going to look up because I have a let me see if I have the actual playlist on here. 00:24:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very curious. I love roller skating music. I mean I when I think about roller skating music, I feel like I have Donna Summer. 00:24:41 Speaker 4: Oh interesting, you go disco Debbie Gibson. Okay, yeah, shake your love, never can't shake your. 00:24:49 Speaker 3: Love, Tiffany uh huh. But so now I'm very curious about what else you've got happening here. 00:24:56 Speaker 4: Okay, So the aforementioned artist opens it, and then there's also his childhood group. 00:25:03 Speaker 3: Oh sure, No, can we talk about that the difference? Can we? 00:25:07 Speaker 1: I feel like one is okay. 00:25:09 Speaker 3: I feel like Jackson five is okay. I can still listen to Jackson five. 00:25:13 Speaker 1: It's hard for me. 00:25:14 Speaker 3: Still, that's hard for you. I can't listen to Let's just we all know what we're talking about here. I can't listen to Michael Jackson anymore. Well, yeah I can. Probably there's one songs off of Off the Wall I can still kind of, but it's there's now just it's almost impossible. 00:25:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's my I think that's probably my favorite album. 00:25:32 Speaker 3: It's his best album by a million miles, I would say, yeah. 00:25:36 Speaker 4: Honestly, the whole thing makes me so sad. It used to be I put that Off the Wall album on and it would pump me up for anything. Literally, Now I put it on and I feel overwhelming. Said, and even with the Jackson five, like never Can't Say Goodbye, like a lot of those sweet songs like I just it's I can't. 00:25:59 Speaker 3: No, there's a giant shadow over all of them. 00:26:01 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:26:02 Speaker 3: So yeah, I've kind of just separated his solo work from the Jackson five in my mind, and I feel like these were the happy years. Well actually they weren't. There was actually there was a. 00:26:13 Speaker 4: Lot of abuse, a lot of parental abuse happening, for sure. 00:26:20 Speaker 3: So let's just forget any of it. 00:26:21 Speaker 1: Okay, that's not a good Okay. 00:26:24 Speaker 4: I've got love Shack Shoes, Celebration, cool in the gang. There's several cool in the gangs. I've got take on Me. I've got The Warrior by Patty Smith because that's a song that is my me and. 00:26:36 Speaker 1: My daughter's song. 00:26:37 Speaker 3: Oh that's so sweet. 00:26:38 Speaker 1: Gloria Stefan, Ghostbusters. 00:26:42 Speaker 3: That's what's his name, Ray something, Yeah, Ray Parker, June, Ray Parker Junior. That's right. 00:26:48 Speaker 4: But then you've also got some Beyonce, some uptown funk, some happy and footloose and stuff from the Trolls movie. 00:26:57 Speaker 3: You would be a roller rink teacher. 00:27:00 Speaker 4: I could push it, you know, classic classic. I can't wait, new Shoes. I mean, let the music play. We've got Huey Lewis there, we go Born, Yeah, bon Jovi's on there too, Bruno Mars. Anyway, it goes on and on and on and on honestly, and ends. 00:27:17 Speaker 1: With be Nice by the Black Eyed Peace? Do you know that? 00:27:20 Speaker 3: So I don't know. That's a very funny song. 00:27:21 Speaker 1: Okay, so the song song Land do you know that show? 00:27:25 Speaker 3: No, I'm not familiar. 00:27:26 Speaker 4: Okay, So this show I'm not allowed to be talking about AMPTP properties probably, But there was a show on and it's not on anymore called Songland or there were three like very famous producers, a country like a rock and an R and B producer and artists would come on and then six people would sing their original songs. Oh, and then the artists would narrow it down to three, and then they would get paired up with the producer and they would go away and work on the song, and then they would come back and present the new song to the artist. The artist would pick one and record it. 00:28:02 Speaker 3: Oh so evolved. 00:28:04 Speaker 4: He picked this song be Nice, which actually my husband and I love and my kids are like, stop playing it. 00:28:13 Speaker 3: So it's not that old of a show. 00:28:15 Speaker 1: Then, no recent recent I. 00:28:17 Speaker 3: Was imagining like a star search. 00:28:19 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, that was like a putting on the hits, Like, no, it was recent, it was recent hits. 00:28:25 Speaker 3: I've never heard of this what I love that name is that putting on the rints? 00:28:29 Speaker 1: Of course was a lip sync show. 00:28:32 Speaker 4: Oh, it was a lip sync show hosted by I want to say, the guy that played the Greatest American Hero, but I don't think that's right. 00:28:40 Speaker 1: Do you know that show? 00:28:41 Speaker 3: I'm not familiar. 00:28:41 Speaker 4: Okay, So that song, that song, uh oh my good look it was happening to me. 00:28:51 Speaker 3: That sounds familiar to believe the most. 00:28:53 Speaker 1: Sound Okay, anyway, I'll play that for you later. 00:29:00 Speaker 4: It was a lip sync show and it is stuck in my head because people would come on and do full like lip sync numbers. 00:29:07 Speaker 1: This is pre there Jimmy. 00:29:10 Speaker 4: Fallon and yes and pre Rue Paul or probably at the same time, always coming up in Atlanta. But there was one performance to Endless Love and a man dressed half of his body like Lionel Richie, okay, like like draw a line down the center of his face, and the other half Diana Ross. So when each of them were singing, he would turn and it started out and it was like you know, ma love and it's just leonel right, only you and my life, and then Martha's love and it would turn and it would be her and then. 00:29:47 Speaker 1: When they were singing ah, he would turn. 00:29:50 Speaker 3: Into the middle so you could see both of them. 00:29:53 Speaker 4: Terrifying, but I went, yeah, it was really inspiring. And there was another thing on there that like inspired Halloween costume that I had where I was Carmen Miranda on the top. Top of the bottom was a man carrying her on a chair on his back. 00:30:11 Speaker 1: That was seventh grade. Listen, it was these were fruitful years. 00:30:16 Speaker 3: That's such a great costume. I love those costumes where it's kind of an illusion, you know. I did like the I think at fourth grade, the headless person where you're holding your head. 00:30:26 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah. 00:30:27 Speaker 4: My son wants to do that this year, held be you know, like holding a head beside him. He's really into violence right now. 00:30:36 Speaker 1: So that's good. 00:30:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking from personal experience, I can say you get a lot. It's a buzz buzzy costume. People are talking about it. Oh yeah, they're thrilled that you're holding your head. So that's a good costume. Yeah, and I don't well, my parents probably put hours and hours of work into it. 00:30:50 Speaker 1: They made it for you. Yeah. 00:30:51 Speaker 3: I did nothing to help, but your. 00:30:54 Speaker 1: Head was the head right, And there was like another thing built up. 00:30:57 Speaker 3: There was like a bloody stump on the top. 00:31:00 Speaker 1: Like a headless horseman. Almost. 00:31:02 Speaker 3: So I was in a football jersey. I was a headless as far as I know football. Yeah, yeah, that's perfectly fun. It actually does. The NFL does not want you to hear about this. 00:31:12 Speaker 4: They don't want to talk about it. But we are here today. 00:31:17 Speaker 3: To talk about it. This is the new head issue in the NFL. It's completely completely decapitation. Decapitation, well, I mean speaking about things that no one wants to talk about. There's something you know that I've been a little upset about for the last half hours. Have we been talking, I've been see thing I've been. 00:31:38 Speaker 1: Seeing, keeping it under wraps. 