1 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Unsigned and Independent, Season two, 2 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Episode thirteen. 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: What's their name? 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Tutin Brothers. You know, that's what I thought it 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: looked like, mm hmm. But they don't want to cons 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: so the Tutan. 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 3: Brothers, Nah, the Tucan two Tan tout. 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 2: I just think there's a lot of Tuton jokes, like 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Mark joke. I bet they hear it all the time. 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's how we started off. 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's the deal. Where are they from? 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: They're from Georgia, Atham, Georgia, Big Bulldogs. 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're actual brothers. Are they like bros? Now? 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: They're actual blood brothers. 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: Did you guys talk about them keeping their name the 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: Tuton Brothers. 17 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the first thing we talked about, actually, is 18 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 3: the name and how many different variations they've gotten over 19 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: the years. 20 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: What do you like about him? 21 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: I like their dynamic as brothers. I have a brother myself, 22 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: so for me, it's like interesting to look at that 23 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: and how they form together and keep their relationship. And 24 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: they haven't gotten any fights, which is surprising to me. 25 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: It's cool that they both graduated from Georgia with a 26 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: finance degree and here they are. 27 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: It's unsigned and Independent with Kickoff Kevin. 28 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: You can follow them at Tuton Brothers Band to u 29 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: t e in Tootin' Brother's band where you can follow 30 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Kickoff Kevin at Kickoff Kevin. 31 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: Right, that's right, right, boom there you go. 32 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: All right here they are the Tutin' Brothers on Unsigned 33 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: and Independent Tutin' Brothers. 34 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: That right, alright. I'm sure you guys get a lot 35 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: of the name, Thetten, the Totton. Yeah, yeah, so the 36 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: Tutin Brothers. That's your last name. 37 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: Elementary school was relentless. 38 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: Oh I was gonna say, what were those kids like? 39 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: Savage? 40 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Dude? 41 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 4: But if you can handle that with the last name 42 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: toot and you can, you can handle anything, man. 43 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: That's true. You probably got to a point where you 44 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: almost flipped it on them, where you just kind of 45 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: made fun of yourselves or. 46 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: No oh yeah, absolutely got to. 47 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: You gotta roll with it, right, gotta own it. Yeah, 48 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: what's the what's the worst or pronunciation or someone sticks 49 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: in your head? Do you remember if somebody saying someone 50 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: We're like seriously, like that's what you think it is? 51 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not, I mean not that people never like 52 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: usually shy away from tutin' at first, because they're like 53 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: they're not confident. You know, I could say tutting. I 54 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: could say like tutten or something, and then if it 55 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: is isn't tooting, then you know, it doesn't sound bad. 56 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 4: But if they just come out of the gate, they 57 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: feel like if they say touting and it's wrong, then 58 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: it's gonna be you know, into the world or something. 59 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, that makes sense. So we got Sam, we 60 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: got Walker. How are we doing it? Hey, guys doing great? Man? 61 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 4: Happy man? Good? 62 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, happy you're here. We were talking about a little 63 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: bit off of this, but we had to reschedule a 64 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: couple of times. So I really appreciate you guys rolling 65 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: with it and everything. You know, this industry can be. 66 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: I'm sure you've been doing it for a little while. 67 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: And you said you walked over here right to the studio. 68 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, we ride at Sony, so it's literally I 69 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: mean that doesn't mean anything to people listen to this, 70 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: but it's like literally a five minute walk down music Row. 71 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: So it's easy, man. 72 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all. You do a lot of work on 73 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: music Row here writing wise. 74 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're there. Yeah, we're at Sony probably three 75 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: or four days a week, Yeah, exact. 76 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: Really, how long you guys have been with them, because 77 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 3: you have a publishing deal. 78 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 4: We have publishing with them. Yeah yeah, publishing deal with them, 79 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: which is like a songwriting deal. Yeah, we're there, yeah, 80 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: I mean we've been there for the what year and 81 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 4: a half year and a little bit, you know. 82 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh so still fairly new, pretty fresh man. Pretty 83 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: how's it going over there? 84 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: It's great. We love it, we really do. The team 85 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: is amazing. They're super supportive of us and believe in us, 86 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: which is is hard to come by in the music industry. Honestly, 87 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: Like for a long time there we were doing it 88 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 4: and we're like, man, we just haven't gotten anybody to 89 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: kind of jump on board with what we're doing yet. 90 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: And they totally did that, which has been such a 91 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 4: blessing for us. 92 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: And then what your guys is, do you have a 93 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: goal to be you know, get a record label deal 94 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: or is the publishing deal kind of the first step 95 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: now because some people probably hear this and be like, oh, 96 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: it's unsignable. I thought, but there's a difference, right. 97 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah it can't. I know, it kind of like 98 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: can be confusing from the outside looking in on the 99 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: music industry. But I think our goal probably is to 100 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: have a record deal at some point. We would have 101 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: loved that, but we don't have one right now, and 102 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: so we're just like, well, wow, I mean, we're just 103 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: gonna put out our own music. Man, We're not gonna 104 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: let that stop us, you know, but yeah, I mean 105 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: so yeah. Basically, we have a songwriting deal and Sony 106 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: like it facilitates our writing of songs and stuff like that, 107 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 4: and then the record deal is like, you know, that's 108 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: what people probably think of when they hear a deal, 109 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: and uh you know, that's like they're paying for your 110 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: recording and helping you kind of distribute to the world. 111 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: So hopefully we'll have that one day, but uh, right 112 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: now we don't. So we're just rocking on what we got. 113 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: I like it. Well, I think you're doing a great 114 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: job so far. 115 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: Thanks man. 116 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: And you too are from Georgia, correct, man, we're real brothers, 117 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: a couple of brothers from Georgia. 118 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, sir. 119 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: And the one of the main reasons I had to 120 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 3: get you guys on here was I have a brother myself, 121 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: and I was like, damn, that's got to be because 122 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: I've had I've had a married couple on here, I've 123 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: had siblings on here, but I think this is my 124 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: first set of brothers. Yea, yeah, and I know that 125 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: dynamic has got to be good and bad at times, right, 126 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: So I got to ask Sam, I'll go to you first. 127 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: How many fights do you think you've been in? 128 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: Countless? Dude? Countless? 129 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 130 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: When we started doing it in college, we actually went 131 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: to like a marriage counselor because I kid with people. 132 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: But it was literally up until recently when Walker actually 133 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: did get married. It was on just as if. I mean, 134 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 4: we were living in the same room, we were working together, 135 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: we had all the same friends here in Nashville because 136 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 4: we're always together. So like like twenty four to seven, dude, 137 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: we were together basically. 138 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: Did it never get physical? I do point. 139 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I mean we fought as like little kids. 140 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 4: I think we got out of our system as kids 141 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 4: like physical fights. 142 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: No. 143 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, we never We never hit each other anything, which 144 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 4: I think is good. Uh. But yeah, I mean we 145 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 4: I think we do largely pretty well. And we've worked 146 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: on it. I mean like we worked on it pretty 147 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 4: hard over the years. You know. It's like when we 148 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: were coming out of college, I think we looked at 149 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 4: each other and like, man, if we're this is going 150 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: pretty well, and if we're going to do this for 151 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 4: a living, then like we need to really figure out 152 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 4: like how to do this well so we're not like, 153 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: you know, running our relationship, messing up our family dynamic. 154 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 4: Because we always say that, like like being in a 155 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: granted band is great and playing music is great, but 156 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: it's it'll never be worth it, uh to lose like 157 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: your relationship with your brother, you know what I mean, 158 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: So that that definitely has always come first for us, 159 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 4: and I think it think it always will. 160 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: So do you think in a positive way because for 161 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: me and my siblings and my family, I feel like 162 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: I can tell them anything, whether it's good or bad, 163 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: because I know they're gonna be a family there there 164 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, right, right, So do 165 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: you feel like you guys can kind of have that 166 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: communication Walker where you could be like, oh, I could 167 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: tell them what's on my mind because I know we're 168 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: not gonna fight and have a big falloucause at the 169 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: end of the day, we're still brothers, We're still blood here. 170 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, man, I mean, it definitely is 171 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 4: like that and we're very honest with each other, which 172 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: I think is you know, probably a better thing than 173 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 4: not a better thing. But it still is like, you know, 174 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: if there's something that's bothering Sam or there's something that's 175 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 4: bothered me, like we're gonna say it and it's gonna 176 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: be exactly how we feel. And you know, I think 177 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: that communication is is vital in a lot of ways, 178 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: but it's also hard to hard to swallow sometimes. Yah. 179 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 4: But and it can be dangerous too, because I'll say 180 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: something and think, like after I've said it to Walker, 181 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 4: I'll think I would not say that to any other 182 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: human in the world, right, like I just said it, 183 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: Like I think because there is that element of he's 184 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 4: my brother, I know he's going to be there. It's 185 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: like I don't have to use much self control and 186 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: how I'm saying what I just said because I know 187 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: he's going to be there. And so it's definitely beneficial 188 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. But it's also like, man, 189 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: I got to check myself and make sure I'm still 190 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 4: being kind and like still building each other up so 191 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: we can continue to be brothers and work together and 192 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 4: all that. 193 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. And do you guys, either 194 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: of you ever go to your parents still and be like, hey, 195 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: he did this. 196 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: He did this, probably, dude, I don't know. I can't 197 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 4: think of an example right now, but I'm well, our 198 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: mom's always worried about us. Yeah, she's always like, hey, 199 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 4: how are you and Sam doing. I'm like, we're good, 200 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 4: still good. And you have another brother, yeah right, younger, older, 201 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: tea man, youngest. 