00:31:41 Speaker 3: Look, I've been working on myself and I'm trying to just keep control. The podcast is called I said, no gifts. I'm so excited you were coming. 00:31:49 Speaker 1: Today and I'm so happy to be here. 00:31:51 Speaker 3: Just thrilled to have you. I thought we'll have a good time. I'll be able to go to the urgent. Care about my spider bite and my table perfect. Yeah, so it was a little surprised. It was a little thrown when you showed up in my backyard. Yeah, holding what I would describe as two gift looking objects. 00:32:14 Speaker 4: Well, this is just a little something, though, this is not an actual gift, just a little something. Okay, Okay, this one is a gift. But I will say this, you don't invite a Southern woman into your backyard and expect that she's not going to bring you a gift, whether or not you say has no. 00:32:34 Speaker 1: Meaning to her. 00:32:36 Speaker 4: It would go against everything that she's been raised to believe to be true about what a woman is if she were to walk in empty handed. So this is just a little something that we'll share, and this one. 00:32:52 Speaker 1: Is a gift, for sure. It's a gift. 00:32:54 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'm glad you've been honest. Should I open these here on the podcast? 00:33:00 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that that's probably good. 00:33:23 Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think that you've got the little something that you said? Let's open that first. It's get an adorable Santa Claus tin with a Santa Claus clauses being spooned by a reindeer that's on a sleigh. 00:33:39 Speaker 1: They're going down the hill on a yoga mat. It looks like, oh, it just looks like a yoga but it's not. 00:33:45 Speaker 4: There's no legs underneath the sleigh no legs, using his core, which I appreciate. 00:33:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. And it's nice to see the deer in the back for once, you know. 00:33:56 Speaker 4: Honestly, honestly, to see him fronting the ship for once. 00:34:01 Speaker 3: It's so damn a little break. This is the power of unions. Let me open. 00:34:07 Speaker 4: I don't know if you're gonna be able to do it with one hand. 00:34:09 Speaker 1: You can, you can do it. 00:34:11 Speaker 3: People to hear me struggle, That's what I was like. 00:34:15 Speaker 1: I was like, shut up, let him speak, let him speak. 00:34:20 Speaker 3: I smelled something immediately that. 00:34:22 Speaker 4: Smells wonderful, smells good. Are you allergic to anything? 00:34:25 Speaker 3: Nothing? Are you allergic to anything? 00:34:27 Speaker 1: There's a lot of food I don't like, but to. 00:34:30 Speaker 3: Get into that in a moment. But yeah, let's see what this is? Oh is this fudge? Did you make this? 00:34:36 Speaker 1: We made it last night? Hitting me and my chill? 00:34:39 Speaker 3: Okay, am I allowed to hand, of. 00:34:41 Speaker 4: Course, as long as you're not. I'm going to have one puts in it because I didn't know. 00:34:46 Speaker 1: Right, that's very but just be careful because it is quite delicious. 00:34:50 Speaker 3: Do you want one? You don't have to have no, I. 00:34:52 Speaker 1: I've had been having very It's it's really good. Oh how is it so good? You're well? It is filled with so many sugars and fats. 00:35:04 Speaker 3: Guys, tastes and is this your recipe? 00:35:07 Speaker 4: It is the recipe on the back of the magic fluff container, which is the recipe that my grandmother used to make. It's just that marshmallow fluff container and then you like follow it to now you have to like follow a QR code. But it used to be printed on the back of the marshmallow fluff thing, and it's just like seven ingredients. It's yeah. She used to make it for everything. And I actually made it in her pot. That one that uh, that's so sweet, the one that she uh that we that I took from her. 00:35:40 Speaker 3: I feel so rude just eating in front of you. 00:35:42 Speaker 1: Eat it, eat it. 00:35:43 Speaker 3: This is phenomenal. 00:35:44 Speaker 2: Eat it. 00:35:46 Speaker 3: Now there's an artist. We can all go. 00:35:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get a high tip. 00:35:51 Speaker 3: This is so good. So it's I imagine marshmallow fluff, sugar. 00:35:57 Speaker 1: No, just the white sugar, white sugar. 00:36:00 Speaker 3: Butter, yeah, margarine, margarine? Is that really rather than butter? 00:36:04 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:36:05 Speaker 3: Oh, how fascinating vanilla? Huh? How many ingredients have I got so far? Why do I care? 00:36:12 Speaker 4: I'm not sure it condensed milk, oh, okay, and then the semisweet chocolate, Oh delicious, And I. 00:36:19 Speaker 1: Did I did do gerrar delli. 00:36:21 Speaker 2: Oh. 00:36:21 Speaker 1: I think that that makes all the difference. 00:36:23 Speaker 3: That's the when I'm making cookies. That's the only chip I'll use at this point. 00:36:26 Speaker 1: Now, are you a baker. 00:36:28 Speaker 3: I am a baker. I've never made fudge before. 00:36:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very satisfying. 00:36:32 Speaker 4: Makes a big, like brownie size pan, right, and then you can just give it out as a gift or whatever. 00:36:38 Speaker 3: Is it difficult? 00:36:39 Speaker 1: No? 00:36:40 Speaker 3: Is it stressful? No, even though you're like having a stir on the st Yeah. 00:36:45 Speaker 1: You stir it until it boils, and then you stir for five minutes. 00:36:48 Speaker 3: Okay the heat, No, you keep the heat on, keep. 00:36:53 Speaker 4: It boiling five minutes and then turn off the heat. And then you mix in the chocolate, then the marshmallow, and then the vanilla. 00:37:02 Speaker 3: Oh fascinating. 00:37:03 Speaker 1: So it's the condensed milk, the sugar, and. 00:37:05 Speaker 4: The margarie margarine that are that are combining to begin with margarine. 00:37:09 Speaker 3: Did you already have margarine in your home? Or you had to go get margine? 00:37:12 Speaker 1: I had to go get all of us because. 00:37:14 Speaker 3: I don't feel like anyone just has margarine anymore. 00:37:16 Speaker 4: Not anymore, and it doesn't they won't say margarine on it. 00:37:19 Speaker 3: Oh what do they call it? Butterspread or something. 00:37:22 Speaker 4: It's like, well, this brand is Imperial, but I recognize that as the famous margarine. 00:37:28 Speaker 2: Right. 00:37:29 Speaker 4: But it's like it's vegetabil oil basically, so you could maybe I don't know if it's vegan. 00:37:36 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I wonder that feels like it would be vegan right. 00:37:39 Speaker 4: Probably they probably trying to get some kind of horse stuff into. 00:37:43 Speaker 3: It, margin horse teeth or something. 00:37:49 Speaker 1: Anyway, it's a decadent treat. 00:37:51 Speaker 3: It's so good. How often are you making treats around the house? 00:37:55 Speaker 4: I love to bake as well, you do, yes, So what are you bacon? I don't bake that often. I do love to do it, just like so much to clean up. And again we've established how much laundry. 00:38:05 Speaker 1: I'm doing your head, But yeah, I do love like everyone, so whim I'll do something like I want to make Queen a Mon's. You know which are these? 00:38:15 Speaker 2: Like? 00:38:15 Speaker 1: Do you know what those are? 00:38:16 Speaker 3: No? Idea? 00:38:17 Speaker 1: There are these. 00:38:18 Speaker 4: Really crazy layered pastries, like butter layered pastries that that you cover in sugar, and then bake in like they form up into this little muffiny kind of thing. 00:38:31 Speaker 1: They have them at Sibyl. 00:38:33 Speaker 3: It's almost like a what were those the fad cruffins? That's like a croissant muffin. 00:38:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're way better than that. And how do you spell that queen amn? I think it starts with a k O k o U I G N and am on. 00:38:53 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a m oh okay a n yeah, something like that. 00:38:59 Speaker 1: I don't I think it's French. 