202 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: Youngest, youngest. Okay, so who's the oldest. 203 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: You got to guess? Oh, it's okay, We'll make everybody guess. 204 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: I know. I do that with my brother too, and 205 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: I'm always like, m I'm just gonna go with Walker 206 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: because you asked. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, you're right. See, 207 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: my older brother always asks too, Oh, whole guess, and 208 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: then everyone always says, I don't know, So I think 209 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: that whole brother. I know the dynamic, got it? 210 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: Man? Okay, Well, literally everybody thinks or not everybody, but 211 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: I'd say eighty percent of people guess Sam is older. 212 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: Really is interesting to me. But yeah, I don't know 213 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: why that is, dude, couldn't couldn't be my immaturity. I 214 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: don't think definitely. 215 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: What's the age difference here between all three brothers. 216 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: Two and a half between us and then two between 217 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: me and Jack. 218 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: Okay, and then Jack. Is he in musical instrument or 219 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: talented at all or anything or no? 220 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: He plays music. He like let a lot of worship 221 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: in college. Uh, but that's how we all started, like 222 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 4: playing music, was basically in church. And then he's super talent. 223 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 4: He like does a lot of video stuff. So he 224 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: does a lot of video stuff for us and uh 225 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 4: for like he'll video weddings and crap like that. But 226 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: he also has like a corporate job in Atlanta. 227 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: Oh okay, So he's not in naturvial, No, he's not. 228 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 3: He's creative though, Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good. You guys 229 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: are Georgia boys. 230 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: Georgia boys. 231 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: You went to Uga. 232 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: Oh we love them? 233 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Uga, Georgia, Georgia, whatever you want to call it. 234 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: You guys had a good couple of years here with football. 235 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: It's been glorious glory years. Man. 236 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you guys go to a lot of games? 237 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: What years were you there? 238 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: I was there from fourteen to eighteen, and so that 239 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 4: was right when that our first national championship appearance and 240 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: forever was in kind of the seventeen eighteen season. That 241 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 4: was two so that was my senior year and I 242 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 4: was in that end zone where they were to throw 243 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 4: the ball to Davante Smith, and it was just heartbreaking, bro, 244 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 4: because at that point, I mean, you don't know if 245 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: you're ever going to get back. And it's like, man, 246 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: I just lost the chance to win a national championship 247 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: my senior year at Georgia, like just the glory years, man. 248 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: And you guys are dominating that game too for a 249 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: while in the big sack, and I was rooting for 250 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: you that game, and I was like, damn, they got 251 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: this game after that sack. 252 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought we had it, man, And then they called, 253 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 4: uh uh, what's this off sides? Tyler Simmons, Dude, he 254 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 4: was on sides. I'll take that to my grave. Bro, 255 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: You're not bitter about it at all, But he was 256 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: on side even a couple of championships later. You're not 257 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 4: bitter at all. No. I mean, yeah, we grew up 258 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: die hard dogs fans man our. I mean our all 259 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: our grandparents went to Georgia, our dad went to Georgia, 260 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 4: all our aunts and uncles, cousins. It runs pretty deep. 261 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: So we were waiting on that on these years a 262 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: long long time. We always knew we were a sleeping giant, 263 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: and it's we've I think both of us have been 264 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: to all three national championships we've played in the last 265 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: five years. 266 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: Really. 267 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't go to the one out in California, 268 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: but that's okay. My wife went to TCU, so we 269 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: so we went to we went to that one. 270 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: Oh man, I bet that was the fun. 271 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 4: All Right. 272 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 3: At what point did you stop talking crap to her? Well? 273 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: Okay here it was. 274 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: Gone early and I'm sorry, yeah. 275 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 4: Pretty pretty quickly. It was like, okay, we're we're doing 276 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: like damage control here. But but yeah, she so that 277 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: was right before we got married, and it was like 278 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: a month before I got married. That game happened and 279 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 4: she was on her batsurette. She's from California, and she 280 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 4: was in California on her boucharette when TCU beat Michigan 281 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 4: to go to the National Championship. And so we had 282 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: said like, nah, we don't want to get tickets, like 283 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: it'll just put us in a fight, if you know, 284 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 4: if it ends up happening. And I was watching the 285 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: tickets and they went down like two hundred bucks and 286 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 4: I was like, I just bought them, dude. 287 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 288 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: I sent her a screenshot and she was like, no, 289 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: you didn't. I was like, yeah I did. We're going 290 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: So it ended up good for me. But she was 291 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: a she was a great sport through all of it. 292 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: I will say that she's she's been a trooper. 