00:39:00 Speaker 3: It sounds like queena'm on. 00:39:02 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like it though. 00:39:03 Speaker 3: So you make those? Are you ever making a cocaine? 00:39:07 Speaker 4: I'll like I make I like to make a cake or a yeah, like on a birthday, I'll make my my mom her favorite cake, like caramel cake. This year I ordered one from gold Belly. Oh, it came all the way from like South Carolina or something. 00:39:21 Speaker 3: Was it worth it? It was worth it. 00:39:23 Speaker 4: Caramel cake is really I've never had hard to make. It's a real Southern thing. The caramels almost like this consistency, like it turns into like a kind of a fudge but it's caramel, but it's delicious. 00:39:38 Speaker 3: And then just like white cake or something. Yeah, Southerners love just a purely like unbelievable sweet dessert. 00:39:46 Speaker 4: Absolutely. We had banana pudding the other night. That's another one of my faves. Banana pudding. 00:39:50 Speaker 3: Nana pudding I love, but I can eat about three spoonfuls. 00:39:54 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:39:54 Speaker 3: I've been trying to formulate in my mind, like a banana pudding with peanut butter or something to make it slightly salty. 00:40:00 Speaker 1: That's like a banafi? Do you know? Do you know this like a British thing? I only know that because of the great British making treat. 00:40:07 Speaker 3: And I don't what is banafi? 00:40:10 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like banana top coffee, yeah, peanut, maybe peanut butter or something? 00:40:16 Speaker 3: Right? 00:40:17 Speaker 1: Right, you know banana? Do you I just eat a banana peanut butter sandwich. 00:40:21 Speaker 3: Oh, that sounds delicious. 00:40:22 Speaker 1: I don't think I've a bit of honey. 00:40:24 Speaker 3: Interesting. I've ever put a banana in a sandwich with peanut butter, but I've had the combination. It's very good combination, and it's a healthy latch perfectly use like four or five slices of bread. Yeah and yes, okay, so you made this fudge? What gave you the idea you just wanted to bring a treat. 00:40:44 Speaker 1: I wanted I was thinking about. 00:40:47 Speaker 4: Okay, so when I give a gift, generally speaking, I'm thinking about the other person, not myself. And I don't know you that well, and I don't know, but I always know that something akin to this is going to go overwell because it shows effort. 00:41:04 Speaker 3: And like believable amount of it, you know, and like. 00:41:08 Speaker 4: A level of thoughtfulness, which I appreciate in a gift. And also I think it touches on like my southern heritage. And then I also get to like make it with my kids, which is always a treat. And then also my I think about my grandmother who used to make this. 00:41:26 Speaker 1: Oh that's so lovely, and so you know, everyone wins. 00:41:29 Speaker 3: What state are you from? 00:41:30 Speaker 1: I grew up in Georgia, Georgia? 00:41:32 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, they love a fudge and a. 00:41:35 Speaker 1: Oh they love a fudge. 00:41:36 Speaker 3: And does your mom now live here? 00:41:38 Speaker 1: Both my parents live in Altadena now. 00:41:40 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, so you do have to kind of fly in desserts on occasion to make them. It's kind of authentically Southern. Do your kids enjoy What grades are they in? First and fifth Okay, so they still enjoy like doing crafts with mom, that kind of thing. 00:41:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, baking is an interesting one because it all starts out a nightmare, like they're arguing over which who gets to do which one, you know, but then it starts to even out and we like hit this sweet spot. And my husband says he like he'll he just loves to listen to us as we're talking, and I'm like, oh, you know, and I'm like helping him learn how to stir correctly or like praising her for, you know, being gentle with the eggs, like, you know. 00:42:29 Speaker 1: I really like to do it when I do it. 00:42:31 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, that's a nice background noise. I yeah, I feel like I can only make cookies. I think I might just have to all occasionally make a brownie. 00:42:41 Speaker 1: But brownies are great. 00:42:43 Speaker 3: Brownies are great, but they feel like one step too far all the time, where it's like I had to do one extra thing, not even. 00:42:48 Speaker 1: Just buy a mix though I certain boxes are knocked out of the park. 00:42:53 Speaker 4: You know, we made a chocolate cake from Whole foods uh huh, because we were near I don't care for Whole food. 00:43:00 Speaker 1: I'll just say that out loud. Tear it. 00:43:02 Speaker 4: I don't like the experience of being in a being in there. But anyway, we were nearby and we needed to make a chocolate cake because my daughter wanted to make a chocolate cake for my birthday. 00:43:15 Speaker 3: Oh is that right? 00:43:16 Speaker 4: Or for Mother's Day or something. Anyway, our anniversary, that's what it was. And so we bought. We just bought. I was like, how can I make this as easy for me as possible? So we just bought the regular chocolate. 00:43:27 Speaker 3: Cake mix, like they're like a store brand. 00:43:30 Speaker 4: Sixty sixty right, and then the icing mix, and then we use salted butter instead of regular butter, and so it was like a salted chocolate oh frosty, and it was one of the best cakes I've ever had in my life. 00:43:44 Speaker 3: Mixes, brownie mixes I have bo a recent convert to, and I'll use just that you get like a slightly nicer brownie mix. They're so good. And I've been told that if you use coffee instead of water, it'll taste better. There are all these little tricks people have learned. Some maybe yeah, I just need to lean on that more or something. 00:44:01 Speaker 1: You can use a pre mix, yeah, I would. 00:44:03 Speaker 3: I would never use a pre mix for a cookie. Never I feel like that that doesn't make any sense. 00:44:08 Speaker 1: At all to Yeah, that's probably true. 00:44:10 Speaker 3: But a brownie and a cake, I think. 00:44:13 Speaker 1: But I've never made a cake in your whole life. 00:44:16 Speaker 3: I don't think in my entire life, I've never baked a cake. My mom did a lot of baking, and she would bake cakes. But do you have it? 00:44:23 Speaker 1: Do you like cake? 00:44:24 Speaker 3: Cake? 00:44:25 Speaker 2: For me? 00:44:26 Speaker 1: Tell me? 00:44:27 Speaker 3: Is a giant commitment. With a cookie, I can eat one and then I can like kind of judge how many more I want to eat it? With cake? I'm like, I now have a little project, and if it's not incredible, I'm just doing a boring thing through this entire slice of cake. What about you? Do you like a cake? 00:44:48 Speaker 1: Specific cakes? 00:44:49 Speaker 3: Okay? Such a car? Yeah right? I have you been to quarter Sheets and Echo Park the pizza place? 00:44:56 Speaker 1: Uh uh? 00:44:57 Speaker 3: They have something called a princess cake. 00:45:00 Speaker 4: That is I already don't like it. Okay, tell me more. Wait, no, this is the one I've had it. It's like it's not like a thousand crape layers. 00:45:10 Speaker 3: Or whatever with the with the oh that sounds good? 00:45:13 Speaker 1: Is that that's not it? 00:45:14 Speaker 3: It's a few layers. It's like white cake okay, then raspberry stuff and then kareema, then cake yeah, and then it has like a what's the mars pan shell on it. It's beautiful and I'm not crazy about a really sweet thing, but this I really like, you like it. 00:45:32 Speaker 4: I don't want to shit on it, but I like mars Apan to me is it just is always too much right. 00:45:40 Speaker 3: Right, sugar paste, mars forget. 00:45:44 Speaker 1: It, forget about it. 00:45:46 Speaker 4: Decorative at the very least, I guess if it's all over the edge and the outside of the cake makes it look so beautiful and this is very thin, sure, but also put fruit in a cake. I'm out, you're out like a strawberry. 00:45:57 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like at all the work parties they do like a strawberry cream cake because they think everybody's gonna like love how deca it it is. And I'm like, I'm out, I'm out. 00:46:08 Speaker 4: Like, give me a red velvet, give me like a you know, something that is in the like fried green tomatoes, cookboat, you know what I mean, Like give me that completely. 00:46:17 Speaker 3: I mean I need I almost always need chocolate. Otherwise I'm like, okay, this is a C plus at best. Yeah, if it's not a chocolate dessert. But this princess cake, for whatever reason. 00:46:28 Speaker 1: Has checks your boxing. 00:46:30 Speaker 3: Nice to look at love whipped cream. Yeah, but I'm basically on the same page with you as fruit. But I also don't like a birthday cake cake? Is that what those are called? The ones that the sprinkles, the colorful stuff in them. 00:46:43 Speaker 1: Like the milk bar or whatever, like those cakes? 00:46:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy about that thing. 00:46:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, that woman is a genius though. 00:46:49 Speaker 3: She's really kind of a mad scientist. Yeah. 00:46:52 Speaker 4: I watched her like Chef's Table me too. Yeah, I love that show, but I can only watch it. I can only take it for so long before and then I'm like. 00:47:01 Speaker 1: We're going to bout a fucking what's happening? 00:47:05 Speaker 3: People can eat this ram nobody's allowed to eat this. 00:47:10 Speaker 4: But but she seemed accessible and like I recognized her, like the way she was raised and the women that raised her. And I was like, this is incredible that she's like putting like the flavor of cereal milk, which I don't like that flavor, but like, wow, into something, you know, like the ice cream. 00:47:31 Speaker 1: Have you ever tasted it? 00:47:33 Speaker 4: It is not called this anymore, but it's called crack pie. It's one of the best things ever known to man. They call it the milk bar pie now and they will also. 00:47:40 Speaker 1: Ship it to you. 00:47:41 Speaker 3: But there's one. 00:47:42 Speaker 4: There's one in Mals. Yeah, they used to have. My husband and I. They would set up shop at the Union Square Farmer's market, like the Holiday Village York, and we would go and you could buy a slice of it and just like put it in your hand and just eat it off your hand. 00:47:59 Speaker 3: It's uh, it's such a perfect combination of flight. 00:48:02 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 00:48:04 Speaker 3: This must have been before they really expanded. 00:48:07 Speaker 1: I think so. 00:48:08 Speaker 4: I don't think she had her own shop yet. She was a pastry chef at Momofuku and then maybe she had opened one of her shops or something or was doing I don't know. I don't really know her whole whole story. 00:48:21 Speaker 1: But I do know a lot of it. Surprising. 00:48:25 Speaker 3: You've kind of interacted with her at the beginning of her career journey. Yeah, it was so episode of TV about her. 00:48:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get her newsletter. I do. I signed up for it. I wanted to support her. 00:48:40 Speaker 3: What is her newsletter? Is it like a substick it? 00:48:43 Speaker 1: No, you sign up and it comes into your email. Yeah, not I mean, you don't go to somewhere to see it, or there might be recipes. I haven't read it in a while, but yeah, okay, yeah. 00:48:57 Speaker 3: Well I think we should open the gift. I think we should see what's happening there. Let me close the fudge for a minute. This is just unbelievable. Okay, Now this gift isn't a beautiful uh like orange orange rap their little pictures right, very California, and it's just too bridger from Lenen, very sweet. Okay, I'm going to open it up. Oh this is well wrapped. I like, look how satisfying that is to open? Yeah, almost clicks. 00:49:30 Speaker 4: This is rapping, is I know it's what is so wasteful, but it's it makes it. 00:49:35 Speaker 1: It takes it to the next so. 00:49:37 Speaker 3: Much unless I'm doing it and then it's directing and feel Okay, I'm pulling it out. 00:49:45 Speaker 1: It might be hard because it's got the coil there you go. 00:49:49 Speaker 3: Oh wait, is this a it's a music book standards all one hundred All Time Favorites, Yes, with songs like Ain't Misbehavior, blue Berry Hill, A Foggy Day, I Left my Heart in San Francisco. 00:50:04 Speaker 1: This one is my favorite one. Where is it? 00:50:07 Speaker 3: Don't cry out loud? 00:50:08 Speaker 1: Do you know that? 00:50:09 Speaker 3: Yeah? Of course? Ok, Wow, it's I mean this is like this is probably forty years old or something. 00:50:16 Speaker 1: Who knows how old it is. 00:50:17 Speaker 3: It's a really beautiful piano, vocal and guitar. 00:50:20 Speaker 1: Do you play oriental lessons. 00:50:23 Speaker 3: For from kindergarten till about ninth grade? 00:50:26 Speaker 1: And do you still play or pluck around? 00:50:28 Speaker 3: Hi? Fuck around? Yeah. My boyfriend actually knows how to play the piano. 00:50:32 Speaker 1: He does. Yes, I'm coming over, coming over. 00:50:37 Speaker 3: Do you have a piano? 00:50:38 Speaker 1: We don't. 00:50:39 Speaker 3: It's a nice I think it's a nice thing to have, even if you don't play the piano, because I'll go over there. Well, it's nice for the person playing it, because I imagine when I'm playing, other people are like, well you don't know how to play, so stop. But yeah, I took lessons for a long time and I can still form a chord. Yeah, and I know which keys go together essentially. That's helpful though enough. 00:51:01 Speaker 1: But I can't. 00:51:02 Speaker 3: I'm not I can't do both hands anymore. I'm not super skilled. 00:51:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:51:07 Speaker 3: Do you did you take lessons or anything like this? 00:51:09 Speaker 4: I played the drums growing up. I played like I started just with snare and then did that all through middle started to do also like other percussion like timpany and chimes and glockenspiel and all that jazz, and then I marched snare all through high school and also played in the Symphonic band percussion. 00:51:31 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:51:31 Speaker 4: But I also loved to sing, although. 00:51:36 Speaker 1: I'm not I've never been paid for it. 00:51:39 Speaker 4: But I love I'm like so good at karaoke, and I loved to sing in the car. And then also I goofed with the guitar, but I'm still like very like it's very like herky jerky and probably not satisfying. 00:51:55 Speaker 3: Yeah that's me with the guitar, right, I can basically remember three ish chords. Not even with those, I can barely get to them. And yeah, so it ends up just being kind of a waste of time. Did you ever play in like a rock band. 00:52:09 Speaker 4: No, I did like a jazz ensemble a couple times on set, Like that's not too difficult to like to transition from like playing snare to playing like jazz set because it's very just straightforward, you know. Yeah, But I did do some set work, like I was trying to like do samba and some other stuff, and it just it's so it's like a whole new part of your brain to be able to do the bass drum, the high hat, the to you know that, all the. 00:52:41 Speaker 1: Other drums, the symbol. It just it it takes a lot of a lot of work. 00:52:47 Speaker 3: You're I mean, you're using it feels like every part of your brain to get your hands to move it and your feet to move it. 00:52:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all at the same time. 00:52:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's difficult, but it feels good, but it's difficult. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: A favorite drummer, you know. 00:53:04 Speaker 1: There's a woman named Evelyn Glennie. 