293 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: That's rough. No, what about your guys' family Outside of 294 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: your brother growing up, your dad was big into music 295 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: and big influence for both of you. 296 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he uh, he loves music more than almost 297 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: anyone I know. I think he just loves it, man. 298 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: And he plays guitar a little bit, and he sing. 299 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 4: He can never remember lyrics, but if you put a 300 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: if you put a lyric sheet in front of him, 301 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: might get it right. So he just loves it, man. 302 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: So we grew up around it, you know. We grew 303 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 4: up around nineties and early thousands country and uh yeah, 304 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 4: we were just kind of indoctrinated into that. And so 305 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 4: he started playing or he played guitar, so we kind 306 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 4: of both started playing a little bit and just had 307 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: guitars around the house. And that's kind of one of 308 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: the big ways we got into music at all. 309 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: And did you just kind of pick up and learn 310 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: yourself or did you guys go to lessons or anything 311 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: like that too. 312 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: I took lessons like probably middle school, and then just 313 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: kind of taught myself from there. And I think Sam 314 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: Sam started as a drummer, but I started as a 315 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 4: drummer and I was self taught YouTube taught on guitar. Yeah, 316 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 4: put just learning sweet Home Alabama, like playing a d 317 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: shape and just rocking with it. 318 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: Dude, how young were you Sam? 319 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 4: I was in middle school when I started. 320 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay. And then when did you guys say, hey, 321 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 3: we should do this together? Was that in church like 322 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: you were saying growing up or did it come naturally 323 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: in college? 324 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? We started. We both played kind of in different 325 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 4: church things together and then and I was usually the 326 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: drummer in those situations. Yeah, yeah. I was usually like 327 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: playing guitar and singing in like the classic worship leader 328 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 4: if people are familiar for that, and then Sam would 329 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 4: play drums or something. And then in college we were 330 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 4: kind of doing the same thing, just like for different 331 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: campus organizations. And then we were at a show one 332 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 4: night and just not like a Christian thing, just like 333 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 4: a show, and we looked at each other and we 334 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: were like, dude, I think we could do that. Like 335 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: what those guys are doing on stage, Like, I think 336 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 4: that could be us. And so we were like, let's 337 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: just play some open mics and see what happens. And 338 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: it was ju are you familiar with Jude in the line? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 339 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: they came to Athens and they were literally just having 340 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 4: an incredible time on stage, and like it sounded good 341 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: because they're really good musicians, but it was more so 342 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: that they were just putting on a show. We looked 343 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 4: at each other like, I mean, we can have a 344 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 4: great time on stage, you know, yeah, we could do that. 345 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: So it's more so about like the performance and entertaining 346 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: people than it was the music at that time. Maybe 347 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: not now, but at that time. 348 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: Oh initially for sure, because we like, I don't think 349 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 4: I'd ever written a song to that point, and so 350 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 4: we literally started playing open mics, just covers I don't 351 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: I don't even know what, and uh, people like started 352 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 4: coming and we got asked to do like we come 353 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: play our you know, sorority fundraiser, Well, you come play 354 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 4: our fraternity party, and we were like yeah, sure, and 355 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 4: then it just turned into like this thing where we 356 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 4: were really like, we should probably like start writing our 357 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: own songs and figuring out how to get them recorded 358 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: and uh, and we should probably have a band name. 359 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: Like literally, it all just like we're like what should 360 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: we call ourselves? And somebody was like the Tudin Brothers 361 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: and we're like, all right, that's rock. 362 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: That's simple. 363 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: Like literally, somebody, I think a chick for a like 364 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: a sorority fundraiser text with us and was like, Hey, 365 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: what should I put y'alls name as on the poster? 366 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 4: And we were just like, I'm the Tudin Brothers, I 367 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: don't know and SUF and that's just what it was. 368 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: Man, that's awesome. Yeah, and then you guys started writing 369 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: songs out to that together. It's one of you. Let 370 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: me ask us first. I'll go to you samit. Are 371 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: you more of a writer? Are you guys kind of 372 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: the same? 373 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: We were definitely the same. I would say we'd have 374 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: different strengths in the writing room, but we're we both 375 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: write pretty much the same amount, and so we both 376 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: started writing honestly, probably so in college, yeah, because we 377 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: didn't know really the concept of co writing necessarily or 378 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: like we'd never been to Nashville didn't know about co 379 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: writing being in a writer's room, and so we would 380 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: kind of write songs by ourselves and then come to 381 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 4: each other and say, this is the song I wrote, 382 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: and usually one of us, you know, we'd shoot it 383 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: down or whatever. But ye could we could kind of 384 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: co write from there, you know, and like, well, let's 385 