00:53:06 Speaker 4: Okay, she's Irish and she's deaf, wow, and she's one of the like pre eminent percussionists in the world. And her albums are insane and she like plays with all kinds of instruments and sounds and now she looks like a witch, Like her hair is like white, and she's just if you ever see like a video of her or something, you're just like, what is happening? 00:53:32 Speaker 1: Like, But it's really, I. 00:53:33 Speaker 4: Mean, I down of course I paid for myth like I think I bought CDs of hers or something, you know, and then uploaded them onto my computer at some point to save them, put them in a binder. 00:53:49 Speaker 1: But yeah, I would say her. 00:53:51 Speaker 4: I'm not like there's certain like riffs, like drum riffs that I like love to like play along within the car, like Green Day. 00:54:01 Speaker 1: Do you have the time right right? 00:54:04 Speaker 4: Like that's the best to like fake air drum really impressive makeup and hair trailer. 00:54:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, air drumming it's so much. 00:54:15 Speaker 3: Even if you don't know how twist the you do the twisting, yeah, like. 00:54:20 Speaker 4: Roll the sticks in your hand like that and then you can like throw it up and catch it at the right time. 00:54:25 Speaker 1: It's just so satisfying. 00:54:27 Speaker 3: That feels like you should be doing that on TikTok or something that could be really terrified as am I, but I feel like I've just given you a real good You've given it to you could become TikTok lenin drumming Lennon. 00:54:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, come up with a better name. 00:54:43 Speaker 3: No, that's that's catchy. We've workedhop that before the podcast. Actually, I was just thinking, we've what are your karaoke go tos? 00:54:55 Speaker 1: It just depends on the room. 00:54:57 Speaker 4: I have again a playlist of songs that sing long songs that I can draw on, like my friend Michael and I used to go in New York, just the two of us to do karaoke, or sometimes I would just go by myself into a like a room because during the day it's like four dollars an hour and just sing until my heart's content wonder or he and I would go and do like Broadway duets, you know, which was wonderful, and then take turns. I love there's like some Martina McBride songs like carry Whatever you Say is a good one, Broken Wing is a good one, or like Reba Fancy that usually brings the house down. Some Dixie Chicks obviously, what else Pat Bedeitar hit Me with Your Best Shop. 00:55:44 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's got to be one of the all time most popular karaoke songs. 00:55:49 Speaker 1: Yeah probably. 00:55:50 Speaker 4: I like also now this is only for me. This would not be really, this would be torture, but that would be Bonnie Raids I Can't Make You Love Me. It's so it's the one of the hardest songs to sing, but it's like right, it sits right there in my alto range, and I love it. I also do like a bunch of like I like Chess the musical. I like a lot of musical but chess. You know chess, No chess? 00:56:22 Speaker 1: Okay. It was written by the by the abbi. 00:56:26 Speaker 4: Guys, Oh no way, and it came out I think in the eighties. So that song one Night in bunkok is from that musical. 00:56:33 Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know this, and we. 00:56:34 Speaker 4: Did it in college, so I was like made aware of it. And the woman who is like the advisor to the American chess player, Florence, is such a badass, and and then she switches teams and falls in love with the Russian. 00:56:50 Speaker 3: Oh of course. 00:56:50 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:56:51 Speaker 4: So there's some amazing ballads and the song I used to sing for auditions, Heaven Help my Heart. And then someone Else's story is an amazing song. Nobody's on Nobody's side. And then the two women duet. I know him so well. So if you get this will like kill everyone. If you find another woman who knows the song, like my friend Resa Sangery in New York, who was on my very first improv team, we will sing wasn't it good? 00:57:20 Speaker 1: Oh? So good? 00:57:22 Speaker 4: We do it in harmony, and it's just like everybody's losing their mind floored. 00:57:26 Speaker 3: Just I need to hear these. I mean, this sounds like roller skating music to me. 00:57:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. 00:57:32 Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, I would love to do a chess themed roller skating party. 00:57:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, how yeah, I guess that one night in Bangkok really kind of just became its own thing. It did. Yeah, and it's such a weird, almost uncomfortable piece of music to listen to. 00:57:49 Speaker 1: Well, it's terrible, really right, Yeah, I think so, like so many of those songs in the mid eighties, just like things let's take this culture, thank you very much to a legit. I just listened to that song. 00:58:04 Speaker 4: Well, I was I was like, have you guys ever heard I was going to play Birdhouse and Your Soul okay for my kids because I'm in that place where I'm like, oh, they've never heard this song. This is so exciting. I get to share this and then they're like hmmm. But I was playing Maxwell's Silver Hammer, which is a Beatles song. So my dad used to play the guitar and I would sing that song and I loved that song. It's my favorite song. It's so dark and weird and we're playing it in the car and it's literally a serial It's about a serial killer killing people with his hammer, killing people with his hammer. The first girl is a girl on a date. What The second girl is a girl on the study group. The third is the or the teacher. The third one is the woman who is the judge for his trial. During his trial. 00:58:53 Speaker 3: He kills the judge. He cuss why did they let the hammer into court? 00:58:56 Speaker 1: Exactly? I don't know. That doesn't make sense. 00:59:00 Speaker 3: It's many things about this, And. 00:59:02 Speaker 4: So I was like, we're driving there, and Soyah was like, what why did they make this song? 00:59:08 Speaker 1: Ma? And I was like and Kyle was like, I love this And I was like, oh no, what have I done? Anyway? 00:59:15 Speaker 3: That's amazing. I mean I've never picked up on that with that song, I guess I've just never listened to it that closely. It's such a jaunty piece of music. Wow, I need to revisit now. 00:59:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the words, let them speak. 00:59:28 Speaker 3: You know, I've got to learn to play one of these songs in here. I'm gonna I mean I used to have to memorize one song every year for piano recital. Yeah, and it's been a long time. 00:59:37 Speaker 1: Since they like classical or what were you? 00:59:41 Speaker 3: They were all over the place. I think my very first one in kindergarten was the Mickey Mouse Club theme song. Okay, and then we started, like you start to get interested, so like I would play these songs from the Disney animated movies, like from the Lion King or whatever. Yeah, and then kind of my most famous moment was I think it's sixth or seventh grade. I played I'll Be There for You from Friends the Friends, which. 01:00:06 Speaker 4: I'm suretioning you into the life that you live right now. 01:00:10 Speaker 3: Yes, professional theme song player, And I think that was kind of the end of my piano playing journey. That's what I really started to be. You peaked, I peaked. I could Where could I go from there? I could only embarrass myself rap. 01:00:26 Speaker 1: In the middle of it. 01:00:27 Speaker 3: I should have my teacher totally dropped the ball. Can you imagine a sixth grader? 01:00:38 Speaker 1: I love that. I would love that. 01:00:41 Speaker 3: I want to see. Okay, well, I'm gonna learn to play one of these. Yeah, maybe I'll learned to play Don't cry out loud? 01:00:50 Speaker 1: Oh, I would love it. 01:00:51 Speaker 4: Let me know so I can come over and I'm going to have a little in alphabetical order. 