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: edit this part in this part. And so I guess 386 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: in some way it was kind of the first experience 387 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: of co writing. Yeah. 388 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: Now I'm just curious. I've talked about this a little 389 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: bit on this podcast. Writing a song is something I've 390 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 3: always been like, just I want to sit in one 391 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: of those writers rooms just I have no idea what 392 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: goes on with if it's a lot, or if it's 393 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: a whole lot of nothing just drinking or whatever you're 394 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: doing or writing, We'll get you in one that that 395 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: would be awesome. I've said that on this before. I'm like, 396 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: I need I just want to sit there and just 397 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: kind of see how it comes together. And then I 398 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: told Eddie from The Big Show one time, I would 399 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: like to just have like one I don't know line 400 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: in a song, just to say like I've had a 401 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: line on the song. I think that would be the 402 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: coolest thing and have somebody like performing and be like, yeah, 403 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: I had a little just that little influence on that. 404 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: We're doing kick off Kevin and a Tuton Brothers song. 405 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: I'm you, guys, tell me when and we'll make it happen. 406 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: And but I'm alost curious how that comes about. So, like, say, Walker, 407 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: you come in with a song. Yeah, do you have 408 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: a song finished before you bring it to sim or 409 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: are you kind of like, hey, I got this thing started, 410 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: now I need your help finishing it or making some 411 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: edits to it. 412 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude. People ask us this all the time. They're like, 413 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: how do you write a song? Somebody else? Bro like, 414 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: how does that happen? And I'm, uh, it's how I 415 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: I think, Okay, here's how I say. It just happens 416 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: differently every time. Like sometimes every songwriter in Nashville has 417 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: a list of titles in their phone that they're like, 418 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: somebody says, like, you know, somebody says, well, beer never 419 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: broke my heart. And then they, you know, they're like, 420 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: oh man, that sounds like a song, and so they 421 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: write it down their phone and the next day they 422 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: bring it into the room. They're like man, this guy 423 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 4: said beer never broke my heart last night, and so 424 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: we could write a song about that. And so that 425 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 4: definitely happens sometimes. And then a lot of times people 426 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: bring in like a melody idea or like a little phrase, 427 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: or sometimes people bring in like a guitar lick or 428 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: a track, and you just kind of find like, whatever 429 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: idea is kind of like this little spark in the 430 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: room that people gravitate to, and then you kind of 431 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 4: try to form a song around that. It's usually how 432 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 4: it works. I think. 433 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: Okay, it's a little different. Do you ever write something 434 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: down like one night and you're like, this is gonna 435 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: be awesome. Then you wake up the next day you're like, yeah, 436 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna. 437 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: Bring that absolutely all time. You ought to go through 438 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 4: my voice memos. It would be embarrassing because it's like 439 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: it's midnight recordings and medle be like you know, just 440 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 4: like mumble, like singing into my phone at midnight, like 441 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: trying to be quiet, and. 442 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: I always sing of that. Like for me, it'd be 443 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: like I think of a creative idea for the show 444 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: or podcast or someone let's say have them drinking or whatever. Oh, 445 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 3: this is gonna be great, and I write it down 446 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: and I look at the next day, I'm like, dude, delete, 447 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: delete all that stuff. So it's gonna be the same 448 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: for writing, right, Sometimes. 449 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one percent of the same. Man. Well, and 450 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 4: I think too, it's it's a little bit that way 451 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: in general, Like like I'll look back at songs we 452 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: wrote a year ago or two years ago and think, man, 453 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: what were we thinking back then? Which is cool to 454 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 4: like see the growth, you know, of how far we've come. 455 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: But it's even like that, like in a moment, it 456 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 4: can feel great, but then you kind of look back 457 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 4: on it and you're like, I don't know about that. 458 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird how that work. Your mind just kind 459 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: of has this trickle on you. Yeah, how long you 460 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 3: guys been in Nashville. 461 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 4: Four and about a half years, Man. 462 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: Always been the goal to come here since you started? 463 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 4: No, No, not at all, Bro in college. I mean 464 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: we didn't. I didn't. We didn't start playing music with 465 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 4: each other like for the band until I was like 466 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 4: a junior senior in college. And so I like, we 467 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: both have finance degrees. Uh, I worked for Yeah, I know, crazy, 468 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 4: What was I doing? Bro? 469 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 3: Both of you? 470 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 4: I wish I'd done something different. Yeah, I worked a 471 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: way too hard for that, but I I mean I 472 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: worked like a corporate job for a year out of 473 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 4: school in Atlanta before I move it up here. So 474 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 4: it was it was just one of the things that 475 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 4: kind of kept going. And then I graduated from college 476 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: and Sam was a year behind me, and we were like, well, 477 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: let's just see where it goes for next year. And 478 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: you know, a year went by he graduated and it 479 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: was kind of growing and we were like, well, this 480 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: is the only chance we're gonna have in our life 481 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: to pursue this, and we love doing it, so let's 482 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 4: go for it. So that's kind of how it happened. 