01:00:57 Speaker 3: Gone with the wind of someone. What's that despano Okay? 01:01:04 Speaker 1: Not written by someone with a Latin last name. 01:01:09 Speaker 3: Oh, there we go again. 01:01:10 Speaker 1: I don't want to set the world on fire. Here's that? 01:01:13 Speaker 4: Okay, so these are these are chances? Are we got to know that one? 01:01:17 Speaker 3: Right, I'll get by as long as I have you. 01:01:20 Speaker 1: I'm going to look in the glossary. Gotta be right. 01:01:23 Speaker 4: There we go Whens sixty six the very end. My mother is a therapist. And whenever this came on, the choruses, don't cry out loud, right right, keep it inside. Learn how to hide your feelings. 01:01:41 Speaker 3: This is what therapists always tell me. 01:01:42 Speaker 1: So my mom would go, well, that's not a good idea. I'll kill you anyway. I don't. I don't even know if I know the lyrics. I mean the verse anyway. 01:01:56 Speaker 3: I wonder what the what are we talking about with the verse? Let's see baby cry the day the circus came to town. Okay, that tracks because she didn't like parades just passing by her. Okay, well this is. 01:02:10 Speaker 1: Well, she has an affair with a clown, and she danced without a net on the wire. 01:02:16 Speaker 3: She became like an acrobat that was having an affair with a clown. Wow, I know a lot about uh, because you see baby, and then we kind of get to the universal chorus that everyone can relate to. 01:02:28 Speaker 4: This is the original baby though, Baby, don't you know? Don't put baby in the corner exactly, This is the original. 01:02:34 Speaker 3: Who would have thought that this was about a circus performer? 01:02:36 Speaker 1: And if you should fall, remember you almost had it all. Now this is a real full circle moment though, because that you. 01:02:45 Speaker 3: Almost this is perfect. 01:02:46 Speaker 1: This is you almost fell to your dead. 01:02:48 Speaker 3: You were so worried. I was terrified, My team was worried. The crew on the set was worried. 01:02:56 Speaker 1: Fly high and proud. 01:03:00 Speaker 3: And here I come on my back. 01:03:03 Speaker 1: Remember you all both hot. 01:03:10 Speaker 3: Wow, it's a beautiful song. And I'm gonna at least learn to play the right hand on the piano. Whether I'll be able to form the chords at the same time. But you really do just want the vocal melody. That's really anybody thinks about when you're listening to the piano at the piano recital or whatever. Maybe I'll add some collaps to that at the friends collapse. 01:03:30 Speaker 1: Don't cry out? 01:03:33 Speaker 3: Wow, Well, I think we should play a game. Okay, Yes, I need a number between one and ten from you. 01:03:40 Speaker 1: Seven. 01:03:40 Speaker 3: Okay, I need the number to do some light calculating. I have to get our game pieces. So right now, you can recommend something, promote something obviously not. 01:03:49 Speaker 1: The televisionthing that I've been doing. 01:03:52 Speaker 3: Or promote yourself in general. Do whatever you want. 01:03:55 Speaker 1: I'll be right back. 01:03:56 Speaker 4: Okay, Hey, everybody, it's Lennon. You can follow me on all the social media's at lenin Parum. You can follow my playlists on Spotify, where they're mostly light favorites, Rot yak, Rot, Nope, yacht rock. 01:04:15 Speaker 1: Et cetera. 01:04:17 Speaker 4: You can listen to old podcasts that I did called wamp it Up. You can buy my friend Dan O'Brien's three books that just came out. Those are beautiful, beautiful writings. 01:04:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, perfectly used time considering the circumstances of not being able to talk about. Hopefully by now the strike. At the release of this episode, the strike will be over. Otherwise, I mean, I think it really just. 01:04:41 Speaker 1: Come out in twenty twenty seven. That's what I'm feels like it at this point. 01:04:47 Speaker 3: We hate what these producers are doing, everybody. They've just got to pull it together. What could I recommend? That's something I've enjoyed recently. I read a book called The Blunderer by Patricia high Smith. I feel like a story about someone getting in a bind. This is a good, good book. Guy really gets himself in a quite. 01:05:08 Speaker 4: A bind, like makes bad choices and then ends up making more bad and. 01:05:16 Speaker 3: Bad choice that really blows up in his face. And then you watch him continue to make bad choices. So that's kind of fun. And you know, Patricia high Smith wrote Carol, she wrote, talented, mister Ripley. So you're in good hands there. I feel like I'm just recommending it right now solely to you and not the listener just trying to sell you on this book. 01:05:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm into it. 01:05:38 Speaker 3: Okay, this is how we play gift master. I'm gonna name I'm going to tell you three gifts. Yes, and I'm going to tell you three celebrities, famous people. And you're gonna tell me which gift you'll give, which celebrity and why. Okay, Okay, the gifts you'll be giving today are number one. This is from a listener suggestion. Someone named Eden suggested a lifetime subscription to Consumer Report, which is actually I feel like a valuable gift. 01:06:03 Speaker 1: The printed magazine or or like the subscription service. 01:06:06 Speaker 3: Where you get like the website, I bet you get, I bet you get web print all of it. That seems to be the way it goes Lifetime A Lifetime. Number two is a dinner with Blake Shelton. Oh so that's number three is TMJ. So that's some some jaw problem, you know. 01:06:31 Speaker 1: When you're going giving someone TMJ. 01:06:34 Speaker 3: It's an experience, okay, and. 01:06:36 Speaker 1: DMJ experience doleby sound okay. 01:06:43 Speaker 3: The three people you're giving them too are Number one, John David Washington, son of Denzel Uh is now really up and coming. He's got all sorts of movies. What was the last thing I saw him? Man? 01:06:54 Speaker 4: The movie was in DAYA probably where the two people. They filmed it during the pandemic. How exciting, the two of them in a house in Seattle Island and it was dark. I didn't see it, but you're familiar. Yeah, I'm familiar with that trailer. I should look him up. Let me look him up. Good looking man, okay, good actor hansom. 01:07:18 Speaker 3: While you're looking him up. Number two is Olivia Rodrigo, really of at the moment, and number three is Aida Totro, who is cousin. 01:07:29 Speaker 1: Of John Totorro played the sister. 01:07:31 Speaker 3: Janis on Sopranos, one of my favorite TV characters. Ever, however, she's. 01:07:37 Speaker 4: Being in a bind. Okay, John Toturo, No, John David Washington. 01:07:45 Speaker 1: Oh there he is, Okay, professional football player. 01:07:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, I learned that recently that I think me at more House for a little while he was playing football, and I's made a transition to another career that makes a lot of money. And then he's the son of Denzel, so he's got nothing to worry about. But I always do appreciate when he's in a movie. 01:08:05 Speaker 4: Okay, TMJ, Lifetime Consumer Reports and Dinner. Okay, Uh, I'm going to give the TMJ right away. I'm going to give that to Olivia now. Why she's never seen hardship from what I can tell, and this is going to give her a lot to work with, a lot to write about, and she'll have to translate it into something that I guess tweens will connect with, you know, the universal pain of whatever the specifics of it will be a. 01:08:46 Speaker 1: Challenge for her, I think, to write about. 01:08:50 Speaker 4: But I just feel like, you know, it's at this point after coming up through the Disney system, knowing incredible start prior to her Saturn returns. It'll just be a moment that that will help her transform and mature into the woman that we all can't wait. Yeah, what will she be coming down from the sky in at her sellout stadium tours? 01:09:23 Speaker 3: You know, maybe like a giant mouthguard, just like lying. 01:09:29 Speaker 1: Okay, pitch, pitch for you. So we'll ice it. 01:09:34 Speaker 4: Well, it'll be the shape of a mouthguard, right the teeth, like a tooth tray. We're gonna fill it with water, ice it, and then we're gonna do dancing and ice skating on top of it. We can throw back and we can do you know how Beyonce does the water work in the like tea at at her last concert, she had water work. 01:09:54 Speaker 3: Do you know? 01:09:55 Speaker 1: It was like dancing in the rain, and she's right right, and we've. 01:10:00 Speaker 4: Seen Taylor recently do that just with God's elements right so in Nashville. But yeah, so that's why I think that that's perfect. 01:10:10 Speaker 3: That's absolutely perfect. 01:10:11 Speaker 4: Okay, I eat it, toturo. I'm gonna give the consumer reports. It just feels like it really truly would be the perfect gift for her, like just something to complain about, you know, a place to constantly. 01:10:28 Speaker 1: Find things wrong with things and be able to vent. 01:10:33 Speaker 4: Doesn't she seem like the person who would like write a great like paragraph like this is bullshit. 01:10:39 Speaker 3: I would love Jennie Frano to be doing consumers. 01:10:43 Speaker 1: This is bullshit. This iron I can't even do. I push, I push. 01:10:47 Speaker 3: On the tiny little thing with my meddle finger, and it squeaks. 01:10:50 Speaker 4: And wakes up my husband, and I gotta get him a beer, you know, like this whole thing. Right, So maybe she does that and then has like a career change. 01:10:59 Speaker 1: I don't know. 01:11:00 Speaker 4: I just I feel like it would give her a lot of AMMO for her life, a place to vent during the strike, you know, while she's not working, and just uh, maybe some struggles with the internet, trying to figure out how to set up her subscription and try to cancel the print magazine or like forward it to a friend, like all of that would give. 01:11:21 Speaker 1: Her a lot of AMMO. 01:11:22 Speaker 3: Busy work, yeah, busy, something to do with her hands, yes, exactly. 01:11:26 Speaker 4: We all need to find our own fingers truth, right, Okay, And then John David Washington will be sitting down for dinner with Blake Shelton. Mister Blake Shelton, I feel like that would be quite the conversation, right. 01:11:44 Speaker 3: What would they have possibly to talk about? 01:11:46 Speaker 1: I don't I mean, I don't know. 01:11:49 Speaker 3: I can't imagine sitting at dinner with Blake Shelton. Oh maybe football is those two would probably. I feel like Blake's got to be a football fan. 01:11:57 Speaker 4: So the voice was coming out at the same time that Best Friends Forever. Oh wow, it was my first television show was launching, and I had to go to like one of those NBC Universal like upfront like kick season kickoff parties, and Jessica and I had been in our writer's room all day and she got insane food poisoning and I had to send her to the urgent care. When they ended up giving her like fluids and stuff. It was like that bad. But that meant I had to go by myself to this dinner and we were not used to doing well. I wasn't used to doing press period, much less press by myself about our show. I got hair and makeup ready at our writer's room office while Jessica was like on the floor of the bathroom. It was just like one of those insane days, you know, It's like where you feel like, oh, my dreams are coming true, but also this is so hard. And I get in the car and I I go to whatever house or mansion or whatever the place is. And I walk in and now I feel beautiful. 01:13:09 Speaker 1: I had on like. 01:13:10 Speaker 4: A cute dress, sexy, I had my hair and makeup done. It's been a minute. I walk in and who do I see? Blake Shelton. 01:13:23 Speaker 1: And he gave me an up and down once over. Now this is when he was. 01:13:31 Speaker 5: With Miranda, And literally I felt like, if I wanted to, he would have taken a bite out of me presently in whatever stall we could find empty and I could throw it all away for. 01:13:50 Speaker 1: One night with BS. Anyway, I kept moving. 01:13:57 Speaker 4: Obviously my life is not I don't I'm not currently married to Blake Shelton yet, not after this story, And and I sent Jessica photos of the Alaskan king crab legs and the giant like uh seahorse ice sculpture, you know, which is obviously what you want to get a photo of while you're of course in the throes of food poisoning. But you know now that Blake has finished his voice residency, because he's he just had his last season. 01:14:31 Speaker 3: He did. I didn't know that I always. 01:14:33 Speaker 1: Watched the only the auditions. I never get past the auditions. Yeah, and so I guess he's probably got some time on his hands. 01:14:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably doing it like us, going to a lot of dinners lunch to catch people. 01:14:47 Speaker 1: What he wears? 01:14:48 Speaker 4: You know? 01:14:50 Speaker 3: Does he wear to allerding too much on? Too little? 01:14:53 Speaker 1: Is he wearing a cowboy hat? Right? Probably? Not just wearing like a like a denim shirt. 01:14:58 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, kind of like a well tailor denim shirt. 01:15:01 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and a scruff. Now. 01:15:02 Speaker 4: He is also exactly the same age as me, and that is feels weird to me. 01:15:07 Speaker 3: Does he feel a lot older? 01:15:09 Speaker 1: She feels a lot older to me? 01:15:10 Speaker 3: Is that? 01:15:11 Speaker 1: I don't know. 01:15:12 Speaker 4: And he also keeps, especially on the voice because I am a fan. I'll say it once and I'll say it again. It feels like, uh, he references how old he is. Oh, he's like, you know, like Kelly Clarkson, who also is not that much younger than right, she's probably in her like gotta be right. 01:15:33 Speaker 1: She'll go, okay, old man, you know, and then then he's like, I'm an old daddy, you know, And it's. 01:15:40 Speaker 4: Like, oh, he's simply not He's not a Grandpa, Okay, Grandpa, and it was like it just it puts me in my head a little bit, of course. 01:15:49 Speaker 1: Anyway. 01:15:50 Speaker 4: Anyway, so I feel like they would I mean, this is a a Nepo bait, Nepo baby, like a baby though that sounds better. 01:16:02 Speaker 3: That sounds like like tamagotchi or something like a little toy that you would buy. 01:16:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I feel like they this NEPO baby and Blake, Well, they probably might just talk about football the whole time. 01:16:18 Speaker 3: You know, they're probably guys, guys. They probably then they can move on to another sport. 01:16:22 Speaker 4: They just talk about beer or but maybe maybe if the two of these guys sit down, it'll all get figured out, you know what I mean, everything, all. 01:16:31 Speaker 1: Of it, and then they'll let us know. 01:16:34 Speaker 4: And then they'll come out and be like, guys, we figured it out, and then we can just all live in peace. 01:16:40 Speaker 1: After that they both. 01:16:41 Speaker 3: Have dinner at Wood Ranch and solve the world's problems. 01:16:45 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:16:45 Speaker 3: Well, beautifully play really beautifully play so much? 01:16:48 Speaker 1: Did I win? 01:16:49 Speaker 3: You win? 01:16:50 Speaker 1: Thank you? It's important to me. I'm incredibly competitive. 01:16:54 Speaker 3: This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails. People write into I said no gifts Gmail dot com. Desperate for answers? Will you help me answer a question? 