483 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: Good for you, And what's it been like in those 484 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: four and a half plus years for you, sim. 485 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 4: It's been good. It's been great. We got here at 486 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: the beginning of tween nineteen and then so we had 487 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 4: about a year and a couple of months and then COVID. 488 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: So it's been interesting because we really like had a 489 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: good opportunity for a while of like learning how to 490 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: co write, writing with other people, zoom writing and everything 491 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 4: before there was any chance really of looks at a 492 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 4: publishing deal. Or anything like that because people weren't really 493 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 4: signing much or anything like that during COVID, So it 494 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: was cool to be able to like really hone in 495 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 4: the craft and work on socials and do all that 496 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 4: during that time. And then after you know, COVID, it 497 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 4: kind of opened back up and we started meeting with 498 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: publishers and stuff like that. But it's been really good, dude. 499 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 4: I think we I've gotten a lot better. Like I 500 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: think even when we would put out our music, like 501 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 4: you know, when we used to put it out, I 502 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 4: would think, man, this is this is good. It's fine, 503 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: but I don't like love it like I love so 504 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 4: and so artists, like in my own music. And now 505 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: it's becoming more like, dude, I love my music, which 506 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 4: is it's a really good feeling because it's like, man, 507 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 4: I can really be proud of this. And so I 508 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: think we're starting to get to that point of like 509 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: where we're really really, really proud of And we've always 510 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: been proud, like of the effort we put in and 511 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 4: the work we did and how everything turned out, but 512 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 4: now it more feels like this is this is good music. 513 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: Honing it in on the craft kind of thing, and 514 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: who are some of the people or person that has 515 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: helped you guys out. 516 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: Dude, I mean I think I mean our publisher Kenley 517 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 4: Flinnett Sony has been a massive help to us. He's 518 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: just helped us get connected with other great writers, which 519 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 4: is huge. You know. He's another voice that kind of 520 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: helps steer you know, the creative ship, if you will. 521 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 4: And then Ben Huddleston, Yeah, Ben Huddleston, he was He's 522 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: one of my college roommates and works for like a 523 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: what does he do, like a business management business management 524 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: from the time, so basically handles artists and managers money, 525 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 4: but he like managed us for a while and he 526 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 4: was He's been a huge help over the years, just 527 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 4: like helping us do the same thing, like connect with people, 528 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 4: steer that ship, being like, well I like this man. 529 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 4: They're also leaning more to that and just a ton 530 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 4: of stuff, honestly so, because it's tough when you got 531 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: two voices, you know, and if it's a fifty to 532 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 4: fifty split on something, then it's like, well, you're you're 533 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 4: kind of running into a brick wall. Because both of 534 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: us are stubborn, and I'm probably more stubborn, but yeah, 535 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: you like it's nice to have another voice or another 536 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: couple of voices that say, yeah, I hear what both 537 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 4: of y'all are saying, but I think this, and I 538 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 4: side with either Sam or Walker, and you're like, all right, 539 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 4: well let's just go if both of y'all think that, 540 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: let's go with that. That's been huge for us. 541 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you talked about earlier performing a couple of shows, 542 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: random shows, parties, weddings, this and that. You talk about 543 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: a show in Montana. I got to hear more about 544 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: the show in Montana about a bare knuckle fight that 545 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: you guys talked about a little bit before this that 546 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: I saw, and can you tell the story? Walker? Oh? 547 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, so there's a lot to this. You tell 548 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 4: me to shut up if I'm talking too long. But uh, 549 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 4: but we got asked. We got like an email from 550 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 4: a guy named Monty and Montana and Monty Klostoff and 551 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: he was like, hey, guys, I heard y'all's music, like 552 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 4: really like it would love to have y'all out here. 553 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: We're doing a bare knuckle boxing and nitro circus festival 554 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 4: in Butte, Montana. Were like, what the heck, dude? Well, 555 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 4: we were like instant, like we're in whatever we need 556 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: to do to get out there, so we uh. He 557 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: basically is a promoter and he put together the show 558 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: where a festival two days where the first night they 559 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 4: had bare knuckle boxing and like this uh like kind 560 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: of scream oh sort of band, and then the next 561 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 4: night they had a bunch of nitro circus jumps that 562 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 4: they like sit up in a parking lot like dirt 563 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 4: bike stu and flips and stuff, and then they had 564 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 4: us play after that, and so like the big finale 565 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 4: of the night was this dude flipping this like side 566 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: by side razor and uh. We were on stage like 567 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: literally about to start singing after he flipped the razor, 568 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 4: and it's like yeah, and then the band plays and 569 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: he like revs this razor and flips it and it 570 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 4: just lands straight on top. 571 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: Of the razor. 572 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 4: Dude, it didn't get all the way around, and everybody 573 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 4: was like oh, and they were like he's okay. And 574 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 4: then it like everybody turned to us and we're like, okay, 575 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: we're starting We're gonna start playing now. 576 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: I guess everyone goes crazy when you find out like, oh, 577 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: he's okay. 578 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 4: Everybody's like so well, it was this big inflatable I 579 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 4: don't know if you've ever seen these, but they land 580 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 4: their landing ramp is inflatable, so it's like if if 581 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: somebody crashes it, they're like hitting a soft like a 582 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: kind of big inflatable ramp rather than like a hard 583 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: wooden ramp or something. And so this razor lands on 584 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 4: the inflatable ramp upside down, like bounces up off of 585 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 4: it like a bouncy castle, and then hits the just 586 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 4: the pavement to the side, and everybody's like, oh, he's 587 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: definitely quiet, and it was like it was like car 588 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 4: wreck sound, you know where you hear that's. 589 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: Like yeah, and then you guys have to play a 590 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: show up. Yeah. 591 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: But it was sick because they're like he's all right, 592 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 4: you know, and everybody's like. 593 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: Something straight out of a movie. He's like, he's okay, 594 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: and everyone just goes crazy for you guys, like hot Rod. 595 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: It was nuts. This okay, last story about it. This 596 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: is a There was a guy that fought the first 597 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 4: night and he's the sheriff of but Montana. I don't 598 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: know if he still is or not. Great dude met him, 599 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 4: held his baby baby. He's a super cool guy. But anyway. 600 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 4: Uh so, my wife was selling merch for us out there. 601 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: I was dating her at the time, and uh she 602 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 4: was talking to him and he was telling her that 603 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 4: the promoter was trying to get him to fight, like 604 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 4: he was trying to get the sheriff to bare knuckle 605 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 4: box at this boxing match in Montana and he was like, 606 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do it, and the guy kept bugging him. 607 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 4: He was like, Okay, I'll do it if you get 608 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: the Tuton Brothers out here to play. 609 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: No. 610 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: So we didn't know that the whole time, but she 611 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 4: he told my wife that, and so that was pretty cool. 612 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: They just found us, Yeah, and he loved our music. 613 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 4: So he was like, I'll only fight if the really 614 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 4: and they were like, dude, I'm sorry. And then he 615 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 4: kept being like, bro, you got to see this picture 616 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 4: of this guy because he just beat the crap out 617 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: of the guy. Oh really, And so he kept showing 618 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 4: everybody pictures of the other guy. 619 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: Oh man, so you guys are the one to influence 620 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 3: the sheriff to get in a bare knuckle fight. 621 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 4: Yes, hey man, that's us. 622 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 3: Not many people can say that, by the way. 623 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: Dude, that's that's that is a hilarious story. 624 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: That's awesome. I I was there for that. 625 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 4: It was fun, man, it was fun. 626 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 627 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 4: What else? 628 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: As we kind of wrapped this up pretty soon here 629 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: outside of music, I need to hear. Also, you guys 630 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 3: are in the golf right, both of you? 631 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 632 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay? You was it? You Walker? The worked 633 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: out Augusta. 634 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: I did? 635 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 3: You did? What was that? 636 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: Like? It was awesome, dude. It was a definitely an 637 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: experience of a lifetime for sure. 638 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: How want are you there? How many? 639 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: I worked there for semester my senior year of college. Okay, 640 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: so it was the twenty sixteen Masters. I was there. 641 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 4: So I was there from like January or like December, 642 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: which is like you know, four months before the Masters 643 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 4: through April, which is when the Masters happened. 644 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: What were you doing there? 645 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: I was a business affairs intern so I didn't work 646 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: for like the tournament specifically, I worked for the golf club. 647 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: And basically that entails. It's like a they do a 648 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: lot of things, but it's everything from like TV deals 649 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 4: to like press credentialing and press relations to like sponsor relations, 650 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: so like you know, they have these sponsors and you're 651 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 4: like taking care of their little you know, their space 652 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: or like making sure they have what they need or 653 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: whatever it is, and then just st a bunch of 654 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: random stuff like I got the mail every day, you know, 655 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: just creating. 656 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 3: Whatever you're working out a gusta who gives a crowd, no, dude. 657 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: Like literally, I just I take a golf cart and 658 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 4: I just kind of like, all right, I'm going to 659 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: get the mail, and I just like drive down number 660 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: one And did you. 661 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 3: Ever play around? 662 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: I did? Yeah? 663 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: How many I played? 