01:17:04 Speaker 1: I love it. 01:17:05 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into this. Let's see here. This is highbridger and sparkling guests. That's a nice way to introduce you. I'm facing a situation that could use your wisdom. Recently, my cousin started working at the same company as me. While we have a close relationship, I've noticed some behaviors of hers at the office that I find uncomfortable, i e. Discussing personal matters loudly on the phone and oversharing about our family to complicate matters. She's only been here for four months and is already giving extravagant gifts to coworkers for birthdays. It's nice, but it seems to be creating a bit of unease among our colleagues, who aren't sure how to receive a lavish presence from someone who's basically a stranger. How do I handle this before she makes us both office pariahs. And that's from Hondors or Andrews. That would probably be an hoers right, m Okay, so Andre's cousin. He probably helped the cousin get the job. Kind of a live in like. 01:18:04 Speaker 1: A like a town with only one right. But it's an office, right, so it's interesting. 01:18:13 Speaker 3: Maybe it was just by coincidence that she got a job there, but I don't. 01:18:18 Speaker 4: Honestly, it feels to me like this is not your problem, not your circus, not your monkey, says they say, right, but it is. 01:18:28 Speaker 3: But why because he's built obviously, he's probably built a reputation at the company as cool honders. Yes, and suddenly cousins marching in revealing family secrets. 01:18:40 Speaker 1: About him specifically or sharing about our family. Yeah, but like doesn't that just only reflect negatively on the cut on the weird cousin, Like the cousin's the one blabbing right the cut, Like maybe he just needs to act like he doesn't know her, you know what I mean, Like like they're not they're oh, yeah, we're cousins, but. 01:19:02 Speaker 4: Like you know, like cousins, like like we're not really cousins, Like yeah, cousin cousin or whatever. Like because someone once told me, let the bad ideas. 01:19:13 Speaker 1: Die on their own. 01:19:14 Speaker 4: Oh so I have a hard time with that because if I see a bad idea, you could tell it on my face, and I have a hard time faking it with you or letting you. You know, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. I'm going to tell you right now, this is a I don't like this idea, and this is all the reasons that are wrong with it. But a lot of times you could just back off and then let the person and the bad idea just crumble, because it inevitably this is going to end poorly, and likely the cousin is going to right yeah there pretty soon. 01:19:52 Speaker 3: I mean, especially forget a. 01:19:53 Speaker 4: Stern talking to, and the closer they are together, the worse it is for andres. 01:19:59 Speaker 1: You know, So. 01:20:02 Speaker 3: Don't be an accessory. 01:20:03 Speaker 1: No, don't try to intervene, don't yes and that behavior. Don't also then talk shit about the cousin with other employees. 01:20:12 Speaker 3: You don't think you should do that. That feels like a good strategy to me. 01:20:15 Speaker 1: Shit talk the cousin. But you're still related. You're gonna see them forever and be giving them fudge. 01:20:22 Speaker 3: Right yeah, But something has to be done, and it feels like if you turn the office on her. 01:20:26 Speaker 1: I'm saying the opposite. Nothing needs to. 01:20:29 Speaker 3: Be done, Just let her turn the office on it. 01:20:31 Speaker 4: I know this is incredibly uncomfortable for you onders. Just pay attention to the balls in your court, and if one comes over, just toss it right back, gentle return. 01:20:42 Speaker 3: That's a very mature way of handling this site. 01:20:45 Speaker 1: So what are you saying. You're saying, let's go go to that. 01:20:49 Speaker 3: What a bitch? Right? 01:20:51 Speaker 1: Can you believe she gave you that gift? What did she give you? Like a series of monthly pantyhose or something like extravag I get jewelries. 01:21:02 Speaker 3: We all hate her? Right, yes, yes, who brought this lady in? 01:21:07 Speaker 1: Oh my god? 01:21:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you get on a slack you're uh, your. 01:21:13 Speaker 1: Co work another technology that I'm. 01:21:15 Speaker 3: I was out of the office space after slack appeared, so it feels like a very foreign thing to me. But people like, I guess I'm a slack dropping chatting when I was at office jobs and I mentioned it's similar. But get on slack. Say whatever you want about the cousin. 01:21:34 Speaker 4: Make up a fake account, a fake account with a different email, get like Tony Noodle or something. 01:21:41 Speaker 1: Tony noodle and. 01:21:45 Speaker 4: Started Tony Noodle drums TikTok okay, and then you just get us done posting on slack. Like this bitch like crazy crazy Tony Noodle posts like anonymously just durs. 01:22:02 Speaker 3: Okay, while the drumming Don't cry Out? 01:22:07 Speaker 1: Is there any drums to that? Now? 01:22:10 Speaker 3: There should be a nasty drum solo? 01:22:12 Speaker 1: It just goes too hard. Can we get a bon Jovi cover of Don't cry Out Loud? That goes way too hard? 01:22:20 Speaker 3: I think that Uh yeah, I think that's a nice strategy that'll take care of things one way or the other. Yeah, it'll be something for everyone to talk about. 01:22:29 Speaker 1: Either one of these options honders Uh, you know once maybe more fun and would fill the time right. One. 01:22:36 Speaker 4: You have to get TMJ clenching your job in order to experience and sit. 01:22:42 Speaker 3: Through and co write an Olivia Rodrigo song. Yeah, she reaches out to you. I need someone who's actually experienced. I'm doing my Maxwell's Silver Hammer that part people will sing along to. The verses will be very dark about your teary and dark what's happening at night? 01:22:58 Speaker 1: Lockjaw? 01:23:01 Speaker 3: Well, we answered Andrew's question perfectly. We pray he doesn't write back in. But you never know what these pingles cross. It's going to delete the emails so we don't have to ever think about it again. Wonderfully answered. These gifts are wonderful. A beautiful piano book. Yeah, so stylish. And this fudge is going to I'll probably eat myself sick. 01:23:22 Speaker 1: Don't don't do that. Spread it out. It's not going to go bad anytime, a long six months. I don't know. It doesn't have any like. 01:23:31 Speaker 4: Egg or butter in it, right, it's very like uh, very process. 01:23:35 Speaker 3: Like nuclear bunker foods. Yeah, probably like fifties. 01:23:40 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about yeah, margarine, it's vegetable two or three weeks to room temperature. Oh, but is that this kind of fudge fantasy fudge it's called is it fantasy fudgers at regular fudge like like Bavarian fudge shops where you like, yeah, mountain or whatever. 01:24:00 Speaker 3: I do, not that is. I'm now thinking that's a front. I've never seen somebody buy from there. They're only at out levels they are, you're right, and they're constantly full of apples. Those must be rotting. 01:24:13 Speaker 4: Dipped in chocolate or caramel. Yeah, they don't have amount good turnover there anyway. 01:24:19 Speaker 1: Why are you like going to buy like an off two to three weeks question? 01:24:27 Speaker 3: Okay, I've got three weeks to eat the fudge begin the well. This has been wonderful. Thank you so much for coming. 01:24:36 Speaker 1: For having me. It's been a treat and a treasure. 01:24:40 Speaker 3: Listener. The podcast is screeching to a halt. We came in with a bang, We're leaving with a bang. The rest of your day is going to be so dull without me. I wish you the absolute best, good luck, I love you, goodbye. I said no gifts isn't exactly write production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Coottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:25:27 Speaker 1: Well, I invit? Did you hear? 01:25:31 Speaker 2: Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty. And I said no, guests, your presences, presence, and and I'm already too much stuff, So how do you dare to survey me? 01:26:01 Speaker 3: It don't