664 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 4: Once? Yeah? They have an employee play day kind of 665 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 4: thing where you know, they let their employees play, which 666 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: is really cool. And I got to take my dad, 667 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 4: so that was it was really special, man, It was 668 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: it was cool. I have uh you like you hear 669 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 4: about people going to the Masters and like seeing it 670 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 4: and like people like, oh, there's no place like it, dude, 671 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 4: And I don't know. I always felt like there was 672 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 4: probably like some curtain like where like oh you saw 673 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 4: the behind the scenes and you didn't like it. But it, dude, 674 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 4: it's just like great people and they do like everything 675 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 4: they do like really really well, and the attention to 676 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 4: detail is all just like they just really care a 677 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: lot about it, which I really I learned a lot 678 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 4: and uh made a lot of really cool relationships went 679 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 4: through that I have nothing but good things to say 680 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 4: about them. 681 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 3: How far is that from your hometown? 682 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 4: A couple hours from making probably yeah, two three hours okay? 683 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: And then other some other jobs for you saying that 684 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 3: you had before or jobs that you hated or liked 685 00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 3: for music. 686 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, right after college, I worked at a diner and 687 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 4: I was like, I can't do this. It was like 688 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 4: these people are incredible who like just what like I 689 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: had gained so much respect for service industry, uh, like 690 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 4: waiters and waitresses and stuff because it was a. 691 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 3: Grind, bro. Yeah what were you doing? You're serving? 692 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 4: I was just waiting tables. 693 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: Yeah oh yeah. 694 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 695 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: See that's why I think the old thing is everyone 696 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: should work in service industry for even if it was 697 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: a couple of months, because you have a whole new respect. 698 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: That's why if like your orders messed up or saying 699 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's all good. 700 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: Dude, I became a way better tipper. 701 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, always. 702 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: And yeah and then I uh and then I work 703 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 4: construction once we moved up here side hustle. 704 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: Okay, now your bowl just full time music right and performing. 705 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: Where are you performing at in Nashville anywhere? Like place 706 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: writers around stuff? 707 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: Dude? 708 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, just all the writers rounds. I mean I think 709 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: we probably played all of it at this point. I 710 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 4: played the Basement. We played our own like ticket to 711 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: show at the Basement, the og Basement back in the summer. Yeah, 712 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 4: so I think we sold that out. Yeah close? Yeah? 713 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: What else you got going on? This year's coming year 714 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, dude? 715 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: Our goal is to well, we're just trying to put 716 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 4: a lot on the music, man. We're Our goal for 717 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 4: the last year year and a half has been to 718 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 4: put out a song a month. So so we're going 719 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 4: to try to keep doing that. Man, Hopefully when people 720 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 4: are listening to this, uh, you know, we will we 721 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: will put out a song that month. So that's the 722 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 4: that's the goal, Man's just keep cranking out music. 723 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: Is that? 724 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 3: Because I'm curious nowadays, I feel like that you always 725 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: have to have the next thing, whether it's a song 726 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: or a post or content whatever, especially in the creative 727 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: world that we're in. Is that do you feel like 728 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 3: you have to keep up because of that or it's 729 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: just like a personal goal between you guys where we're like, hey, 730 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 3: this is what we kind of want to do. Uh. 731 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 4: I think both. I mean, it's really cool to be 732 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: able to put out our songs and just kind of 733 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 4: do it when we want. But also it's like, man, 734 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 4: if we want to make a splash, like we we 735 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: feel like consistency is a huge thing right now, and 736 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: so just whether that's with socials or and we just 737 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 4: feel like the more shots you put out there, especially 738 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: they got to be quality. But the more shots you 739 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 4: put out there, you know, the better chance have a score. 740 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 4: So that's kind of our mentality on it. And also 741 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 4: we just have songs we right that we're like, man, 742 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: we think this is good, we want to put it out. 743 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 4: So that's a big part of it. 744 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: Do you ever write a song at Sony with Sony 745 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: where you're like, we want to keep this but maybe 746 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: they're like, no, we want this for somebody else. Do 747 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: you ever have to have that battle or not really yet? 748 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 4: Not really? Did they want us to They signed us 749 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: to be like a band, you know, to be an artist, 750 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 4: and so if we write a song that we think 751 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 4: is really great they want us to put it out. 752 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 4: That's awesome so far, so hopefully so far. Yeah, hopefully 753 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 4: that's that's awesome. 754 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: Well, thanks a lot of guys for coming in. This 755 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 3: is a lot of fun. I need to come out. 756 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: I need first, I need to get in one of 757 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: these writers' rooms. You can come, that would be awesome. 758 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm right, we're right down the street here. 759 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, just walk them down bro. 760 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: Okay, perfect, and then I want to come see a show. 761 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: Check them out social media Instagram, Tooting Brothers band, stream 762 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: their music. Support them, you guys. It has been a 763 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: lot of fun. Thank you so much. 764 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Thankvan. I love this episode of the Bobby Cast. 765 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: Subscribe on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.